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the spackler
17-08-2007, 06:55 AM
I was just curious if anyone out there might be familliar with the guy who did alot of this research. It involved the amount of time it takes the subconscious to send signals to the brain and then the body and how while "in the zone" atheletes kind of transcend that gap of time giving them all the time they need to react and perform at their peak capability... While skateboarding I sometimes find myself in that zone. It's as if time slows down and you have all the time in the world to prepare for the next trick. You can see the line, you can see the movement - you've basically done the trick and landed it in your head before your body catches up, doing exactly what the brain just programed it to do... You're thinking about the next trick while doing the previous trick... The guy that developed this theory had alot of really cool ideas. Unfortunately I can't remember his name. I've tried searching for him on the web but I haven't been able to find anything...
Alot of strange things happen while involved with sport, or activities you get into. Baseball players (while up at bat) have claimed to see the ball spinning in slow motion, showing them the direction the threads are spinning and revealing the type of pitch and wear it will curve or break. If only we could find a way to be "in the zone" 24/7...

i_am
17-08-2007, 07:44 AM
I was just curious if anyone out there might be familliar with the guy who did alot of this research. It involved the amount of time it takes the subconscious to send signals to the brain and then the body and how while "in the zone" atheletes kind of transcend that gap of time giving them all the time they need to react and perform at their peak capability... While skateboarding I sometimes find myself in that zone. It's as if time slows down and you have all the time in the world to prepare for the next trick. You can see the line, you can see the movement - you've basically done the trick and landed it in your head before your body catches up, doing exactly what the brain just programed it to do... You're thinking about the next trick while doing the previous trick... The guy that developed this theory had alot of really cool ideas. Unfortunately I can't remember his name. I've tried searching for him on the web but I haven't been able to find anything...
Alot of strange things happen while involved with sport, or activities you get into. Baseball players (while up at bat) have claimed to see the ball spinning in slow motion, showing them the direction the threads are spinning and revealing the type of pitch and wear it will curve or break. If only we could find a way to be "in the zone" 24/7...

We all aparently have the ability to do extraordinary things. It is as if when you just turn off the chitterchatter mind you are transcending time and physical barriers which exist in the mind. I remember at the 1996 Atlanta olympics, Aussie swimmer, Kieran Perkins was unwell, just qualified for his pet 1500 metre, in lane 8 for the final. Everyone had written him off and he swam the race of his life, blitzing everyone. When asked how he lifted to such an extent, he stated that he was just 'in the zone'.

I have just watched Peaceful Warrior and that is kinda what that is about. We only have 'now'. Stop thinking, forget about outcomes and exist in the moment. When you can do that the moment is eternal and you do not have the rational mind questioning your ability. You just do it.

abram730
22-08-2007, 02:36 PM
Time is relative in the mind. One can train this ability. yet there are single celled organisms that re code the brain for it.

Like linking to a person.. A good fighter can link to a person and know the next attack.. the vague term is "timing". "In the zone" is a state of mind where you are linked to the word and you are all concentration.. It's an altered state of mind.

cyberdaemon
23-08-2007, 10:12 PM
lol you all like seemed to talk about "the zone" known from Stalker :P
Well i have had experience where 10 minutes were completely skiped.
I watched at clock and it made 10 minute jump into future in less than sec.

abram730
24-08-2007, 03:11 AM
lol you all like seemed to talk about "the zone" known from Stalker :P
Well i have had experience where 10 minutes were completely skiped.
I watched at clock and it made 10 minute jump into future in less than sec.

the "in the zone" of sports is speeding up the brain and being in an all on state. they bring their unconscious up to consciousness.

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"Time vanishing" you were in an altered state of mind and can't I can't tell you what state you were in without more of a description.

that's the different reality many autistics are in all the time. They experience and are aware in the different realities. It is very hard to explain.

freedomnonfighter
24-08-2007, 09:01 AM
You can pretty much get 'in the zone' doing anything- even driving.

Several times while working on my art, I've "slipped" into 'the zone' - not being aware of time at all, nor anything else really for that matter. Just the art. Not me and the art or me in relation to the art. JUST the art. Several times I've completed works without even knowing how it came into being or what I was thinking or intending whilst doing so.

I've experience the same while playing sports. Writing as well.

Even playing guitar. Now I'm not 'good' at guitar at all, I can't even play a full song - but there are times where I'll just get in that zone and will actually play a riff or something I didn't even know I had the ability or know-how to play. And once out of it, I can't really remember how I did it or re-create the experience at all... quite frustrating in that situation :o

For how I understand it, it's not necessarily losing yourself in something, or concentrating on it really hard. It's not a dualistic thing at all (what is...), it's more merging and becoming the entirety of what you are doing.

abram730
04-09-2007, 01:17 PM
You can pretty much get 'in the zone' doing anything- even driving.

Several times while working on my art, I've "slipped" into 'the zone' - not being aware of time at all, nor anything else really for that matter. Just the art. Not me and the art or me in relation to the art. JUST the art. Several times I've completed works without even knowing how it came into being or what I was thinking or intending whilst doing so.

I've experience the same while playing sports. Writing as well.

Even playing guitar. Now I'm not 'good' at guitar at all, I can't even play a full song - but there are times where I'll just get in that zone and will actually play a riff or something I didn't even know I had the ability or know-how to play. And once out of it, I can't really remember how I did it or re-create the experience at all... quite frustrating in that situation :o

For how I understand it, it's not necessarily losing yourself in something, or concentrating on it really hard. It's not a dualistic thing at all (what is...), it's more merging and becoming the entirety of what you are doing.

What you are describing is more often described as being in a different reality. That is the place where you can be aware of other human minds and powerful group minds. See you could play because you were not alone. I bet you can figure out from "the new Atlantis" what they are hinting at.

I have spent most of my life in that reality. I got away from it but the 2000 election and 911 brought me back and I was able to remember my childhood again.

sunyatta60
04-09-2007, 02:10 PM
[QUOTE=the spackler;100073]I was just curious if anyone out there might be familliar with the guy who did alot of this research.

Hi, I am a Sports Psychologist the name of the psychologist who is world-renowned for identifying the key conditions associated with the occurence of this phenomena (flow/Zone) and how sportspeople can engender the conditions that allow them into the zone is Mihaly Csikszentmihalyi.
He is the author of many fine books on the subject of Flow. Flow in Sports being one of his best books on the subject. Interestingly I have found that the work of Neuroscientist Benjamin Libet shows a strong correlation with Mihaly's work. Simply put, the subconscious mind experiences reality before is happens. This phenomena Libet dubbed Action Readiness Potential.

Imagination is more important than Knowledge.
Albert Einstein

steevo
04-09-2007, 05:50 PM
I found this page quoting Mihaly Csikszentmihalyi which explains what "flow" is. After I read it, it made me doing something to "get into the zone".

http://www.unrealities.com/essays/flow.htm

It's a very interesting, thanks for bringing the subject up :) I had never heard of Mihaly Csikszentmihalyi before but had often wondered about why we feel happy and "in the zone" at certain times when doing certain things.