Why does God wipe out evil??

[miracles]

Many people on here use the term "baby killer" as an accusation against God because of how he treated the enemies of Israel in the old testament. This link gives a brilliant explaination as to why God did this.

People use this as an excuse not to believe in the God of the Bible

On the other and, then again, many cry why doesnt God punish evil people today. And they use this as excuse not to believe in God.

So God can not win no matter what He does, the thing is God is good and does everything for the good of humanity.

http://www.christian-thinktank.com/qamorite.html

Thanks to snoops for providing this link. There are valid answers to every valid question. Keep asking the questions and you will find the answers.

In the meantime understand that there are answers, and that kicking and screaming and acting like a child only makes you look stupid, and bitter and twisted and full of hate. There are some around here who are inteligent human beings who actually care about the eternal destiny of all humanity, which is why we put up with your childishness as a parent tolerates their children. We dont want to win arguements, we want to win souls.

Oh and to be honest it's also a quite a bit of humour. :D

[omegasol]

lol christians

[godgoo]

God isn't actually a devine being though is it? God is the merger of postive and negative god is neutral, so if we take this as fact, then god merges positive and negative, but postive radiates out into the universe. As god is the center of the feedback system, that merges male and female. So what ever is radiated out into the universe passes by GOD firstly. This is why we blame god, but also everything returns to GOD ;) Good and Evil?

I'am not saying it's fact but this I can believe.

The bible is a cryptic tale of the male counterpart of the universe, the female part is left out. This is why we are surrounded by symbolism.

http://www.montfordpointmarines.com/images/SgtMaj%20MC%20Chevron.gif

http://img.alibaba.com/photo/105107409/3_Bar_Chevron_Gold_badge_on_Para_Maroon_No1.jpg

http://www.ianandwendy.com/OtherTrips/Egypt/Cairo/Pyramids/Giza_Pyramids_Cairo_268__6A_1293.jpg

http://www.ark-of-salvation.org/pyramid.gif

http://www.sacred-geometry.com/chi-ometry/Star%20Tetrahedron%206%20inch.jpg

God apparantly is the center of the above, which is hard to visualise because we only see radiation not contraction? This is what I belive to be true, there is alot of evidence to support it.

[godgoo]

Why does god whipe out evil, becuase when we return to the female universe at death (contraction), we pass GOD (heaven) Cancel out. Then Radiate back out into the universe?
sort of fluctiating osciallating existance, expansion and contraction.

The whole universe system is fluctuating and oscillating, on small and massive scales.

[disorder2k8]

good and evil are subjective to our own understanding, and there are differing levels of good and evil depending on where you are. I believe there is no universal level good/evil, just different agendas and motivations and ways of accomplishing them.

where to draw the line? take some examples

a race that uses brute force to procreate, their females are so strong and violent that the men have to rape them in order for the species to continue.. good or evil?

a civilised race faces threat from an uncivilised race, the new emerging race over eat their natural food reserves and everyone elses in the vacinity, causing massive shortages to the civilised race. would it be good or evil to control their population or eradicate them completely?

[godgoo]

good and evil are subjective to our own understanding, and there are differing levels of good and evil depending on where you are. I believe there is no universal level good/evil, just different agendas and motivations and ways of accomplishing them.

where to draw the line? take some examples

a race that uses brute force to procreate, their females are so strong and violent that the men have to rape them in order for the species to continue.. good or evil?

a civilised race faces threat from an uncivilised race, the new emerging race over eat their natural food reserves and everyone elses in the vacinity, causing massive shortages to the civilised race. would it be good or evil to control their population or eradicate them completely?It's the old scenario of being cruel to be kind. But what you have to consider is would you want to be so brutal in a feedback system? Why wouldn't this dawn on you, that you may become what you hate and despise? Such is Evo and the nature of our universe.

Wake-up you dont just so happen to be a human being, by intents it is impossible, anyone who says it isn't GOD is being shafted by a huge mortgage or they're just gay.

[disorder2k8]

brutal is again subjective. we would have to stop being brutal to truly become civilised.

take game(deer and such) reserve management. those animals are all hunted for sport, but their resources are precious and shared amongst friends and family, nothing is wasted. families get fed, they survive, and the game population is managed and survives also. is that brutal?

[fallensoul]

Polarity is good for those without higher understanding. Let them be.

Another mans terrorist is another mans freedom fighter. Evil and Good, always subjective.

[godgoo]

brutal is again subjective. we would have to stop being brutal to truly become civilised.

take game(deer and such) reserve management. those animals are all hunted for sport, but their resources are precious and shared amongst friends and family, nothing is wasted. families get fed, they survive, and the game population is managed and survives also. is that brutal?brutal rip your balls off, how subjective is that? I didn't feel a thing buddy. Yeah and you also shouldn't play with your food ;)

[godgoo]

I think these reppies might also be real, I dont think DI is off his face on this one? He's looking for a reason as to why we would be creating suffering and ridiculous ammounts of pain to animals and humans on the planet, knowing this is a feedback system. Meaning we all got to be a nice fat pig? Look forward to it peeps, it'll be a Nice fat juicy pig after this? Maybe we are being tempted into a spiritual torture by inter-dimensional beings?

[disorder2k8]

Another mans terrorist is another mans freedom fighter. Evil and Good, always subjective.

Yep there you go, americans were all called terrorists when they decided to secede from the british empire

Yeah and you also shouldn't play with your food

Actually I've never handled a real gun, its just an example, but I do often make mountains out of my mash potato

[godgoo]

Yep there you go, americans were all called terrorists when they decided to secede from the british empire



Actually I've never handled a real gun, its just an example, but I do often make mountains out of my mash potato
Potatoes I am OK with, but torturing your food prior is not good, this can cause cancer. Mc Donalds, KFC, burger King etc can all cancer because of how they treat the animals that we eventually ingest. This is the primary cause of cancer an ill system.

[fallensoul]

Potatoes I am OK with, but torturing your food prior is not good, this can cause cancer. Mc Donalds, KFC, burger King etc can all cancer because of how they treat the animals that we eventually ingest. This is the primary cause of cancer an ill system.

I agree, it must have somekind of effect on the animals whole chemical makeup if it is kept in torturous conditions for all of its life. Much like you cannot properly "ferment" wine if the conditions are not natural so to speak.

Then when you eat this meat loaded with negativity it must have somekind of effect.

[seanx]

Miracles wrote:
We dont want to win arguements, we want to win souls.


Ever ask yourself why you feel the need to get everybody thinking and believing everything you do?

Ever ask yourself what God who is already everybody and
everywhere would need you to do this??? ( As your Bible says he is ominpresence).

Could it be that it's only this 'God' that the Elite have created
through their Bible that needs you to do this?

To convert people to their 'God'.

And to keep you locked into this 'game' they have designed.

Don't you think that God, whose intelligence is INFINITE wouldn't
need a small group of Bible bashers to terrorize people into
obeying him?

[fallensoul]

Ever ask yourself why you feel the need to get everybody thinking and believing everything you do?

Ever ask yourself what God who is already everybody and
everywhere would need you to do this??? ( As your Bible says he is ominpresence).

Could it be that it's only this 'God' that the Elite have created
through their Bible that needs you to do this?

To convert people to their 'God'.

And to keep you locked into this 'game' they have designed.

Don't you think that God, whose intelligence is INFINITE wouldn't
need a small group of Bible bashers to terrorize people into
obeying him?

Couldn't have put it better myself. To add into above post. Why this omnipresent god of all needs to "convince" most to believe in him through fear. And making them repent something they had no knowledge before it was presented to them.

I know Christians would refute this by saying people are born in sin, well if that is how your dear god views humans then he must be bit twisted in the head. Or his creation is utter failure and his leadership is abomination over humanity.

Complete utter failure.

[tannah]

Many people on here use the term "baby killer" as an accusation against God because of how he treated the enemies of Israel in the old testament. This link gives a brilliant explaination as to why God did this.

People use this as an excuse not to believe in the God of the Bible

On the other and, then again, many cry why doesnt God punish evil people today. And they use this as excuse not to believe in God.

So God can not win no matter what He does, the thing is God is good and does everything for the good of humanity.

http://www.christian-thinktank.com/qamorite.html

Thanks to snoops for proving this link. There are valid answers to every valid question. Keep asking the questions and you will find the answers.

In the meantime understand that there are answers, and that kicking and screaming and acting like a child only makes you look stupid, and bitter and twisted and full of hate. There are some around here who are inteligent human beings who actually care about the eternal destiny of all humanity, which is why we put up with your childishness as a parent tolerates their children. We dont want to win arguements, we want to win souls.

Oh and to be honest it's also a quite a bit of humour. :D

Shame you can't read the replies of MC, Seanx and myself then, soul winner.


You're an arrogant person incapable of saving milk tops, let alone a real living being.

[snoopsnuffleopagus]

lol christians


lol pagans :D



Nice work miracles!! :cool:

[miracles]

lol pagans :D



Nice work miracles!! :cool:

That is such an awesome think tank man. :) For thinkers not stinkers. :D

[geolaureate8]

Many people on here use the term "baby killer" as an accusation against God because of how he treated the enemies of Israel in the old testament. This link gives a brilliant explaination as to why God did this.

People use this as an excuse not to believe in the God of the Bible

On the other and, then again, many cry why doesnt God punish evil people today. And they use this as excuse not to believe in God.

So God can not win no matter what He does, the thing is God is good and does everything for the good of humanity.


He is a baby killer and that's a fact. What could a baby possibly do to deserve this? What about the flood when trillions of innocent creatures were destroyed? You call that getting rid of evil? That is only making things worse. An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind. Not only that, many who are killed are actually innocent. Sometimes Yahweh likes to kill just for fun. Just like he maliciously destroyed 1,000,000 Ethiopians.

I can't stand the thought that people worship such a morally repugnant, disgraceful excuse of a god. He is worse than Hitler. What could possibly be more hypocritical than a Christian who frowns upon Nazi's?

Miracles, deep down you know that Christianity is metaphysically false and it's time to fess up.

"... a God who could make good children as easily as bad, yet preferred to make bad ones; who could have made every one of them happy, yet never made a single happy one; who made them prize their bitter life, yet stingily cut it short; who gave his angels eternal happiness unearned, yet required his other children to earn it; who gave his angels painless lives, yet cursed his other children with biting miseries and maladies of mind and body; who mouths justice and invented hell - mouths mercy and invented hell - mouths Golden Rules, and forgiveness multiplied by seventy times seven, and invented hell; who mouths morals to other people and has none himself; who frowns upon crimes, yet commits them all; who created man without invitation, then tries to shuffle the responsibility for man's acts upon man, instead of honorably placing it where it belongs, upon himself; and finally, with altogether divine obtuseness, invites this poor, abused slave to worship him!" - Mark Twain


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[miracles]

He is a baby killer and that's a fact. What could a baby possibly do to deserve this? What about the flood when trillions of innocent creatures were destroyed? You call that getting rid of evil? That is only making things worse. An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind. Not only that, many who are killed are actually innocent. Sometimes Yahweh likes to kill just for fun. Just like he maliciously destroyed 1,000,000 Ethiopians.

You know what. This makes me sick. I can't stand the thought that people worship such a morally repugnant, disgraceful excuse of a god. He is worse than Hitler. What could possibly be more hypocritical than a Christian who frowns upon Nazi's?

Miracles, deep down you know that Christianity is metaphysically false and it's time to fess up.

"... a God who could make good children as easily as bad, yet preferred to make bad ones; who could have made every one of them happy, yet never made a single happy one; who made them prize their bitter life, yet stingily cut it short; who gave his angels eternal happiness unearned, yet required his other children to earn it; who gave his angels painless lives, yet cursed his other children with biting miseries and maladies of mind and body; who mouths justice and invented hell - mouths mercy and invented hell - mouths Golden Rules, and forgiveness multiplied by seventy times seven, and invented hell; who mouths morals to other people and has none himself; who frowns upon crimes, yet commits them all; who created man without invitation, then tries to shuffle the responsibility for man's acts upon man, instead of honorably placing it where it belongs, upon himself; and finally, with altogether divine obtuseness, invites this poor, abused slave to worship him!" - Mark Twain


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I guess you didnt read the explaination: :D God is good the devil went bad, then the angels then humans then God wiped everything thing out and started again and they still went bad and are going bad. Humanity makes me sick, and it makes me hate this dump of a world. But I love God. Without God I wouldnt be here, but I agree with one thing you said, it appears we dont have a choice and I would have quite honestly preferred not to have been born at all than have to travel through this valley of decision with a bunch of God hating no hoper nut cases.

“I came in with Halley's Comet (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halley%27s_Comet) in 1835. It is coming again next year, and I expect to go out with it. It will be the greatest disappointment of my life if I don't go out with Halley's Comet. The Almighty has said, no doubt: 'Now here are these two unaccountable freaks; they came in together, they must go out together.'

Mark Twain.

”
His prediction was accurate—Twain died of a heart attack (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heart_attack) on April 21, 1910 in Redding, Connecticut (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redding,_Connecticut), one day after the comet's closest approach to Earth.

[fallensoul]

Blame the devil, SATAN DID IT! Now who created the devil?

[tannah]

I guess you didnt read the explaination: :D God is good the devil went bad, then the angels then humans then God wiped everything thing out and started again and they still went bad and are going bad. Humanity makes me sick, and it makes me hate this dump of a world. But I love God. Without God I wouldnt be here, but I agree with one thing you said, it appears we dont have a choice and I would have quite honestly preferred not to have been born at all than have to travel through this valley of decision with a bunch of God hating no hoper nut cases.


These are truly idiotic comments. How can anyone love God and at the same time think humanity makes him sick? He parrots the so called human condition, thinks he isn't a part of it because he loves God. In one sentence he has condemned mankind and himself.

This man hates God. Underneath his false faith is a God hating individual.
Heaven for this demented individual is a bunch of human hating demons throwing the masses into the pits of hell.

[seanx]

tannah wrote:


These are truly idiotic comments. How can anyone love God and at the same time think humanity makes him sick? He parrots the so called human condition, thinks he isn't a part of it because he loves God. In one sentence he has condemned mankind and himself.

This man hates God. Underneath his false faith is a God hating individual.
Heaven for this demented individual is a bunch of human hating demons throwing the masses into the pits of hell.

How very true.

This is a man who knows nothing about the true nature of God - only
this fake, hateful creator 'God' the Elite have sold him through their
manufactured religions.

His statement -

Humanity makes me sick, and it makes me hate this dump of a world. But I love God.

Yet I thought God created this world and humanity - yet here is this
so called 'Christain' HATING what his God has created.

If that doesn't show how mixed up these fundamentalist Matrix
Christains are - nothing will.

[armoured_amazon]

God isn't actually a devine being though is it?

Yes.

[synergy777]

why do people blame god.

people blame god, because they are passing the buck, people need to take responsibility for their own evil actions, their own sins eg power, avarice, envy, hate etc.

we were given free will, and we have the cheek to complain and blame god, its funny.

[thelucifer]

God wipes out evil ??

eh...what ??


Genesis 50:20
But as for you, ye thought evil against me; but God meant it unto good, to bring to pass, as it is this day, to save much people alive.


1 Samuel 16:14
But the Spirit of the LORD departed from Saul, and an evil spirit from the LORD troubled him.


1 Kings 21:21
Behold, I will bring evil upon thee, and will take away thy posterity, and will cut off from Ahab him that pisseth against the wall, and him that is shut up and left in Israel,


1 Kings 22:8
And the king of Israel said unto Jehoshaphat, There is yet one man, Micaiah the son of Imlah, by whom we may enquire of the LORD: but I hate him; for he doth not prophesy good concerning me, but evil. And Jehoshaphat said, Let not the king say so.


2 Kings 6:33
And while he yet talked with them, behold, the messenger came down unto him: and he said, Behold, this evil is of the LORD; what should I wait for the LORD any longer?


Psalm 78:49
He cast upon them the fierceness of his anger, wrath, and indignation, and trouble, by sending evil angels among them.


Job 2:10
But he said unto her, Thou speakest as one of the foolish women speaketh. What? shall we receive good at the hand of God, and shall we not receive evil? In all this did not Job sin with his lips.


Isaiah 13:11
And I will punish the world for their evil, and the wicked for their iniquity; and I will cause the arrogancy of the proud to cease, and will lay low the haughtiness of the terrible.


Isaiah 31:2
Yet he also is wise, and will bring evil, and will not call back his words: but will arise against the house of the evildoers, and against the help of them that work iniquity.


Isaiah 47:11
Therefore shall evil come upon thee; thou shalt not know from whence it riseth: and mischief shall fall upon thee; thou shalt not be able to put it off: and desolation shall come upon thee suddenly, which thou shalt not know.


Jeremiah 1:14
Then the LORD said unto me, Out of the north an evil shall break forth upon all the inhabitants of the land.


Lamentations 3:38
Out of the mouth of the most High proceedeth not evil and good?


Amos 3:6
Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? shall there be evil in a city, and the LORD hath not done it?







I think about the fact that god knew all this before creating man yet chose to do it this way, right ?
The story/sense is just absurd and insulting to truth.
I'm almost tempted to say it is insulting to GOD but the GOD I know is infinitely above and beyond this childishness.
What a sight to behold, just bleepin amazing.

[armoured_amazon]

I think about the fact that god knew all this before creating man yet chose to do it this way, right ?
The story/sense is just absurd and insulting to truth.
I'm almost tempted to say it is insulting to GOD but the GOD I know is infinitely above and beyond this childishness.
What a sight to behold, just bleepin amazing.

You're entitled to your 'knowledge'. But one so sure should not feel the need to put others' kingdom down, surely?

[thelucifer]

You're entitled to your 'knowledge'. But one so sure should not feel the need to put others' kingdom down, surely?


But AA it is not I per se but truth that puts it down, is it not ?


The OP is absurd, the God of the Bible does not wipe evil out.

[armoured_amazon]

But AA it is not I per se but truth that puts it down, is it not ?


The OP is absurd, the God of the Bible does not wipe evil out.

It's a debate that can go on forever. I know my Truth, because I've experienced it.

:)

[thelucifer]

It's a debate that can go on forever. I know my Truth, because I've experienced it.

:)

Perhaps better said, the God of the Bible only wipes out certain evil, after creating it.

What other conclusion is there from the quotes above ?
And there are many more quotes in that vein.

[thelucifer]

why do people blame god.

people blame god, because they are passing the buck, people need to take responsibility for their own evil actions, their own sins eg power, avarice, envy, hate etc.

we were given free will, and we have the cheek to complain and blame god, its funny.


There are 2 truths

1. As shown above, God can be blamed

2. People can be blamed


As you say, people try to pass the buck, a terrible sight to behold.

People are responsible for their evil thoughts and deeds, only the ignorant think to have gotten away with anything.

[godgoo]

Because GOD is unity, god unifies both Good and evil, as everything that is radiated into this universe passes by god firstly.

[bemore]

So many Gods...............................
So many religions out there.............
So many ways to "Live your life".......


But which one is right??? Are any of them right???

"EVIL" is only a word, it truely lies in the eye of the beholder.

If god created EVERYTHING then surely he would of created EVIL. There must be an agenda for it so why would he wipe it out???

(Thats if it even exists)

[thelucifer]

There must be an agenda for it

Quite right




so why would he wipe it out???



Spot on

[miracles]

God wipes out evil ??

eh...what ??


Genesis 50:20
But as for you, ye thought evil against me; but God meant it unto good, to bring to pass, as it is this day, to save much people alive.


1 Samuel 16:14
But the Spirit of the LORD departed from Saul, and an evil spirit from the LORD troubled him.


1 Kings 21:21
Behold, I will bring evil upon thee, and will take away thy posterity, and will cut off from Ahab him that pisseth against the wall, and him that is shut up and left in Israel,


1 Kings 22:8
And the king of Israel said unto Jehoshaphat, There is yet one man, Micaiah the son of Imlah, by whom we may enquire of the LORD: but I hate him; for he doth not prophesy good concerning me, but evil. And Jehoshaphat said, Let not the king say so.


2 Kings 6:33
And while he yet talked with them, behold, the messenger came down unto him: and he said, Behold, this evil is of the LORD; what should I wait for the LORD any longer?


Psalm 78:49
He cast upon them the fierceness of his anger, wrath, and indignation, and trouble, by sending evil angels among them.


Job 2:10
But he said unto her, Thou speakest as one of the foolish women speaketh. What? shall we receive good at the hand of God, and shall we not receive evil? In all this did not Job sin with his lips.


Isaiah 13:11
And I will punish the world for their evil, and the wicked for their iniquity; and I will cause the arrogancy of the proud to cease, and will lay low the haughtiness of the terrible.


Isaiah 31:2
Yet he also is wise, and will bring evil, and will not call back his words: but will arise against the house of the evildoers, and against the help of them that work iniquity.


Isaiah 47:11
Therefore shall evil come upon thee; thou shalt not know from whence it riseth: and mischief shall fall upon thee; thou shalt not be able to put it off: and desolation shall come upon thee suddenly, which thou shalt not know.


Jeremiah 1:14
Then the LORD said unto me, Out of the north an evil shall break forth upon all the inhabitants of the land.


Lamentations 3:38
Out of the mouth of the most High proceedeth not evil and good?


Amos 3:6
Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? shall there be evil in a city, and the LORD hath not done it?







I think about the fact that god knew all this before creating man yet chose to do it this way, right ?
The story/sense is just absurd and insulting to truth.
I'm almost tempted to say it is insulting to GOD but the GOD I know is infinitely above and beyond this childishness.
What a sight to behold, just bleepin amazing.

This is a reasonable point to bring out, it only shows that God uses evil against itself for good though. It does not show that God is evil, becuase God is good. All things work for good to those who love the lord, including evil. Satan uses evil for our bad, God makes good of evil situations.

But as for you, ye thought evil against me; but God meant it unto good, to bring to pass, as it is this day, to save much people alive.

[lordzoma]

Hear me Jaffa, you worship a false god.

[michael christopher]

Why does God kill babies? They aren't evil.

[felakuti]

The Bible ''God'' is NOT God.

The ''Allah'' OF MUSLIMS is NOT God.

Once you understand these 2 basic truths, you will have no problem. :cool:

[seanx]

felakuti wrote;

The Bible ''God'' is NOT God.

The ''Allah'' OF MUSLIMS is NOT God.

Once you understand these 2 basic truths, you will have no problem.


Exactly, my friend.

The arrogance of groups of people ( religions) who think they can
claim a monopoly on something that, at our present level of
awareness is beyond all our comprehension is mind- boggerling.

THERE are right now, over a TRILLION planets like earth in
perfect movement all over space.

And there are probably a trillion, trillion dimensions existing
in different frequencies right where you aRE reading this.

All vibrating in perfect harmony......

We are tiny, tiny, tiny pinpicks in this extraordinary intelligent reality,
yet we think we know the Mind of this divine intelligence....

And what does it want......it wants to destroy us all if we don't
believe and follow some dudes called Jesus and Mohamad......

And most of humanity believes that............thanks to the Elite
control of its religions and the media.

[thelucifer]

This is a reasonable point to bring out, it only shows that God uses evil against itself for good though. It does not show that God is evil, becuase God is good. All things work for good to those who love the lord, including evil. Satan uses evil for our bad, God makes good of evil situations.

But as for you, ye thought evil against me; but God meant it unto good, to bring to pass, as it is this day, to save much people alive.

God is good.

How does something that is good create evil,and use it ??

The ends justifies the means ?


The whole good creating bad/evil thing is a real bugaboo.



So really, since God creates evil and uses evil for good's sake, then evil is really good, right :confused:

Thats a real mind job.

[arty2000]

Many people on here use the term "baby killer" as an accusation against God because of how he treated the enemies of Israel in the old testament. This link gives a brilliant explaination as to why God did this.

People use this as an excuse not to believe in the God of the Bible

On the other and, then again, many cry why doesnt God punish evil people today. And they use this as excuse not to believe in God.

So God can not win no matter what He does, the thing is God is good and does everything for the good of humanity.

http://www.christian-thinktank.com/qamorite.html

Thanks to snoops for providing this link. There are valid answers to every valid question. Keep asking the questions and you will find the answers.

In the meantime understand that there are answers, and that kicking and screaming and acting like a child only makes you look stupid, and bitter and twisted and full of hate. There are some around here who are inteligent human beings who actually care about the eternal destiny of all humanity, which is why we put up with your childishness as a parent tolerates their children. We dont want to win arguements, we want to win souls.

Oh and to be honest it's also a quite a bit of humour. :D

gee thanks daddyo...can I have some money to go to the malt shop:D

[arty2000]

Miracles wrote:



Ever ask yourself why you feel the need to get everybody thinking and believing everything you do?

Ever ask yourself what God who is already everybody and
everywhere would need you to do this??? ( As your Bible says he is ominpresence).

Could it be that it's only this 'God' that the Elite have created
through their Bible that needs you to do this?

To convert people to their 'God'.

And to keep you locked into this 'game' they have designed.

Don't you think that God, whose intelligence is INFINITE wouldn't
need a small group of Bible bashers to terrorize people into
obeying him?

well said:)

[arty2000]

[QUOTE=fallensoul;1217128]Couldn't have put it better myself. To add into above post. Why this omnipresent god of all needs to "convince" most to believe in him through fear. And making them repent something they had no knowledge before it was presented to them.

I know Christians would refute this by saying people are born in sin, well if that is how your dear god views humans then he must be bit twisted in the head. Or his creation is utter failure and his leadership is abomination over humanity.

Complete utter failure.[/QUOTE

yep and also there is the whole ark thing...where he sends the flood to kill all the folks but sees what hes done and changes his mind...pass the jack daniels:D

[arty2000]

lol pagans :D



Nice work miracles!! :cool:

ummm christians are pagan worshippers;)

[miracles]

ummm christians are pagan worshippers;)

Well you have quoted me as sayig something I didnt say, why?

Christians are not pagans, dont be foolish.

[miracles]

[quote=fallensoul;1217128]Couldn't have put it better myself. To add into above post. Why this omnipresent god of all needs to "convince" most to believe in him through fear. And making them repent something they had no knowledge before it was presented to them.

I know Christians would refute this by saying people are born in sin, well if that is how your dear god views humans then he must be bit twisted in the head. Or his creation is utter failure and his leadership is abomination over humanity.

Complete utter failure.[/QUOTE

yep and also there is the whole ark thing...where he sends the flood to kill all the folks but sees what hes done and changes his mind...pass the jack daniels:D

Man completely failed, he has used his freewill in an abominable way, still whilst we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.

See how you have completley got it arse about face as per? :D

[miracles]

gee thanks daddyo...can I have some money to go to the malt shop:D

No! Go to your room you're a naugty little hallion. :D

[miracles]

God is good.

How does something that is good create evil,and use it ??

The ends justifies the means ?


The whole good creating bad/evil thing is a real bugaboo.



So really, since God creates evil and uses evil for good's sake, then evil is really good, right :confused:

Thats a real mind job.

God doesnt create evil, and thats final.

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Well you have quoted me as sayig something I didnt say, why?

Christians are not pagans, dont be foolish.

Im not quoting you...little touchy there fella;)

annnnnd yessss they are....sun worshippers,,by gosh by gosh...what about the money for the malt shop?

[arty2000]

No! Go to your room you're a naugty little hallion. :D

:D:D

[miracles]

Im not quoting you...little touchy there fella;)

annnnnd yessss they are....sun worshippers,,by gosh by gosh...what about the money for the malt shop?

Me touchy, no way. Stop projecting. :D We worship the bloke who made the sun silly billy.