birthers,right,at last?bc found.in kenya

[hadabusa]

www.youtube.com/watch?v=BkWd2INPhL4


it wouldnt matter,but itd be waaay2ironic:eek:

[hadabusa]

i might add, this guy is soooo a dead man walking .


comment section, if the comments are representative , riots are ensured.

i cant believe it.

i can,its america, but thisd be too obvious.

[hadabusa]

sry,bump

you want2see this:D

[phemohilia]

Hmm.... I wonder what happens next?

[lupa]

if that's true maybe this was all planed knowing that the people would eventually find out and kick off ..riots and marshal law all tied up in a pretty little bow.

[lupa]

i might add, this guy is soooo a dead man walking .


comment section, if the comments are representative , riots are ensured.

i cant believe it.

i can,its america, but thisd be too obvious.

for sure hadabusa if that's genuine that guy is toast

[hadabusa]

hm,could this be a thank you from israel for the settlement issue?

lol, comments are hillarious.

first selfproclaimed certificate experts scream fake.

so far,it looks legit.the detective is looking up formalitys,said he be back reporting soon.

pretty brave,considering a murder costs 5quid or so there.:D

[mynameis]

Another fake. Because all birth certificates in the 60s were done with photocopier technology in third world countries.

[hadabusa]

Another fake. Because all birth certificates in the 60s were done with photocopier technology in third world countries.
says who?

[mynameis]

says who?

The photocopier ink lines that run vertical on the page.

[mynameis]

I have a good one:

Indiana Jones and the Obama birth certificate.

Dammit someone already did it.

http://images.sodahead.com/images/polls/0/0/0/5/0/1/0/5/3/polls_IndianaJones_2747_833238_answer_13_xlarge.jp eg

[mikethepunk]

I have a good one:

Indiana Jones and the Obama birth certificate.

Dammit someone already did it.

http://images.sodahead.com/images/polls/0/0/0/5/0/1/0/5/3/polls_IndianaJones_2747_833238_answer_13_xlarge.jp eg

Hahahahaha--brilliant!

I think that this is a fake too, unfortunately. His real birth certificate will probably never be found and was probably destroyed a few years ago. Remember they have been setting this guy Obama up to be president for a LONG time.

[motleyhoo]

Seriously, what difference would it make. Do they have to get a foreigner to do their dirty work? I think not!

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[cookie_dude]

Seriously, what difference would it make. Do they have to get a foreigner to do their dirty work? I think not!

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one word "ARNOLD"

[decim]

The certificates might of been printed using a photocopier, it doesn't necessarily follow that the information subsequently recorded on them is not handwritten.
If it has a 'genuine verifiable' historical stamp embossed at the bottom as it looks like it has, it could well be genuine.

The photocopier ink lines that run vertical on the page.

[mynameis]

The certificates might of been printed using a photocopier, it doesn't necessarily follow that the information subsequently recorded on them is not handwritten.
If it has a 'genuine verifiable' historical stamp embossed at the bottom as it looks like it has, it could well be genuine.

If it is a photocopy it is not an original. Hence in the 60s there were no photocopiers. Hence, no embossing which is clearly on that paper.

[airkraft]

He also mentions that it has a email address in the official stamp....didnt have them in the 60`s

[decim]

Photostat machines were available.
Many companies & the like make duplicates of commonly used forms etc.
They then are used to log relevant information.

It is impossible to determine whether or not the document is embossed or not from that video.

If it is a photocopy it is not an original. Hence in the 60s there were no photocopiers. Hence, no embossing which is clearly on that paper.

[hadabusa]

He also mentions that it has a email address in the official stamp....didnt have them in the 60`s

uuhhh, its the 2009 stamp.


there goes you....


it doesnt matter really, but this has yet to be debunked

[decim]

He mentions the email in reference to the 2009 (blue stamp) which was put there by the government agency that issued the document he is holding.

He also mentions that it has a email address in the official stamp....didnt have them in the 60`s

[dolores1]

Maybe this is what they needed to get Hilary into office, 2 firsts A black man and a woman?

[yozhik]

If it is a photocopy it is not an original. Hence in the 60s there were no photocopiers. Hence, no embossing which is clearly on that paper.

Did you even listen to the video?
He showed the NEW STAMP at the top and announced it had been stamped as a certified COPY.

Do you comprehend that?

He states it IS a copy ... a CERTIFIED COPY of the original; he does NOT state it is the original.
From around 02:30 to 02:46 in the video, he highlights a 2009 stamp from the Chief Administrator, verifying it is a CERTIFIED COPY.

Now, I do not know if its legitimate, but let's at least debate what has been documented on the video!

[mynameis]

Explain ?

Kenya gained its independence from the United Kingdom in December of 1963, but was known as the Dominion of Kenya until December of 1964 -- 10 months after this copy was allegedly made -- when it became a republic and changed its name.

There are some other basic issues with the document, including the age it gives for Obama's father, who's listed as 26. But Barack Obama Sr. was born in 1936, making him 24 or 25 at the time of his son's birth and 27 or 28 at the time the copy is dated.


The Washington Independent's David Weigel makes another good point about the location of birth given, saying Mombasa just doesn't fit a basic Occam's Razor test and is instead part of the conspiracy theories about Obama's religion:

The image is part of the extremely ill-informed conspiracy theory that Obama was born in Mombasa -- conveniently, one of the more Muslim parts of the country.

This has always been a red flag for conspiracy theorists, so it deserves some explanation. Barack Obama Sr. was born and educated in Nyanza Province, in southwestern Kenya, on Lake Victoria. This is the area where Obama’s family lived and continues to live; Sarah Obama, the step-grandmother of the president, lives in Nyang’oma Kogelo, a small town in the province. But Mombasa is a city on the Indian Ocean, a thousand miles to the east. It didn’t even have an international airport until 1979. And the city wasn’t even part of Kenya when the future president was born. Mombasa was a part of Zanzibar until December 12, 1963, when it became part of the newly independent Kenya.

The new forgery? Why, it claims that the president was born in Coast General Hospital in Mombasa.


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Update: Two British professors who specialize in African history have e-mailed Salon to point out another apparent error in the purportedly Kenyan document. The certificate's header reads Coast Province -- but according to the professors, at the time the document is dated, what are now known as provinces were called regions.

Writes Dan Branch, an assistant professor of African history at the University of Warwick:

It seems highly implausible and certainly a hoax. I have not seen any documents from this period in early 1964 that uses the heading of Republic of Kenya -- unsurprisingly given Kenya was not a Republic until December 1964. Moreover, the label of 'Region' was being used in early 1964 instead of 'Province.' While some of the old colonial forms may have still been in circulation, which would have used 'Coast Province,' these would have been headed as 'Colony & Protectorate of Kenya.'

As for his qualifications to judge the document and the header on it, Branch e-mails, "I''ve been working in the Kenyan archives on late-colonial and post-colonial history for the past eight years."

Additional reporting by Gabriel Winant .

http://www.salon.com/politics/war_room/feature/2009/08/03/birthers_kenya/

Just another friggin forgery for loosahville.

[eternal_spirit]

Seriously, what difference would it make. Do they have to get a foreigner to do their dirty work? I think not!

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Don't you have to be born in the USA to be president of America?

If it's proven he was not born in America, then he'll have to stand down from presidency (I think) :confused:

[deem]

Its a fake, Obuma's real name is Barry Sonater or something like that.:)