Steroid abuse, addiciton

[eternal_spirit]

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With benefits of steroids (http://www.educationalcollege.edu.kg/steroids-found-on-most-sports-supplements/) reaching every home and steroids easily available on the web, the success and popularity of steroids has reached an all-time high these days. The success of steroids has allured some people, acting as critics, to raise a voice against them. This is because opposition of some popular product does bring name to them and who does not want instant and free publicity. What these people forget is the fact that steroids are not harmful unless they are abused.
From Npr.org:
Julian Savulescu, professor of practical ethics at the University of Oxford, says: “To say that we should reduce drugs in sport (http://univesitynetwork.edu.kg/relationship-between-steroids-and-sports/) or eliminate them because they increase performance, is simply like saying that we should eliminate alcohol from parties because it increases sociability. So our proposal is that we allow a modest approach. … Our proposal is enforceable, it frees up the limited resources to focus on drugs that may be affecting children, which we grant should not have access to drugs … As we’ve argued, performance enhancement is not against the spirit of sport, it’s been a part of sport through its whole history, and to be human is to be better, or at least to try to be better.”
Since steroids have been helping professional athletes and other sportsmen to deliver dramatic performance, people needing easy publicity are seen accusing them with talks about steroids. These baseless accusations about gaining an unfair advantage are absolutely rubbish. Steroids offer the way through which sportsmen can think beyond the normal and there cannot be anything wrong in thinking for the better.


Psychiatry Professor Harrison G. Pope of the Harvard Medical School (http://hms.harvard.edu/hms/home.asp) has recently exposed some findings of his research on steroid dependency. Professor Pope said that two psychiatric conditions like image and anti-social disorders can be directly linked to steroid abuse (http://www.steroid-abuse.org/).

In the study conducted, 134 weight lifters, who participated, were grouped into three – non-steroid users, steroid (http://www.steroids-blog.com/tag/steroids/) users with no dependency and the steroid users that developed dependence. In the interviews and exams they had, image and conduct disorders were apparent to most participants. These factors are the juvenile versions of anti-social and obsession to physical size and appearance.
According to Pope, steroid dependence is quite new in the drug abuse arena; however, he believes that researches have just started finding answers to numerous queries on the long-term effects of steroids.
From Harvard Crimson (http://www.thecrimson.com/article.aspx?ref=527892):
A new study has found that people with conduct disorder, body image disorder, or both are more prone to become dependent on anabolic steroids (http://www.ianabolicsteroids.com/), according to Harrison G. Pope ’69, a Harvard Medical School professor of psychiatry and lead author of the study.
“Steroids are a fairly new phenomenon in the drug abuse scene,” he said. “Science is only now beginning to answer many questions about the effects, especially the long-term effects.”
In line with the study headed by Prof. Harrison Pope, there are few misconceptions on the effects of steroids on the body, specifically, the risk of having prostate cancer among male users. He stated that using steroid doesn’t increase the risk of having this kind of cancer but rather increase the possibility of developing palpitation and heart conditions.
The Harvard professor suggested that there should be more studies to be conducted to fully unveil the serious effects of steroids. There are no conclusions yet from this study but he hopes create awareness on this issue of anabolic steroid dependency.
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Steroid withdrawal

[godgoo]

Good post :)

We are talking more than steroids here though this is human peptide medication gone crazy. I can't see any harm in steroids, and I believe that steroids should available on mas over the counter, for anyone who wants them. although I belive that human peptide medication should be controled. And should only be administered by a physician.

I have used steroids I have 4 cycles of testosterone and have taken orals for a while. I feel great. I am not violent angry, I think it is completely the opposite as the ideal here is not to cuase or reek havoc, but to get big and chill, that is the steroid philosophy. No doubt the youth always rocks the boat, and it would be unfair to tarn all steroid users with the same brush.

Although I agree that steroids are addictive. no doubt. You know why? becuase they work. anything that works is addictive. everything.

[lupa]

i don't see a problem with steroids in fact i use to sell them. they are just as popular on the street as the drug as coke. they are used by all sorts of people including salesmen to give them a competitive edge. too many though and they can screw you up but it's like most things in life isn't it. they actually make a guy feel good not enough testosterone is when you get a guy loosing it and becoming a mardy arse (that's grumpy by the way) a little spike here and there does no harm what so ever. in fact just look at body builders..many of them live quite long lives and they take massive amounts of steroids in huge cycles and stacks.

[mr sunny]

Steroids always come with pro's and con's.
Pro's are that they are useful in helping people with degenerative disorders or burns but the cons are that when excessively used they have a very bad side effect. I've seen many "amateur" bodybuilders use the juice with no idea what the actual substance is doing to the internal organs, besides getting them bigger.

I have a friend who is a pharmacist and she wears gloves to handle some of the steroid pills, yet many are taking these synthetic hormones as if it were candy.

As for bodybuilders living a long life, you need to see the quality of life being lived. The bodybuilders and wrestlers from the seventies and eighties used considerable normal amounts as to compared with todays standards, yet the heart disorders and other painful side effects are overlooked by these "fitness" magazines and expo's. It's a bad example for younger men who want the quick track to the magazine cover body, which incidently is rubbish as mostly its down to extreme diet and other substances.

Those who want insight watch the film "Bigger, Stronger, Faster".

Taking steroids is a personal choice but the user must be fully aware of the side effects that come.

[lupa]

oh for sure mr sunny you have to be careful and if stacking, you have to know what goes best with what ..i remember the ole nap 50's were toxic as hell and could put you in hospital with liver and kidney failure. it's about knowing what your doing and being responsible..the majority of young kids just want to get big and ripped asap and don't think..they ruin it for everyone else. if they actually eat the right food, power lifted on the basics for some time and spent most of their time out of the gym resting and eating instead of destroying their muscle by over use they would have huge results without the need for gear. but you can't tell the young un's ..they think they know it all. a lot of those big guys have dabbled with growth hormones ..and that stuff is crazy that really will bugger the heart up.

small cycles and small stacks are fine..but keep away from deca ..unless you want to let your girlfriend/wife down ...deca dick is such a turn off :p

[mr sunny]

Have you used steroids?

[lupa]

Have you used steroids?

yup

[mr sunny]

As an athlete or for other reasons?

How long and what did you experience in terms of usage?

[lupa]

As an athlete or for other reasons?

How long and what did you experience in terms of usage?


well my story is unique from others..i took steroids to beat gender dysphoria so i was on a mission to correct that as i thought i was lacking in test. could have competed and was ripped pretty much all year round but i had a monster to slay which made me an animal in the gym so i pushed harder than anyone else. i did gear for around 3 years, and various stacks and cycles but it didn't work out as you can see from my avatar lol

never had problems with liver or kidney pains, no real aggression apart from being in the gym and found that it just gave me that little bit more of grunt so to speak. coming off them though is when you feel the difference..the strength soon decreases .and can make you grumpy..but that was a very long time ago ..past life and best forgotten. i will say though that a friend that started at the same time is still on them but he's mixing it with recreational drugs and has lost the plot big time ..has major psychosis and really needs help tbh. he is murderer material, really he is..and that's what happens when you abuse substances ..it will mess you up. this is a good thread. if anyone is thinking about taking them ...do your research ..seriously and take your time as my ex friend is a testament to what can happen.

[mr sunny]

Think that many guys do get the pressure to be something akin to a genetic freak, i've heard it all, guys wanting to be uber ripped so you can hear the heart beat. I know that many guys like the look as if the skin has been peeled away with a scalpel.

But in the old country (Kashmir, India) weightlifting is popular and steroid usage is going through the ceiling.

My approach is more holistic:cool:

[bobbydiva]

Take a look at Bigger Stronger Faster by Chris Bell. Very good steroid documentary.

[lupa]

Think that many guys do get the pressure to be something akin to a genetic freak, i've heard it all, guys wanting to be uber ripped so you can hear the heart beat. I know that many guys like the look as if the skin has been peeled away with a scalpel.

But in the old country (Kashmir, India) weightlifting is popular and steroid usage is going through the ceiling.

My approach is more holistic:cool:

yes it's silly and most want to or think they can compete, and by doing tons of jabs and tabs they think they will be able to enter mr universe lol..its all about big muscle belly's and tight compact joints etc ..it's funny because i could have been quite good, had the genes for it but that's not why i started lol like i say i was trying to beat a monster. but good luck to you and being healthy is the best way, slowly but surely and you can get huge. i would train a body part every 10-14 days if i felt recovered enough. i'd be itching to get back in the gym but total rest on the body part and your strength and size increases steadily without stagnation and you will have much better results that way than the usual 4 days rest routines..it worked for me that way anyway. i was from the Dorian yates school of 2 rep ball busters though funny memories from that time but best left in the past.. good luck with your training hun...and don't forget to squat! ;)

[godgoo]

Mixing steroids with other drugs, such as cocaine, amphetamine, canabis etc will make you go crazy, no doubt. But all in moderation thats what I say. You don't actualyl need a lot of gear to get big anyway, it's all down to conditioning. But I wouldn't reccomend using cocaine and other such substances that are psychoactive, no way.

Testosterone is active in the brain before anyone asks, this is what causes masculinty of the male brain. And thats about it. No real pitt-falls it's all down to the individual.

[mr sunny]

Dorian Yates H.I.T Principles are deadly!

By the way not into the getting uber huge :cool:

You probably referring to a routine thats worked adjacent to anabolic steroids, natural steriod free methods are totally different from what you describe, taking into consideration, age, activity level, time and any existing injuries that an older athlete may have.

Its nice that you can share your grrrrrrrr animalistic training methods!

[lupa]

Dorian Yates H.I.T Principles are deadly!

By the way not into the getting uber huge :cool:

You probably referring to a routine thats worked adjacent to anabolic steroids, natural steriod free methods are totally different from what you describe, taking into consideration, age, activity level, time and any existing injuries that an older athlete may have.

Its nice that you can share your grrrrrrrr animalistic training methods!

tbh honest these days there are so many seriously good natural products on the market there's really no need to do gear unless you are competing.

H.I.T hurts but certainly a rush for sure lol you have no energy left after a few reps of hard training so there's no aggression left for a fight in the pub hehe.

bit of inspiration for you ;) good luck with your gains

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x6OGMjwKEgM

[mr sunny]

Dorian Yates is mass that is over exaggerated. There needs to be aesthetic appeal, everything in synergy with each individual muscle.

The products you get today are pro hormones still similar to the effects you get off steroids. The supplement industry is a multi billion dollar stealing industry, they concentrate on a miracle supplement in a bottle, or praise the latest fad celebrity diet.

But Mr. Sunny prefers Mr. Steeve Reeves, a greek god amongst men and the first ever Mr. Universe in the 1950's.

Mr Dorain Yates is so manly lifting weights ;)

[lupa]

Dorian Yates is mass that is over exaggerated. There needs to be aesthetic appeal, everything in synergy with each individual muscle.

The products you get today are pro hormones still similar to the effects you get of steroids. The supplement industry is a multi billion dollar stealing industry, they concentrate on a miracle supplement in a bottle, or praise the latest fad celebrity diet.

But Mr. Sunny prefers Mr. Steeve Reeves, a greek god amonst men and the first ever Mr. Universe in the 1950's.

Mr Dorain Yates is so manly lifting weights ;)

yes steve had nice symmetry the guys on stage these days are just freakish tbh there is a line that once crossed over looks uggh! but that's what it's all about isn't it ..nice and trim for me and that will do nicely :)

[mr sunny]

:cool:

[godgoo]

The products you get today are pro hormones still similar to the effects you get off steroidshaven't found anything quite like halodrol-50 by gaspari, out on the open market? since it's removal.

[hadabusa]

ha,nice thread.

steroids are safe if you dont overdose.
almost all sideeffects just happen faster then supposed to,ex hair loss will happen anyway, the wrong steroids just accelerate the process.

testicle athrophy and bitch tits are reversable.
if bitch tits get outta hand, small operation will fix it.

but, the diuretics and hgh, these are dangerous.
17alphaalkaloide tabs are also stupid to use.

test enanthate is all you need.

was nice, but im done lifting anything but myself outta bed.

oh,ive got cheap test enanthate:D

[lupa]

ha,nice thread.

steroids are safe if you dont overdose.
almost all sideeffects just happen faster then supposed to,ex hair loss will happen anyway, the wrong steroids just accelerate the process.

testicle athrophy and bitch tits are reversable.
if bitch tits get outta hand, small operation will fix it.

but, the diuretics and hgh, these are dangerous.
17alphaalkaloide tabs are also stupid to use.

test enanthate is all you need.

was nice, but im done lifting anything but myself outta bed.

oh,ive got cheap test enanthate:D

lol @bitch tits, why is that a problem;) :p one of my hormones target the c17? receptor (memory is fading on this subject) i have to have blood tests every 3 months just to make sure i've no d.v.t or that i'm about to drop dead at any moment because of the strength of the anti-androgens. can't remember the name of the gear to help combat fatty tisue around the nipple, it's not clenbutorol but sounds like it. it will come to me unless someone knows the name already?

what haven't you done hadabusa? lol

[des1000]

lol @bitch tits, why is that a problem;) :p one of my hormones target the c17? receptor (memory is fading on this subject) i have to have blood tests every 3 months just to make sure i've no d.v.t or that i'm about to drop dead at any moment because of the strength of the anti-androgens. can't remember the name of the gear to help combat fatty tisue around the nipple, it's not clenbutorol but sounds like it. it will come to me unless someone knows the name already?

what haven't you done hadabusa? lol

I think you mean Nolvadex(tamoxifen) ,Arimidex, or clomid? :)

[lupa]

I think you mean Nolvadex(tamoxifen) ,Arimidex, or clomid? :)

clomid! thats it lol

[hadabusa]

haha, bitchtitts are not something a bodybuilder trains for to show off later:)

they can be painfull, even if small sized.

i say if you cant flex it, you dont need it

:D

yes, theres proviron and nolvadex and clomid, but with the exception of proviron , they act anti androgen , something a bodybuilder doesnt want.

if one is bound to get gyno, he will.
all nolvadex in the world wont stop the bitchtitts.

clomid,hcg also lead2huge water retentions.

[lupa]

haha, bitchtitts are not something a bodybuilder trains for to show off later:)

they can be painfull, even if small sized.

i say if you cant flex it, you dont need it

:D

yes, theres proviron and nolvadex and clomid, but with the exception of proviron , they act anti androgen , something a bodybuilder doesnt want.

if one is bound to get gyno, he will.
all nolvadex in the world wont stop the bitchtitts.

clomid,hcg also lead2huge water retentions.

i think the level of amount of fatty tissue that can build up is dependant of the person and on what they are taking. if your prone to bitch tits lol be careful what you take. if you have signs of gynecomastia (official title) after the first course of steroids then best leave them alone. didn't they invent steroids via the nazi camps for their so called master race?

one thing i did notice on clomid when i woke in the early hours for a wee. i would have mad traces coming off everything especially my hand, gold and white traces that really fanned out to quite a distance..

[hadabusa]

yeah some get bitchtitts from looking at a syringue, some overdose like steroids were water n never have issues.
are you saying coleman shouldve quit?
he had a gynocomastia the size a tennisball:D

frend had the same issues with clomid.
i always stayed away from anti estrogens and did ok.

the worst sideeffects4me came from t3thyroxin, lol, my neck felt like i swallowed a rugby ball,sideways:D

oxandrlone is fokking trash, this almost burnt a hole tru my belly, thats how the sensation felt at least.

and ganabol made my testicles hurt like i got permanent kicks2the groin.lol.
steroids were supposed to raise red bloodcells afaik, blood anemia.
haha,the nazis wanted to improve their claimed supernatural mega race with meds.
hypocrites
:D:D

[lupa]

lol yes that's rather amusing, can just hear gobels now. ok lads look your flucking awesome! you are the master race after all but we just need to add a few jabs because err ok we flucked up your not that masterful :o

i got hold of some of that Russian dianobol when that hit the uk. you know the sort, 10 strips of 10 bound by an elastic band with a green strip of paper all typed in Russian, you know, the stuff you wouldn't touch with a barge pole lol was supposed to be the usual 5mg but a friend had it it tested, turned out to be 7.5mg per tab so he bought a million tabs cheap ;) i was gaining 7 pounds a week on that, a lot of it was water but the plates went up dramatically especially on squats. also tried those anapolin50's don't recommend it as they hit the c17 big time. and finisteride? think they were called that..cattle pellets which you had to cook up to make in to oil. i think it was finisteride that flipped my ex friends lid. and of course there's equipoise that was quite popular in its day.

can't believe i'm talking grunt on here with a bunch of grunters lol feel the burn! the only burn i feel these days is when i lite one up:cool:

[hadabusa]

finasteride,yes.

russian dbol actually were testosterone tabs, rather then dbol.
they got the name from the belief russian roids are stronger cuz theyre russian .lol.

anapolon is all water gains,once you cold turkey that, youll literally piss out your muscles:D

dbol water retention is ok,as it ?oils? joints, there4 prevents injuries while making you stronger.
db downsides are alpha17alkaloide issues and fast buildup of receptor tolerance.

the absolutelly best steroid mg per mg is halotestin(fluoxymesterone), its supposed2be very poisonous, id say its not.
benched 440 at 200lbs bodyweight fully shredded:cool:
not available anymore:mad:

btw, equipose,ganabol were plain testosterone enanthate,all.lol.
there was1roid here, supposed2be for dogs, now that1was awesome,hehe.

haha, when i asked my dealer how to take equipose, he said:one BOTTLE left,one right,press syringue

haha,the memories:)

[geewhizz]

ha,nice thread.

steroids are safe if you dont overdose.
almost all sideeffects just happen faster then supposed to,ex hair loss will happen anyway, the wrong steroids just accelerate the process.

testicle athrophy and bitch tits are reversable.
if bitch tits get outta hand, small operation will fix it.

but, the diuretics and hgh, these are dangerous.
17alphaalkaloide tabs are also stupid to use.

test enanthate is all you need.

was nice, but im done lifting anything but myself outta bed.

oh,ive got cheap test enanthate:D

Why would you want bitch tits and pay for them to be removed?

I'm 15st of muscle but Ive never taken roids, natural training is the best and the ladies like it more. I have hair too!!

[lupa]

anapolon is all water gains,once you cold turkey that, youll literally piss out your muscles:D yes they did do that. they are a waste of time. one guy from the gym did that many, oh he thought he looked awesome, he didn't, he looked like muffin man the bloat :p he ended up in hospital losing a kidney, no joke, did he learn? no he just kept on when he came out but stayed away from the naps.



the absolutelly best steroid mg per mg is halotestin(fluoxymesterone), its supposed2be very poisonous, id say its not.
benched 440 at 200lbs bodyweight fully shredded:cool:
not available anymore:mad: pics? :D:p



haha, when i asked my dealer how to take equipose, he said:one BOTTLE left,one right,press syringue

haha,the memories:)

yes its funny looking back at it all. spending cold winter nights in a garage under a squat rack huffing and puffing nearly passing out ..crackers! lol

[hadabusa]

Why would you want bitch tits and pay for them to be removed?

I'm 15st of muscle but Ive never taken roids, natural training is the best and the ladies like it more. I have hair too!!
15stone?so?i was 280llbs with a 6pack,so?
bitchtitts are unavoidable for some if they chose the roid tour.
dont fool yourself, roids=real muscle.

100percent natural bodybuilders look like shit.
the natural bodybuilders in mags are moderate juice heads.

you think natural just takes longer?u know nothing.

as for ladies, believe me,i dont need lessons there.

:cool:

[hadabusa]

yes they did do that. they are a waste of time. one guy from the gym did that many, oh he thought he looked awesome, he didn't, he looked like muffin man the bloat :p he ended up in hospital losing a kidney, no joke, did he learn? no he just kept on when he came out but stayed away from the naps.


pics? :D:p




yes its funny looking back at it all. spending cold winter nights in a garage under a squat rack huffing and puffing nearly passing out ..crackers! lol

anapolon is good during cutting down, it massivelly prevents loss of lean mass.
and on low carbs you wont suffer water retention.

ha, all noobs must go thru water retention times, having melonheads being the idiot whos beeing pointed at.
once shredded,it pays off as youre pointing fingers at the ladies you choose.

pics?ex has.ill pm you:p

haha,our dumbelldungeon was dangerous to train in,old inventary:)

[geewhizz]

15stone?so?i was 280llbs with a 6pack,so?
bitchtitts are unavoidable for some if they chose the roid tour.
dont fool yourself, roids=real muscle.

100percent natural bodybuilders look like shit.
the natural bodybuilders in mags are moderate juice heads.

you think natural just takes longer?u know nothing.

as for ladies, believe me,i dont need lessons there.

:cool:

Go get a new BRA, you Lady boy