Astral projection techniques, whats worked for you

[measle_weasel]

Ive been researching astral projection lately, and have been trying various techniques, but have not had any success yet, though Ive only been trying for a couple days.

I think I am getting close to an OBE using the rope technique, in which you visualize or not visualize yourself climbing up a rope. I usually visualize it, but try and spend more time with feeling the rope and the action of climbing.

What techniques do others use to try and induce an OBE?

[metacomet]

I've never popped out, only gotten to the sensations of movement, the auditory changes where it sounds like you're going underwater, stuff like that.

The technique I used was full body relaxation by flexing all muscles from head to toe - three passes. Silence of the mind for about 2-3 minutes. At that point the body is asleep and, being still conscious, I would imagine being on a swing swinging back and forth. The sensation became quite realistic but when vibrations begin to set in the swinging would stop and the experience would just die down again *shrug*.

I need to practice more.

I really envy people who have 'the gift' for OBE's. Some have them accidentally, which is a sign that practice and methodology will probably grant them instant access to the astral.

[separ]

One word: mugwort.

[measle_weasel]

One word: mugwort.

Interesting, I have some of that. Heard it helped with lucid dreaming, though I didnt get any results with it. Is it still good if its been sitting on a windowsill in the sun for a long time?

[charles d ward]

Learn how to meditate first. Spend time in nature. Don´t eat read meat, don´t drink too much alcohol, don´t smoke etc Turn all electricity off. NOT THE REFRIDGIRATOR THOUGH!!!! Learn how to meditate.

A technique I try a lot is when I´m lucid dreaming and manage to take control over the dream (to understand that it is indeed a dream). When that done I look for doors leading to the astral realms. It could be a window, a mirror, a pool of water etc. Then I fly through them and see were I end up. 4 days ago I OBE´d and watched myself lie sleeping in bed for the first time :D Then I flew through the wall and ended up in the garden out in front of the old house (swedish countryside). Everything was so beautiful. Fairys, gnomes and what looked like... trolls... (who really pissed me off... annoying little bastards who attacked me. I managed to scare them off but it´s best to ignore them later on though.)

The best way for me is sleep, wake up, sleep, wake up over and over again. then the lucid dreams is coming for me. And when you wake up later on, write the dreams down and your subconscious will "wake you up" in dreams later on. Try to follow the recomendations at the top and results will come... promise.

Have fun.

[separ]

Interesting, I have some of that. Heard it helped with lucid dreaming, though I didnt get any results with it. Is it still good if its been sitting on a windowsill in the sun for a long time?

Oh yes, as long as it's not been under direct sun it still has a lot of essential oils - once the water dries out it keeps for quite a long time.
I believe that mugwort and a lot of conscious effort (keeping in mind a strong intention before going to bed) has helped me to develop minor mental faculties such as some astral projection, lucid dreaming (still working on this one but I was overjoyed when I first managed it properly) and remote viewing (by far the easiest minor faculty). However, you have to have been using the mugwort, and practising intently, for a long time before you get anything more than very vivid dream recollection. Don't use it for more than 4 nights at a stretch otherwise you'll have sleep deprivation. It doesn't let you go into deepl sleep.

[mind1universe]

I find that deep sleeps, or stressful periods, can unlock it too. For it seems to be the pattern with me lately. I've had it mostly in REM mode, where im in waking state but then decide to go back, and when I channel in REM state, I immediately go into astral mode. I can get there and see everything unfolding as I go through tremendous amount of light. But its' so surreal that it overwhelms and i go back to my body.
So I will master my fear eventually.

Despite it happening to me like this, Ive found that if I eat more natural it helps me to lucid dream and remember my dreams. I'm trying to get the flouride out of my system and drink filtered water. Since I've done this my mind has been more fine tuned into 4D reality.:)

I'm giving up drink now. I don't smoke and I don't eat much red meat or sugary food. I stay well clear of processed food. I also have given up cereals and opt for organic porridge with honey only. I also cut out all white bread and I eat only brown or wheat free bread. I don't eat cows milk or cheese. The only dairy I touch is goats milk and lactose free milk. I'm currently starting to grow food at home where my family lives too. So this will all help as well.

[whiterain]

Oh yes, as long as it's not been under direct sun it still has a lot of essential oils - once the water dries out it keeps for quite a long time.
I believe that mugwort and a lot of conscious effort (keeping in mind a strong intention before going to bed) has helped me to develop minor mental faculties such as some astral projection, lucid dreaming (still working on this one but I was overjoyed when I first managed it properly) and remote viewing (by far the easiest minor faculty). However, you have to have been using the mugwort, and practising intently, for a long time before you get anything more than very vivid dream recollection. Don't use it for more than 4 nights at a stretch otherwise you'll have sleep deprivation. It doesn't let you go into deepl sleep.

hi separ. ive looked into mugwort as it grows everywhere and smells nice and earthy herblike. how are you preparing it? tea, smoking?

[lewi]

Try Quantum Jumping by projecting yourself into a parallel universe you can find alternate versions of you and share information and knowledge but be aware that your other self may not always appear human. Its a form of day dreaming however day dreaming can drag your mind back to when your a child or happy events for short periods of time to avoid this you must concentrate deeply on the particle wave formation or the quantum tunnel and push your mind closer to the parallel worlds. Spiritualists try to find guides i suggest before you attemp this buy a Ouija Board and invoke an Elemental once you have grown accustomed to each other it will help you on your travels.

(http://www.experiencefestival.com/)

[measle_weasel]

hi separ. ive looked into mugwort as it grows everywhere and smells nice and earthy herblike. how are you preparing it? tea, smoking?

I put mine in a tea strainer and let it sit in the boiling water. Tastes good, somewhat sweet.

[biblegirl]

I put mine in a tea strainer and let it sit in the boiling water. Tastes good, somewhat sweet.

is that helping with your AP?

[marpat]

I have had a few weird experiences but no full blown, conscious projection. I have had lucid dreams and dreams where I seem to be projecting, which could be an unconscious projection. This latter experience also give the impression of a breeze blowing over the body and a sensation of being without weight and often is accomanied by the sensation of going through walls, etc.

I find a lot of books on the subject make it sound easy but getting it to work is another matter

[measle_weasel]

is that helping with your AP?

Helps me visualize a bit... I havnt had any OBEs yet, havnt gotten any of the symptoms of being close to one yet, either. Still trying.

I might have had unconscious OBEs before... I actually believe most dreams are astral projections, but having a fully conscious OBE is something Im still working on, and havnt had yet.

Actually, thinking about it more, I have heard very loud mid-range bell sounds several times before (one a few days ago while trying to AP (the others were random), sounded like a gong), which may have been the starts of OBEs, but its always startled me awake.

[marpat]

One of the best books I have read on the subject is 'Projection of the Astral Body' by Herewood and Carrington. Its a bit retro but packed with all sorts of info

[measle_weasel]

I think I had an OBE last night, but maybe it was just a lucid dream. I remember falling asleep after waking up in the middle of the night, and then waking up almost instantly afterwards, in my body and then willingly flying out of it, with more ease than getting up and walking to the door in waking reality. It was different, because I was fully conscious of everything I was doing, and knew exactly what had happened, that I had left my body, and was out and about flying around.

Though it felt more like a lucid dream than an OBE. I could not fly above a certain speed for some reason, the landscape was nothing like it should have been relative to the landscape around me (I went through the wall of my house to outside), it was daylight, and the environment, from what I remember, seemed limited, such as there was a clip plane on the edges. And I actually remembered thinking "this doesnt seem like an OBE". And, I experienced none of the effects that supposedly precede an OBE, according to a book Im reading by William Buhlman, Adventures Beyond the Body (good book). One thing which I found amusing, was in the book, he says over and over, dont think about your physical body, because youll snap back into it... after reading that so many times, I couldnt help but think of my physical body! But I remember making the conscious decision to not return to my body, even though I was about to think about it... and when I did think about it, I did not return to it.

Fun stuff regardless, though.

If this was a lucid dream, its the most lucid Ive ever had, though I havnt had many that I can remember. But of those, the conditions of the environment were very similar.

PS- As I think about this, I remember actually experiencing the symptoms of an OBE before this happened, such as buzzing and vibrations in the body, but got startled and stopped it, thinking wtf is that all about, then I realized that I was possibly about to have an OBE, but didnt identify it as such. Maybe I did ended up having one after all.

[biblegirl]

very cool measle weasle, thanks for sharing :)

[measle_weasel]

np :)

[csr21]

Robert Bruce's works are an excellent buy for anyone wanting to learn or advance in astral projection. They are written in a very straightforward and efficient manner, and have methods that work well for people who have trouble visualising (like me).

www.astraldynamics.com

http://www.box.net/shared/08ig2yib0m

You can download his complete online works for free here, contains New Energy Ways, A Treatise On Astral Projection and a variety of articles and instructions on astral projection and psychic and energy work.

I highly recommend this, as it has proved amazing for me having projected several times using these methods.

[wasd]

http://www.astralvoyage.com/projection/index.html :)

I'm doing it right after my lucid dreams, once my astral body was sitting up in my bed and once i could just feel the vibrations and the underwater sound thing. I'm new to this.

[ryanhodgson]

Have a question.

After feeling all the vibrations etc before OBE, what are the exact thoughts you should be thinking while leaving the body? Am I supposed to actually feel or realize myself getting out of my body or will I just appear outside my body? Cause if I'm supposed to conciousnessly get up and leave my body that FREAKS ME OUT! Really, it's scary.

[wasd]

Have a question.

After feeling all the vibrations etc before OBE, what are the exact thoughts you should be thinking while leaving the body? Am I supposed to actually feel or realize myself getting out of my body or will I just appear outside my body? Cause if I'm supposed to conciousnessly get up and leave my body that FREAKS ME OUT! Really, it's scary.

Look at it with curiosity instead of fear and you will progress much better :)

I have only had the vibrations twice and left my body once. I simply rised up from my bed somehow and got grabbed to my body quickly.

I have heard the rope technique is good, you can read about it here: http://www.spiritual.com.au/articles/astral/astralp5_rbruce.htm
Its about imagining climbing up a rope with your astral arms that is hanging above your bed.

Also saying to yourself "I want X" works for some, like "I want to leave my body". And when you have left your body you can say "I want to visit a friend".

[motleyhoo]

Robert Bruce's works are an excellent buy for anyone wanting to learn or advance in astral projection. They are written in a very straightforward and efficient manner, and have methods that work well for people who have trouble visualising (like me).

www.astraldynamics.com

http://www.box.net/shared/08ig2yib0m

You can download his complete online works for free here, contains New Energy Ways, A Treatise On Astral Projection and a variety of articles and instructions on astral projection and psychic and energy work.

I highly recommend this, as it has proved amazing for me having projected several times using these methods.

I have one of Robert Bruce's books where he describes having an OBE in bed one night and his astral body walking into his living room. He was just standing there looking around when he noticed his Beagle walk thru the room. He didn't think much of it until he remembered that his dog was asleep at the foot of his bed. So, animals project also.

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[bsmurph83]

I've never popped out, only gotten to the sensations of movement, the auditory changes where it sounds like you're going underwater, stuff like that.

The technique I used was full body relaxation by flexing all muscles from head to toe - three passes. Silence of the mind for about 2-3 minutes. At that point the body is asleep and, being still conscious, I would imagine being on a swing swinging back and forth. The sensation became quite realistic but when vibrations begin to set in the swinging would stop and the experience would just die down again *shrug*.



robert bruce has written about this phenomenon extensively in Astral Dynamics, comet. i think you might find it very helpful...

EDIT: just realised i'm the third person to make a post about robert ruce in a row (unless there's more on previous pg which i haven't read)

[csr21]

I have one of Robert Bruce's books where he describes having an OBE in bed one night and his astral body walking into his living room. He was just standing there looking around when he noticed his Beagle walk thru the room. He didn't think much of it until he remembered that his dog was asleep at the foot of his bed. So, animals project also.

Reminds me of a similar thing I read also, where a guy who owned a small holding would be followed by his whole farm when projecting:eek: , think I read that in one of Bruce's writings also. Interesting stuff, makes you wonder what animals are actually capable of, on the non-physical side of things.

[floriferous]

I say go back to the beginning of OOBE research and visit the work of Bob Monroe. Try hemi-sync cds or better still try the Gateway Voyage (that is if you can afford it).

[shellygurrrl]

I am reading Robert Monroe's "Far Journeys" and it's fascinating. This is the second of his trilogy about OOBE. In this one, he has perfected it and has incorporated a team of individuals who do this and they monitor them. He says they went to the moon and the planets and all was barren and they saw no one until they started saying this before they "went under."

"I deeply desire the help and cooperation, the assistance, the understanding of those individuals whose wisdom, development, and experience are equal to or greater than my own. I ask their guidance and protection from any influence or any source that might provide me with less than my stated desires."

Within weeks, they started meeting and working with other beings. It's so crazy and exciting! Monroe says every time we sleep, we go OOB, but don't remember it. The way he talks about his/their experiences, I'm starting to think some of my dreams are actually me going OOB and interacting with people and situations that don't make sense, yet do on that level when it is happening. I rarely dream about anyone I know in the "real world."

He also says in the beginning, before people develop a "relationship" with beings, they appear as hooded figures with faces that are shadowed and can't be seen. I actually woke once with a hooded figure bent over me, in a state of "sleep paralysis," and panicked, thinking "no no no" until it ended and I could move again. I thought it was a malevolent being, but now I wonder.

[measle_weasel]

Two nights ago, I was meditating and doing my thing to try and get some astral projection going, and I finally got some of those vibrations people have been saying precede an OBE, after maybe 45 or 50 minutes of not moving. In my arms, around my elbows is where it happened, it was exciting, but unfortunately did not spread, and no projecting took place.

It was definitely a new experience, which I recognized immediately since I had read about it before, and I can sense Im getting closer everyday to a waking OBE.

[geewhizz]

Robert Bruce is the modern day Master of AP, no one gets close.

[marpat]

I am reading Robert Monroe's "Far Journeys" and it's fascinating. This is the second of his trilogy about OOBE. In this one, he has perfected it and has incorporated a team of individuals who do this and they monitor them. He says they went to the moon and the planets and all was barren and they saw no one until they started saying this before they "went under."

"I deeply desire the help and cooperation, the assistance, the understanding of those individuals whose wisdom, development, and experience are equal to or greater than my own. I ask their guidance and protection from any influence or any source that might provide me with less than my stated desires."

Within weeks, they started meeting and working with other beings. It's so crazy and exciting! Monroe says every time we sleep, we go OOB, but don't remember it. The way he talks about his/their experiences, I'm starting to think some of my dreams are actually me going OOB and interacting with people and situations that don't make sense, yet do on that level when it is happening. I rarely dream about anyone I know in the "real world."

He also says in the beginning, before people develop a "relationship" with beings, they appear as hooded figures with faces that are shadowed and can't be seen. I actually woke once with a hooded figure bent over me, in a state of "sleep paralysis," and panicked, thinking "no no no" until it ended and I could move again. I thought it was a malevolent being, but now I wonder.

I got that book to and it is one of the strangest books on the subject that i have read. The 'Projection of the Astral Body' by Hereward and Carrington is much better I think.

[jp13]

Have a question.

After feeling all the vibrations etc before OBE, what are the exact thoughts you should be thinking while leaving the body? Am I supposed to actually feel or realize myself getting out of my body or will I just appear outside my body? Cause if I'm supposed to conciousnessly get up and leave my body that FREAKS ME OUT! Really, it's scary.

I found when I was younger and more able to do this sort of stuff, the hardest bit was when the astral/etheric body was coming out, rolling like, when it came to my heart, it felt like the heart (physical) stopped, scary and took me back into body again, had to consciously control the fear to get my other body out.
I was a lot more innocent in those days, I would say to myself in the mornng, or afternoon with clear joy and intent "I'm going to come out my body tonight" and I usually would have some sort of astral or dreamlike experience.
One that freaked me out a bit was I came out, and was in the top corner of my room, and I could see a figure in dark robes making passes with his arms, up and down slowly, I got back in and put the light on.

[dhama_initiative]

for me, its sleep after sleep deprivation - having a big sleep after lack of sleep. Vivid dreams, vibrations, wierd conversations with God, pyramids.

[shellygurrrl]

I got that book to and it is one of the strangest books on the subject that i have read. The 'Projection of the Astral Body' by Hereward and Carrington is much better I think.

I feel a lot of resonance with it. Not long after I started reading it, I began remembering my dreams more. In one, I was trying to find my car. I was flying, searching for it. I was looking in a parking lot and there were other people there. I just read last night Monroe says that that dream of forgetting where your "car" was is OBE. The car is actually your body.

I've been realizing how many of my dreams seem like "classes." In another recently, a group of people were playing "baseball" inside a gym-like place with no shoes on. I think I was witnessing a class of some sort and just used an image I was familiar with.

[whiterain]

well i havent consciously projected yet but finally there has been some progress again after a long delay.

i got up early then went back to bed for a nap the other morning. i was just visualising as i was drifting off that i was in a park kicking a football around, then suddenly there i was doing it for real and i imediately caught on that i was dreaming. there was no clear process tho and i must have lightly gone to sleep before re awaking in the dream, so unfortunately i have yet to expereince the transission consciously. it was definately progress tho as all my previous lucid dreams have been at the end of a nights sleep, whereas this one was literally a dream forming out of what i was thinking at the time.

if id been a bit sharper i would have tried meditating in the dream. as it was i just summoned up a goalkeeper so i had someone to take shots at ;)

[biblegirl]

hey i just had an experience two days ago, here was the situation:

I took an afternoon nap, on an empty stomach, with some orgonite under my pillow. My body was buzzing for a good 2 hours, I tried to count how many times I actually popped out completely or partially, and I decided on 12 haha! Most of the times I couldn't get very far, like it seemed some of me was still stuck in my body while the other part was raised above...at a couple points I seemed to be floating just beneath a massive green ceiling, and staring up at it, but I'm not really sure what I was looking at. I also woke up with sleep paralysis so that kind of confirmed that I really was venturing out. I couldn't wake out of that, so I just drifted off into dreaming then woke up to the vibrations again. When I started lifting up or pushing up out of my body I seemed to hear my own thoughts really loudly, at least a dozen thoughts at one time were simultaneously in progress and they were loud (almost echoing) and seemed to be colliding with each other ???? Sorry I don't know very much about all this stuff, so these are my best descriptions. The afternoon nap is when I seem to see the most interdimensional stuff. Oh I should also mention that after this bizarre nap session, when I was actually up and around the house I was extremely disoriented, and I kind of had like delayed reaction, like I didn't feel fully connected to my body or something lol. For about a half hour I was just kind of zoning out trying to adjust to being awake, I also felt weightless. I tried to talk to someone and my speech just seemed to be slow and I couldn't say it as soon as I was thinking it.

[whiterain]

hi bible girl. i had a similar disorientation the other day when someone woke me from trying to find the border state between sleep/awake. it was worse than being woken up at 3 in the morning and took me ages to feel at all normal again.

ive never had the full on paralysis thing in bed, (fcking horrific ones with entheogens tho) but the other day i woke up with a bit of a buzz after vivid dreams, and felt like i may have a touch of paralysis, got excited and shook my leg which moved straight away and i lost all vibrations immediately

[biblegirl]

hi bible girl. i had a similar disorientation the other day when someone woke me from trying to find the border state between sleep/awake. it was worse than being woken up at 3 in the morning and took me ages to feel at all normal again.

ive never had the full on paralysis thing in bed, (fcking horrific ones with entheogens tho) but the other day i woke up with a bit of a buzz after vivid dreams, and felt like i may have a touch of paralysis, got excited and shook my leg which moved straight away and i lost all vibrations immediately

very interesting whiterain, what are entheogens??

[measle_weasel]

Oh I should also mention that after this bizarre nap session, when I was actually up and around the house I was extremely disoriented, and I kind of had like delayed reaction, like I didn't feel fully connected to my body or something lol. For about a half hour I was just kind of zoning out trying to adjust to being awake, I also felt weightless. I tried to talk to someone and my speech just seemed to be slow and I couldn't say it as soon as I was thinking it.

Ive experienced this after meditating to try and get some AP going as well. Though I believe I have read that after sucessfully projecting and returning, one should feel refreshed. Maybe thats incorrect though, Im not sure. Or maybe it differs from person to person.

[lewi]

Turn off the lights and lay down and close your eyes focus on your thoughts and listen to them then tell yourself that the words that your thoughts are speaking are not real and that nothing is real then silence the mind and silence the chatter focus on the silence and stillness of the mind watch the forms that come into focus then you will find oneness and its bliss and know that we are one.

For more information click on my signature.

[marpat]

I have had a number of lucid dreams and possible projections that manifest as dreams. Sometimes I have had dreams where I slip out of my body and often through a wall in a horizontal potition. The sensation is of being very light and it feels like there is a cool breeze passing over the body. This could be an unconscious projection but I dont like to say that it definitely is in case I am fooling myself.

[ricko]

I've never popped out, only gotten to the sensations of movement, the auditory changes where it sounds like you're going underwater, stuff like that.

The technique I used was full body relaxation by flexing all muscles from head to toe - three passes. Silence of the mind for about 2-3 minutes. At that point the body is asleep and, being still conscious, I would imagine being on a swing swinging back and forth. The sensation became quite realistic but when vibrations begin to set in the swinging would stop and the experience would just die down again *shrug*.

I need to practice more.

I really envy people who have 'the gift' for OBE's. Some have them accidentally, which is a sign that practice and methodology will probably grant them instant access to the astral.

This is the technique I used to use successfully. I am not having any luck these days.

Once you get the hang of it you'll be amazed how easy it seems, it's weird.

[mountain]

There are some methods in me personal blog in my signature below, have a look but here is one of my most effective ones featured in it...

While lying there, your body falls asleep. Basically, all you are really doing is keeping the mind awake, yourself as your body falls asleep. There is a tingly sensation when that happens that tempts you to move. DON’T! Let it flow through you, it feels good and you’ll only interupt your whole purpose if you do.

[whiterain]

very interesting whiterain, what are entheogens??

plants and substances to get you in touch with the spirit world.

mushrooms, salvia, acid etc

[biblegirl]

oh haha, thanks :)

[whiterain]

poncey word i know, but drugs has such a stigma attached to it through conditioning

[wasd]

Here is how I did it:

1. Learn Lucid Dreaming, i used http://www.ld4all.com/guide.html and the thread in part 2.
2. After about 10 LDs, i read about AP in this thread (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=65472) and the beginners guide on astralvoyage.com (http://www.astralvoyage.com/projection/index.html)
3. 4 days after i read it, i told myself to awaken from a LD and just walked out of my bed with my astral body, was outside for about 5sec and only remember one sight from it.

I've told myself to awake from LDs twice. First time i left my body as described in step 3 and the other time i could feel the vibrations and hear the sound but i didnt move at all, just enjoyed the feeling, should have tried to AP :/

[measle_weasel]

So, Ive been researching crystals and have been wanting to test their effects. Ive read that amethysts apparently are quite good at helping to induce an OBE. Does anyone have any information, preferably from first hand experience, about the link between astral projection and amethyst crystals?

[mountain]

Here you go, friend :)
These work easy for me, my very own teckniqs :)

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=82760

[measle_weasel]

How would I know if I was projecting, but not remembering it?

[mauviene]

Unfortunately this is still a highly unknown area of exploration in the public sector it seems.

I am no means wise in the subject but I cannot find many people who are..

I would suggest astral dynamics by Robert Bruce..which is the most 'scientific' book about the subject..though it still lacks the solidity of what I would call a truly good method...unfortunately..since he seems to have trouble with memory and projection..

From the material I have read written by experienced projectors..the first thing seems to be an awareness of your body....then a release of fear and clinging to this realm must also be present (should not be to hard for people who know whats going on in the world but from my experience it is..) after that theoretically (or from what I have read) you simple get into a meditative state..experience the waves preceding release..and pop out of your body..

My experiences have never been voluntary and are all short in duration..so I do not have a method myself. I can see the chord with a sort of vision though..that's as far as I am at the moment..I have been busy lately..but I will see what I can do...if i get the time..

[mauviene]

Here you go, friend :)
These work easy for me, my very own teckniqs :)

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=82760

Astral projection should not be mistaken as a form of lucid dreaming.

It is being studied and is starting to be shown as an actual plane of existence..for example..projectors are able to name things in the physical plane by exploring areas in their second body or whatever you want to call it. This is no magick..it really is just underground science...

I am going to give your method a shot tonight though...

[cognizant]

I can do it when I'm really tired, like after traveling. I also can do it while on an airplane. It's hardest for me to do it when I'm at home.

[1776]

Unfortunately this is still a highly unknown area of exploration in the public sector it seems.

I am no means wise in the subject but I cannot find many people who are..

I would suggest astral dynamics by Robert Bruce..which is the most 'scientific' book about the subject..though it still lacks the solidity of what I would call a truly good method...unfortunately..since he seems to have trouble with memory and projection..

From the material I have read written by experienced projectors..the first thing seems to be an awareness of your body....then a release of fear and clinging to this realm must also be present (should not be to hard for people who know whats going on in the world but from my experience it is..) after that theoretically (or from what I have read) you simple get into a meditative state..experience the waves preceding release..and pop out of your body..

My experiences have never been voluntary and are all short in duration..so I do not have a method myself. I can see the chord with a sort of vision though..that's as far as I am at the moment..I have been busy lately..but I will see what I can do...if i get the time..

I have similar experiences, especially how you described the "pop" and the meditation of waves before you project from oneself with your astral body. I have induced this on myself, however, unlike you have. I do have a method that may work for you.

Use the audio from this YouTube video. You must be very relaxed before doing this, because the video is only 10 min. in length which isn't very long to induce the AP. However, it is possible and will work for you if you relax and let the vibrations take you out via meditation. Good luck

(edit) Forgot the YouTube URL: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c21d-aJHyzc

[measle_weasel]

Recently I think Ive been making progress in regards to being able to experience a conscious OBE.

A couple nights ago, I woke up feeling those "vibrations" that are supposedly a precursor to and OBE. It was odd though, because Ive felt them once before, and the prior ones felt columbian blue with a touch of light purple. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Azure_(color)) Yes, I felt a color :) This time, the vibrations were of a much lower frequency, and I felt a dark red. The actual rate had to be no more than 30 or 40hz, where as last time, I estimate it was in the upper hundreds. Some orange was in there too. I did not realize it at the time, but I was about to AP. Unfortunately, it was a touch disconcerting and I awoke. The vibrations were very "heavy", but not in a weight or gravitational sense. My thoughts during the dark red vibrations were that the apocalypse had finally begun; "so its true, and this is it" I thought. Probably societal programming at work. I now much more suspect that I was entering into the astral at the red level, as Robert Bruce describes in his updated "Astral Dynamics", which he says there are 7 basic levels to the astral, color coded, red being lowest, purple, highest.

Earlier today, while trying to get back to sleep, I definitely drifted out of my body without trying. I was lying on my left side, focusing on the third eye chakra, and began to feel myself drifting backwards. It felt like a pull at the time, but it is much more likely in my opinion that it was a simple, natural drifting. My first thoughts: "Oh shit, Im about to fall out of bed and hit the floor... this is going to hurt". Inability to move accompanied this. This would have been a *perfect* exit, if I had realized what was going on. There was no wait, no vibrations, simply a pure, clean exit. Though I believe this exit was an exit into the Etheric plane, the plane between the astral and the physical, which RB refers to as the "real time zone". Maybe this is why the exit was so clean; I was in fact not really moving that far at all, as the Etheric is the proverbial "just a step away". The Astral, a touch more distant, so to speak.

Lately Ive been doing some minor meditations on the third eye chakra, seeing if I can get some noticable result out of focusing on it. The above two incidents have happened since Ive been meditating. I do this particularly as I am in bed, as I suspect that astral projections might be linked to the third eye in some way. My anecdotal evidence so far seems to possibly confirm that theory. I also seem better able to visualize since my minor meditations have begun.

An interesting side note, I find it quite easy and somewhat pleasurable to focus on the third eye chakra, while all the other chakras are a real chore to put my attention into.

[raven_patronus]

I've tried to do OBE's before, whenever I try my head will "spin"...it's like physical reality feels like it's spinning. Does that mean your close?

I've also been having dreams, where I dream I leave my body. Or I dream a belief that I'm outside my body And i am lucid in the dream state.

[muscltory]

Ive been researching astral projection lately, and have been trying various techniques, but have not had any success yet, though Ive only been trying for a couple days.

I think I am getting close to an OBE using the rope technique, in which you visualize or not visualize yourself climbing up a rope. I usually visualize it, but try and spend more time with feeling the rope and the action of climbing.

What techniques do others use to try and induce an OBE?

You might want to explain to your self what it is that you want to do, and then set your intent because it can really help make things go smoothly. If you state that you want to travel astrally, it is a good idea to plan for your return. "I always return to myself in a positive way" [affirmation] Bi-location or astral travel can be tricky at first because sometimes our minds think we cannot return to normal. Although we are Infinite, our main bodies are [smaller to larger] physical, astral, etheric, mental, and causal. We are like holograms, and instead of thinking that you are going to divide yourself into two halves, it is really that all of you stays and all of you goes, except for your physical body. And the funny thing is that you can be aware that you are in two places at the same time. Lay flat on your back, spine straight, arms relaxed and keep your palms of your hands up. Try breathing in- count to 8, then out- count to 8 for awhile until you forget to count.
Say "I am bi-locating now so that I can travel to... ...and when I choose I will return and awaken and it will be in my Divine Highest Good."
I hope this helps. I have been bi-locating for a long time. I am like a tour guide, I ask the souls of others if they want to join me. I guide many for visits to the Other Side [Heaven] and usually go to the Hall of Healing.
Have a Blessed trip, Tory

[ladygoogoo]

The ancient egyptians believed each human had 5 states of consciousness
that they should strive to be aware of at all times. One of them is
the body as computer, one as the body as mind, one as the body in
dream state, one in the body as double, and one in the body as
soul and connected to universal consciousness
(that's an oversimplification obviously).
So the astral travel part you are working on is very exciting.
I like the previous post. Very helpful. I may try that myself.

[muscltory]

I'm glad you found my post helpful. The only detail I forgot to put in was to close the eyes. [of course, I guess that would be a no-brainer. who meditates with their eyes open, lol] Some people like to sit in the lotus position, but when you go out, you can get a head snap. It is hard to keep your head still in that position. That is why I always recommend to lay flat, spine aliigned, and most importantly, palms up. Our hands are receivers and transmitters.

I love the Egyptians, too. Sometimes people have differents name for the 5 main bodies, whatever works for you, right? I built a copper pyramid and meditate in it. It really amplifies the energy. I have also done guided bi-location with small groups for beginners, and I always explain what is happening first. When we explain to our physical body and brain upfront, the responce from our Earthbound self is usually, "Oh, ok I didn't know we could do that! I have no need to panic because I know I am safe."

Also, I prefer bi-location to astral simply because it all boils down to where your consciousness is. If we separate our bodies by astral removal, the consciousness can take a bit to get back. In other words, if you separate yourself, you have to put yourselves back together. In bi, or tri-location, since all of you goes and all of you stays, your consciousness can instantly move to wherever each of you are. Also, if you bi-locate and let's say you go to the Temple of Father God, you can leave yourself there, and awaken into full consciousness here, and leave yourself there at the same time.
This manuver can be especially handy if you are ill, because you can go to the Hall of Healing, and leave yourself there, Angels and attendants can work on you all day, and meanwhile, you are here going to your work or whatever.

May all of your trips Be Blessed, Love Tory

[marpat]

The ancient egyptians believed each human had 5 states of consciousness
that they should strive to be aware of at all times. One of them is
the body as computer, one as the body as mind, one as the body in
dream state, one in the body as double, and one in the body as
soul and connected to universal consciousness
(that's an oversimplification obviously).
So the astral travel part you are working on is very exciting.
I like the previous post. Very helpful. I may try that myself.

There are 9 aspects in total

Khu Spirit
Khaibat Shadow
Ka Double
Ba Soul
Ab Heart
Ren Name
Sahu Spiritual body
Sekhem Power
Khat Physical body

[muscltory]

Ive been researching astral projection lately, and have been trying various techniques, but have not had any success yet, though Ive only been trying for a couple days.

I think I am getting close to an OBE using the rope technique, in which you visualize or not visualize yourself climbing up a rope. I usually visualize it, but try and spend more time with feeling the rope and the action of climbing.

What techniques do others use to try and induce an OBE?

Hi Everybody! I would like to offer a simple, easy to do, way for your soul to teach yourself to travel. There are many labels or terms you can use to your travels, do what suits you most comfortably.
Astral or Spiritual travel, Out of body experience, Bi-location, etc. All of these basically mean you are moving your consciousness around. This excersize is for walking around someplace.

Prepare yourself for meditation. [go to your place where you meditate] Light a candle or some insence. Say "I Bless my trip." Choose a place that is very familiar to you, someplace other than where you are. It can be anywhere, your parents/family member's house/apt., the beach, a park, whatever. You can go to a different place each time for practice. The more you practice the better you get. In fact, your soul already is fully experienced, it is really that you are teaching the human you to go. Ok let's go to the beach.

Lay flat on your back, spine aligned, nose straight up, arms out, palms up. Make you breathing in and out equal. Like count to 10 in, count to 10 out. Quickly you will go sub-conscious, and as you go say something like, "I choose to travel and leave my physical body here. When I decide, I easily return in my Divine Highest Good."

Breathe in and say, "I am at the beach now! Oh this sand feels so good on my feet, nice and warm. Not too hot today, I feel like walking to the water." You can feel the breeze on your face and body. You can hear the waves gently wash ashore. Take your time, the more you see and feel, the better. As you get to the shore, start walking in the wet sand, it is nice and cool. Oh, there are some of those white birds, they chase the water out, and then run away from it, funny birds. I'll sit down and watch the water. Take your time and drink it all in.
Ok, time to go home, 3, 2, 1.

The more details you experience, the faster you will become more comfortable in your travels. If you go to places you are very familiar with, you will be able to absorb more details. This will help you go to other places later. You can start with one place and then return. If you get bored with a place, go somewhere else. You can project yourself instantly, to any where, to any time you want. I am looking for a good flying video for next time.
May all your trips be safe and secure, muscltory.

[muscltory]

Sometimes when you see images of filght, it makes it easier to fly when you leave your physical body behind. Xfactor mix of a Shape UK song "Back to Basics"


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ay9IT_GJO-0&feature=PlayList&p=ABB984EA684132BB

[measle_weasel]

More progress it seems.

This morning I awoke after I had the strangest dream. I was in a tattoo parlor and it got held up, and I was shot. [details] and then I died, which resulted in me instantly waking up. I kind of get the strong feeling that thats how it works pretty much in any plane including this one.

Anyway, after that dream, I went to the bathroom and went back to bed. Ive gotten into the habit now of remaining aware of myself as I also try and fall asleep, which has proven to be beneficial in regards to memory of dreams, consciousness within dreams, and APing. As I began to fall asleep, I recognized the feeling of the transitional phase between me ("consciousness") occupying a physical body, and occupying an etheric one.

The actual feeling is hard to describe; its a unique one. Its kind of like getting lighter, but not *really*. Its like trying to describe what blue tastes like to someone without a reference for the taste of blue. You could say that blue kinda tastes like a blueberry, but not *really*.

With the above in mind, I began to feel lighter and more comfortable, with a calm satisfaction that I was aware of my making progress. I continued to get increasingly "lighter", then, a swift, brilliant flash of white light in my minds eye, and I knew I was then in my etheric body, but the door was still open between the bodies and I was still aware of seeing black with my normal eyes, so I had to be careful not to get to excited or make any sudden movements lest I slip and fall back into the physical. This is the consciousness split I guess thats supposed to happen between bodies. Its actually quite annoying, more than anything else. Im hoping that this split consciousness is only a transitional phenomena though, and I suspect that it is.

Continuing, I began to spin along the X and Y planes, I dont remember which direction, while slightly rising maybe 20 inches. I knew I was in the real-time zone, and wanted to explore this fascinating buffer plane between the physical and the astral, but did not want to try to move for fear of accidentally moving my physical body and waking up, so I just kind of stayed still and enjoyed the fact I was consciously making progress.

Oh, another thing I forgot to mention, those vibrations DID proceed the flash of light. Another thing, I remember thinking to myself while the whole process was beginning, "if only I could get some visual motion going here [with reference to actually seeing it in my eyes], I know I could get outta here [this body / plane]". I then thought to just pretend to be moving through a tunnel, or something, Im not quite sure, and that did the trick.

Back to the story, after I was mostly out of my physical body, but still kinda there apparently (though now that I think about, I believe I was mostly in the etheric and could have been totally, as its very difficult to distinguish between the two, at least for me at this particular stage), and not wanting to move, I found myself in a dream world, but it was lacking definition, and it was dark; low resolution I guess is what could describe it somewhat accurately, but not *really*. I suspect that I had drifted into a lucid dream, as I was refusing to move my etheric body. I guess it got comfortable and it fell asleep too :eek:

I was lucid for most of the duration of the dream, which was cool. I eventually determined that I was having a lucid dream within my own mind and was not traveling in any para-physical plane due to several factors. One, I could not increase the "resolution" of my surroundings with affirmations, such as "clarity now" (William Buhlman). Affirmations are supposed to be extremely reliable when in a subjective astral dimension, and rarely, if ever, fail. As the resolution did not increase, I knew I was not in a subjective astral plane, and I knew I was not in a relatively objective one either, because stuff was changing rapidly in seemingly random fashions, just as a typical dream does. What also gave it away, was that I was conscious of my etheric body at the time, and knew I wasnt moving it :rolleyes:, thus I could not have been traveling in the etheric.

What was strange I now think, was that by slightly shifting my awareness to my etheric body, and slowly trying to move etheric limbs, I actually got a touch more detail to come out of the environment, but only a bit. Im not sure what that means yet. Possibly I was beginning to drift out of consciousness and into the default dream state, and by increasing my conscious awareness, that somehow increased the detail of the dream. Further experiments will need to be done.

Ultimately, I think I was immobile long enough that I actually did move into the default consciousness associated with non-lucid dreams, as I dont remember really waking up, or more specifically, I dont remember moving back into my physical body, nor the specific end of that mostly lucid dream.

PS: In regards to paragraph four, I have now just remembered that the etheric plane, as it is mostly the reflection of the physical, can actually be quite dark. This is explained by Robert Bruce. Thusly, it is possible that there was no split of consciousness at all for me, and I was completely in my etheric body, and my etheric "eyes" were what was actually seeing black. That would make sense to me. If anyone has an opinion on this, Id like to hear it.

PPS: Ive still been doing the meditations focused on my third eye, and most progressive episodes Ive had, I recall focusing on my third eye before the episode takes place. At a minimum, focusing on the third eye seems to help you to remain conscious of the experience, and remember more of it than you normally would.

[muscltory]

At 5pm EST I went on my second trip of the day. I usually don't talk about where I go or what I do, but I kept gettting a nudge to tell the forum about this trip. I don't know why.
I went into the pyramid with the intent that I would do a healing on myself and some others, especially on the children, including the young girl Mr.Icke has told us about named Hollie. I am very grateful for all the hard work he has done to bring us information and for this site.
Many times I do unexpected things, like today, as soon as I was out I felt compelled to once again ask if anybody in this "group", [David Icke, friends, family, employees, attendees of his lectures, anyone involved with this site,readers of his books, etc.] wanted to make a visit to the other side. I was in a hurry so I asked God to send out the message for quick connection.
Alot of people went, not as many as before. As soon as we got to Heaven, I reminded everyone of places they could visit, and they could return whenever they wanted to. I also asked why measel weasel dreamt about death, it was symbolic. The death of the time his conciousness was limited to his egoic mind. And then I was off to Scotland.
I told God I wanted to go to each and every home of every person that had sex with a child or abused a child in any way. I learned how to make stars a few months ago from "Psychic Healing" by Sylvia Browne. I intended to plant a star of White Light in every room where abuse had occurred, to illuminate and shine light on evidence, and also to bring a connection to any children still there. I had no idea how many homes were involved, there were alot of them, I was going so fast it became a blur. Then I flew into one place, made of old stone blocks, into a room of pitch black and suddenly time stopped.
I was in a room with a lizard. He was about 6 feet tall, green, no trace of human at all. This was the first time I was face to face with a reptilian. I scared the shit out of him. I planted a star, and he just stood there, shocked. I could tell this was the last thing he ever expected. I said, Uuh, Hi, and flew out.
I went to that guy, MacAskill, who is protecting the pedophiles, and invoked the Violet Flame of Transmutation in his home [it turns negative to positive] and illuminated all the evidence he had. That guy is a real bastard, yuck!
And then I thought, why am I doing this alone?? I am just some guy who does remote healing and light work...so I went back to heaven and asked Jesus and Mary for help. I asked them to place the Christ Conciousness in all the children and to do something about this mess. [I love them so much, they never say no and they are always available for Healing.] I left it all up to them and went home. Back in my body, I did some healing on myself, I placed light around every person and in their hearts, and placed a star made of the sparkling Emerald Green Healing Energy in my friend's spine.
It's funny how life turns out, isn't it? 20 years ago I worked in nightclubs and didn't know what a lightworker was, I never would have guessed I would be dong this.