Worlds oceans supposedly hottest in 130 years NASA

[goanna]

Worlds oceans supposedly hottest in 130 years
NASA disagrees
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20 Aug 09 – “July was the hottest the world's oceans have been in almost 130 years of record-keeping,” says an article by Seth Borenstein published yesterday by the AP.

“The average water temperature worldwide was 17 C, according to the National Climatic Data Center, says Borenstein. (I think Seth could find global warming in a solid block of ice.) “June was only slightly cooler, while August could set another record, scientists say. The previous record was set in July, 1998, during a powerful El Nino weather pattern.”

NASA disagrees. See my July 29 article entitled NOAA fudging the
numbers. http://iceagenow.com/Worlds_oceans_supposedly_hottest_in_130_years-NASA_disagrees.htm

“Meteorologists said there's a combination of forces at work,” says Borenstein. “A natural El Nino system just getting started on top of worsening man-made global warming, and a dash of random weather variations.”

He admits that it’s “a natural El Nino," but he still wants to
blame humans. Then he talks of “worsening man-made global
warming.” What global warming? It has been cooling since 1998.

“It could also hasten the melting of Arctic sea ice,” Borenstein warns.

Is Borenstein not aware that as of August 1st, Canada's
Northwest Passage was still clogged with ice?

“Breaking heat records in water is more ominous as a sign of global warming than breaking temperature marks on land,” Borenstein continues, “because water takes longer to heat up and does not cool off as easily as land.”

“Add to that an unusual weather pattern this summer where the warmest temperatures seem to be just over oceans, while slightly cooler air is concentrated over land.”

Did you catch that? “The warmest temperatures seem to be just
over oceans.” I’m thinking that this article is intended to take our
attention away from the fact that nine Midwestern states just endured,
not "slightly cooler” temperatures, but a record-cold July.

And not just one or two days out of the month, mind you, and not
just one or two cities - nine entire states reported a record-cold July.
(See Record Low Temperatures across the US - Aug 13).

“The problems caused by the El Nino pattern are likely to get worse, the scientists say.

"An El Nino occurs when part of the central Pacific warms up, which in turn changes weather patterns worldwide for many months.”

I agree. But again, an El Nino is a natural phenomenon, not something
caused by humans. (I think it’s caused by underwater volcanic activity.)

“An El Nino has other effects, too, including dampening Atlantic hurricane formation and increasing rainfall and mudslides in Southern California.”

Now this one has me worried. Here we have record-cold temperatures
in the Midwest, while another El Nino fires up in the Pacific Ocean. El
Ninos lead to more evaporation, hence to more moisture rising into the
skies, and thence to record-breaking rainstorms and flooding.

What will happen this winter if all of that excess precipitation begins
falling on those areas that have been experiencing record cold? I fear
that we could see some of the worst snowstorms in written history.

As I say in “Not by Fire but by Ice,” Warmer seas and colder skies:
A deadly combination.

See entire article:
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/technology/science/in-hot-water-warmer-oceans-could-sp ell-environmental-disaster/article1259015/

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/In-hot-water-World-sets-ocean-apf-1959202083.html?x=0&sec=topStories&pos=3&asset=&ccode

[goanna]

pity the last word in the title got cut off....it should read..

Worlds oceans supposedly hottest in 130 years. NASA disagrees!!!!!!!






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[motleyhoo]

This is meaningless data because it cannot be correlated yet with any long term phenomena. You can't say it was colder or hotter in July than at any other time in human history and make any worthwhile conclusions about that wrt climate change.

But, what we do know is that the Sun has been uncharacteristically calm over the last two years or so, and we also know that global energy output (ie, carbon emissions) have been down over that same time period because of the economic slowdown. So, it stands to reason that we will see some cooler temps for a while in some places.

By the way, it is so hot and rainless in NC where I live that the grass is dead and even the trees are already dropping their leaves two months early.

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[1977]

"The time has come," the Walrus said,
"To talk of many things:
Of shoes—and ships—and sealing-wax—
Of cabbages—and kings—
And why the sea is boiling hot—
And whether pigs have wings."

[branjo]

Yeah cause on a 15+ Billion year old planet, 130 years tells us a lot.

I love the statement "Since records began", complete lie right there, I would say the real records go back further than 130 thousand years, the ancients were perfect record keepers, it just so happens that greedy assholes are the gatekeepers of that information today.

Bulldoze the Vatican and crack open the vaults to the library, maybe then we can read something that tells us about our planets past, of that I am in no doubt.

[ozpixie]

I can hear the ocean from my bedroom at night and last night it was so incredibly hot here the dogs woke me up to stoke the wood fire at 12:30am and again at 4:45am.

[mido]

My goal to is to move to a place where I can sleep and wake to the sound of the sea.

[branjo]

My goal to is to move to a place where I can sleep and wake to the sound of the sea.

Make a pair of headphones out of two big seashells :D

[stamaheep]

"The time has come," the Walrus said,
"To talk of many things:
Of shoes—and ships—and sealing-wax—
Of cabbages—and kings—
And why the sea is boiling hot—
And whether pigs have wings."


I lept into the Irish sea in August and I've never known the Sea to be so cold in Summer, my wee willy dissapeared back inside my body. I've swam in a lot of very cold water in my time being from Scotland but this seemed very odd for Summer.:confused:

[lordzoma]

Yeah cause on a 15+ Billion year old planet, 130 years tells us a lot.

I love the statement "Since records began", complete lie right there, I would say the real records go back further than 130 thousand years, the ancients were perfect record keepers, it just so happens that greedy assholes are the gatekeepers of that information today.

Bulldoze the Vatican and crack open the vaults to the library, maybe then we can read something that tells us about our planets past, of that I am in no doubt.

You mean a 5-6 billion year old planet.