Lucid Dreaming For Changing Your Life

[sentient being]

By far the best description of Lucid Dreaming, I've ever read.

Good luck everyone.


http://holosla.com/2009/04/01/lucid-dreaming-for-changing-your-life/




LUCID DREAMING FOR CHANGING YOUR LIFE




Lucid Dreaming is a powerful skill for making changes in yourself and your life. Also known as conscious dreaming, a lucid dream is one in which you are aware you are dreaming. Your body is asleep but your mind is awake and aware. When you are in the lucid dream state, you can actively participate in and manipulate the dream.

The benefits of lucid dreaming are many. As you develop the ability to lucid dream the quality of your sleep will be better. It will be deeper and more restful, and as a result, you will require less sleep overall. One reason is that material that has gone unprocessed from your day or from the past gets worked out in the dreamtime. In the lucid dream state you will gain access to your subconscious mind and be able to work with the material presented to you in a conscious way. You can resolve personal issues and generate solutions to life situations rapidly and with deep effects because you are already working at the level of the subconscious mind where real change occurs.

In addition, you will find that lucid dreaming enhances your intuitive and psychic abilities. The conscious mind uses language as its main means for communicating. The subconscious mind uses the language of symbolic imagery. By practicing being aware in the dream state you develop the ability to be able to read these symbolic messages. Over time, the experience of flashes of insight increases in the waking state along with a greater understanding of these insights because the practice has created a clearer line of communication between your conscious and subconscious mind. As a result, you will function more optimally with intuitive flashes and insights becoming much more a part of your daily life.

To begin lucid dreaming, the first thing is to start remembering your dreams. This is done by keeping a dream journal. Buy a notebook and a pen to keep a record of your dreams and place it by your bed at night. Before you go to sleep, take a minute, and repeat a clear and strong statement of intention to yourself several times, “I will remember at least two dreams by the time I wake up.” This statement of intention is the first communication with your subconscious mind to set up the agreement that you are ready to begin remembering your dreams. As you drift off to sleep, trust that when you awaken you will remember your dreams in the morning.

When you wake up, stay in bed for a few minutes in the dreamy drowsy state known as the hypnogogic state, and with your eyes still closed, try and recall anything you can from the night before. Anything. Whatever it is, even if it is a vague recollection, write it down. If you don’t remember anything that’s fine. Simply, continue the process and you will find that each morning you will remember more. If you remember something during the course of the day make a notation and include it in your dream journal when you get home. When you record your dreams, refrain from analyzing them as you write them down. Just write down whatever comes to you and as much as you can remember. By the end of a few weeks you will be recalling a great deal of dream material.

The second step is done during waking hours. Go through your dream journal and find some event or imagery that repeats itself. Make sure it’s also something that happens to you in your waking life. Pick one of the repeated elements of your dream and whenever you experience that same thing in your waking life, stop and ask yourself, “Am I dreaming?”

For example, if you see your hands in your dreams then throughout the course of your day look at your hands and ask yourself the question, “Am I dreaming?” As another example, if you find that you walk through doorways in your dreams then whenever you walk through a doorway in your waking life touch the door jamb and ask, “Am I dreaming?” This sets up an anchor for remembering. At some point, you will have a dream and, as you see your hands or walk through a doorway or whatever it is you choose to remember, you will reflexively ask the question, “Am I dreaming?” This time the answer will be ‘yes’, and, chances are, that you will find yourself suddenly awake inside the dream!

When you are awake inside the dream you can begin to watch the dream unfold. As you remain in the lucid state you can begin to change and manipulate the dream in different ways. In the beginning, you will be awake and watching the dream like a movie, but over time you will find that you possess greater and greater ability to control the dream and the way it unfolds. Eventually, you will be able to choose what you want to dream and can even begin dreaming about events of the day or of your past where you can change the outcome in ways that serve your highest fulfillment. Changing these events from your day or your past to outcomes that you desire will have a positive effect on your psyche, sense of well-being and self-mastery. You will be reprogramming your subconscious mind to accept the best possible solution or response to an issue or situation and it will make the appropriate changes in your subconscious. You will find that it has a dramatic effect on your waking life, as well. As you become very good at lucid dreaming you can even take future events into the dreamtime and work with them so the outcomes manifest in the way you desire!

Have fun, practice well, and we’ll see you in the dreamtime!

[sentient being]

Live Lucid.

[michael christopher]

Great advice, I am going to try to ask myself that more often. It makes sense. I've only had a couple of lucid dreams but they were amazing experiences.

[sentient being]

Great advice, I am going to try to ask myself that more often. It makes sense. I've only had a couple of lucid dreams but they were amazing experiences.


I'm happy it makes you feel good. A piece of advice I can give, is to do reality checks every 15 minutes if you can. Also, if the people you are around are comfortable, ask aloud "Am I dreaming?" then snap your fingers and see if an item that you desire appears in your hands. If not, tell yourself, "No, I'm awake". "But when I'm dreaming, I will remember I'm dreaming and I"ll stay calm and lucid for a long long time". I find, when I devote myself to every 15 minutes, the lucid dreams come quickly. Posting this has encouraged me to get back on track.

Also, you'll feel so exhillerated if you begin to fly upward. Be sure to remember to lower yourself back onto the ground very gently. Awaken very gently as opposed to abruptly. You'll bring that magnificent lucid energy back with you to the waking world. If you do it abruptly, I find, you bring the same energy back as that of a regular dream.

Good luck. Actually nothing lucky about it. Devote yourself to it and post your first lucid dream, which you will have within 1 week.


Yes, I know you know about lucid dreaming, the advice was for those starting out.

[paradise_1000]

smoke weed all day and you will NOT get any Lucid dreams at all ;)


works like a charm

[mrindigo]

Some good advice there. I dream lucidly quite often and use similar methods, so I would suggest following these steps. I don't personally keep a journal, but that's a good idea. :)

These tactics can be very helpful to people with reoccurring nightmares as well. Once a person is able to actively differentiate between the dream world and this world, nightmares become trivial and are easily controlled.

[michael christopher]

Some good advice there. I dream lucidly quite often and use similar methods, so I would suggest following these steps. I don't personally keep a journal, but that's a good idea. :)

These tactics can be very helpful to people with reoccurring nightmares as well. Once a person is able to actively differentiate between the dream world and this world, nightmares become trivial and are easily controlled.

I have had many attacks in my dreams where I realize I'm dreaming and quickly overpower the attacker, but it usually takes something dramatic like that to make me realize I'm in control.

[sentient being]

Who's gonna be the first to bring something from the "Lucid Realm" to "Waking Reality"? I hope me. But it's gonna be fun to see.

[whiterain]

smoke weed all day and you will NOT get any Lucid dreams at all ;)


works like a charm

stop or cut down though and the lucid dreams will hit you like a sledgehammer.


i once went away for a week without weed. read a bit of a bill hicks anthology on the return journey and the first dream i had when i got back was like i was channeling bills anger. i was literally screaming at people and how stupid/blind we can all be at times and it was so real it freaked the shit out of me cos im generally not an angry person. looking into it though it was great because it led me to take my dreams alot more 'seriously'.

[dmt head]

I have had many attacks in my dreams where I realize I'm dreaming and quickly overpower the attacker, but it usually takes something dramatic like that to make me realize I'm in control.

Same here

[mrindigo]

I have had many attacks in my dreams where I realize I'm dreaming and quickly overpower the attacker, but it usually takes something dramatic like that to make me realize I'm in control.

I'm glad you were able to do that. Sometimes it takes situations like that for our better and stronger sides to emerge. It's often surprising, and that shock can open up other doors when your empowerment is claimed. :)

[mrindigo]

Who's gonna be the first to bring something from the "Lucid Realm" to "Waking Reality"? I hope me. But it's gonna be fun to see.

That would be really cool. The closest I've come to something like that is smells. Here's an example.

I was having an out of body dream, I started out by watching myself sleep while standing at my bed side (that's wild in itself). Everything had this bright orange coloration with a fuzzy glow. After messing around a bit, I flew through my wall. A person in the neighborhood was mowing their lawn. I hovered there admiring the detail and attention he gave to his task. I woke up and the first thing I noticed was the scent of freshly cut grass. My windows were shut too. I can't say I brought it with me, as it could have been my subconscious and conscious mind working at the same time. I was still sleepy so it's possible. Still, it was really strange and a bit exciting. :)

[sentient being]

That would be really cool. The closest I've come to something like that is smells. Here's an example.

I was having an out of body dream, I started out by watching myself sleep while standing at my bed side (that's wild in itself). Everything had this bright orange coloration with a fuzzy glow. After messing around a bit, I flew through my wall. A person in the neighborhood was mowing their lawn. I hovered there admiring the detail and attention he gave to his task. I woke up and the first thing I noticed was the scent of freshly cut grass. My windows were shut too. I can't say I brought it with me, as it could have been my subconscious and conscious mind working at the same time. I was still sleepy so it's possible. Still, it was really strange and a bit exciting. :)



Of course you brought it with you. Remember your windows were shut. Look at how we dismiss/reason away our powers so easily. That's why when we encounter the ridiculous in dreams, we rationalize the bizarre and end up not waking up in the dream. It's okay though, we're taught to rationalize the irrational in our waking world so it transfers into dreams.

So yeah, it is exciting. Keep that excitement with you. I look forward to what else you will bring back/cause to manifest in the waking world, when next YOU GET LUCID. Thanks for sharing.

[sentient being]

Awake or Dreaming?

[mrindigo]

Of course you brought it with you. Remember your windows were shut. Look at how we dismiss/reason away our powers so easily. That's why when we encounter the ridiculous in dreams, we rationalize the bizarre and end up not waking up in the dream. It's okay though, we're taught to rationalize the irrational in our waking world so it transfers into dreams.

So yeah, it is exciting. Keep that excitement with you. I look forward to what else you will bring back/cause to manifest in the waking world, when next YOU GET LUCID. Thanks for sharing.

What you say is true, many of us are very dismissive of our abilities. I understand why, I know how to change that, but it's breaking away from the habit of falling into it that's hard. I'm hopeful I'll be able to get past that soon, and everyone else too for that matter. Thank you for the encouraging words. :)

[devanshoom]

i used to into the lucid dreaming/astral projection thing but it takes an enormous amount of energy and focus...and with the amount of daily crap going on around me I gradually lost the focus neccesary. Yoga, dreams, binauraling and dowsing are things I would like to be doing but at the end of the day I simply dont have the energy/focus required...so more often than not I just end up having a joint in the evening and vegging out in front of my IBM T60......my thirst for online documentaries seems to get in the way of doing stuff that might elevate me to new heights. I lack inner discipline. Sometimes I think I would be better off just packing my computer away and I reckon that alone would free me up somewhat...its just too damn easy to waste time in front of a computer.

[devanshoom]

I recently downloaded a pack entitled "quantum mind power"...it is like binaurals but apparently different in ways that an average layman like myself cannot undertsand. . Im telling you this thing appears to be quite potent. It has a whole load of different brain entrainment MP3s but I havent really got round to using them all and so cant really review it properly.... but what i can say at the MP3 file entitled "digital coffee" actually works. It is designed to do what caffiene does, i.e., give you a kick up the arse and get you doing things when you are lazy. I have a standing heart rate of 47 beats per minute and this often makes me lethergic, especially now i am 36 and getting on a bit....I often find it hard to generate energy in the morning but fuck me that digital coffee audio...I was quite surprised to find myself up and about doing stuff when normally I would be having a lie in.

The digital coffee thing is available on a free download...the rest of the package is quite expensive but you can actually get it free via piratebay...I did this...i feel a bit guilty getting it for free, since it probably took some dude years to create. If the rest of the stuff on there turns out to be as good as the digital coffee thing then I might wire the guy a sheepish donation.

thought i would share this...for what its worth

[sentient being]

i used to into the lucid dreaming/astral projection thing but it takes an enormous amount of energy and focus...and with the amount of daily crap going on around me I gradually lost the focus neccesary. Yoga, dreams, binauraling and dowsing are things I would like to be doing but at the end of the day I simply dont have the energy/focus required...so more often than not I just end up having a joint in the evening and vegging out in front of my IBM T60......my thirst for online documentaries seems to get in the way of doing stuff that might elevate me to new heights. I lack inner discipline. Sometimes I think I would be better off just packing my computer away and I reckon that alone would free me up somewhat...its just too damn easy to waste time in front of a computer.


Isn't truly living, worth it?

[jonbongjovi]

I haven't found it took any particular trick or discipline.. but I've stopped smoking pot for awhile and been reading about lucid dreams and what do you know but I've had 2 in the last 4 sleeps.

First one was very cool..When you realise you are dreaming everything you are seeing it makes you realise just what your brain is capable of and what your subconcious really creates. When the dream started to fade I remembered something i had read from a website about spinning around to resharpen things and it actually worked to my amazement.

My second one wasn't as cool. It was not a nightmare as such but just some dark themes and imagery. When I twigged it was a dream I was'nt sure how to wake myself up. So I decided to jump off a tall building. I was dreading that falling sensation but as soon as I took that jump the dream was over but it was like I was momentarily in sleep paralysis or something.. just took a few secs to properly wake up...weird ass shit but interesting...

[sentient being]

I recently downloaded a pack entitled "quantum mind power"...it is like binaurals but apparently different in ways that an average layman like myself cannot undertsand. . Im telling you this thing appears to be quite potent. It has a whole load of different brain entrainment MP3s but I havent really got round to using them all and so cant really review it properly.... but what i can say at the MP3 file entitled "digital coffee" actually works. It is designed to do what caffiene does, i.e., give you a kick up the arse and get you doing things when you are lazy. I have a standing heart rate of 47 beats per minute and this often makes me lethergic, especially now i am 36 and getting on a bit....I often find it hard to generate energy in the morning but fuck me that digital coffee audio...I was quite surprised to find myself up and about doing stuff when normally I would be having a lie in.

The digital coffee thing is available on a free download...the rest of the package is quite expensive but you can actually get it free via piratebay...I did this...i feel a bit guilty getting it for free, since it probably took some dude years to create. If the rest of the stuff on there turns out to be as good as the digital coffee thing then I might wire the guy a sheepish donation.

thought i would share this...for what its worth


Sounds interesting, however, be careful. Remember a lot of what their experiments et al are about is manipulating the mind through waves and what not. Try to live as natural as possible.

[sentient being]

I haven't found it took any particular trick or discipline.. but I've stopped smoking pot for awhile and been reading about lucid dreams and what do you know but I've had 2 in the last 4 sleeps.

First one was very cool..When you realise you are dreaming everything you are seeing it makes you realise just what your brain is capable of and what your subconcious really creates. When the dream started to fade I remembered something i had read from a website about spinning around to resharpen things and it actually worked to my amazement.

My second one wasn't as cool. It was not a nightmare as such but just some dark themes and imagery. When I twigged it was a dream I was'nt sure how to wake myself up. So I decided to jump off a tall building. I was dreading that falling sensation but as soon as I took that jump the dream was over but it was like I was momentarily in sleep paralysis or something.. just took a few secs to properly wake up...weird ass shit but interesting...


Yeah you want to be as gentle in all you do, after all this is powerful energy with dealing with. We need to be masters at manipulating it into being a gently powerful force as opposed to it being heavy and causing paralysis and such. But you sound pretty good at it. Looking forward to your next.

[kblood]

As a kid I discovered lucid dreaming, and it came natural to me. I looked forward to going to sleep, looked forward to what I might dream that night. Some dreams got repeated, and I tried changing the outcome. Other dreams I tried taking complete control over and make something specific happen, but usually my subconciousn just made something really wierd happen instead or something wierd just interrupted what I was making happen in my dream.

It was all fun and games for me, but later I forgot all about it. Other things in life caught my interest, and I began playing computer games. I guess they replaced my lucid dreaming, since it is kind of similar in some ways. At least the way I was lucid dreaming.

During puberty I experienced oneness, and I got interested in exploring the mind again. After some years of experiementing with it now and then, I discovered that reality seems like a dream as well. Some of the first things that made me come to that conclusion was Einsteins relativity theory. So everything is basicly different kinds of energy? That made everything seem less real. Finally I found ways to become lucid awake. It basicly gives somewhat the same kind of control that you have in a lucid dream, only while awake. A few more bounderies, since it becomes real to others then as well.

Sometimes lucid dreaming gets triggered because there is something you are fighting in a dream, maybe something you fear. Could be a nightmare, and suddenly you realise, hey this cant be happening... oh it isnt. Then you can play around with the nightmare, or if you are still rattled by it then maybe try to wake up. Had a nightmare as a kid where it got lucid, and when trying to wake up then the monsters and people in the dream came to help me wake up. Some of the ways my dreams became strange, and a bit funny as well.

My point is it seems the same thing in real life. My triggers for making reality lucid might have been the adrenaline from almost dying or the experience of actually dying. Just not crossing over. Could also be my encounters with ghosts that handt crossed over yet.

These days I am neither lucid dreaming or experiencing being lucid awake. At least it has been a while. I am trying to enjoy a normal life, but always looking forward to the next time my life gets spiced up by such extraordinary experiences.

[xpleet]

Question for sentient being -

Does lucid dreaming enable you for easy OBEs? I find the seperation process in an ordinary conscious induction procession for OBEs quite difficult, not only in mental discipline but especially in physical relaxation, but lucid dreaming appears like a true shortcut and it is said to work for stepping out.


These days I am neither lucid dreaming or experiencing being lucid awake. At least it has been a while. I am trying to enjoy a normal life, but always looking forward to the next time my life gets spiced up by such extraordinary experiences.

What is it that makes the ordinary way of life worth over liviing one of constant raising awareness and experiencing the higher levels?
Living a 5-sense life - of and for fun? For relationships, family, toys?

I'm asking myself, what has happened to you seekers.

I see one seeker after another falling, succumbing to thought-mind grid of the slavery way of life, aka society, a place of indefinite confusion, suffering, and a trail of tears.

It seems like many seekers just can't take it anymore, as if they were at the end of their powers now and I certainly don't exclude myself, but the consequence for me is not to succumb, I'm bailing out!

Don't tell me there's a middle-way because there is none. I've heard this excuse enough times. There are only tendencies and there is a decision to make.

[godgoo]

Think I must have just had an hour of the most stressful dreaming this year. Walking up and down a Hill and around a hill looking for someone, hiding from a bear. Realising that I havent fed my iguana for 3 months and it's turned white, I open the lid it jumps out and I can't get it back into the tub ( I dont have an iguana?). So I have had 5 hours sleep all night, but I feel great. Oh yeah and also being in a room doing something important dont know exactly what, but the door kept opening and people asking me to let the dog out? what an obnoxious dream.

Also the iguana was in an unsuitable container, it was inside a tank that was way too small. and it had no food, so I was furious with my self and was wondering WTF? had happened to me that I forgot about it. And I was shouting an swearing at everyone, Saying that iguana's had no fukin food for three month.

The bear dream is abit sketchy but it also had alot of doors also, and I kept letting peoples pets out they kept running off. And I had to go looking for them.?
I was like WTF in hell.

The room dream was only short but that one I woke up with because I snapped and got angry. So I woke up, but I didn't feel pissed. I am having a good morning :)

[jonbongjovi]

I had a dream where all I really remembered is noticing a sticker saying "mind your mind".

I googled it the next morning and the first few google hits were for alzhemiers/mental health. Hope its not prophetic!

I also was getting stressed with a problem from work. In my dream I was working on the same problem and I did something that fixed it! The next day however when I came into work and tried the same fix it failed.. ah well a shame cos that would have been really cool.

[itsallinus]

Lucid dreams used to happen to me frequently but stopped for a few years then started again. When they become lucid I gain awareness that everyone on the planet knows me, they see me as a 'superman'. No matter what the dream I can always fly and generally do so, sometimes it can be harder to control depending on environment. The other night I was in a remote prison, not a nice place to be, then when I became aware I was dreaming I changed the rules and became invisible then escape. I remember lots of the prisoners being set free (the prison was on a beach and the prisoners dived into the water upon being released). I went with them then woke up.

Sometimes I am flying around futuristic cities and am always known by everyone on the planet. I also tend to fight were-wolves and often allow them to tear me apart, and I smile at them while it happens..knowing always I am untouchable as I have let go of fear.

I sometimes wake soaked in sweat (I mean realy like I am actually in a bath :eek::D)

[sentient being]

Question for sentient being -

Does lucid dreaming enable you for easy OBEs? I find the seperation process in an ordinary conscious induction procession for OBEs quite difficult, not only in mental discipline but especially in physical relaxation, but lucid dreaming appears like a true shortcut and it is said to work for stepping out.


What is it that makes the ordinary way of life worth over liviing one of constant raising awareness and experiencing the higher levels?
Living a 5-sense life - of and for fun? For relationships, family, toys?

I'm asking myself, what has happened to you seekers.

I see one seeker after another falling, succumbing to thought-mind grid of the slavery way of life, aka society, a place of indefinite confusion, suffering, and a trail of tears.

It seems like many seekers just can't take it anymore, as if they were at the end of their powers now and I certainly don't exclude myself, but the consequence for me is not to succumb, I'm bailing out!

Don't tell me there's a middle-way because there is none. I've heard this excuse enough times. There are only tendencies and there is a decision to make.

Xpleet:

To tell you the truth, there's something I feel uneasy about in OBE's. I've never contemplated doing it. When some talk about visiting Astral Planes and meeting different entities there, it's not something I wish to partake off. There are enough human "entities" to deal with in the waking reality.

Why I'm fascinated with "lucid dreaming",It can enrich my life and grant me back, the absoloute control of my individuality/life/wholeness because it gives you direct access to the "subconsconscious"/inner world" (hmmmm...note the word "con") there. .

Nevertheless, it is the inner stuff that is calling the shots and there is the urgent need to eradicate all the bullshit that was covertly placed there by the "PTB". So again, OBE's etc., may just very well be another distraction from "lucid dreaming" to keep us from tidying up/exiting/escaping the matrix mentality. You know they have their hands in everything you discover, just waiting to thwart you.

Also in society I noticed "lucid dreaming" is very much played down, while "Astral Travel, OBE's, Channelling, etc., are focused on quite a bit. That alone tells me, those are not something I want to play with. Only things that will improve my quality of life and ensure my perpetual freedom/freeness should be worthy of my consideration.

When you speak of "bailing out", how will you bail? Also what is the decision that needs to be made.

I realize this is all about consciousness/what goes into the mind creates. The Borg Agenda exemplifies what it's about, very succintly.

Yes, the only way to bail, is to leave all technology and focus only on your own thoughts and desires, it's a beautiful planet. We can either sink into their doom and gloom while they enjoy the planet, or unplug from their words/messages and enjoy the planet/life too.

Notice this conspiracy thing has been exposed for over 60 years and more. All to what avail? What did it profit "Cooper"? In the end he became a little meglamanical and left a lonely wife and daughter, as opposed to just extricating himself and enjoying his life, after he imparted certain truths. Perhaps the "conspiracy revealing" is the tool to keep those of us, who already saw society long time ago for what it truly is and don't partake in their boring movies, tv, sports, technological gadgets, mind numbing conversations et al.

Like another poster said, he saw in his dream, "mind your mind". Exactly, we need to turn of the computer, don't bother tell anyone anything, unless asked, so as to keep consciousness, individuality, goodness alive. As long as we keep focusing on anything about them after knowing about them, we are just giving our energy to their Agenda. We are partaking in their "One Consciousness" of the Borg Agenda. You should check out that series.

Yes anything bigging up "oneness", stay away from. Me too, I allow myself to get distracted from what I am creating, but that should end now.

Don't let anything get you down. Remember you are a creator, with your thoughts and feelings you create. Unplug and master yourself. Life is about love, companionship, the beutiful scenery of this magnificent planet, growing food, plants, flowers, animals, painting, swimming, water skiing and so much more.

When you get bored, then if you like, you can make an exit. Don't get into their tripe, focusing on death and gloom. Get back to you and enjoy life, there is nothing wrong with being alive and having such a magnificent body/vehicle to experience the joy of touch, sound, feeling, taste, hearing, loving, etc.,

The tv may be bad, but the inet is super the same. Much, much easier to control and manipulate the consciousness/mind, the messages and images go in super quickly.

Imagine you go to sleep and dream about all this tripe. What would happen if you went to bed and dreamt only of your own thoughts. This is your life, you owe no one anything but to keep joy and goodness alive. Everything else you need to know will always appear for you when you need it. Come away from the Matrix/Mother of All Tricks/Lies/Distractions. Trust me, I don't think we were initially created to feel like shit most of the time.

[sentient being]

As a kid I discovered lucid dreaming, and it came natural to me. I looked forward to going to sleep, looked forward to what I might dream that night. Some dreams got repeated, and I tried changing the outcome. Other dreams I tried taking complete control over and make something specific happen, but usually my subconciousn just made something really wierd happen instead or something wierd just interrupted what I was making happen in my dream.

It was all fun and games for me, but later I forgot all about it. Other things in life caught my interest, and I began playing computer games. I guess they replaced my lucid dreaming, since it is kind of similar in some ways. At least the way I was lucid dreaming.

During puberty I experienced oneness, and I got interested in exploring the mind again. After some years of experiementing with it now and then, I discovered that reality seems like a dream as well. Some of the first things that made me come to that conclusion was Einsteins relativity theory. So everything is basicly different kinds of energy? That made everything seem less real. Finally I found ways to become lucid awake. It basicly gives somewhat the same kind of control that you have in a lucid dream, only while awake. A few more bounderies, since it becomes real to others then as well.

Sometimes lucid dreaming gets triggered because there is something you are fighting in a dream, maybe something you fear. Could be a nightmare, and suddenly you realise, hey this cant be happening... oh it isnt. Then you can play around with the nightmare, or if you are still rattled by it then maybe try to wake up. Had a nightmare as a kid where it got lucid, and when trying to wake up then the monsters and people in the dream came to help me wake up. Some of the ways my dreams became strange, and a bit funny as well.

My point is it seems the same thing in real life. My triggers for making reality lucid might have been the adrenaline from almost dying or the experience of actually dying. Just not crossing over. Could also be my encounters with ghosts that handt crossed over yet.

These days I am neither lucid dreaming or experiencing being lucid awake. At least it has been a while. I am trying to enjoy a normal life, but always looking forward to the next time my life gets spiced up by such extraordinary experiences.


Fascinating. any tips you can remember for inducing "instant lucidity" while awake.

[sentient being]

Think I must have just had an hour of the most stressful dreaming this year. Walking up and down a Hill and around a hill looking for someone, hiding from a bear. Realising that I havent fed my iguana for 3 months and it's turned white, I open the lid it jumps out and I can't get it back into the tub ( I dont have an iguana?). So I have had 5 hours sleep all night, but I feel great. Oh yeah and also being in a room doing something important dont know exactly what, but the door kept opening and people asking me to let the dog out? what an obnoxious dream.

Also the iguana was in an unsuitable container, it was inside a tank that was way too small. and it had no food, so I was furious with my self and was wondering WTF? had happened to me that I forgot about it. And I was shouting an swearing at everyone, Saying that iguana's had no fukin food for three month.

The bear dream is abit sketchy but it also had alot of doors also, and I kept letting peoples pets out they kept running off. And I had to go looking for them.?
I was like WTF in hell.

The room dream was only short but that one I woke up with because I snapped and got angry. So I woke up, but I didn't feel pissed. I am having a good morning :)


godgoo:

Remember that your dreams are your "emotional" landscape. What does an iguana mean to you? Think, what have you been neglecting for the 3 months. What do pets mean to you/how do they make you feel?

At least you woke up and are feeling good. Some kind of emotion/s/feelings you have released lately?

Interesting.

[sentient being]

I had a dream where all I really remembered is noticing a sticker saying "mind your mind".

I googled it the next morning and the first few google hits were for alzhemiers/mental health. Hope its not prophetic!

I also was getting stressed with a problem from work. In my dream I was working on the same problem and I did something that fixed it! The next day however when I came into work and tried the same fix it failed.. ah well a shame cos that would have been really cool.



Very smart dream. "Mind your mind". How long are you spending on this stuff? Your inner self is recording all this information. Are you protecting what you allow into your mind? Or is it full of other peoples ideas/beliefs/agendas, thereby creating their world/reality?. Extricate yourself. Or at least be extrememly careful of everything you read, knowing that's what will create your experiences. Check "The Borg Agenda"

Hope you get lucid dreams soon.

[lakkimakki]

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=63431&highlight=hemisync

e check my tread and listen to;

WAVE 1 - DISCOVERY


1 ORIENTATION
2 INTRO TO FOCUS
3 ADVANCED FOCUS
4 RELEASE AND RECHARGE
5 EXPLORATION, SLEEP <------------- that one :D
6 FREE FLOW 10

makes you remember more.

[sentient being]

Lucid dreams used to happen to me frequently but stopped for a few years then started again. When they become lucid I gain awareness that everyone on the planet knows me, they see me as a 'superman'. No matter what the dream I can always fly and generally do so, sometimes it can be harder to control depending on environment. The other night I was in a remote prison, not a nice place to be, then when I became aware I was dreaming I changed the rules and became invisible then escape. I remember lots of the prisoners being set free (the prison was on a beach and the prisoners dived into the water upon being released). I went with them then woke up.

Sometimes I am flying around futuristic cities and am always known by everyone on the planet. I also tend to fight were-wolves and often allow them to tear me apart, and I smile at them while it happens..knowing always I am untouchable as I have let go of fear.

I sometimes wake soaked in sweat (I mean realy like I am actually in a bath :eek::D)


Most interesting ;the wereo-wolves and letting go of fear. Do you feel that has improved your quality of life?

[sentient being]

Question for sentient being -

Does lucid dreaming enable you for easy OBEs? I find the seperation process in an ordinary conscious induction procession for OBEs quite difficult, not only in mental discipline but especially in physical relaxation, but lucid dreaming appears like a true shortcut and it is said to work for stepping out.




What is it that makes the ordinary way of life worth over liviing one of constant raising awareness and experiencing the higher levels?
Living a 5-sense life - of and for fun? For relationships, family, toys?


Yes indeed, from what I can overstand thus far, LDing seems to be the best short cut.

You have to realize because of mass covert manipulation of people's consciousness, acceptance of the "ordinary way of life" is the only way many can endure their lives of quiet desperation. It isn't until one is showed something new, a viable alternative, that people have no other choice but to endure their lives of quiet desperation.

This is why many of us have to get on the ball and begin to create a magnificent life away from society's dictates, in order to bring hope to others. Remember, example, tangible evidence is the only way we're going to help fellow mankind to escape their desperation. We must be a living example that there is other ways to live, apart from these vile monsters.

Yes, we've reached perhaps the final gate with the "conspiracies". Now that we know the score, time to unplug and be a living example.

[xpleet]

Xpleet:

To tell you the truth, there's something I feel uneasy about in OBE's. I've never contemplated doing it. When some talk about visiting Astral Planes and meeting different entities there, it's not something I wish to partake off. There are enough human "entities" to deal with in the waking reality.

Why I'm fascinated with "lucid dreaming",It can enrich my life and grant me back, the absoloute control of my individuality/life/wholeness because it gives you direct access to the "subconsconscious"/inner world" (hmmmm...note the word "con") there. .

Nevertheless, it is the inner stuff that is calling the shots and there is the urgent need to eradicate all the bullshit that was covertly placed there by the "PTB". So again, OBE's etc., may just very well be another distraction from "lucid dreaming" to keep us from tidying up/exiting/escaping the matrix mentality. You know they have their hands in everything you discover, just waiting to thwart you.

Also in society I noticed "lucid dreaming" is very much played down, while "Astral Travel, OBE's, Channelling, etc., are focused on quite a bit. That alone tells me, those are not something I want to play with. Only things that will improve my quality of life and ensure my perpetual freedom/freeness should be worthy of my consideration.

When you speak of "bailing out", how will you bail? Also what is the decision that needs to be made.

I realize this is all about consciousness/what goes into the mind creates. The Borg Agenda exemplifies what it's about, very succintly.

Yes, the only way to bail, is to leave all technology and focus only on your own thoughts and desires, it's a beautiful planet. We can either sink into their doom and gloom while they enjoy the planet, or unplug from their words/messages and enjoy the planet/life too.

Notice this conspiracy thing has been exposed for over 60 years and more. All to what avail? What did it profit "Cooper"? In the end he became a little meglamanical and left a lonely wife and daughter, as opposed to just extricating himself and enjoying his life, after he imparted certain truths. Perhaps the "conspiracy revealing" is the tool to keep those of us, who already saw society long time ago for what it truly is and don't partake in their boring movies, tv, sports, technological gadgets, mind numbing conversations et al.

Like another poster said, he saw in his dream, "mind your mind". Exactly, we need to turn of the computer, don't bother tell anyone anything, unless asked, so as to keep consciousness, individuality, goodness alive. As long as we keep focusing on anything about them after knowing about them, we are just giving our energy to their Agenda. We are partaking in their "One Consciousness" of the Borg Agenda. You should check out that series.

Yes anything bigging up "oneness", stay away from. Me too, I allow myself to get distracted from what I am creating, but that should end now.

Don't let anything get you down. Remember you are a creator, with your thoughts and feelings you create. Unplug and master yourself. Life is about love, companionship, the beutiful scenery of this magnificent planet, growing food, plants, flowers, animals, painting, swimming, water skiing and so much more.

When you get bored, then if you like, you can make an exit. Don't get into their tripe, focusing on death and gloom. Get back to you and enjoy life, there is nothing wrong with being alive and having such a magnificent body/vehicle to experience the joy of touch, sound, feeling, taste, hearing, loving, etc.,

The tv may be bad, but the inet is super the same. Much, much easier to control and manipulate the consciousness/mind, the messages and images go in super quickly.

Imagine you go to sleep and dream about all this tripe. What would happen if you went to bed and dreamt only of your own thoughts. This is your life, you owe no one anything but to keep joy and goodness alive. Everything else you need to know will always appear for you when you need it. Come away from the Matrix/Mother of All Tricks/Lies/Distractions. Trust me, I don't think we were initially created to feel like shit most of the time.


You do beg me to answer.

the joy of touch, sound, feeling, taste, hearing, loving, etc.,
growing food, plants, flowers, animals, painting, swimming, water skiing and so much more.


They are desires that inevitably cause more suffering (whether in the end or not) than they cause anything positive. They bring about dependance, fear (of loss or inability) and strive, it is essentially a trail of tears.

Neither do I have any interest in the trap of the 5-sense illusion nor do I have any interest in any kind of worldly activities.


Consider that you've been on a Mary-go-round.
There was a time once, long ago when you stepped in, you saw both the caroussel you're in and the real reality of things outside. But then the carrousel started going. And as you were turning faster and faster with the carrousel, the outside world started bluring out and eventually all you could see is the inside of the Mary-go-round.

The only difference with this little analogy to the real world is, that the virtual-reality we are in right now, is composed of electrons spinning around protons, planet Earth spinning around itself, aswell as round the sun etc.


The reality of things is, that your real consciousness, the spirit does not move. But it is encased in many spinning platonic forms that enable the illusions and make up many subtle bodies. At the end of it, you're attached to a physical body and condemned to an existence of entertaining the physical mind and body.

This is why someone sitting on a rock, 12 hours a day, eyes shut while he is connected to the real self within, is countless times happier than someone who is living high "life".

With focused effort anyone can break the illusions. Then, a new existence can unfold and the useless baggage known as "life" can be overcome.

Soon, the creators of the virtual-reality and their supporters, who in a joint effort have been harvesting energy from us, the prisoners, by having us suffer, will pay and they will pay hard. They will dissipate together with the illusions they have created while the prisoners will be set free forever.

[itsallinus]

Most interesting ;the wereo-wolves and letting go of fear. Do you feel that has improved your quality of life?

In the long run yes. Understanding that the werewolf changes form made me think I am afraid of change or needed to make a change in my life but was always fighting it. Accepting the beast (or whatever you run from) may be a part of your subconscious and not fighting or running and facing it...well I think it has helped. :D

[song_of_susannah]

You do beg me to answer.




They are desires that inevitably cause more suffering (whether in the end or not) than they cause anything positive. They bring about dependance, fear (of loss or inability) and strive, it is essentially a trail of tears.

Neither do I have any interest in the trap of the 5-sense illusion nor do I have any interest in any kind of worldly activities.


Consider that you've been on a Mary-go-round.
There was a time once, long ago when you stepped in, you saw both the caroussel you're in and the real reality of things outside. But then the carrousel started going. And as you were turning faster and faster with the carrousel, the outside world started bluring out and eventually all you could see is the inside of the Mary-go-round.

The only difference with this little analogy to the real world is, that the virtual-reality we are in right now, is composed of electrons spinning around protons, planet Earth spinning around itself, aswell as round the sun etc.


The reality of things is, that your real consciousness, the spirit does not move. But it is encased in many spinning platonic forms that enable the illusions and make up many subtle bodies. At the end of it, you're attached to a physical body and condemned to an existence of entertaining the physical mind and body.

This is why someone sitting on a rock, 12 hours a day, eyes shut while he is connected to the real self within, is countless times happier than someone who is living high "life".

With focused effort anyone can break the illusions. Then, a new existence can unfold and the useless baggage known as "life" can be overcome.

Soon, the creators of the virtual-reality and their supporters, who in a joint effort have been harvesting energy from us, the prisoners, by having us suffer, will pay and they will pay hard. They will dissipate together with the illusions they have created while the prisoners will be set free forever.


Xpleet, there are beings still very much in the physical world who have little or no interest in spiritual life who are viable, working on the energy level for the True Light.

Things are not always what they appear, and while I understand your frustration, you may be serving a useful purpose beyond what is obvious.

I don't know what you mean by bailing out, but you will go when the time is right :)

[xpleet]

there are beings still very much in the physical world who have little or no interest in spiritual life who are viable, working on the energy level for the True Light.

No part in their mission requires them to detach themselves from the True Light and follow these illusions instead.
They are deceived and it's time for every one of them to let go off those illusions. As they're holding on to them, it will only greatly increase their suffering when the time becomes critical.

[nectars]

You may find this interesting to play with :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ba_KsblXmvQ&feature=player_embedded

http://www.timothyfreke.com/lucid.php

I have the above in audiobook(along with a load of other stuff on Astral/Lucid etc), if anyone wants it PM me.

[song_of_susannah]

No part in their mission requires them to detach themselves from the True Light and follow these illusions instead.
They are deceived and it's time for every one of them to let go off those illusions. As they're holding on to them, it will only greatly increase their suffering when the time becomes critical.

It is not about detaching fom the Light, it is about being consciously aware or not. This info is from Amitakh herself.
You will remember most Attas - Jefferson, Franklin, Paine etc had no conscious awareness of their missions?

I am talking about usefulness on the energy level.

[itsallinus]

I would like to hear some more stories about peoples lucid dreams. C'mon guys, there must be some amazing tales for the campfires ;)

[kblood]

Fascinating. any tips you can remember for inducing "instant lucidity" while awake.

Mostly it seemed to happen by accident, or maybe because of what sometimes cause a dream to become lucid. Something happening that your mind cant accept, and therefore wakes up. The only way of being somewhat sure of getting a lucid awake state is a near death experience, in my experience. That does seem a bit too risky.

What I would think of as a better way would be going for the oneness state first, which I believe is the first step. Maybe the only step needed, and with practice it can become a lucid awake state.

Here is a thread where I went in depth about it:
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=67973&page=13

And another one on the thread actually used it and successfully got into this oneness state. Here is the most to the point post about it:

I have had periods being psychotic. Which isnt as bad as it sounds, but it makes it very difficult to sleep. And lack of sleep can also be the cause of it. But I have always found those periods of time quite interesting and learned from them, although it usually is causing concern to my family. One of the things I have learned from it is that the state is easier to get into getting one nights good sleep. 8 hours, or more if you feel like it. Then try going about 24 hours without sleep. At some point doing that time where you usually sleep it should be possible to get into that in between state. If you catch yourself being in it, it seems easier to stay in the state. Otherwise I guess it just comes and goes, or you just fall asleep.

Another way to reach it is exercising. One time I got into the state while running. Suddenly the body didnt feel heavy anymore, and it felt like I could run as fast as I liked to without getting exhausting. Breathing just came naturally and my whole body just seemed to be running on its own. I have been running a few times. Sometimes it was 3km with my school, and 5km at some other run that is there yearly and I went with my family every year for 4 or 5 years. The one time I got that oneness feeling was a school event, running 3 or 5 km... dont remember. And suddenly I just got into that state.

To finish the running part. After getting into that state while running, my body just seemed to run out its own. It felt as if I could run forever and I didnt feel tired or exhausted at all. I am guessing this is one of the reasons some people gets "hooked" on exercising hours each day. As if its a drug on its own, and even though I havent done drugs, I guess the state is quite similar to being high on drugs.

[whiterain]

hi k your right yeah ive had that feeling of being completely weightless like i was just part of the scenery floating along for as long as i wanted, but only with lsd so far




so last night i was having this fcking ridiculous dream and it got to this point where i was given a present and the emotion of it completely overwhelmed me and i was absolutely exstatic that someone gave me this gift. when id stopped weeping with joy i lay back and started to melt ino the surroundings exactly like the beggining of a salvia trip which freaked me out and i resisted and shook it off.

anyone had similar? as soon as anything like this happens these days it just terrifies me for some pathetic reason and i fight it.

any tricks for not being such a wimp when it comes to such experiences. i just wish this fear would leave me, but it seems to stick to me like superglue

[joeri]

Another usefull tip: when u feel the lucid dream is fading away try to lay on the ground in your lucid dream and it will come back very strong again. :)

[gods sun]

san pedro before bed.

[clint_giles]

kool

[nightingale]

I've been having a problem with lucid dreaming lately. The last time I was having lucid dreams fairly often (usually by doing lots of reality checks during the day), I found myself getting stuck a lot. And waking up with sleep paralysis.

I'd be in a dream, become lucid and for whatever reason the dream ends-- but I do not fully wake up. I can somewhat feel myself laying in my bed, physically but I can't move or open my eyes and it just feels like my mind is some place else-- usually this is accompanied by a strange overwhelming feeling of being in a wind tunnel. With a very loud whooshing sound in my ears. Meanwhile I'd become more awake physically but it always took a while to be able to snap out of it and wake up fully, but even then I'd usually be paralyzed for about 20 seconds. A lot of times I'd feel a presence pushing me down, too and I'd scream at it in my head which seemed to help-- but the loud whooshing sound would still be there until I could move my body.

Any thoughts..?

[nimlyn]

I had a dream recently where I was dreaming about inheriting a property then I realised that I’d had that dream before so I mentioned this fact in the dream and then I went on to inspect the property…Although I had no control over what I was doing, Just the realisation that I’d had that type of dream before…:eek:

Then there’s another bothersome thing that’s been happening this year…I begin to have a dream where I feel as though I’m aware of myself in my dreams but then this guy with an annoying accent http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qiaJIhpjgSU&feature=related speaks so I’m forced to snap out of my dream...:(

[jonbongjovi]

To finish the running part. After getting into that state while running, my body just seemed to run out its own. It felt as if I could run forever and I didnt feel tired or exhausted at all. I am guessing this is one of the reasons some people gets "hooked" on exercising hours each day. As if its a drug on its own, and even though I havent done drugs, I guess the state is quite similar to being high on drugs.

Yes the 'runners high' is a well documented endorphin rush. The reason why I think exercise is probably more important for mental than physical reasons. I have experienced this and its interesting how you describe it as 'waking lucidity'.

I felt is as sharpened awareness with that weightless feeling. Its a different high than any drug i've had.

[mountain]

For my personal li'l pointers to astral travel and lucid dream, clicky my bloggy linky below in my siggy. :)

For those that are weary of links, shall I make a thread and copy the contents of my blog onto it?! Just wondering....

[kblood]

Yes the 'runners high' is a well documented endorphin rush. The reason why I think exercise is probably more important for mental than physical reasons. I have experienced this and its interesting how you describe it as 'waking lucidity'.

I felt is as sharpened awareness with that weightless feeling. Its a different high than any drug i've had.

It isnt exactly what I call waking lucidity, but it is almost exactly like the state of oneness. On its own it doesnt seem to cause waking lucidity. But my theory is that the next step from it, is waking lucidity. In the oneness state, answers come easy. Think of something you would like to know the answer to, and the answer just seems to pop up in your head. Not much logic deduction behind the answer that I am aware of, but after having that answer, it seems obvious. And the logic behind it also seems to add up. Cant remember anything specific at the moment.

But in general what I found out in this state, or have come to believe because of it is that the beauty of this, is everything seems random, but due to the factors behind it all, everything seems to evolve. I believe that in real life our technology and way of life is making the physical life more and more like the spiritual. The Internet and mobile phones, flying, spacetravel, all of it makes communication and travel alot faster and the whole world seems smaller.

Which is why I dont see this place as a prison or a hell. There is much we can learn from it. In the spiritual state love is taken for granted I believe, although in this world we can learn why love is so important. Actions have consequences and everything is constantly changing, instead of being eternal and without time.

As for actuall lucid dreaming, I miss it. Dont remember having lucid dreams since I was a kid. At least not the kind with the amount of control I had back then.

[sentient being]

I believe that in real life our technology and way of life is making the physical life more and more like the spiritual. The Internet and mobile phones, flying, spacetravel, all of it makes communication and travel alot faster and the whole world seems smaller.


I think you should view "The Borg Agenda". You may then want to rethink the aforementioned.

[whiterain]

do you not find the oneness of the spirit world very borg like then?

[sentient being]

do you not find the oneness of the spirit world very borg like then?


Very much so. The only way out of this is through Individuality mentality/Individuality devlopment.

[sentient being]

Had a lucid dream night before last. Was very pleased that I managed to stay lucid for so long, however, disappointed it wasn't thrilling like it usually is. I haven't the heart to post the details as it was so close to what I wanted to acheive yet I didn't. Nevertheless, all this talk about lucidity and the many reality checks and the long periods of time off the internet seems to be working towards lucidity. Will post when I again get lucid. I hope to be lucid 24/7 and ALL my dreams to be lucid from this moment on. It's most imperative at a time like this. I look forward to reading others experiences when I peek in now and then.

Ciao for now and let Individuality rule.

[sentient being]

For my personal li'l pointers to astral travel and lucid dream, clicky my bloggy linky below in my siggy. :)

For those that are weary of links, shall I make a thread and copy the contents of my blog onto it?! Just wondering....


Hi Mountain:

I read your blog and it was interesting. However, what have been the benefits of "Astral" travel to your waking world? Has it greatly enhanced, purged, cleansed and purified your inner/emotional being? Also I'm extremely interested in what if anything have you created in this realm and brought back/have had manifested in your waking reality.

Also I'm curious as too what the difference between the "Lucid" realm and the "Astral" realm. Why is society eager to place so little emphasis on the "Lucid" realm and take us so quickly to the "Astral".

From what I've heard about the "Astral" realm, it's not something I wish to delve into. The "Lucid" realm is what I wish to really Master.

Look forward to your reply.

[whiterain]

hi sentient b. i would suggest form limited knowledge that everything is some kind of astral realm. nothing to fear unless you are afraid. stupid paradoxes.

had a rambling holiday dream last night. one of the clearest ever but was even too clear and too real to be able to realise lucidity. even at one point i got busted for something and was being led away and i said to myself 'oh well the only way im gonna get away with this now is if its a dream, but theres no chance of that!'

also i think i was having some kinds of non conscious projections towards the end. dont remember much but i woke with the distinct impression i had been spinning through psychadelic patterns

[kblood]

Had a lucid dream night before last. Was very pleased that I managed to stay lucid for so long, however, disappointed it wasn't thrilling like it usually is. I haven't the heart to post the details as it was so close to what I wanted to acheive yet I didn't. Nevertheless, all this talk about lucidity and the many reality checks and the long periods of time off the internet seems to be working towards lucidity. Will post when I again get lucid. I hope to be lucid 24/7 and ALL my dreams to be lucid from this moment on. It's most imperative at a time like this. I look forward to reading others experiences when I peek in now and then.

Ciao for now and let Individuality rule.

I havent read what you refered to, but have seen the Star Trek kind of Borg, and they are interesting and fascinating. I dont think that is where we are heading at all though, I even think this plane of existance might be helping to make spiritual beings become more individual. While we have a physical shape, I believe purely spiritual beings doesnt have shapes, so their only way of "sensing" each other is how each other feel. Their aura or something like that. At least that is the only real sense I have had when being without my body. Thoughts and feelings, even though emotion might not be part of it, so feeling might be the wrong description. Maybe its just sensing in its essense.

So they might feel borg like without a plane like this to get more varied feedbacks and sensations.

I found some videos about this borg agenda, I think I will watch it later.

I guess maybe reality checks would help me get lucid dreams again, but I rarely even remember my dreams these days.

[sentient being]

I havent read what you refered to, but have seen the Star Trek kind of Borg, and they are interesting and fascinating. I dont think that is where we are heading at all though, I even think this plane of existance might be helping to make spiritual beings become more individual. While we have a physical shape, I believe purely spiritual beings doesnt have shapes, so their only way of "sensing" each other is how each other feel. Their aura or something like that. At least that is the only real sense I have had when being without my body. Thoughts and feelings, even though emotion might not be part of it, so feeling might be the wrong description. Maybe its just sensing in its essense.

So they might feel borg like without a plane like this to get more varied feedbacks and sensations.

I found some videos about this borg agenda, I think I will watch it later.

I guess maybe reality checks would help me get lucid dreams again, but I rarely even remember my dreams these days.



Hi K:

Here are some links. You can view these and you will begin to understand what the Start Trek series was designed to inculcate into you. Great doc. If you don't want to watch it on YOUTUBE. The first 2 parts in whole are on his website. A treat is ever, you don't want to miss. Enjoy.






http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PIjt4-77Gqw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1Dn0EcuQU8&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i5_W_xslcj0


FOR TRAILER #3 GO TO HIS WEBSITE: lenonhonorfilms.com



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QEfnKiveAdo&feature=PlayList&p=0D732BC0097BA0DC&index=0&playnext=1

[sentient being]

Also:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gvk33Hw2mj8

[sentient being]

No Lucid Dream. But dreams with lots of happiness and cash.

[spock]

smoke weed all day and you will NOT get any Lucid dreams at all ;)


works like a charm

but as soon as you stop!!

wham!! obe's and lucid dreams even in 5 min kips on the couch

[synergy777]

i had a dream last night where i saw the top of the kabblah/tree, and the three top centres lit up, and it said keter krishna.

i am not really a follower of the kabbalah, but i do follow the chakra system. thus i was bemused this morning, after a little researching, its seems that keter/krishna is the same thing.

does anyone know about this stuff. as to be frank i have overlooked the spiritual side of things, prefering to concentrate on politics/economics/secret socities eg the nwo/world government etc.

also, on bloomberg yesterday, they spoke about the possible future world currency, its no longer conspiracy.

watch the markets get hit hard in sept/oct, the second wave/correction is coming.

[sentient being]

i had a dream last night where i saw the top of the kabblah/tree, and the three top centres lit up, and it said keter krishna.

i am not really a follower of the kabbalah, but i do follow the chakra system. thus i was bemused this morning, after a little researching, its seems that keter/krishna is the same thing.

does anyone know about this stuff. as to be frank i have overlooked the spiritual side of things, prefering to concentrate on politics/economics/secret socities eg the nwo/world government etc.

also, on bloomberg yesterday, they spoke about the possible future world currency, its no longer conspiracy.

watch the markets get hit hard in sept/oct, the second wave/correction is coming.

Isn't the kaballah a part of mass consciousness/the borg agenda? Isn't chakra systems-new age/krishna-religion/politics/economics/secret society/nwo/world gov, etc., all a part of mass consciousness/the borg agenda? Also bloomberg and the rest of the fearmongering liars are part of mass consciousness?

All this info you let into your consciousness, you help them create. They even got you looking forward to and in the long run, helping to create, "markets getting hit hard".

Does your consciousness/dreams contain any of your personal hopes and desires? Is your consciousness aiding in creating beauty, majesty and dignity on this magnificent planet? Or is it filled with information from The Borg's new technological tool (inter NET & World Wide WEB) for the "oneness", "mass consciousness" of theiirs that will usher in their agenda for no "Individuality"? They say TV is powerful, this ugly square box is thousands of more times more efficient for their decitful trickeries.

Should take my own advice and just turn the the invasive mind hore, off.

[particlepopup]

Just a quickie, my first LD i was overwhelmed with finding conciousness in my dream, knowing that i was dreaming, i was stood at the side of a tree caressing the leaves manipulating and plying them in my fingers, the sensation of roughness on the bark, smelling tree on my hand, how is this possible i thought, i am asleep but here, i am me, there are clouds and birds plants and trees even a stone bridge with a railway, words are not fitting to the seeing and feeling i experieced. Ive had a good few since and still they are amazing.

[sentient being]

Just a quickie, my first LD i was overwhelmed with finding conciousness in my dream, knowing that i was dreaming, i was stood at the side of a tree caressing the leaves manipulating and plying them in my fingers, the sensation of roughness on the bark, smelling tree on my hand, how is this possible i thought, i am asleep but here, i am me, there are clouds and birds plants and trees even a stone bridge with a railway, words are not fitting to the seeing and feeling i experieced. Ive had a good few since and still they are amazing.


Ah the magnificence of lucidity. Thanks that was good.

[sentient being]

Ah, yet another sweeeeeet, sunny day. Cleansing going very well, now let the magnificent "sweet sentience" countdown begin!

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[particlepopup]

Ah, yet another sweeeeeet, sunny day. Cleansing going very well, now let the magnificent "sweet sentience" countdown begin!

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Been trying the affirmation of "am i dreaming?" for a couple of days as id really like to start becoming lucid again, i can see how it should all work and believe that it will, just a little story of synchronicity. I was driving along listening to a native american cd the day i read your post and felt that it was time for me to start lucid dreaming again, just as a confirmation i asked the father within/higher self for that confirmation in a sign of sorts, moments later i accidently caught the radio button on the steering wheel and just starting on the station was a song by judas priest, it was none other than "living after midnight" boy did i laugh, the majesty of syncronicity, stunning!:D

[sentient being]

Been trying the affirmation of "am i dreaming?" for a couple of days as id really like to start becoming lucid again, i can see how it should all work and believe that it will, just a little story of synchronicity. I was driving along listening to a native american cd the day i read your post and felt that it was time for me to start lucid dreaming again, just as a confirmation i asked the father within/higher self for that confirmation in a sign of sorts, moments later i accidently caught the radio button on the steering wheel and just starting on the station was a song by judas priest, it was none other than "living after midnight" boy did i laugh, the majesty of syncronicity, stunning!:D



Saweet. Keep at it. Since starting this thread and really going at the reality checks all day long, I've become lucid 2wice. Not the full blown excited lucidity that I love, but I know it will be next.

I also noticed it happend in the time period I totally came off the computer for about 4 days. So probably after the next few minutes, I'll be back at it. Actually, I'd like to stay powerful enough to just devote the whole of September to Lucid Dreaming, No Internet and Manifesting a certain something.

So I'm off, but post as soon as you get lucid and I know that will be any night now.

[sentient being]

Up.

[particlepopup]

Having some very close shaves just as im waking but nothing id call lucid i will keep go'in wit yed down!!

[passing]

Hi all,
I hope this isn't a derailing post.

This may not even count as related to lucid dreaming, but since there are some interested and informed people on this thread I invite thoughts about a dream I had a few years ago which still 'haunts' me (just as a spooky memory/mystery):

Basically, I fought off a bout of sleep paralysis (which I used to get quite regularly, just my arms being numb and heavy and feeling like someone else's arms) - I fought it off and jumped out of bed sweating. While smoking a cigarette to calm down I looked around and saw myself still lying in the bed. I don't know if I was in bed dreaming or 'sleepwalking' - or both!?!?!

I don't remember getting back in and going to sleep again - what a shame I didn't stay up til morning.

Anyway, the only writing I've come across relevant to this was in Castaneda, but it wasn't really relevant since that was about intentional dreaming.

Any thoughts anyone?
Thanks in advance.
Peace.

[particlepopup]

Hi all,
I hope this isn't a derailing post.

This may not even count as related to lucid dreaming, but since there are some interested and informed people on this thread I invite thoughts about a dream I had a few years ago which still 'haunts' me (just as a spooky memory/mystery):

Basically, I fought off a bout of sleep paralysis (which I used to get quite regularly, just my arms being numb and heavy and feeling like someone else's arms) - I fought it off and jumped out of bed sweating. While smoking a cigarette to calm down I looked around and saw myself still lying in the bed. I don't know if I was in bed dreaming or 'sleepwalking' - or both!?!?!

I don't remember getting back in and going to sleep again - what a shame I didn't stay up til morning.

Anyway, the only writing I've come across relevant to this was in Castaneda, but it wasn't really relevant since that was about intentional dreaming.

Any thoughts anyone?
Thanks in advance.
Peace.

Wow, sounds like an obe or astral projection, ive had many a sleep paralysis and it isnt nice but one time i decided to go with it and to my amazement after all the supressive feelings and whooshing noises i entered into a kaliedascopic tunnel full of geometry colour and emotion travelling at speed, at the pinnacle i gushed forth and became the solar system in full awareness and consciousness i moved around as atoms and particles viewing in panoramic 3d technicolour, having no fear is the key, its hard but you have trust that your higher self will take care of you, thats why you are experiencing it, bet you was shocked to see yourself, its bad enough for me looking in a mirror!!!:D. No fear.

[passing]

Thanks particlepopup,

Astral projection is not something I have investigated. I know about it only from reading The Invisibles... and perhaps also from reading Gurdjieff on the astral body. I'll research it more, thanks!

OBE = Out of Body Experience, yeah?
That fits, but: although I was outside the body-in-the-bed I was also in the body-in-the-room smoking a cigarette!

I have had one (other) experience of OBE, also while trying to get to sleep (and maybe it was the trying which caused both of these experiences?) - I felt my unconscious body sinking into and through the mattress and the floor, while my consciousness* (which still felt body-shaped but weightless or 'matterless') was apparently rising... it went on for a long time... I get vertigo, but all fear associated with that was attached to the body 'falling' and not the 'consciousness' rising.

[I had Autechre's 'Amber' on headphones at the time, which I recommend to anyone who wants a soundtrack for this kind of thing!]

You did help me to see that the act of will involved in fighting off sleep paralysis might have been the point of departure, which I find very interesting (and which rings true to me), but since both of these experiences were unintended they seem to mean no more than that these things (OBE and 'astral projection') are possible - which is great! Glimpses of higher states...

Thanks again,
Peace.

*for want of a better term

[mountain]

This is how I feel when I start lucid dreaming or astral traveling....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VbGV2_8Yqg4

[sentient being]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bZb_f3kCyOs



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PDgUTQYEIas

[mountain]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bZb_f3kCyOs



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PDgUTQYEIas

Yes I know about this stuff. Beyonce is definitely NOT on my favourite list and is possibly a Mkultra (poor soul), I just thought that video would be funny to post. :D

It would be nice to find a video that relates to my experiences though, it would have to have lots of flying and acrobatics to portray my experiences....3

[sentient being]

Yes I know about this stuff. Beyonce is definitely NOT on my favourite list and is possibly a Mkultra (poor soul), I just thought that video would be funny to post. :D

It would be nice to find a video that relates to my experiences though, it would have to have lots of flying and acrobatics to portray my experiences....3



It's okay. You seem like an extremely smart lady. Just describe your experiences to us. I'm sure there are a lot who would love to hear them, in order to decipher our own questions on that topic.

[nectars]

but as soon as you stop!!

wham!! obe's and lucid dreams even in 5 min kips on the couch

That is a fact.

[sentient being]

I geuss I've got a reputation to live up to. So heeeeere we go on a beautiful sun shiny yet somewhat chilly Friday evening. Up.

Oh lottery god, please let me win the lottery and go live in a warm country. Thanks a billion for all my fulfilled desires.:D

[particlepopup]

IT WORKS!!!! I was on top of a vw caravan being dragged along by a deluge and i said "yea but am i dreaming" and i went, Ahhh i am!!! Conciousness was immediate and so the episode began, i even tryed the spinning round thing as it was very dark and foreboding where i was and didnt like it, id say i was 85/90% concious aware so it wasnt one of the more full on ld's but it was enough for me to keep a concious control of and had about four different senarios before i woke up, so thank Mr.S. being for helping bring it back to me, and thank you all for input, keep going and make the connections cos it really is wonderous.:)

[whiterain]

so three times in the last week ive had near projections. the first time i gained lucidity in the local (dream) park and kept with it for a while. the 2nd time i was in a downstairs room in the house when i caught on. the last time i gained lucidity briefly when walking down the stairs and when that happens i fall and snap back with a jolt.

anyway it seems like i really am projecting from my body, and each time i gain consciousness closer and closer to the point i leave my body. perhaps soon there will be no gap between drifting off in meditation and gaining clear control of the dream i slip into

[passing]

Well, I'm getting more interested in this stuff.

I just lucked onto a 1927 book called 'The Projection of the Astral Body' by Muldoon & Carrington... It's surprising straight away, talking about the 'cord' which connects the 'phantom' to the physical body.

Here's a choice quote from the introduction:

"I say, and can prove it, that the nearer dead a person is, the easier it is to project"

:eek::D

[passing]

IT WORKS!!!!

Great!!!! Well done :)

[particlepopup]

Great!!!! Well done :)

Thanks, i read a book on astral projection years ago, i never quite managed it (in fact got nowhere near), although from one of my other posts, whilst in sleep paralysis mode was probably close, that was the most amazing experience ever. Lucid dreaming is great also i just need more on a regular basis then i can really start to explore.:)

[particlepopup]

"I say, and can prove it, that the nearer dead a person is, the easier it is to project"
Try jumping off a tall building and you should be able to project just as you hit the bottom lol:D

[passing]

"I say, and can prove it, that the nearer dead a person is, the easier it is to project"
Try jumping off a tall building and you should be able to project just as you hit the bottom lol:D

...or just after, for a few seconds :D

[e7304]

Tried something last week. Been having rough nights where I wake up about 3 am. Anyway I was determined this time to get back to sleep, but couldnt. So I was tossing and turning and it ws 4.30 and I suddenly decided to "remember" my dreams from when I first fell asleep. By suddenly doing this and not "forcing" it, I suddenly found my self back in this dream but being aware I was the dreamer. It was wierd. I have had lucid experiences before, but this was so easy.I went back into the dream and could control everything if I wanted, but I decided to "let things roll" and it was so gentle and non violent I couldnt believe it. I awoke about 20 minutes later and did the process all over again,and unbeliveably, I did it again!. Since then I have been truly tired by bedtime and have slept like the dead, so I havent tried it again.

This process, which I am going to try again, is like , in your mind a train is moving along the track and you want to get on. For a short time, as you run along side the train, you are concentarting on the train alone....noting and anticipating when you jump aboard. But it is your previous dream you are looking at and eventually you find yourself "on the train" so to speak, but totally aware of yourself and the fact that it is YOUR DREAM and therefore open to your will.

Cant explain it any clearer.I awoke about 1 hour later, feeling so refreshed and with the images so clear in my head. Went to work and felt great all day.

I think I am on to something.....not sure what it is yet:rolleyes:

[nightingale]

Anyone?
I've been having a problem with lucid dreaming lately. The last time I was having lucid dreams fairly often (usually by doing lots of reality checks during the day), I found myself getting stuck a lot. And waking up with sleep paralysis.

I'd be in a dream, become lucid and for whatever reason the dream ends-- but I do not fully wake up. I can somewhat feel myself laying in my bed, physically but I can't move or open my eyes and it just feels like my mind is some place else-- usually this is accompanied by a strange overwhelming feeling of being in a wind tunnel. With a very loud whooshing sound in my ears. Meanwhile I'd become more awake physically but it always took a while to be able to snap out of it and wake up fully, but even then I'd usually be paralyzed for about 20 seconds. A lot of times I'd feel a presence pushing me down, too and I'd scream at it in my head (it's strange because in my head I'd hear myself scream but it sounds like a muffled echo) which seemed to help-- but the loud whooshing sound would still be there until I could move my body.

Any thoughts..?

[bobbydiva]

Tried something last week. Been having rough nights where I wake up about 3 am. Anyway I was determined this time to get back to sleep, but couldnt. So I was tossing and turning and it ws 4.30 and I suddenly decided to "remember" my dreams from when I first fell asleep. By suddenly doing this and not "forcing" it, I suddenly found my self back in this dream but being aware I was the dreamer. It was wierd. I have had lucid experiences before, but this was so easy.I went back into the dream and could control everything if I wanted, but I decided to "let things roll" and it was so gentle and non violent I couldnt believe it. I awoke about 20 minutes later and did the process all over again,and unbeliveably, I did it again!. Since then I have been truly tired by bedtime and have slept like the dead, so I havent tried it again.

This process, which I am going to try again, is like , in your mind a train is moving along the track and you want to get on. For a short time, as you run along side the train, you are concentarting on the train alone....noting and anticipating when you jump aboard. But it is your previous dream you are looking at and eventually you find yourself "on the train" so to speak, but totally aware of yourself and the fact that it is YOUR DREAM and therefore open to your will.

Cant explain it any clearer.I awoke about 1 hour later, feeling so refreshed and with the images so clear in my head. Went to work and felt great all day.

I think I am on to something.....not sure what it is yet:rolleyes:

Yup this is my tactic. I generally lucid dream in the morning after waking up. I quickly roll over and remember my dream and zap back in to it but fully aware. Sometimes though if I focus too hard I cannot get back in. I feel the quicker you do it the better.

[chris]

Hey Sentient Being,


Also in society I noticed "lucid dreaming" is very much played down, while "Astral Travel, OBE's, Channelling, etc., are focused on quite a bit.

This is a very interesting point which I have never considered. Tarot card reading, astrology, automatic writing are talked about way more than lucid dreaming but it's lucidity which is obviously very powerful for all while the others are very subjective to the individual.

Lucid dreaming is only half of the story though, the other half is what you do while you are lucid. If you just find the nearest girl to bone then it's not going to do very much.

So far I've have found that using golden dawn type of qabalistic rituals the most powerful thing to do while lucid. If I goto the second sephirah (sometimes represented by the moon) I find that I am so fast up there that it's extremely difficult to create things without knocking it all down. However, if one was to learn how to create without destroying their creations in this sephirah, their mind would probably be one of the fastest in the world. At least the fastest I've seen in the world, there may be masters somewhere that are way faster. It would be relatively easy to learn how to control yourself on this plane if you were able to go there 30 minutes a night, however what is really holding people back is that I don't think there's a surefire way to get lucid.

Anyway, this magick expands to meditation. Although I think meditation is an extremely good tool, meditation in lucid dreaming is just so much more powerful and you are presented with symbolism to help you understand the meditation. The rituals for silence are so strong in lucid dreaming, when I do the action part of the ritual, I hear lots of voices of my subconscious in unison strictly hushing all other part so my subconscious with "SHHHHHHH!!!" and then utter silence for a short period. Then when they come back, I can repeat it again.

The power of lucid dreaming is incredible, if only you could learn to do it say at least 3 times a night for several minutes a piece.

Another thing you can do is test the religions...For instance, I have found that if you invoke the word "God" you get a slight reaction, if you invoke "Jesus" and "YHVH," you get a bigger but if you invoke "Osirus" you get an extremely powerful reaction. This is what leads me to my religions, they are based on power I receive from lucid dreaming, not arty fart superficial preferance.

[chris]

Ways I've found to get lucid:

1. Sleep in a hydrating position. This means to sleep to that your muscles aren't tense. If you have bad posture then you'll probably be more in the fetal position but with your back straight. This hydrates and delivers nutrients to your muscles and organs, if they are tense, they won't get nurished because the supply is cut off.

2. Get plenty of sleep and eat a diet easy on the central nervous system.

3. DON'T DAY DREAM! If you dream while your awake, you won't be awake while you dream.

I had a lucid dream not last night but the one before...I was dreaming as normal during this dream I was looking at a stone owl. An Owl I believe may be a trigger of mine to tell me that I'm dreaming...Anyway, I started to invoke Jesus by vibrating his name (I still was a little fuzzy and not 100% lucid), the owl didn't do anything, I then vibrated the name "Horus" and immediately, his eyes opened and he intoned the word with me. In the background I saw a vision of Horus fighting with Set, Horus was basically like neo, a human, not in his bird form and Seth was also a human. It was one of the greatest fighting scenes I've ever seen. I then felt a huge rush of energy filling me up through my body and it felt like I was about to spontaniously combust, that was when I woke up.

[sentient being]

Ways I've found to get lucid:

1. Sleep in a hydrating position. This means to sleep to that your muscles aren't tense. If you have bad posture then you'll probably be more in the fetal position but with your back straight. This hydrates and delivers nutrients to your muscles and organs, if they are tense, they won't get nurished because the supply is cut off.

2. Get plenty of sleep and eat a diet easy on the central nervous system.

3. DON'T DAY DREAM! If you dream while your awake, you won't be awake while you dream.

I had a lucid dream not last night but the one before...I was dreaming as normal during this dream I was looking at a stone owl. An Owl I believe may be a trigger of mine to tell me that I'm dreaming...Anyway, I started to invoke Jesus by vibrating his name (I still was a little fuzzy and not 100% lucid), the owl didn't do anything, I then vibrated the name "Horus" and immediately, his eyes opened and he intoned the word with me. In the background I saw a vision of Horus fighting with Set, Horus was basically like neo, a human, not in his bird form and Seth was also a human. It was one of the greatest fighting scenes I've ever seen. I then felt a huge rush of energy filling me up through my body and it felt like I was about to spontaniously combust, that was when I woke up.


Wow, interesting to say the least. I especially liked point 2. Thanks for sharing.

[sentient being]

Hey Sentient Being,



This is a very interesting point which I have never considered. Tarot card reading, astrology, automatic writing are talked about way more than lucid dreaming but it's lucidity which is obviously very powerful for all while the others are very subjective to the individual.

Lucid dreaming is only half of the story though, the other half is what you do while you are lucid. If you just find the nearest girl to bone then it's not going to do very much.

So far I've have found that using golden dawn type of qabalistic rituals the most powerful thing to do while lucid. If I goto the second sephirah (sometimes represented by the moon) I find that I am so fast up there that it's extremely difficult to create things without knocking it all down. However, if one was to learn how to create without destroying their creations in this sephirah, their mind would probably be one of the fastest in the world. At least the fastest I've seen in the world, there may be masters somewhere that are way faster. It would be relatively easy to learn how to control yourself on this plane if you were able to go there 30 minutes a night, however what is really holding people back is that I don't think there's a surefire way to get lucid.

Anyway, this magick expands to meditation. Although I think meditation is an extremely good tool, meditation in lucid dreaming is just so much more powerful and you are presented with symbolism to help you understand the meditation. The rituals for silence are so strong in lucid dreaming, when I do the action part of the ritual, I hear lots of voices of my subconscious in unison strictly hushing all other part so my subconscious with "SHHHHHHH!!!" and then utter silence for a short period. Then when they come back, I can repeat it again.

The power of lucid dreaming is incredible, if only you could learn to do it say at least 3 times a night for several minutes a piece.

Another thing you can do is test the religions...For instance, I have found that if you invoke the word "God" you get a slight reaction, if you invoke "Jesus" and "YHVH," you get a bigger but if you invoke "Osirus" you get an extremely powerful reaction. This is what leads me to my religions, they are based on power I receive from lucid dreaming, not arty fart superficial preferance.


Most interesting. Could the Osirus programming be very strong in You? You know, because you've been reading alot about it? Is lucid dreaming access to the realm of the subconscious/feelings, which is malleable for us? Is this why, like with even conspiracy theories, the Astral plane is an avenue to take us away and waste our time? Should we not be mastering lucid dreaming to clean up/purify/make over our lives? What good would it be to skip this level and go of on a fantasy to the so called "Astral Plane" and so called "entities"? Is maybe the Astral Plane, the playground of the ego/painbody/2nd mind/waking reality? It seems that we are the closest to our real selves in the lucid realm. Also, with so many of us having ld's, I find the most intriguing thing would be to bring something back from the lucid world. As in. Get lucid. See an object or something you require, feel it with all the lucid energy (thereby making it a part of you) and then see it show up in your waking reality.

Hey. The race is on. Whose going to be the first to do this? Let's do it.

[sentient being]

Anyone?


All I can say, is that I do recall myself having an experience like this. I'm not sure, if this can be attributed to the ego self battling to keep us from being lucid/magnificently awake. After all the ego/pain body is a part that desires control too.

So don't dig. Keep doing what you've been doing, your lucidity and control will get much better.

[sentient being]

IT WORKS!!!! I was on top of a vw caravan being dragged along by a deluge and i said "yea but am i dreaming" and i went, Ahhh i am!!! Conciousness was immediate and so the episode began, i even tryed the spinning round thing as it was very dark and foreboding where i was and didnt like it, id say i was 85/90% concious aware so it wasnt one of the more full on ld's but it was enough for me to keep a concious control of and had about four different senarios before i woke up, so thank Mr.S. being for helping bring it back to me, and thank you all for input, keep going and make the connections cos it really is wonderous.:)



Ain't it? Yeah, I'm happy for your experience. You're welcome. Remember though, it was somewhere in YOU that longed to bring it back and you did whatever was necessary to get lucid. So remember how powerful you are and that everything is in YOU.

Were you doing a lot of RC's before this episode? Keep going and next time, remember how powerful you are and that foreboding feeling is an emotion in you. Stay lucid long enough to face it and love/heal it.

Eager to hear more.

[sentient being]

hi k your right yeah ive had that feeling of being completely weightless like i was just part of the scenery floating along for as long as i wanted, but only with lsd so far




so last night i was having this fcking ridiculous dream and it got to this point where i was given a present and the emotion of it completely overwhelmed me and i was absolutely exstatic that someone gave me this gift. when id stopped weeping with joy i lay back and started to melt ino the surroundings exactly like the beggining of a salvia trip which freaked me out and i resisted and shook it off.

anyone had similar? as soon as anything like this happens these days it just terrifies me for some pathetic reason and i fight it.

any tricks for not being such a wimp when it comes to such experiences. i just wish this fear would leave me, but it seems to stick to me like superglue


You're not a wimp. You didn't wimp out in this dream. Again perhaps that part that wants to maintain control made you resit. Had you have gone with the blissful flow of the healing that takes place after the shedding of tears or suppressed emotions, perhaps that would have been part of you becoming fully whole. After all, it was with joy that you lay back and started to melt into the surroundings. Was the joy melting/flowing into other parts of you, and ego/whatever desiring to maintain control resisted?


Perhaps.

[sentient being]

hi sentient b. i would suggest form limited knowledge that everything is some kind of astral realm. nothing to fear unless you are afraid. stupid paradoxes.


Indeed, however, at this crucial time and with all that we are fortunate enough to have gleaned. I think. Maybe. It would be wise of us to whittle it down to at least one realm for the time being. Master it, in order to really figure out the next realm, as opposed to mediocrity in several realms.

[chris]

Most interesting. Could the Osirus programming be very strong in You? You know, because you've been reading alot about it? Is lucid dreaming access to the realm of the subconscious/feelings, which is malleable for us? Is this why, like with even conspiracy theories, the Astral plane is an avenue to take us away and waste our time? Should we not be mastering lucid dreaming to clean up/purify/make over our lives? What good would it be to skip this level and go of on a fantasy to the so called "Astral Plane" and so called "entities"? Is maybe the Astral Plane, the playground of the ego/painbody/2nd mind/waking reality? It seems that we are the closest to our real selves in the lucid realm. Also, with so many of us having ld's, I find the most intriguing thing would be to bring something back from the lucid world. As in. Get lucid. See an object or something you require, feel it with all the lucid energy (thereby making it a part of you) and then see it show up in your waking reality.

Hey. The race is on. Whose going to be the first to do this? Let's do it.

I think the egyptians really knew what they were doing spiritually, this is why their dieties are so powerful.

Regarding the astral plane. I think this is the next step from lucid dreaming but you need to master lucidity first. There are two different types of lucidity, the first is where you wake up while you dream - "dream-initiated lucid dream (DILD)" and the second is when you are awake and you initiate the lucid dream - "Wake-initiated lucid dream (WILD)." I think when you can initiate the WILD type of lucidity at will, you will have mastered lucidity and from there you could decide to do the astral part or not.

I've found astral projection very difficult unless you have the right planetary alignment. One of the major goals of alchemy was to create the astral body, yet people today which are relatively non-spiritual believe their astral bodies are capable of astral projection easily, just because they did it when the planets were lined up right. I've tried to astral project while the planets were wrongly aligned and my body felt extremely weak and heavy.

So the old way which the ancients did it was to master lucidity then master the astral plane (inside or outside the body) and then integrate the astral/lucid dreaming into your waking life until you've mastered this dream world.

[sentient being]

[QUOTE=chris;1284538]I think the egyptians really knew what they were doing spiritually, this is why their dieties are so powerful.QUOTE]


I certainly understand what you're trying to say. However, I don't think their dieties were so powerful. After all they never conquered death/meshing spirit and matter.

Their power lay and still lies in deceit and bondage of all sorts. Anyone can be powerful behind the sword or gun. Ah but to have that sword or bullet pass right through you, without being affected. Now that's POWER.

[sentient being]

What we just experiened was how the ego/evil can use lucidity to perpetuate horror. It is the ego/evil that we are battling as we seek to get lucid in order to bring about healing/cleansing/beauty/pertuation of good.

It endeavours ceaselessly to keep us from lucidity, our golden opportunity to connect with our wholeness and total individual control. Nevertheless, we perservere with quiet inner strength and power, forever remembering how truly magnificent and self sufficient we are and that we will always triumph.


Let's crank it up and wash the previous muck off. Tonite we get lucid then we remain forever lucid.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W1rp_CvWAYc

[chris]

I think the egyptians really knew what they were doing spiritually, this is why their dieties are so powerful.


I certainly understand what you're trying to say. However, I don't think their dieties were so powerful. After all they never conquered death/meshing spirit and matter.

Their power lay and still lies in deceit and bondage of all sorts. Anyone can be powerful behind the sword or gun.

I'm not talking about the egyptian people, I'm talking about their dieties they worshipped which I think are a lot older than ancient egypt.

The proof is when happens when you invoke them. Next time you are lucid, try invoking one of them and see if the energy is good or not that is a lot better than speculation about getting their power from 'bondage and deceit.'


Ah but to have that sword or bullet pass right through you, without being affected. Now that's POWER.

Yeah but that's just something out of a movie...I'm talking about reality, if you can suggest a more powerful group of dieties to invoke while lucid dreaming, please suggest them to me so I can try.

[sentient being]

I'm not talking about the egyptian people, I'm talking about their dieties they worshipped which I think are a lot older than ancient egypt.


Well from what I can glean. The so called "deities" were nothing more than each other of their incestuous clan and again sun worship. I thought we were both referring to the so called power they weilded. Well now we know, there was no real power except that through the servitude of the people/populace/masses, through their labouring and worship of this incestuous clan, out of fear, hence deceit and bondage. That is of course until we know for certain that there were indeed real so called "deities".

If they were real and had any amount of supernatural powers per se, they'd more than likely be visible and wreaking a lot more havoc on a grander scale today, not slowly plodding along, using mankind to reach their hermaphroditic, borg agenda. Of course this is only from my critical thinking.


The proof is when happens when you invoke them. Next time you are lucid, try invoking one of them and see if the energy is good or not that is a lot better than speculation about getting their power from 'bondage and deceit.'


Well I also know that with or without invocation, you can feel some pretty good or not vibes when lucid, as you're dealing primarily with the subconscious which is the storehouse of our emotions. What a snake, shoe, devil, or whatever, means , differs within each dreamer.

I would venture to say it is not speculation that I am dealing with, but with the recordings of their deceitful, bondage filled track record. Which I think is pretty much out in the open now. So an energy/being/whatever with that kind of reputation is not something I have any respect for and wish to call up in my lucid dreams. I already have to deal with their debauchery in my waking world. Though I respect your admiration of it.


Yeah but that's just something out of a movie...I'm talking about reality, if you can suggest a more powerful group of dieties to invoke while lucid dreaming, please suggest them to me so I can try.


It may very well be out of a movie, however, it's a shadow of a real desire to escape the bondage evil/pain/ego/whatever and triumph over the wickedness of pain and suffering that exsists on this planet. And indeed this is the reality we are dealing/living in/ with and trying to rectify at the moment.

The only more powerful group of deities that I can suggest, would be the individual self once awakened to see how it's magnificent majestic energy/power is being used/manipulated to fuel this incestuous lot's perverse desires. The most powerful deities, would be collective mankind fully awake to the reality of our omnipotence.

The truest victory will be the overcoming of this pain/death program that they have created/that exsists. Of course this is all just my guesstimation.

[sentient being]

Up on another magnificent day here in the sunshine. Haven't been paying attention to doing RC's lately, but will with a vengence starting today. Come on don't I want to be the first to create something tangible in the Lucid realm?

[carlo]

There is nothing unique in the site you just went to, they all say the same thing. You stopped at one site and that was it? Look around

By far the best description of Lucid Dreaming, I've ever read.

Good luck everyone.


http://holosla.com/2009/04/01/lucid-dreaming-for-changing-your-life/




LUCID DREAMING FOR CHANGING YOUR LIFE




Lucid Dreaming is a powerful skill for making changes in yourself and your life. Also known as conscious dreaming, a lucid dream is one in which you are aware you are dreaming. Your body is asleep but your mind is awake and aware. When you are in the lucid dream state, you can actively participate in and manipulate the dream.

The benefits of lucid dreaming are many. As you develop the ability to lucid dream the quality of your sleep will be better. It will be deeper and more restful, and as a result, you will require less sleep overall. One reason is that material that has gone unprocessed from your day or from the past gets worked out in the dreamtime. In the lucid dream state you will gain access to your subconscious mind and be able to work with the material presented to you in a conscious way. You can resolve personal issues and generate solutions to life situations rapidly and with deep effects because you are already working at the level of the subconscious mind where real change occurs.

In addition, you will find that lucid dreaming enhances your intuitive and psychic abilities. The conscious mind uses language as its main means for communicating. The subconscious mind uses the language of symbolic imagery. By practicing being aware in the dream state you develop the ability to be able to read these symbolic messages. Over time, the experience of flashes of insight increases in the waking state along with a greater understanding of these insights because the practice has created a clearer line of communication between your conscious and subconscious mind. As a result, you will function more optimally with intuitive flashes and insights becoming much more a part of your daily life.

To begin lucid dreaming, the first thing is to start remembering your dreams. This is done by keeping a dream journal. Buy a notebook and a pen to keep a record of your dreams and place it by your bed at night. Before you go to sleep, take a minute, and repeat a clear and strong statement of intention to yourself several times, “I will remember at least two dreams by the time I wake up.” This statement of intention is the first communication with your subconscious mind to set up the agreement that you are ready to begin remembering your dreams. As you drift off to sleep, trust that when you awaken you will remember your dreams in the morning.

When you wake up, stay in bed for a few minutes in the dreamy drowsy state known as the hypnogogic state, and with your eyes still closed, try and recall anything you can from the night before. Anything. Whatever it is, even if it is a vague recollection, write it down. If you don’t remember anything that’s fine. Simply, continue the process and you will find that each morning you will remember more. If you remember something during the course of the day make a notation and include it in your dream journal when you get home. When you record your dreams, refrain from analyzing them as you write them down. Just write down whatever comes to you and as much as you can remember. By the end of a few weeks you will be recalling a great deal of dream material.

The second step is done during waking hours. Go through your dream journal and find some event or imagery that repeats itself. Make sure it’s also something that happens to you in your waking life. Pick one of the repeated elements of your dream and whenever you experience that same thing in your waking life, stop and ask yourself, “Am I dreaming?”

For example, if you see your hands in your dreams then throughout the course of your day look at your hands and ask yourself the question, “Am I dreaming?” As another example, if you find that you walk through doorways in your dreams then whenever you walk through a doorway in your waking life touch the door jamb and ask, “Am I dreaming?” This sets up an anchor for remembering. At some point, you will have a dream and, as you see your hands or walk through a doorway or whatever it is you choose to remember, you will reflexively ask the question, “Am I dreaming?” This time the answer will be ‘yes’, and, chances are, that you will find yourself suddenly awake inside the dream!

When you are awake inside the dream you can begin to watch the dream unfold. As you remain in the lucid state you can begin to change and manipulate the dream in different ways. In the beginning, you will be awake and watching the dream like a movie, but over time you will find that you possess greater and greater ability to control the dream and the way it unfolds. Eventually, you will be able to choose what you want to dream and can even begin dreaming about events of the day or of your past where you can change the outcome in ways that serve your highest fulfillment. Changing these events from your day or your past to outcomes that you desire will have a positive effect on your psyche, sense of well-being and self-mastery. You will be reprogramming your subconscious mind to accept the best possible solution or response to an issue or situation and it will make the appropriate changes in your subconscious. You will find that it has a dramatic effect on your waking life, as well. As you become very good at lucid dreaming you can even take future events into the dreamtime and work with them so the outcomes manifest in the way you desire!

Have fun, practice well, and we’ll see you in the dreamtime!

[sentient being]

There is nothing unique in the site you just went to, they all say the same thing. You stopped at one site and that was it? Look around



Well, if you noticed, I never said anything about the site being unique. Indeed they all do say the same thing. However, my statement was:

"By far the best description of Lucid Dreaming, I've ever read."

Hopefully meaning out of all the many I've looked around at, this one is by far the best description. Why? Short, sweet and to the point. So whatever makes you think think I've just looked at one site? Yours/anyone's guess is as good as mine.;)

[sentient being]

IT WORKS!!!! I was on top of a vw caravan being dragged along by a deluge and i said "yea but am i dreaming" and i went, Ahhh i am!!! Conciousness was immediate and so the episode began, i even tryed the spinning round thing as it was very dark and foreboding where i was and didnt like it, id say i was 85/90% concious aware so it wasnt one of the more full on ld's but it was enough for me to keep a concious control of and had about four different senarios before i woke up, so thank Mr.S. being for helping bring it back to me, and thank you all for input, keep going and make the connections cos it really is wonderous.:)



Oh and by the way. Why Mr.? Maybe, just maybe?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jdHBXunvoJA&feature=PlayList&p=5D357B34F54807C3&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=12

[particlepopup]

There is nothing unique in the site you just went to, they all say the same thing. You stopped at one site and that was it? Look around

Sounds like a spot of lucid envy!!;) Havnt been on the RC's proper for a week or so, im trying a different tack, im tryin to manifest without trying to manifest(if you know what i mean),the RC's worked no doubt, but by relinquishing control to the universal mind and allowing what will be, to be, then maybe i can enhance multiple areas of my life be they happiness(even tho im very happy)/synchronicity/self realization/higher awareness/dreaming/altered states or whatever , cos if its going to happen then it will happen as everything serves a purpose in the end. We seek for truth but really truth finds us.:)

[particlepopup]

Oh and by the way. Why Mr.? Maybe, just maybe?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jdHBXunvoJA&feature=PlayList&p=5D357B34F54807C3&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=12

I remember her wasnt she one of the mighty prince protege's, i love this sound.
P.s. i was thinking the day i wrote Mr.s. Being what if you arent a Mr, i was very presumptious so my sincere apologies if you are a Miss/Mrs/Ms.:)

[carlo]

You are just mincing words! Your kind are always the same, when you're wrong.

Well, if you noticed, I never said anything about the site being unique. Indeed they all do say the same thing. However, my statement was:

"By far the best description of Lucid Dreaming, I've ever read."

Hopefully meaning out of all the many I've looked around at, this one is by far the best description. Why? Short, sweet and to the point. So whatever makes you think think I've just looked at one site? Yours/anyone's guess is as good as mine.;)

[mountain]

It's okay. You seem like an extremely smart lady. Just describe your experiences to us. I'm sure there are a lot who would love to hear them, in order to decipher our own questions on that topic.

Sure. :)

Well most of my experiences were laced with something symbolic, important messages were given to me by strangers, some claiming to be alien.

As far as what happens in the astral, things that I enjoy doing most is flying at high speeds like Neo-style or more relaxed, in which I move around more like a fairy so that I can savor the landscapes as I soar.

Sometimes I talk with strangers and we exchange significant info, sometimes I have to evade assassins too but don't let that scare you or discourage you from practising this because you are literally immortal, well in my case it seems that way.

There are way too many things to get into with this subject because in my experience, the dream realm is much more intricate and complicated, richer in landscapes, fast and slow all at once and much more realistic than this realm because your senses are heightened.

[particlepopup]

And another this very morning, whilst in dream state i was in a wharehouse full of steel bars and cylinders and also a white mgb with the reg "one" at which point i asked "yea but am i dreaming" low and behold conciousness, i started tumbling down a shaft so i closed my eyes and spun around and was back in the wharehouse but it was empty, i stayed with this landscape and walked around, touching and taking in this experience, i came to an entrance where a pretty woman with flaxen hair looked at me in a welcoming way(not in a enticing way) at which point i awoke in awe, maybe she has a message for me, i keep you all posted:)

[sentient being]

And another this very morning, whilst in dream state i was in a wharehouse full of steel bars and cylinders and also a white mgb with the reg "one" at which point i asked "yea but am i dreaming" low and behold conciousness, i started tumbling down a shaft so i closed my eyes and spun around and was back in the wharehouse but it was empty, i stayed with this landscape and walked around, touching and taking in this experience, i came to an entrance where a pretty woman with flaxen hair looked at me in a welcoming way(not in a enticing way) at which point i awoke in awe, maybe she has a message for me, i keep you all posted:)


So proud of you. Tried to throw you off balance by going down the chute. But you remained powerful and got back in. Yes, keep it up. Try to ask your dream characters some questions this time! Looking forward.

[sentient being]

I remember her wasnt she one of the mighty prince protege's, i love this sound.
P.s. i was thinking the day i wrote Mr.s. Being what if you arent a Mr, i was very presumptious so my sincere apologies if you are a Miss/Mrs/Ms.:)



Yes it is a great sound. Indeed music can be used very effectively. I can hear Lenon Honor now. "Under the Inlufluence"? "Influence of What"? etc., So right he is, glad I can see it now. However, I love to use Vanity's pic.

As for apologies, don't bother. Your participation has brought me nothing but pure joy.:)

[sentient being]

Sure. :)

Well most of my experiences were laced with something symbolic, important messages were given to me by strangers, some claiming to be alien.

As far as what happens in the astral, things that I enjoy doing most is flying at high speeds like Neo-style or more relaxed, in which I move around more like a fairy so that I can savor the landscapes as I soar.

Sometimes I talk with strangers and we exchange significant info, sometimes I have to evade assassins too but don't let that scare you or discourage you from practising this because you are literally immortal, well in my case it seems that way.

There are way too many things to get into with this subject because in my experience, the dream realm is much more intricate and complicated, richer in landscapes, fast and slow all at once and much more realistic than this realm because your senses are heightened.

You say important messages. Did they benefit you greatly and change/improve you life? Any benefits to anyone else. How? Isn't flying what we do while lucid? From what you describe, the Astral plane seems to be no different from the Lucid realm. I find that when I have a great lucid experience, it enhances my waking reality greatly. Making waking become crisp, beautiful and heightening my senses while awake. Do you materialize things and change the lanscape of your dreams/emotional body?

I appreciate so much your sharing, but I am yet to understnad what the difference is between the lucid realm and the so called astral realm is. As all the things that you're doing while "Astral" travelling are achievable while lucid dreaming.

Thanks, I look foward to more info.

[mountain]

You say important messages. Did they benefit you greatly and change/improve you life? Any benefits to anyone else. How? Isn't flying what we do while lucid? From what you describe, the Astral plane seems to be no different from the Lucid realm. I find that when I have a great lucid experience, it enhances my waking reality greatly. Making waking become crisp, beautiful and heightening my senses while awake. Do you materialize things and change the lanscape of your dreams/emotional body?

I appreciate so much your sharing, but I am yet to understnad what the difference is between the lucid realm and the so called astral realm is. As all the things that you're doing while "Astral" travelling are achievable while lucid dreaming.

Thanks, I look foward to more info.

Its no problem and you're much welcome :)

As far as the messages, some have answered questions, personal ones I have had within my own mind, some still leave me guessing.

When it comes to creating objects, yes I have done that but it doesn't interests me much but it has benefited me a few times. Like once I wanted something, a special book and the old lady merchant charged me alot of money which I instantly materialized in my palm to pay for it.

Also, I can change my appearance and my attire just by thought too and I will confirm the desired effect in a reflection.

Oh and yes I do associate both lucid dreams and astral traveling as the same with a few minor differences.

[sentient being]

Its no problem and you're much welcome :)

As far as the messages, some have answered questions, personal ones I have had within my own mind, some still leave me guessing.

When it comes to creating objects, yes I have done that but it doesn't interests me much but it has benefited me a few times. Like once I wanted something, a special book and the old lady merchant charged me alot of money which I instantly materialized in my palm to pay for it.

Also, I can change my appearance and my attire just by thought too and I will confirm the desired effect in a reflection.

Oh and yes I do associate both lucid dreams and astral traveling as the same with a few minor differences.


Thanks mountain. I geuss what I'm getting at, is materializing items not only that benefit you while dreaming, but that show up in your waking reality. Also I thought as much, that the "Lucid" and "Astral" is the same realm. Though I am curious as to why two name labels. Again, my hunch is that "Astral" and "Entities" is somehow to muddy the beautiful lucid waters, so to speak.

Looking foward to a billion and one lucid dreams. Ciao for now.

[kblood]

Lucid dreams I think is just dreams where you are consciously interfering. Astral is when there are other beings interfering as well, so the difference might be hard to tell.

Btw. found an article about lucid dreaming and other kinds of sleep... stuff... :)

http://www.cracked.com/article/127_5-ways-to-hack-your-brain-into-awesomeness/

[particlepopup]

Lucid dreams I think is just dreams where you are consciously interfering. Astral is when there are other beings interfering as well, so the difference might be hard to tell.

Btw. found an article about lucid dreaming and other kinds of sleep... stuff... :)

http://www.cracked.com/article/127_5-ways-to-hack-your-brain-into-awesomeness/

Well seeing as the mind floats within the higher ethric fields and has nothing to do with your brain, there wont be of a much difference:)

[sentient being]

Well seeing as the mind floats within the higher ethric fields and has nothing to do with your brain, there wont be of a much difference:)


Good Info. Indeed it's likely best to stay away from what can be seen, perhaps, as part of the covert agenda of the borg - Brain entrainment.

[kblood]

Well seeing as the mind floats within the higher ethric fields and has nothing to do with your brain, there wont be of a much difference:)

Ahh, didnt understand your comment untill I remembered the article. All of cracked.com is satire basicly. Taking something then joking about it. If you read the article it ought to be obvious.

Still interesting they have some points about lucid dreaming and on how to do it.

[particlepopup]

Ahh, didnt understand your comment untill I remembered the article. All of cracked.com is satire basicly. Taking something then joking about it. If you read the article it ought to be obvious.

Still interesting they have some points about lucid dreaming and on how to do it.

Just read it and it was quite funny, liked the one with the ping pong balls, might try it on mi mum, tell her its feung shui for relaxing lol:rolleyes:

[kblood]

Just read it and it was quite funny, liked the one with the ping pong balls, might try it on mi mum, tell her its feung shui for relaxing lol:rolleyes:

Yup, that one sounds far out :) One or two in the comments tried that one, and they did see weird stuff.

[sentient being]

Almost got lucid last night. The dream was so frighteningly grand, big, huge, fear got the better of me. But I do feel lucidity coming on strong as I've been off the net for a few days and going gang busters on the Reality Checks. Will post a grand lucid dream, soon.

[particlepopup]

Almost got lucid last night. The dream was so frighteningly grand, big, huge, fear got the better of me. But I do feel lucidity coming on strong as I've been off the net for a few days and going gang busters on the Reality Checks. Will post a grand lucid dream, soon.

looking forward to it, no ld's but plenty of weird and wonderful vivid dreams for me:)

[1971]

My dream was very sad last night.
There had been some disaster. either a nuclear bomb or something like that and ash was falling everywhere, so I went to my childhood libary to get a copy of the bible, the que was long but I thought to myself were all going to die anyway and went without clocking out my book.
Then I was trying to find my way to my nans house.
I feel sad today because of it but I was upbeat and wasn't scared.

[sentient being]

My dream was very sad last night.
There had been some disaster. either a nuclear bomb or something like that and ash was falling everywhere, so I went to my childhood libary to get a copy of the bible, the que was long but I thought to myself were all going to die anyway and went without clocking out my book.
Then I was trying to find my way to my nans house.
I feel sad today because of it but I was upbeat and wasn't scared.


Be careful my love. This internet is a an extremely powerful tool to get data/info/ideas etc., instantly into your subconscious. You as with many of us, are getting sucked into The Borg Agenda/Mass Consciousness through this avenue. They don't call it the inter NET and world wide WEB for nothing. They are telling you the truth in plain view.

You should consider easing up your time spent on it. Disaster, nuclear bombs , bibles etc., are all things you're subconscious is absorbing from this place. It is imperative once we know of the agenda and the ways they are using your consciouness to create their wickedness, that you extricate yourself and get back to using your consciousness to create joy not sad feelings in your life.

Again, the creative muscle which is critical thinking is not being used here. We're just looking and absorbing info.

What good can dwelling on conspiracies do for anyone? It's just one piece of the puzzle of the mystery we call life. Conspiracy theories have been around for 60 and more years and what good did it do for the likes of William Cooper? Just got him snuffed out and left the sadness and misery of lonliness for his wife and child to experience.

If ya catch ma drift, this place just answers questions, then it's time for you to close off and go use your creative ability to live life fully and stop contributing to their evil. See: The Borg Agenda, master Lucid dreaming and Lucid living in order to be a living example that, resistance to the Borg Agenda is absoloutely necessary and achievable for the continuation of life kind on this planet.

Places like this forum are just a pit stop in your exit from the maze of this ridiculous matrix.



I myself feel like I've contribued enough for the time being and will be making my exit today. After all, life is so much better without a computer and as I've stayed focused on what I'm creating or manifesting, I'm seeing tangible results rapidly every day. So it is with joyful anticipation I look forward to total resisitance to The Borg Ageda/being a part of mass consciousness.

All the best.

[sentient being]

Bump

[whiterain]

hi sb. sorry to post this in 2 places but this place is too fragmented

wow so last night i got pretty stoned for the first time in a while. normally this prevents my recall of all the dreams i have but last night was different. i got really lucid, enough to literally just stand and watch the elements of the dream as i stood on a massive tower. as i stood and meditated in the dream i think i had a brief projection into some other place (it was almost like i popped out, but just thought i had woken up so tried to get back into the dream, when perhaps i was still in it in an even more real way than i ever have been). i definately remember being in my room, but i imagine being in the real time zone can be very similar to being barely awake in reality. i faded out of the dream but was still very aware of it. it felt like i could open my astral eyes again to reenter the dream which i did for a while before losing it eventually. the feeling of opening the 2nd eyes is a very familiar one but one i have never managed to master apart from brief semi conscious dream pic flashes while meditating.

what an amazing herb and an amazing world eh. anyone have any tips on getting the hang of the eyes thing? it seems to be the only area i ever have any progress in so will try and stick with it for a while

[logan 5]

Robert Moss's books talk about this topic in detail. He calls lucid dreaming, conscious dreaming and has a book by that title " Conscious Dreaming ".

The first step in doing this he says is the ability to remember the dream. Just before I go to sleep, I tell myself that I want to remember, I want to remember. It took a few weeks for me to do this. Also he says you want the dream coming to you "raw". In others words, don't try to alter the dream or control the dream as the dream is coming to you from the "dreamsource", or what you would call an intelliegent being i.e God if you will.

There are many other methods in the book about shamanic dreaming and other stuff that's cool. Check out:

http://www.mossdreams.com/

[sentient being]

hi sb. sorry to post this in 2 places but this place is too fragmented

wow so last night i got pretty stoned for the first time in a while. normally this prevents my recall of all the dreams i have but last night was different. i got really lucid, enough to literally just stand and watch the elements of the dream as i stood on a massive tower. as i stood and meditated in the dream i think i had a brief projection into some other place (it was almost like i popped out, but just thought i had woken up so tried to get back into the dream, when perhaps i was still in it in an even more real way than i ever have been). i definately remember being in my room, but i imagine being in the real time zone can be very similar to being barely awake in reality. i faded out of the dream but was still very aware of it. it felt like i could open my astral eyes again to reenter the dream which i did for a while before losing it eventually. the feeling of opening the 2nd eyes is a very familiar one but one i have never managed to master apart from brief semi conscious dream pic flashes while meditating.


what an amazing herb and an amazing world eh. anyone have any tips on getting the hang of the eyes thing? it seems to be the only area i ever have any progress in so will try and stick with it for a while



Don't be sorry at all. Amazing indeed. Thanks for sharing. Don't know about the astral eyes thing, but I look foward to hearing more of your progress.

[sentient being]

Robert Moss's books talk about this topic in detail. He calls lucid dreaming, conscious dreaming and has a book by that title " Conscious Dreaming ".

The first step in doing this he says is the ability to remember the dream. Just before I go to sleep, I tell myself that I want to remember, I want to remember. It took a few weeks for me to do this. Also he says you want the dream coming to you "raw". In others words, don't try to alter the dream or control the dream as the dream is coming to you from the "dreamsource", or what you would call an intelliegent being i.e God if you will.

There are many other methods in the book about shamanic dreaming and other stuff that's cool. Check out:

http://www.mossdreams.com/



Thanks for posting. I especially like:

"Only dreams, coincidence and your imagination required.

[passing]

"You are using your astral body even now; it is tuned down, we might say, to harmonize with the vibrations common to material substance. Now there are factors which hold it down, and there are factors which tune it up. The powers which can be exerted to disharmonize the attunement are the powers which will cause the astral to move out of the physical."

- - - from 'The Projection of the Astral Body' by Muldoon&Carrington

...it's a very interesting book so far, shall I keep putting the odd quote on here?
Cheers :)

[sentient being]

"You are using your astral body even now; it is tuned down, we might say, to harmonize with the vibrations common to material substance. Now there are factors which hold it down, and there are factors which tune it up. The powers which can be exerted to disharmonize the attunement are the powers which will cause the astral to move out of the physical."

- - - from 'The Projection of the Astral Body' by Muldoon&Carrington

...it's a very interesting book so far, shall I keep putting the odd quote on here?
Cheers :)



Of course you should. Thanks.:)

[sentient being]

Hope everyone is also practicing lucid living. I've been and when I do, it's amazing how things are showing up in my life. Won't be on line too long, as conciously creating is amazing and quick. Just a word of encouragement to delve into LL also. I'm looking forward to posting an interesting lucid dream soon.

[passing]

Well well well...
I've gone from mildly curious to believer (in the astral body and its projection) in one easy stage.
I'm serious... I haven't even begun to accept the massive implications of this.
The Muldoon book describes my first, unintended experience almost exactly, although I did not see the 'cord' joining the two bodies. Apart from that, it's so close that I wouldn't be surprised if you were to think I'd read this book first and then made up a story to prove it later!
There's no point me banging on here about my experience of years ago. I just wanted to say right now that I'm convinced this aspect of life is true.
Sheez, I might as well say LOL for the first time as well! :D



...soon to read about how to project on purpose!

[sentient being]

Well well well...
I've gone from mildly curious to believer (in the astral body and its projection) in one easy stage.
I'm serious... I haven't even begun to accept the massive implications of this.
The Muldoon book describes my first, unintended experience almost exactly, although I did not see the 'cord' joining the two bodies. Apart from that, it's so close that I wouldn't be surprised if you were to think I'd read this book first and then made up a story to prove it later!
There's no point me banging on here about my experience of years ago. I just wanted to say right now that I'm convinced this aspect of life is true.
Sheez, I might as well say LOL for the first time as well! :D



...soon to read about how to project on purpose!




I read these interesting posts on this thread:

The Elite and Satanism/Luciferianism? Why? http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=85405&page=2




Quote:
Originally Posted by marpat

heaven and hell could exist in some form on the astral, built by centuries of people imagining that such a place exists. If you mind is connected to those ideas then you can be snared by them.




Yep ... that is what they use against you is your subconscious mind and
what has been built into it over your lifetime
__________________
"It's like the difference between eating muffin tops, and a muffin...They've got you all eating muffin tops" - Jonathan

EVERYTHING!!! is a state of mind

[passing]

I read these interesting posts on this thread:

The Elite and Satanism/Luciferianism? Why? http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=85405&page=2


Quote:
Originally Posted by marpat

heaven and hell could exist in some form on the astral, built by centuries of people imagining that such a place exists. If you mind is connected to those ideas then you can be snared by them.


Are you advising caution? If so thanks, but this is waaaaaay far ahead for me. :)

[sentient being]

Are you advising caution? If so thanks, but this is waaaaaay far ahead for me. :)


Stay forever safe and keep us posted.

[newworldengineer]

has anyone lucid dreamed on a magick carpet before?? Now that's quite a mystical experience :)

[whiterain]

has anyone lucid dreamed on a magick carpet before?? Now that's quite a mystical experience :)

wow sounds like fun. i dont think i have, although last night i ended my dream flying over the landscape of many previous dreams put together, in some kind of undescribable flying machine (i didnt even really get a look at it, almost like it was invisible).

i had friends in the dream ask what we should do, and i was like well round that corner in another dream there was this amazing river walk or just round there is this park ive seen before in dreams. amazing. cheers for nudging me to remember it

[sodi]

I dont know if this counts

the other day I had a dream about hands and crawling trough a small hole. Well that very same night on tv I saw some girl crawling trough some hole lol

probably just a coincidence and means nothing at all

[newworldengineer]

wow sounds like fun. i dont think i have, although last night i ended my dream flying over the landscape of many previous dreams put together, in some kind of undescribable flying machine (i didnt even really get a look at it, almost like it was invisible).

i had friends in the dream ask what we should do, and i was like well round that corner in another dream there was this amazing river walk or just round there is this park ive seen before in dreams. amazing. cheers for nudging me to remember it

I've dreamt of many bizarre flying devices!! Shit that I know I couldn't make up in my head! I never thought I'd dream about a majick carpet though, never thought there would be any real significance with a silly thing like that! I remember grabbing hold of a clump of the carpet from the front and holding it like a joystick to guide it thru the air :-P

[soul_traveller]

Interesting information and she also gives a very important message.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=NvzTWT85LGE&mode=related&search=

[whiterain]

I've dreamt of many bizarre flying devices!! Shit that I know I couldn't make up in my head! I never thought I'd dream about a majick carpet though, never thought there would be any real significance with a silly thing like that! I remember grabbing hold of a clump of the carpet from the front and holding it like a joystick to guide it thru the air :-P

haha the best contraption ive flown in could only be described as a cross between a plane, a ship and a ferris wheel (kind of folding up on itself). and if you can picture that youv done well.

[soul_traveller]

Ok, posting again in case above link don't work.


Interesting information and she also gives a very important message.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NvzTWT85LGE&mode=related&search=

[passing]

Hello,
sorry I haven't been adding quotes from the Muldoon book, but here's a link to a pretty good precis at psychwww.com (http://www.psychwww.com/asc/obe/whois_mu.html)

[passing]

I woke up for ten minutes at 6am and then went back... I've been reading about lucid dreaming and astral projection quite a bit and had the idea as I lay back down that this was a good time to try something... then a gap... fell asleep... I had a dream of lying down in the back of a large white van parked in a street I used to live in... two of my friends (from that street) were in the front, although I couldn't see them. The van started rolling downhill, backwards, so I could see the dangerous main road approaching at the bottom. As the van accelerated I panicked and banged on the ceiling to alert my friends - I punched the wall and woke up!

Duh :D

[newworldengineer]

I woke up for ten minutes at 6am and then went back... I've been reading about lucid dreaming and astral projection quite a bit and had the idea as I lay back down that this was a good time to try something... then a gap... fell asleep... I had a dream of lying down in the back of a large white van parked in a street I used to live in... two of my friends (from that street) were in the front, although I couldn't see them. The van started rolling downhill, backwards, so I could see the dangerous main road approaching at the bottom. As the van accelerated I panicked and banged on the ceiling to alert my friends - I punched the wall and woke up!

Duh :D

That could be quite symbolic of you trying to frustratingly wake your friends up and time's running out, do you reckon that could be the case?

[passing]

That could be quite symbolic of you trying to frustratingly wake your friends up and time's running out, do you reckon that could be the case?

I see what you mean, and they do laugh at my 'conspiracy theories' :rolleyes: ...well, one of them does... the more open-minded one, somebody I look up to, was in the driving seat... which would fit with what you're saying.

Still, punching the wall is a million miles away from a dormant body with free-roaming consciousness - which is what I'm aiming at.

Thanks newworldengineer.

[newworldengineer]

I see what you mean, and they do laugh at my 'conspiracy theories' :rolleyes: ...well, one of them does... the more open-minded one, somebody I look up to, was in the driving seat... which would fit with what you're saying.

Still, punching the wall is a million miles away from a dormant body with free-roaming consciousness - which is what I'm aiming at.

Thanks newworldengineer.

no worries :) I love interpreting dreams, I find them so significant. People just passively tell their dreams to me (if they're interesting enough) in conversation and what they tell me, tells me sooo much about that person or the path they have taken and where it might lead... Where as before I might not have put any significance on the value of dreams as a kind of guidance tool, so they stick out more in my reality connecting dots to solving the conundrums in my personal life and those connected to it.

I had one really lucid dream I guess you could call it, where I was messing around in a van on a highway, I think me and my mates had just parked up on the side of the road, then this dude came up to the window and said "you don't want to stay around here mate, there's police about" and I was like "so, we're not doing anything illegal" and he was like with serious face "get out of here, they don't mess about round here!"... which in turn prompted me to drive the fuck out of there! Then I woke up :confused:

I see it as symbolizing the coming police state, and troops on the streets like what it said on the front page of the Metro today!!! they're finally implimenting it folks, here in the UK in all it's glory.... :mad:

things to avoid in the future: chavs, gang members and now gangs of combat cops.

[suicidal_martyr]

lol, I talk about this kind of stuff on a local forum I use and they all aggressively bash and ridicule me, like I am weird or something. They are the fricken weird ones...for being zombie minded.

[now here]

The possibility to dream consciously has been scientifically proven through empirical experiments.

[passing]

Hey hey hey!
You can read most of the book I've been going on about here:

http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=Z3hRU7_mCVEC&lpg=PA80&ots=ZfXoY_3QeF&dq=astral%20cable&pg=PA84#v=onepage&q=astral%20cable&f=false

The stuff about the pineal gland is on page 84. Has anyone heard of brain sand before?

Enjoy!

[whiterain]

last night was the first time ive ever become lucid by lifting up someones skirt :eek:

i knew it had to be a dream cos i didnt get a smack :o

[kblood]

last night was the first time ive ever become lucid by lifting up someones skirt :eek:

i knew it had to be a dream cos i didnt get a smack :o

Hehe, I actually did this in real life. I had a period where I found a way to do telekinesis at a bar. Using my emotions I guess, to be able to touch something from afar. Lifting up skirts, zipping down zippers.They didnt smack me for doing it for some reason, I made sure they knew it was me and my gestures made it quite obvious. It was rather funny though while it lasted :) Dont think I can do it anymore. Havent tried it for a long time.

[whiterain]

Hehe, I actually did this in real life. I had a period where I found a way to do telekinesis at a bar. Using my emotions I guess, to be able to touch something from afar. Lifting up skirts, zipping down zippers.They didnt smack me for doing it for some reason, I made sure they knew it was me and my gestures made it quite obvious. It was rather funny though while it lasted :) Dont think I can do it anymore. Havent tried it for a long time.

when you did it, did it feel like you could actually feel the object you were moving, almost like it was a part of your body? ive had similar things but only in a state where i couldnt be sure if it was only an astral thing or actually physically happening

[kblood]

when you did it, did it feel like you could actually feel the object you were moving, almost like it was a part of your body? ive had similar things but only in a state where i couldnt be sure if it was only an astral thing or actually physically happening

Yes, it felt as if my hand was there, although it wasnt physically. If it was an out of body experience, it sounds likely it actually did happen somewhere. In dreams, we shouldnt be able to feel anything at least, which is why some people pinch them selves to see if they are dreaming.

[whiterain]

i definately remember feeing my whole environment like it was my hands and arms. it was the most ridiculous feeling as what i was processing with my eyes and what i felt in my body, in no way matched up whatsoever. i definately feel things in dreams, although im sure the pinching thing can work as i certainly dont feel pain in the same way, well very rarely at least

[diamond dogs]

I read the opening post for the first time last night and thought I would tell myself to remember my dream ..as it has been a very long time since I recall any dreams and low and behold I had a vivid dream.. I was on a stage (like at school) with HRH and her other officials, I was asked a question (can't remeber what it was) and I replied which had the Queen in laughter..I was thinking why have they chosen me to be up here on the stage??

Gonna try again tonight :)

[passing]

I read the opening post for the first time last night and thought I would tell myself to remember my dream ..as it has been a very long time since I recall any dreams and low and behold I had a vivid dream.. I was on a stage (like at school) with HRH and her other officials, I was asked a question (can't remeber what it was) and I replied which had the Queen in laughter..I was thinking why have they chosen me to be up here on the stage??

Gonna try again tonight :)

Nice one. I've gotta make more of an effort to remember and write them down, thanks for reminding me!

[whiterain]

I read the opening post for the first time last night and thought I would tell myself to remember my dream ..as it has been a very long time since I recall any dreams and low and behold I had a vivid dream.. I was on a stage (like at school) with HRH and her other officials, I was asked a question (can't remeber what it was) and I replied which had the Queen in laughter..I was thinking why have they chosen me to be up here on the stage??

Gonna try again tonight :)

i had a dream with a vivid iimage of the queen the other night. it was weird though because she just kind of floated past me and the vibe i got was that she was sort of just one of the lads i was knocking round with :confused:

[diamond dogs]

i had a dream with a vivid iimage of the queen the other night. it was weird though because she just kind of floated past me and the vibe i got was that she was sort of just one of the lads i was knocking round with :confused:


..I got a similar impression..I felt she was connecting with me and chosen me to be on stage, she was laughing at my remarks, she did sit with her back towards me away from the 'audience' though :confused:

[whiterain]

i had a really pally one about obama too. weird thing was it was just after discussing how naive people were to belive he was some kind of saviour figure.
the only impression it left was one of him being literally one of the best blokes you will ever meet. so bizarre it makes me question how much dream interference is possible

[whiterain]

caught a minute of countryfile before bed last night so had a vivid animal realted dream. the saddest part was hatching some chicks which then shrunk to a microscopic level so disapeared. ive had this quite frequently with pets in dreams, almost like its a symbol of my inability to take responsibility for looking after things. another part i had 2 baby goats which ran away. one never came back but i caught one and had a bizarre fight with it where it rammed me with its horns and lifted me off the ground. i could feel the pain and had no idea what to do but i eventually grabbed the horns and pulled myself off them and subdued the goat and put it on a lead. i never really got lucid throughout the dream despite visiting places i have constantly seen in dreams. its almost as real as my local area to me these days. i could probably draw out a good map and its all linked to places ive been to in real life. also despite repeatedly saying to friends 'god this is weird because ive shown you all this stuff before except that time it was in a dream' i never caught on...

[sentient being]

Thanks for all the interesting contributions. More, more more.

[whiterain]

hi sb. i keep ahving this recurring one where im at this place just outside some ice cream parlour that feels so familiar that it seems i used to go there all the time. im working outside by some water like the ponds you get at big posh estates, but i still cant figure out what job im doing exactly. its so weird cos its really repetetive yet every time its really foggy and unclear. the ice cream parlour is a cool place tho. once i was in it with my dad who was on acid and dancing like a crazy fool it was great. not been too lucid lately but it seems to be coming back, meanwhile the meditaion is going a lot better after aaaaages of no progress

[whiterain]

last night i had a whole new incredible level of dream experience. i was meditating in bed, starting with some energy work then eventually focussing on the 3rd eye area. i slipped into the dream state which is unusual for me as dreams are usually at the end of the night. this time though i was immediately completely wide awake in the dream except it was so realistic that i had no idea it was a dream. i was at a party/bar and offered a go on someones peace pipe and accepted. ive taken 'salvia' in dreams before, and while its been good fun, it usually just enhances the dream or makes it a little bit more 'out there'. this time was completely new though.

i was instantly 100% completely tripping and floated up to the ceiling with some of my companions, as if surfing the crest of a rising wave in some kind of crowd surfing type feeling. after this things got a bit more random and i was transported instantly between completely different scenarios. at this stage i still had no idea i was asleep and it felt exactly as it would if i had been in a pretty deep trip.

i came to a more familiar setting yet it felt as if i was being messed with. what i mean is that everything around me was exactly the same as my local setting except things like pubs and signposts would have completely different names, so im stood there thinking wtf this looks like my park but how is there a completely similar place that exists somewhere else.

i started to get that whole cartoony lego flipbook effect of a trips visuals and was back on the crest of the crowd surfing wave. it felt a bit disconcerting as i felt like i was being observed as some kind of experiment. i felt like i was being shown scenes from my past while the observers gauged my reaction. this was worrying as i felt like i had no control over what i was to see. as i craved more familiarity, people i know kept popping in to say hello. this was so odd as i was convinced this was actually happening but had no idea how it could be possible that all these unrelated people from my past could be in the same place. this continued for a long while and i kept seeing past scenes and completely made up ones.

in the most clear of these scenes i was back in the changing room of the football team i used to play for as a kid. i must have been about 11ish. what struck me most was how real it felt and i was amazed (by now i was catching on it was a dream) at how i could remember the details like the shirts my teammates wore to training etc. it was here i got the biggest nudge to knock me lucid. when i do the third eye focussing i often get a bit of an eye crossing effect and it was a bit like this had been transferred over to my dream eyes. i had a panoramic view of the people in the room and as i scanned across them i realised that there were duplicate people, which felt part like i just had my eyes crossed and was seeing double, and part like they were actually there which of course struck me as odd and my awareness increased.

i floated back into the party area and became aware that parts of the dream were just repeating themselves as if the whole image was some kind of clockwork contraption that i could just navigate at will. i repeated the floaty up to the celing bit except this time we floated to close to a fan. it wasnt really anything to be afraid of though and we kind of pushed ourselves away from it. the feeling of floating was the main thing that reminded me i was free to explore the dream on my own and had no need to sit through the images i was being shown earlier however the uncontollable trip aspect kept reappearing. an ex appeared in front of me and i was so happy to see her that i started to cry but as soon as this happened i kind of split with the aspect of me that was crying and realised it was a different version of me that was feeling those emotions.

the whole thing was very remeniscent of the most positive aspects of a salvia trip, and although things like lucid and astral are just terms of description, this definately felt at times like it went beyond a dream and into nearly fully conscious projections. i didnt check how long it lasted in real time but the whole thing felt like a few hours more than it ever could have been. it often had the reality and control of a fully lucid dream but at times had the abstract nature and alien dimensions of a full astral trip.

if i could only work on the little gap of lost consciousness between meditating and falling asleep then i would be the happiest person alive and all the fear i still feel will melt away. i stayed awake for a short while to try to cement the memories, then returned to sleep, which this time was lacking on the abstract lucid nature of the previous dream but still was a full on party for at least as long as the physical time duration i was asleep for. it was also about the 3rd dream ive had in the past couple of months where ive actually uttered the phrase 'this is the best party ive ever been to'. the party dreams are the most common ones at the moment, yet usually arent lucid because firstly they are so real that its nearly impossible to find a dream marker to nudge you into lucidity and frankly im usually having such a good time that i dont want to look for a marker as i dont want anything about the experience to change.



the main thing i think i can take from it is how it showed me repeatedly the extremely subtle differences between being in an uncontollable state of fear while feeling that other people are controlling your dream thoughts, and the absolute freedom and bliss that is literally just a tiny change in awareness away. i must have switched between these states a good 10 or so times, and while it didnt give me the key to making every future event a positive one, it has definately given me far more confidence to have a go at facing my fear with things like salvia etc



edit: i think i just remembered a bit of the transition into the dream. i was starring up at my lightshade through half closed eyes trying to visualise it as the moon. there was definately a point in the dream where i just went 'shit its the moon, its really there'. whether this was at the very start its hard to say, although many hypnagogic images ive had in the past at the beginning of dreams have been circular things like moons, cogs, wheels lights etc

[bobbydiva]

Now that's a trip

[curly]

Anyone ever tried using crystals as an aid to dreaming,Moldavite,a meteoric stone is supposed to produce very vivid dreams when a piece is slipped in your pillow case or even taped to your forehead.Herkimer diamond is said to increase the visionary qualities of dreams but the best to use for lucid dreaming would be Herderite and Brookite,these can trigger both out of body and lucid dreaming experiences.Reference the Book of Stones,who are they and what they teach by Robert Simmons and Naisha Ahsian

[delamo1999]

I had an interesting dream last night. In the dream, I was coming home to my current apartment and outside my door was a small box. When I opened up the box, inside were about 250 business cards with my name on it. The company name that was on the card was a former employer of mine who I had worked for and quit almost 3 years ago.

Not sure what to make of this. Any input?

:)

[sentient being]

I had an interesting dream last night. In the dream, I was coming home to my current apartment and outside my door was a small box. When I opened up the box, inside were about 250 business cards with my name on it. The company name that was on the card was a former employer of mine who I had worked for and quit almost 3 years ago.

Not sure what to make of this. Any input?

:)



Maybe you should call them to see if you have any funds coming to you from contributions to certain "plans" that you don't know you made.

[kblood]

Yea, that does sound like you should consider working there again.

[newworldengineer]

I guess it all depends on how the dream felt too. But I've found that alot of what I dream manifests in someway onto this plane, it's the time lapse that's a little hazy between the dream and the transmutation into this realm. It's obviously not exactly the same as what's in your dream but you get the general feel when something shows up in your life, that you may have got the very sense of that from a dream previously, whether it be symbols, the people involved, the circumstances you find yourself in.. etc...

[michael_mac]

There is a definite correlation between what happens in the dream state and conscious reality!

The higher self can help create dream content to show you the way!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZYK-DZxcwQ

[ufochick]

here is some info for those interested. There are actually 3 bodies. The physical, the etheric and the astral.

The physical is obvious
The etheric is the body that creates the aura. it is an energy duplicate of the physical body. It normally does not leave the physical body. Ity can be forced from the physical body by various techniques, none of which anyone would ever do to themeselves. When it is seperated the physical body becomes quite ill and weak.
The astral body is what some call the soul. It is able to leave the body, at will which is called out of body experience or astral travel.

Lucid dreaming occures when the person is in a state of low alpha waves and either falls asleep keeping control of the mental state or takes control in an already happening dream. During lucid dreaming the soul does not leave the body. the experience is within the mind of the dreamer.

Astral travel happens when the person either on purpose, by accident or by drug use finds themselves outside of their physical body. The astral body leaves the physical body. I have heard many say we are tethered to our physical bodies when out of our bodies. Personaly I have not seen this tether. In this state thought become reality.

It is an actual plane where one may meet other consciousness or other Beings. There are different levels where different things reside. Reality is created by thought on the astral planes. If your reality is strong it may overide the other's "person's" reality if a melding of realities occurs or one is drawn into another's reality. This is also the realm where thought forms are created purposely and by accident. This is where magicians can create a thought form feeding it with their own energy drawn from other sources and set it to a task. It is where wards are set to protect things. Thought forms created and left in the astral can be sensed by those in the physical from time to time. If done well a ward can be sensed by all in the physical.

In the "lower" astral levels, the vibration is lower and there can be thoughtforms that have been created but not disassembled that can be quite unpleasant. It is important to have a sense of vibratory levels before entering the astral planes, if any time is to be spent there.

The safest way to navigate these realms is to begin with lucid dreaming. Once one has control COMPLETE control of their dreams they will have more control in the astral realms and their created reality has a better chance of overiding other realities to get out of "problems" that may occur. It is also of great importance that a person have control of their own thoughts, because what one thinks actually becomes reality.

[ufochick]

Be careful my love. This internet is a an extremely powerful tool to get data/info/ideas etc., instantly into your subconscious. You as with many of us, are getting sucked into The Borg Agenda/Mass Consciousness through this avenue. They don't call it the inter NET and world wide WEB for nothing. They are telling you the truth in plain view.

You should consider easing up your time spent on it. Disaster, nuclear bombs , bibles etc., are all things you're subconscious is absorbing from this place. It is imperative once we know of the agenda and the ways they are using your consciouness to create their wickedness, that you extricate yourself and get back to using your consciousness to create joy not sad feelings in your life.

Again, the creative muscle which is critical thinking is not being used here. We're just looking and absorbing info.

What good can dwelling on conspiracies do for anyone? It's just one piece of the puzzle of the mystery we call life. Conspiracy theories have been around for 60 and more years and what good did it do for the likes of William Cooper? Just got him snuffed out and left the sadness and misery of lonliness for his wife and child to experience.

If ya catch ma drift, this place just answers questions, then it's time for you to close off and go use your creative ability to live life fully and stop contributing to their evil. See: The Borg Agenda, master Lucid dreaming and Lucid living in order to be a living example that, resistance to the Borg Agenda is absoloutely necessary and achievable for the continuation of life kind on this planet.

Places like this forum are just a pit stop in your exit from the maze of this ridiculous matrix.



I myself feel like I've contribued enough for the time being and will be making my exit today. After all, life is so much better without a computer and as I've stayed focused on what I'm creating or manifesting, I'm seeing tangible results rapidly every day. So it is with joyful anticipation I look forward to total resisitance to The Borg Ageda/being a part of mass consciousness.

All the best.

Absofuckinglutely right!!! Great post!!

Our thoughts conscious and unconscious permiate all the dimensions and create the common reality.. each time we think "Oh there will be another war" we add to the probablity there will be. Each time we think "there will be peace soon" we add to that probability.
The biggest step any of us can take to hasten the change of this reality is to take responsibility and control for and of our own thoughts and to a lesser extent believe it or not our actions....

[kblood]

Absofuckinglutely right!!! Great post!!

Our thoughts conscious and unconscious permiate all the dimensions and create the common reality.. each time we think "Oh there will be another war" we add to the probablity there will be. Each time we think "there will be peace soon" we add to that probability.
The biggest step any of us can take to hasten the change of this reality is to take responsibility and control for and of our own thoughts and to a lesser extent believe it or not our actions....

Yes, and that is what makes the Internet a useful tool, since that perception can be helped to change. For better or worse of course. Still it is also impossible to create things without people believing in it or not, if the few people involved in it believe in it enough. Take the codex alimentarious. Not knowing about it would not have stopped it. Same goes for other things, like our health care system in the western world and how twisted it has become.

Sometimes it takes knowledge of it to willfully change it, and the health care system here in Denmark has been forced to improve itself because people put focus on good supplements we were not allowed to get here in Denmark.

[sentient being]

do you not find the oneness of the spirit world very borg like then?



Geuss this is why you find it so. Even before I read this: (the other chapters are short sweet and absoloutely one of the most if not the most inspiring and sensible things I've ever read that I felt from the innate wiseness that dwells within me)

Blowing the Whistle/ Chpt. 11: Goal of ‘The Oneness Doctrine’: Kill Everything Oneness Cares About

This is Chapter 11 in an evolving book: ‘Blowing the Whistle on Enlightenment: Confessions of a New Age Heretic,’ by Bronte Baxter





Individuality in league with Oneness (not Oneness alone) will win the day and restore human freedom. The gospel of Oneness, all by itself, supports the New World Order. Proponents say it doesn’t matter if the world goes to hell in a hand basket, because after all, this world is an illusion and only Oneness Consciousness is real. If we know that, they argue, it doesn’t matter what happens, because there’s really no happiness or suffering, right or wrong, life or death, good or no bad — only the Oneness. So who cares?



I understand how people caught in the web of Eastern religion and New Age mumbo jumbo come to those conclusions. Their teachers’ purpose is to make them passive, “surrendered to the One,” their ego (personal selfhood) made into the enemy that must be killed. The teachers state it outright: “ego death” is the goal.


But that conspiracy-conscious people can fall into the same plight, instead of raising a cry for freedom and life in this world, came as a shock to me. I realize now it’s because Truth Movement leaders themselves sometimes combine the Oneness Doctrine with their research and information on the conspiracy. These people may have mystical experiences of their own that they trust in the way the religious trust their gurus, never questioning where they came from or why they were given to them.


The assumption seems to be that if it happened in my head and was accompanied by euphoria and fireworks, it must be true, and proof of the nature of the universe. But if the Illuminati extend to realms between visual perception (and evidence indicates they do – see my article series, Blowing the Whistle on Enlightenment), the Illuminati could be the source of much of mankind’s mystical experience. It’s easy for beings in the Unseen, adept at thought transference, to implant ideas in the minds of willing seekers, generating chemical changes in their brains and bodies and making them feel like they’ve been kissed by God. This would be particularly easy if the seekers have imbibed hallucinogenic substances.


I believe that well-intentioned, semi-depressed people are being implanted with messages that God has sent them to save the world. The urgency this produces gives their lives a particular sense of meaning. The message they receive is either that there is a war on among the Powers of Light and Darkness, which they must help fight, or that seeing through the illusion called reality and uniting with Infinite Oneness is the end-all and be-all of human existence. Both messages hold enough truth that they appeal to those who receive them as genuine. Both are so flawed as to point the receiver in the wrong direction, toward beliefs that favor humanity handing the universe into the Illuminati’s conniving hands.


The Light and Dark War of Principalities is nothing more than the Good Cop – Bad Cop Game taken to celestial levels. Like the eternal war between the Democrats and Republicans, it is unreal – a smokescreen designed to hide where the real action happens. Lucifer and Jehovah are on the same side: control of humanity. The “gods” and “demons” of Indianism are on the same side. As long as mankind provides the loosh (life energy) to the nether worlds through worship or suffering, all in the Fourth Dimension are happy.


It doesn’t matter if you call for help from Satan or Jesus, Krishna or Kali, you’re aligning your soul with the gang of brigands who have hijacked our lives by controlling us at our most intimate level. This control is not a takeover, but rather, freely given. Worshipers of their own accord give their lives to management by these beings, whom they regard as divine. They think in so doing they fight on the right side in the battle of good against evil. But all they do in fact is supply the life force, the loosh, needed for humanity’s hijackers to continue feeding off our hearts and souls.


Those who surrender their flawed human egos to the Oneness are no different. They, too, give their souls to management by the Fourth Dimension’s united company of tricksters. This is the point so many in the Truth Movement miss. We think that by making Oneness consciousness our supreme goal we are becoming pure. We think by embracing The Doctrine of Oneness we acquire supreme wisdom.

But the doctrine as it is taught today, even as the greatest Indian masters once taught it, is corrupt. The truth has been contaminated by the Fourth Dimension. Because the doctrine teaches that individual ego is a perversion of the Infinite, something that must be dissolved back into the universal consciousness for us to become wholesome and free. As such, that doctrine erodes the integrity of humanity.


It does so because it puts our world’s future up for grabs when it tells us to abdicate personal desire and intention as constructs of the ego. If we regard our individual nature as a corruption of Oneness, we conclude we must negate our ego to know Truth. We abdicate everything about us that makes us aware, decisive, will-exerting doers in this world – in favor of melting into the One, whose cosmic workings are thought to be automatic and perfect once humans remove their will and personality from the equation.


Whether or not the Doctrine of Oneness entails mantras and worship of gods, it is destructive. Because the doctrine is taught at the expense of the personality, the part of us that makes choices, that makes a difference in the world. When ego is taught as something essentially corrupt, or essentially unreal, it ceases to have value for us, and we naturally want to abandon it. This is exactly what the Illuminati desire from us, more than anything else we can give.


When we turn our backs on our ego, on the individual will and personality that is the very spark of the Infinite within us, we set our souls on the freebie shelf of the universe, to be absorbed or manipulated by Fourth Dimension entities. Our acts no longer appear to be our own – they feel like the work of forces moving through us. That perception is correct. But those forces are not the winds of Infinity, as the possessed assume: those forces are the egos of the possessors, who cherish this surrender of human selfhood.


By making the choice to regard all except the Oneness as flawed, unreal or insignificant, we turn over control of this universe to anyone who hasn’t abdicated their authority as a doer. Those are the only players still left on the field. This non-surrendered-ego group includes the Fourth Dimension band of brigands as well as those humans who accept neither the Oneness Doctrine nor the Doctrine of the War of Principalities – in other words, those who respect and retain their personhood and all its attendant faculties of will and desire.


I am not saying that Oneness, the Infinite Oneness that is the source from which we came, that place deep within us where we are all united, does not exist or is not important. It’s of supreme importance. The Infinite is the font of all life, all joy, all inspiration, all creativity. It is that which inspires us. It is pure genius. That Infinite, and our conscious connection with It, holds all the hope for our breaking out of the slavery we have let be visited on us materially and spiritually.


But to say It is the only reality, that everything except for It is a corruption of the Oneness – which is how the Doctrine of Oneness is perpetually preached – that is a perversion of the truth, designed to control us. If the Illuminati, functioning in the field of spiritual teachings, can get us to believe that we as individuals are illusory, that all we really are is the One, we will give up treasuring our will and desires as gifts of the divine, expressions of the Infinite, and throw them onto the waste pile as impure.

From that waste pile, they will be collected by the brigands who are able to use our abandoned will and desiring mechanism to achieve their own desires. When you abandon responsibility for your ego, which never can be destroyed since it is the stuff of consciousness, it is not the Oneness that takes over your personhood and absorbs it, it is other egos. The vulture-like, thieving egos who want to control all beings and bring them into alignment with their will.


When you surrender your ego, it does not dissolve as you have been promised, because the spark that you are can never dissolve. Your ego is either absorbed by the “god” you worship, increasing that entity’s personal power, or, if you do not worship a god, it is absorbed by any passing brigand who happens to notice that it has been abandoned. Ego = personhood = individual soul. This is soul-stealing, by permission.


Why can’t we all just dissolve into the Oneness? Because the Oneness didn’t make us individuals by accident, as some big cosmic mistake. We were created on purpose, as expressions of the joy of the Infinite. Just as a serene artist takes the joy in her heart and turns it into a fountain of expressions, each art piece revealing a unique aspect of her thoughts and nature, so the Infinite made us all unique expressions of aspects of its limitless self. It WANTS to see its oneness made into myriad shapes. It created the universe to be a delight, a mirror story of its own joy and greatness. Instead creation has slid into a nightmare, delight overshadowed by the misery and cruelty that comes of forgetting the nature of our inner being.


The flaws in creation are not because the Infinite individuated, but because its unique expressions – you and me – forgot our deeper nature, forgot the infinite power, bliss, and goodness that only can be located and tapped deep within ourselves in the place where we’re one with the Infinite.


The solution to our suffering is not to surrender our egos to the cosmic freebie shelf/ dump heap under the guise of awakening to Oneness. Rather, it is to bathe our personhood in the purity of the Infinite, to drink deeply of its waters, to melt our cares in its bliss and consciously become again what we are at core: pure molecules within that infinite ocean. From the bath, we return to the world and make it better, more joyful, more free, more inspired. We spontaneously grasp solutions to problems that eluded us before.


After enough bathing in the Infinite, it’s possible to move through this world and act here without ever leaving the consciousness that holds us in that embrace. The world becomes God’s ocean where we splash and cavort. That is God’s dream for the world – not amorphous, static Oneness. The amorphous is where God started from, and God found it boring. That’s why It created diversity, to play in. Because sitting being amorphous – simple Oneness – got dull.


Why would we make being “amorphous” our end-all and be-all, when it was the Infinite’s starting point, the very place it was endeavoring to emerge from in hopes of creating something interesting? Oneness isn’t interesting, it’s blissful. Just being blissful by itself gets old. Bliss needs to express in myriad creations to be fun and dynamic. It needs to desire, intend, make, choose, and act – all functions of ego. To say getting back to the Oneness is the whole point of life is like saying getting back to the first scene of the play is the whole point of the play, or getting back to the starting line is the whole point of the race.


The point is to run the race, play the play, dance the dance – and to do it in a way that retains contact with the consciousness that inspired the endeavor: the Infinite joy and oneness. When we learn to connect with the Oneness without abdicating the beauty and importance of multiplicity (variety), then will the purpose of creation be accomplished.


Then we will know how to dissolve the malignity that afflicts us. We will see that those who wish to control the rest are confused parts of our Greater Self. W won’t wish to destroy them but to help them. Our love, our inmost nature, will forgive and heal them. Then all God’s children will sport on the cosmic playground in laughter together – no more bullies and victims. No more battles and taking sides. No more stopping playing and being amorphous/ withdrawn in some corner. Life will be joy as we have not known it, for from the perspective of Infinity we will learn to dissolve everything that causes suffering here.


That is the divine vision, not destruction of one team on the battlefield, and certainly not the destruction of creation through abdication of personhood. But unless we awaken to the lies in the Doctrine of Oneness, the end of creation is what we promote. When the brand of brigands has consumed every ego in the universe through clever spiritual lies, it will be the proverbial snake that has swallowed its own tail. Creation will implode if that is allowed to happen.


We contribute to cosmic implosion when we accept the Doctrine of Oneness, striving for dissolution of ego into Oneness as our highest goal. The truly highest goal is Oneness expressing in joy in the forms of its myriad children, who make up the infinite garden of the world.


Bronte Baxter

http://brontebaxter.wordpress.com/blowing-the-whistle-on-enlightenment-confessions-of-a-new-age-heretic/

[whiterain]

hi sb yeah ive tried reading that before but her writing style doesnt agree with my reading style if you see what i mean. ill give it another go, but i struggle to see what shes getting at

[whiterain]

had another look at it. ive just never come across any of these people and their beliefs she is describing. yes people believe that this is an illusion but that doesnt mean it doesnt matter what happens. the ego too is not about surrendering it but rather learning to live with it and not let it hold you back

[passing]

the ego too is not about surrendering it but rather learning to live with it and not let it hold you back

'hold you back' like get in the way, lead you astray..?

I too must come back and read the long posts above and think about it...

Cheers all.

[whiterain]

had a minor bit of success last night. i had the same feeling that i was about to enter the phase of a dream where an inevitable set of events will result in breaking through to the other side. usually this absolutely shits me up and i lose it but last night i just kind of went oh well if its inevitable and just shrugged and let it happen. it didnt fully happen but its a step forward. im getting better at not fighting the flow and just going with it i feel

[sentient being]

'hold you back' like get in the way, lead you astray..?

I too must come back and read the long posts above and think about it...

Cheers all.



Cheers.

[kblood]

Nice post Sentient Being :) I do find the ego very interesting as well, and I think I went into it a bit earlier in this thread.

had another look at it. ive just never come across any of these people and their beliefs she is describing. yes people believe that this is an illusion but that doesnt mean it doesnt matter what happens. the ego too is not about surrendering it but rather learning to live with it and not let it hold you back

The ones following religion should be obvious, those who are deeply into Christian teachings beliefs such abilities as healing, telepathy and telekinesis is something that comes from the devil. Therefore trying to ignore all that, and live their lives in sky clads. Not much different from most people anyway.

And the Eastern Religions? They seem to be exactly that. Go away from civilization and meditate to make the world a better place through oneness. I guess it does have some truth in it, but to affect other minds being bombarded by the media today takes a bit more than that I think.

Here is the teachings of Buddhism (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buddhism#Impermanence.2C_suffering_and_non-self): (The Four Noble Truths)

1. Life as we know it ultimately is or leads to suffering/uneasiness (dukkha) in one way or another.
2. Suffering is caused by craving. This is often expressed as a deluded clinging to a certain sense of existence, to selfhood, or to the things or phenomena that we consider the cause of happiness or unhappiness. Craving also has its negative aspect, i.e. one craves that a certain state of affairs not exist.
3. Suffering ends when craving ends. This is achieved by eliminating delusion, thereby reaching a liberated state of Enlightenment (bodhi);
4. Reaching this liberated state is achieved by following the path laid out by the Buddha.

In Buddhism they believe life and living it leads to suffering. I have read it through, and although most of it is THE way of reaching the state of oneness in yourself, it is also a way of escaping physical life. In my experience this is in fact what scares me about my own oneness experiences, because when the most into this state the self seems fading away. But I usually did have a connection with my "self" even in this state. Only once did I believe I was about to loose my 'self". Felt as if I was loosing it completely, although I do not think that is possible. I was trying to channel someone else though, so might have been another self trying to push me out.

There is a truth in that we are not separate and that it is a delusion as the Buddha teaches, but this delusion is our ego and self. Without it, we would not have any personality and we would just be part of a borg being as someone claimed. So my belief is to truly reach enlightenment, or reach for it at least, would be to make the ego and oneness go along side by side. This way you can go between the state of the almost all knowing wisdom of oneness and the state of self awareness. I do not believe self awareness is possible if you loose your ego. When in between these two states that is what I would call lucid living and when you truly shape your own life and future.

That is my goal, making life a lucid dream. I might even have succeeded with it a few times. I might still be doing it although not in as spectacular a way.

[passing]

In Buddhism they believe life and living it leads to suffering. I have read it through, and although most of it is THE way of reaching the state of oneness in yourself, it is also a way of escaping physical life. In my experience this is in fact what scares me about my own oneness experiences, because when the most into this state the self seems fading away

Hello,
I think this is relevant:
...in Gurdjieff's writing (a mishmash, said to be part Sufi and part 'esoteric Christianity' among other things) there is description of how one's 'essence' (true inner self) comes to be hidden by false 'personality' (or multiple 'personalities'). We learn these social roles in order to fit in and get on, often despite our own wishes (which can get pushed aside). This is partly an attempt to avoid suffering.

In order to live rightly, which is what your Buddhist quote is aiming at, we have to do away with these false 'personalities', or at least learn to control them, thus allowing our 'essence' to live a real life. This means deliberately accepting suffering, like a junkie deciding to kick the habit.

This stuff has been very useful to me, although I won't pretend to be very far down the road of living truly or rightly... better than I used to be, though, sometimes!

EDIT: so your 'self fading away' I would guess (?) could be the/a death of the false, and rebirth of the real.

[kblood]

Hello,
I think this is relevant:
...in Gurdjieff's writing (a mishmash, said to be part Sufi and part 'esoteric Christianity' among other things) there is description of how one's 'essence' (true inner self) comes to be hidden by false 'personality' (or multiple 'personalities'). We learn these social roles in order to fit in and get on, often despite our own wishes (which can get pushed aside). This is partly an attempt to avoid suffering.

In order to live rightly, which is what your Buddhist quote is aiming at, we have to do away with these false 'personalities', or at least learn to control them, thus allowing our 'essence' to live a real life. This means deliberately accepting suffering, like a junkie deciding to kick the habit.

This stuff has been very useful to me, although I won't pretend to be very far down the road of living truly or rightly... better than I used to be, though, sometimes!

EDIT: so your 'self fading away' I would guess (?) could be the/a death of the false, and rebirth of the real.

I do agree a whole lot with Buddhism, but some does seem to take it the other way. That to be good you remove yourself from society and meditate most of your life. Waiting and preparing for the release of death.

And still I do agree with these cravings is what mostly leads to our suffering. Most people are never satisfied with what they have. At least it seems that way. Then again even though I am satisfied with what I have, I always have more desires, because they do give life more purpose. It is a desire to seek enlightenment, I guess they did not think of that when they made Buddhism.

As for this true self, I guess that is what comes from oneness, but I am not sure. I do not think that when completely into oneness there is any self. Its just answers, knowledge and wisdom. The self would be taking your personality and be self aware about it. Learn to balance it. Make the good parts of the personality stand out.

But I do guess that is one way to understand Buddhism as well. The way I live my life is the Middle Way (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buddhism#Middle_Way). I am not going for the highest paying job, because I do not desire more money than I need. Also the highest paying jobs are usually the ones taking up the most time, and I desire more time for hobbies. I do not go out drinking every weekend, but I do not refrain from ever doing it either. My desire is all of what life can offer, in small portions at a time. And experiencing it as much as possible :)

[passing]

It is a desire to seek enlightenment, I guess they did not think of that when they made Buddhism.

The way I live my life is the Middle Way (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buddhism#Middle_Way).

Zen Buddhism seems to teach, in its own inscrutable way, that if you stop the desiring, you're there. But it's like anything, you notice that you're 'there' (in the zone, doing or not-doing ;) that thing) and suddenly you're not there any more! ...because you got in the way, or the world of concerns got in the way...

Moments of enlightenment are still real enlightenment, helping you to see why and how to get yourself out of the way in order to come back for longer and more often.

I'll have a look at the Middle Way... sounds oddly like Gurdjieff's 'Fourth Way'.


From Wikipedia ...and I verify it from having read some of the books :)

Gurdjieff claimed that there were only three ordinary ways for real spiritual development. Gurdjieff referred to his methods as the "Fourth Way."[1]

The first three ways are:

* The way of the fakir (physical)

The fakir works to obtain mastery of the attention (self-mastery) through struggles with the physical body involving difficult physical exercises and postures.

* The way of the monk (emotional)

The monk (or nun) works to obtain the same mastery of the attention (self-mastery) through struggle with the affections, in the domain, as we say, of the heart, which has been emphasized in the west, and come to be known as the way of faith due to its practice particularly by Catholic religious.

* The way of the yogi (intellectual)

The yogi works to obtain the same mastery of the attention (as before: 'self mastery') through struggle with mental habits and capabilities.

Gurdjieff said that his Fourth Way was a quicker means than the first three ways because it simultaneously combined work on all three centers (physical, emotional and intellectual) rather than focusing on one as is done in the first three ways, (and) that it could be followed by ordinary people in everyday life, requiring no retirement into the desert.

Cheers.

[passing]

p.s. please don't think I'm a follower or advertiser of Mr. G (or his legacy of 'groups'). Although this stuff does go off in religious and 'bizarre' directions, it's also immensely practical and verifiably useful...

[passing]

pps had a look at the link to the 'Middle Way', which is obviously not the same as the Fourth Way...

...the concept of emptiness is very interesting... we are constantly filled with rubbish distractions!

[kblood]

Zen Buddhism seems to teach, in its own inscrutable way, that if you stop the desiring, you're there. But it's like anything, you notice that you're 'there' (in the zone, doing or not-doing ;) that thing) and suddenly you're not there any more! ...because you got in the way, or the world of concerns got in the way...

Moments of enlightenment are still real enlightenment, helping you to see why and how to get yourself out of the way in order to come back for longer and more often.

I'll have a look at the Middle Way... sounds oddly like Gurdjieff's 'Fourth Way'.

Cheers.

p.s. please don't think I'm a follower or advertiser of Mr. G (or his legacy of 'groups'). Although this stuff does go off in religious and 'bizarre' directions, it's also immensely practical and verifiably useful...

pps had a look at the link to the 'Middle Way', which is obviously not the same as the Fourth Way...

...the concept of emptiness is very interesting... we are constantly filled with rubbish distractions!

His fourth way might be a bit like that middle way. It goes:

The practice of non-extremism: a path of moderation away from the extremes of self-indulgence and self-mortification

And although I admit I did not really know what mortification means, I guessed right.

http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/10578b.htm

Well, at least most my English began with me reading quite a few books in English and guessing the words that I did not know, then after reading the same words in different context several times I could rule out some of my guesses and come spot on.

And not going into extreme mortification is to not only going for good habits. I actually did try that once, because I found out how much we might actually affect the universe and all that is around us, with thoughts alone. Quite a scary thought. But I came to realize that everything is not that easily influenced. But having only good habits I would alienate myself, which is why I instead just stick with drinking and smoking in moderation. I did smoke daily for 1½ year because I had a smoker living in my apartment. But I stopped again after he moved, and I am back to smoking only when I am out drinking.



But to get back on the subject of lucid dreaming, I believe that is how reality is as well. We are just indoctrinated to go along with it. In a dream, before it becomes lucid, we go along with it. Some things seem strange but in a dream it takes more than just a bit of strange for us to figure out it is a dream. Unless we prepared ourself for semi waking before going to sleep, it is unlikely we will even notice that it is a dream, and after the dream is over we are likely to forget it. My experience is that reality is the same way, but it takes a lot more to wake up from it. Probably because we want to be able to rationalize everything that happens in our life. If there is no logic to it, then how are we supposed to plan our own future if there are no certainties? So we enforce this reality as it is just like everyone else is.

I have had some dreams in the last few months that did not feel like they were just dreams. Like I could sense some of my friends and learn things about them that I did not know. I have not tested it though, so I guess it might just have been dreaming.

[passing]

The common ground between lucid dreaming (+ astral projection) and 'reality' is willpower, or The Will.

The more we are able to do what we intend, the more true and better directed our lives or experiences will be.

But first, we have to have a chosen intention. This can be very difficult, but in a sense I think it doesn't matter if it's arbitrary(!)... Choose the trumpet or cookery or veg-production (etc etc etc) and live for it...

...roughly speaking... ;)

[kblood]

The common ground between lucid dreaming (+ astral projection) and 'reality' is willpower, or The Will.

The more we are able to do what we intend, the more true and better directed our lives or experiences will be.

But first, we have to have a chosen intention. This can be very difficult, but in a sense I think it doesn't matter if it's arbitrary(!)... Choose the trumpet or cookery or veg-production (etc etc etc) and live for it...

...roughly speaking... ;)

I guess it is not always arbitrary. Some find out they enjoy soccer, more than other sports and focus on that. But I agree that it is usually about will it seems. If you go undecided about what you want in life, or maybe know what you want but do not really do anything to make it happen, then you are not really giving life a chance. In my opinion. But figuring out what you want and how to live life in a way that makes you feel for everything you do, that is not easy.

But I think the real barrier to break down is the preconceptions we have about life and how to live it. I think most people have not thought about what they could be doing for a living. I found that being a technical supporter at an ISP is working out well for me. I like what I am doing, and it is not that hard a job since I like to know how to fix computer problems anyway.

While doing this job I am beginning to save some money or at least do some more research into the NWO, this Lucid dreaming stuff, health and all these other things, and I am trying to find a way to make my own company of some kind. Become self employed doing something I enjoy. But it really needs to be something I believe in, because otherwise I would regret spending over 60 hours a week on it for a while, because that is probably the minimum time it will require in the first months or even year.

Getting what I want out of life is something I have succeeded in so far. I have not had high goals though, still it is nice that I have gotten most the education I was after and my future is still somewhat open to me. I am mostly undecided about whether my self employery will be about alternative life and promoting other ways of living, or juts some other kind of IT related company. Selling hardware or computers, giving tech support or developing games. Maybe even making homepages or web services.

I am hoping to mix it up a bit. Going into alternative stuff, medicine and that kind of thing, and make some flash games that will teach about it. Seems like a fun way to wake people up.

Still I am hoping to find some more answers about life first. Like have I just imagined a large part of my life? Too much of it has been too fantastic, but still my earlier attempts at disproving it only led me to more possibly imagined life. That is what if the people who saw it happen and I asked them about it, and they said yes it did happen? I have tried it before and they did, but what if that was imagined as well?

And disproving something is just about impossible, proving it is easier. And I am a bit scared that I am not imagining things, because then that raises even more questions about everything. Could be it made everything simpler, but I guess time will tell. These days I am just relaxing, researching a bit and trying to figure out what to do if I was to be self employed.

But if most my life is not imagined, then reality certainly seems like it is just another lucid dream, although unless we will it, it might not even be that lucid.

[passing]

...all sounds good :) ...except I think we had a little misunderstanding at the end/beginning of my/your last posts... what I meant was that finding a calling is so important that it almost doesn't matter what it is, so if you (not you, kblood, I mean a general you) can't decide what to do you might as well pick something and commit to it. All paths are a journey, but where are you going if you can't pick a path?

Cheers.

[kblood]

...all sounds good :) ...except I think we had a little misunderstanding at the end/beginning of my/your last posts... what I meant was that finding a calling is so important that it almost doesn't matter what it is, so if you (not you, kblood, I mean a general you) can't decide what to do you might as well pick something and commit to it. All paths are a journey, but where are you going if you can't pick a path?

Cheers.

Yea, I understood that, I just went into what I am doing, also to go into may way of trying to live by the middle way. Not doing anything excessively. Well, I guess when it comes to computers I might be.

And yes, if you can't pick a path you most likely are not going anyway, unless you are one of those people that just goes where the wind blows them, and just from having the right set of mind, everything just works out whatever happens. Well, that seems to be the case sometimes.

[passing]

unless you are one of those people that just goes where the wind blows them, and just from having the right set of mind, everything just works out whatever happens.

Oh, that would be great! I've met a couple... well, one at least...

[sentient being]

But if most my life is not imagined, then reality certainly seems like it is just another lucid dream, although unless we will it, it might not even be that lucid.



Indeed it's someone else's dream. Keep at perfecting lucid dreaming. Last night I almost became lucid. I saw weird objects flying in the sky, I've also had this dream a few times before. I asked someone to verify whether they saw it and was I dreaming. Arrrrgh I placed my trust/power/awareness on another dream character/part of me/? (the way I tend to do in the waking world?) and they said "no you're not, cause I seen it too".


Eeeeeeee. It's okay though, cause I know how I've not been diligent in my awareness during my waking hours and I've spent too much time on the inet and have heard a lot of this "fake alien invasion agenda" stuff. Wow the inet places things in the subconscious so quickly and easily.

So I encourage everyone to keep going. What has happened though, is I kept telling myself I would dream a certain something and lo and behold, it wasn't a lucid dream, but I did get something in the dream state upon close to awakening.

About 5 days later, the dream informaiton brought me something very valuable and oh so needed in my waking world. Yeeee Haaawww. I sure wish I could go in depth with it with all of you, however. I've thought about the aspect of how they use these forums to extract information out of us humans and then use it against us. So I don't want to share the intracacies of the dreams and I suggest you all don't either, especially if it is something that benefitted you in your waking world.

Share the success of your dreams, be it lucid or not, in order to encourage others to forge on. But be coy and scant in the details if you so desire.


This is just a small sample of what I'm dealing with:

*Psst* I can't be sure, but I don't think anyone cares. No use bumping a dead horse.


I was just trying to be helpful. You've bumped this thread I don't know how many times. You have sent the message out, it's up to others to take it or leave it. No use forcing it up their asses.

That's all you seem to do here anyways, advertise some new video. I think the Recommended viewing section would suit better.

Shove your videos up your own arse matey.



Still, I'm soooooo excited about what has happened, that I'm encouraged to give 1000% in the next 30 days to achieve 1000% more than what I gained from tje just 1 day of intense focusing.


Good luck to everyone. I'll be back with even greater success.


Love, Dignity and Respect to all!!

[ladygoogoo]

back in the 90s when lucid dreaming was becoming popular and I had some really intense dreams in general I set upon a course to work every night to develop lucid dreaming. For MONTHS I worked before going to bed using the techniques. Then one night I realized I was dreaming. I was so excited. The other dream beings were there and I said I am dreaming I am in control here. The other dream people looked at each other and burst out laughing at me. One said to the others "She thinks she is in charge here. That's hilarious!"
So that was the last time I did that. A very good therapist at the time told me that she did not agree with my methods. She felt dreams were very important and I should never try to control them. They were rich with meaning and symbolism. But that's my experience with it. I just let the dreams be weird and I wake up going um, ok that was odd. But I do find if you have a particularly disturbing dream when you are waking picture the dream image that was harassing you and demand a gift from him/her or threaten to kill it (gun, knife etc). That technique worked very well I find.

[whiterain]

back in the 90s when lucid dreaming was becoming popular and I had some really intense dreams in general I set upon a course to work every night to develop lucid dreaming. For MONTHS I worked before going to bed using the techniques. Then one night I realized I was dreaming. I was so excited. The other dream beings were there and I said I am dreaming I am in control here. The other dream people looked at each other and burst out laughing at me. One said to the others "She thinks she is in charge here. That's hilarious!"
So that was the last time I did that. A very good therapist at the time told me that she did not agree with my methods. She felt dreams were very important and I should never try to control them. They were rich with meaning and symbolism. But that's my experience with it. I just let the dreams be weird and I wake up going um, ok that was odd. But I do find if you have a particularly disturbing dream when you are waking picture the dream image that was harassing you and demand a gift from him/her or threaten to kill it (gun, knife etc). That technique worked very well I find.

shes not a good the rapist. if you learn to control them, you can sit their and pratically watch your subconscious. gives you a much greater insight into why you may have any issues that you need to sort out. also many people just have lucid dreams without even trying. is she really saying that if you find yourself in that position that you should not make use of it

[kblood]

Indeed it's someone else's dream. Keep at perfecting lucid dreaming. Last night I almost became lucid. I saw weird objects flying in the sky, I've also had this dream a few times before. I asked someone to verify whether they saw it and was I dreaming. Arrrrgh I placed my trust/power/awareness on another dream character/part of me/? (the way I tend to do in the waking world?) and they said "no you're not, cause I seen it too".

He he :) That is a bit ironic I guess, but then again probably closer to the truth than it should be. Would asking someone else when awake whether this is a dream be any better? :) Would they know if it is a dream?

We can't really know for sure if everyone around us has a soul, although I do believe we all have. But in theory they could just be part of some kind of hive mind. In a way I guess we all are.

But I often have that very same problem when I am awake. Asking friends if something I experienced really did happen and they confirm it, but afterwards I end up questioning whether I really did ask them or did I just imagine that? I think the truth about it is that something bad has happened in my life, and I do not want to believe it, so I might have created some fantasies and use them as an excuse to think I imagined all those other things.

Still does not help me much because my mind is seriously tricky. It all adds up too well, so hard to take some imagined part out without the puzzle not fitting that well together.

So I have stopped asking those questions, since no matter the answer they would just raise even more questions. So I try to find simpler truths to hold on to.

shes not a good the rapist. if you learn to control them, you can sit their and pratically watch your subconscious. gives you a much greater insight into why you may have any issues that you need to sort out. also many people just have lucid dreams without even trying. is she really saying that if you find yourself in that position that you should not make use of it

Agreed. I had lucid dreams as a child, and later I forgot all about it. Seemed strange to me at the time, but I was very thrilled. I even asked my mother if it was normal to have dreams where you could just do whatever you wanted? I do not really remember her answer though. I guess maybe I did not like it. But it was awesome every night before going to bed I could just try to figure out what fantasy to make real. I was quite good at it I think :) Today however it seems almost impossible to do, have not tried it for years. Might even be decades or at least those lucid dreams I have had, have been nothing compared to the ones I had.

And that therapist really sounds like a Christian I once met. If someone had the power to heal she would still claim it a power given by Satan and not to be used. Only God and Jesus can really heal... riiight. When exactly did Jesus say so?

My point is, lucid dreams can probably help people with whatever the subconscious is processing much better, since it will stop being suppressed subconsciousness. I remember having dreams I could not control completely, and I figure that it was the subconscious playing a trick on me for whatever reason. Even in lucid dreams I guess there are certain rules, even though it might be your own higher self setting them.

[sentient being]

He he :) That is a bit ironic I guess, but then again probably closer to the truth than it should be. Would asking someone else when awake whether this is a dream be any better? :) Would they know if it is a dream?



Actually it's a great thing if you are asking it to a person who is aware of your desire. It's not for us to count on them to answer whether it is a dream or not. It's just good practice to be able to say/question out loud. It's up to me to remember in our exchange that "No, I'm awake, but when I'm dreaming, I'm going to remember I'm dreaming and I'm going to stay calm and in control". What I was doing recently, while awake, is feeling anxious and scared/shy? of keeping on the topic for too long, that I would stop at the point where they would say "no you're not dreaming".

Don't know why. They're great new friends I'm met and are willing to explore "lucid dreaming" with me. I just need to relax and remember I'm around good people and to remember to state out loud that indeed "I will remember I"m dreaming when I"m dreaming and I will remember what I have to/desire to do".

So don't give up. It's good to speak aloud and more importantly to be consistent for about a week. Actually I should give a billion thanks for meeting these people and for them allowing me to speak about ld, while my own family would not.


I see where I went wrong/amiss and I can change that while awake.

Thanks KB.

[sentient being]

back in the 90s when lucid dreaming was becoming popular and I had some really intense dreams in general I set upon a course to work every night to develop lucid dreaming. For MONTHS I worked before going to bed using the techniques. Then one night I realized I was dreaming. I was so excited. The other dream beings were there and I said I am dreaming I am in control here. The other dream people looked at each other and burst out laughing at me. One said to the others "She thinks she is in charge here. That's hilarious!"
So that was the last time I did that. A very good therapist at the time told me that she did not agree with my methods. She felt dreams were very important and I should never try to control them. They were rich with meaning and symbolism. But that's my experience with it. I just let the dreams be weird and I wake up going um, ok that was odd. But I do find if you have a particularly disturbing dream when you are waking picture the dream image that was harassing you and demand a gift from him/her or threaten to kill it (gun, knife etc). That technique worked very well I find.




Wow. I really can't add anything more to the succint replies of Whiterain and KBlood, other than maybe this might be of use to you:



WHY TALK THERAPIES CANNOT HEAL:

Self-Awareness, Insight & Behavioral Change
vs.
Healing

By Chris Wright


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In personal and therapeutic growth everyone’s talking about healing these days. Books, articles, seminars and workshops all seem to include healing somewhere in the title -- healing the past, healing the inner child, healing your relationships, healing shame, healing co-dependency.

However, by reading these materials or participating in seminars and lecture series, going to support groups or working a program, or in talking with a therapist -- are we actually healing these past wounds? Actually not.

The dynamics involved in these activities, though useful and important in one’s personal growth, are focused on the dysfunctional symptoms. They do not reach or in any way resolve the original, repressed wounds or samskaras that underlie and give rise to the problems we face as adults. Let me explain.

Most of us would agree that what has led to our dysfunction as adults stems from experiences in childhood and birth. Death of a parent, divorce, sexual abuse, constant criticism and abuse from an over-dominating parent -- all leave obvious emotional "wounds" inside. But because children are so much more fragile and vulnerable, it does not take much stress to overwhelm their delicate neuromachinery.

There are thousands of subtle, covert ways children feel wounded, neglected or insecure growing up. Not measuring up to Mom or Dad's expectations, feeling that Mom or Dad loved your brother or sister more, feeling put down at the hands of other kids or teachers, that you're not lovable, or pretty, or smart enough. "You never do it right." "I don't have time." "What do you want now!" "No!" "Quit bothering me."

These experiences produce emotional tension inside. They hurt. They can trigger fear and anger, shame, unworthiness. These are feelings that can be too scary for a child to consciously experience and integrate to resolution. So what does the brain do to protect the child? It attempts to anesthetize the overload. It literally "gates" off the full conscious experience, leaving, as if, a scar of unprocessed emotional tension that lives on, buried deep inside, outside our conscious awareness

In fact, the original stressful feelings are buried so well that over time most of us actually don't even know if they are still there. We may be able to remember past events up "in our head," but the painful component of those memories are sequestered away in the subcortical brain systems. The result is that we are disconnected and effectively buffered from the accumulation of unresolved feelings that were registered in the system.

It is like aspirin ridding you of a headache. The aspirin heightens the gates that anesthetize you from the internal tension. The brain no longer "reads" the pressure that exists inside. And you can honestly say that there is no pain inside. For most of us, our repressive gating mechanisms are so effective in disconnecting us from internal, unresolved feelings that it can be very hard to believe that the charge is still there. We can't help but live in denial.

However, we sure can see the effects of these repressed feelings. We can feel the churning deep inside, robbing us of true inner peace. We also readily see it in wounded areas of our personality that we are hyper-sensitive or rigid about, where we seem to have a "charge" inside -- our "buttons" that keep getting pushed by others, and in the irrational fears and insecurities inside that limit us.

The underlying pressure of this unresolved tension drives in us distorted needs -- to overeat, smoke cigarettes, drink alcohol, take drugs, overwork, act-out sexually, or use co-dependent relationships to anesthetize the pain.

In traditional therapy we learn to counter these dysfunctional issues with new, healthier attitudes and behaviors. Armed with increased self-awareness and greater understanding we can learn to develop healthier ways of thinking and acting as an adult. "Utilizing the powerful concepts of family systems will help you gain the skills and hope needed to guide you to recovery from dysfunctional living," reads a typical therapy center's brochure. However, does increased understanding and insight into inner dynamics and changing our behaviors actually heal the original painful feelings that lie buried deep inside?

Unfortunately, repressed emotions are not resolved by learning new understandings. Otherwise, the universal answer to healing our insecurities and purifying our consciousness would be simply to read widely or even get a Ph.D. in psychology. We know, however, that regardless of your level of understanding or the sophistication of your beliefs, the underlying churning of these repressed feelings continues deep inside the brain.

You can readily see the affects of this reverberating stress in our bodies and in our health. We each have weakened spillways that collect the repressed emotional tension. For some it shows up in stomach problems, or bowel difficulties, headaches, back problems, insomnia, PMS, fatigue syndromes, a weakened respiratory system plagued with allergies or asthma, arthritis, TMJ, and all the other psychosomatic dis-eases. Just look in someone's medicine cabinet and you will see how their unresolved feelings have been somatized. (And look in their refrigerator to see how they currently attempt to anesthetize these feelings by the type of foods and drinks they consume.)



What Heals?

If increased understanding and making positive changes in one's behavior do not actually heal the original painful imprints, then what does? Certainly the nervous system must have natural, innate mechanisms for resolving inner stress. The system is designed to heal injuries and sickness which disturb its well-being. What would be the natural regulatory mechanisms for resolving stress and repressed emotional tension, thereby restoring our loving, spiritual wholeness?

Fortunately, healing is a very natural, human process. Simply look at a child who starts to be overwhelmed inside -- how does the child naturally and innocently respond? How does the system attempt to resolve the overload of stress? What does the child start to do? He or she begins to cry. Why? Why does anyone cry? What does crying serve to do? It is a release -- a natural resolution of inner stress. In fact, there is a biological imperative for the system to release stress in order to restore our inner balance. That's why when we reach a point inside where we can't hold it in, we begin to cry, or yell, or tremble and perspire. We become "emotional."

Unless, of course, you have learned to inhibit the release, and keep the emotional energy out of your consciousness. Most of us have been taught to suppress our emotions. We have been taught that expressing our feelings is a sign of weakness in a person. In reality, it is the other way around. These emotions when expressed within loving, safe processes actually cleanse you of what is weakening. They are positive biological healing mechanisms. Safely shared with persons you care about and love, they cleanse your inner wounds, free you of their crippling effects, and purify your consciousness and soul.

It is when you hold the toxic feelings inside that we see all the negativity and distortion show up in your personality, in your behaviors, and in your relationships. The more intense the unresolved anger you carry, the more negativity is expressed in your attitudes, judgments and acting-out behaviors. How could it be any other way? Think about it.

When you are sitting on angry, hurt feelings toward someone, they distort your spiritual values, your ability to love, your inner peace. Suppressed angry tension festers and putrefies inside producing hardened judgments, distrust, prejudice, hostility, even hate. Repressed fears eat away at your esteem and disturb your inner sense of security as a whole person.

These unresolved feelings may be forgotten on the surface, but the deep-rooted tension robs you of your natural ease and silence, your sense of joy and self-worth, your vitality and power, and the wondrous sense of challenge in life. Healing this repressed emotional tension buried inside is absolutely essential to purifying your spirit and restoring your wholeness.

"Healing" is in itself an innate, biological process. It doesn’t need to be learned. Nor does it involve learning or gaining any information. Simple, uneducated people can purify their hearts of pain, anger and toxic fear as effectively as the most erudite of psychological leaders. The healing process is not an intellectual exercise -- that if you could just figure something out or understand an underlying dynamic, then you would be healed. Rather, resolving repressed emotional tension is a psychobiological process of simply allowing the natural biological healing sequence to occur.

Some talk therapies teach that you can just "let go" of the repressed charge, the resentments, the pain. Get on with your life and forgive. Yes, you can create an understanding, "reframe" an event, or fortify yourself with beliefs that will rationalize away those feelings, making them less accessible inside. Research shows that gating mechanisms in the brain respond well and are bolstered by strong beliefs, insights and meaningful explanations. They serve to fortify our internal cognitive structure. But, like placebos, they are illusory. You have simply turned the radio dial to another station, where the brain no longer picks up the signal from the site of the repressed emotion. As with aspirin, you feel better. But you still remain a prisoner of the accumulated, unresolved feelings churning outside of your consciousness.

The unresolved feelings are registered down in the subcortical "feeling" areas of the brain. Healing involves neurologically connecting your conscious awareness to the site of the repressed feelings and fully integrate the charge to resolution. Allowing the toxic charged emotions into the light of Consciousness -- that’s the healing dynamic.

And when you open up the gates and allow hurt feelings from your past into your consciousness you will naturally begin to cry. Those tears, however, are the very tears that you needed to release at the time of the original event to resolve the experience, but couldn't. There simply was not a structure of safety to do so.

Just talking about the past events, telling the details of your story, will not do it. Staying up in your head, analyzing it all, writing the events down in your journal, figuring the dynamics out, gaining new awarenesses in the neocortex -- does not neurologically engage the repressed emotional tension originally imprinted subcortically in the brain. Even talking about your feelings doesn't do it. In therapy and in support groups you discuss your feelings, examine your feelings, understand your feelings, learn from your feelings. But do you "let go" into those feelings and fully re-live the original pain?

Most people do not allow themselves to experientially regress to the unresolved feelings of childhood in talk therapies or in groups. If you did connect to those stress-filled memories you would be filled with sobbing tears, instead of sharing about your sadness; you would be angrily storming at your offenders, not simply talking about your anger about what happened.

Discovering, clarifying and sharing about painful events actually serve to keep you from regressing to the original repressed emotional tension imprinted in your physiology.



What Makes It Safe to Heal?

Just as healing the accumulation of repressed emotional tension inside is a natural process, so is the process that provides in us the security to do so. The conditions that fortify us so that we feel secure enough to open up to those feelings is instinctual and natural to us as humans.

Let's assume that Terry is in a therapy session sharing about his father's death with his therapist, and he feels some tears well-up (the natural biological resolution of the stress). Even though the tears are starting to come out, you can see that he is holding back, that he is not letting himself “let go” into the feelings. And Terry knows that too. He feels the pain inside, but a part of him is alert to how much he allows up to experience. What would facilitate Terry to open up and regress to those repressed childhood feelings, and allow the healing to occur?

Actually, psychotherapists are not trained in graduate school to facilitate this process. Most therapists today serve as effective sounding boards and sensitive educators in providing important self-awareness, useful insight, and healthy behavioral changes in their clients. You sit over here and the therapist sits over there, and you have a conversation probing and problem solving about sensitive issues that you are confronting. The same is true in group therapy.

That can work fine for effective coaching and healthier learning. However, for healing to take place, for us to move out of our head and regress to the underlying, unresolved, original stressful feelings inside, we require new, more natural tools that are structured to provide much greater security.

But what about those people who are uncomfortable or afraid to experience certain feelings? Some people have learned in their family of origin that crying, or showing fear or anger were not tolerated. For some even laughter and having joy were inappropriate and brought painful consequences. So now as adults it may be very difficult and uncomfortable to let go into laughter, or tears, or anger.

And yet, these are all natural human needs which we must gently, safely rehabilitate in order to heal and become whole. Restoring our vulnerability and our freedom to feel, deepening our experience of intimacy inside our selves, and being able to share it safely with others is what it is to be human, to be fully alive.

http://primal-page.com/cwtalk.htm

[whiterain]

i used to do the reality check thing-asking whether im currently dreaming. ive stopped now though because i am dreaming and telling myself that im not cant be very useful :p:D

[sentient being]

i used to do the reality check thing-asking whether im currently dreaming. ive stopped now though because i am dreaming and telling myself that im not cant be very useful :p:D



Again, remember, after you acknowledge that you're not dreaming/you're awake, you must finish off with, "but I will remember I'm dreaming when I'm dreaming and I will remain calm and lucid and remember what I want to do". But then, I think you already knew that!;):)

So, do not give up. Remember the race or fun is still on, for one/many of us to bring back/manifest something from that realm into our waking world!!

[passing]

Again, remember, after you acknowledge that you're not dreaming/you're awake, you must finish off with, "but I will remember I'm dreaming when I'm dreaming and I will remain calm and lucid and remember what I want to do". But then, I think you already knew that!;):)

So, do not give up. Remember the race or fun is still on, for one/many of us to bring back/manifest something from that realm into our waking world!!

Yeah... it's interesting to me how my interest in this waxes and wanes - sometimes I'm almost obsessed with it, other times it's just a background idea... and results can come regardless (not that I've had many results, I'm still barely a toddler!)

[sentient being]

Yeah... it's interesting to me how my interest in this waxes and wanes - sometimes I'm almost obsessed with it, other times it's just a background idea... and results can come regardless (not that I've had many results, I'm still barely a toddler!)



Yeah, I feel like being obsessed/full of desire for it. I'm switching off now for a while, hoping to report back very soon with something magnificent and beautiful. Stick with it. It's more than worth it.

[sentient being]

last night i had a whole new incredible level of dream experience. i was meditating in bed, starting with some energy work then eventually focussing on the 3rd eye area. i slipped into the dream state which is unusual for me as dreams are usually at the end of the night. this time though i was immediately completely wide awake in the dream except it was so realistic that i had no idea it was a dream. i was at a party/bar and offered a go on someones peace pipe and accepted. ive taken 'salvia' in dreams before, and while its been good fun, it usually just enhances the dream or makes it a little bit more 'out there'. this time was completely new though.

i was instantly 100% completely tripping and floated up to the ceiling with some of my companions, as if surfing the crest of a rising wave in some kind of crowd surfing type feeling. after this things got a bit more random and i was transported instantly between completely different scenarios. at this stage i still had no idea i was asleep and it felt exactly as it would if i had been in a pretty deep trip.

i came to a more familiar setting yet it felt as if i was being messed with. what i mean is that everything around me was exactly the same as my local setting except things like pubs and signposts would have completely different names, so im stood there thinking wtf this looks like my park but how is there a completely similar place that exists somewhere else.

i started to get that whole cartoony lego flipbook effect of a trips visuals and was back on the crest of the crowd surfing wave. it felt a bit disconcerting as i felt like i was being observed as some kind of experiment. i felt like i was being shown scenes from my past while the observers gauged my reaction. this was worrying as i felt like i had no control over what i was to see. as i craved more familiarity, people i know kept popping in to say hello. this was so odd as i was convinced this was actually happening but had no idea how it could be possible that all these unrelated people from my past could be in the same place. this continued for a long while and i kept seeing past scenes and completely made up ones.

in the most clear of these scenes i was back in the changing room of the football team i used to play for as a kid. i must have been about 11ish. what struck me most was how real it felt and i was amazed (by now i was catching on it was a dream) at how i could remember the details like the shirts my teammates wore to training etc. it was here i got the biggest nudge to knock me lucid. when i do the third eye focussing i often get a bit of an eye crossing effect and it was a bit like this had been transferred over to my dream eyes. i had a panoramic view of the people in the room and as i scanned across them i realised that there were duplicate people, which felt part like i just had my eyes crossed and was seeing double, and part like they were actually there which of course struck me as odd and my awareness increased.

i floated back into the party area and became aware that parts of the dream were just repeating themselves as if the whole image was some kind of clockwork contraption that i could just navigate at will. i repeated the floaty up to the celing bit except this time we floated to close to a fan. it wasnt really anything to be afraid of though and we kind of pushed ourselves away from it. the feeling of floating was the main thing that reminded me i was free to explore the dream on my own and had no need to sit through the images i was being shown earlier however the uncontollable trip aspect kept reappearing. an ex appeared in front of me and i was so happy to see her that i started to cry but as soon as this happened i kind of split with the aspect of me that was crying and realised it was a different version of me that was feeling those emotions.

the whole thing was very remeniscent of the most positive aspects of a salvia trip, and although things like lucid and astral are just terms of description, this definately felt at times like it went beyond a dream and into nearly fully conscious projections. i didnt check how long it lasted in real time but the whole thing felt like a few hours more than it ever could have been. it often had the reality and control of a fully lucid dream but at times had the abstract nature and alien dimensions of a full astral trip.

if i could only work on the little gap of lost consciousness between meditating and falling asleep then i would be the happiest person alive and all the fear i still feel will melt away. i stayed awake for a short while to try to cement the memories, then returned to sleep, which this time was lacking on the abstract lucid nature of the previous dream but still was a full on party for at least as long as the physical time duration i was asleep for. it was also about the 3rd dream ive had in the past couple of months where ive actually uttered the phrase 'this is the best party ive ever been to'. the party dreams are the most common ones at the moment, yet usually arent lucid because firstly they are so real that its nearly impossible to find a dream marker to nudge you into lucidity and frankly im usually having such a good time that i dont want to look for a marker as i dont want anything about the experience to change.



the main thing i think i can take from it is how it showed me repeatedly the extremely subtle differences between being in an uncontollable state of fear while feeling that other people are controlling your dream thoughts, and the absolute freedom and bliss that is literally just a tiny change in awareness away. i must have switched between these states a good 10 or so times, and while it didnt give me the key to making every future event a positive one, it has definately given me far more confidence to have a go at facing my fear with things like salvia etc



edit: i think i just remembered a bit of the transition into the dream. i was starring up at my lightshade through half closed eyes trying to visualise it as the moon. there was definately a point in the dream where i just went 'shit its the moon, its really there'. whether this was at the very start its hard to say, although many hypnagogic images ive had in the past at the beginning of dreams have been circular things like moons, cogs, wheels lights etc



I enjoyed reading this again, while I was looking for the post about "rubbing hands together to maintain lucidity"

Thanks for sharing and PARTY ON!!

[sentient being]

Well hot diggity dog. I last posted about two days ago and geuss what? Yeee Haww.


I was reflecting on oh so many things and indeed how this computer does keep one in a perpetual open/dazed state. What am I doing filling my mind with all these topics over and over again. Going to bed dreaming of Masons and bull crap. What substantial good has it done me? I've become addicted to crap, playing right into "The Borg Agenda".

So I decided to bring myself back to full consciousness by staying off of it and just saturating myself with my own thoughts. I kept hearing the words from Honor's "The Borg Agenda" - "Resistance Is Futile". I thought oh no, it's absolutely necessary.

Wake up SB. This ain't no joke. It's like a wickedness ever so subtley sucking up souls.

I've been going through the process of clearing out a mountain of suppressed emotions and have been feeling the feelings and releasing it through crying it out. Yesterday, for some reason the word "Remember" came to mind and I just kept telling myself this over and over again. Sure enough, memories that I never even thought exsisted came to the surface and I purged and purged. Friends called and I thought no way. For the next 3 weeks, I'm going to stay focused on just me and my desires/thoughts. I'm thinking clearer and my desire and inner strength is being felt once again. Even if it's ever so subtle.

This morning I got up once again in pain, yet I cleaned up spic and span and was going for more gold. Suprisingly, quite easily I did 20 minutes of Yoga. I released some more suppressed emotions and came upon a block where I couldn't cry. I raced through the memories I had uncovered and still no tears a coming. However, that big ball of emotions/rage was still weighing me down in my tummy and I felt frustrated, thinking how will I ever get it out, will I ever feel love again and indeed that is what I wanted to feel.

I couldn't move the emotions, so I thought maybe if I lay down I might fall asleep and get lucid and hopefully thoroughly heal while in that state, or hidden pain would surface and I could clear another layer.

I laid down and kept repeating "Remember". Indeed the pain started to be felt, this time saturaing every fibre of my being. I could hardly breath, but I had been through this a few times before but didn't stick with it. Excrutiating pain. But I remembered reading somewhere, do not move, don't fall asleep, stay conscious, don't think, just feel. Oh it was horror. Surely I was geting off the planet now. It kept going, all the self hate and beatings of a lifetime being felt. I wanted to get up and run.

Where was I going to run to? Over to a friends to put on a false face while holding down the emotions, like ever other soul on the planet? No. Stay with it , it will change. Whenever the pain gets like you can't take any more, that means you're ever so close to relief. So I stayed, every fibre of my being, burning, hurting, searing pain. (Wow, this is what I've been suppressing over a lifetime? No wonder there's been so many horrific experiences. It's a wonder I'm still alive, it's a wonder anyone is still alive.) Eventually after what felt like a lifetime, I began to breathe a little more, a little more and then indeed the pain changed/transformed. I could breathe and my body felt good. Ahhhh, I felt better about myself, finally, success.

Imagine had I given up, I would have walked around for more days, months, years? with the discomfort. They say once it is processed, it is gone forever. So good riddance to that bit. I didn't time it, but I think it must have been about 45-60 minutes, maybe less, of just feeling, no thinking. Well worth it.

So then, I rolled over and still felt pain in my right knee. So I thought hey, I'll just go through the process for this pain. I felt good and strong and in control. So I tried to stay focus, yet I fell asleep.

I can't quite recall now how the dream began, but I and a group of comrades??? were being chased in a dark tunnel. We came upon a big garage like door. I recall thinking, I know this door, but it's changed and there's no way out. Then you know how dreams are. I could see a window in the huge door and there were people coming in with big swords and I thought oh no. I ran back to see another way out, however, I met up with them coming in an entrance. I tried to pretend I was not against them? as they were going to fight the ones we were fighting. I turned around and saw all these opulent pieces of furniture, the type I like, but they were broken and poorly stacked togeter. I thought I still could take a few of these pieces for my bedroom. Ah Helllooooo, I'm in the middle of a fearful situation and I'm still thinking about opulence?

All of a sudden there was this guy behind me, I think from the enemy camp and he was being very sexually forward. He told me to go to the bedroom he would be joining me there soon. I felt very frightened, thinking/knowing he was going to treat me very well. So I with my other comrades/partners pretended to go up the hall, all the while looking for an escape route.

All of a sudden I saw a window to the left and two of us made our way there. I jumped up on the ledge to jump through the window. All of a sudden I looked to my right to see my partner had changed into a beautiful brown bird, the size of maybe a pidgeon and flew out. I thought yeah, great idea.

As I jumped, I began to get lucid and I imagined I was flying downward to a soft landing. Upon landing I became fully lucid. I thought wow, yes, I'm dreaming. The surroundings were dark and there was an opening through a huge castle like stone wall. I thought, do I want to continue with this? No. I remembered what I wanted to accomplish while lucid, but I also felt a slight pang of pain, then I also felt oh so so happy and I wanted to have big fun. So I did a back flip, like the gymnists do. Upon one complete flip I landed upright, but began to loose lucidity. I thought oh no, and I began to rub my hands together.

Sure enough. The dream continued/changed to where I was on top of a hill? The sun was shining gloriously and I was intent on staying lucid. I began to run with joy, still thinking to remember to stay in the dream. All of a sudden I saw Carol Burnett and I said "Hi Carol". Then I turned to my left and I saw Lucille Ball and said "Hi Lucy". I was happy and then did a cartwheel down the hill. As I glanced back up the hill, I began to loose lucidity. I then began furiously rubbing my hands together all to no avail. Duh??? Carol and Lucy? Oh what a joke. Why? I know I do love Carol Burnett and my brother loved Lucille Ball. But hey? I've got more important things to do in the lucid realm!!!! Again, I didn' stay aware enough to ask these characters what they were doing in my dreams and what they meant. However I did have a beautiful regular dream the night before about a brother I was having harsh feelings with. Arrrrrgggghhhh.

But hey, I'm still oh so thankful, at least I learned from this experience and with enough time focusing on just my thoughts and my life, I will indeed perfect lucid dreaming.

Oh so so much more I want to touch on, but then, I geuss that's for me to really think about, until I can properly articluate what I'm feeling.


Wow only in two days. I feel happy. Now. I am going to remember the next time I become lucid, the very first thing I must do, is be still and feel great joy through every fibre of my being first, before cavorting around, dare I say mindlessly? Oh but, as many of you well know. The joy, the thrill, the absoloute magnificenr ecstacy of lucidity is something that just begs for tasting ever so deeply as soon as one touches it.

Hopefully I'll have somehing perhaps a little more meaningful? or I'll create something while in that realm to manifest in waking reality. After all, I do oh so desire to be the 1st to do it, but I truly don't mind if one of you's beats me to it.:)

All I can say, is stick with it everyone. I will check back in soon, or even sooner to post another beautiful experience and to read of everyones lucid dreams.


My Love To All
and
Get Get Lucid



PS. I've found using the words "I'm going to....." as opposed to "I will" to have had more of an impact for me. Just me. Also, for anyone else who may be going through what I am, I've posted the following article.

Again, much love.

[sentient being]

This probably won't have much relevance to many (thankfully), but to those who grew up with mental, emotional and physical abuse, don't loose heart. We are going to make it through this!



The Dance of Spirit & Soul
Or The Power to Create Your Reality


What's on this page?

Reclaiming Our Divinity
The Creative Machinery
The Soul Provides the Fuel
The Problem
How Can We Fix It?
The Temporary Dance
The Future Dance





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WHAT ARE WE TRULY AFTER?

For most people emotional healing starts with a desire to merely be free of pain. For many of us that's as far as we can get. Just let the pain stop, please!

But beyond stopping the pain is a deeper desire, and a deeper motivation, a stronger reason to commit to emotional healing.


We desire to reclaim our birthright.
We desire to reclaim our divinity.
We DESIRE to create.


At our deepest core we want, not just the ability to make new decisions and have true freedom of response, but the ability - the power - to create our reality anew, moment by moment, based on how we feel, and not on eons of frozen judgments and backlogged emotion.


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WHERE IS THE POWER?

The Dynamic Heart

Within each of us is powerful machinery. (I say machinery, although this energy is not mechanical. But this imagery will work for the moment.) This machinery listens to our every feeling, every thought, and has the power to outpicture every image, every desire. It magnetizes our world, drawing to us things and people and situations. It creates new forms out of the ether and dust, it has the power to generate virtually anything we can imagine.

Why then, is every day a struggle to survive? Why is life a moment by moment ever-striving to earn the precious dollar to buy the precious fuel to feed our faces and have a roof over our heads?

What goes wrong with the machinery, that we are outpicturing such limiting, compressed, victim-filled realities?

The good news is, the machinery is working fine. There's nothing wrong with the machinery. It is doing its job. It is simply acting on what is being fed into it. It responds to thoughts and images and strong feelings by producing a magnetic field, a thought form, a reality. It draws things into reality and holds them there, based on the strength of the emotion involved. And that's all it does. That is its only job, and it does that job non-stop, 24 hours a day. It doesn't judge whether the thoughts and images and feelings are good or bad, it doesn't judge whether the reality it is producing is good or bad. It simply reproduces, on a large scale, what is being fed into it by our spirit (mind) and soul (emotions).

The problem is not that the machinery is doing a bad job. The problem is we have not understood how the machinery works. We have consistently tried to reprogram the machinery as if it were a computer that could just be told what we want. We have used positive thinking, affirmations, meditations, rituals, formal judgment release, goal setting, etc., etc. - in other words, we have been using primarily mental tools on a primarily emotional system - without taking into account HOW THE MACHINERY WORKS, or what other sources of input the machinery might be receiving behind our conscious awareness.

Even those who have discovered that the machinery responds better to imaging and sound and feeling have tried to reprogram it from a primarily mental place, resisting the knowledge that the TRUE go-juice is emotion.


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THE SOUL PROVIDES THE FUEL

Emotional GO-Juice

Creative power isn't a function of the mind. It isn't a function of the spirit. True creative POWER comes from the Will, the Soul, the Emotional Body.

Within the realm of the soul is the creative juice and magnetic power to draw your reality together inch by inch, cell by cell, and hold it together as long as your desire gives it fuel. It is the emotion, the strong desires and imagery, that is the true creative go-juice.

The mind can give structure and deliniation to our creations. Mind can drive the car. But it is the soul that provides the gas, that feeds the furnace of our creative machinery and gives the emotional fuel needed to really get things happening. The mind has been given sole credit for this creative ability. But when the visions of the mind fail to produce any lasting change in our reality, where do we begin to look for answers?

What is going wrong?




WHAT'S THE PROBLEM?

The mind has not understood the true creative power of the emotions, and has not wanted to share the seat of power. In the past, mind has blamed the emotions for its failure to hold together the reality it wanted, as if the emotions were working against mind's attempts to create. Mind has believed the emotions were a "lower" vibration and needed to be molded or disciplined into submission. Mind has consistently tried to suppress the power of desire that should be flowing from body through the soul like a living flame.

Unfortunately, one cannot force emotions into submission. There is great power there, even in a state of denial, even heavily judged and cast out, and that power cannot be ignored. Mind must step down now, mind must realize that its role in creating our reality is as participant and assistant, not as tyrant or ruler.

Misunderstandings about how the machinery works, and about the nature of emotions themselves, have worked to keep us in chains for long enough. Changing these wrong beliefs and healing ourselves enough to truly begin the Divine Dance is the task we are given now in the times to come.

We have been blind to the enormous amount of emotional backlog that the soul holds that needs healing. Think about how much pain is accumulated in a single lifetime. All that pain -- judged, suppressed, unexpressed, unaccepted, shoved aside, shoved OUT -- has not really gone anywhere. It is attached to us by a silver rubber band, and it feeds the machinery of our Dynamic Heart whether we are conscious of it or not, whether we want it to or not. We cannot just "get rid" of all this backlog of emotion. The farther away we think we are from our pain, the harder the backlog will hit us when the rubber band finally snaps back.

THAT is what is being fed into our machinery, without our conscious knowledge, day after day, 24-7. THAT is what is creating our current reality.

Without the understanding that this backlog can be healed, and how it can be healed, mind concluded wrongly that the emotions were unhealable little tyrants, refusing to "get with the program", and working devilishly to subvert mind's creations.

Listen up, mind! Emotions can heal! They are not the demons you have believed for so long. But you must let go of your judgments and assumptions. Emotions do not work like the mind does. What emotions need to do to heal is completely different from mind. And mind cannot dictate this, or change it, or make it be any different just by wanting it to be so. It's time for this enforced slavery of the emotions to end.

The greatest misunderstandings of this creative process stem from the dislike, blame, and even hatred, the mind has for the emotional side of the universe.

If we want to reclaim our power and be able to create the reality we really want, we must commit to healing our emotional body, to reclaiming all our lost essence. We must respect the power of the Soul, and the rights of the emotions to heal the way they were meant to. We must lift the restrictions and judgments that have lain so heavy on the emotions for so long. We must bring spirit and soul back into balance.

Added to these misunderstandings, and making our situation MUCH worse, is that a great majority of us have forgotten or denied that we have a Dynamic Heart at all. We sink into perpetual victimhood, believing that we are powerless in our own lives - a belief that is constantly reinforced by living under the web of lies and lifetime after lifetime of being victimized by those who want to harvest and use the power of this creative, magnetic energy.

The essence we don't have with us, the emotional essence we have denied (or suppressed or cast out) is being used as food and fuel for the Gamers and Sharks. And the empty places within us where the missing essence should be is an opening for the Gamers to fill with lies. They use our soul and give us false feelings in place of our own missing essence. Likewise, they fill in gaps in our minds and provide us with a false consciousness that is tyrant and critical mind.

This means that all of us are living confused and blind, believing in a reality created by our own denied pain, made more confused and complicated by lies and manipulations fed into our machinery by the Gamers.

How can we remove the confusion and the lies and reclaim our ability to create our own reality?



HOW CAN WE FIX IT?

We can make changes to our reality on a temporary basis by diligent use of the mental tools. I have seen them work, I know it's true. Goal setting and positive affirmations will work, on a limited basis. Don't be fooled, however, by small gains. Don't be fooled into thinking that's all there is to it. After a period of time, your reality will revert back to whatever is being held in your sub/unconscious, within the deep pools of hidden, buried, long-ignored and forgotten painful emotions.

The Temporary Dance

A word is a powerful thing. It can carry and empower the juice of the emotion, or it can limit and suppress and judge. Be careful what words you use, be careful how you contain and limit yourself by your words. Our minds have become accustomed to dominating our feelings. We constantly define our emotional reality with judgmental words, instead of listening with our mind/spirit to what the soul/emotions have to say. We are badly out of balance, as a planet.

Those who would keep us in a state of slavery don't want us to remember our own creative machinery. They certainly don't want us to begin to heal our emotional bodies, or reclaim lost essence that they are feeding on!

But that is the path to our own freedom. And thankfully, it is within our power, now, today. It's not magic, and it doesn't require great wisdom. You don't have to read all the books ever written, or learn complicated techniques. You don't have to pay enormous amounts of money to a guru or therapist. Even the smallest, most beaten down, most helpless and victimized essence can cry. Even the most mental, in-denial, terrified-of-pain essence can cry. The ability to heal ourselves is within our bodies. We are born with it, by some great miraculous gift. If every adult could tap into what their body knew as an infant, the planetary healing would be swift and magical.

This is your mission, should you choose to accept it. To find and heal every ounce of yourself, to bring acceptance to each and every hidden or lost part, allow each and every part to cry and remember and ... to bring your Spirit and Soul into balance. To reclaim your power to create your own reality.

For a period of time it will be necessary to learn to do the dance between soul and spirit with emphasis and focus on healing the soul. That doesn't mean spirit or mind should be neglected. Balance is the key. But for periods of time, we will need to swim deeply in the oceans of emotion and allow them to speak and cry all that they have been holding.


The dance, for today, might look something like this:


1) Want Something. There is something you want. Something you want to have or do or be. It may be something small, or something large. The important thing is that you WANT it. There is desire or need.

2) Picture yourself having/doing the thing you want. Imagine it as if it were real, now, today. Bring to this image all the desire you feel for it, and let yourself imagine the joy not only of having this thing, but of being able to manifest it.

3) Feel whatever you feel. This won't be easy. The natural result of the mind picturing something good, something that is desired, will be to "trigger" all the things in the basement that are contrary to this image or desire.


You may feel

unworthy of having it
enraged at or jealous of others who have it
despairing of ever being able to have it
powerless
afraid of having it
afraid of being punished for wanting it
afraid of being punished for trying to get it

You get the idea. Whatever feelings surface as a result of your imaginings, let them surface. DO NOT TRY TO CORRECT THEM OR CHANGE THEM. Let the feelings express as deeply and as thoroughly as you can. This may take some time. It may need to be done in bits and spurts, in baby steps. And that's perfectly alright.

You may find that you can cry through a layer of pain and then you reach a plateau where you feel unable to dig deeper. This may be time to pull some of the tools for overcoming resistance out of your hat, or perhaps it's time to try another mental tool.

4) Release Jugdments. Perhaps you find that one of the things keeping you in place is a belief. You may need to spend some time concentrating on the judgments at this point. Formal judgment release may be simply an affirmation that goes contrary to the belief you're holding. For instance, a belief that you are unworthy can be countered by affirming, "I AM worthy, I deserve abundance (power, love, etc. etc.)".

5) Feel What You Feel. Once again, doing this task will trigger old pain. Let the feelings surface, whatever they are, without stoppering or judging or questioning. Let yourself cry deeply as much as you can.

6) Re-evaluate Your Desire / Reality. Once you've moved a big chunk of old pain, your soul has new openings and softenings, and frozen places become warm and alive again. You may find NEW desires awakening. The thing you desired at the start of the Dance may not seem so desireable anymore. You may find yourself abandoning one project and moving on to a new goal. This is an integral part of the dance!

The truth is, we can't know fully what we desire until we have all of our parts back with us, unfrozen and healed. So for the time being, this process will be one of ... activating desire with the purpose of triggering old stuff, letting the old stuff cry through to full healing, and then activating more/new desire, getting triggered, releasing the judgments in the way, trying again, pushing forward, never giving up, but always always always the focus is to find all the hidden and dark places where pain is trapped or forgotten or frozen. Bring it all to healing and light. And THEN we can really know what we really want. THEN the real dance can begin.






THE DANCE

The Dance of Spirit and Soul

Our Creative Heart is meant to manifest the result of the dance between our mind and our emotions. This dance was meant to be a balanced back-and-forth dance of love and respect, each side giving of its talents and essence, and feeding equally into the little-God machinery that we ARE... creating forms and realities of our own making.

Since this dance has never been performed properly or with balance, it's impossible to predict what we are capable of. Until we fully heal our emotional body and bring our Spirit and Will into balance, we can only get a glimpse of the possibilities.

Think of it...

The Soul feels a nameless, formless desire, a wanting without a name. It aches within her, a hunger. The Spirit feels her desire, responds to her, listens to her. She reveals all her feelings to him, expressing and showing him images of her innermost self.

Spirit responds with love, embracing and surging with her, filling all her nooks and crannies with light and helping her to help him to understand. He gives words to her formless aching. The nameless thing now has a name, a word. It exists in linear space and time, within a container of light.

With a name given to her Desire, if it pleases her, the Soul surges forth and fills the form with more emotion, more desire. Her golden light and his white light combine, form and structure filled with strong emotion and brilliant colorful imagery are fed into the creative manifestation machinery.... and something new comes into being.

Without the structure and light, creations are produced that are chaotic, hard to understand, hard to see, slow moving and dark. Without the emotion and desire, creations are produced that are rigid, colorless, without life or fire, creations that form and then fall apart, without the magnetic energy needed to hold them together.

Both Spirit and Soul are needed in this glorious dance. It is the creative dance of the Great Joining, and it is an altogether divine thing.




http://www.cyquest.com/pathway/create_reality.html

[sentient being]

Well hot diggity dog. I last posted about two days ago and geuss what? Yeee Haww.


I was reflecting on oh so many things and indeed how this computer does keep one in a perpetual open/dazed state. What am I doing filling my mind with all these topics over and over again. Going to bed dreaming of Masons and bull crap. What substantial good has it done me? I've become addicted to crap, playing right into "The Borg Agenda".

So I decided to bring myself back to full consciousness by staying off of it and just saturating myself with my own thoughts. I kept hearing the words from Honor's "The Borg Agenda" - "Resistance Is Futile". I thought oh no, it's absolutely necessary.

Wake up SB. This ain't no joke. It's like a wickedness ever so subtley sucking up souls.

I've been going through the process of clearing out a mountain of suppressed emotions and have been feeling the feelings and releasing it through crying it out. Yesterday, for some reason the word "Remember" came to mind and I just kept telling myself this over and over again. Sure enough, memories that I never even thought exsisted came to the surface and I purged and purged. Friends called and I thought no way. For the next 3 weeks, I'm going to stay focused on just me and my desires/thoughts. I'm thinking clearer and my desire and inner strength is being felt once again. Even if it's ever so subtle.

This morning I got up once again in pain, yet I cleaned up spic and span and was going for more gold. Suprisingly, quite easily I did 20 minutes of Yoga. I released some more suppressed emotions and came upon a block where I couldn't cry. I raced through the memories I had uncovered and still no tears a coming. However, that big ball of emotions/rage was still weighing me down in my tummy and I felt frustrated, thinking how will I ever get it out, will I ever feel love again and indeed that is what I wanted to feel.

I couldn't move the emotions, so I thought maybe if I lay down I might fall asleep and get lucid and hopefully thoroughly heal while in that state, or hidden pain would surface and I could clear another layer.

I laid down and kept repeating "Remember". Indeed the pain started to be felt, this time saturaing every fibre of my being. I could hardly breath, but I had been through this a few times before but didn't stick with it. Excrutiating pain. But I remembered reading somewhere, do not move, don't fall asleep, stay conscious, don't think, just feel. Oh it was horror. Surely I was geting off the planet now. It kept going, all the self hate and beatings of a lifetime being felt. I wanted to get up and run.

Where was I going to run to? Over to a friends to put on a false face while holding down the emotions, like ever other soul on the planet? No. Stay with it , it will change. Whenever the pain gets like you can't take any more, that means you're ever so close to relief. So I stayed, every fibre of my being, burning, hurting, searing pain. (Wow, this is what I've been suppressing over a lifetime? No wonder there's been so many horrific experiences. It's a wonder I'm still alive, it's a wonder anyone is still alive.) Eventually after what felt like a lifetime, I began to breathe a little more, a little more and then indeed the pain changed/transformed. I could breathe and my body felt good. Ahhhh, I felt better about myself, finally, success.

Imagine had I given up, I would have walked around for more days, months, years? with the discomfort. They say once it is processed, it is gone forever. So good riddance to that bit. I didn't time it, but I think it must have been about 45-60 minutes, maybe less, of just feeling, no thinking. Well worth it.

So then, I rolled over and still felt pain in my right knee. So I thought hey, I'll just go through the process for this pain. I felt good and strong and in control. So I tried to stay focus, yet I fell asleep.

I can't quite recall now how the dream began, but I and a group of comrades??? were being chased in a dark tunnel. We came upon a big garage like door. I recall thinking, I know this door, but it's changed and there's no way out. Then you know how dreams are. I could see a window in the huge door and there were people coming in with big swords and I thought oh no. I ran back to see another way out, however, I met up with them coming in an entrance. I tried to pretend I was not against them? as they were going to fight the ones we were fighting. I turned around and saw all these opulent pieces of furniture, the type I like, but they were broken and poorly stacked togeter. I thought I still could take a few of these pieces for my bedroom. Ah Helllooooo, I'm in the middle of a fearful situation and I'm still thinking about opulence?

All of a sudden there was this guy behind me, I think from the enemy camp and he was being very sexually forward. He told me to go to the bedroom he would be joining me there soon. I felt very frightened, thinking/knowing he was going to treat me very well. So I with my other comrades/partners pretended to go up the hall, all the while looking for an escape route.

All of a sudden I saw a window to the left and two of us made our way there. I jumped up on the ledge to jump through the window. All of a sudden I looked to my right to see my partner had changed into a beautiful brown bird, the size of maybe a pidgeon and flew out. I thought yeah, great idea.

As I jumped, I began to get lucid and I imagined I was flying downward to a soft landing. Upon landing I became fully lucid. I thought wow, yes, I'm dreaming. The surroundings were dark and there was an opening through a huge castle like stone wall. I thought, do I want to continue with this? No. I remembered what I wanted to accomplish while lucid, but I also felt a slight pang of pain, then I also felt oh so so happy and I wanted to have big fun. So I did a back flip, like the gymnists do. Upon one complete flip I landed upright, but began to loose lucidity. I thought oh no, and I began to rub my hands together.

Sure enough. The dream continued/changed to where I was on top of a hill? The sun was shining gloriously and I was intent on staying lucid. I began to run with joy, still thinking to remember to stay in the dream. All of a sudden I saw Carol Burnett and I said "Hi Carol". Then I turned to my left and I saw Lucille Ball and said "Hi Lucy". I was happy and then did a cartwheel down the hill. As I glanced back up the hill, I began to loose lucidity. I then began furiously rubbing my hands together all to no avail. Duh??? Carol and Lucy? Oh what a joke. Why? I know I do love Carol Burnett and my brother loved Lucille Ball. But hey? I've got more important things to do in the lucid realm!!!! Again, I didn' stay aware enough to ask these characters what they were doing in my dreams and what they meant. However I did have a beautiful regular dream the night before about a brother I was having harsh feelings with. Arrrrrgggghhhh.

But hey, I'm still oh so thankful, at least I learned from this experience and with enough time focusing on just my thoughts and my life, I will indeed perfect lucid dreaming.

Oh so so much more I want to touch on, but then, I geuss that's for me to really think about, until I can properly articluate what I'm feeling.


Wow only in two days. I feel happy. Now. I am going to remember the next time I become lucid, the very first thing I must do, is be still and feel great joy through every fibre of my being first, before cavorting around, dare I say mindlessly? Oh but, as many of you well know. The joy, the thrill, the absoloute magnificenr ecstacy of lucidity is something that just begs for tasting ever so deeply as soon as one touches it.

Hopefully I'll have somehing perhaps a little more meaningful? or I'll create something while in that realm to manifest in waking reality. After all, I do oh so desire to be the 1st to do it, but I truly don't mind if one of you's beats me to it.:)

All I can say, is stick with it everyone. I will check back in soon, or even sooner to post another beautiful experience and to read of everyones lucid dreams.


My Love To All
and
Get Get Lucid



PS. I've found using the words "I'm going to....." as opposed to "I will" to have had more of an impact for me. Just me. Also, for anyone else who may be going through what I am, I've posted the following article.

Again, much love.



Nothing as yet. Sniffle Sniffle;) But I shall return with the goodies.:)

[sentient being]

Okay, Okay, I'm working on it. ;):)

[whiterain]

HI sb always good to have a read back of this good info. i even saw some people in a dream the other night keeping dream diarys- something ive never got round to putting to paper yet, but i guess i use this thread for the main ones.

anyway last night the fields by my house turned into the scottish highlands except they were full of ruined temples. i was getting a tour floating around and literally crying at how beautiful it was

[sentient being]

HI sb always good to have a read back of this good info. i even saw some people in a dream the other night keeping dream diarys- something ive never got round to putting to paper yet, but i guess i use this thread for the main ones.

anyway last night the fields by my house turned into the scottish highlands except they were full of ruined temples. i was getting a tour floating around and literally crying at how beautiful it was



Truly touching whiterain. Please do compare and share your waking experiences in the next little while, if you feel comfortable. If this is how beautiful your non lucid dream was, I greatly look forward to hearing of your lucid ones.

Thanks very much.

[whiterain]

hmm well the lucidity is sketchy at best at the mo. its like i have many more short moments of lucidity in dreams, yet fewer long fully lucid storys.

the last dream was amazing though. i was looking off my roof and it was just incredible to see how the things that my mind knows would normally be there, were all there just in a far grander form

[whiterain]

i took my dad to a lucid dreaming class last night.. in a dream.. it was good. lots of tips

[starshine]

A great post.:)

[sentient being]

A great post.:)



Yeah, it's a beauty:D Glad you enjoyed. Thanks.

[lauren_almighty]

Tried something last week. Been having rough nights where I wake up about 3 am. Anyway I was determined this time to get back to sleep, but couldnt. So I was tossing and turning and it ws 4.30 and I suddenly decided to "remember" my dreams from when I first fell asleep. By suddenly doing this and not "forcing" it, I suddenly found my self back in this dream but being aware I was the dreamer. It was wierd. I have had lucid experiences before, but this was so easy.I went back into the dream and could control everything if I wanted, but I decided to "let things roll" and it was so gentle and non violent I couldnt believe it. I awoke about 20 minutes later and did the process all over again,and unbeliveably, I did it again!. Since then I have been truly tired by bedtime and have slept like the dead, so I havent tried it again.

This process, which I am going to try again, is like , in your mind a train is moving along the track and you want to get on. For a short time, as you run along side the train, you are concentarting on the train alone....noting and anticipating when you jump aboard. But it is your previous dream you are looking at and eventually you find yourself "on the train" so to speak, but totally aware of yourself and the fact that it is YOUR DREAM and therefore open to your will.

Cant explain it any clearer.I awoke about 1 hour later, feeling so refreshed and with the images so clear in my head. Went to work and felt great all day.

I think I am on to something.....not sure what it is yet:rolleyes:

This is how I do it aswell. I don't even have to try, it just happens so easily to me. The first time I did it I wasn't even attempting lucid dreaming, it just happened! They are some of the best dreams I've ever had.

[whiterain]

i heard that spinning in a lucid dream helps sustain it. that night i saw two purple crow/ibis type birds fly past and just knew i had to be dreaming. i took off after them in a big corkscrew which definately helped and was a lot of fun on its own. now if i could only manage to actually sit still in a dream for only a second...

[energi]

I don't do RC's, I just go to sleep with the intention of LD'ing and it works 9/10 times so far. :D

[energi]

i heard that spinning in a lucid dream helps sustain it. that night i saw two purple crow/ibis type birds fly past and just knew i had to be dreaming. i took off after them in a big corkscrew which definately helped and was a lot of fun on its own. now if i could only manage to actually sit still in a dream for only a second...

Spinning and rubbing your hands (sense of gravity/physics + sense of touch) are great ways to stay in your dream, should you ever begin to lose connection with it.

[whiterain]

Spinning and rubbing your hands (sense of gravity/physics + sense of touch) are great ways to stay in your dream, should you ever begin to lose connection with it.

yeah its really developed now into a great flying technique. just run towards something like a tree/lampost, then jump and grab onto it so that you swing round it then propel yourself like a wind up toy into the air. amazing. cheers the hand tip is also very useful

[kblood]

This is how I do it aswell. I don't even have to try, it just happens so easily to me. The first time I did it I wasn't even attempting lucid dreaming, it just happened! They are some of the best dreams I've ever had.

Sounds a bit like my experience as well, back when I was a kid about 4-5 years old. Every night going to bed I was excited about what I should dream about and what I would like to add to the dream. I usually had 3-4 dreams I could remember and I could choose between. Some of them was challenging, because even when lucid it was hard to change the outcome. When you have already dreamed one outcome, you might just follow that same memory of the dream and have the same outcome. Took quite an effort to take the dream down a different road, but I did succeed sometimes.

I had not really thought about this possibility, especially that it might still be possible. I usually just focused on being "prepared" to know I was going to dream and try to realize it. My attention span is rather short though, so I usually just give up, or fall in a deep sleep instead. Who knows, maybe I can even get back into one of the dreams from my childhood? :) I doubt I can do that though, since I cannot remember important details, like how the dream began. So I guess I will have to wait for next time I have a dream that I can remember, and try not to forget that dream again right away.

[sentient being]

Sounds a bit like my experience as well, back when I was a kid about 4-5 years old. Every night going to bed I was excited about what I should dream about and what I would like to add to the dream. I usually had 3-4 dreams I could remember and I could choose between. Some of them was challenging, because even when lucid it was hard to change the outcome. When you have already dreamed one outcome, you might just follow that same memory of the dream and have the same outcome. Took quite an effort to take the dream down a different road, but I did succeed sometimes.

I had not really thought about this possibility, especially that it might still be possible. I usually just focused on being "prepared" to know I was going to dream and try to realize it. My attention span is rather short though, so I usually just give up, or fall in a deep sleep instead. Who knows, maybe I can even get back into one of the dreams from my childhood? :) I doubt I can do that though, since I cannot remember important details, like how the dream began. So I guess I will have to wait for next time I have a dream that I can remember, and try not to forget that dream again right away.




Great input everyone. Thanks A Billion. Keep it coming and keep lucid!!

[biblegirl]

great OP, i haven't had a chance to get through this whole thread yet but it looks great :)

[whiterain]

Spinning and rubbing your hands (sense of gravity/physics + sense of touch) are great ways to stay in your dream, should you ever begin to lose connection with it.

turns out spinning and rubbing your hands together can be a pretty effective tool out of the dreamworld too...:) anyone ever rubbed their hands together when in an altered state and the sensitivity makes it feel like your fingerprints have grown into massive tracktor tyre treads? happens to me with salvia and almost feels like im grounding myself to my surroundings through the palms of my hands. im not as aware of my energy centres as i would like to be but it would seem to me like the hands are just as important

[kblood]

turns out spinning and rubbing your hands together can be a pretty effective tool out of the dreamworld too...:) anyone ever rubbed their hands together when in an altered state and the sensitivity makes it feel like your fingerprints have grown into massive tracktor tyre treads? happens to me with salvia and almost feels like im grounding myself to my surroundings through the palms of my hands. im not as aware of my energy centres as i would like to be but it would seem to me like the hands are just as important

I rub my hands all the time. Probably because it all feels a bit like a dream world ;) Or because I am thinking about about hatching evil plans :eek: Could just be I have cold hands, but that is rarely the case from what I remember. During the summer at least.

[whiterain]

I rub my hands all the time. Probably because it all feels a bit like a dream world ;) Or because I am thinking about about hatching evil plans :eek: Could just be I have cold hands, but that is rarely the case from what I remember. During the summer at least.

perhaps this is why the image of rubbing your hands has been linked to evil :D

[whiterain]

As a kid I discovered lucid dreaming, and it came natural to me. I looked forward to going to sleep, looked forward to what I might dream that night. Some dreams got repeated, and I tried changing the outcome. Other dreams I tried taking complete control over and make something specific happen, but usually my subconciousn just made something really wierd happen instead or something wierd just interrupted what I was making happen in my dream.

It was all fun and games for me, but later I forgot all about it. Other things in life caught my interest, and I began playing computer games. I guess they replaced my lucid dreaming, since it is kind of similar in some ways. At least the way I was lucid dreaming.

During puberty I experienced oneness, and I got interested in exploring the mind again. After some years of experiementing with it now and then, I discovered that reality seems like a dream as well. Some of the first things that made me come to that conclusion was Einsteins relativity theory. So everything is basicly different kinds of energy? That made everything seem less real. Finally I found ways to become lucid awake. It basicly gives somewhat the same kind of control that you have in a lucid dream, only while awake. A few more bounderies, since it becomes real to others then as well.

Sometimes lucid dreaming gets triggered because there is something you are fighting in a dream, maybe something you fear. Could be a nightmare, and suddenly you realise, hey this cant be happening... oh it isnt. Then you can play around with the nightmare, or if you are still rattled by it then maybe try to wake up. Had a nightmare as a kid where it got lucid, and when trying to wake up then the monsters and people in the dream came to help me wake up. Some of the ways my dreams became strange, and a bit funny as well.

My point is it seems the same thing in real life. My triggers for making reality lucid might have been the adrenaline from almost dying or the experience of actually dying. Just not crossing over. Could also be my encounters with ghosts that handt crossed over yet.

These days I am neither lucid dreaming or experiencing being lucid awake. At least it has been a while. I am trying to enjoy a normal life, but always looking forward to the next time my life gets spiced up by such extraordinary experiences.

any more on this kb. not that i want to control anything really, just ive managed to convince myself this is all a dream and it would be nice to be able to recognise it as such on a more regular basis.

on another note i just rememberd my dream last night. was at some party (nothing odd there) but then the jackson five came in (looking different) and i struck up a conversation with jermaine while thinking hold on a minute i know what jermaine jackson looks like, yet still never realised it was a dream. he then grabbed my hat and put it on his massive head and ripped it. i was gutted cos i got it in athens. cant belive i didnt rip him about his son jermajesty!

i also keep having freeman dreams just like the vids posted here. if im going by my dreams then it definately works:D cos each time i ask a copper if hes on his oath he ends up leaving me alone. also many courtroom bits where im telling people how it really works. i love learning in dreams. i almost dont care if its wrong or not cos its so interesting anyway

[exclamatio]

smoke weed all day and you will NOT get any Lucid dreams at all ;)


works like a charm

just a note, i smoke all day every day and i lucid dream at will :)

[whiterain]

just a note, i smoke all day every day and i lucid dream at will :)

exactly if you train yourself well then weed is a massive aid. once you manage to do it while stoned, the next time you take a break you wont believe the whole new levels you reach.

completely freaked the fuck out of me the first time cos i was sleeping in my car near a motorway bridge and dreamed that i had rolled onto the motorway but it was just unbelievable to me that it was a dream because all senses and all emotions were completely aware, perhaps more so than when actually awake.

thankfully places like this helped me learn to use it to my advantage.

peace and lucidity to all

[ozpixie]

I've been having a problem with lucid dreaming lately. The last time I was having lucid dreams fairly often (usually by doing lots of reality checks during the day), I found myself getting stuck a lot. And waking up with sleep paralysis.

I'd be in a dream, become lucid and for whatever reason the dream ends-- but I do not fully wake up. I can somewhat feel myself laying in my bed, physically but I can't move or open my eyes and it just feels like my mind is some place else-- usually this is accompanied by a strange overwhelming feeling of being in a wind tunnel. With a very loud whooshing sound in my ears. Meanwhile I'd become more awake physically but it always took a while to be able to snap out of it and wake up fully, but even then I'd usually be paralyzed for about 20 seconds. A lot of times I'd feel a presence pushing me down, too and I'd scream at it in my head which seemed to help-- but the loud whooshing sound would still be there until I could move my body.

Any thoughts..?

Has happened to me plenty of times. I think it's that sometimes I don't want to come back. I don't know.

[kblood]

any more on this kb. not that i want to control anything really, just ive managed to convince myself this is all a dream and it would be nice to be able to recognise it as such on a more regular basis.

on another note i just rememberd my dream last night. was at some party (nothing odd there) but then the jackson five came in (looking different) and i struck up a conversation with jermaine while thinking hold on a minute i know what jermaine jackson looks like, yet still never realised it was a dream. he then grabbed my hat and put it on his massive head and ripped it. i was gutted cos i got it in athens. cant belive i didnt rip him about his son jermajesty!

i also keep having freeman dreams just like the vids posted here. if im going by my dreams then it definately works:D cos each time i ask a copper if hes on his oath he ends up leaving me alone. also many courtroom bits where im telling people how it really works. i love learning in dreams. i almost dont care if its wrong or not cos its so interesting anyway

I am not sure I can describe it that well, I have tried to many times though. I have come to believe that a part of it at least is getting into the state between being asleep and awake. That usually helps getting into the state of oneness. I think it was after experiencing this state several times that I learned to do other things like telepathy and telekinesis. Empathy it seems was one of the first things I experienced. None of these are something I can do at will, not that I am trying much either. I did try telekinesis for a period of time doing it by will alone, and while being alone. Could not make it work, maybe because I have been focusing my life on being normal for a few years now.

Back when it worked, then I usually needed emotions to trigger it. I could go into it more, but takes a while to get around. Some of it might have triggered the first time I should have died after a car accident. Other stuff probably came because of my experiences with ghosts.

[whiterain]

well i had a massively obvious bit of symbolism in my dream last night. i was looking at the earth, and as the arctic melted, it slipped off the earth as if gravity pulled south. some people were just acting calm and adapting to these changes, while some where running round in such a blind panic that they were joining the ice in falling off the planet.

in another bit i was standing in a great greenhouse/aviary style thing and wondering why all the birds were not flying out of the windows and away to freedom. then i just realised that they were so comfortable and enjoying themselves so much that there was no need for them to leave. stunningly beautiful place full of finches. probably because weve had loads of goldfinches round here lately

[w0rm]

Just started a 'dream-journal' earlier this week after reading: Exploring the World of Lucid Dreaming by Stephen LaBerge Ph,D. & Howard Rheingold.

Noticing a few recurring patterns, but haven't had any luck becoming lucid yet. I'm confident I will at some point though. :)

[makgame]

I just had a dream of startin' to fly and it felt so real that it seems like I probably could do it without dreaming lol

[academylin]

Just started a 'dream-journal' earlier this week after reading: Exploring the World of Lucid Dreaming by Stephen LaBerge Ph,D. & Howard Rheingold.

Noticing a few recurring patterns, but haven't had any luck becoming lucid yet. I'm confident I will at some point though. :)

Mmmm, the more you note down your dreams, even, as Edgar Cayce suggests, by waking yourself up throughout the night with an alarm clock and immediately writing down what you can remember, will eventually help you increase toward a lucid level.

As will trying to become aware of the theta moment when you are just dropping off to sleep, you know the whole " stepping off a kerb " feeling you sometimes get, just before you go night nights.... thats you entering a theta state, training yourself to try and remain consciouss through that is aid toward lucidity.... and vice versa!

[neila]

Mmmm, the more you note down your dreams, even, as Edgar Cayce suggests, by waking yourself up throughout the night with an alarm clock and immediately writing down what you can remember, will eventually help you increase toward a lucid level.

As will trying to become aware of the theta moment when you are just dropping off to sleep, you know the whole " stepping off a kerb " feeling you sometimes get, just before you go night nights.... thats you entering a theta state, training yourself to try and remain consciouss through that is aid toward lucidity.... and vice versa!
I often have lucid dreams but I find the ''stepping off a kerb'' quite different to lucid dreaming and have never felt able to lucid dream from that as the jolt wakes me up.

[whiterain]

I just had a dream of startin' to fly and it felt so real that it seems like I probably could do it without dreaming lol

its the best yet most frustrating feeling ive ever had. one day,, one day :o:D

[whiterain]

I often have lucid dreams but I find the ''stepping off a kerb'' quite different to lucid dreaming and have never felt able to lucid dream from that as the jolt wakes me up.

yeah its a slow process for me, but its definately possible to simply fall asleep straight into a dream as it nearly happens so often for me and has a couple of times. has anyone got techniques for turning lucid dreams into full on projections because i think thats going to be the best way for me

[academylin]

yeah its a slow process for me, but its definately possible to simply fall asleep straight into a dream as it nearly happens so often for me and has a couple of times. has anyone got techniques for turning lucid dreams into full on projections because i think thats going to be the best way for me

Hi Whiterain..

Robert Munroe has done very interesting work on this.

My disc drive is bust on this machine so I will need to get to another laptop this evening, then I can post up some details!

[whiterain]

Hi Whiterain..

Robert Munroe has done very interesting work on this.

My disc drive is bust on this machine so I will need to get to another laptop this evening, then I can post up some details!

thanks alot. there is so much info on it out there, its just hard to find the stuff thats relevant for you. i reckon some people must spend there lives trying to do things like this, but just using techniques that have worked for other people which wont necessarily work for them. lucid dreams are at least something i have had a little success with so we'll see

[academylin]

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This is a collection of books that have been helpful to me on my ?Road of Enlightenment?. My spiritual journey and growth as a human being. There is a huge and wide variety of different ebooks and authors collected here. I thought I would take the time to share a unique collection. To share where much of my perspective comes from with any interested people. I am, of course, still on that road to enlightenment. I don't think it ends.

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Don DeGracia - Out of Body Experiences
Jonas Ridgeway - The Astral Projection Guidebook
Kaltem Gibson - Telekinesis - Unleash Your Telekinetic Ability
Namkhai Norbu - Dream Yoga and the Practice of Natural Light
Robert A. Monroe - Far Journeys (One of my very favorites)
Robert A. Monroe - Journeys Out of Body
Robert Bruce - Astral Dynamics - A New Approach to Out-of-Body Experiences
Robert Bruce - Treatise On Astral Projection
Robert Peterson - OOBE How to Have Them & What to Expect
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Stephen LaBerge - Exploring the World of Lucid Dreaming
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[whiterain]

wow nice one cheers. i keep meaning to put all the stuff ive got into a file like this. when i do you will be the first to know ta :)

yeah i read a few of the castenada books, early on when i was probably a bit too wary to get into it properly. some great stories in them although i always got the impression that even carlos didnt quite understand what was going on. i wouldnt be surprised if they had been heavily edited though as the ones i read seemed a little short of actual methods

[wakeuptime]

Thanks for posting this. I've printed and will start working with it as I'm a bit frustrated that I rarely remember dreams at all but when I do they're often fascinating. Love the idea that you can dream lucidly. I'll let you know what happens. :)

[whiterain]

well so this week its been back on with the full on fortnight holiday dreams. amazing while im asleep but leave me with a sad feeling of leaving old friends.

had an amazing part early on in one last night where me and a few friends were standing in a ring looking at each other, then we just moved inward towards the centre of the ring while each having the 'realisation' that we were all the same person, just living different lives for now. bizarre.

[sentient being]

Thanks for the excellent contrbutions everyone! Am still at it. Hopefully will joy ride soon.


Love.

[whiterain]

last night is one of the first times i remember actually lucid flying with other people. just a bunch of us running around and jumping off sky scrapers. normally ill be flying on my own, sort of showing off but mostly just trying to show other people they can do it too

[whiterain]

did a wbtb and was walking along in a dream as if it was reality, yet i was kind of projecting into another dream as if i was bilocating. unfortunately neither of the locations were really awake enough... :D

[passing]

It feels like ages since I last thought about this...

[loveemotion]

smoke weed all day and you will NOT get any Lucid dreams at all ;)


works like a charm

I disagree in fact i just had one a couple of days ago and i smoke almost everyday))