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mrindigo
21-08-2009, 02:00 AM
FREDERICK, Maryland (CNN) -- Andrew Stein, 10, and his brother, Nathan, 7, are having a typical end-of-summer vacation: hanging out at the pool, visiting their grandparents and waiting for the beginning of school.

But this week they're doing something most of their classmates will never do. The Stein brothers will be testing the new vaccine to prevent swine flu.

Because the younger population, from 6 months to 24 years, is at high risk of developing complications from the H1N1 virus, the National Institutes of Health is conducting a clinical trial specifically to make sure the vaccine is safe for children. Vaccine developers hope to get the doses out by mid-October, before the flu season really shifts into high gear.

Although both boys dislike needles, they are willing to make the sacrifice. "One boy that I knew at our school died from a type of the flu," said Andrew, frowning. "So I wanted to prevent that as much as I could."

The boys, who live in the suburbs between Baltimore, Maryland, and Washington, got their first inoculations at the vaccine satellite office in Frederick, Maryland. The trial is being conducted by the University of Maryland School of Medicine, one of 11 institutions across the country holding pediatric trials. Researchers will test the boys' blood, have them keep journals and make sure they have no severe reactions after each vaccine.

The pediatric studies are divided into two groups within the United States. Half the sites will be comparing reactions between the H1N1 shot and the seasonal influenza vaccines on kids; the others will be looking at the effectiveness of a two-dose vaccine. The Steins are enrolled in the dosage trial.

The data are crucial for developing a safe vaccine, said Dr. Karen Kotloff, who heads both the pediatric and adult trials at Maryland. "The purpose of the studies we are doing is to try to collect information that will help to inform policymakers about the best way to give the pandemic H1N1 flu vaccine," she said. "Whether we need one or two doses and what strength we need."

Before they received their shots, both boys, along with their parents, Christy and Eric Stein, got an explanation of the procedure and were warned about possible complications. Nancy Wymer, who coordinates the study, says the boys will receive two inoculations over six weeks and will continue to check in periodically over the following six months.

Neither brother gave more than a grimace as he rolled up his sleeve and took a shot for science. Andrew Stein said it was no big deal. "It was in and out, in a couple of seconds."

Why would parents have their children be part of such a trial? Most say to help other children. Christy Stein was involved in a pediatric trial for the swine flu vaccine in 1976 and understands what her sons are going through. But she also believes it's good for the country's public health. "I trust the people who are running the study," she said. "And I'm not concerned about it at all."

The studies are based on other influenza trials in the past. Many parents have already volunteered their children but openings still exist. Children 6 months to 35 months are needed, Kotloff said. "Like with any shot, children may have a sore arm. Your arm can be red...There might be some fever or achiness, but the symptoms go away in a couple of days.

"There can be allergic reactions, mostly rashes, but in some rare circumstances there can be severe allergic reactions," she added. "Each volunteer is informed about these possibilities, so it's up to the parents to make that choice."

The 11 main sites across the U.S, in nine states, are currently recruiting children for the vaccine trials. The two-dose vaccine tests are being conducted at the University of Maryland Baltimore; Duke University in Durham, North Carolina; Children's Mercy Hospital in Kansas City, Missouri; Children's Hospital and Regional Medical Center in Seattle, Washington; and Vanderbilt University in Nashville, Tennessee.

And the trial comparing H1N1 and seasonal flu vaccines is at Hope Clinic, Emory University in Atlanta, Georgia; St. Louis University in Missouri; the University of Iowa in Iowa City; Cincinnati Children's Hospital Medical Center in Cincinnati, Ohio; Baylor College of Medicine in Houston, Texas; and the University of Texas Medical Branch in Galveston.

Each location has a Web site to sign up if more children are needed.

Andrew and Nathan are doing fine. They will keep a diary on how they feel and what, if any, reactions they have. Each was rewarded with a $40 gift card for his trouble. And even after being stuck with a couple of needles, Nathan Stein says it was worth it.

"Not just for the gift card," he said, "but for being able to help other kids."

http://www.cnn.com/2009/HEALTH/08/20/h1n1.flu.kids.trial/index.html?eref=igoogle_cnn

These people really don't have any morals do they? Who in their right mind would subject a child to clinical vaccination trials? :mad:

motleyhoo
21-08-2009, 04:48 AM
These people really don't have any morals do they? Who in their right mind would subject a child to clinical vaccination trials? :mad:

Even if they had morals, they're way too stupid to use them. There really is not one rational explanation to intentionally offer up one's own children as lab rats, and that is exactly what they are doing. Everyday people have their children taken away from them less abuse/neglect than that.

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mrindigo
21-08-2009, 05:57 AM
Even if they had morals, they're way too stupid to use them. There really is not one rational explanation to intentionally offer up one's own children as lab rats, and that is exactly what they are doing. Everyday people have their children taken away from them less abuse/neglect than that.

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As much as I dislike commenting on the intellect of another, I have to agree with you in this particular case. You're right again that children are taken away for less, and yet for some reason this seen as acceptable? What is going on the in minds of some people today, if anything?

Anders Lindman
21-08-2009, 06:19 AM
There really is not one rational explanation to intentionally offer up one's own children as lab rats

We have been thoroughly programmed to follow and believe authorities. To the point where people don't think for themselves in many cases. And especially responsibility is something people gladly let authorities handle because they feel it as a heavy burden. And that is fine I think. We should outsource our burdens to others who are less burdened by those things, who enjoy handling it instead of feeling it as a burden, BUT when we outsource responsibility we need to keep that outsourcing on a leash so to speak and remain conscious of what we are doing instead of just blindly following all kinds of dubious 'authorities'.

I have started to go the total opposite direction when it comes to health care. I don't trust the health care system for one second! My current plan is to not go to a doctor or a nurse at all. Ever!!! :cool::D

mrindigo
21-08-2009, 04:39 PM
We have been thoroughly programmed to follow and believe authorities. To the point where people don't think for themselves in many cases. And especially responsibility is something people gladly let authorities handle because they feel it as a heavy burden. And that is fine I think. We should outsource our burdens to others who are less burdened by those things, who enjoy handling it instead of feeling it as a burden, BUT when we outsource responsibility we need to keep that outsourcing on a leash so to speak and remain conscious of what we are doing instead of just blindly following all kinds of dubious 'authorities'.

I have started to go the total opposite direction when it comes to health care. I don't trust the health care system for one second! My current plan is to not go to a doctor or a nurse at all. Ever!!! :cool::D

While it would be nice to have a hand with things, it also creates the possibility for excuses. If those children suddenly develop cancer, mercury poisoning, or some kind of disease related to the vaccination, the parents will claim they didn't know and blame the government and big pharma. They are at fault, but only partly. The parents would also be at fault for not taking the responsibility to educate themselves to properly protect their children.

Many become complacent when they don't have responsibility. Their focus turns toward less important things like entertainment, recreational drug use, alcoholism, vanity/Narcissism, and materialism. Since they don't need to use their intellect as often, their logic and reasoning abilities become atrophied. I like a good pint, nice clothes, video games/movies like anyone else, but there is a line. I think if we all had a few more responsibilities, there may be an improvement in the quality of life and social interaction. I think a veggie garden would be perfect for that.

Avoiding doctors completely may not be a good decision. If you break a bone, dislocate a limb or joint, get shot, stabbed, etc, you're going to need someone to set it or remove the projectile. Doctors aren't completely bad. Just be wary of the plethora of pills they'd love to slap into your hand when you have a sniffle. :)