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tyler
20-08-2009, 12:10 PM
More proof that Israel is flooding internet forums with shills and jerkoffs who push the Zionist line......
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=14465
More proof that Israel is flooding internet forums with shills and jerkoffs who push the Zionist line......
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=14465
We've plenty of them round here. You've only got to mention certain subjects like 7/7 and the same old faces start popping out of the woodwork, taking it in turns to wreck the thread. What gives them away is their lack of input on any other subject other than the one they activly disrupt.:D
tyler
20-08-2009, 12:25 PM
Yes, milky dogs come to mind!!! :D
tyler
20-08-2009, 12:28 PM
an aside....the line at the bottom of your post is something I have been pondering on for months. Lots of schools are getting heavy duty fencing compounds erected. Supposedly for basketball courts and five a side football piches. have you noticed this around London? I have. Heavy green fencing is often used.
e7304
20-08-2009, 01:29 PM
This is a bit late. Back in 2003, when I was on the Anomalies forum, I asked qustions about Amdocs, Comverse and other Israeli companies and their conection to 911. I also mention Carl Camerons expose on , of all the channels, Fox News , about Isreali companies and their control of US law enforcement communications. I wasnt the only one as many others were doing so. Posters from the Free Republic website attacked me and got me banned. The tipping point came when I said Debka was a Mossad front. They used Debka as a constantly sighted resource for most of their info, especially regarding Iraq and WMDs and were furious that I would out them.
jesuitsdidit
20-08-2009, 05:59 PM
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Internet warfare team unveiled
Twitterers paid to spread Israeli propaganda
by Jonathan Cook
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Global Research, July 21, 2009
Nazareth. The passionate support for Israel expressed on talkback sections of websites, internet chat forums, blogs, Twitters and Facebook may not be all that it seems.
Israel’s foreign ministry is reported to be establishing a special undercover team of paid workers whose job it will be to surf the internet 24 hours a day spreading positive news about Israel.
Internet-savvy Israeli youngsters, mainly recent graduates and demobilised soldiers with language skills, are being recruited to pose as ordinary surfers while they provide the government’s line on the Middle East conflict.
“To all intents and purposes the internet is a theatre in the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, and we must be active in that theatre, otherwise we will lose,” said Ilan Shturman, who is responsible for the project.
The existence of an “internet warfare team” came to light when it was included in this year’s foreign ministry budget. About $150,000 has been set aside for the first stage of development, with increased funding expected next year.
The team will fall under the authority of a large department already dealing with what Israelis term “hasbara”, officially translated as “public explanation” but more usually meaning propaganda. That includes not only government public relations work but more secretive dealings the ministry has with a battery of private organisations and initiatives that promote Israel’s image in print, on TV and online.
In an interview this month with the Calcalist, an Israeli business newspaper, Mr Shturman, the deputy director of the ministry’s hasbara department, admitted his team would be working undercover.
“Our people will not say: ‘Hello, I am from the hasbara department of the Israeli foreign ministry and I want to tell you the following.’ Nor will they necessarily identify themselves as Israelis,” he said. “They will speak as net-surfers and as citizens, and will write responses that will look personal but will be based on a prepared list of messages that the foreign ministry developed.”
Rona Kuperboim, a columnist for Ynet, Israel’s most popular news website, denounced the initiative, saying it indicated that Israel had become a “thought-police state”.
She added that “good PR cannot make the reality in the occupied territories prettier. Children are being killed, homes are being bombed, and families are starved.”
Her column was greeted by several talkbackers asking how they could apply for a job with the foreign ministry’s team.
The project is a formalisation of public relations practices the ministry developed specifically for Israel’s assault on Gaza in December and January.
“During Operation Cast Lead we appealed to Jewish communities abroad and with their help we recruited a few thousand volunteers, who were joined by Israeli volunteers,” Mr Shturman said.
“We gave them background material and hasbara material, and we sent them to represent the Israeli point of view on news websites and in polls on the internet.”
The Israeli army also had one of the most popular sites on the video-sharing site YouTube and regularly uploaded clips, although it was criticised by human rights groups for misleading viewers about what was shown in its footage.
Mr Shturman said that during the war the ministry had concentrated its activities on European websites where audiences were more hostile to Israeli policy. High on its list of target sites for the new project would be BBC Online and Arabic websites, he added.
Elon Gilad, who heads the internet team, told Calcalist that many people had contacted the ministry offering their services during the Gaza attack. “People just asked for information, and afterwards we saw that the information was distributed all over the internet.”
He suggested that there had been widespread government cooperation, with the ministry of absorption handing over contact details for hundreds of recent immigrants to Israel, who wrote pro-Israel material for websites in their native languages.
The new team is expected to increase the ministry’s close coordination with a private advocacy group, giyus.org (Give Israel Your United Support). About 50,000 activists are reported to have downloaded a programme called Megaphone that sends an alert to their computers when an article critical of Israel is published. They are then supposed to bombard the site with comments supporting Israel.
Nasser Rego of Ilam, a group based in Nazareth that monitors the Israeli media, said Arab organisations in Israel were among those regularly targeted by hasbara groups for “character assassination”. He was concerned the new team would try to make such work appear more professional and convincing.
“If these people are misrepresenting who they are, we can guess they won’t worry too much about misrepresenting the groups and individuals they write about. Their aim, it’s clear, will be to discredit those who stand for human rights and justice for the Palestinians.”
When The National called the foreign ministry, Yigal Palmor, a spokesman, denied the existence of the internet team, though he admitted officials were stepping up exploitation of new media.
He declined to say which comments by Mr Shturman or Mr Gilad had been misrepresented by the Hebrew-language media, and said the ministry would not be taking any action over the reports.
Israel has developed an increasingly sophisticated approach to new media since it launched a “Brand Israel” campaign in 2005.
Market research persuaded officials that Israel should play up good news about business success, and scientific and medical breakthroughs involving Israelis.
Mr Shturman said his staff would seek to use websites to improve “Israel’s image as a developed state that contributes to the quality of the environment and to humanity”.
David Saranga, head of public relations at Israel’s consulate-general in New York, which has been leading the push for more upbeat messages about Israel, argued last week that Israel was at a disadvantage against pro-Palestinian advocacy.
“Unlike the Muslim world, which has hundreds of millions of supporters who have adopted the Palestinian narrative in order to slam Israel, the Jewish world numbers only 13 million,” he wrote in Ynet.
Israel has become particularly concerned that support is ebbing among the younger generations in Europe and the United States.
In 2007 it emerged that the foreign ministry was behind a photo-shoot published in Maxim, a popular US men’s magazine, in which female Israeli soldiers posed in swimsuits.
Jonathan Cook is a writer and journalist based in Nazareth, Israel. His latest books are “Israel and the Clash of Civilisations: Iraq, Iran and the Plan to Remake the Middle East” (Pluto Press) and “Disappearing Palestine: Israel's Experiments in Human Despair” (Zed Books). His website is www.jkcook.net.
A version of this article originally appeared in The National (www.thenational.ae), published in Abu Dhabi.
drhemp
20-08-2009, 06:35 PM
They can try with their propaganda Tyler, but they'll never fool the likes of us!
flickflack
20-08-2009, 06:57 PM
Maybe I could get a new job, working from home. :D
Seriously though, I have other plans. And if I had been working online, I would have to get a faster connection. My bandwidth capacity is like... zero sometimes.
But I would be honored to be perceived as an agent... It should really give me the strength and mental capacity to end the tyranny in the streets around me. I want to criminalize masked demonstrations, flag-burning and hanging up posters with evil intentions. As I could not do that in my previous job, and a group of people have been petty and ungrateful of the justice that I had to offer them, those who are my enemies should not think they can be allowed to escape my justice twice.
The use of substances like marijuana is to honor Judas Iscariot, the betrayer of Jesus Christ and front-runner for the strong antisemitism polluting this world.
There is just so many things that I want to criminalize in my country, and my political manifesto could be the burning of proof. Those who committs injustice towards the law with evil intentions will witness the doom in Purgatory.
It's ironic, because when the left-wing extremists could have a change to stop me, they just did nothing but behaved as if they where hammering behind my back! What pathetic, petty, ungrateful lower state of beings those criminal left-wing extremists must be... They will never forget the day they did injustice to me, as the strength of my justice has expanded like a blossom breathing the light of Sun.
decim
20-08-2009, 07:51 PM
milk of canine & my name was, are two obvious haters.
“Our people will not say: ‘Hello, I am from the hasbara department of the Israeli foreign ministry and I want to tell you the following.’ Nor will they necessarily identify themselves as Israelis,” he said. “They will speak as net-surfers and as citizens, and will write responses that will look personal but will be based on a prepared list of messages that the foreign ministry developed.”
anyuser
21-08-2009, 10:47 AM
Internet warfare team unveiled – Twitterers paid to spread Israeli propaganda (http://dprogram.net/2009/08/20/internet-warfare-team-unveiled-twitterers-paid-to-spread-israeli-propaganda/)
Israel’s foreign ministry is reported to be establishing a special undercover team of paid workers whose job it will be to surf the internet 24 hours a day spreading positive news about Israel.
____
Nazareth. The passionate support for Israel expressed on talkback sections of websites, internet chat forums, blogs, Twitters and Facebook may not be all that it seems.
Israel’s foreign ministry is reported to be establishing a special undercover team of paid workers whose job it will be to surf the internet 24 hours a day spreading positive news about Israel.
Internet-savvy Israeli youngsters, mainly recent graduates and demobilised soldiers with language skills, are being recruited to pose as ordinary surfers while they provide the government’s line on the Middle East conflict.
“To all intents and purposes the internet is a theatre in the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, and we must be active in that theatre, otherwise we will lose,” said Ilan Shturman, who is responsible for the project.
cont:Internet warfare team unveiled – Twitterers paid to spread Israeli propaganda (http://dprogram.net/2009/08/20/internet-warfare-team-unveiled-twitterers-paid-to-spread-israeli-propaganda/)
rodin
21-08-2009, 03:21 PM
Problem for these crooks and slavers is that their Sayanim are outnumbered ten to one by goyanim. Fighting for truth is much more energising than defending a lie which must by now be looking like a lost cause
rodin
21-08-2009, 03:23 PM
Also what is so amusing is that they cannot change - adapt - to the increasing awareness of their target. Where is that fabled Jewish mental agility? Is that another hoax by Hoaxes R us?
Bring 'em on.
krakhead
21-08-2009, 03:40 PM
OK - I've already removed 2 posts (edit - three now) from here discussing 'who-is-the-shill'.
Keep unfounded allegations to yourselves please.
Deciding amongst yourselves who IS and ISN'T a 'shill' on the open forum causes bad feeling and arguments.
Discussion of the fact that there is now proof that people are PAID to go onto forums to disrupt is them is the point of the thread - not turning this into a witch-hunt.
If you feel someone is a 'shill', or is just here to disrupt etc, then ignore them, skip their posts. If people keep responding to the trolls, they will continue. Refuse to respond and you take away their power.
transcendental stallion
21-08-2009, 03:48 PM
More proof that Israel is flooding internet forums with shills and jerkoffs who push the Zionist line......
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=14465
Feel free to discuss the problem from the ethnic community in my specified thread.
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=78453
It's more obvious day and day that they want to handicap Forums that chasing them out of hiding.
krakhead
21-08-2009, 03:54 PM
Feel free to discuss the problem from the ethnic community in my specified thread.
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=78453
It's more obvious day and day that they want to hadicap Forums that chasing them out of hiding.
Tyler, I'm pretty sure, is aware that Israeli Zionist agents are a very different beast from the Jewish community at large.
"they' is a big word.
transcendental stallion
21-08-2009, 04:05 PM
Tyler, I'm pretty sure, is aware that Israeli Zionist agents are a very different beast from the Jewish community at large.
"they' is a big word.That's a technical difference. That's like saying every soldier at war isn't a killer.
krakhead
21-08-2009, 04:12 PM
That's a technical difference. That's like saying every soldier at war isn't a killer.
It's not a technical difference! :rolleyes: It's two opposing ideologies originating from within (largely) the same communities.