View Full Version : Is there any hope?
lostinstrangeworld
16-08-2007, 09:23 AM
Just wanted to know your thoughts.
I just watched the Zeitgeist movie,
http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com/
and it is the most incredible thing I have ever seen in my entire life....however Christians find it extremely offensive (best not to try and force it on people)....I think if I were still a mind controlled christian, watching this might cause me a nervous breakdown (the beginning part). But I'm certainly not one of those, just desperately searching for the TRUTH.
Is there any hope for people?
You can't force people to wake up and throw out their television, etc.
What is going to happen to the human race?
No-one deserves to suffer. We are not becoming evil and corrupt as many religious nay-sayers would have you believe. It is the governments and world banks that are truly, truly corrupt and responsible for so much pain, suffering and torture it is unbelievable.
That's why no-one wants to believe it!
What is going to happen to our world?!
This is so depressing!
And I am a mother:(
umbrex
16-08-2007, 09:39 AM
Just wanted to know your thoughts.
I just watched the Zeitgeist movie,
http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com/
and it is the most incredible thing I have ever seen in my entire life....however Christians find it extremely offensive (best not to try and force it on people)....I think if I were still a mind controlled christian, watching this might cause me a nervous breakdown (the beginning part). But I'm certainly not one of those, just desperately searching for the TRUTH.
Is there any hope for people?
You can't force people to wake up and throw out their television, etc.
What is going to happen to the human race?
No-one deserves to suffer. We are not becoming evil and corrupt as many religious nay-sayers would have you believe. It is the governments and world banks that are truly, truly corrupt and responsible for so much pain, suffering and torture it is unbelievable.
That's why no-one wants to believe it!
What is going to happen to our world?!
This is so depressing!
And I am a mother:(
The real question is how can you contribute ?
If there is any hope ?
Unless the Fulford tapes are real, i doubt it.
gonzo power
16-08-2007, 09:45 AM
I have introduced Zeitgeist to quite a few Christians. I used to be a Christian myself, and I have a connection with a Christian Internet forum that dates back 5 years. A year ago I completely broke ties with Christianity. However, I remained a regular on the forum because I liked the place and I liked the people I had met on there. To get to the point, a few months ago I became awakened. Curious to what the response would be, in my journal on that forum I linked to Zeitgeist and asked people to watch it. Predictably, they did not take kindly to the first act of the movie. Some of them watched the entire first act, while others skipped the first act and went straight to act II about 9/11. To their credit, even after being made uncomfortable by act I, they continued watching the movie and did not come away from the experience totally trashing the film. A couple of them were even managed to be swayed about 9/11, although up to this point none of them have bought into the world government/NWO thing. A few of them have joined me with open minds in my quest to expose the truth to them on my forum journal, and have patiently looked at the evidence I have and am presenting. However, as far as the majority goes, I'm certain that I have ruined my 5+ year reputation on that forum by opening up to people about how I now see things. Not that it bothers me or deters me, but I'm sure that I am now secretly a laughing stock there.
To be fair to them, you have to keep in mind that it takes time to become awakened. I don't know of anyone who became awakened by watching one video and magically transforming their mindset. Becoming awakened is a journey and a time consuming process. Also, you have to realize that many Christians have held their worldview from the time their parents taught it to them. For many it is a lifelong belief that is not easy to break and would be psychologically devastating to many were they to finally "get it" and realize that they've been lied to their whole lives. For many it is much more comforting to ignore the facts and continue living in a matrix. I am not defending this behavior because eventually this mindset will come back to haunt everyone who employed it. I'm just trying to better help you understand these peoples' state of mind. For many, the thought of this being true is psychologically unacceptable to them which is why they shut it out.
The act of awakening is supposed to be a purely blissful and positive experience, but the truth is that it can also be a very depressing and mentally challenging experience if we let these negative thoughts and energies overwhelm us. If you are becoming too depressed, my advice is to take a break for a few days from reading this stuff and recharge your batteries. It is never a good idea to allow yourself to become overwhelmed with worry and shock.
auron
16-08-2007, 09:58 AM
Great post mate!
Not that it bothers me or deters me, but I'm sure that I am secretly a laughing stock there now.
I bet mate! Ah well, you have a new home here! :)
I'm going to paste this by Ms Moon. It is one of the best posts i have ever read:
I do believe that it is more important as an individual to explore your Natural state of Loving-ness and Being-ness, without trying too hard to convince people that this is how they should be. People are already perfect as they are, despite their angers, fears, worries and struggles and are merely a little slower at remembering why they appeared on this Planet Earth. But the Powerful Force of Evolution is an unstoppable one and it will sweep through everyone, inevitably, no matter how hard it is resisted. This is also important to remember and only when we as individuals learn to trust ourselves, learn to follow our Intuition and Knowing, will we spread our Energy of Love and Beingness to others in our vicinity.
We are all part of the rising frequency, we are all One therefore no matter what, we are all experiencing the same thing at the same time- it's just that some are more aware of it than others. But this is the Beauty you see? No matter what there will be people there to help.
There is never an exact timescale to evolution (we don't all experience puberty at the same time but we experience it AROUND the same time...) so looking at this on a grander scale, the time-frame will be exaggerated... give or take maybe a few years.
So regarding people figuring it out for themselves there is no question- people will remember eventually (with help or not) because it will be an inescapable and unstoppable force of tremendously beautiful Conscious Evolution!!
Lots of Love,
You
xxx
She has her head screwed on!!! :)
lydia78
16-08-2007, 10:09 AM
Beautiful Post.....:)
gonzo power
16-08-2007, 10:10 AM
She has her head screwed on!!! :)
Indeed. I think she is right. Lately, I've been realizing that I need to back off a bit with these people because I have been putting too much energy into trying to make them see what I see, and I have somewhat forced this on those people. Sometimes I let emotion get the best of me and I become too aggressive. Either people are going to understand or they're not. I have to stop trying so hard to convince people of something that they can only come to for themselves. I will continue to present the information, but I have to stop trying to be so persuasive. It's wasted energy. They can decide for themselves.
lostinstrangeworld
16-08-2007, 10:10 AM
I am not concerned about getting others to evolve as much as I am concerned, right now, that the future of our planet is for humans to become enslaved and there is nothing they are going to do to prevent it because they are so brainwashed by media.
I have watched the Ufo lecture by Philip Schneider that he was murdered for....read the interview with his wife.......It would seem that the plans that the government have is to wipe out the majority of the global population to make the rest easier to control.
I can't just sit back and 'take it easy' at the thought of my children and grandchildren being a part of that 'Brave New World'.....a micro-chipped, controlled and brainwashed population......
gonzo power
16-08-2007, 10:16 AM
I can't just sit back and 'take it easy' at the thought of my children and grandchildren being a part of that 'Brave New World'.....a micro-chipped, controlled and brainwashed population......
I realize that, but at the same time you have to ensure that you do not allow yourself to become overwhelmed with fear and worry. Fear or depression are not the emotions you need to feel over this. Anger and love are the emotions you need to feel. Love for your fellow brothers and sisters and anger to motivate yourself. Do not allow yourself to become taken by fear.
lostinstrangeworld
16-08-2007, 10:41 AM
I think I'd like to understand the nature of the matrix more.
We can't change this 'collective reality' to what we want it to be, we can only play our part and hope higher levels of consciousness will eventually take over. We can affect our reality with thought, but this world is everyone's creation, not just our own; we can't make the world change, especially one so adamant that everything they read and see on their TV is the truth!
The Bible is made up, but perhaps there was a highly spiritual rebel named Jesus, who knows.....Perhaps there is truth mixed in with non-truths.....
"Seek and you will find, knock and the door will be opened".
Perhaps if we keep our hearts in TUNE with the 'Great Spirit'; the 'Infinite', asking for help and guidance at all times, then we will receive it.
William Rodriquez, last man out of the world trade center.....certainly seems to have been guided! :)
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4380137365762802294
I am not afraid anymore......David Icke's latest video casts; the things which were discussed......made so much sense. I think that we are the dream-makers, not the dream.....
But I am deeply saddened.
auron
16-08-2007, 10:51 AM
We can't change this 'collective reality' to what we want it to be, we can only play our part and hope higher levels of consciousness will eventually take over.
You become it! That's the key! :)
http://spectraleyes.com/albums/artworx/namaskar.jpg