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miracles
19-08-2009, 02:36 PM
New Age
New Age is an old adage. Like medieval metaphysicians and ancient Eastern mystics, the cult of New Age hails man and his paramount powers as center of the spiritual universe. For centuries, people have endeavored to consecrate themselves and evoke the mysteries of spirituality.
New Agers believe a "Copernican threshold" must be crossed to uncover the mystery of mankind's relationship to universal spiritual truth. Only then the present confrontational system of differing faiths will be replaced with a worldwide oneness of soul and spirit. Discovering this spiritual symbiosis is the globalistic goal of all New Age religious pilgrimages. Whereas past religions looked outward to the sun, moon, stars, and cosmic forces, those in the New Age who aspire to know hidden truths journey inward to find collective connection with the One Cause.
The New Age search is really a very old examination of occultism's principles and practices. Reincarnation, astrology, astral projection, soul travel, shamanism, goddess worship, visualization and affirmations of inner deity are not new modes of spirituality. They are ancient ways of claiming to reveal the link between man and God. The term New Age represents this consciousness, as well as the astrological prediction of the end-of-the-century arrival of an era called Aquarian Age.
New Age cultists and Mystics seek a divine being within themselves and strive to be an integral, conscious element of the universe. God becomes the self and the self becomes God. New Agers have their own buzzword known as it-autarchy. Basically, it asserts government by self. Hence, the political agenda of the New Age movement ranges from abortion rights to gay rights, even animal rights. For some, it includes polygamous privileges, prostitution, gambling, and for the most extreme drugs.
The New Age rage is intended to become a new world order in which all become one. Remember, all is one, one is God, you are one, and you are......that's right, God. And since the God in you makes all the decisions, then whatever you decide is right. And if someone disagrees? Well, there is the rub.
The Christian world view is quite different. God's "shalt not" is not an obvious avoidance of each circumstance's merit, but rather divine perspective that knows the source of ultimate good. Disobedience to God always brings heartache and dysfunction, not because God has arbitrarily ruled so, but because His character is the stabilizing force of the universe.
Thus, divine law is an extension of divine character. The Ten Commandments weren't meant to be the Ten Suggestions. They represent truth that is fundamental to the perpetuity of human good, just as the laws of thermodynamics are crucial to the continuance of the material universe.
One must wonder what's next on the New Age agenda. When they have exorcised all moral law from society's cognizance, will they next, deny gravity its binding role in the universe? Any solution to the human condition that ignores the heart's depravity and God's transcendent wisdom will not usher in the New Age. It can only perpetrate an old lie. Esoteric half-truths do not lead to God. They are manifestations of the "the secret power of lawlessness" spoken of in 2nd Thessalonians 2:7. The marvelous insights and fascinating knowledge New Agers acquire are the "signs and lying wonders" of Satan and his Antichrist. Symbols of the New Age are the rainbow, globe, lotus flower, mandala and dove.
New Age
New Age is an old adage. Like medieval metaphysicians and ancient Eastern mystics, the cult of New Age hails man and his paramount powers as center of the spiritual universe. For centuries, people have endeavored to consecrate themselves and evoke the mysteries of spirituality.
New Agers believe a "Copernican threshold" must be crossed to uncover the mystery of mankind's relationship to universal spiritual truth. Only then the present confrontational system of differing faiths will be replaced with a worldwide oneness of soul and spirit. Discovering this spiritual symbiosis is the globalistic goal of all New Age religious pilgrimages. Whereas past religions looked outward to the sun, moon, stars, and cosmic forces, those in the New Age who aspire to know hidden truths journey inward to find collective connection with the One Cause.
The New Age search is really a very old examination of occultism's principles and practices. Reincarnation, astrology, astral projection, soul travel, shamanism, goddess worship, visualization and affirmations of inner deity are not new modes of spirituality. They are ancient ways of claiming to reveal the link between man and God. The term New Age represents this consciousness, as well as the astrological prediction of the end-of-the-century arrival of an era called Aquarian Age.
New Age cultists and Mystics seek a divine being within themselves and strive to be an integral, conscious element of the universe. God becomes the self and the self becomes God. New Agers have their own buzzword known as it-autarchy. Basically, it asserts government by self. Hence, the political agenda of the New Age movement ranges from abortion rights to gay rights, even animal rights. For some, it includes polygamous privileges, prostitution, gambling, and for the most extreme drugs.
The New Age rage is intended to become a new world order in which all become one. Remember, all is one, one is God, you are one, and you are......that's right, God. And since the God in you makes all the decisions, then whatever you decide is right. And if someone disagrees? Well, there is the rub.
The Christian world view is quite different. God's "shalt not" is not an obvious avoidance of each circumstance's merit, but rather divine perspective that knows the source of ultimate good. Disobedience to God always brings heartache and dysfunction, not because God has arbitrarily ruled so, but because His character is the stabilizing force of the universe.
Thus, divine law is an extension of divine character. The Ten Commandments weren't meant to be the Ten Suggestions. They represent truth that is fundamental to the perpetuity of human good, just as the laws of thermodynamics are crucial to the continuance of the material universe.
One must wonder what's next on the New Age agenda. When they have exorcised all moral law from society's cognizance, will they next, deny gravity its binding role in the universe? Any solution to the human condition that ignores the heart's depravity and God's transcendent wisdom will not usher in the New Age. It can only perpetrate an old lie. Esoteric half-truths do not lead to God. They are manifestations of the "the secret power of lawlessness" spoken of in 2nd Thessalonians 2:7. The marvelous insights and fascinating knowledge New Agers acquire are the "signs and lying wonders" of Satan and his Antichrist. Symbols of the New Age are the rainbow, globe, lotus flower, mandala and dove.
Yup basically the way i put it in a post to that nutcase thirdwave , tho my explanation/definition was a bit more simplistic :D
So yea @ thirdwave --> NewAgey stuff is shitty to the core and basically the tool of our destruction pretty much.
kappy0405
19-08-2009, 07:46 PM
you just said yourself that a 'christian' is someone with the 'spirit of God within them'.. That's exactly what the 'new-age' perception is. The difference is people still grasp to primitive way of thinking that this 'god' is a deity to be worshipped. How is that possible when God is everywhere? It's simple: God IS everywhere because God is infinite conciousness. Jesus was a psuedo-guru much like Icke is.
you just said yourself that a 'christian' is someone with the 'spirit of God within them'.. That's exactly what the 'new-age' perception is. The difference is people still grasp to primitive way of thinking that this 'god' is a deity to be worshipped. How is that possible when God is everywhere? It's simple: God IS everywhere because God is infinite conciousness. Jesus was a psuedo-guru much like Icke is.
So basically Icke is God yes.
And since Icke is a man results man is God.
Which means all men are God(s) yes?
is b.s. greatest b.s. in the history of mankind.
kappy0405
19-08-2009, 08:29 PM
is b.s. greatest b.s. in the history of mankind.
no, because you can't say one minute that the spirit of 'God' is within everyone and everything and then deny that the spirit of 'God' is everyone and everything.
God isn't a deity, clearly.
tannah
19-08-2009, 08:32 PM
New Age
New Age is an old adage. Like medieval metaphysicians and ancient Eastern mystics, the cult of New Age hails man and his paramount powers as center of the spiritual universe. For centuries, people have endeavored to consecrate themselves and evoke the mysteries of spirituality.
New Agers believe a "Copernican threshold" must be crossed to uncover the mystery of mankind's relationship to universal spiritual truth. Only then the present confrontational system of differing faiths will be replaced with a worldwide oneness of soul and spirit. Discovering this spiritual symbiosis is the globalistic goal of all New Age religious pilgrimages. Whereas past religions looked outward to the sun, moon, stars, and cosmic forces, those in the New Age who aspire to know hidden truths journey inward to find collective connection with the One Cause.
The New Age search is really a very old examination of occultism's principles and practices. Reincarnation, astrology, astral projection, soul travel, shamanism, goddess worship, visualization and affirmations of inner deity are not new modes of spirituality. They are ancient ways of claiming to reveal the link between man and God. The term New Age represents this consciousness, as well as the astrological prediction of the end-of-the-century arrival of an era called Aquarian Age.
New Age cultists and Mystics seek a divine being within themselves and strive to be an integral, conscious element of the universe. God becomes the self and the self becomes God. New Agers have their own buzzword known as it-autarchy. Basically, it asserts government by self. Hence, the political agenda of the New Age movement ranges from abortion rights to gay rights, even animal rights. For some, it includes polygamous privileges, prostitution, gambling, and for the most extreme drugs.
The New Age rage is intended to become a new world order in which all become one. Remember, all is one, one is God, you are one, and you are......that's right, God. And since the God in you makes all the decisions, then whatever you decide is right. And if someone disagrees? Well, there is the rub.
The Christian world view is quite different. God's "shalt not" is not an obvious avoidance of each circumstance's merit, but rather divine perspective that knows the source of ultimate good. Disobedience to God always brings heartache and dysfunction, not because God has arbitrarily ruled so, but because His character is the stabilizing force of the universe.
Thus, divine law is an extension of divine character. The Ten Commandments weren't meant to be the Ten Suggestions. They represent truth that is fundamental to the perpetuity of human good, just as the laws of thermodynamics are crucial to the continuance of the material universe.
One must wonder what's next on the New Age agenda. When they have exorcised all moral law from society's cognizance, will they next, deny gravity its binding role in the universe? Any solution to the human condition that ignores the heart's depravity and God's transcendent wisdom will not usher in the New Age. It can only perpetrate an old lie. Esoteric half-truths do not lead to God. They are manifestations of the "the secret power of lawlessness" spoken of in 2nd Thessalonians 2:7. The marvelous insights and fascinating knowledge New Agers acquire are the "signs and lying wonders" of Satan and his Antichrist. Symbols of the New Age are the rainbow, globe, lotus flower, mandala and dove.
New Age stuff can be just as blind as old age stuff. Psuedo-enlightenment is the fruits of the ego.
But none of the new age stuff should detract from the blindness in books like the bible regarding the personality of a God Creator, the borrowed stories, twisting of simple truths into structural domination of the masses, and more if I could be bothered to think about it.
In other words, new age is not your get out clause Miracles.
Only ego likes to destract one BS by appealing to another kind of perceived BS. I'm sure new age has got some great people within it, and some ego heads.
A system isn't needed, it's written into nature and the universe as is. Anyone with perception will come to understand reason and a God they can believe in. Even those that don't feel they can believe in a God can still express the fruits that help their fellow men, not hinder or falsely portray a God sending most of his creation to hell. And we know that both religious types and non religious types can abuse life and each other.
If this bible picture of a God can't even set an example regarding murder and theft and jealousy, there is a nice word to describe that......starts with an H.
So yes, things like reincarnation do make sense. There is abundant evidence for it in studies like in "Journey of Souls" , with hundreds of people all talking of a similar "in-between" state, where they reflect over one life's lessons and actions, and come back to further refine and experience. None of these peopel know each other. They are all seperate cases, yet each reflect on the same theme. Look out for Dr Michael Newton on you tube, or read his books.
In that light, the need for a "saviour" is the lessor of the two general ideas regarding how a spirit reaches enlightenment. One shows no faith in humans, and the other is a far deeper system where spirits get there through free will.
In your system you have a God that actually thinks it's righteous to kill babies. What a shame for you that many people nowadays find the idea of that repulsive, and probably wouldn't want what this God has to offer. It's bad enough having humans that go around doing that. We don't want them in our society, and we don't want a God that acts the way the bible portrays.
It's better that the bible isn't the "word of God". Better for God anyway.
fallensoul
19-08-2009, 08:42 PM
tannah I am falling in love with your mind :D
seanx
19-08-2009, 08:45 PM
Miracles wrote
New Age
New Age is an old adage. Like medieval metaphysicians and ancient Eastern mystics, the cult of New Age hails man and his paramount powers as center of the spiritual universe. For centuries, people have endeavored to consecrate themselves and evoke the mysteries of spirituality.
New Agers believe a "Copernican threshold" must be crossed to uncover the mystery of mankind's relationship to universal spiritual truth. Only then the present confrontational system of differing faiths will be replaced with a worldwide oneness of soul and spirit. Discovering this spiritual symbiosis is the globalistic goal of all New Age religious pilgrimages. Whereas past religions looked outward to the sun, moon, stars, and cosmic forces, those in the New Age who aspire to know hidden truths journey inward to find collective connection with the One Cause.
The New Age search is really a very old examination of occultism's principles and practices. Reincarnation, astrology, astral projection, soul travel, shamanism, goddess worship, visualization and affirmations of inner deity are not new modes of spirituality. They are ancient ways of claiming to reveal the link between man and God. The term New Age represents this consciousness, as well as the astrological prediction of the end-of-the-century arrival of an era called Aquarian Age.
New Age cultists and Mystics seek a divine being within themselves and strive to be an integral, conscious element of the universe. God becomes the self and the self becomes God. New Agers have their own buzzword known as it-autarchy. Basically, it asserts government by self. Hence, the political agenda of the New Age movement ranges from abortion rights to gay rights, even animal rights. For some, it includes polygamous privileges, prostitution, gambling, and for the most extreme drugs.
The New Age rage is intended to become a new world order in which all become one. Remember, all is one, one is God, you are one, and you are......that's right, God. And since the God in you makes all the decisions, then whatever you decide is right. And if someone disagrees? Well, there is the rub.
The Christian world view is quite different. God's "shalt not" is not an obvious avoidance of each circumstance's merit, but rather divine perspective that knows the source of ultimate good. Disobedience to God always brings heartache and dysfunction, not because God has arbitrarily ruled so, but because His character is the stabilizing force of the universe.
Thus, divine law is an extension of divine character. The Ten Commandments weren't meant to be the Ten Suggestions. They represent truth that is fundamental to the perpetuity of human good, just as the laws of thermodynamics are crucial to the continuance of the material universe.
One must wonder what's next on the New Age agenda. When they have exorcised all moral law from society's cognizance, will they next, deny gravity its binding role in the universe? Any solution to the human condition that ignores the heart's depravity and God's transcendent wisdom will not usher in the New Age. It can only perpetrate an old lie. Esoteric half-truths do not lead to God. They are manifestations of the "the secret power of lawlessness" spoken of in 2nd Thessalonians 2:7. The marvelous insights and fascinating knowledge New Agers acquire are the "signs and lying wonders" of Satan and his Antichrist. Symbols of the New Age are the rainbow, globe, lotus flower, mandala and dove.
Sorry mate, but this is just rubbish you have copied and pasted from some nutty right wing christian web site.
As for the above, typical rubbish written by people who are totally programmed in the christainity mind-control program .
seanx
19-08-2009, 08:50 PM
stfd wrote:
So basically Icke is God yes.
And since Icke is a man results man is God.
Which means all men are God(s) yes?
is b.s. greatest b.s. in the history of mankind.
Really?
Yet core christianity before it was 'taken over' and polluted by
the Elite says that God is OMNIPRESENCE.
That means ALL of him is present EVERYWHERE - so then
all is God.
So real chrisitanity too says we are all God at different levels
of awareness.
stfd wrote:
Really?
Yet core christianity before it was 'taken over' and polluted by
the Elite says that God is OMNIPRESENCE.
That means ALL of him is present EVERYWHERE - so then
all is God.
So real chrisitanity too says we are all God at different levels
of awareness.
So you are a Christian, yes ?
tannah
19-08-2009, 09:18 PM
tannah I am falling in love with your mind :D
:o Thanks for the blush!
Love, love, love, love, love, love, love, love, love.
There's nothing you can do that can't be done.
Nothing you can sing that can't be sung.
Nothing you can say but you can learn how to play the game
It's easy.
There's nothing you can make that can't be made.
No one you can save that can't be saved.
Nothing you can do but you can learn how to be you
in time - It's easy.
All you need is love, all you need is love,
All you need is love, love, love is all you need.
Love, love, love, love, love, love, love, love, love.
All you need is love, all you need is love,
All you need is love, love, love is all you need.
There's nothing you can know that isn't known.
Nothing you can see that isn't shown.
Nowhere you can be that isn't where you're meant to be.
It's easy.
All you need is love, all you need is love,
All you need is love, love, love is all you need.
All you need is love (all together now)
All you need is love (everybody)
All you need is love, love, love is all you need.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?gl=GB&hl=en-GB&v=NzJ2NKp23WU
miracles
20-08-2009, 07:00 AM
tannah I am falling in love with your mind :D
Oh dear, we have truely decended to a real low. :eek:
miracles
20-08-2009, 07:04 AM
you just said yourself that a 'christian' is someone with the 'spirit of God within them'.. That's exactly what the 'new-age' perception is. The difference is people still grasp to primitive way of thinking that this 'god' is a deity to be worshipped. How is that possible when God is everywhere? It's simple: God IS everywhere because God is infinite conciousness. Jesus was a psuedo-guru much like Icke is.
The spirt of God enters in only when a man repents, confesses is sinful condition before God, and confess that Jesus Christ is Lord and then ask God to save Him.
God can not even look at sin. So eh does not live inside an unregenerated sinful vessel.
God resists the proud and embraces the humble. You guy curse God, and think you are gods. Get freaken real.
miracles
20-08-2009, 07:11 AM
[quote=tannah;1205577]:o Thanks for the blush!
Blah, Blah, Blah, Blah, Blah, Blah, Blah, Blah, Blah.
There's nothing you can do, youve come un-done.
Nothing you can say that isn't dung.
Nothing you can say coz your a pawn in their evil game
It's sleasy.
There's nothing you can fake that can't be seen.
No one can save you, especially not you
Nothing you can do its obvious your a fool
It's makes me queezy
All you need is a frontal lobotomy x 10,
There's nothing you can know coz you know nothing.
Nothing you can see because your blind.
Nowhere you can be that isn't deep in the shit.
It's so cheesy
All you need is a frontal lobotomy x 10
boots
20-08-2009, 07:37 AM
The spirt of God enters in only when a man repents, confesses is sinful condition before God, and confess that Jesus Christ is Lord and then ask God to save Him.
God can not even look at sin. So eh does not live inside an unregenerated sinful vessel.
God resists the proud and embraces the humble. You guy curse God, and think you are gods. Get freaken real.
Total rubbish.
If thats your god then to hell with him.
I'm a co creator. SO do you call me a sinner, miracles.
BTW. Jesus was a stoner. LOL
the om
20-08-2009, 07:54 AM
Miracles, (Hi again, btw) I can relate to what I think is the basic idea that you're talking about for the New Age thought system, in that people forget that it is very much a continuation of a thought system that was supressed a long time ago. But the beauty of it is that it expands the thoughts, and unites them. Let me give you an example. I know a few people who have combined what they see as 'acceptable' or 'believable' new age (and thus ancient) thought with their Judeo-Christian beliefs. And let me tell you something, they make for some pretty interesting people. The conversations are incredible. I mean, the sheer power of their thoughts are mind blowing... Anyhow, I digress. New age thought in and of itself isn't evil. Though, I will agree that there are many aspects of it that have been twisted and contorted beyond recognition for a profit (lets look at psychic readings on the roadside or at a carnival or something similar), which I find absolutely despicable.
But as ones who are on the path to awakening, its up to us to decide for ourselves what is right for us as an individual. There is no single right answer, and its a dilemma that can't be solved (much like the philosophical conundrum that states 'I am the only conscious one, and there is nothing you can do to disprove me'). Because lets face it, there simply cannot be a single religion or doctrine that everyone in the world could relate to. There are simply too many cultures and belief systems out there for it to happen. But what makes anything right for the individual is simple belief. Trust that whatever God is actually up there (or in here, we can't really know) will see that we paid homage to it in the way that we saw as fit, and in which we could believe the most. It is said in the Christian faith that we are all children of God. Now what father wouldn't love his children because they paid tribute to him in ways that they saw as best fitting?
Peace
Oh yeah, and STFD, what you said in response to kappy0405's post about Jesus being a guru makes no sense whatsoever... You said that since Icke is similar to Jesus, he must be God. Jesus wasn't god, he was the Son of God according to the Christian belief.
Nuther edit: I just saw that there has been a little bit of a conversation on the idea of 'sin' developing between Miracles and Boots, and thought I'd add this in to stir the pot a little bit... The New Testament was written in Ancient Greek. Now, unless I'm mistaken, the New Testament is the first place in which 'Sin' is brought up (not the idea of it, the specific word). Now, can anyone tell me what the meaning of the word 'Sin' in ancient Greek is?
(I hope you're sitting down, because this is incredibly ironic...)
(You sitting down yet?)
The meaning of the word is 'to misunderstand'. Look it up if you don't believe me.
miracles
20-08-2009, 08:34 AM
Miracles, (Hi again, btw) I can relate to what I think is the basic idea that you're talking about for the New Age thought system, in that people forget that it is very much a continuation of a thought system that was supressed a long time ago. But the beauty of it is that it expands the thoughts, and unites them. Let me give you an example. I know a few people who have combined what they see as 'acceptable' or 'believable' new age (and thus ancient) thought with their Judeo-Christian beliefs. And let me tell you something, they make for some pretty interesting people. The conversations are incredible. I mean, the sheer power of their thoughts are mind blowing... Anyhow, I digress. New age thought in and of itself isn't evil. Though, I will agree that there are many aspects of it that have been twisted and contorted beyond recognition for a profit (lets look at psychic readings on the roadside or at a carnival or something similar), which I find absolutely despicable.
But as ones who are on the path to awakening, its up to us to decide for ourselves what is right for us as an individual. There is no single right answer, and its a dilemma that can't be solved (much like the philosophical conundrum that states 'I am the only conscious one, and there is nothing you can do to disprove me'). Because lets face it, there simply cannot be a single religion or doctrine that everyone in the world could relate to. There are simply too many cultures and belief systems out there for it to happen. But what makes anything right for the individual is simple belief. Trust that whatever God is actually up there (or in here, we can't really know) will see that we paid homage to it in the way that we saw as fit, and in which we could believe the most. It is said in the Christian faith that we are all children of God. Now what father wouldn't love his children because they paid tribute to him in ways that they saw as best fitting?
Peace
Oh yeah, and STFD, what you said in response to kappy0405's post about Jesus being a guru makes no sense whatsoever... You said that since Icke is similar to Jesus, he must be God. Jesus wasn't god, he was the Son of God according to the Christian belief.
Nuther edit: I just saw that there has been a little bit of a conversation on the idea of 'sin' developing between Miracles and Boots, and thought I'd add this in to stir the pot a little bit... The New Testament was written in Ancient Greek. Now, unless I'm mistaken, the New Testament is the first place in which 'Sin' is brought up (not the idea of it, the specific word). Now, can anyone tell me what the meaning of the word 'Sin' in ancient Greek is?
(I hope you're sitting down, because this is incredibly ironic...)
(You sitting down yet?)
The meaning of the word is 'to misunderstand'. Look it up if you don't believe me.
Hi Omm
What do you mean by "awakening"?
Jesus was and is God, accordingto the Christian Belief. IE father, son, holy spirirt, all the same God.
the om
20-08-2009, 08:41 AM
What do I mean by awakening? Becoming more aware of your surroundings and what they demand, I guess. Not even anything to do with Political conspiracies or Spiritual developments. Just being more able to act upon the information that is presented from your surroundings (whether they be friends, trees, storms or waves).
And about the Jesus thing, I actually didn't know that... :o I thought he was / is the Son of God (hence the Father (God) Son (Jesus) and the Holy Spirit). I think thats material for a different thread though.
miracles
20-08-2009, 08:52 AM
What do I mean by awakening? Becoming more aware of your surroundings and what they demand, I guess. Not even anything to do with Political conspiracies or Spiritual developments. Just being more able to act upon the information that is presented from your surroundings (whether they be friends, trees, storms or waves).
And about the Jesus thing, I actually didn't know that... :o I thought he was / is the Son of God (hence the Father (God) Son (Jesus) and the Holy Spirit). I think thats material for a different thread though.
I see what you mean.
miracles
20-08-2009, 09:51 AM
Total rubbish.
If thats your god then to hell with him.
I'm a co creator. SO do you call me a sinner, miracles.
BTW. Jesus was a stoner. LOL
To hell with what you think. LOL.
boots
20-08-2009, 10:39 AM
To hell with what you think. LOL.
:eek:
Now thats not very Christian like miracles.
:D:D
EDIT: for miracles.
Sorry dude. As a matter of fact I dont smoke weed.;) That article was from the DI headlines.
miracles
20-08-2009, 11:50 AM
:eek:
Now thats not very Christian like miracles.
Smoke a bong and read it again when you've got your sense of humor back.
boots
20-08-2009, 12:27 PM
Smoke a bong and read it again when you've got your sense of humor back.
You know I love you!!!:)
kappy0405
20-08-2009, 06:32 PM
The spirt of God enters in only when a man repents, confesses is sinful condition before God, and confess that Jesus Christ is Lord and then ask God to save Him.
God can not even look at sin. So eh does not live inside an unregenerated sinful vessel.
accepting 'God' simply means accepting your place in the oneness that is infinite consciousness. A person stuck in the material world could be considered a 'sinful vessel' because they don't understand (as OM pointed out). When said person 'repents/confesses' in that condition, they are acknowledging 'God' - infinite consciousness - no longer 'sinners' because they now understand. The God=infinite consciousness makes perfect sense with what you said there. Acknowledging that Jesus is Lord is fine. After all, we all are.. even according to him!
Jesus said, "the kingdom is within you, and it is outside of you. When you know yourselves, then you will be known, and you will know that you are the sons of the Father."
Find 'God' by finding yourself.
God resists the proud and embraces the humble. You guy curse God, and think you are gods. Get freaken real.
the humble don't tell people they're going to hell. We don't think we are Gods, we are 'God' - one.
thank you Jesus. :cool:
miracles
21-08-2009, 02:30 AM
You know I love you!!!:)
Right back at ya, your bootiful! :)
tannah
21-08-2009, 03:35 AM
I walked away from the faith once
Jesus didn't allow that. He said that once you believed you were then the salt of the earth, and if you lost your saltiness how could you become salty again.
By believing and then disbelieving you would be commtting a sin against the holy spirit.
Your coming back to faith is a fake.
miracles
21-08-2009, 04:37 AM
Jesus didn't allow that. He said that once you believed you were then the salt of the earth, and if you lost your saltiness how could you become salty again.
By believing and then disbelieving you would be commtting a sin against the holy spirit.
Your coming back to faith is a fake.
Dont quote scripture to me Mop you have zero understanding of the bible, less that zero.
tannah
21-08-2009, 04:48 AM
Dont quote scripture to me Mop you have zero understanding of the bible, less that zero.
Hey God shouldda put a (C) notice on it. And you're a sore one aren't you?
miracles
21-08-2009, 04:50 AM
Hey God shouldda put a (C) notice on it. And you're a sore one aren't you?
What ever floats your boat, you need some form of floatation device coz its on the bottom of an ocean of piss.
tannah
21-08-2009, 04:56 AM
What every floats your boat, you need some form of floatation device coz its on the bottom of an ocean of piss.
:)
See fella, you ignore the invitation to explain your position and are back on the charachter attacks.
miracles
21-08-2009, 06:32 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MaYZzaVE0Vk&feature=related
What do you expect from an addict fallessa?
miracles
21-08-2009, 11:39 AM
accepting 'God' simply means accepting your place in the oneness that is infinite consciousness. A person stuck in the material world could be considered a 'sinful vessel' because they don't understand (as OM pointed out). When said person 'repents/confesses' in that condition, they are acknowledging 'God' - infinite consciousness - no longer 'sinners' because they now understand. The God=infinite consciousness makes perfect sense with what you said there. Acknowledging that Jesus is Lord is fine. After all, we all are.. even according to him!
Jesus said, "the kingdom is within you, and it is outside of you. When you know yourselves, then you will be known, and you will know that you are the sons of the Father."
Find 'God' by finding yourself.
the humble don't tell people they're going to hell. We don't think we are Gods, we are 'God' - one.
thank you Jesus. :cool:
The fact that you acknowledge a need to repent and confess shows me that you arent stupid.