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worlds beyond

19-08-2009, 12:15 AM

Hello,

I couldn't find any threads on this subject in the first 9 pages of this sub-forum, so just wondering.... have any of you had an NDE? And would you care to share your experience on here? Also, did it lead to any significant or interesting changes or events in your life afterwards?

I had an NDE in hospital, 22 years ago, and I can recall what happened as if it happened just this morning. This was followed by several years of weird and wonderful 'happenings' (as I call them).

In past 4 years, these 'happenings' have started up again. Involuntarily I might add. They started again on the exact day on which I suddenly became very ill, with a serious, long term medical condition, which has now rendered me disabled.

I'm still having all sorts of these experiences, from 'visions' to clairaudience to travelling to 'other dimensions' (definitely not dreams!) and messages from what I can only call Spirit world - not random spitits (and not interglactic Guides!), but real people I have personally known in this life, who have passed on from this world many years ago.

Some of what I have experienced and been shown seems to relate to coming events in this world. Things I had no knowldge of or interest in before these experiences happened.

I'm keen to hear others' experiences... before sharing more details of my own (not feeling 100% certain of telling all of it too quickly on a public forum I'm new to!).

Best wishes :)

relax

19-08-2009, 02:52 AM

I wish I had some stories to tell you even though ive tried astral projecting quite a few times, havent yet been sucessful.

So spill lets hear your stories, its a public forum, its anonymous they cant be that embarassing.

fairyelfdog

19-08-2009, 03:45 PM

Welcome, worlds beyond! I understand your hesitation. I wouldn't tell in the general section but when you feel ready, talking about it here isn't as bad, I suspect :) I sure would like to hear it. I spent so much of my youth reading about nde's. I'll never tire of it. :) I, at least, respect your experience and understand where you are coming from. I also respect your choice to talk about it or not to talk about it.

Hugs

Kara

worlds beyond

24-08-2009, 02:02 PM

Thanks for replies. Ok, here goes...

The NDE I experienced opprox 22 years ago.... it only lasted a few minutes (earthly time, in a clinical sense), yet it felt like SO much longer. It was simply the most amazing, beautiful thing I have ever, ever experienced... just talking about it still makes my whole body tingle and sort of glow inside. It's as clear and vivid as if it happened an hour ago.

I was in a very bad way, in hospital, when I just remember the Doctor's voice saying "nothing else we can do" to someone, at the same moment I realised I had somehow floated upwards, out of my own body, and was floating upwards towards the ceiling of the hospital room. I could feel my back physically pressed against the ceiling of the hospital room. I was watching the Doctor and two nurses moving around my own body, lying on the bed below, they were talking, I could CLEARLY hear what they were saying..It felt I was floating there for about a minute. I felt strangely calm, deeply calm and incredibly peaceful, just observing, quietly.

Next thing, I was pulled up through the ceiling and seemed to be whizzed off somewhere else, at incredible speed. Next thing I knew, I was floating/flying down a very long tunnel, miles and miles long, very dark and empty, and I could feel the speed I was flying at was fairly fast, as it was like wind flowing over me an through my hair etc. I felt incredibly calm and peaceful still, no fear at all. I could see miles into the distance and at the end of this long dark tunnel was a massively bright white light. Intensely bright white, almost blinding. The tunnel felt cold, dark and windy, yet I felt an OVERWHELMING, all pervasive sense of deep DEEP peace, joy and calm. Like being enveloped in a warm bubble bath or a blanket of sheer calm, bliss and peace . It was like nothing I can ever adequately describe, nor anything I have ever experienced on earth (prior or since the NDE).

When I got to the end of the tunnel, and to the brilliant white light, I found myself now floating along on what seemed to be thin air. Just clear, light, empty space; bright and clear, like crystal clear air. I suddenly felt a rush of immense joy welling up inside me, felt SO uplifted and so so peaceful and incredibly happy. And, I very clearly remember, for the first time ever, I experienced what it felt like to feel truly FREE, as if every atom of my being was free and filled with light.

As I was floating along (more like 'being floated along' by some external force), there appeared a quite high stone wall, running for miles and miles on my right hand side, and even though it was high (maybe 10 ft high?), I could actually float up a little bit and see over the top of it.

What I saw, over this stone wall, was simply the MOST BEAUTIFUL, MOST PEACEFUL and most AMAZING place I could ever imagine. Wide, panoramic gardens/landscape, with rivers, ponds, fountains, flowers, trees, hills, meadows, valleys, etc etc. It was breathtakingly beautiful. Yet, the most incredible thing about this place was the colour. The colours of everything were so incredibly bright and vivid, almost irridescent and glowing, as if they were alive in some strange way. It was like no landscape at all on earth.. more like a super-technicolour, really vivid and amazingly beautiful colours, almost like crystal clear, vibrant, radiating colours.

There were a few distinct features which stood out immediately to me, a few pathways which looked like irridescent glass or something, astonishingly beautiful colours, these paths lead off into an invisible distance, as there seemed to be no end to the landscape.

There was also one very interesting and unusual building, the only building I could see in the whole place. It was quite small, quite simple, and I can only accurately describe it as like a cross between a garden gazebo/summer house and a domed temple, almost like a mosque dome, of what appeared to be gold and light. The most intense golden light was shining out through this building, almost in rays, out onto the surrounding landscape. I somehow knew that one by one everyone had to go inside this building at some point.

There were comfortable seats and benches dotted around, all over the gardens and into the distance, with quite a lot of people. Yes, what seemed to be ordinary people sat around, peacefully chatting, all in quiet, gentle way, like a sense of soft whispering, some were in small groups under trees, some sat on the grass, some walking down the pathways. I couldn't hear any actual words or voices, it was as if they were communicating with each other without speech, and I had an awareness that they were having conversations. Thay seemed to be wearing some kind of robes, or garments, not earthly clothes, but they were very definitely human! There was a DEEP sense of peace and calm amongst everyone. I felt very clearly like they were "waiting". As if this was some kind of "waiting" or "reception" area.

It felt like a gentle summer day, warm, comfortable, and I was happily floating along this wall, looking over the top into this landscape, when quite suddenly a gate appeared just up ahead. An ordinary looking, old-fashioned tall wooden garden gate, the type they used to have in old stone walls or gardens. As I was floating nearer this gate, I could see a figure stood (floating on this crystal clear air just like me!) next to it.
It seemed to take me a while to get up close (the floating sensation/my movements were not being dictated by me, but by some other energy/power carrying me along, at a gentle pace).

Anyway, I finally reached this gate, and there in front of me, large as life and as real as I am sat here now, was my maternal Grandmother, bless her soul, who passed away when I was 5 years old (38 years ago). My family never really talked about her (nor about any of our Grandparents!), so I didn't really have many memories of her when I was a child and growing up.

There she was, real as anything, no ghostly apparition, but real and solid like I could have reached out and touched her, she was calmly stood there, totally alive, well, real and looking lovely and radiant (she 'died' of lung cancer).

She smiled such a warm and loving smile, and I felt her hug me, even though she didn't touch me at all, I could physically feel her arms wrapping around me and such a huge wave of love. She gave me the most warm and loving cuddle ever. It was wonderful, and so real, even though it appeared she didn't actually move or touch me at all. I felt the most incredible love and peace and happiness and calm, both inside me and in this place, in all these people, like nothing I've ever felt here on earth. Such deep calm and peace and love.

I clearly remember all of this like it just happened this morning. I felt SO happy. My Gran spoke to me, her voice clear an alive, even though her mouth didn't move from the smile she was wearing, I sensed she was talking directly to my brain/mind, like there was no spoken words yet I could clearly understand what she was saying. She gave me a very clear message (3 very clear sentences which will live with me forever) including: "We are not ready for you yet" and that I had to "Go back down" and "there is something you have to do. It's your purpose". She then smiled at me so warmly, it seemed to infuse me with peace and love and joy.

Then, in what felt like a split second, I was being 'floated' backwards, at far greater speed this time, all the way back along the wall, as I watched my Gran disappearing in the distance, I was 'floated' all the way back towards and through the tunnel, all the time backwards, still facing where I had just been, and then I felt myself actually floating back intoo my body, which coincided with such a resounding "THUD" that my whole body did a massive jolt/spasm (like those dreams where you're falling off a cliff and you jolt as you wake up, only 100 greater in strength). And this is when I apparently suddenly 'awoke', and regained 'vital signs', on the hospital bed.

Well, that was over 22 years ago, I mae a full recovery and had good health for many years afterwards. It was a miracle to me. And it was the start of a lot of things happening for me in my life, including my awakening/interest in spiritual matters (I was 21, had prior knowledge or exposure to anything Spiritual or related to Near Death Experiences or the Afterlife).

After that, for a few years, I'd sometimes have a really strong sense that my Gran was around me, like I could sense her in the room occasionally, and once or twice I could have sworn I actually heard her speak, but I convinced myself I must have been imagining it! I never spoke about these things to anybody for years and years, apart from one close friend. I never did anything to 'contact' my Gran, or to develop any 'skills' in that area (to be honest, the idea of that sort of thing scared me a bit!), but I did start to read a lot of books about all sorts of spiritual subjects, from Elisabeth Kubler-Ross to The Tibetan Book of Living an Dying etc.

Then, in 2006, I suddenly became very ill. It started one weekend when I had gone into town to get some small gifts one cold Saturday morning before Christmas. I was feeling OK, just a little like I was getting a cold. Anyway, there was a Farmer's Market setting up in the town square. It was around 9.00am, and I was just looking at one of the Farmer's stalls, when I had another mind-blowing and life-altering experience.

My Grandfather (Father's side) passed about 25 years ago, when I was in my teens. Well, this Saturday morning, my Grandfather suddenly appeared right next to me, in broad daylight, in the middle of town, real as REAL can be. And he SPOKE with me. Out loud. Just as any human alive and kicking would. I swear before God this was real. He was real flesh and speaking just like normal. And it WAS definitely him. Just as I remember him. Stood there, flesh and bone and real as I am writing this now.

I froze on the spot, as I didn't quite realise what was happening at first. I was stood at the stall and my Grandfather just suddenly appeared next to me, on my right side, as I was chatting to the Market Stall-holder. He started laughing and made a joke about me looking at the Game stall (as I'd been Vegetarian for many years), and I laughed too. Then he seemed to come very close to me and I turned to look at his face and it was as if I couldn't remember anything. For a weird few moments, I felt like everything else "disappeared", the market, the public, the town centre, and I felt I was just stood there alone with my Grandad, who was looking at me, so strongly, yet nicely, like he was looking right inside me. His gaze was incredibly powerful, as if I couldn't take my eyes off his eyes for what felt like ages. He seemed to be letting me know something, that's the sense I got, though I cannot say what it was exactly. Then, the stall-holder said something, and in an instant the whole thing changed back to 'normal'. I turned to answer the stall-holder and pay for something I was buying, it was the briefest of moments, yet when I did so, I instantly realised my Grandad had totally vanished. I mean, gone. I stood there in some disbelief. I looked all around, he was nowhere to be seen. I asked the stall-holder if he saw where he'd gone and he said he hadn't noticed him leave!

As I walked away from the stall, I realised there was hardly anybody around other than stall-holders, and this is only a small town Square, so he couldn't have got out of sight so quickly if walking anywhere. Then I had the most overwhelming sense that somebody was right behind me, very very close as I was walking. Instead of feeling uncomfortable, I suddenly felt as light as a feather and like I didn't have a care in the world.. I got the clear sense Grandad was there with me, behind me, then I heard him laugh, clear as day, out loud. I immediately I spun around to see him, but there was nobody at all there, and nobody anywhere nearby. I felt a bit spooked, but also strangely light and happy!

All that day I had the strangest and weirdest feeling that somehow I had been given some kind of message by him, when he was gazing into my eyes so strangely, but I couldn't quite work out what it was.

The past 3 years, since that happened, I've had many regular spiritual 'happenings' as I call them, some witnessed in public or by others, and further evidence of Life after Death, in the form of messages, visits, and 'happenings', from both my Grandmother and also my Grandfather. This has all happened at the same time I have developed a serious health condition which has radically altered my life/circumstances!

I've been 'shown' so many things.. daytime visions, items appearing/disappearing, have been taken on 'journeys', I mean off this planet, but REAL journeys (not dreams) and also given many many messages (usually audiably). Some of these things I'm still trying to understand/work out what they mean and what I'm meant to do with them.. and some are, I believe, related to the world's (possible) future. I'm no psychic or anything like that, but I know I've been shown things which relate to a future time on earth. Possibly in this lifetime too. Some of the things I've been shown/told by Spirit have already happened, which was not only to my various friends' amazement, but my own too!!

I did tell a few close friends and family some of the things I was shown at the beginning of this happening, but unfortunately some chose not to believe any of it, in spite of tangible evidence given. However, almost everything I told them, has since come true, and some of those events Spirit fortold me of have been mainstream news events in the past 12-18 months.

I have to point out here, that I cannot predict anything, and have no skills as such. I'm not a medium or psychic or anything like that. I'm just an ordinary person, and very down to earth, who happends to have had a lot of weird and wonderful things happn the past 3 years, since I saw my deceased Grandad and also became ill ! I don't choose when or how I am contacted or shown things, it happens involuntarily. And that in itself has caused me some uncomfortable and occasionally scary moments! I didn't ask for or indeed know any of these things would happen in my life, and have been as skeptical as anyone else of some of the things I have been expereincing myself.. needing them to be repeated several times over before I finally "get it" and believe it's real and not my imagination or coincidence or something (Spirit have been known to call me "Stubborn" :D)

One of the things I have dreamed repeatedly since I was a child is massive, mega tidal waves, more like a sky-scraper-high wall of water, running over most of the earth. The water comes up to the tops of the highest mountains. Now, since 2006 I have been shown this again, repeatedly, in clearest detail. Only this time, not in dreams, but in daytime visions too. However, one big difference, is that in the visions I am shown now, as an adult during past 3 years, is the water is red. And the earth (land/rocks on tops of mountains etc) is also red. Not blood, but red water, and a red dust covering the remaining visible land. I am also shown a very clear image each time this is shown, of a pathway of golden light leading up from the tops of the mountains up into the sky and into the next "dimension" or "realm". These visions have been so powerful and clear and regular, that I have done several paintings of this 'vision' in 2006 and 2007, which were shown to friends at the time I made them. One of my friends asked to have one of these paintings, and has it hanging in her home, signed and dated May 2007.

Then, last year (2008), someone told me about a trailer for a film called '2012, and as I watched it, the hairs on the back of my neck stood up and my spine tingled cold, as the opening sequence of the Water above the Himalayan mountains is what I have been repeatedly shown these past years, except in mine, the water is red. But the picture of the tide coming up over the mountain tops is EXACTLY what I've been seeing.

Another 'happening" since 2006, is being repeatedly woken at 2am on the dot, until 4am, and "asked" (by a Spirit voice) to 'write'. I cannot really explain this, except to say, that it was several months of this happening before I plucked up the courage to do as I was being asked. I sat bleary eyed and exhausted, nght after night, for months, writing (or being written through!) pages and notepads full of things I was being 'told'. I cannot say this was an easy or welcome experience. In some ways, I was quite frightened. Especially when the following days I would read what I had been asked to write, and realised that the handwriting was not the same as mine, and some of the words and expressions used were not familiar to me (even having to refer to the dictionary sometimes to understand what "I" had written). Well, several of the things that were written and dated early 2007, came to pass in reality a year later. These were events which would happen in the lives of two of my close friends. Other things I wrote down in 2007, about what would happen, were on a more global scale, some have already happened in 2008 and since. Some are still to come, but I am not given any dates or timescales, other than the occasional "soon" or "within this lifetime".

However, one thing that was very interesting, was that I repeatedly wrote (and was told audibly) that "One day, Spirit will walk the Earth, clear as day, for all to see." I have been told this exact same sentence, SO many times, from the same Spirit voices, and been asked to write it too, that it has become like a constant theme through the writings and experiences I've had.

I've also been taught that the Humming/Buzzing in my ears (experienced since 2006) is a signal that Spirit are nearby me, and want to communicate, and when I hear it, I now know it means I need to make space/time to 'receive' their 'news'. If I ignore it, it usually just gets more and more loud and constant until I cannot avoid listening !!

I have been taken on journeys, by what I can only term "Spirit", journeys off Earth, but sometimes looking back at Earth (as if viewing the moon from earth), and shown and told things which will happen. These are not dreams. Sometimes these happen during the daytime. And NOT as a result of anything I am doing to precipitate them either, they happen without any warning, or preparation on my part!

I've also been taken to a place that I can only describe as a 'Crystal' City with a Crystal-like Cathedral type building, and also a massive, massive Library made out of some sort of light and Crystal structures. Beautiful architecture made from light and crytals and such amazing colours. I have been taken to this Library several times, and told this is the "Hall of Records".

On these 'journeys', I am very aware I am with someone in Spirit, i.e. someone who previously lived on Earth, who has since passed over. Not My Gran or Grandad either, but always the same Spirit being. I think at a higher level, am not sure, but they seem to be able to enable me to "fly" and do things I couldn't possibly do in this "realm".

I am still trying to make sense and understand some of the 'happenings', visions and messages I've had from Spirit in the past 3 years.... but one thing I am certain of, is that something is definitely going to be happening, in this lifetime... be it 2012 or later, or whether it be the tidal waves and red earth I have seen, or some other, different events, I really do not know for sure, even though I know what I;ve been shown was SO real ... whatever comes, I have a very strong feeling that there will be NO "safe places".. as in, this will affect everyone... I mean, EVERYONE!

I am also told that we are each here on earth with a specific purpose, we came here to fulfill that purpose (and it might be surprising for some people to learn that their true purpose is not what they fervently believe it to be!), but that most people have 'forgotten' this fact, and their lives and 'raison d'etre' have become enmeshed in the material / "man-made" world.

Those who on the other side of the veil, i.e. Spirit beings, are desperate for us who are on Earth at this time to wake up and listen to them, for us humans to stop being so "blinkered", and to be humble enough to ask for Spirit's higher guidance (and then to be gracious and wise enough to listen for it when it is being given!). We all have Guides, Helpers, Love ones and Guardians on the other side of the veil. Not some made-up characters from some intergalatic alien space station, but Spirit who have walked this earth before us, who know us, who watch us, and are unique to us, and are ready and waiting to help us on our individual journey in this lifetime here on Earth. Believe me, they are all lined up waiting, wanting to help each and every one of us... if only we would reach out to them and ask for their highest assistance, instead of thinking we have all the answers, or can somehow muddle through. We have an untapped wealth of help and guidance available from TRUTHFUL higher sources... no phoneys, no fakes, no PTB, but beings of pure TRUTH, with a much higher/broader Perspective on our lives/Earth's events than we have!

Anyway, whatever does transpire, be it 2011, 2012 or 2000-and whatever, I get an overwhelming sense that events on Earth will ultimately lead to a much, much greater understanding of matters of "Spirit", and our ability to communicate and interact with Spirit directly, leading to a whole quantum leap in our own understanding and development of ourselves as Spiritual beings.

Anyway, I feel I have shared quite a lot of personal stuff on here now. Perhaps too much!

The reason for posting is that I've felt increasingly in recent months that I need to share this info, not for me or for any personal gain, but perhaps because it might help one or two others in some way??

Am not sure how I can help, or even IF I can help anyone, in any way. I'm no expert or anything, like I said. But I hope in sharing my most special and precious experiences, it might help just one other person, in some small way.

I would love to hear some of your experiences of NDE's and Spiritual experiences.

gizmocrystal

24-08-2009, 02:38 PM

dmt head

24-08-2009, 02:43 PM

Ive got a few things to do atm but ill read your experience later today worlds beyond.

I posted this in response to has anyone ever experienced oneness, it was an actual death experience, helped me feel better about the fear of death etc after smoking dmt.

I fell into this huge dome thing and these aliens/spirits/entities raped me until I exploded and didnt have a body. It was all in the name of love though and was amazing though very confucisng as many things were doing it to me at the same time from ever which angle, Like I could see in every direction all at the same time and it was as if I was having sex with all these different things at the same time then I was very dizzy and it got too much and I exploded in like an orgasmic way and suddenly I didnt have a body and I was just aware, like I could see and I was joined on to all this other awareness though they were seperate to my awareness but I was phsyically joined to all this other awareness so it was oneness but with my point of view like icke says.

I started to panick a bit thinking no I dont want to die, it isnt my time, how did I die?? I shouldnt be here just now!! and Ive ended up pulling out of it, I panicked went into my friend and he said just sit down and I lay down and was flying through all these huge tunnels asif going back there,I thought I was a goner and had trouble letting go, I was convinced my friend was the gate keeper of death there to make my transition manageable, then 5 minutes later I opened my eyesand I was lying on the floor like wtf! lol

Was actually talking about this the other day because someone else on a dmt site said they knew what place I meant, because after it my friend was saying because of reading icke maybe I created it, but it was so real, that seems like the real place and this the false place plus someone else knew that place im convincedit was real and it could well be the sameplaceicke talks about on his ayahuasca. Though maybe your pre determined beleifs create theseplaces,im not sure though I personally beleive that was real and it exists literally. I was also thinking, but maybe this is ickes influence that my awareness is another part of myself there just now and my awareness here happened to jump into myself in that other place, maybe, just a theory lol It was like oneness because it was all just one thing I was in it and so were many others it is one thing joined, the way id been joined to all those sexy aliens who wanted to rape me to "death" with love

relax

24-08-2009, 03:47 PM

Anyway, I feel I have shared quite a lot of personal stuff on here now. Perhaps too much!

Never too much life changing information! More please!!

The reason for posting is that I've felt increasingly in recent months that I need to share this info, not for me or for any personal gain, but perhaps because it might help one or two others in some way??

Anyone who reads it I believe, either pushing them in the right direction or reinforcing beliefs or feelings.

Am not sure how I can help, or even IF I can help anyone, in any way. I'm no expert or anything, like I said. But I hope in sharing my most special and precious experiences, it might help just one other person, in some small way.

Anything that you've experienced of this nature will help people, so I (and probably others) would love to hear anything more you've experienced, places you've been taken, things you've been told to write down, predictions and so on.

I would love to hear some of your experiences of NDE's and Spiritual experiences.When I have one, I wont hesitate :D

Thanks for posting. :)

whiterain

25-08-2009, 03:36 AM

jesalyn

25-08-2009, 03:52 AM

I had heart surgery 2 years ago. I was on the heart/lung machine for 43 minutes. To me I was "dead" because my heart and lungs were stopped for the surgery. When they were taking me out of the anastesia I stopped breathing on my own and they had to shock me and stick the tubes back down my throat. I was 32 at the time.

I don't remember a thing. Nothing. I wish I had an experience I could share, or learn from. All I know is that my teacher/mentor/adopted grandmother (Native American/American Indian Elder), died when I was "dead".

presence

27-08-2009, 08:57 AM

Thanks, World Beyond, for your story.
Maybe you could keep writing and get it published. Lots of people would love to read it. Once you have the focus of writing a book, more information etc would probably come. Good luck with it.

crystalline

28-08-2009, 02:02 AM

Hello world beyond, that sounds very much like the experience of Dannion Brinkley. He was struck by lightning on several seperate instances and details his NDE's in the book "saved by the light".

He also talks of a cathedral type building which he called the "hall of records", and he also describes it as being crystal like. He also describes a place exactly like you and talks of a library type building. Another similarity is that he has visions of future events and he also believes we are all here to learn a lesson.

You should check out the book

http://www.dannion.com/NDE.htm

worlds beyond

28-08-2009, 09:44 AM

hello,

thank you all for the comments and experiences added so far...

re: writing a book? well, I'm reaaly not sure I have enough to fill a book, and there seem to be so many book out there covering Spiritual themes, plus I' m not into making any money from my experiences.. I feel they are to be shared for free, with anyone who wants to hear.

re: D Brinkley.. I will certainly look into that, thankyou so much for the info and link :) , I've never heard of him, nor of anyone else experiencing quite the same thing I saw (i.e. Crsytal city, and "Hall of Records"). I'm sure there are probably many out there with the same experience (in terms of NDe, tunnel and light etc), as these places I've been taken to are definitely real, and not some figment of my imagination.

In 2007, I was given a book to read, by Anthony Borgia, think it was called "Life in the World Unseen".. it was loaned to me by a Spiritual Medium, who I'd finally plucked up courage to go and seek advice from re: all the weird experiences I've been having past 3 years or so (I was new to all this, and it was very confusing and unnerving at first to have these things happening and for me, direct contact with Spirit and such things "happening" were absolutely not something I was entirely comfortable with at first!).

Anyway, this book describes possibly the closest thing I have read to what I experienced during my NDE, and what I saw of the "other side" of the veil, and there are many aspects in this book which seem to completely confirm the things that I've been seeing and been shown since (recent years). It was written many many decades ago and (once you get past the old style of writing and some of the archaic terms and views) it is truly a wonderful and fascinating read!

I have been shown quite a lot if things, but like I said, am not in the "prediction" business, nor skilled in any psychic way. Some things relate to my life/friends' lives etc, and others to more global events, as briefly touched upon in my ealrier post. I've also been shown and taken to places "off world" (or as I call it, in 'Worlds Beyond'.... hence the name!).

I've been trying to paint what I've seen, as the places I've been taken to are just too vivid and hard to describe in words, however, I'm not artist, and also find that the colours of paint are just no match for the glowing, magical colours of the places I've seen. If I knew how to make a film of it all, I would do so (free to view of course!).

I've also had several trips to a place called the "Hall of Learning", a similar type building to the "Hall of Records", however inside was like an all-white, glowing, indoor 'ampitheatre' type place, where a row of very wise beings sat, who I was told were "Counsellors", and I was allowed to ask a few questions and receive some guidance. What is very very strange, is that each time I went there, I was told that the infomration I was being given was "Very important", yet I can never ever recall their words when I return to this earthly time/dimension. Yet I can still recall every other detail as though it just happened. And each time I returned from that place my body/mind were imbued to every pore with peace and calm and serenity.

One of the things that I have been taught about in all this is forgiveness, and how we can only change this world once we all learn to forgive. And I mean really forgive. I've been told that there won't be any peace / nirvana / ascension / 'hope' for this planet, until humans have learned to forgive. Not just individually, but in groups/communities, and nationally and also internationally.

Forgiveness is one of the major lessons we are to learn if we wish to progress (in any dimension or "realm"). For true forgiveness, we must learn to rise above and out of Ego. And move into and live through our hearts. Might sound all hippy-dippy and spiritual/new-agey to some of you, but this really is one thing I've been shown and told so many times.

As is the lesson of each of us being accountable for all our words, deeds and actions.. and that includes thoughts!! Whatever we send out, at any given moment of our lives here, is what we will all be held accountable for. Again, this is not just accountable as individuals, but as groups/communities and nations.

Anyway, these are just a few of the teachings I've received, and may not be of interest to folksd here, so I;ll leave that stuff there... !!

Thanks for your replies so far, and sharing your experiences, please do keep them coming... be they NDE or Spirit contact.. or similar!

crystalline

28-08-2009, 10:07 AM

Glad the link could be of help World Beyond.

Your philosophy on life is almost identical to my nanna's. She is very spiritual and also has had psychic experiences, including a NDE.

She talks of the counsellors too, and she is always saying to everyone how important our thoughts are as well as our actions. We will one day be judged by both.

Similarly she talks of forgiveness, she is 85 but has so much energy and zest for life, she takes many risks and holidays alone etc sometimes to far flung places. On one occasion she was walking alone at night and she was being followed by a gang, she said that her spirit guide told her to turn to them, she said that she was told telepathically that she was in danger. As she turned to them she stated "I forgive you for what you are about to do", at this, the gang turned and fled, she is convinced that this saved her life.

She also talks of the "music of the spheres" she said that this sound is heard in the realm that you describe, and that it is the most amazing sounds, better than any symphony written and filled with love, she also said that everytime a prayer is said it is like musical notes passing over.

Was wondering if anyone else has experienced the music of the sphere's?

worlds beyond

29-08-2009, 07:07 AM

Hi Crystalline,

your Gran sounds like a very interesting and wise woman ! I'm sure you'll be learning a lot from her ... maybe she can help you develop your own 'gifts' (if not already done so)??

Unfortunately, my family think I'm crazy (and worse, "lying" !) for talking of all this stuff, in spite of all the concrete evidence I've passed on to them from both their parents on other side (which I could not possibly have known without the Spirit contact... for example, finding out my father's father was adopted - a closely guarded family secret apparently; or that his mother was a twin, whose sibling died at birth). The only person in extended family who believes me is a cousin I rarely see, who my aunty told me also hears my Gran talking to her regularly, clear as anything, so much so, she actually made her a cup of tea a couple of years ago, thinking it was her mum (my aunty) talking to her from another room!

Interesting Gran talks of the "Counsellors" too... I wonder if she has any tips on how to recall the info they provide? As it seems the info I'm given is always 'blocked' somehow from being retrieved once I'm back in this "realm".

I read a bit of D Brinkley on his site, and am very keen to find out more, especially as he mentions these crystal cities and "Hall of Records".. I have his book on order! I have done several paintings of the "Hall of Records" I was shown. It was a deeply fascinating place. However, I was not allowed to directly access any records. But more 'given a tour' of the place.

Anyway, hope you all have a good weekend!

suicidal_martyr

30-08-2009, 07:46 PM

never had one here either. All of the ones I have read about are different but the similar part is they all seem to experience the tunnel and brilliant light at the end of that tunnel. One I read about said that when he had passed on he was lead by some other spirits to follow them and the further he followed the more negative they got.

worlds beyond

01-09-2009, 06:24 PM

Hmm, I've read some posts and comments by several people (across the internet, not here) mentioning alleged 'tricks' by evil entities/aliens etc, and that we should definitely not to go into the light... I'm really not too sure what to think of that to be honest, as my experience was all good and positive, so much that I've always said since my NDE, that when my time comes to leave here, I'll be found running at full pelt towards the Light at the end of that tunnel! :D

holylucifer

01-09-2009, 10:22 PM

This is the most detailed NDE,

http://100777.com/spiritual/beings_having_a_physical_experience

1. SUMMARY

Almost 57 years ago, on August the 6th 1945, for the first time in human history, an entire city was incinerated in a single blazing flash, many times brighter than the sun, tens of thousands of people died instantaneously, and many more experienced a long, painful agony. This city was Hiroshima. Today, we still live in a world where such an insane, cruel obscenity could happen at the whimsical order of a single man. We have lived for so long under the shadow of the nuclear age that we have almost forgotten the power, now magnified a million times, at the disposal of humankind for its own annihilation. And yet this is not the only monstrosity that has been unleashed on this once so fertile and lush world. Another insanity has taken hold and proliferated since the first atom bomb to gradually engulf almost the entire world. It is called market capitalism. This seemingly innocuous new "religion" with its mighty dollar as the focal point of nearly universal worship has fostered the rapid expansion of a technologically advanced consumerist lifestyle that is being emulated in every country around the world. In its wake, it has left a desolated trail of fast vanishing rainforests, the repository of millions of years of Life's experiments in beauty and creativity, fast dwindling marine life in all oceans, rivers and lakes, and the encroaching advance of men's dominion into fast receding wild and virgin environments. http://jahtruth.net/envird.htm

Just as this was taking place, another Earth changing phenomenon was slowly gathering momentum and is poised today to massively affect our perspective about most everything that has been deemed vitally important so far. A spiritual revolution, the like of which this planet has never experienced, is now breaking in the open as tens and soon hundreds of millions of people are realizing, through all kinds of individual mind and heart opening experiences, our fundamental unity with - and symbiotic dependency upon - all that lives. A profound spiritual awakening is being hatched amidst the epochal travails of a dying era. http://jahtruth.net/signs.htm

Amongst the most quintessential realizations dawning upon millions of human beings is the incontrovertible fact that, well before being human bodies of flesh and bones endowed with conscience and some kind of invisible soul, we are spiritual beings having a physical experience. The stories brought back from beyond the veil of clinical death by a growing number of people, as well as the numerous opportunities for enlightenment and awakening provided, as if by chance, to so many of us, have positively contributed to bring about this paradigm shift in understanding to all those who have ears to listen and eyes to see. Yet, like a still fragile new plant shooting from the ground towards the light, few of us have fully realized all the implications of this simple new understanding and accordingly shifted their overall views and everyday priorities to match the entirely different perspective it provides on all we think, say and do and, most critically on what we are... We have not yet fully identified with the immortal, radiant speck of God that we are and thus this reality is barely manifested as compared to all it can potentially mean for all aspects of our lives.

Please dedicate your prayers and meditations, as guided by Spirit, to contribute in anchoring in our global collective consciousness this simple reality. We will all focus together upon our essential divinity, reawakening, remembering just Who We Are... globally, in synchronous harmony. And from this growing realization, soon to dawn from deep within every other soul on Earth, will emerge the glory of a New Earth, for the Highest Good of All.

King of kings' Bible - Daniel 12:1 And at that time shall Michael [the Archangel] (Eno. 20:5; 36:1; 40:8; 58:1; 59:9; 57:1-2; 70:4; Rev.12:7; Sura 2:98) stand up, the Great Prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation [even] to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the Book [of Life] (Rev. 13:8; 17:8; 20:15; 21:27; Sura 83:20).
12:2 And many of them that sleep in "the dust of the earth" (Gen. 13:16; 28:14) shall awake, some to Everlasting Life, and some to shame [and] everlasting contempt.
12:3 And they that be wise shall shine as the brightness of the firmament; and they that turn many to Righteousness as the stars for ever and ever.
http://jahtruth.net/kofkad.htm

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This following article is very interesting but was very dangerous, because he has added many things that are part of his religious reading and not part of the original out of body experience and thereby has corrupted it. I have therefore edited out his corruptions that had crept in from his human body's opinion based on religious reading (as is evidenced by his use of Hindu words like mandala and yuga) and made it safe to read. Please pay special attention to my explanatory comments in blue, that point out his confused thinking..

Mellen-Thomas Benedict needs to study "The Way home or face The Fire" in order to begin to understand how he has allowed the body he is using to corrupt his understanding of his out of body experience, after re-entering it.
http://jahtruth.net/wayad.htm

2. THROUGH THE LIGHT
Mellen-Thomas Benedict is an artist (idolater) who survived a near-death experience in 1982. He was dead for over an hour and a half and during that time, he rose up out of his body and went into the Light. Curious about the universe, he was taken far into the remote depths of existence, and even beyond. Concerning his near-death experience, Dr. Kenneth Ring has said, "His story is one of the most remarkable I have encountered in my extensive research on near-death experiences."

THE ROAD TO DEATH

In 1982 I (the body he is using - JAH) died from terminal cancer. The condition I had was inoperable, and any kind of chemotherapy they could give me would just have made me (the body he is using - JAH) more of a vegetable. I (the body he is using - JAH) was given six to eight months to live. I had been an information freak in the 1970's, and I had become increasingly despondent over the nuclear crisis, the ecology crisis, and so forth.
http://jahtruth.net/envird.htm

So, since I did not have a spiritual basis (believing Satan's lie - that he was only human after all - JAH), I began to believe that nature had made a mistake, and that we were probably a cancerous organism on the planet. I saw no way that we could get out from all the problems we had created for ourselves and the planet. I perceived all humans as cancer, and that is what I got. That is what killed me (the body he is using - JAH). Be careful what your world view is. It can feed back on you, especially if it is a negative world view. I had a seriously negative one. That is what led me into my death. I tried all sorts of alternative healing methods, but nothing helped.
http://jahtruth.net/heal.htm

So I determined that this was really just between me and God. I had never really faced God before, or even dealt with God. I was not into any kind of spirituality at the time, but I began a journey into learning about spirituality and alternative healing. I set out to do all the reading I could and bone up on the subject, because I did not want to be surprised on the other side. So I started reading on various religions and philosophies.

That have obviously coloured his judgement of the pure truth he was shown and have found their way into the experience including the terminology used in these various religions and philosophies, after the event and have therefore corrupted it - JAH.

They were all very interesting, and gave hope that there was something on the other side.

On the other hand, as a self-employed stained-glass artist (idolater) at the time, I had no medical insurance whatsoever. So my life savings went overnight in testing.
http://jahtruth.net/heal.htm
Then I was facing the medical profession without any kind of insurance. I did not want to have my family dragged down financially, so I determined to handle this myself. There was not constant pain, but there were black-outs. I got so that I would not dare to drive, and eventually I ended up in hospice care.

I had my own personal hospice caretaker. I was very blessed by this carer who went through the last part of this with me. I lasted about eighteen months. I did not want to take a lot of drugs, since I wanted to be as conscious as possible. Then I experienced such pain that I had nothing but pain in my consciousness, luckily only for a few days at a time.

THE LIGHT OF GOD

I remember waking up one morning at home about 4:30 am, and I just knew that this was it. This was the day I was going to die (he is talking like a human again, even after the fact that he knows he did not die. Only the body he is using died - JAH). So I called a few friends and said goodbye. I woke up my hospice caretaker and told her. I had a private agreement with her that she would leave my dead body alone for six hours, since I had read that all kinds of
interesting things happen when you (the body dies - JAH) die. I went back to sleep.

The next thing I remember is the beginning of a typical near-death experience. Suddenly I was fully aware and I was standing up, but my body was in the bed. There was this darkness around me. Being out of my body was even more vivid than ordinary experience. It was so vivid that I could see every room in the house, I could see the top of the house, I could see around the house, I could see under the house.

When he says I, he means the real him - the Being part of his human+Being, the part that did NOT die - JAH.

There was this Light shining. I turned toward the Light. The Light was very similar to what many other people have described in their near-death experiences. It was so magnificent. It is tangible; you can feel it. It is alluring; you want to go to it like you would want to go to your ideal mother's or father's arms. As I began to move toward the Light, I knew intuitively that if I went to the Light, I would be dead (the body he is using - JAH). So as I (the Being, not the body - JAH) was moving toward the Light I said, "Please wait a minute, just hold on a second here. I want to think about this; I would like to talk to you before I go."

To my surprise, the entire experience halted at that point. I was indeed in control of my near-death experience. I was not on a roller coaster ride. So my request was honored and I had some conversations with the Light. The Light kept changing into different figures, like Jesus, Buddha, Krishna, mandalas, archetypal images and signs. I asked the Light, "What is going on here? Please, Light, clarify yourself for me. I really want to know the reality of the situation." I cannot really say the exact words, because it was sort of telepathy.

What else could it be, if the body was dead and he was out of it? - JAH.

The Light responded. The information transferred to me was that your beliefs shape the kind of feedback you are getting before the Light. If you were a Buddhist or Catholic or Fundamentalist, you get a feedback loop of your own stuff. You have a chance to look at it and examine it, but most people do not. As the Light revealed itself to me, I became aware that what I was really seeing was our Higher Self matrix.

The only thing I can tell you is that it turned into a matrix, a mandala of human souls, and what I saw was that what we call our Higher Self in each of us is a matrix. It's also a conduit to the Source; each one of us comes directly, as a direct experience from the Source. We all have a Higher Self, or soul (spirit-Being) part of our existence. It revealed itself to me in its truest energy form. The only way I can really describe it is that the being of the Higher Self is more like a conduit. It did not look like that, but it is a direct connection to the Source that each and every one of us has. We are directly connected to the Source.
http://jahtruth.net/starwar.htm

This is explained in detail in "The Way home or face The Fire":- http://jahtruth.net/wayad.htm

So the Light was showing me the Higher Self matrix. And it became very clear to me that all the Higher Selves are connected as one being, all human+Beings are connected as one being, we are actually the same being, different aspects of the same being.
http://jahtruth.net/etvisit.htm
It was not committed to one particular religion.
http://jahtruth.net/buddha.htm
So that is what was being fed back to me. And I saw this mandala of souls. It was the most beautiful thing I have ever seen. I just went into it and, it was just overwhelming.
http://jahtruth.net/noti.htm
It was like all the love you've ever wanted, and it was the kind of love that cures, heals, regenerates.
http://jahtruth.net/heal.htm

As I asked the Light to keep explaining, I understood what the Higher Self matrix is. We have a grid around the planet where all the Higher Selves are connected. This is like a great company, a next subtle level of energy around us, the spirit level, you might say. Then, after a couple of minutes, I asked for more clarification. I really wanted to know what the universe is about, and I was ready to go at that time. I said "I am ready, take me." Then the Light turned into the most beautiful thing that I have ever seen: a mandala of souls on this planet.

Now I came to this with my negative view of what has happened on the planet. So as I asked the light to keep clarifying for me, I saw in this magnificent mandala how beautiful we all are in our essence, our core. We are the most beautiful creations. The human's soul, the human matrix that we all make together is absolutely fantastic, elegant, exotic, everything. I just cannot say enough about how it changed my opinion of human+beings in that instant.

I said, "Oh, God, I did not know how beautiful we are." At any level, high or low, in whatever shape you are in, you are the most beautiful creation, you are. The terrible things that happen to people and the Devil's influence might make them do evil things, but their souls were not created evil. What all people seek, what sustains them, is love, the Light told me. What distorts people is a lack of love.
http://jahtruth.net/yodas.htm

The revelations coming from the Light seemed to go on and on, then I asked the Light, "Does this mean that humankind will be saved?" Then, like a trumpet blast with a shower of spiraling lights, the Great Light spoke, saying, "Remember this and never forget; you save, redeem and heal yourself. You always have. You always will. You were created with the power to do so from before the beginning of the world."
http://jahtruth.net/heal.htm
http://jahtruth.net/wayad.htm

In that instant I realized even more. I realized that WE HAVE ALREADY BEEN SAVED (once - JAH), and we can save ourselves because we were designed to self-correct like the rest of God's universe. This is what the second coming is about. I thanked the Light of God with all my heart. The best thing I could come up with was these simple words of total appreciation: "Oh dear God, dear Universe, dear Great Self, I love my Life."

King of kings' Bible - Luke 14:26 If any [man] come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own (human) life also, he can NOT be my disciple.
King of kings' bible - Matthew 10:39 He that findeth his life shall lose it: and he that loseth his life for my sake shall find it.
King of kings' Bible - Thomas 6:1 Jesus said: If the flesh has come into existence because of the spirit, it is a marvel; but if the spirit has come into existence because of the body, it is a marvel of marvels (impossible). But I marvel at how
this great wealth (the spirit) has made its home in this poverty (the body).
http://jahtruth.net/kofkad.htm

The Light seemed to breathe me in even more deeply. It was as if the Light was completely absorbing me. The Love Light is, to this day, indescribable. I entered into another realm, more profound than the last, and became aware of something more, much more. It was an enormous stream of Light, vast and full, deep in the Heart of Life. I asked what this was.

The Light responded, "This is the RIVER OF LIFE. Drink of this manna water to your heart's content." So I did. I took one big drink and then another. To drink of Life Itself! I was in ecstasy.

Then the Light said, "You have a desire." The Light knew all about me, everything past, present and future.

"Yes!" I whispered (telepathically - JAH).

I asked to see the rest of the Universe; beyond our solar system, beyond all human illusion. The Light then told me that I could go with the Stream. I did, and was carried through the Light at the end of the tunnel. I felt and heard a series of very soft sonic booms. What a rush!

THE VOID OF NOTHINGNESS

Suddenly I seemed to be rocketing away from the planet on this stream of Life. I saw the earth fly away. The solar system, in all its splendor, whizzed by and disappeared. At faster than light speed, I flew through the center of the galaxy, absorbing more knowledge as I went. I learned that this galaxy, and all of the Universe, is bursting with many different varieties of LIFE. I saw many worlds. The good news is that we are not alone in this Universe!
http://jahtruth.net/etvisit.htm

As I rode this stream of consciousness through the center of the galaxy, the stream was expanding in awesome fractal waves of energy. The super clusters of galaxies with all their ancient wisdom flew by. At first I thought I was going somewhere; actually traveling. But then I realized that, as the stream was expanding, my own consciousness was also expanding (seeking - JAH) to take in everything in the Universe! All creation passed by me. It was an unimaginable wonder! I truly was a Wonder Child; a babe in Wonderland!

It seemed as if all the creations in the Universe soared by me and vanished in a speck of Light. Almost immediately, a second Light appeared. It came from all sides, and was so different; a Light made up of more than every frequency in the Universe. I felt and heard several velvety sonic booms again. My consciousness, or being, was expanding to interface with the entire Holographic Universe and more.

As I passed into the second Light, the awareness came to me that I had just transcended the Truth*. Those are the best words I have for it, but I will try to explain. As I passed into the second Light, I expanded beyond the First Light. I found myself in a profound stillness, beyond all silence. I could see or perceive FOREVER, beyond Infinity.

* The Truth that he - the Being part of a human+Being - is not human - JAH.

I was in the Void.

I was in pre-creation. I had crossed over the beginning of time - the First Word - the First vibration. I was in the Eye of Creation. I felt as if I was touching the Face of God. It was not a religious feeling. Simply I was at one with Absolute Life and Consciousness.

When I say that I could see or perceive forever, I mean that I could experience all of creation generating itself. It was without beginning and without end. That's a mind-expanding thought, isn't it? Scientists perceive the Big Bang (theory) as a single event which created the Universe. I saw that the Big Bang (theory) is only one of an infinite number of (so-called) Big Bangs creating Universes endlessly and simultaneously. The only images that even come close in human terms would be those created by supercomputers using fractal geometry equations.

The ancients knew of this. They said Godhead periodically created new Universes by breathing out, and de-creating other Universes by breathing in. These epochs were called Yugas. Modern science called this the Big Bang (theory). I was in absolute, pure consciousness. I could see or perceive all the Big Bangs or Yugas creating and de-creating themselves. Instantly I entered into them all simultaneously. I saw that each and every little piece of creation has the power to create. It is very difficult to try to explain this. I am still speechless about this.

It took me years after I returned to assimilate any words at all for the Void experience. I can tell you this now; the Void is less than nothing, yet more than everything that is! The Void is Absolute Consciousness; much more than even Universal Intelligence.

Where is the Void? I know. The Void* is inside and outside everything. You, right now even while you live, are always inside and outside the Void simultaneously. You don't have to go anywhere or die to get there. The Void is the vacuum or nothingness between all physical manifestations. The SPACE between atoms and their components.

* The Force - JAH.
King of kings' Bible - Thomas 1:6 But the Kingdom is within you and it is without you.
1:7 If you will know yourselves, then you will be known and you will know that you are the sons of the Living Father.
1:8 But if you do not know yourselves, then you are in poverty and you ARE poverty.
http://jahtruth.net/kofkad.htm

Modern science has begun to study this space between everything. They call it Zero-point. Whenever they try to measure it, their instruments go off the scale, or to infinity, so to speak. They have no way, as of yet, to measure infinity accurately*. There is more of the zero space in your own body and the Universe than anything else!

* How could a finite object measure infinity? How can infinity be zero, except in man's illogic? - JAH.

What mystics call the Void is not a void. It is so full of energy*, a different kind of energy that has created everything that we are. Everything since the (supposed - JAH) Big Bang is vibration, from the first Word, which is the first vibration.

* The Force - JAH.
http://jahtruth.net/starwar.htm

So creation is God exploring God's Self through every way imaginable, in an ongoing, infinite exploration through every one of us. Through every piece of hair on your head, through every leaf on every tree, through every atom, God is exploring God's Self, the great "I am". I began to see that everything that is, is part of God, literally, you, me. Everything is part of the Great Self. That is why God knows even when a leaf falls. That is possible because wherever you are, there is God, the center of the universe. Wherever any atom is, there is God in that atom, and God in the Void.

As I was exploring the Void and all the Yugas or creations, I was completely out of time and space as we know it. In this expanded state, I discovered that creation is about Absolute Pure Consciousness, or God, coming into the Experience of Life as we know it. Godhead is about more than Life and Death. Therefore there is even more than Life and Death to experience in the Universe!
http://jahtruth.net/noti.htm

I was in the Void and I was aware of everything that had ever been created. It was like I was seeing through God's eyes. I had become part of God. Suddenly I wasn't me anymore. The only thing I can say, I was looking through God's eyes. And suddenly I knew why every atom was, and I could see everything. The interesting point was that I went into the Void, I came back with this understanding that God is not there. God is here. That's what it is all about.
http://jahtruth.net/noti.htm

So this constant search of the human race to go out and find God ... God gave everything to us, everything is here - this is where we find Him.

When I realized this, I was finished with the Void, and wanted to return to this creation, or Yuga. It just seemed like the natural thing to do. Then I suddenly came back through the second Light, hearing several more velvet booms. I rode the stream of consciousness back through all of creation, and what a ride it was! The super clusters of galaxies came through me with even more insights.

I passed through the center of our galaxy, which is a black hole. Black holes are the great processors or recyclers of the Universe. Do you know what is on the other side of a Black Hole? We are; our galaxy; which has been reprocessed from another Universe. In its total energy configuration, the galaxy looked like a fantastic city of lights. Every sub-atom, atom, star, planet, even consciousness itself is made of light and has a frequency and/or particle. Light is living stuff. Everything is made of light, even stones. So everything is alive. Everything is made from the Light of God; everything is very intelligently formed.

THE LIGHT OF LOVE

As I rode the stream on and on, I could eventually see a huge Light coming. I knew it was the First Light; the Higher Self Light Matrix of our solar system. Then the entire solar system appeared in the Light, accompanied by one of those velvet booms.

I saw that the solar system we live in is our larger, local body. This is our local body and we are much bigger than we imagine. I saw that the solar system is our body. I am a part of this, and the earth is this great created being that we are, and we are the part of it that knows that it is. But we are only that part of it. We are not everything, but we are that
part of it that knows that we are.

I could see all the energy that this solar system generates, and it is an incredible light show! I could hear the Music of the Spheres. Our solar system, as do all celestial bodies, generates a unique matrix of light, sound and vibratory energies. Advanced civilizations from other star systems can spot life as we know it in the universe by the vibratory or energy matrix imprint. It is child's play. The earth's Wonder Child (human beings) make an abundance of sound (mostly noise - JAH) right now, like children playing in the backyard of the universe (with bombs and missiles - JAH).

I rode the stream directly into the center of the Light. I felt embraced by the Light as it took me in with its breath again, followed by another soft sonic boom.

Sonic? The being has no ear-drums - JAH.

I was in this great Light of Love with the stream of life flowing through me. I have to say again, it is the most loving, non-judgmental Light. It is the ideal parent for this Wonder Child.

"What now?" I wondered.

The Light explained to me that there is no death; we are immortal beings. We have already been alive forever! I realized that we are part of a natural living system that recycles itself endlessly. I was never told that I had to come back. I just knew that I would. It was only natural, from what I had seen.

I don't know how long I was with the Light, in human time. But there came a moment when I realized that all my questions had been answered and my return was near. When I say that all my questions were answered on the other side, I mean to say just that. All my questions have been answered. Every human+Being has a different life and set of questions to explore.
Some of our questions are Universal, but each of us is exploring this thing we call Life in our own unique way.
http://jahtruth.net/health.htm

So is every other form of life, from mountains to every leaf on every tree.
http://jahtruth.net/natgra.htm

And that is very important to the rest of us in this Universe. Because it all contributes to the Big Picture, the fullness of Life. We are literally spirit-Beings exploring God's Self in an infinite Dance of Life. Your uniqueness enhances all of Life.

King of kings' Bible - John 17:3 And THIS is Life Eternal, that they might KNOW Thee the ONLY True God, and Christ the Saviour, whom Thou hast sent.
17:4 I have glorified Thee on the earth: I have finished the work which Thou gavest me to do.
17:5 And now, O Father, glorify Thou me with Thine Own self with the glory which I had with Thee BEFORE THE WORLD WAS.
17:6 I have manifested Thy name unto the men which Thou gavest me out of the world: Thine they were, and Thou gavest them me; and they have kept Thy Word.
17:7 Now they have known that all things whatsoever Thou hast given me are of Thee.
17:8 For I have given unto them the Words which Thou gavest me; and they have received [them], and have known surely that I came out from Thee, and they have believed that Thou didst send me.
17:9 I pray for them: I pray not for the world, but for them which Thou hast given me; for they are Thine.
17:10 And all mine are Thine, and Thine are mine; and I am glorified in them.
17:11 And now I am no more in the world, but these are in the world, and I
come to Thee. Holy Father, keep through Thine own name those whom Thou hast given me, that they may be one, as We [are].
http://jahtruth.net/kofkad.htm

HIS RETURN TO EARTH

As I began my return to the (human) life (death) cycle, it never crossed my mind, nor was I told, that I would return to the same body. It just did not matter. I had complete trust in the Light and the Life process. As the stream merged with the great Light, I asked never to forget the revelations and the feelings of what I had learned on the other side.
http://jahtruth.net/noti.htm

There was a "Yes". It felt like a kiss to my soul.

Then I was taken back through the Light into the vibratory realm again. The whole process reversed, with even more information being given to me. I came back home (home? Heaven is home for a spirit-Being, not here. This is only the home of the human body that he is using. A sign of his confused human thinking), and I was given lessons on the mechanics of reincarnation. I was given answers to all those little questions I had: "How does this work? How does that work?" I knew that I would be reincarnated. The earth is a great processor of energy, and individual consciousness evolves out of that into each one of us.
http://jahtruth.net/celtrein.htm

I thought of myself as a Being for the first time, and I was happy to be that. From what I have seen, I would be happy to be an atom in this universe. An atom.
http://jahtruth.net/noti.htm

So I went through the reincarnation process expecting to be a baby somewhere. But I was given a lesson on how individual identity and consciousness evolve. So I reincarnated back into this body. I was so surprised when I opened my (the body's - JAH) eyes. I do not know why, because I understood it, but it was still such a surprise to be back in this body, back in my (body's) room with someone looking over me crying her eyes out. It was my hospice caretaker. She had given up an hour and a half after finding me (the body he is using - JAH) dead. She was sure I (the body he is using - JAH) was dead; all the signs of death were there - I (the body he is using - JAH) was getting stiff.

He has already started to believe he is a human again and is calling the body he is using "me" and "I", after all he was shown. What a betrayal of the Light - JAH

We do not know how long I (the body he is using - JAH) was dead, but we do know that it was an hour and a half since I (which I? Think about what you are saying! - JAH) was found. She honored my wish to have my newly dead body left alone for a few hours as much as she could. We had an amplified stethoscope and many ways of checking out the vital functions of the body to see what was happening. She can verify that I (the body he is using - JAH) really was dead. It was not a near-death experience. I experienced (human - JAH) death itself for at least an hour and a half. She found me (the body he is using - JAH) dead and checked the stethoscope, blood pressure and heart rate monitor for an hour and a half. Then I awakened (you had not been asleep - JAH) and saw the light outside. I tried to get up to go to it, but I (the body he is using - JAH) fell out of the bed. She heard a loud "clunk", ran in and found me (and the body he is inside of - JAH) on the floor.

When I (the body recovered. He is back into being a human again - believing Satan's lie - JAH) recovered, I was very surprised and yet very awed about what had happened to me. At first all the memory of the trip that I have now was not there. I kept slipping out of this world and kept asking, "Am I alive?" (Which I? The body again - JAH) This world seemed more like a dream than that one. Within three days, I was feeling normal (human, the enemy of God - JAH) again, clearer, yet different than I had ever felt in my life. My memory of the journey came back later. I could see nothing wrong with any human+being I had ever seen. Before that I was really judgmental. I thought a lot of people were really screwed up, in fact I thought that everybody was screwed up but me. But I got clear on all that.

Or thinks he has - JAH.

About three months later a friend said I should get tested, (why? - JAH) so I went and got the scans and so forth. I really felt good, so I was afraid of getting bad news. (Why, if he knew he was not human? Already believing the lie that he is human again - JAH) I remember the doctor at the clinic looking at the before and after scans, saying, "Well, there is nothing here now." I said, "Really, it must be a miracle?" He said "No, these things happen, they are called spontaneous remission." He acted very unimpressed. But here was a miracle, and I was impressed, even if no one else was.
http://jahtruth.net/heal.htm

LESSONS HE LEARNED

The mystery of life has very little to do with intelligence. The universe is not an intellectual process at all. The intellect is helpful; it is brilliant, but right now that is all we process with, instead of our hearts and the wiser part of ourselves.

Unscriptural and wrong:- King of kings' Bible - Matthew 11:25 At that time Jesus answered and said, I thank thee, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because Thou hast hid these things from the wise and prudent, and hast revealed them unto babes.
http://jahtruth.net/kofkad.htm

The center of the earth is this great transmuter of energy, just as you see in pictures of our earth's magnetic field. That's our cycle, pulling reincarnated souls back in and through it again.
http://jahtruth.net/celtrein.htm

I saw that races are personality clusters. Nations like France, Germany and China each have their own personality. Cities have personalities, their local soul groups that attract certain people. Families have soul groups. Individual identity is evolving like branches of a fractal. The different questions that each of us has are very, very important. This is how Godhead is inviting you to explore God's Self - through your questions. So ask your questions, do your searching. You will find your "Self" and you will find God within yourself and learn to become like Him by following His inner tuition.
http://jahtruth.net/gnost.htm

More than that, I began to see that each one of us human+Beings are soul mates. We are part of the same soul fractaling out in many creative directions, but still the same. Now I look at every human+being that I ever see, and I see a soul mate, my soul mate, the one I have always been looking for. Beyond that, the greatest soul mate that you will ever have is God.
http://jahtruth.net/marguide.htm

If you are looking for that ultimate soul mate outside of yourself, you may never find it; it is not there. Just as God is not "there". God is here. Don't look "out there" for God. Look here for God. Look through your higher Self. Start having the greatest love affair you ever had ... with God. You will love everything out of that.
http://jahtruth.net/godgovmt.htm

Before my body's death I had a descent into what you might call Hell, and it was very surprising. I did not see Satan or evil. My descent into Hell was a descent into each person's customized human misery, ignorance, and darkness of not-knowing. It seemed like a miserable eternity. But each of the millions of souls around me had a little star of light always available. But no one seemed to pay attention to it (including him - JAH). They were so consumed with their own grief, trauma, misery and greed. But, after what seemed an eternity, I started calling out to that Light, like a child calling to a parent for help.

Then the Light opened up and formed a tunnel that came right to me and insulated me from all that fear and pain. That is what Hell really is. So what we are doing is learning to hold hands, to come together. The doors of Hell are open now. A few are going to link up, hold hands, and walk out of Hell together. The Light came to me and turned into a huge golden angel. I said, "Are you the angel of death?" It expressed to me that it was my oversoul (guardian). Then I was taken to the Light.

Since my return I have experienced the Light spontaneously, and I have learned how to get to that space almost any time in my meditation. (You are supposed to do it without ceasing - JAH). Each one of you can do this. You do not have to die to do this. It is within your equipment; you are wired for it already.

King of kings' Bible - Ephesians 6:18 Praying constantly (without ceasing) with all prayer and supplication in the Spirit, and watching thereunto with all perseverance and supplication for all holy people;
http://jahtruth.net/kofkad.htm

This is explained in detail in "The Way home or face The Fire":-
http://jahtruth.net/wayad.htm

The "Self" is like a spoiled child running around the universe, demanding things and thinking it created and owns the world, instead of God.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR ASSISTANCE IN PASSING THIS ON TO OTHERS

bealert

01-09-2009, 10:30 PM

holylucifer

01-09-2009, 10:41 PM

The Astral Plain.

(Para-Dice [latin] - for being told ).

Adapted from "The Tenth Insight" by James Redfield.

We could see that it was a middle-aged man; he looked around wildly, then saw the group of souls and began to relax.

To my surprise, when I focused closely on him, I could pick up on what he was feeling and thinking. I glanced at Wil, who nodded that he was also sensing the person's reaction.

I focused again and observed that, in spite of a certain detachment and sense of love and support, he was in a state of shock at having discovered his body had died. Only minutes before, he had been routinely jogging, and while attempting to run up a long hill, his body had suffered a massive heart-attack. The pain had lasted only a few seconds, and then he was hovering outside his body, watching a stream of bystanders rush up to help him. Soon a team of paramedics arrived and worked feverishly to bring him back.

As he sat beside his body in the ambulance, he had listened in horror as the team-leader had pronounced his body dead. Frantically he had attempted to communicate, but no-one could hear. At the hospital a doctor confirmed to the crew that his heart had literally exploded; that no-one could have done anything to save his life.

Part of him tried to accept the fact; another resisted. How could he be dead; because he was still alive? He had called out for help and had instantly found himself in a tunnel of colours that had brought him to where he now stood. As we watched, he seemed to become more aware of the souls and moved toward them, shifting out of focus to us, appearing more like them.

Then abruptly he pulled back toward us and was quickly surrounded by an office of some kind, filled with computers and wall-charts and people working. Everything looked perfectly real, except the walls were semitransparent, so that we could see what was happening inside, and the sky above the office was not blue, but a strange olive colour.

"He's deluding himself," Wil said. "He's re-creating the office where he worked on Earth, trying to pretend his body hasn't died."

The souls moved closer and others came until there were dozens of them, all flickering in and out of focus in the amber light. They seemed to be sending the man Love and some kind of information I couldn't understand. Gradually the constructed office began to fade and eventually disappeared completely.

The man was left with an expression of resignation on his face, and he again moved into focus with the souls.

"Let's go with them," I heard Wil say. At the same moment, I felt his arm, or rather, the energy of his arm, pushing against my back.

As soon as I inwardly agreed, there was the slight sensation of movement, and the souls and the man all came into clearer focus. The souls now had glowing faces much as Wil and I did, but their hands and feet, instead of being clearly formed, were mere radiations of light. I could now focus on the entities for as long as four or five seconds before losing them and having to blink to find them again.

I became aware that the group of souls, as well as the deceased individual, was watching an intense point of bright light moving towards us. It eventually swelled into a massive beam that covered everything. Unable to look directly at the light, I turned so I could just see the silhouette of the man, who was staring fully at the beam without apparent difficulty.

Again I could pick up on his thoughts. The light was filling him with an unimaginable sense of love and calm perspective. As this sensation swept over him, his viewpoint and knowledge expanded until he could clearly see the life he had just lived form a broad and amazingly detailed perspective. . .

The man described above was experiencing what is known as a "life review", where our soul (our true, higher-self), immediately after its release from the body that it was using on Earth, has the life it has just lived reviewed and evaluated. It is congratulated for the good things that it had done and learned in that incarnation and will be punished for all of the evil that it has done and learned. It is then either rewarded for its good deeds by being sent back into a healthy body, in good circumstances, upon its next incarnation; or it is punished for the evil things it has done by either being placed in a handicapped, retarded or unhealthy body, or possibly is placed in adverse circumstances to teach it the values it has failed to learn in its previous incarnations (John 9:1-2; 5:14).

9:1 And as [Jesus] passed by, he saw a man which was blind from [his] birth. (re-incarnation)
9:2 And his disciples asked him, saying, Master, who did SIN, THIS MAN, or his parents, that he was BORN blind?
5:14 Afterward Jesus findeth him in the Temple, and said unto him, Behold, thou art made whole: sin no more, lest a WORSE thing come unto thee.

This life-evaluation fulfills the perfect system of cause-and-effect that many cultures in the world believe in, which is known by many different names such as "Karma" in the Eastern religions and "Sowing and Reaping" in the West (Galatians 6:7).

Galatians 6:7 Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, THAT shall he also reap.

gripit

01-09-2009, 10:54 PM

I've never had one, but my Father did! Back in the mid 50s, he was walking to the edge of a street crossing and slipped on a patch of ice...directly underneath the front wheel of a trolley bus. His chest was crushed, but he was still aware enough to roll outta the way of the dual back wheels. On the Emergency Room operating table, he left his body, he was watching himself being operated on! There was a string attached, he knew if the string broke, it would be all over. He says this only lasted 10 seconds or so.

Anyhow, he spent 6 months in hospital, but fully recovered. The next year, one of his nuts was crushed by a hockey puck! Hard to believe I even exist! :eek::p

btw, good stories everyone :)

biblegirl

01-09-2009, 11:59 PM

gripit

02-09-2009, 01:03 AM

wow! yeah i've heard of the cord tying the astral to the body, that's some interesting stuff!

Hey biblegirl :)

Yep, freaky stuff. Probably divine intervention cuz his future son is gonna save the world one day :p

worlds beyond

02-09-2009, 11:46 AM

Interesting video of a Doctor who researches Child patients' NDEs... this video is of the childrens' drawings/paintings of their experiences...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VqgL-lc2jmg

bsmurph83

02-09-2009, 03:15 PM

What a wonderful experience:)

I am on the search for evidence of an afterlife as i am terrified of dying!:(

I am torn between the scientific theory of NDEs being the brain shutting down (I hope its not that one)

Or that what you experienced was real, which i so much want to believe!:)

Any advice or other experiences?

Many thanks
Gizmo
x

hi, gizmocrystal. this post is for you. it's from stanislav grof's 'the holotropic mind'. despite what funda-materialists would have you believe, the brain model does not explain the genuine NDEs or OBEs, as grof's example (one among many) clearly shows:

“During the period of time when I was actively involved in thanatological work”, wrote Stanislav Grof in The Holotropic Mind, “I visited a hospital in Miami. A physician there had just verified an unusual near-death experience of a Cuban immigrant woman. During cardiac arrest she had an OOBE (Out Of Body Experience. Many people shorten this to OBE, including me - author) in which she found herself back in Cuba. She was in a house where she had once lived but had not visited for many years. She recovered from the heart attack by she was very upset by what she had seen during her OOBE. She reported that the people who now lived in the house had made some changes that she did not like. They had moved things around, had exchanged some pieces of furniture, and had painted the fence a shade of green that she found appalling. Her attending physician had been able to verify that she had accurately described the changes that had occurred in the house during her absence – including the fact that the fence had been painted an unusual shade of green. Our ability to leave our physical bodies and travel to other places has been demonstrated in controlled laboratory experiments by researchers with good academic credentials.” (Holotropic Mind pg 138)

worlds beyond

02-09-2009, 08:12 PM

interesting article:

People Born Blind Can See During Near Death Experiences
Near-Death.com

Vicki Umipeg, a forty-five year old blind woman, was just one of the more than thirty persons that Dr. Ken Ring and Sharon Cooper interviewed at length during a two-year study just completed concerning near-death experiences of the blind. The results of their study appear in their newest book Mindsight. Vicki was born blind, her optic nerve having been completely destroyed at birth because of an excess of oxygen she received in the incubator. Yet, she appears to have been able to see during her NDE. Her story is a particularly clear instance of how NDEs of the congenitally blind can unfold in precisely the same way as do those of sighted persons. As you will see, apart from the fact that Vicki was not able to discern color during her experience, the account of her NDE is absolutely indistinguishable from those with intact visual systems. The following is an excerpt from Dr. Ring's latest book reprinted by permission.

Vicki told Dr. Ring she found herself floating above her body in the emergency room of a hospital following an automobile accident. She was aware of being up near the ceiling watching a male doctor and a female nurse working on her body, which she viewed from her elevated position. Vicki has a clear recollection of how she came to the realization that this was her own body below her. The following is her experience.

“I knew it was me ... I was pretty thin then. I was quite tall and thin at that point. And I recognized at first that it was a body, but I didn't even know that it was mine initially.

“Then I perceived that I was up on the ceiling, and I thought, "Well, that's kind of weird. What am I doing up here?"

“I thought, "Well, this must be me. Am I dead? ..."

“I just briefly saw this body, and ... I knew that it was mine because I wasn't in mine”.

In addition, she was able to note certain further identifying features indicating that the body she was observing was certainly her own.

“I think I was wearing the plain gold band on my right ring finger and my father's wedding ring next to it. But my wedding ring I definitely saw ... That was the one I noticed the most because it's most unusual. It has orange blossoms on the corners of it.”

There is something extremely remarkable and provocative about Vicki's recollection of these visual impressions, as a subsequent comment of hers implied.

"This was," she said, "the only time I could ever relate to seeing and to what light was, because I experienced it."

She then told them that following her out-of-body episode, which was very fast and fleeting, she found herself going up through the ceilings of the hospital until she was above the roof of the building itself, during which time she had a brief panoramic view of her surroundings. She felt very exhilarated during this ascension and enjoyed tremendously the freedom of movement she was experiencing. She also began to hear sublimely beautiful and exquisitely harmonious music akin to the sound of wind chimes.

With scarcely a noticeable transition, she then discovered she had been sucked head first into a tube and felt that she was being pulled up into it. The enclosure itself was dark, Vicki said, yet she was aware that she was moving toward light. As she reached the opening of the tube, the music that she had heard earlier seemed to be transformed into hymns and she then "rolled out" to find herself lying on grass.

She was surrounded by trees and flowers and a vast number of people. She was in a place of tremendous light, and the light, Vicki said, was something you could feel as well as see. Even the people she saw were bright.

“Everybody there was made of light. And I was made of light. What the light conveyed was love. There was love everywhere. It was like love came from the grass, love came from the birds, love came from the trees.”

Vicki then becomes aware of specific persons she knew in life who are welcoming her to this place. There are five of them. Debby and Diane were Vicki's blind schoolmates, who had died years before, at ages 11 and 6, respectively.

In life, they had both been profoundly retarded as well as blind, but here they appeared bright and beautiful, healthy and vitally alive.

And no longer children, but, as Vicki phrased it, "in their prime."

In addition, Vicki reports seeing two of her childhood caretakers, a couple named Mr. and Mrs. Zilk, both of whom had also previously died. Finally, there was Vicki's grandmother - who had essentially raised Vicki and who had died just two years before this incident. In these encounters, no actual words were exchanged, Vicki says, but only feelings - feelings of love and welcome.

In the midst of this rapture, Vicki is suddenly overcome with a sense of total knowledge.

“I had a feeling like I knew everything ... and like everything made sense. I just knew that this was where ... this place was where I would find the answers to all the questions about life, and about the planets, and about God, and about everything ... It's like the place was the knowing.”

As these revelations are unfolding, Vicki notices that now next to her is a figure whose radiance is far greater than the illumination of any of the persons she has so far encountered. Immediately, she recognizes this being to be Jesus. He greets her tenderly, while she conveys her excitement to him about her newfound omniscience and her joy at being there with him.

Telepathically, he communicates to her.

"Isn't it wonderful? Everything is beautiful here, and it fits together. And you'll find that. But you can't stay here now. It's not your time to be here yet and you have to go back."

Vicki reacts, understandably enough, with extreme disappointment and protests vehemently.

"No, I want to stay with you."

But the being reassures her that she will come back, but for now, she "has to go back and learn and teach more about loving and forgiving."

Still resistant, however, Vicki then learns that she also needs to go back to have her children. With that, Vicki, who was then childless but who "desperately wanted" to have children (and who has since given birth to three) becomes almost eager to return and finally consents.

However, before Vicki can leave, the being says to her, in these exact words, "But first, watch this."

And what Vicki then sees is "everything from my birth" in a complete panoramic review of her life, and as she watches, the being gently comments to help her understand the significance of her actions and their repercussions.

The last thing Vicki remembers, once the life review has been completed, are the words, "You have to leave now."

Then she experiences "a sickening thud" like a roller-coaster going backwards, and finds herself back in her body.

Such reports, replete with visual imagery, were the rule, not the exception, among Ring and Cooper's blind respondents. Altogether, 80% of their entire sample claimed some visual perception during their near-death or out-of-body encounters. Although Vicki's was unusual with respect to the degree of detail, it was hardly unique in their sample.

Sometimes the initial onset of visual perception of the physical world is disorienting and even disturbing to the blind. This was true for Vicki, for example, who said:

“I had a hard time relating to it (i.e., seeing). I had a real difficult time relating to it because I've never experienced it. And it was something very foreign to me ... Let's see, how can I put it into words? It was like hearing words and not being able to understand them, but knowing that they were words. And before you'd never heard anything. But it was something new, something you'd not been able to previously attach any meaning to.”

www.near-death.com/experiences/evidence03.html

worlds beyond

03-09-2009, 12:33 AM

hello again!

I mentioned at start of this thread about some of the recurring "visions" and 'happenings' ( not dreams) I've been having past 3 years or so, and the many messages I've received or written, from people in the Spirit World.

Apart from the mega-huge tidal waves (up to almost the tops of the mountains) which I've seen in dreams almost all my life (but past 3 years am seeing at least weekly), I also see the earth, land, mountains etc. are red in colour. This is not blood, nor does it appear to be dust. It actually seems as through the land has been burnt and is scorched, almost like the dying embers of a fire, but the fire has gone and the land is normal temperature. There are no plants or grass or any vegetation visible anywhere. Just rocks, and earth which is red, and a mass of red water, which is also red, which I know in the visions to be the remnants of major flooding. This is Englan I can see, but when I look, I can see it everywhere. Massive massive floods of red water and red land. I have made several paintings of this.
The red colour of earth is a permanent red, fixed into the land and rocks, not a 'covering' of anything from what I can see. Related to this, I have also been regularly shown the sun, almost as if it has moved much closer to Earth, or has grown massively in size, or is somehow affecting earth. I am sometimes taken off-planet, and am looking back at earth (as if we look at the moon from Earth). Several times I have seen the 'sun close to the earth' or being 'bigger than normal' thing. I don't know if this is literal or metaphoric, but it does look very strange indeed. Almost like it is just obove the horizon and HUGE!

In 2006 I had more "warnings" or "insights" than I can remember, about the financial systems and money and material world, basically showing me the total collapse of the entire economic/monetary system, from bank failures all over the place leading to complete banking system collapse, to stock market wipe-out, to seeing and being told clear as day that "China will bankrupt America". I've also been shown and told that money will "no longer exist". I was also told to "get rid of everything", including non-essential possessions and to "clear all clutter".

I've had many many visions past 3 years (including daytime and awake) of planes falling from the sky. I don't mean crashing, but suddenly dropping, almost silently, as if they just lost all power and couldn't fly suddenly. NO engine, No noise. I've seen this so may times, over land and sea. Thousands of them, just dropping like flies.

I've seen several times a weird futuristic train (only way I can describe it!), which was running on very high monorail type lines, but the most weird thing is it was above the sea/water and going out across the oceans. This seemed to show that the only transport was some kind of train way above sea level, built on special rails, which also crossed over whole seas. It was built extremely high up, like as high as a skyscraper. And seemed to move so fast, like nothing on earth.

For years, I've had many many MANY visions were I am flying, totally free an in control of where I go an how high etc, but in recent years, having this more and more, and even ones where Spirit are literally teaching me how to fly better/further!! Also, been shown many other people flying too, like whole crowds of people running and literally taking off into the air! OR pepple spontaneously floating upwards into the sky. Amazing feeling to see these!

I've also seen repeatedly in last 3 years these immense columns of intensely beautiful coloured lights, coming down from space above the earth, converging and pointing towards the North Pole, and stopping just short of our atmosphere. Within these columns of coloured light are beings, as in people who have passed into Spirit, wearing the most amazing irridescent coloured gowns of light. These columns of light converge and stop just above earth's atmosphere, meeting exactly at the North Pole, and are mirrored by what I can only call 'bands' or layers of the same colured light which seem to surround the Earth in seven (or sometimes nine) clearly defined concentric circles.. the band's colours are darker closer to earth, and lighter and brighter the further away from earth. I've painted these visions several times also.

I also had one journey in December 2006, where I was taken to what I can only describe as another planet, and I was looking back at Earth through some massive window, like a huge window with a frame of brilliant white light. There was someone with me, who was a human who had passed to Spirit (someone I knew of in this life but had never met or spoken to) he was the father of a brief-time friend years ago. He told med he'd passed over in 2006 (I had no idea of this!). He also told me that the beings on this planet/'plane' were trying to find a safe way to "transport the humans when needed". Now, this vision was incredibly detailed and vivid, and he was showing me some of the drawings/blueprints he was working on to try and divide some type of vehicle to safely "bring the humans over". He was also wearing a very distinct uniform, with a bright yellow/gold company logo on the left breast pocket. I remember asking if I could help in any way, an he said (this bit really amazed me!) "you will help, but not just yet". Then I looked back through the window at Earth and was seeing the Earth again with the Sun up close, and I sensed very strongly that something was wrong with the earth. The weirdest thing is, I eventually tracked down this one-time friend, late 2007, and had a chat, in which I managed to sensitvely ask a couple of questions (without relating my experience), and discovered their father had indeed passed away in Autumn 2006 and he had actually set-up and owned an engineering company back in the 60's, and had been a prolific gadget inventor too (I thought it might be a bit insensitive to ask about the company logo!).

Another incredibly vivid vision, which I've had a few times since early 2007, is of some kind of war, but it's really very weird, as it doesn't feel like any "normal" war (if there is such a thing). But I repeatedly see hundreds, thousands of aircraft, some earthly, some not so earthly looking (maybe earthly but not seen by the public yet?!) filling the skies, all the way along the coastlines of UK and Europe and beyond. There is a monumental battle going on, with lasers and all sorts of things being fired, and there are hundreds upon hundreds of aircraft dropping into the seas all over the place. What is the MOST remarkable thing on this vision, is that almost the entire population is out on the beaches and coastline, watching this battle taking place, day and night, millions of people, all over the coasts, and in the vision, I know the reason they are outside and watching is because this is "THE END" of something, as such, and there is nothing inland for them anymore, there are no homes or places left to go. The Coasts are the only places people are gathering. I get overwhelming sense the people are waiting for something. As they watch this massive and strange battle being carried out before them. There doesn't seem to be any fear, no screaming or cries or anything, nobody on the coastlines or beaches is being harmed at all. But it's like everyone is just gazing skyward, transfixed. Just calmly waiting for something. This dream is especially weird as it feels like it is happening 'real-time', now , yet it also feels like this is "yet to come". Strange.

I've already mentioned how I am repeatedly told that "one day, Spirit will walk the earth, clear as day, for all to see". I've been told this so many times, that it is firmly etched in my conscious mind now!

Most of the visions and journeys have been joyous experiences, even the ones showing things happening to Earth don't give any vibes of fear or doom as such, in fact, I always feel quite peaceful watching the events I'm shown.. and deeply calm.

However, a small handful have felt less than positive.. one off-world journeys in particular was more than a little disconcerting. It really frightened me... it started as I was being lifted up out of my home, through the rood and up an up above the town and then up above the earth, and suddenly everything went dark, and I mean pitch black, no stars, no moon, nothing. And it was cold, and suddenly very stormy, like a November gale in Northern England. In the distance, above the earth, appeared a human-like figure of light, but so bright I could hardly look at it. I couldn't see any facial features, or clothes or anything like that. it was pure light. And seemed to glow. It seemed to be 'calling' me to come to it, and as I noticed that, I found I was being pulled towards it, and couldn't stop myself. The force that was moving me was quite strong, but suddenly felt very unnerving, not pleasant, and I got the overwhelming sense that this figure was dangerous and trying to trick me to trust it. I was totally overcome with fear, I mean, terrified to the point I broke out in cold sweat and was shaking, my hear felt like it stopped or was up in my mouth. I immediately called out for protection/help, and instantly the force which was pulling me towards this thing instantly stopped and I returned back down to earth. I was extremely shaken and scared for several hours afterwards.

Ok, that's enough of my experiences for now. Please understand, I don't claim anything about these visions. I'm NOT psychic or a channeller or anything like that. I just wanted to share my experiences.

They could be completely random visions, they could mean nothing at all for all I know. I make no claims about them at all. They are not predictions, nor channellings from any "Blossom" type beings! But these are very real experiences, not dreams or my imagination, and many of which I've recorded in paintings, diaries and "Spirit writing" journals as best I can , whenever they happen, going back to 2006.

I hope they are of interest in some way, even if just a matter of curiosity for folks to read! :)

bsmurph83

03-09-2009, 03:39 AM

of some kind of war, but it's really very weird, as it doesn't feel like any "normal" war (if there is such a thing). But I repeatedly see hundreds, thousands of aircraft, some earthly, some not so earthly looking (maybe earthly but not seen by the public yet?!) filling the skies, all the way along the coastlines of UK and Europe and beyond. There is a monumental battle going on, with lasers and all sorts of things being fired, and there are hundreds upon hundreds of aircraft dropping into the seas all over the place. What is the MOST remarkable thing on this vision, is that almost the entire population is out on the beaches and coastline, watching this battle taking place, day and night, millions of people, all over the coasts, and in the vision, I know the reason they are outside and watching is because this is "THE END" of something, as such, and there is nothing inland for them anymore, there are no homes or places left to go. The Coasts are the only places people are gathering. I get overwhelming sense the people are waiting for something. As they watch this massive and strange battle being carried out before them. There doesn't seem to be any fear, no screaming or cries or anything, nobody on the coastlines or beaches is being harmed at all. But it's like everyone is just gazing skyward, transfixed. Just calmly waiting for something. This dream is especially weird as it feels like it is happening 'real-time', now , yet it also feels like this is "yet to come". Strange.

this is all very interesting reading! this section i find particularly interesting, that you feel it (the battle) is happening now in real-time but that it is still somehow yet to come. there are numerous references to a battle taking place between alien factions (or species) as we speak, as if in a nearby 'parallel' reality. humans are frequently mentioned as a 'prize' some aliens are fighting over, but yes, this battle(s?) is happening now (real-time) apparently, and moreover, it has been said on various occasions by different people that sooner or later this battle will become perceptible to us, presumably meaning that it will spill over from this intersecting parallel reality into our realm, at which point it is going to really scare the shit out of some people! this would be the 'yet to come' part :D

guess i'd better book a seat at the beach and get ready for the fireworks...:D

worlds beyond

03-09-2009, 12:47 PM

lol at getting ready for beach!

slightly off topic, but can anyone help me with how to attach pics/images? It seems I can't find how to, no matter where I look on site, it says at bottom of USER COp that Images are OFF, but no indication how to post pics etc.

I've got some pic waiting to be shared on here, but each time I try to add them to a post, they look like they've been posted in the Text box, but then when I press "submit", they just vanish! Am I being a techno dunce here? Or do I need to ask a Mod to enable me to post pics or something? Or is there a simple setting I need to change but haven't yet found? :confused:

ferret

03-09-2009, 02:26 PM

bsmurph83

03-09-2009, 03:13 PM

ferret

03-09-2009, 06:44 PM

dont know, ill have to ask and get back..

eternalwheel

04-09-2009, 12:42 AM

hey everybody, im kinda new round here. just thought id tell you this story, see what u make of it. my mum has told me this about a hundred times. it was christmas time, and my mum and dad was having a party, and i was only 3 years old, and i was sat on somebodys knee, my mums friend said to me ' do you like christmas sweetie' and i replied in apparently quite a grown up way saying ' ive been here before' and the woman said 'what do you mean?' and i said ' it was christmas time when i died in a car crash with my mother an father' and she says that the whole room just went deadly silent and everybody was staring at me, and the woman had to give me back to my mum because i had totally freaked them all out! i obviously dont remember it happening, but my mum never mixes up the details of the story. so yeah, weird eh! xx

Welcome to the forum :)
Cool story.

The work of Professor Ian Stevenson is quite interesting, and he dedicated a large part of his career to obtaining evidence for past life recall in children:

"The case usually starts when a small child of two to four years of age begins talking to his parents or siblings of a life he led in another time and place. The child usually feels a considerable pull back toward the events of the life and he frequently importunes his parents to let him return to the community where he claims that he formerly lived. If the child makes enough particular statements about the previous life, the parents (usually reluctantly) begin inquiries about their accuracy. Often, indeed usually, such attempts at verification do not occur until several years after the child has begun to speak of the previous life. If some verification results, members of the two families visit each other and ask the child whether he recognizes places, objects, and people of his supposed previous existence."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twenty_Cases_Suggestive_of_Reincarnation

worlds beyond

08-09-2009, 09:13 PM

quite good sources of info for anyone interested in NDE's:

http://www.angelfire.com/ne/newviews/life.html ... (this is free onine copy of one of Anthony Borgia's Books, "Life in the World Unseen")

http://near-death.com/

http://www.nderf.org/

http://www.drjohnlerma.com/home.html

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/7463606.stm

Enjoy! :)

(ooops.. apologies mods.. I meant to post this in here, but inadvertently posted it in a different thread.. feel free to remove the other one if you so wish!)

crystalline

08-09-2009, 10:12 PM

Welcome to the forum :)
Cool story.

The work of Professor Ian Stevenson is quite interesting, and he dedicated a large part of his career to obtaining evidence for past life recall in children:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twenty_Cases_Suggestive_of_Reincarnation

I agree that children are very susceptible and open to spiritual experience. I remember when my son was about 3 and I was tucking him into bed. He looked at me and said he used to like to be tucked up tightly just like this when he used to be a man, he then said, but I had to be born again. He also had an imaginary friend during his early years called Bodo. I always thought Bodo was some figment of his imagination, until I watched a documentary on Kurt Cobain, and his aunt said he had an imaginary friend called Bodo:eek: