Chemtrail Planes Forced Down in India and Nigeria

[real6]

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US Reported In “Panic” After Chemtrail Planes Forced Down In India, Nigeria
　
Russian Military Analysts are reporting in the Kremlin today that US Military Forces are “panicked” over the forced landings ordered by Indian and Nigerian Air Forces of two Ukrainian AN-124 aircraft [photo top left] operated by the United States Air Force and based at their gigantic, but secretive, Diego Garcia air base located in the Indian Ocean.

According to these reports, China’s People's Liberation Army Air Force (PLAAF) notified both India and Nigerian intelligence officials about the presence of these US operated Ukrainian aircraft over their growing concerns of the United States spreading of “biological agents” throughout our Earth’s atmosphere, and which some Chinese officials are warning is an American-European attempt to conduct mass genocide via the spread of the H1N1 swine flu virus which has put the entire Global population at risk.
The first of these aircraft to be ordered down, these reports continue, was over India when a US operated AN-124 changed its call sign from civilian to military as it was preparing to enter Pakistani air space, and which triggered an immediate response from the IAF who forced it to land in Mumbai, and the second one was forced down by Nigerian fighter jets who promptly arrested both the crew and the plane itself.

Most strange about the reports filed by Indian and Nigerian intelligence agencies about these aircraft, other than the armaments they were carrying, were their waste disposal systems that these reports say could hold in excess of 45,000 kg (100,000 pounds) and from which a “technologically sophisticated” network of nano-pipes led to the trailing edges of the wings and horizontal stabilizers for “dispersing” the contents of the waste tanks in an “aerial-type mist”.

“Furious” demands made by the United States to both India and Nigeria for the release of their planes led to Indian Defense officials allowing the AN-124 they had captured to be released. Nigeria, however, had to be “forcefully persuaded” to release its captured US plane when after its initial refusal to do so than had one of their major oil pipelines blown up by one of the many American backed terrorist groups operating in their country.
To the many, and conflicting, issues surrounding these chemtrails it is not in our expertise to examine in depth, other than to note that the American based Sunshine Project organization in a 2002 accused the US military of “conducting a chemical weapons research and development program in violation of international arms control law”, and stated:

“JNLWD's [US Department of Defense's Joint Non-Lethal Weapons Directorate] secret program is not focusing on highly lethal agents such as VX or sarin. Rather, the emphasis is on "non-lethal" chemical weapons that incapacitate. JNLWD's science advisors define "non-lethal" as resulting in death or permanent injury in 1 in 100 victims.(1) JNLWD's Research Director told a US military magazine "We need something besides tear gas, like calmatives, anesthetic agents, that would put people to sleep or in a good mood." (2) These weapons are intended for use against "potentially hostile civilians", in anti-terrorism operations, counterinsurgency, and other military operations.

The major focus of JNLWD's operation is on the use of drugs as weapons, particularly so-called "calmatives", a military term for mind-altering or sleep inducing chemical weapons.”
Curious to note about this secret US Military programme to release upon its citizens “calmative agents” is that it appears to be working as no other Nation in the World is more docile and complacent about its destruction than these Americans, who, in just one example, allowed their presidential vote for Vice President Al Gore to be stolen from them by George Bush in their 2000 election, and, even worse, fail to even notice that their current president, Barak Obama, is continuing Bush’s outlawed policies, including one of the most dangerous for these people allowing the US government to hold any of them without trial forever should they be branded “terrorists”.
But, to the worst fears of our World about these new events, and as we have previously reported on, and should China’s Intelligence Agencies be correct in their reports about the United States’ plan for mass Global genocide, we can read as reported on by noted Austrian investigative journalist Jane Burgermeister, who this past week filed criminal charges with the FBI against the World Health Organization (WHO), the United Nations (UN) of which is said:

“In her charges, Burgermeister presents evidence of acts of bioterrorism that is in violation of U.S. law by a group operating within the U.S. under the direction of international bankers who control the Federal Reserve, as well as WHO, UN and NATO. This bioterrorism is for the purpose of carrying out a mass genocide against the U.S. population by use of a genetically engineered flu pandemic virus with the intent of causing death. This group has annexed high government offices in the U..S.
Specifically, evidence is presented that the defendants, Barack Obama, President of the U.S, David Nabarro, UN System Coordinator for Influenza, Margaret Chan, Director-General of WHO, Kathleen Sibelius, Secretary of Department of Health and Human Services, Janet Napolitano, Secretary of Department of Homeland Security, David de Rotschild, banker, David Rockefeller, banker, George Soros, banker, Werner Faymann, Chancellor of Austria, and Alois Stoger, Austrian Health Minister, among others, are part of this international corporate criminal syndicate which has developed, produced, stockpiled and employed biological weapons to eliminate the population of the U.S. and other countries for financial and political gain.

The charges contend that these defendants conspired with each other and others to devise, fund and participate in the final phase of the implementation of a covert international bioweapons program involving the pharmaceutical companies Baxter and Novartis. They did this by bioengineering and then releasing lethal biological agents, specifically the "bird flu" virus and the "swine flu virus" in order to have a pretext to implement a forced mass vaccination program which would be the means of administering a toxic biological agent to cause death and injury to the people of the U.S. This action is in direct violation of the Biological Weapons Anti-terrorism Act.
Burgermeister's charges include evidence that Baxter AG, Austrian subsidiary of Baxter International, deliberately sent out 72 kilos of live bird flu virus, supplied by the WHO in the winter of 2009 to 16 laboratories in four counties. She claims this evidence offers clear proof that the pharmaceutical companies and international government agencies themselves are actively engaged in producing, developing, manufacturing and distributing biological agents classified as the most deadly bioweapons on earth in order to trigger a pandemic and cause mass death.”

To the American people themselves, perhaps, the worst is about to befall them as new reports from the US are stating that their Centers For Disease Control (CDC) has ordered an unprecedented 600 million doses of swine flu vaccine to be forced upon these people who under their present Swine Flu Public Health Emergency have no choice but to take these vaccines or face 10 years in prison.

What makes these 600 million swine flu vaccines ordered by the US government for their people most curious is that, as it stands right now, it is IMPOSSIBLE for any vaccine to be produced for the H1N1 swine flue virus as it is continuing to evolve as new reports from Brazil clearly show and, most ominously, even from the United States itself where an Oregon child “identified only as "younger than 5 years old," died June 15, and infection with the swine flu virus was confirmed by the Oregon State Public Health Laboratory Tuesday. The child had "no known underlying medical conditions and a two-day history of fever," and was not hospitalized”.

It goes without saying, of course, that these American people have no idea about the over year-long process involved in making any type of influenza vaccine once the virus stops mutating, but then again, no one ever accused these peoples of being anything other than the sheep-like simpletons they’ve become as they continue to watch the destruction of their once great Nation at the very hands of those they believe are helping them.
And to those, like us, who continue to shout true warnings at them? As absurd as it may sound, it remains the sad fact that those telling them truth are called liars, and those lying to them are believed. Never once do any of them question what their leaders and propaganda media tell them to think or believe.

[mynameis]

What link this is from?

http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/PoliticsNation/Intruder-aircraft-can-leave-Mumbai/articleshow/4680470.cms

http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=113768.0

[real6]

I dont know, i found it in google and its blocked from ICKE.

[simmo]

Photos of the spraying systems installed on these planes need to be released world-wide.

[iliveinhope]

I found it on www.fourwinds10.com a few weeks ago.
type in chemtrails and search the fourwinds10 site.

[tyler]

This could be the big break that anti-chemtrail groups need.

I sure hope the Nigerians got loads of photos though they are all so damned corrupt they will be easily bought off by the Americans. Same with the Indians unfortunately. Indians are a pathetic bunch. No backbone.

Ukranian aircraft, huh?

[iliveinhope]

Ukranian made i think

[rodin]

GLP = ************************ I have found. A wise auto deletion I think. Unlike my democracy statement signature :mad:

[rynath]

Photos of the spraying systems installed on these planes need to be released world-wide.

Finally someone brings a few of these planes down. I agree, photo every inch of the planes, test the spray and out with it!

I have a sinking feeling this article will be the last we'll hear about these 2 planes.

[michael christopher]

I have a sinking feeling this article will be the last we'll hear about these 2 planes.

Me too.

[el jefe]

http://www.fourwinds10.com/siterun_data/environment/humans/chemtrails/news.php?q=1246309936

[hobo]

Caught in the act: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hecjdZcNjt0

[simmo]

It would appear that way certainly!

[ghostdogg]

today in belgium a mayor filed a official complaint against chemtrails ... the article is placed on a official newssite in belgium ... i smell some disclosure ... :) :) :)

[diggers_1]

Here is another news article I found.

http://www.zap16.com/images/AN-124-100%20RA-82081%20Volga%20Dnepr.jpg

http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/community_conway_blog/images/2008/03/02/an124.jpg

http://www.flightglobal.com/Assets/GetAsset.aspx?ItemID=5606

US AN-124 (?) forced to land in India?
In late June, an AN-124 owned by a Ukrainian airline. operated by a Russian crew, but leased to the US was forced to land in India. The Times of India story, reporting the event, is here. The key part of the story is:



The Ukrainian-made military cargo aircraft, owned by Russian private airline Volga-Dnepr, was wet-leased (aircraft hired along with pilots and crew) to the US military and was on its way to Kandahar after leaving the US military base in Diego Garcia island in the Indian Ocean on Friday.

"It had 18 passengers on board, all Russians by nationality, including cockpit crew, technicians and engineers. The aircraft did not carry any arms and ammunition on board. It had three non-military armoured ambulances (even ambulances used in Operation Enduring Freedom are armoured as the combat zone in Afghanistan is wired with landmines). It was also carrying bedsheets and medicines,'' an official said.

The aircraft with the Nato code name Condor had landed in India several times in the past while operating for different companies. It entered Indian airspace at 8 pm on Friday and had the status of a civilian aircraft while it was flying over the Indian flight region. Its "call sign'' was VDA 4466. "But before entering Pakistani airspace, the pilot radioed to the air traffic controller across the border with another call sign, REACH 813, which meant it was a military cargo aircraft,'' the official added.


At first this struck me as a pretty routine event. A little digging turned up an explanation by a blogger named Lethal Lou at militaryphotos.net, here:


When the Air Mobility Command (AMC) contracts for civil lift you operate under a specific military callsign if you are flying into CENTCOM. After you unload you continue with the same callsign until your first bounce after departing; at that point you can revert to a purely civil callsign. Note that you would usually have a military callsign, military mission number and civlian flight number. The problem with India is - let's say you do a full offload in Kuwait and ferry out to Bangkok non-stop, overflying India en route. You must use your military designation even though you are now a purely commercial ferry flight. India won't allow you to overfly even though they clearly (after 20+ years of this kinda stuff) understand the deal - it has to do with their non-aligned status. So, you fly around India over Sri Lanka. You cannot change flight numbers en route or fly with dual military/civil flight numbers. And flying the FIR only works once or twice. In this instance the Antonov guys were under load so they would have had to request overfly permits 7-10 days prior. Maybe they didn't get them but launched anyway figuring they'd come thru en route or given that they had an application on file they could sweet talk ATC into continuing. Anyway, bottom line is that India normally doesn't force commercial airliners down for any reason. They were sending a message with this exercise.



So the specific issues like where was the plane going, what was it carrying, etc appear to be resolved.

On the other hand, you kind of have to wonder about the fact that Ukrainian cargo aircraft with Russian crews are operating out of Diego Garcia. After all, even if these Russians aren't spies, when they get home to Russia and are interviewed by the FSB they presumably will be. So you have to assume that this is not the US military's first choice as an option to resupply Afghanistan.

The simplest explanation, and therefore probably the correct explanation, is that the US has a shortage of C5A's and had to hire additional huge transport aircraft. There are not all that many aircraft as big as the C5A around, and the AN-124 can carry more cargo than a C5A. So maybe these Ukrainian owned and Russian operated transport aircraft are the only planes the US could get that were up to the requirements. The Russian pilots and flight crew might mean nothing more than that the only people available who know how to fly an AN-124 are Russian.

This would strongly suggest that the US is actually incapable of massively expanding its effort in Afghanistan quickly, since it is already reduced to hiring Russian pilots to fly out of Diego Garcia to support it.

Another explanation is that the people who hired the AN-124 do not have access to the Air Force C5-A fleet. The CIA has a large operation in Afghanistan that is not subject to the military chain of command. I have trouble believing that the CIA would rather hire Russians to fly leased aircraft than depend on the US Air Force, but stranger things have happened { in WWII the Japanese army was reduced to ordering and operating its own supply submarines }. This would suggest that the divided command of US forces operating in Afghanistan has effects beyond the obvious one of making it hard for the leadership to adopt and enforce a unified strategy.

It is of course possible that the two explanations are combined. There may not be enough air transport capability to meet demand. In that case I would expect the USAF to favor the USAF, then the US army, and leave the CIA and other organizations outside the US military to fend for themselves. Fending for themselves might involve hiring Ukrainian transport aircraft and Russian pilots.

It is highly unlikely that the US military wants to admit that its current level of effort in Afghanistan is stretching its logistical capacity. After all, that would encourage the Taliban and other enemies of the US to escalate their effort, which is not what you want when your logistical capacity is stretched. But US citizens, wondering about how we're doing in Iraq and Afghanistan, should probably be aware that our logistical capabilities may become a limiting factor.

[real6]

Photos of the spraying systems installed on these planes need to be released world-wide.

A few weeks back on youtube someone somehow had all these photos of the insides and outsides of these chemtrail planes and the stuff they were putting them into it. I have no idea why the hell i didnt post it. I would love to find it again. Anyone seen this video?

[655321]

Edward Teller invented the whole chemtrail thing to slow down global warming. His plan was to block 1% of the incoming rays with aluminum oxide and barium.

[el jefe]

Caught in the act: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hecjdZcNjt0

Wonder what all the words say....A few weeks back on youtube someone somehow had all these photos of the insides and outsides of these chemtrail planes and the stuff they were putting them into it. I have no idea why the hell i didnt post it. I would love to find it again. Anyone seen this video?
These?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EOJ4z8yqa54
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-TgFX-UkeM

[el jefe]

http://www.democracyfornewhampshire.com/node/view/6649
http://article.wn.com/view/2009/06/20/India_says_USchartered_plane_violated_airspace/

[real6]

Wonder what all the words say....
These?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EOJ4z8yqa54
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-TgFX-UkeM

I'm at work so jootube is blocked. By the pics of the thumbnails those could be it. Ill see when i mhome tonight :)

[rodin]

I'm at work so jootube is blocked. By the pics of the thumbnails those could be it. Ill see when i mhome tonight :)

Or crop sprayer?

[jiffy]

Hmmm yet another story with no evidence:rolleyes:

All the evidence mentions munitions then someone decides it's chemtrails and everyone starts shouting "see evidence":rolleyes:

No wonder it's hard to get people to listen to a "EVIDENCE" based conspiracy

[el jefe]

http://ibnlive.in.com/news/us-plane-forced-to-land-in-mumbai-crew-questioned/95269-3.html

http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk199/RepnPB21/Capture-76.jpg
Here is another news article I found.

http://www.zap16.com/images/AN-124-100%20RA-82081%20Volga%20Dnepr.jpg

http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/community_conway_blog/images/2008/03/02/an124.jpg


This looks to be the plane, I dont see anything out of the ordinary with it....

[hobo]

el jefe, I don´t speak italian, but my guess is: "chemtrails Rome 1. of June seen at 13.20 / 1.20 p.m."

[hobo]

Or crop sprayer?

Crop sprayer in Rome? Come on

[redskywalker]

What is it about these people who do this kind of work for the elite?
They must realise their part in it is the main part? I can imagine the result of Qe1* the lizardbreath most low, trying to stick a needle in me, or make me eat poison. It's time those people realised.

*There has never been a queen elizabeth 1st of britain.

[el jefe]

What is it about these people who do this kind of work for the elite?
They must realise their part in it is the main part? [/I]
They are probably being told they are releasing cooling chemicals to defeat global warming :D

as of yet, the only thing odd about this is a random article about chemtrails. Theres 3 pics of the plane in this thread and there is nothing strange about it from what I can see. At least comparing it to the planes in the video I posted....

[michael christopher]

Hmmm yet another story with no evidence:rolleyes:

All the evidence mentions munitions then someone decides it's chemtrails and everyone starts shouting "see evidence":rolleyes:

No wonder it's hard to get people to listen to a "EVIDENCE" based conspiracy

Well regardless of whether or not this story is made up, if you want proof that they are spraying chemtrails all over the western nations all you need to do is look up in the damn sky.

[el jefe]

Well regardless of whether or not this story is made up, if you want proof that they are spraying chemtrails all over the western nations all you need to do is look up in the damn sky.
Just to play the Devils Advocate(not sure you even believe in the Devil...) but all we see is smoke. How do you know whats in it without going up there, getting a sample and testing it? How do we know its not just exhaust gases.

Dont get me wrong....I wouldn't put it past the powers that be to inflict new diseases upon the world in this way, I just dont see all the solid proof everyone has on big bad "chemtrails."

[vienna]

good find

[michael christopher]

Just to play the Devils Advocate(not sure you even believe in the Devil...) but all we see is smoke. How do you know whats in it without going up there, getting a sample and testing it? How do we know its not just exhaust gases.

Dont get me wrong....I wouldn't put it past the powers that be to inflict new diseases upon the world in this way, I just dont see all the solid proof everyone has on big bad "chemtrails."

Because jet vapors disappear after five minutes and chem-trails hang in the sky for hours and hours, and storms seem to follow them quite closely.

Also, jet vapor trails didn't hang in the sky until 1996, and then the government demonized anyone who pointed it out until last year when they FINALLY admitted they are "thinking about" (i.e. already doing) shooting silver ionide into the atmosphere to help "prevent global warming." Just oh-so-coincidentally they were going to/are doing this by putting these special chemicals in the back of jets and flying around, spraying them... which just coincidentally sounds exactly like what they are already doing. Coincidentally of course, I mean, I'm not in the military, which means I shouldn't believe my own eyes or ears... I should just assume those unnatural trails they are blasting into the sky are good for my health in spite of the massive amount of evidence to the contrary.

Dude, the evidence is vast, you seem rather uneducated in the area.

Also, the devil is inside.

[el jefe]

Because jet vapors disappear after five minutes and chem-trails hang in the sky for hours and hours, and storms seem to follow them quite closely.Also, jet vapor trails didn't hang in the sky until 1996, and then the government demonized anyone who pointed it out until last year when they FINALLY admitted they are "thinking about" (i.e. already doing) shooting silver ionide into the atmosphere to help "prevent global warming." Just oh-so-coincidentally they were going to/are doing this by putting these special chemicals in the back of jets and flying around, spraying them... which just coincidentally sounds exactly like what they are already doing. Coincidentally of course, I mean, I'm not in the military, which means I shouldn't believe my own eyes or ears... I should just assume those unnatural trails they are blasting into the sky are good for my health in spite of the massive amount of evidence to the contrary.
Didnt know or realize this, Ill keep my eyes open from now on



Dude, the evidence is vast, you seem rather uneducated in the area.
:D Im spending too much time on researching the Illuminati, Bilderberg meetings, AJ, Fake bonds, Bibles, etc

Also, the devil is inside.
Inside, outside, all around. Not made up by the people:cool:

[michael christopher]

Didnt know or realize this, Ill keep my eyes open from now on




:D Im spending too much time on researching the Illuminati, Bilderberg meetings, AJ, Fake bonds, Bibles, etc


Inside, outside, all around. Not made up by the people:cool:

I would agree that it's "real" in the sense that it's an energetic force, but it's channeled through human beings and the only reason this dark energy has any presence in our world is because individuals allow themselves to be used as it's vehicle.

It's not about victims or trickery. People only trick themselves. The truth is self-evident. The devil is "real" in the sense that all metaphors are real expressions of energy - so there really is a dark "Satanic" energy if you will, but the more appropriate term for that energy, at least in my opinion, would be the spirit of Repression, and that spirit is an aspect of humanity just like it's opposite - the Christ/Salvation/Love spirit - is another aspect of humanity.

[deem]

Global warming my arse, they've been spraying this crap in the air since 1952. Global warming is a government invention to introduce more stealth taxs. It funny dont you think? That as the tempreture on Earth has slowly risen in recent years, so has the tempretures of the other planets in our solar system. Mmm! what do they all have in common? whats that big bright thing in the sky?

[rynath]

http://ibnlive.in.com/news/us-plane-forced-to-land-in-mumbai-crew-questioned/95269-3.html

http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk199/RepnPB21/Capture-76.jpg


This looks to be the plane, I dont see anything out of the ordinary with it....

Do you guys know what the gray thing is for on the end of the wing? Is that another engine or a fuel tank?

[el jefe]

http://www.zap16.com/images/AN-124-100%20RA-82081%20Volga%20Dnepr.jpg

[rynath]

I'm looking at the horizon in the background directly to the left of the engine. Just my eyes playing tricks on me.

[marc_o]

Where are the sources?

The original article in india times make no metion of biological agents nor chemtrails.

I cant seem to locate the sources for any of the information in that article.

Can someone enlighten me as to the direction of the source?

[el jefe]

Hmmmm

http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/image/0908/morninggloryclouds_petroff.jpg

[dolores1]

I walked into a chemtrail deposit last October on an early moning walk here in Northern Ireland. it was very thick as the plane had only taken off. My home is about 1 mile as the crow flies from the airport which is also an RAF base.

Within 1 hour my chest hurt and my breathing became laboured. I saw my Dr. who said I had an infection? 4 sets of very heavy antibiotics later it has not gone away as of Aug 09. I discussed chemtrails with him but he had no understanding of the attacts?

I believe it would be worse but for my self help using natural medicine. But I know this chemtrail damaged me. My neighbours have suffered also.

I also think the chemtrails are seeded with nanos including the means to nano build RFID chips to come together in my and others bloodstreams to complete a signal. The swine flu also has the nano techknowledgy within it to trace the people who can overcome the attack and use their DNA to weaken others who can survive this. And also so the NWO can say they do not use RFID chips.

[el jefe]

Find out exactly what he diagnosed it as. What kind of infection?

[always_rebel]

Lucky bastards! :/



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[always_rebel]

http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i77/jervicb/chemtrails.jpg

[real6]

http://www.disclose.tv/forum/cia-chemtrail-plane-shot-down-in-china-t12824.html

[citroen999]

[QUOTE=el jefe;1205174]Wonder what all the words say....
These?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EOJ4z8yqa54


i would say this is not a chemtrail plane as its a propellor powered plane and not a high flying jet liner from which we see chemtrails

[citroen999]

Hmmmm

http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/image/0908/morninggloryclouds_petroff.jpg

but on the other hand this pic is fucking outrageous

[real6]

but on the other hand this pic is fucking outrageous

wow

[girlgye]

Photos of the spraying systems installed on these planes need to be released world-wide.

oh didn't you know they had been released but our friendly denial merchants have stated that they are 'cough' pretend passengers to get the wheel balancing right.
Laugh I nearly died at that one!

You see in physics. You know the kind they use in automobiles. They use simulated dummies about the weight of humans. However, our friendly denial merchant seems to think that beer barrels on masse with tubes being fed out of them and computer machinary is aircraft testing for real people. Doh. He feels he has to give el thickos a slice of the alternative explanation just in case we are unable to think for ourselves.

[girlgye]

Because jet vapors disappear after five minutes and chem-trails hang in the sky for hours and hours, and storms seem to follow them quite closely.

Also, jet vapor trails didn't hang in the sky until 1996, and then the government demonized anyone who pointed it out until last year when they FINALLY admitted they are "thinking about" (i.e. already doing) shooting silver ionide into the atmosphere to help "prevent global warming." Just oh-so-coincidentally they were going to/are doing this by putting these special chemicals in the back of jets and flying around, spraying them... which just coincidentally sounds exactly like what they are already doing. Coincidentally of course, I mean, I'm not in the military, which means I shouldn't believe my own eyes or ears... I should just assume those unnatural trails they are blasting into the sky are good for my health in spite of the massive amount of evidence to the contrary.

Dude, the evidence is vast, you seem rather uneducated in the area.

Also, the devil is inside.


Look into the news stories about black lungs in Georgia/Ukraine and the filming of the chemtrails and planes that flew over before people started getting struck down with the mystery killer flu the likes of which the docs had no explanation for.

[oioioi]

oh didn't you know they had been released but our friendly denial merchants have stated that they are 'cough' pretend passengers to get the wheel balancing right.
Laugh I nearly died at that one!

You see in physics. You know the kind they use in automobiles. They use simulated dummies about the weight of humans. However, our friendly denial merchant seems to think that beer barrels on masse with tubes being fed out of them and computer machinary is aircraft testing for real people. Doh. He feels he has to give el thickos a slice of the alternative explanation just in case we are unable to think for ourselves.

And one of the planes in a clip earlier in this thread is half decked out with passenger seating and half barrels.

[wakeup2nwo]

but on the other hand this pic is fucking outrageous

lol, there not chemtrails, there real clouds called rolling clouds..

http://images.google.co.uk/images?hl=en-GB&q=rolling+clouds&rlz=1B3GGGL_en-GBGB330GB330&um=1&ie=UTF-8&ei=i3O6S9ndNaD20gSzkpD9Bg&sa=X&oi=image_result_group&ct=title&resnum=1&ved=0CA8QsAQwAA

[subl1minal]

but on the other hand this pic is fucking outrageous

http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/image/0908/morninggloryclouds_petroff.jpg

Amazing! :eek:

[ach76]

I can die happy, knowing the word is out and the world is largely aware of Chemtrails

For years I posted in as many forums as I could find, trying to alert people

But back then, the disinfo-merchants were far more numerous and active, with the result Mr. and Ms. Average genuinely laughed at the idea of Chems and if they bothered to post anything other than rows of mocking smileys, they'd ask, in all honesty, ' But why would the government spray us with stuff? Why would they ? ' etc.

I used to go nearly out of my mind with rage, day after day, night after night, as the Chem planes sowed their parallel rows of poisons. Some were so arrogant that they'd spray loop-de-loops as their tanks ran out. Or they'd spray huge crosses in the sky, or grids

Every night, beginning soon after sunset (sometimes they didn't give a damn and sprayed across the sunset) I'd see the familiar parallel rows, miles long, appearing in an otherwise clear sky. But most people just don't look up and even if they did, their minds would be to busy on 'important issues' to bother questioning the weirdness happening above their heads

Ten years of it. My blood pressure literally soared in helplessness at what was happening. And I was able to time the onset of weird arthritis-type symptoms with the advent of the Chems

Then, just as I was burning-out, the scales finally tipped, and people were refusing to bow-down to forum 'experts' and bullies who ridiculed all commentary about Chemtrails. People's eyes had opened. I danced a little jig of joy. And in one particular forum, a big-mouth Chemtrail-denier who'd claimed loud and long (and was believed by most) that he is a meteorologist, finally had to drop the lies and BS --- because the proof was by then overwhelming. So then he began pretending to 'care'. And he dragged up the old lies about Chemtrails being 'a misguided, or maybe even successful attempt, by TPTB, to combat 'global warming'

All the way through, I've been saying that out there, Mr. and Ms. Average are paying their mortgages and holiday homes, kids education, new cars, etc. --- courtesy of the Chemtrail industry

Someone makes the stuff. Someone is paid to order the various chemicals to be used. Someone measures the quantities. Someone mixes the stuff. Someone packages the stuff. We're not talking rare and isolated individuals here. This is a massive industry. It delivers millions of tons of poisons into the atmosphere daily. It's big business. It has to employ thousands.

Someone loads the stuff (into containers, tankers, whatever). Someone drives the stuff from the factories to the airports. Lots of someones. And they're not all innocents. They value their jobs and pay. They've had to sign confidentiality agreements. They gossip with co-workers. So a lot of them know exactly what it is they're producing and delivering and loading, etc.

It's delivered to the airports. It has to be stored. People are employed to do that. It has to be loaded into the planes. People are employed to do that. And other people are paid to guard all the premises involved. Big industry

They're out there. Some of them read Chemtrail threads in forums just like this. Some of them will have read this. They know. They just hope like hell that none of their neighbours or family know what they do for a living

Do you know someone who works in the Chemtrail industry ? Do you consider them to be accessories to murder ?

The way to bring down the Chemtrail industry is to attack the beast's toes and feet --- to expose and interrogate the lowest rung of the Chemtrail madness. And the lowest rung is the labourers in the Chemtrail industry

You may be one. Or you may know one. If you keep your silence, sure, you might live to die a natural death. But will your kids ? Will your grandkids ?

Work it out. Sure, lots of overtime in the Chemtrail industry. It's a 24/7 operation, worldwide. It might pay off your mortgage early, allowing you to retire and build that conservatory and take holidays in Spain which make your neighbours jealous. But you'd need to be a very short-term thinker to convince yourself that any job is a good job, any pay is good pay. Think about it

[vladmir]

ach76, i feel your pain brother, thanks for the post.

[eternal wheel]

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g303/flumpkins/animated-facepalm-thumb-512x512.gif

[prajna]

I won't commit to an opinion with regard to chemtrails (I wouldn't put it past the bastards) but google 'sacha faal', the purported author of the article, and decide for yourself how likely it is that the chemtrail 'additives' to the original story, reported in the Indian press, are based in fact. If you want people to seriously consider the possibility that chemtrails are real then you would do well to rely on more credible 'evidence' than that offered by sacha faal.

[free_thinker]

oh didn't you know they had been released but our friendly denial merchants have stated that they are 'cough' pretend passengers to get the wheel balancing right.
Laugh I nearly died at that one!

You see in physics. You know the kind they use in automobiles. They use simulated dummies about the weight of humans. However, our friendly denial merchant seems to think that beer barrels on masse with tubes being fed out of them and computer machinary is aircraft testing for real people. Doh. He feels he has to give el thickos a slice of the alternative explanation just in case we are unable to think for ourselves.

It isn't to get the wheel balancing right, it's about uneven weight distribution and changing centre of gravity and how that effects the plane during flight.Barrels connected together can easily and quickly transfer weight during flight or to do it your way:-

Load 150 full size crash test dummies weighing 70-80kgs each then during flight move 50 by hand to the back of the plane, then move, by hand, them all over to the right, then move, by hand, them to the front, etc, etc.

[eternal wheel]

Because jet vapors disappear after five minutes and chem-trails hang in the sky for hours and hours.
lies.
who told you that?
why do you believe them without doing your own checking?
this falsehood has been proven to be bullshit hundreds of times over.

Also, jet vapor trails didn't hang in the sky until 1996,
lies again.
i can provide pictures of jet contrails lingering for hours going back to when jets first flew, in WWII. how many pics would you like???

[eternal wheel]

I also think the chemtrails are seeded with nanos including the means to nano build RFID chips to come together in my and others bloodstreams to complete a signal. The swine flu also has the nano techknowledgy within it
oh dear. :rolleyes:

[eternal wheel]

http://www.disclose.tv/forum/cia-chemtrail-plane-shot-down-in-china-t12824.html

"This is an unbeleivable news of a chemtrail plane operated by the cia and shot down by the israely mossad in china".

ahh, disclose tv. that paragon of unbiased, researched news reporting..... :rolleyes:

[oioioi]

It isn't to get the wheel balancing right, it's about uneven weight distribution and changing centre of gravity and how that effects the plane during flight.Barrels connected together can easily and quickly transfer weight during flight or to do it your way:-

Load 150 full size crash test dummies weighing 70-80kgs each then during flight move 50 by hand to the back of the plane, then move, by hand, them all over to the right, then move, by hand, them to the front, etc, etc.

But one of the pics shows a plane half decked out with seats too. Are they just testing the back end of the plane?

[eternal wheel]

oh didn't you know they had been released but our friendly denial merchants have stated that they are 'cough' pretend passengers to get the wheel balancing right.
Laugh I nearly died at that one!

You see in physics. You know the kind they use in automobiles. They use simulated dummies about the weight of humans. However, our friendly denial merchant seems to think that beer barrels on masse with tubes being fed out of them and computer machinary is aircraft testing for real people. Doh. He feels he has to give el thickos a slice of the alternative explanation just in case we are unable to think for ourselves.

are you on your period, dear??
well, you can spell 'physics', shame you don't understand it at all.:rolleyes:

[eternal wheel]

Big industry
the Chemtrail industry ?
the Chemtrail industry
the Chemtrail industry
in the Chemtrail industry.
It's a 24/7 operation, worldwide.

please, please, please, show me even a tiny bit of evidence or proof.....

[fork]

are you on your period, dear??
well, you can spell 'physics', shame you don't understand it at all.:rolleyes:

I am not trying to be confrontational here but I am interested in your reasons for constantly trying to disprove the existence of chemtrails. Is it just this site you spend time on or do you frequent others. I am interested because you seem obsessed with a mission to debunk people. May be you are just trying to help people see it your way, may be you think the world would be a better place if all this chemtrail talk just stopped. I am honestly interested to why you feel so passionate about it. Why do you do it, why the need. This post is not supposed to sound sarcastic and if it does it was not intentional.

[eternal wheel]

But one of the pics shows a plane half decked out with seats too. Are they just testing the back end of the plane?

all those thumbnails are easily explainable, none are anything to do with so called chemtrails.
please re-post any one, (or a few), and i'll happily tell you whats really going on, not the lies and propaganda you get from the "pro-chemtrail" sites.

some people out there are investing a HELL of a lot of time and money in perpetuating this hoax.
i wonder why?
smoke and mirrors?
whats REALLY going on that they don't want the inquisitive minds of the conspiracy theorists to look at?
"lets keep them going round in circles with this chemtrail rubbish, while we get on with xxxxxxx"........

[free_thinker]

"lets keep them going round in circles with this chemtrail rubbish, while we get on with xxxxxxx"........

Dammit man, you've given the plan away!!.:eek:

[oioioi]

all those thumbnails are easily explainable, none are anything to do with so called chemtrails.
please re-post any one, (or a few), and i'll happily tell you whats really going on, not the lies and propaganda you get from the "pro-chemtrail" sites.

some people out there are investing a HELL of a lot of time and money in perpetuating this hoax.
i wonder why?
smoke and mirrors?
whats REALLY going on that they don't want the inquisitive minds of the conspiracy theorists to look at?
"lets keep them going round in circles with this chemtrail rubbish, while we get on with xxxxxxx"........

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-TgFX-UkeM

1:53 in to the vid.

[eternal wheel]

I am not trying to be confrontational here but I am interested in your reasons for constantly trying to disprove the existence of chemtrails. Is it just this site you spend time on or do you frequent others. I am interested because you seem obsessed with a mission to debunk people. May be you are just trying to help people see it your way, may be you think the world would be a better place if all this chemtrail talk just stopped. I am honestly interested to why you feel so passionate about it. Why do you do it, why the need. This post is not supposed to sound sarcastic and if it does it was not intentional.
i frequent other sites, but not under the name i use on here.
i'm not trying to be confrontational, maybe it's just the way i speak/write.
as i see it, there are certain people/groups of people, who, for whatever reason, are spending a LOT of time and money perpetuating the chemtrail myth.
a lot of well meaning people who, through no fault of their own, know no better, are taken in by this bunkum.
i'm just trying to put the others side of the coin up, as it were. so people can make an informed decision.
i believe there is a small amount of genuine 'chemtrailing' done by the military for nefarous purposes.
all the big fat white trails in the sky are an unfortunate by-product of modern aviation.
there is NO global, orchistrated consiracy of spraying involving thousands of huge planes, and all the infrastructure that would involve.

[davie donna]

i believe there is a small amount of genuine 'chemtrailing' done by the military for nefarous purposes.


Oh really? Please explain your point of view on this.


there is NO global, orchistrated consiracy of spraying involving thousands of huge planes, and all the infrastructure that would involve.

Why is this such a radical and crazy idea to you? How can you say with the certainty of a Christian or Muslim that you KNOW it can't be a possibility? A very close-minded point of view.

What about the Manhattan Project? That was a very real conspiracy with lots of infrastructure that was kept totally secret for many years. What about the evil global monopoly that's been taking place in agribusiness? What about evidence of European nations spraying the public in the past from vehicles?

It's silly for you to say that the idea falls outside the realm of possibility especially with the massive amount of eye-witnesses and pictures of the activity in the skies. Crosses, grids, and various patterns that look nothing like conventional flight paths.

EDIT: As a final thing I have to ask why you feel the need to antagonize with the use of excessive ironic smilies? These are childish tactics not fit for serious discussion. Do you disagree?

[eternal wheel]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-TgFX-UkeM

1:53 in to the vid.
thanks.
i would say that the tanks are there for the same reason as the other pic. maybe they're halfway through fitting the tanks? maybe in that plane the don't need to take all the seats out to perform the tests?
can i prove it's not a chemtrail pic? at the moment, no. can you, or anyone else prove it is?
i will have a dig about and get back to you.

[oioioi]

thanks.
i would say that the tanks are there for the same reason as the other pic. maybe they're halfway through fitting the tanks? maybe in that plane the don't need to take all the seats out to perform the tests?
can i prove it's not a chemtrail pic? at the moment, no. can you, or anyone else prove it is?
i will have a dig about and get back to you.

So they are in the process of removing seats to perform tests on the plane to see how it will behave with seated passengers? That makes little sense to me.

I'm undecided on the chemtrail thing, this pic has me leaning more one way than the other though.

[eternal wheel]

Crosses, grids, and various patterns that look nothing like conventional flight paths.
an expert on flight paths, eh?
have you never seen a cross-roads, (intersection), on a road??
do you not think flight paths can cross (with an altitude gap, obviously)?
maybe you think all the planes are going to the same place??
grids are just multiple wind blown crosses.