Will humanity defeat the new world order?

[gullick]

Not really much else to say.

I'll make this a yes or no poll, think deeply and see which way your mind sways most.

Peace & love :)

[michael christopher]

Humanity cannot "defeat" the New World Order because you cannot destroy something that you are at the same time creating.

[kanz]

I said no , tho I would like to say yes. I just don't see it happening , well not in my life time . People just don't have enough balls to say enough is enough . All over the globe you see the horrible condition that people just accept as normal.

As long as this system continues the way it is we will never get these goons off our back's, as they can use the very paper that they use to keep us down can be used to keep them up.( Body guards etc)

Maybe with a bit of luck when the good old race wars kick off we will all kill each other and deprive them of the fun?:rolleyes:

[hadabusa]

a renaissance in our brains will make it obsolete/less powerfull one day.

theres no other options.

[gullick]

Humanity cannot "defeat" the New World Order because you cannot destroy something that you are at the same time creating.

Well, do you think humanity will reverse the process?

Glad to see positivity, I'm not the most positive but glad to see the energy.

[grenadene]

Humanity is the only thing that could defeat the new world order

Humanity is something to aspire to not a physical condition :)

If you mean will human beans survive..... yeh probably a few, with 3 heads (at least half joking :o)

[armoured_amazon]

Yes.

[mrindigo]

I went with yes, but not for an outright defeat. I'm hopeful that eventually humanity won't have this current fixation of always having to fight and vanquish something. To sum it up, I'm hopeful the ptb come to their senses and realize what they're actually doing. I think they've lost of sight of what their original intent was. Like us, they'll have to make a choice between destruction or a brighter future. I don't like the idea of leaving anyone behind, even them.

[michael christopher]

Well, do you think humanity will reverse the process?

Glad to see positivity, I'm not the most positive but glad to see the energy.

The process is an individual one and can only be reversed on an individual and personal basis - meaning, you must take control of your own reality and decide whether or not this "new world order" that so many people proclaim exists actually has any control over your or effect on your life.

I am no prophet and I cannot say what plans the government will be successful in enacting, however what I can say without a doubt is that I would rather die on my feet than live on my knees and that I am a free, individual human being that will continue to exist as what I am, and no one else in this world is going to tell me the opposite.

So in my reality, the New World Order doesn't have to be defeated, because it poses me no real threat. Some might say this is "burying my head in the sand" but on the contrary, I find that it's more akin to pulling my head out of the dirt and taking a breath of fresh air.

The only person with power over me is myself. This is a principle I will die upholding if necessary, however I highly doubt it will come to such an extreme point.

[gullick]

The process is an individual one and can only be reversed on an individual and personal basis - meaning, you must take control of your own reality and decide whether or not this "new world order" that so many people proclaim exists actually has any control over your or effect on your life.

I am no prophet and I cannot say what plans the government will be successful in enacting, however what I can say without a doubt is that I would rather die on my feet than live on my knees and that I am a free, individual human being that will continue to exist as what I am, and no one else in this world is going to tell me the opposite.

So in my reality, the New World Order doesn't have to be defeated, because it poses me no real threat. Some might say this is "burying my head in the sand" but on the contrary, I find that it's more akin to pulling my head out of the dirt and taking a breath of fresh air.

The only person with power over me is myself. This is a principle I will die upholding if necessary, however I highly doubt it will come to such an extreme point.

I understand your philosophy, however saying that the NWO will have no control over your life sounds somewhat naive. I dare not say you are naive, you seem rather clued up to say the least, but I think you may have led yourself into denial.

You may be able to make your own choices, but you can only make your own choices in the environment and with the resources provided to you.

I completely agree with you on "I would rather die on my feet than live on my knees". I will die before I have a microchip under my skin. I am not the property of the Rothschilds family!

But I will try to avoid the dying part of course. I plan to live in the sewers, breeding with mermaids and crocodiles.

[michael christopher]

I understand your philosophy, however saying that the NWO will have no control over your life sounds somewhat naive. I dare not say you are naive, you seem rather clued up to say the least, but I think you may have led yourself into denial.

You may be able to make your own choices, but you can only make your own choices in the environment and with the resources provided to you.

I completely agree with you on "I would rather die on my feet than live on my knees". I will die before I have a microchip under my skin. I am not the property of the Rothschilds family!

But I will try to avoid the dying part of course. I plan to live in the sewers, breeding with mermaids and crocodiles.

Well, I'm not being naive at all, I said I would die before I would serve, which means the NWO has no power over me. That's really about all I can do. I tell people what I know and spread information, but like I said, I'm never going to be a slave in a camp because I will seriously just do whatever it takes to prevent that from happening, and if I end up in one, then whoever put me there better amp up security because I'm a dangerous person to put around desperate people. I'm not worried about anything and I have already defeated the control mechanisms of the "NWO" in my own life - so all they can do now is effect everyone else. And all I can do is educate everyone else on how not to be effected, which is really the only way to defeat them anyway.

I really don't envision a Mad Max future, however. They're starting to get busted right now and it's going to get a lot worse when pissed off spoiled westerners start demanding heads on sticks. I don't think they want to risk taking it that far because in such a scenario and power play - literally, the enslavement of the entire globe - humanity will certainly overpower them, and quite easily at that. They can try to set off as many nukes as they want, but they're afraid of doing that and they'd rather get away with the crimes they've already put behind them than kill themselves fighting us, which are their only two options at this point.

[gullick]

Well, I'm not being naive at all, I said I would die before I would serve, which means the NWO has no power over me. That's really about all I can do. I tell people what I know and spread information, but like I said, I'm never going to be a slave in a camp because I will seriously just do whatever it takes to prevent that from happening, and if I end up in one, then whoever put me there better amp up security because I'm a dangerous person to put around desperate people. I'm not worried about anything and I have already defeated the control mechanisms of the "NWO" in my own life - so all they can do now is effect everyone else. And all I can do is educate everyone else on how not to be effected, which is really the only way to defeat them anyway.

I really don't envision a Mad Max future, however. They're starting to get busted right now and it's going to get a lot worse when pissed off spoiled westerners start demanding heads on sticks. I don't think they want to risk taking it that far because in such a scenario and power play - literally, the enslavement of the entire globe - humanity will certainly overpower them, and quite easily at that. They can try to set off as many nukes as they want, but they're afraid of doing that and they'd rather get away with the crimes they've already put behind them than kill themselves fighting us, which are their only two options at this point.

I genuinely meant it when I said I don't think you're naive.

Pretty much feel the same as you. I'll be sitting in my cell in the fetal position, shaking back and forth screaming "MY BODY IS CHAINED BUT MY MIND WANDERS FREE... HAHAHA!!!"

Or something to that effect.

[kappy0405]

I used to think we had it in the bag, but I'm not sure anymore..

I made a poll the other day and it seems like the majority of people are content with just continuing to do what we've been doing to stop them. It's not cutting it imo.. Things are coming to a fruition really fast now and we still have A LOT of people to wake up.

Without organization and full dedication by almost all of us, I don't think we can do it.

[michael christopher]

I genuinely meant it when I said I don't think you're naive.

Pretty much feel the same as you. I'll be sitting in my cell in the fetal position, shaking back and forth screaming "MY BODY IS CHAINED BUT MY MIND WANDERS FREE... HAHAHA!!!"

Or something to that effect.

I really don't like to think about what I'd do in a complete fascist takeover because it's so completely negative, but I have certainly thought about it and prepared a mode of action in the event that it actually does happen. I mean, you know in Saw where they tell the guy to chop off his foot or stay chained to the wall?

Yeah, I'd be saying bye to my foot if I was in a situation like that.

If my reality is shaken up and the government starts to come after me to force injections into my body or worse, to take me to a camp because I refuse to obey the new 'laws'... well, all I can do is defend myself right?

And I have friends in higher places than anyone in the Illuminati does. :D

[relentless]

think deeply and see which way your mind sways most.

Peace & love :)


What do you mean "Humanity defeat NWO"?
Is this another invented war?
Do you need to take sides? and if so what side are you on?
Can you point to a collective humanity? Can you point to the NWO and say there they are go get em?

[kappy0405]

What do you mean "Humanity defeat NWO"?
Is this another invented war?
Do you need to take sides? and if so what side are you on?
Can you point to a collective humanity? Can you point to the NWO and say there they are go get em?

well, I certainly hope you're not on the Illuminatis side. You can't really point to the Illuminati and go after them, but we know what their resources are..

If we're talking physical, they've got the military, police, etc.. In the case that we're being sent off to fema camps, we'll know who to go after: take out their resources and we take them out.

As for their other resources, there's the banks, the governments, major corporations, etc.. We can take them out by boycotting all their resources that way.

We don't have to identify the Illuminati to know where their control comes from and how to stop them. ;)

[gullick]

What do you mean "Humanity defeat NWO"?
Is this another invented war?
Do you need to take sides? and if so what side are you on?
Can you point to a collective humanity? Can you point to the NWO and say there they are go get em?

You need to relax and not think so deeply into what I'm saying. Are you this socially intense in person?? :P

The NWO, meaning tyranny in general I suppose, or maybe I just meant the current conspirators (who I believe to be the Rothschilds at the top of the pyramid on THIS frequency anyway).

I'm not so sure now. The question wasn't really meant to be complex or thought over so strongly. :o

[motleyhoo]

I voted 'No' because the NWO is caused by people who have greed for control/power/money, and you cannot stop those kinds of people from being born and rising to power. Normal people who are not like that do not have the mentality or demeanor to compete with the NWO assholes, because to compete with them would mean lying, cheating, stealing, backstabbing, and killing to get to the top, and we are simply not built to operate in that way. That's why NWO assholes have always taken over and always will. Not anywhere in human history is there a single example of NWO assholes not taking over and not detroying their civilaizations to satiate their greed-mongering whims.

If everyone in the world suddenly woke up and "kicked the bums out", a new batch of bastards would come along to fill the void. That's just the nature of human beings. It's Psychology 101.

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[yozhik]

No.

1. Because I DESPERATELY want to be wrong on this issue.
2. Because it is an ever evolving creature and will always be one step ahead; whilst it may be wounded, or slowed down, or diverted ... it will always exist in one form or another.

[kappy0405]

I think if the global awareness shoots way up, it would be enough to prevent such people from taking over again. The problem in the past was that people weren't aware of the system. Thanks to the technotronic era we're in, the information has spread massively and well.. here we are.

Granted, the a*$holes will always be there, but even that could become moot if the global awareness turns into a spiritual revolution as some are predicting.

[brucel]

satanists will put-up a good fight, but, good will prevail over evil.

[diaphos]

No

Because we are so diverse in our opinions and understanding, most of us can’t even agree on the basics never mind all the stuff that’s out there on the fringe, reptilians, aliens and stuff, it would be great and maybe even give us a chance if we could focus on the stuff we know is true and can prove

I am not saying that people who are advocates of the stuff on the fringe are incorrect I don’t know enough about the fringe element of this movement to comment except most of it appears to be supposition with very little substantial hard facts if any

It’s a shame really because we could be very strong if we could unite, we all know something’s wrong with the world, how the hell do we wake the general population up, when we cant really find good common ground to agree a stratergy amongst ourselves.

[motleyhoo]

I think if the global awareness shoots way up, it would be enough to prevent such people from taking over again. The problem in the past was that people weren't aware of the system. Thanks to the technotronic era we're in, the information has spread massively and well.. here we are.

Granted, the a*$holes will always be there, but even that could become moot if the global awareness turns into a spiritual revolution as some are predicting.

It is not enough to be aware. You then have to compete against them for the decision-making, legislative, and CEO positions in your society, and you have to win to keep them out of those positions. Pacifist, moral, and ethical people do not stand a chance in this situation against people who would trade their own grandmothers for another dollar.

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[relentless]

As for their other resources, there's the banks, the governments, major corporations, etc.. We can take them out by boycotting all their resources that way.

We don't have to identify the Illuminati to know where their control comes from and how to stop them. ;)


Well done kappy, yet you forgot the most important resource, humanity.

[nayan]

I'm not sure to be honest.

If yes, then it will sure take a long time. NWO has created money, religion, cultures and so on, at this time, without money we cannot survive even though i hate money so much. Work, we are all slaves because we all work. When people say we shouldn't be working for the NWO, but then where are we going to get our food from? whos going to be working in the supermarkets? people will be grabbing the food from the shelves and fighting for it, it would be pandemonium.

We may wake up sometime on a rising sun morning without going to work and people may finally share, work together and unite. People may still believe in a religion, others won't. People will believe that they still have a nationality, others won't. You see, it is possible, but its just the matter of time to take. But i'll always know that the NWO will always leave something, its something they have influenced into us that may never change, i don't know but its something.

[drooh]

I vote no.

The New World Order is social darwinism and objectivist capitalism in practice.

The successful rise to the top to govern, accumulate status, differentiate themselves from those with less status, less material positions, less power.

I think humanity by it's fundamental nature is hierarchy based and we're greed driven whether we like to admit it or not. We impose a tribal structure upon ourselves to further our chances of survival, by electing some one to over see us, delegate tasks, place us into groups.

Dependent on the scale of operations, some hierarchies remain fixed even when fragmenting or centralising in a constant fashion, same with smaller hierarchies but they are subject to having people in various positions changed around more frequently.

Because we largely don't want to think for ourselves or are happy with where we get placed on the ladder. That said, there will always be people above you, with more money, more power, or someone vying for a larger piece of the pie.

Get rid of it and something will establish itself again and again. Submission is within human nature as much as the need for liberation from self imposed shackles. I believe humans engineered the NWO that said, not Reptillian bloodlines.

So 'No' as I think our own species is to blame for creating, nurturing the individuals who seized upon the opportunities to seize control and enlarge the hierarchy.

[mariantisocial]

No

Because we are so diverse in our opinions and understanding, most of us can’t even agree on the basics never mind all the stuff that’s out there on the fringe, reptilians, aliens and stuff, it would be great and maybe even give us a chance if we could focus on the stuff we know is true and can prove

I am not saying that people who are advocates of the stuff on the fringe are incorrect I don’t know enough about the fringe element of this movement to comment except most of it appears to be supposition with very little substantial hard facts if any

It’s a shame really because we could be very strong if we could unite, we all know something’s wrong with the world, how the hell do we wake the general population up, when we cant really find good common ground to agree a stratergy amongst ourselves.

i didn't answer becuase i honestly don't know. i agree with this here quote, our egos always seem to keep us divided and in pursuit od oneupmanship, i find it very difficult to imagine what a brotherhood of man would look like, or how a new system built on the remains of an old one could wind up in the end being any different, i also cannot imagine a fair and just system that is beneficial to everyone and fails no one and that isn't inherantly inclined towrds corruption. it is why i believe while ever humanity runs on its false ego the NWO can never be defeated, much of their manipulation seems targetted at reinforcing our egos. as ben stuart has said in kymatica "the NWO is an outward manifestation of our own disowned shadows. for me it is time to accept the darkness within me and thus transcend it. I am a being of both dark and light.

i hold out hope however that a revolution in consciousness and new ways of percieving the world might save the day in the end, as has been said i can really only fight the battle that rages within me, try to purify my spirit from the wickedness and self serving attitude that has been pumped into it, try to know thyself - good, bad and ugly; when i can tolerate those aspects of myself i find abhorant in others i find i can more easily tolerate others. i cannot love myself truely if there are parts of me i cannot accept thus must repress knowledge of, if i cannot love myself i cannot love others and any harmony that comes from this place is a lie, a facade - just like the NWO we see right now it is two faced.

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[nayan]

I vote no.

The New World Order is social darwinism and objectivist capitalism in practice.

The successful rise to the top to govern, accumulate status, differentiate themselves from those with less status, less material positions, less power.

I think humanity by it's fundamental nature is hierarchy based and we're greed driven whether we like to admit it or not. We impose a tribal structure upon ourselves to further our chances of survival, by electing some one to over see us, delegate tasks, place us into groups.

Dependent on the scale of operations, some hierarchies remain fixed even when fragmenting or centralising in a constant fashion, same with smaller hierarchies but they are subject to having people in various positions changed around more frequently.

Because we largely don't want to think for ourselves or are happy with where we get placed on the ladder. That said, there will always be people above you, with more money, more power, or someone vying for a larger piece of the pie.

Get rid of it and something will establish itself again and again. Submission is within human nature as much as the need for liberation from self imposed shackles. I believe humans engineered the NWO that said, not Reptillian bloodlines.

So 'No' as I think our own species is to blame for creating, nurturing the individuals who seized upon the opportunities to seize control and enlarge the hierarchy.

I agree, we CAN defeat the NWO but they has left alot of things which would stop us from being equal.

[pduffy4]

Yes.:)
They'll get slapped shitless.

[grenadene]

Yes.:)
They'll get slapped shitless.

That's the spirit :)

[nayan]

Yes.:)
They'll get slapped shitless.

:D

[mightiswrong]

There can be no doubt. All that one needs is an auto abundant garden and we have won. Simple really.

[avaruus]

yes.