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onlycrazy
17-08-2009, 07:41 PM
Should 3-Year-Olds Take Antidepressants?

By Martha Rosenberg Aug 17, 2009

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Try to access the Web site of the Archives of General Psychiatry, and you may have to abide an ad for the antidepressant Pristiq before you can enter. (JAMA and its Archives Journals “do not endorse the advertised product,” you’ll be assured.)

But look for a pharma affiliation for the author of the article “Preschool Depression,” Joan L. Luby, M.D., in the August issue, and you’ll be told no “financial disclosure” was reported. Not that “Dr. Luby has received grant/research support from Janssen, has given occasional talks sponsored by AstraZeneca, and has served as a consultant for Shire Pharmaceutical,” as a 2006 article in Journal of the American Academy of Child and Adolescent Psychiatry says.

Even though the pharmaceutical industry has 27 million Americans—10 percent of the population—on antidepressants, thanks to direct to consumer advertising, it is looking for depression in preschoolers. And guess what? It’s finding it!

It’s easy to make jokes about “preschool depression”—students get it every time the alarm rings—but finding depression, “relapses,” “chronicity,” and “treatment resistance” in 3-year-olds is not funny.

Researchers used to believe that “young children were too cognitively and emotionally immature to experience depressive effects,” says Luby, but now believe they can and do suffer from Major Depressive Disorder (MDD).

“The potential public health importance of identification of preschool MDD is underscored by the established unique efficacy of early intervention during the preschool period in other childhood disorders. Based in part on the recurrent course and the relative treatment resistance of childhood MDD, there has been increased interest in the identification of the disorder at the earliest possible stage of development,” says Luby.

Translation: They want to screen your kid.

The case for a new social problem to be called “preschool depression” is so strong that there was only one real wrinkle in Ludy’s longitudinal study of 304 preschoolers, funded by our tax dollars at the National Institute of Mental Health.

Instead of having “anxiety disorders,” usually associated other MDD sufferers, the 3- and 4-year-olds had “disruptive disorders.” Possibly Play-Doh problems.

Undaunted, Luby says the preschoolers need to be screened for impending mental illness because their disruptive behavior “might be associated with social impairment and peer rejection that lead to later MDD.”

Of course, cynics will point out that drinking milk also predicts MDD and that disruptive behavior is the definition of a preschooler, making terms like preschool “social impairment and peer rejection” laughable academic babble.

But of more concern is what exactly is the “treatment” and “intervention” for the at-risk preschooler who might develop depression? And why the hurry?

Is it treatment with Janssen and AstraZeneca antipsychotic drugs, in which case MDD is really a Risperdal or Seroquel deficiency? Is it like Rebecca Riley, given Seroquel at 2 and dead at 4? And the late Destiny Hager who was given Seroquel at 3?

Is the “intervention” like the two children the Miami Herald says Mirko and Regina Ceska of Crawfordville, Fla., adopted from state foster care who were so doped up on antipsychotics the couple asked Gov. Charlie Crist if “chemical restraints” were “prerequisites” in foster care?

Crist’s head of the Department of Children and Families, George Sheldon, subsequently asked them to testify at the investigation into the death of foster-care 7-year-old Gabriel Myers earlier this year, on similar drugs.

It is not a coincidence that 3,100 or 15.5 percent of the Florida’s 20,000 children in state care are on psychoactive drugs, legally prescribed or not, a figure that likely applies to other states.

Do you think private plans will pay $900 a month per patient for a branded blockbuster drug that may not even be necessary?

No wonder pharma sits in so many “advisory positions” on state formularies, tampering with drug decision algorithms.

In fact, Texas charged Janssen in December with defrauding the state of millions “with their sophisticated and fraudulent marketing scheme” to “secure a spot for the drug Risperdal on the state’s Medicaid preferred drug list and on controversial medical protocols that determine which drugs are given to adults and children in state custody.”

In addition to giving trips, perks, and kickbacks to Texas’s mental health officials, says the Dallas News, Janssen disguised marketing tools as scientific research, “including ‘independent’ articles that were nothing of the kind.”

Imagine that.
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UNBELIEVABLE!!! :(

ronisron
17-08-2009, 07:54 PM
No. My son has a friend who has just turned 14. He has some lapses of attention, is fidgety, and has a slight facial tic. His mom had seen something on FEAR TV about Tourette's, took him to a Dr, and it's been decided! The boy has Tourette's! They will try him on medication X after a few more tests, medication X has side effects like fatigue, dry mouth, etc.

Pathetic. I don't have much contact with the boy's parents (they run in different circles..) but when I do, I'm going to say, "Your son does not have Tourette's. the medication they will prescribe him will alter him for life.." I'm not too concerned with diplomacy these days...:mad:

drhemp
17-08-2009, 07:59 PM
Should 3-Year-Olds Take Antidepressants?


No. I can't even believe anyone is asking the question.

Any doctor that even asks such a thing should be struck off.

darkman
17-08-2009, 08:03 PM
this im afraid is how the sheep penned parents are now to scared to let kids out to play and experience life and school to afraid to let kids be competative cos it might inflict emotion and umbalance them so now kids a 3 are deppresed ... wtf about ? or is it cos they aint got what other kids have tv . game station and such or for girls not model enough so will get called ugly or dont have enought make up or even the right short skirt or bikin tops ....AT THE AGE OF 3
this is the media dog again playing parents down making them think there kids have a label instead of letting them be free creative little souls an playing like 3yr olds .....!!!!!!!!

yozhik
17-08-2009, 08:18 PM
No.

godspeed
17-08-2009, 08:24 PM
absolutely no..........:eek:

onlycrazy
17-08-2009, 08:24 PM
To say the very least this is worrying, your right darkman its to make the parents even more cornered than they already are for fear of criticism by the state....paranoia seems to be played out globally as far as our children are concerned.

The outcome for these children of course is not good as they will be ill equipt for the real world when it comes the time to venture forth, this may be their plan of course, but if the pharmas can get in there early, they will have ready made drones who cannot think critically and will obey their masters without question. That way the Big pharma companies will be fulfilling the elites agenda and filling their own scummy
pockets .....

hadabusa
17-08-2009, 08:25 PM
No.
this




actually, nobody should take them.imo.

kweli
17-08-2009, 08:31 PM
No. I can't even believe anyone is asking the question.

Any doctor that even asks such a thing should be struck off.

Ditto!

breezinreezin
17-08-2009, 08:51 PM
Doctors routinely reach for the pen to prescribe SSRI's when old folk find the prospect of their demise a little hard to take, so it surprised me not one jot that some of them will prescribe antidepressants for brighten junior's long face.

gods sun
17-08-2009, 08:58 PM
cbd for me or hemp oil id be happy to give 3 year old but not anti depressant flouride compounds specailly made to numb your emotions and turn you into a dead stone.

lizzy
17-08-2009, 09:02 PM
NO and they'll be going psyhco at 5.......

fallensoul
17-08-2009, 09:07 PM
Wow absolutely disgusting idea.. little depression if not too severe builds character when overcome by internal strength, this is the agenda of making the next generation dependant on the big pharma, governmenet and everything else, so they are easy to lead and they have no real strength to fight back.

Mark my words, this shit will end soon enough.

white rabbit
17-08-2009, 09:33 PM
MK Ultra? ...

kweli
17-08-2009, 10:51 PM
Drugged from cradle to grave, how very sad.

krakhead
17-08-2009, 10:54 PM
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delamo1999
17-08-2009, 11:02 PM
No. My son has a friend who has just turned 14. He has some lapses of attention, is fidgety, and has a slight facial tic. His mom had seen something on FEAR TV about Tourette's, took him to a Dr, and it's been decided! The boy has Tourette's! They will try him on medication X after a few more tests, medication X has side effects like fatigue, dry mouth, etc.

Pathetic. I don't have much contact with the boy's parents (they run in different circles..) but when I do, I'm going to say, "Your son does not have Tourette's. the medication they will prescribe him will alter him for life.." I'm not too concerned with diplomacy these days...:mad:


Good for you. I support your decision to stand up to your friend and tell her the truth even if it means that your friendship with her is sacrificed. It is well time that we all start standing up and telling the truth even if those we are telling it to cannot handle it. The alternative for them is to continue living a life in a blind lie that on the surface feels real to them, but will always have a knawing feeling deep inside that what is being presented on the surface is not their true truth.

motleyhoo
18-08-2009, 05:07 AM
This is the type of question that shouldn't need to be asked, and the fact that so many people ask it is a sign of how braindead our society is.

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talkshowsonmute
18-08-2009, 06:23 AM
hell no

hobo
18-08-2009, 08:47 AM
How repulsive! It´s just a part of "their" efforts to morbidify all of us, so they have an excuse to put everybody on medication...from cradle to grave indeed...

avaruus
18-08-2009, 08:54 AM
NO!!

parents could try not ignoring their kids. oh how it hurts to see small toddlers in the playground, eager to start play while mom or dad is bizzy with a fucking cellphone stuck to the ear.
and the kid whaits and whaits and whaits. and gives up. and become sad.

just an observation i made.

cellphones kills the spirit.

anahata
18-08-2009, 11:29 AM
I don't think doctors are really helping us anymore, seems to me they just dish out pills to remove symptoms.

dmt head
18-08-2009, 11:49 AM
Obviously no. Dr's offered me one of the heavyt duty anti-depressants recently when I wanted to get a sick line. My girlfriend said she was on them years ago and their quite heavy duty, their called citralapram (sp) They made her feel suicidal. I was in the drs less than five minutes and thats what he was wanting to give me, unbeleivable. I said id take something else and told him my views on them and he gave me beta-blockers, which I didnt take.

My dad said the same, when my grandfather died he went to the dr's and said he wanted a sick line, my dad told him no I dont want your anti-depressants and the drs reaction was well what are you doing here? If you dont take my drugs then I cant help! he eventually gave my dad the sick line.

Thing is most people would go in and and they would take these things trusting the nice doctor, its insane, the ignorance of people especially!

bornfree
18-08-2009, 11:59 AM
My son had issues when he started school. He would sometimes rock back & forth, wasnt focusing for sustained periods and was been bullied by a huge lad & a couple of cronies. He was & still is incredibly good at maths and not a great communicator in the social skills dept. Some of the indicators of mild autism or add/hd.

It took 2 years of plenty of encouragement, conversation & communication, omega 3, removal of as many additives from his diet as possible & lashings of love.

He is now adept at social skills, loves team sports. He has alot of friends now. His concentration levels are great although he still gets bored because the work is sometimes to easy so the school are pushing him now. The bullying issues are resolved. He still sometimes rocks back & forth but that was also to do with the fact he's always loved music & its actually the way he dances! When he gets bored he starts playing a song in his head, hence the rocking.

No pharmaceuticals required.

Just patience, forethought, diet planning & of course the easiest, unconditional love.

truth finder
18-08-2009, 12:25 PM
hell no... i didn't bother reading all the post 3 years old...no child should be pumped with chemicals...it remindes me of the adhd they are nothing but spoilt shits....:confused::eek::mad:

daniel1987
18-08-2009, 01:12 PM
"Should 3-year-olds be given Antidepressants?"

No. I'm no expert, but I'm sure there are crucial developments taking place in the brain at this age, and anti-depressants could interfere with these crucial developments by altering brain chemistry. Plus, there are so many nasty side effects, and it would be awful for a three-year-old to suffer from these.

djhooker
18-08-2009, 03:04 PM
why would a 3 year old have any reason to be depressed? wtf is the world coming to?!?

white_wave
18-08-2009, 03:07 PM
fricken ridiculous