Love believes all things

[tannah]

What does "love believes all things" mean? Does it mean all things are love, and that illusion isn't a "thing" in itself, but has no reality? Could it mean that all things eventually find their way to truth? Here it is in context.



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1 If I speak in human and angelic tongues but do not have love, I am a resounding gong or a clashing cymbal.
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And if I have the gift of prophecy and comprehend all mysteries and all knowledge; if I have all faith so as to move mountains but do not have love, I am nothing.
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If I give away everything I own, and if I hand my body over so that I may boast but do not have love, I gain nothing.
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Love is patient, love is kind. It is not jealous, (love) is not pompous, it is not inflated,
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it is not rude, it does not seek its own interests, it is not quick-tempered, it does not brood over injury,
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it does not rejoice over wrongdoing but rejoices with the truth.
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It bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things.
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4 Love never fails. If there are prophecies, they will be brought to nothing; if tongues, they will cease; if knowledge, it will be brought to nothing.
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For we know partially and we prophesy partially,
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but when the perfect comes, the partial will pass away.
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When I was a child, I used to talk as a child, think as a child, reason as a child; when I became a man, I put aside childish things.
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At present we see indistinctly, as in a mirror, but then face to face. At present I know partially; then I shall know fully, as I am fully known.
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5 So faith, hope, love remain, these three; but the greatest of these is love.

http://www.usccb.org/nab/bible/1corinthians/1corinthians13.htm

[miracles]

What does "love believes all things" mean? Does it mean all things are love, and that illusion isn't a "thing" in itself, but has no reality? Could it mean that all things eventually find their way to truth? Here it is in context.


I think it means love believes all things that are truthful because of the context of the passage you have put.

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it does not rejoice over wrongdoing but rejoices with the truth.


It can not mean "All things" are love, IMO off course not. Because wrong doing and lies can not be love.

But its a great passage to discuss in a thread, so lets try to discuss it in love.

God bless you.

[torus]

To me it represents the trust of a child who "believes" all things.

[tannah]

I think it means love believes all things that are truthful because of the context of the passage you have put.

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it does not rejoice over wrongdoing but rejoices with the truth.


It can not mean "All things" are love, IMO off course not. Because wrong doing and lies can not be love.

But its a great passage to discuss in a thread, so lets try to discuss it in love.

God bless you.

It's how I qualified it with "Does it mean all things are love, and that illusion isn't a thing in itself"

It says, the Word creates all things. Nothing was created not of the Word. Illusion comes into the world as a phantom, a failure to reach out perfectly. It doesn't exist in God's eyes. It only exists in that "apple "moment(metaphorically speaking), the one we ate.

So God didn't create lies, doesn't hear lies. Yet everyone is a "thing", and you can hate sin by not hating the sinner. Everyone being on their own path, being their own truth, even if there are specs of illusion there, are God's "property", not for us to judge. We do not see the whole picture. That's why God is the best to judge. We're at our best when we don't judge. We don't know enough about others to cast the judgment. We ar enot them, and "specs" are not as blind as "logs in one's eye"

But can anyone really live a life without judging? We'd be perfect then, so there's be no need for perfection to come.

PS..in fact, come this "judgement day", God is going to show us all what judgment is all about. And it may surpise many who have been using it to pollute this world with crazy decisions and opinions of others. I am expecting a judgement day that puts our own wonky way of judging to shame, with helpers showing us how to actually take care of this planet, abundance for all, and a system that is built on love not money and power.

That's another reason I know the bible is just another book written by humans, because humans can only think of a judgment day as the fruition of their own sordid judgments on things. With a day being a thousand years to God, there's your judgement day and time of great spiritual growth all in one.

[miracles]

It's how I qualified it with "Does it mean all things are love, and that illusion isn't a thing in itself"

It says, the Word creates all things. Nothing was created not of the Word. Illusion comes into the world as a phantom, a failure to reach out perfectly. It doesn't exist in God's eyes. It only exists in that "apple "moment(metaphorically speaking), the one we ate.

So God didn't create lies, doesn't hear lies. Yet everyone is a "thing", and you can hate sin by not hating the sinner. Everyone being on their own path, being their own truth, even if there are specs of illusion there, are God's "property", not for us to judge. We do not see the whole picture. That's why God is the best to judge. We're at our best when we don't judge. We don't know enough about others to cast the judgment. We ar enot them, and "specs" are not as blind as "logs in one's eye"

But can anyone really live a life without judging? We'd be perfect then, so there's be no need for perfection to come.

Oh but we do see the whole picture:

but when the perfect comes, the partial will pass away.

What do think "When the perfect comes means?"

It means the completed word of God, which is why we no longer need prohecies etc, because we have the full picture.

Love miracles.

[Ian2day]

The greatest thing your ever learn is just to love and be loved in return.

[tannah]

Oh but we do see the whole picture:

but when the perfect comes, the partial will pass away.

What do think "When the perfect comes means?"

It means the completed word of God, which is why we no longer need prohecies etc, because we have the full picture.

Love miracles.

You see the full picture do you? Check it again:


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For we know partially and we prophesy partially,
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but when the perfect comes, the partial will pass away.
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When I was a child, I used to talk as a child, think as a child, reason as a child; when I became a man, I put aside childish things.
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At present we see indistinctly, as in a mirror, but then face to face. At present I know partially; then I shall know fully, as I am fully known.

I'll leave judgment to that which knows me fully.

The greatest thing your ever learn is just to love and be loved in return.

Isn't that the line in a George Benson song "Nature boy"? Love that song. Been years since I heard it.

[miracles]

You see the full picture do you? Check it again:



I'll leave judgment to that which knows me fully.



Isn't that the line in a George Benson song "Nature boy"? Love that song. Been years since I heard it.

Now your adding to the OP George Benson songs. Oh well its your thread.

That which is perfect has come. :)

[miracles]

The greatest thing your ever learn is just to love and be loved in return.
Amen

[tannah]

Now your adding to the OP George Benson songs. Oh well its your thread.

That which is perfect has come. :)

I was answering someone else's comment at the same time. Hope that's cool with you. And please treat it as much as your thread as it is mine. In fact, more if you like.:D

Shame Paul missed it then eh?

[miracles]

I was answering someone else's comment at the same time. Hope that's cool with you. And please treat it as much as your thread as it is mine. In fact, more if you like.:D

Shame Paul missed it then eh?

Oops my bad. Sorry.