Strongbow and aspartame

[antinwo]

I have been trying to avoid aspartame since I found out the dangers of it in 2006, however I am a big cider drinker and have recently noticed that Strongbow dry cider contains an artificial sweetner. I contacted the company about this by email to which they replied "We don't know" WTF. My worst fears have arisen that this artificial sweetner is aspartame:eek: Does anyone no for sure that Strongbow Cider contains aspartame.:confused:

[michael christopher]

If it's not aspartame, it's sucralose. Sucralose is the by-product of the creation of pesticides. It's really sweet and only impacts your body's immune system instead of killing you outright, so they put it in soft drinks.

Artificial sweeteners are bad.

[avaruus]

if it tastes strange its acesulfame K
if it tastes far to sweet its sukralos

[rodin]

Aspartame is absolutely everywhere. It's unbelievable.

Donald Rumsfeldt was well rewarded for his betrayal of the human race

[kodiak]

Aspartame is now in Wrigley's gum, even the versions that contain real sugar. It's also in the sugared version of Lilt and dear knows what else.

[dmt head]

I have been trying to avoid aspartame since I found out the dangers of it in 2006, however I am a big cider drinker and have recently noticed that Strongbow dry cider contains an artificial sweetner. I contacted the company about this by email to which they replied "We don't know" WTF. My worst fears have arisen that this artificial sweetner is aspartame:eek: Does anyone no for sure that Strongbow Cider contains aspartame.:confused:

That is so strange, big coincidence. Ive been drinking this every so often because my girlfriend likes it, sure it was two days ago I looked at a can of it and it said sweeteners. I know by the taste it isnt aspartame, but it is very sweet so maybe as avarrus said its sucralose, probably. I was planning looking into that very thing this week! :cool:

Funny they say they dont know :rolleyes:

[wobbler]

Time to get acquainted with scrumpy jack :D

[dude111]

Aspartame is absolutely everywhere. It's unbelievable.Yes its quite disturbing they dont care what this is doing to people!!

[dmt head]

My girlfriend has an open bottle and I just tried some. Usually I can detect aspartame straight away. Maybe because its alcohol its harder to detect but im doubting myself now, bit ridiculous that they dont know whats in it, do you have their email handy and ill mail them myself?

[avaruus]

the worst thing is that its in medicine.

i was put on calcium pills and got weaker and weaker by the day.
it was both aspartame and acesulfam K in them.

now i dont eat or drink anything without checking.

[dmt head]

the worst thing is that its in medicine.

i was put on calcium pills and got weaker and weaker by the day.
it was both aspartame and acesulfam K in them.

now i dont eat or drink anything without checking.

Ive seen that, on lemsips a cold remedy, they taste horrible now, its a disgrace.

[avaruus]

Ive seen that, on lemsips a cold remedy, they taste horrible now, its a disgrace.

aspartame is also used in some migraine pills , of its usefullnes to break the blood brain barriere. so the chemicals can travel directly to the brain.

[dude111]

My mother has had CARPTEL TUNNEL syndrome for awhile now and im wondering if this crap is the reason!! (She drinks alot of things with aspertame in them)

I just thought of that earlier when i first viewed this thread and went searching and found this disturbing page

http://www.wnho.net/fdaapprovedepidemic.htm

I dunno if my mother will listen to me or not (We dont get along very well :() Im just trying to help her...... (My parents call me names,etc cause im trying to help them)

[lizzy]

Ive seen that, on lemsips a cold remedy, they taste horrible now, its a disgrace.

have noticed that too .....

aspartame is also used in some migraine pills , of its usefullnes to break the blood brain barriere. so the chemicals can travel directly to the brain.

....yup,
the evil does'nt stop.

[antinwo]

Thing is how can you tell it is aspartame cos the strong taste of cider just takes over everything:D

[decided]

http://www.rense.com/general2/braint.htm

'Aspartame (NutraSweet)
Causes Brain Tumors...
Beyond A Shadow Of A Doubt'


http://tuberose.com/Aspartame.html

If it says "Sugar Free" on the label--do not even think about eating it!!!! If you are using Aspartame (Nutra-Sweet, Equal) and you suffer from fibromyalgia symptoms, spasms, shooting pains, numbness in your legs, cramps, vertigo, dizziness, headaches, tinnitus, joint pain, depression, anxiety attacks, slurred speech, blurred vision, or memory loss--you probably have Aspartame Disease! There are 92 documented symptoms of Aspartame, from coma to death. The majority of them are all neurological, because Aspartame destroys the nervous system. There is absolutely no reason to take this product. The Congressional Record said, "It makes you crave carbohydrates and will make you FAT." The formaldehyde stores in the fat cells, particularly in the hips and thighs. There are now over 5,000 products containing this chemical--it is now available in 90 plus countries worldwide--and the patent has expired!!!

[jason sands]

I have been trying to avoid aspartame since I found out the dangers of it in 2006, however I am a big cider drinker and have recently noticed that Strongbow dry cider contains an artificial sweetner. I contacted the company about this by email to which they replied "We don't know" WTF. My worst fears have arisen that this artificial sweetner is aspartame:eek: Does anyone no for sure that Strongbow Cider contains aspartame.:confused:
If they don't know what's in it I wouldn't drink it

Drink 100% juice cider

[dmt head]

If they don't know what's in it I wouldn't drink it

Drink 100% juice cider

Any suggestions? :) Its my girlfriend who likes it but I have found myself drinking it recently. Can be a nice change from lager.

I just mailed them asking for the ingredients, ill post what they say here!

[kurupted_flesh]

Strongbow is nasty-ass shit.

You can get large bottles of pure apple/pear cider for fuck all if you look properly.

Though why you'd want to drink that shit at all is beyond me.

[dmt head]

Strongbow is nasty-ass shit.

You can get large bottles of pure apple/pear cider for fuck all if you look properly.

Though why you'd want to drink that shit at all is beyond me.

Again any suggestions, are you a cider nazi or something? Not like its white cider at 8%. Usually get a load of self rightous beer nazis on here, never seen a cider nazi before! :p:D

In saying that im a bit of nazi when it comes to that evil white cider so.... lol

[avaruus]

cider nazi this cracked me up LOL

[grenadene]

I love cider.....mmmm!! but I'm pretty sure Strongbow is the cider equivalent of 'Coke'...I'd love to be proved wrong because I really quite like it...:)

On the upside my home brewed rhubarb wine should be ready by the mid-winter festivities :D

[entrangermercenary]

Again any suggestions, are you a cider nazi or something? Not like its white cider at 8%. Usually get a load of self rightous beer nazis on here, never seen a cider nazi before! :p:D

In saying that im a bit of nazi when it comes to that evil white cider so.... lol

FFS don't tell me you are going to knock white lightening :D

[dmt head]

FFS don't tell me you are going to knock white lightening :D

Aye man that shits evil guy down the stairs from me is fucked off that shit, bad scene man LOL They have loads of these types of ciders really cheap. Its mass marketed hard drugs that only the true addicts drink, its a disgrace.

[kurupted_flesh]

Again any suggestions, are you a cider nazi or something? Not like its white cider at 8%. Usually get a load of self rightous beer nazis on here, never seen a cider nazi before! :p:D

In saying that im a bit of nazi when it comes to that evil white cider so.... lol

http://groceries.asda.com/asda-estore/catalog/sectionpagecontainer.jsp?departmentid=121492192374 7 (Larger/bitter/cider > cider) - All sorts of shit for you to choose from, all relatively cheap too, as you'd expect from cider.

I used to drink the "Merrydown" (Vintage) shit on the 2nd page. Did the trick I suppose.

You can tell which ones are decent quality. Best shit's gonna be from a farm though.

Shit.

[peace sells]

http://groceries.asda.com/asda-estore/catalog/sectionpagecontainer.jsp?departmentid=121492192374 7 (Larger/bitter/cider > cider) - All sorts of shit for you to choose from, all relatively cheap too, as you'd expect from cider.

I used to drink the "Merrydown" (Vintage) shit on the 2nd page. Did the trick I suppose.

You can tell which ones are decent quality. Best shit's gonna be from a farm though.

Shit.


Lol, my brother used to drink Merrydown or White lightning or S***e lightning as he now calls it.
:)

[entrangermercenary]

Aye man that shits evil guy down the stairs from me is fucked off that shit, bad scene man LOL They have loads of these types of ciders really cheap. Its mass marketed hard drugs that only the true addicts drink, its a disgrace.

Addict :eek: ffs only a bottle every 2 days :) My god u ever tried snorting it :D its gggrrrrrrrrrrreeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaattttttttttttt :)

[kurupted_flesh]

Lol, my brother used to drink Merrydown or White lightning or S***e lightning as he now calls it.
:)

If I caught my younger brother drinking White Lightning I'd smack the shit out of him and hand him a bottle of Whiskey.

[dmt head]

Addict :eek: ffs only a bottle every 2 days :) My god u ever tried snorting it :D its gggrrrrrrrrrrreeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaattttttttttttt :)

:D

Ive just got a negative opinion because all the alkies drink it, there are a lot worse brands out there. Like one called frosty jack is drank by all the alkies but some people drink that at the weekends etc. I drank it one time on mdma and it was lovely, I was shocked but then tried it straight and it seemed quite nasty, like most of the white strong ciders just seeem shady and minging.

[peace sells]

If I caught my younger brother drinking White Lightning I'd smack the shit out of him and hand him a bottle of Whiskey.

Its got to be Jack Daniels ;)

[hawk]

You really wanna get fucked up? Drink Ny-quil! No shit, I knew an old lady who used to drink it all the time.She would get drunk off it,too. :D:p;)

[dmt head]

You really wanna get fucked up? Drink Ny-quil! No shit, I knew an old lady who used to drink it all the time.She would get drunk off it,too. :D:p;)

Ill stick with my wine and beer thank you! :D

They look crap! :p

[dude111]

http://tuberose.com/Aspartame.htmlVERY GOOD PAGE ALONG WITH THE LINK I POSTED!! (http://www.wnho.net/fdaapprovedepidemic.htm)

THANK YOU!!!!!

[kurupted_flesh]

Its got to be Jack Daniels ;)

Preferably - though I often stoop to Bell's when I'm on a budget.

Either that or it's my old friend Captain Mo'.

[michael christopher]

You really wanna get fucked up? Drink Ny-quil! No shit, I knew an old lady who used to drink it all the time.She would get drunk off it,too. :D:p;)

I've done that once. I remember staring at two lampshades near each other and thinking they were aliens kissing. I can't remember a lot of what happened, but my friend told me that I was rambling on about sacrificing a dog to summon a demon like it was something that actually happened to me.

Considering this is highly unlike me, I wonder why the hell I was talking about it. I certainly have no memories of anything that could be considered even remotely similar to that...

[avaruus]

Ill stick with my wine and beer thank you! :D

They look crap! :p

mmmm >BEER

[dmt head]

I've done that once. I remember staring at two lampshades near each other and thinking they were aliens kissing. I can't remember a lot of what happened, but my friend told me that I was rambling on about sacrificing a dog to summon a demon like it was something that actually happened to me.

Considering this is highly unlike me, I wonder why the hell I was talking about it. I certainly have no memories of anything that could be considered even remotely similar to that...

Sounds like the motion sickness tablets you used to get round here. Similiar to the tropane alkaloids, datura (jimsoon weed) mandrake henbane etc. At low doses they can be used for nausea and potentiation of psychedelics. Like datura stramonium seeds ;)

Fuck that sort of shit at psychoactive doses though! :eek:

[drgreenbud]

Here's an idea: give up the alcohol and live a happier life, brake the bonds of condition, Alcohol is just as bad as aspertame, don't kid yourself.
My parents owned pubs until a few years ago, I can say without a shadow of a doubt that the drink is screwing your mind and body, 20 years observation study. :)
I stopped having a drink 2 years ago the hangovers were just not worth the hassle anymore. Now i do much more with my weekends than i ever did.

Each to their own though. freewill!
peace dudes and dude'ets

[dude111]

Good for you on GIVING UP THE DRINKING :)

[ownedtbh]

yeh its everywere i even noticed sucralose in HP baked beans the other day. i wont be touching them again

[antinwo]

Well lets see if I get a reply from Bulmers:D

[bardofely]

I used to be a Bulmers cider drinker but gave it up years ago when I concluded that sweeteners were aspartame and even if not it would still be harmful. I mailed Bulmers too voicing my concerns but they never replied to me and so I concluded that was sufficient evidence.

I also was forced to quit all chewing gum including Wrigleys regular for the same reason.

This year I was given an antibiotic by the dentist that contained aspartame and I made a fuss and refused to take it.

[dude111]

You are lucky they repliedExactly..... Most wont because THEY KNOW WHAT THEY ARE DOING AND DONT CARE!!

[bardofely]

Sounds like the motion sickness tablets you used to get round here. Similiar to the tropane alkaloids, datura (jimsoon weed) mandrake henbane etc. At low doses they can be used for nausea and potentiation of psychedelics. Like datura stramonium seeds ;)

Fuck that sort of shit at psychoactive doses though! :eek:

Yes, I totally agree with your last sentence in particular - not only very dangerous but it can also blot out your memory so you cannot even remember what you saw or did whilst tripping. I speak from personal experience many years ago. Most people I know that had taken datura are now dead, not from it but I am sure it contributed. I also know a guy who has been sectioned lots of times and claims that datura is responsible for his mental illness that has ruined his life. It's a definite JUST SAY NO!

[drgreenbud]

Hi (dude111) thnks for the support. People that i know that i used to consider bright and astute are now very much dead inside, they can barely hold onto a thought.

[anonymous]

I'm a big cider drinker and I used to drink Strongbow until I found out it had that filthy shit in it. Now I stick to Olde English, Gaymers (favourite), Scrumpy Jack or Magners/Bulmers (same thing, different bottle) although rarely because they are overpriced.

If you are a regular pub goer you are fucked basically. Most pubs only have Strongbow or Blackthorn on tap so you have to look like a fag and drink Magners.

[bardofely]

In Tenerife you can only get Bulmers Strongbow and Magners and in a bar it can be as much as 4€ a pint! I don't bother with any of it now and my cider drinking days have ended it seems.

[dude111]

Hi (dude111) thnks for the support. People that i know that i used to consider bright and astute are now very much dead inside, they can barely hold onto a thought.I tried to tell my mother about this and she just started yelling @ me saying it was PROPAGANDA,etc.... She has had CARPEL TUNNEL for along time now and i think if she just CUT OUT HER ASPERTAME INTAKE,it would get better..... (She wont listen,calls me names,etc)

Very sad.... I just really dont give a fuck anymore.... Just deal with people that will listen and want to learn the truth.......

Thanx for the kind words drgreenbud :)

[dmt head]

So I got a reply from Strongbow surprisingly, heres what they said:

Hi

Thanks for your enquiry.

The artificial sugar used in Strongbow is saccharin.

Regards

Strongbow

So its not aspartame, though I did mention that I do try to avoid aspartame so maybe their trying to trick me into buying stronbow, or maybe im paranoid :D

[swingslammer]

You all are paranoid...I think you should worry AS MUCH or more about the alcohol you are drinking rather than aspartame. Of course what would you have to worry about if not this? Oh yeah, every other crazy thing you all fret over on this site. I seriously come here for entertainment....thanks for providing it.

[dmt head]

You all are paranoid...I think you should worry AS MUCH or more about the alcohol you are drinking rather than aspartame. Of course what would you have to worry about if not this? Oh yeah, every other crazy thing you all fret over on this site. I seriously come here for entertainment....thanks for providing it.

Your welcome, glad I could be of service! :D

[captaincaper]

Stoped drinking strongbow for this very reason, went back to lager, had 1 can of strongbow a few weeks back @ a m8s and it tasted awfull.

[dude111]

now i dont eat or drink anything without checking.Thats the best you can do! (I check everything (Or i try to))

Anyone have an up to date list that shows exactly WHAT PRODUCTS HAVE ASPERTAME IN THEM?? (We passed it around on this site and i cant seem to find it)

[metallikitty]

On the upside my home brewed rhubarb wine should be ready by the mid-winter festivities :D


home brewed rhubarb wine! OMG - :drooling: that sounds freakin' excellent!!!
:D


>^-^<

[torchlight]

You all are paranoid...I think you should worry AS MUCH or more about the alcohol you are drinking rather than aspartame. Of course what would you have to worry about if not this? Oh yeah, every other crazy thing you all fret over on this site. I seriously come here for entertainment....thanks for providing it.

People have been drinking alcohol since Ancient Egyptian times, probably even before that. Our bodies can handle alcohol in moderate quantities without problems. What becomes a problem is when unnatural chemicals are added to our food and drink. Our bodies cannot process aspartame and it causes us harm even in small amounts, but our bodies CAN deal with a couple of pints of beer without any adverse ill effects.

These unnatural chemicals are specifically designed to make us sick. They market sweeteners by claiming them to be healthier than sugar... bullshit. Of course, too much sugar, like too much of anything (including alcohol) is bad for you. I believe that a healthy diet is a balanced diet with a little of everything but without any of these artificial chemicals. I highly doubt that my having a drink socially on a Saturday night is going to cause me as much harm as these chemicals. I don't mean getting absolutely hammered because getting into a right state and being hung over to hell all of Sunday is no fun, I'm talking about having 3-4 pints of lager once a week where I can have a cup of tea and then feel absolutely fine.

Alcohol was originally invented as a means of sanitising river water that may have otherwise have been unsafe to drink. It was an effective defence against diseases such as dysentery in ancient times, but the alcohol content would probably not have been more than 3%. It's almost ironic that something invented initially as a health product is actually bad for us in large doses.

Best thing to drink: Soda Water.

[apollo_gnomon]

Screw that. Just drink hard liquor from the bottle, saving the hassle of washing a glass. ;)

[dude111]

These unnatural chemicals are specifically designed to make us sick.Best reply ever!!!

Yes they hope ppl will be sick and have to spend $$$ on something CAUSED BY THIS CRAP!!! (And thus making them $$$)

Couldnt have said it better myself!

[torchlight]

Best reply ever!!!

Yes they hope ppl will be sick and have to spend $$$ on something CAUSED BY THIS CRAP!!! (And thus making them $$$)

Couldnt have said it better myself!

Not only will they make a lot of money selling so-called treatments (like so-called cancer cures that are in actuality as devastating to the body as the illness itself), they will also be able to kill significant numbers of people in their depopulation plan. Evil never sleeps.

[dude111]

Yes its very scary when you have risen above the controlled realm and are able to see things as they really are!

[disorder2k8]

Sucralose is the by-product of the creation of pesticides.

fear fear fear

Are you afraid yet?

Wow, that's so off the mark I just couldn't believe it. Where did you get that gem from, youtube?

To the OP. Don't worry about the paranoid on this thread, drink in moderation,get some exercise and replace your water when you get dehydrated. You will be fine.

The fact is, almost everything on this planet is bad for you in some way or another if you don't have any control over it. If you go overboard of course you will see a problem and that is your body's way of saying "let me catch up", It needs to process everything out of your system and is very resilient, adaptive and self-healing. Hell you can die from too much oxygen (http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/hyperoxia) and too much water (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_intoxication) too if your body was ever put into that situation where that happened, like over drinking water at a rave(or for any other reason (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16614865/)), then you would die.

If there was really a problem with all of these sweeteners then you would see a lot more people in hospitals and waiting rooms complaining about poisonings and overdoses but you don't. You only read or hear rumours and they come from the net, the greatest source of lies and misleading facts ever.

Observe reality see what is really happening, and for those that have actually seen or had problems, it could be any other number of random factors you didn't consider. Correlation is not causation. Those very few that do develop issues are the exception to the rule that applies to everything in life, the same rare few that die in traffic collisions, get struck by lighting and all the other lovely ways that one could snuff it or become unwell; They're in the minority.

[christ4life]

I can tell fake sugar from real sugar, and the artificial sweetners are just what they say they are artificial not the real deal. Let me tell you they are nasty another reason why I wouldn't drink diet drinks. They even stick this junk in Koolaid, and Flinstone vitamins. Products that didn't need it before but have it in there all of a sudden really makes you wonder why.

[dude111]

Yes its disgusting!!!!

Almost all gum i used to like 20 years ago NOW HAS ASPERTAME in it!! (WHY?????? ASPERTAME IS FOR DIET CRAP)

Totally sickening..........

[deany]

I recently came across this thread after searching for information about strongbow, I have been having some terrible anxiety attacks and feel it may be connected to the strongbow (I was drinking it regularly).

thanks to the info in this thread it drew my attention to the "sweeteners" inside the drink, I will not be touching the stuff with a 10 foot bargepole from now on!

cheers guys.

[dude111]

Good for you.......... I hope your troubles go away :)

[unionjack1967]

I love cider.....mmmm!! but I'm pretty sure Strongbow is the cider equivalent of 'Coke'...I'd love to be proved wrong because I really quite like it...:)

On the upside my home brewed rhubarb wine should be ready by the mid-winter festivities :D

You should try parsnips, i have and its just awesome. I stored a bottle for 10 years, one large glass and i was a buzzin. An aunt of mine specialises in orange wine, also a very tasty brew

:UJ:

[cotarddelusion]

I recently came across this thread after searching for information about strongbow, I have been having some terrible anxiety attacks and feel it may be connected to the strongbow (I was drinking it regularly).

thanks to the info in this thread it drew my attention to the "sweeteners" inside the drink, I will not be touching the stuff with a 10 foot bargepole from now on!

cheers guys.

thats odd.

last week I went out with some friends drinking... I usually drink lager, whiskeys, vodkas, but for some reason I hit the strongbow, and I hit it pretty hard all in one night (for me considering im female and can get drunk on 3 pints :p)... Ive had the odd can before, but never dug it much because it really tastes so fowl and like nasty chemicals... but anyways I had a few pints got a little drunk, woke up the next day feeling like my head was in a vice. I felt dreadful, really really bad hangover, worse then im used too... I go to see my boyfriend and we go into our town and all of a I start feeling insanely anxious and I have a very intense panic attack... utterly horrid experience and I am inclined to blame the strongbow! I avoid aspertame and artificial sweetners, but for whatever reason ive never thought to check the alcoholic beverages I drink!

ill be sure to do so after reading this thread... I never want to ingest any artificial sweetners of any kind...

[winegums]

thats odd.

last week I went out with some friends drinking... I usually drink lager, whiskeys, vodkas, but for some reason I hit the strongbow, and I hit it pretty hard all in one night (for me considering im female and can get drunk on 3 pints :p)... Ive had the odd can before, but never dug it much because it really tastes so fowl and like nasty chemicals... but anyways I had a few pints got a little drunk, woke up the next day feeling like my head was in a vice. I felt dreadful, really really bad hangover, worse then im used too... I go to see my boyfriend and we go into our town and all of a I start feeling insanely anxious and I have a very intense panic attack... utterly horrid experience and I am inclined to blame the strongbow! I avoid aspertame and artificial sweetners, but for whatever reason ive never thought to check the alcoholic beverages I drink!

ill be sure to do so after reading this thread... I never want to ingest any artificial sweetners of any kind...

I'm not saying it definately wan't the aspartame (or anything else in the strongbow), but you might want to consider the fact that you got really drunk as possibly being the cause of what happened the following day.

[deany]

thats odd.

last week I went out with some friends drinking... I usually drink lager, whiskeys, vodkas, but for some reason I hit the strongbow, and I hit it pretty hard all in one night (for me considering im female and can get drunk on 3 pints :p)... Ive had the odd can before, but never dug it much because it really tastes so fowl and like nasty chemicals... but anyways I had a few pints got a little drunk, woke up the next day feeling like my head was in a vice. I felt dreadful, really really bad hangover, worse then im used too... I go to see my boyfriend and we go into our town and all of a I start feeling insanely anxious and I have a very intense panic attack... utterly horrid experience and I am inclined to blame the strongbow! I avoid aspertame and artificial sweetners, but for whatever reason ive never thought to check the alcoholic beverages I drink!

ill be sure to do so after reading this thread... I never want to ingest any artificial sweetners of any kind...

I have been getting intense panic attacks and gasping for air.

Both of these symptoms are listed as possible side effects to aspartame.

I try and avoid them too, but they're putting the crap into so many things these days it's hard to keep up!

but yes strongbow is definitely off my list for good.

[deany]

I'm not saying it definately wan't the aspartame (or anything else in the strongbow), but you might want to consider the fact that you got really drunk as possibly being the cause of what happened the following day.

it's an interesting coincidence that panic attacks occurred to both of us though, I don't recall ever having such a feeling after being drunk with any other drinks, and I've had plenty of practice over the years ;)
but yes you are right we do need to consider all options and not just the strongbow, but what we do know is it is not just loaded with sugar, it also has artificial sweetners in it too, it's not for me anymore thanks.