the 9 dimensions

[nathan30]

hi everyone. thanks for your replies in my last thread. some of u said about lucid dreams and i encourage u to keep having them but this is not what is happening to me, i have had many lucid experiences where i can fly and create my own realities. this is the seventh dimension. i am still learning but have been to all the dimensions. my latest experiences are very different. i leave my body and am in my flat. eveything is the same. i started with some simple experiments like lookin in the mirror. i looked the same. its hard to hold this state. if i think of my body i come back to it. on the third night i went downstairs where i found people hiding. i was cocky and said they had nothing to worry about but soon discovered that i have no power or control in this place. i cant fly or control others. its the fourth dimension which is ruled by the annunaki. fear rules. i met a zombie. this is why sacrifice in war is so important. the more people that die in fear the more people get trapped there which inturn makes its grip on the third dimension stronger meaning we live in more fear. everytime u see someone being aggressive or negative this is the fourth dimensional archetypes effecting our third dimension. love really is the answer. we must stop living in fear. dont fear death. theres no such thing. we can only get to the higher dimensions by going through the fourth. its all about your state of mind. that dictates where u go in your dreams. u being chased? your in the fourth. u can fly? your in the seventh. these are real places we just need to wake up to them. this is how we will evolve and we can all do it. u just have to believe and stay positive. its the agenda thats been there all along. the pleiadiens want us to make it and will help u if u ask. my evolution has already begun. im not unique just an early starter. im a normal bloke who never believed in anything but my experiences are teaching me, not a book. pay attention to your dreams. thats where the answers lie. the people u meet are entities from other dimensions who want to share stories with u. peace eveyone and good luck.

[kblood]

You seem to have an in depth knowledge of the dimensions by now :) I havent figured them out completely yet. Mirros are as far as I know, doorways to another dimension, like it seems you are refering to. I just saw a movie that told a story about if someone dies in front of a mirror, you might get caught in that dimension. It is hard work trying to bring someone back from that dimension, and those that go there, probably has a reason for doing so. It seems to be a kind of ghost dimension though, I cant be sure. Those that do get caught in the mirrored dimension seems to be opposite of us. Quite angry and full of negative emotions. They are unhappy and probably want revenge on this world. Some people like you, are probably able to reach them, and might be able to pull them back out in some way. They might even come back to life from it.

Hope that gives some insight on this new dimension you have begun to discover.

[synergy777]

cool, got any more info on dimensions/lucid dreamin.

flying is good fun, so is surfing, the other day, i was just on my two feet sliding/jumping down hills/fences, like feet skateboarding/rail sliding. i think my inner slacker/skater/surfer will never grow up, lol.

the best is terraforming, eg moving hands and creating hills, your look into space and say trees, up they pop, it feels real, i move my hands, then lush green hills pop up. i think its vr/cgi llike, personally, a mental trick. sometimes i just let the dream go on, follow it, like a story, sometimes, i just stop, and start my own dream. i have even woke up, then got back to sleep and carried on the same dream.

the wierd thing is the forces eg gravity, drag, as they are in the dreams. i was wondering why, are these in the dreams? are these due to being conditioned thoughts/realities of this dimension. see if it is interdimensional, then why are these constraints eg gravity/drag present?

also trying to fly off earth into space, has ended up once being prevented by huge green emerald pyramid/flying ship. once i did seem to be on planet were they transporting dolphins onto a ship, the background was red nebula. everytime i ask for the creator, no person ever comes, just some white temple in clouds, or dome of the rock, or weird wonderful crystal spheres floating, with arabic, hebrew, sanskrit fonts/words inside them.

i think its imagination, as i have vivid imagination, and filtering, eg i watch sci fi/nature docus and have been lucid dreaming since 10/11. its just now i can do it daily. when yopu do something cool, you wake up feeling energised, powered up. i went through a peroid of bad dreams, financial crashes, world wars, seas boiling, stars falling, the sky going red, but this could be from reading revelations and this internet stuff.

this isn't bollocks, as to be frank, i have a dubious view on astral/dimension travel new age stuff.

[lydia78]

Hi Nathan30

Really interesting post, I started a thread called shadow spirits yesterday, about the negative aspects of OBE, and was wondering if you have any understanding of what exactly these things are.....like are they 'lower plain agents' of the illuminati?

The demonic plain is a strange place, because combat with zombies, vampires etc, can also teach you about the strength of your own spiritual powers, how to use your 'light' to destroy and transmute them.

I and my mum and sisters have all had wonderful, wonderful lucid dreams of levitation, teaching this to others, flying, performing the most amazing martial arts, playing violins (i dont play in real life but that dream was spectular)telepathy with people, animals, meeting angelics and talking to those how have passed over to the spirit world......sometimes I really feel as though the dream world is more real then everyday life......Also, I have to say, these dreams have energised me and I credit them with teaching about our individual spiritual powers, the times I have awoken to the amazing energy throughout my body and felt changed forever.......:)

Might see you about on level 9 :D

[synergy777]

how about helping me, to make sense of this stuff. i never asked for it, in fact its a bloody nuisnance, its a curse more than a gift.

[lydia78]

Hi Syn777

The path is not always easy, Mum and I are always saying "If this is spirituality then NO MOOOORE!!" but of course you go on and sooner or later it becomes easier the more you learn by experience......It's the damn red pill syndrome ain't it!!:)

[synergy777]

how is this constructive in the real world, how can it help in this world?

[nathan30]

a curse maybe but somewhere along the line u volunteered for it. its tough as no one will rock up with all the answers. we are essentially on our own and if we are to evolve as a race then we have to do it on our own. no one can give us all the answers as that would be cheating. the illuminati are just puppets of the fourth dimensional annunaki. they control every human with fear. we r just acting out a play. as we move further into the photon band more and more of us will be experiencing multidimensional stuff but we never get told about it so some might fear it. fear not and you'll be free. i fear nothing but these fuckers are trickt. i broke the rules by trying to tell a dead girl where she was. i was thrown back to my body then wen i went back to sleep i was in a maze. they know the human psyche better than we do and they no how to fuck us up. the maze was like a series of tests. tests that seem so simple but everytime u move u end up further from the end than ever. people who die in fear, even if u just dont believe in afterlife. u end up trapped in the fourth where the can fuck with u more and more. im lucky that i had a body to return to else i think id have been trapped there for years. maybe eternity. i really recomend u read the book the pleiadian agenda by barbara hand clow. we r all spiritual warriors and its time to evolve and kick the annunaki off our planet. all dimensions will eventually b visible and they'll have nowhere to hide. the truth will out and those of us that r ready will create our new world. the real new world order. peace

[lydia78]

Hi Syn777,

It is there to build you up internally, to strengthen you and your intuition,to heal our inner pain etc, the more open and aware you are, the easier it is to relax into your true state of being, ie not anxious or fearful, though the path of awakening is difficult and challlenging, it shows you how to master yourself in th 3d world, ie, all of the above.

You also begin to 'see' the higher aspect in others and inevitably the darkness, but the thing is through these dreams and in dayly experiences you no longer are repelled or threatened, instead you see the truth of situations or of people.....it's a life changing life journey for sure, that has one goal in mind, to reveal the truth of who we are.

[kblood]

how about helping me, to make sense of this stuff. i never asked for it, in fact its a bloody nuisnance, its a curse more than a gift.

As I think I have written before, I believe what you have come in contact with, is the creative dimension. According to numerlogy, the "4th" dimenson.
Numerology - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I believe what is happening when you "dream" this is that you in fact are creating new worlds in other parts of the galaxy or universe. It happens on a very different timescale though.

[synergy777]

the pleiadian agenda by barbara hand clow any pdf's.

the annunaki to me are the biblical fallen, the angels that rebelled. time will see them become public. in the old days they did not need to hide, they were kings, paharohs, etc. this time they know they will lose so they are merely engaging in the last throw of the dice, the last party, the last war.

even if we knew who we were, souls having a human experience etc, what would that change? its logical to realise that there is an energy/spiritual aspect beyond the biological/body, call it spririt/soul/21 grams.

thanks for the advice, links, i will take a look.

[bennett211085]

I have re-occuring dreams of being chased by people wanting to kill me but when I really need to get out the way I just fly up and away out of their reach??

[synergy777]

cool, learn to activate yourself in the dreams, once you learn to fly, next time after flying away from them, tell yourself i want to fly somewhere you like, eg fly through a valley, highlands etc, you watch what happens, its free vr, lol.

i started going to a valley etc, after i got good, eg learnt moves, i went flying through a city/ny whizzing past skyscrapers, slalom like, lol

when its this good, you don't want to wake up.

[nathan30]

not the fourth. the fifth or the seventh have these creative archetypes. your very lucky to be going there believe me

[synergy777]

why if these are other dimensions, are they governed by the same rules eg gravity etc, drag from the wind when flying etc, the clothes ripple etc, the wind feels like wind, the sun etc.

before i use to be in one situtaion then before i know it, the situtaion would flip into an evil one, really quickly, and i would be angered by it. the dark side is tricky, like showing nice chicks then you go up to them, and at the last moment they turn into something evil, someone else etc. the zombie/vamp ones were quite bad, but know i now they are not real per se, it is handled, controlled by me after.

i think sometimes it filters between travel? and memories/fears/hopes, filtering data etc.

http://www.handclow2012.com/mayancalendar.htm

[synergy777]

nathan cheers for the talk, i just see this, well not very scientific, is it.

http://www.handclow2012.com/pleiadianagenda.htm

http://unjobs.org/authors/barbara-hand-clow

Most of humanity lives in the third dimension. But if you dream, you can not deny the existence of another dimension...9 Dimensions by Barbara Hand Clow. What is important to remember is that you are never alone. ... You can do this by meditating, working with a ...

http://www.access-4-all.com/metaphysical/Dimensions.pdf

[synergy777]

http://www.stationlink.com/mystic/numero.html

Dimension - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

http://scholar.uwinnipeg.ca/courses/38/4500.6-001/Cosmology/dimensionality.htm

dimensions/holographic/electric universe this is physics, not mystic.

http://www.mkaku.org/
Michio Kaku - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Dr. Michio Kaku (加來 道雄 Kaku Michio, born January 24, 1947 in the United States) is a Japanese American theoretical physicist, tenured professor, and co-founder of string field theory, a branch of superstring theory. He is a widely known popularizer of science, the host of two radio programs, and the author of numerous books.

holographic/electric
http://www.crystalinks.com/holographic.html
http://www.holoscience.com/
http://www.kronia.com/electric.html

electrons/atoms = waves/particle = observer effect/reality.

construction = fibonacci/fractuals

see how the visual spectrum is a small part of the electromagnetic spectrum, so is the 3d dimension a small part of the whole 9/10+ dimensions.

[lifeofbrian]

hi everyone. thanks for your replies in my last thread. some of u said about lucid dreams and i encourage u to keep having them but this is not what is happening to me, i have had many lucid experiences where i can fly and create my own realities. this is the seventh dimension. i am still learning but have been to all the dimensions. my latest experiences are very different. i leave my body and am in my flat. eveything is the same. i started with some simple experiments like lookin in the mirror. i looked the same. its hard to hold this state. if i think of my body i come back to it. on the third night i went downstairs where i found people hiding. i was cocky and said they had nothing to worry about but soon discovered that i have no power or control in this place. i cant fly or control others. its the fourth dimension which is ruled by the annunaki. fear rules. i met a zombie. this is why sacrifice in war is so important. the more people that die in fear the more people get trapped there which inturn makes its grip on the third dimension stronger meaning we live in more fear. everytime u see someone being aggressive or negative this is the fourth dimensional archetypes effecting our third dimension. love really is the answer. we must stop living in fear. dont fear death. theres no such thing. we can only get to the higher dimensions by going through the fourth. its all about your state of mind. that dictates where u go in your dreams. u being chased? your in the fourth. u can fly? your in the seventh. these are real places we just need to wake up to them. this is how we will evolve and we can all do it. u just have to believe and stay positive. its the agenda thats been there all along. the pleiadiens want us to make it and will help u if u ask. my evolution has already begun. im not unique just an early starter. im a normal bloke who never believed in anything but my experiences are teaching me, not a book. pay attention to your dreams. thats where the answers lie. the people u meet are entities from other dimensions who want to share stories with u. peace eveyone and good luck.

You say "the 9 dimensions". There are 15.

[synergy777]

http://www.occult-underground.com/astral.html

great books, thanks to december.

[kblood]

Brilliant posts :) Thanks. Seems easier researchable with these links. So hard to find answers that feels true.

[kblood]

any pdf's.

the annunaki to me are the biblical fallen, the angels that rebelled. time will see them become public. in the old days they did not need to hide, they were kings, paharohs, etc. this time they know they will lose so they are merely engaging in the last throw of the dice, the last party, the last war.

even if we knew who we were, souls having a human experience etc, what would that change? its logical to realise that there is an energy/spiritual aspect beyond the biological/body, call it spririt/soul/21 grams.

thanks for the advice, links, i will take a look.

The soul have been measured to 21 grams? That is quite alot of data in raw energy... I thought it would just be a few 0.something gram :p

This might make the soul easier to research. If needed... so far it seems to me that all data of this kind is very likely to get misused. These biblical fallen might very well be able to appear as regular people in our world and on our planet. Take Micheal Jackson f.ex. He might be the devils puppet of a sort. Other angels might be walking our earth as humans as well. Im trying to make a network of "special" people. Online games are great for doing so :) Also chatting makes it easy to prove telepathy ;)

[kblood]

http://www.holoscience.com/synopsis.php?page=12
Finally a theory about the universe I can relate to :D

Seems Im not the only one seeing it all like this then. Will keep browsing these links :) Thanks again :)

[synergy777]

anders have a gander, lol

[kashmirz]

Interesting, i dont dream, nor do i have conscious memory of where i go, although i am very aware i go somewhere at night , unfortuantly ... i cant ever remember,i also know it is none of these dimensions you have listed ...

so what is it you say and how do you know that your not ... i do... because i do haha :) i talk with alot of what i call "angelics" just for a suitable word really, i know i do but the rest is .. oh gosh its hard to explain

Anyone here have any sugestions on what i might do to become ... consciousley aware of were i am going, or perhaps see it... because for me .. its like *blink* great im awake ... but . its been a long time. hard to explain

hmm suggestions?

[kblood]

I think we dream to "process" our thoughts and so on. It keeps us sane. Without dreaming we simply begin day-dreaming. Using medication to help us sleep, like sleeping pills, usually makes the sleep less effective. We simply dont dream the best way possible. It doesnt make us get rid of stress and so on the same way.

I find getting a good nights sleep very difficult sometimes. When I then am able to sleep, I try to sleep for as long as possible, when possible :) Having some good daily routines helps the body keep its balance. Best to sleep at around the same hours each day, eat, and so on. I think every doctor will tell his patients that.

If you want more out of sleeping, like astral travel... well, it probably has happened several times. Forcing it might not be wise though.

[kashmirz]

Mate ive astral traveled before, i also acidentaly sliped into the 4th dimension when i was 11 :) was confronted with the eyes of a illuminati in their bodiless form and it was like looking into every single nightmare of every human EVER at once ... so im well aware :)


i was interested as to how i can regain my memorys of what i know im doing yet feel is being blocked.

:D

[kblood]

i was interested as to how i can regain my memorys of what i know im doing yet feel is being blocked.

:D

Ahh :) Well, I havent found any good way yet :( Takes alot of time to dig up these kinds of memories. Im afraid I do not have the "capacity" for all these memories. Seems like we have to use astral travel or hypnosis of some kind to get the memories back. Reading books and watching movies, playing games and so on, can sometime reawaken lost memories I think. That has been my best method so far. Most the astral "memories" require some kind of substance, since I belive them to be feelings and memories that our mind cannot fully understand, unless we find something similar in a book or some other media. Can also just be an attempt of mind control I guess. I try to be critical and skeptic about it all, and try not to believe what I have come to find, unless I am able to prove it to myself in some way.

Usually it just cannot be proven, even to yourself. Can take years to figure these things out.