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astraltraveller
15-08-2007, 02:59 AM
hi folks

this post is about some of my thoughts , and some conflicting thoughts on the nature of the matrix we are in and the nature of reality . i dont realy know were im going with this but i would like to know if anyone else has had the same kinda thoughts .

hundreds of years ago in fuedal japan a captured ronin jonin or janin ninja who was being tortured would commit suicide or they would commit sepuku in order to have an honerable death if they lost a battle or failed a mission by cutting in a triangle formation into the hara or by asking thier victor to behead them . but today because of the new age movements telling us things like if you commit suicide you will reincarnate and have to live life all over again and try getting past the point wich made you commit suicide in the first place . we are also informed that some near death experiencers have witnessed long cues of people in the afterlife walking around like lost souls with thier heads to the floor and have to walk around possibly for many years untill they are forced to reincarnate again when the time is rite when god can find an opening for the person .

i have problems with suicide , reincarnation , and the nwo and not only these but reincarnation in general because i have read from several souces that reincarnation has now been proven and it is a fact acording to the sources . the real problem for me is and for the whole human race apart from those who are lucky enough to be able to ascend like jesus if he exsisted and other ascended masters who have left the karmic weel and off of the cycle of life death rebirth . the problem is only lucky people like yogis who can dedicate thier whole life to leaving the the reincarnation cycle can ascend or leave thier bodies in thier light bodies and move to a diffrent dimension . but what happens to the rest of us and what happens if the nwo defeats us and creates a prison planet with a satanic religion that will not allow the philosophy of of ascention and will not allow people to sit around in temples dedicating thier lives to leaving the reincarnation cycle and what happens if the nwo get away with what they plan with project blue beam . will we forever be trapped in a dimension after death under the new world order and only be doomed to reincarnate back into this hellish life for eternity .

another problem i have is that according to project blue book some people will be kept alive on machines while organs are taken and used in transplants , does this not constitute torture and what about others who will be kept alive and used for medical research , is this not torture ? . the question i cant find the answer to is , did the ninja get it rite , was it a good idea to commit suicide to evade torture and is it a load of crap that we will have to join a cue in heaven and get a good moaning from god and a big lecture with him telling you you shouldnt commit suicide and that you should allow yourself to be tortured for as many years as it takes you to die and then be reincarnated and go back to earth's prison planet .

another problem arises here with the ninjajust as an exsample for arguments sake . if we are suposed to come back after suicide and try getting past the point that made you commit suicide then what if you come back and commit suiced again at the same point because you probably will have no recollection of your previous life unless you are like some lucky people who say they remember past lives . but what if you dont remember , you could come back many times and commit suicide at the same point and do this for eternity , or what if you were a ninja in a past life and kept commiting suicide up to the present day then whats the chance you will actualy still be a ninja in the modern day and have to fight a samurai . thier is not much chance of you being a modern day ninja who will have to fight a samurai , do you see what im getting at ? . im saying that is this that we are told by new age people that we have to come back after a succesfull suicide attempt and try getting past that point , is it just bull made up by illuminato connected misinfomationists to keep us from commiting suicide and escaping the matrix ? .

is it possible that anyone who commits suicide will have to come back and live the same life again and is it even possible for all those situations that led upto it actualy be possible to happen again in a future time .

another question is , what is suicide and does it exsist ?

sound like a stupid question ? , well what about this . if you join the army and get killed isnt this a type of suicide ? . what if you smoke and get cancer knowing that smoking can cause cancer couldnt smoking be construed as suicide ? . thier are a multitude of things we do in life wich ultimatly lead to death wich we could avoid and what about eating more healthy , what if we have a bad diet that could cause a heart attack , is this suicide and will we have to come back and put things rite ? .

final note

what is the diffrence between dying in any way we choose be it a bad diet or smoking or suicide and uthanasia . is it our fault that billions of us dont get the oportunities to live life like a yogi and ascend and no matter how we die do we all in reality end up in the same placew with the same supernatural powers and are we realy infinite conciousness and powerfull beings who are all god or a part of god and if we are why dont we have any power and are forced to join long cues if we commit suicide and have to reincarnate whatever we do or however we die unless we are yogis who get to go to the highest realms of heaven and get off of the karmic and rebirth weels . or .....

is it true , we are infinite conciousness and all powerfull and we have been lied to to keep us imprisoned .

i apologise if anyone finds this post boring and or depressing but i do not condone or encourage suicide but i do have these questions and ive never seen anyone anywere on the net question these things . i have heard of people commiting suicide and having an NDE and having a possitive experience and not seing the dead walk around with thier heads to the ground waiting to be reincarnated again but they came back to tell the tail and say they experienced an infinite amount of love and compassion . so is it what you believe is what you get , so i say believe its all good and that we have probably been told a lot of rubbish about leaving the matrix .

peace all

garth
15-08-2007, 12:42 PM
hi folks
is it true , we are infinite conciousness and all powerfull and we have been lied to to keep us imprisoned .


Absolutely and as such the answer to your question lies in this one statement.

IMO you don't have to be a Yogi to get off the karmic wheel, you just need to be you, the whole you, the real you, the you that vibrates on infinite love.

Infinite love is the only truth, everything else is illusion.

astraltraveller
16-08-2007, 03:26 AM
hi garth

well said , i guess you are rite and we have to stay possitive . ive had such a crap life its hard though and i hope i dont have to reincarnate here again . i hope we can all go to the infinite and stay thier or i hope the 2012 mayan prophecies come true and we move into the 5th dimension and become free of sickness and become invincible and end up with special abilities .

hey i read your salt post and its cool , i will now be taking sea salt . ive got something made of sea salt called concentrace , its got probably hundreds of minerals , ile post about it in health .

peace

tejas
21-08-2007, 10:32 PM
hi garth

well said , i guess you are rite and we have to stay possitive . ive had such a crap life its hard though and i hope i dont have to reincarnate here again . i hope we can all go to the infinite and stay thier or i hope the 2012 mayan prophecies come true and we move into the 5th dimension and become free of sickness and become invincible and end up with special abilities .

hey i read your salt post and its cool , i will now be taking sea salt . ive got something made of sea salt called concentrace , its got probably hundreds of minerals , ile post about it in health .

peace

Dude, have you read any of Robert Monroes books? He talks alot about reincarnation and OBE, astral travel or whatever. I haven't read them all yet (on the last one atm) but they r very interesting!

earthseed
21-08-2007, 10:40 PM
Yep Monroe clued us in on earth the loosh farm. Hard to get out of here.

alexph777
27-08-2007, 01:00 AM
I had this opinion as well since I was a child. I can never understand why murdering yourself is worse than murdering another. Surely being a serial killer is far worse than just killing yourself. It seems like some tabboo.

Of course killing yourself is very sad and to have reached such a point and so low in life. The Nijas were dying in honour I guess and not out of depression.

I think what you experience when you die is based in what your dominant subconscious patterns are. Its got nothing to do with your actions in the physical.

pumma
27-08-2007, 02:14 AM
hi folks

this post is about some of my thoughts , and some conflicting thoughts on the nature of the matrix we are in and the nature of reality . i dont realy know were im going with this but i would like to know if anyone else has had the same kinda thoughts .

hundreds of years ago in fuedal japan a captured ronin jonin or janin ninja who was being tortured would commit suicide or they would commit sepuku in order to have an honerable death if they lost a battle or failed a mission by cutting in a triangle formation into the hara or by asking thier victor to behead them .
Like the title, but have to correct you on this... :D
"Seppuku" is the right word / or in english "cutting the belly" with Tantō (short sword)...

I could be wrong, but I never came across ninjas doing that > only the samurais.
Because Seppuku was a key part of Bushidō (Way of the Warrior), the code of the samurai warriors.

As for your questions, don't worry about them, they will found you > the truth is all around you, but it's up to you to understand it ;)

cyberdaemon
28-08-2007, 10:57 AM
hi folks
i have problems with suicide , reincarnation , and the nwo and not only these but reincarnation in general because i have read from several souces that reincarnation has now been proven and it is a fact acording to the sources . the real problem for me is and for the whole human race apart from those who are lucky enough to be able to ascend like jesus if he exsisted and other ascended masters who have left the karmic weel and off of the cycle of life death rebirth . the problem is only lucky people like yogis who can dedicate thier whole life to leaving the the reincarnation cycle can ascend or leave thier bodies in thier light bodies and move to a diffrent dimension . but what happens to the rest of us and what happens if the nwo defeats us and creates a prison planet with a satanic religion that will not allow the philosophy of of ascention and will not allow people to sit around in temples dedicating thier lives to leaving the reincarnation cycle and what happens if the nwo get away with what they plan with project blue beam . will we forever be trapped in a dimension after death under the new world order and only be doomed to reincarnate back into this hellish life for eternity .


You mean that "they" will leave to "paradise" and "rest" will be left behind to rotten in "hell" ? Well according to my research , all worlds/dimensions are connected as all souls.So making one reality better makes all others better too.It really is all about "good energy" and "bad energy" in the end and how will it manifest is a secondary element! If there is enough "good energy"
you will build yourself a good word.


another problem i have is that according to project blue book some people will be kept alive on machines while organs are taken and used in transplants , does this not constitute torture and what about others who will be kept alive and used for medical research , is this not torture ? . the question i cant find the answer to is , did the ninja get it rite , was it a good idea to commit suicide to evade torture and is it a load of crap that we will have to join a cue in heaven and get a good moaning from god and a big lecture with him telling you you shouldnt commit suicide and that you should allow yourself to be tortured for as many years as it takes you to die and then be reincarnated and go back to earth's prison planet .


God does not exist as a "man with a bear sitting on the clouds and pointing hes finger while reading hes lecture" God = universe (everything that is was and will be in same place) most people do not know what god is.Its the awareness that controls the universe , its the people , the things , EVERYTHING! As about evil , this so called satan is part of god , not its opposition.Just mentioned.


is it possible that anyone who commits suicide will have to come back and live the same life again and is it even possible for all those situations that led upto it actualy be possible to happen again in a future time .

another question is , what is suicide and does it exsist ?


No it doesnt.Life is a dream and if you look at this as a computer game you may get the point.I at least got it that way.In games if you get killed you , nothing really dies.First of you can always play again.Second its just a damn numbers and calculations in the computer systems , that are forming a picture of different things on your screen.Its an illusion.


sound like a stupid question ? , well what about this . if you join the army and get killed isnt this a type of suicide ? . what if you smoke and get cancer knowing that smoking can cause cancer couldnt smoking be construed as suicide ? . thier are a multitude of things we do in life wich ultimatly lead to death wich we could avoid and what about eating more healthy , what if we have a bad diet that could cause a heart attack , is this suicide and will we have to come back and put things rite ? .


No , when you join the army and go to war you face the possibility of being killed.Its not a suicide.Remember , all life ends with 100% death on this planet Well all people will die sooner or latter.Isnt then being born to here a suicide ?
You cant even imagine how many possibilities there is to get killed , it can happen ANYWHERE and you still walk around and do things! Madness ? People who fear death and avoid all these unhealthy things will eventually get killed , because they recall that experience into theyr lives , while somebody lives 95 years old and still drinks like cow and smokes like a crematorium :D


final note

what is the diffrence between dying in any way we choose be it a bad diet or smoking or suicide and uthanasia . is it our fault that billions of us dont get the oportunities to live life like a yogi and ascend and no matter how we die do we all in reality end up in the same placew with the same supernatural powers and are we realy infinite conciousness and powerfull beings who are all god or a part of god and if we are why dont we have any power and are forced to join long cues if we commit suicide and have to reincarnate whatever we do or however we die unless we are yogis who get to go to the highest realms of heaven and get off of the karmic and rebirth weels . or .....

is it true , we are infinite conciousness and all powerfull and we have been lied to to keep us imprisoned .


The difference is not how you die , but why.I mean whats your mental state during that moment.Is it because you fear life , or do not fear death ? Its 2 different things and are not the same even they seems to be.And by the way , the whole universe has only 1 soul.All these billions of people are just part of it.It has been divided into a millions and billions of sould that look like separate
entities.The point is that think as not someone else wrote this reply , but you asked a questions here and another part of you (me) answered.Like shaking your own hand with other one and telling youself a "Hello!" :D


i apologise if anyone finds this post boring and or depressing but i do not condone or encourage suicide but i do have these questions and ive never seen anyone anywere on the net question these things . i have heard of people commiting suicide and having an NDE and having a possitive experience and not seing the dead walk around with thier heads to the ground waiting to be reincarnated again but they came back to tell the tail and say they experienced an infinite amount of love and compassion . so is it what you believe is what you get , so i say believe its all good and that we have probably been told a lot of rubbish about leaving the matrix .

peace all

I once saw a news how World of Warcraft player commited suicide in order to meet these game characters in afterlife.lol.I do not know if he reached there or not , but suicide is not an escape way out of here.If you play a game and kill yourself , in most chases you simply respawn.Or go back to the olds save.But you do not leave the game itself.

I saw a dream last night where i was a girl.This girl was however in coma and lived in another reality , generated by her mind.So one person was draped into a dreams her own mind generated.I tryied to wake up , but it did not work.So at least it gave me an idea that this might be true.If you kill yourself in a dream , it wont wake you up , believe me.Your mind is still fragments its own reality matrix , because you only killed an illusion.I know that "right body" out there is illusion too , but.

YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.
This video is a fine example , how we create or own reality!

binhdinh_khiwarrior
01-09-2007, 10:28 PM
The only thing to juge you is you, you're higher you the you that is God. We create our reality, and by being here and listening to icke we are already freeing opurselves. we must create the reality where they won't prevail!

I don't see suicide as a totally bad thing, it depends on your situation, God does not put us here to suffer, life is sufferng-that can't be helped just as it is joy also- we are here to learn-because God is learning and growing, and understand also...besides reincarnation includes other planets, i didn't start out human-i think we go where we are needed and where we need to be...ya know what I mean? But in the end, one must consider the other peopel who will be affected by the loss of yourself, often one dosn't realise their own improtance in other's eyes. If life is a struggle, then u are ok, if it is easy, then you are ok, it is meant to be both-there is no good and evil, just causeand reaction- so if u had ur nuts amputated by a bear trap, and some reptilian is munchin on what left of ur brains, i don't think God will mind if u use ur last bullet to eblow ur head off, however life is a very precious gift (no matter how painful that life) and it is something not to be wasted or squandered...