It's TIME to leave guy's

[game over]

start throwing some idea's out there for starting a community in the middle of the forest

my first idea is no electricty it will give the community away you know casino's have these machine's that moniter your exitment and body levels to see if your a hustler so low numbers like 20 people and no electricty


everything should be hidden vary well and stealthed no large buildings nothing taller than 7 feet

[phoebe]

What are you running from?

[game over]

maybe have a 4 wheeler in case of an emergancy to bring wounded or sick back to the city but not for any other use

[game over]

What are you running from?


EVIL CORRUPT GOVERMENT'S AND IGNORANCE

[cleft_asunder]

The survival mentallity, yeah, I remember that. Passed in a year or so. I'll pack some stuff but not out of fear or desperation, just out of love. I'm not worried about the future anymore.

[soglad]

I'm sure you can try and change the city instead of running away.

But yeah, if that's your view on what has to be done then go for it!

Why don't you try and use renewable energies?

[cheeb]

maybe have a 4 wheeler in case of an emergancy to bring wounded or sick back to the city but not for any other use

He is probably a survivalist like Times7,
They gotta look after that tuna mountain,
and Halibut highway,
Wot se going on about!!!

:D

[aelusis]

This is gonna be Waco all over again (jk):p

I have entertained the thought of starting some kind of community or something to disconnect from the system, maybe a retreat for the city folks to get back to infinity, but it's just too unrealistic. You know how much money, time and resources it would cost to create a commuity like that? Most that do exist today, like the hippy communes in Oregon for example, started with a small select few and have simply expanded since.

Though I'm not even certain if we're on the same page here, as what you're talking about does sound more like survivalism. Not that I'm against that, in fact it is a dream of mine to one day be completely self sufficient from the matrix, but I'm going to do that on an individual level.

[game over]

well what i'm thinking is vary simple and would'nt cost vary much money i imagne each person would need about 5000 dollars maybe less

for houseing we would use use 4 season tents your looking at about 1000 for a good sturdy one and some camo tarps i saw these things in a store the other day there like tarps but made of stuff that looks like leaves and sticks

simple and would'nt cost more than 1000 bucks

i imagine we could grow are own food just bring a shit ton of seed's with us live somewere with a long grow season

and somewere with a lake or river for fishing also have air powered rirfle's for shooting small game like wild chickens and duck ( a duck's hard to kill so everyone would need to have there own rifle so like 4 people could all aim at the same spot on him and blast him

sleeping bags

a well for water or have a clean water stream near by

i dont know i'm sure we could create a simple list of things that would'nt require more than 5000 bucks from each person i'm sure each of use could put that away over the epriod of a year easy

[soglad]

well what i'm thinking is vary simple and would'nt cost vary much money i imagne each person would need about 5000 dollars maybe less

for houseing we would use use 4 season tents your looking at about 1000 for a good sturdy one and some camo tarps i saw these things in a store the other day there like tarps but made of stuff that looks like leaves and sticks

simple and would'nt cost more than 1000 bucks

i imagine we could grow are own food just bring a shit ton of seed's with us live somewere with a long grow season

and somewere with a lake or river for fishing also have air powered rirfle's for shooting small game like wild chickens and duck ( a duck's hard to kill so everyone would need to have there own rifle so like 4 people could all aim at the same spot on him and blast him

sleeping bags

a well for water or have a clean water stream near by

i dont know i'm sure we could create a simple list of things that would'nt require more than 5000 bucks from each person i'm sure each of use could put that away over the epriod of a year easy

Hmm, where do plan to do this? I've always wanted to do something like this.

[game over]

one of these forest's

http://www.fs.fed.us/r5/forests.html

wichever one has the least amount of activety

[soglad]

To be honest, you wouldn't be very safe in the west coast of America. Long overdue earthquakes, it will cause giant Tsunamis, you'd be screwed, stay in the mid-lands.

[game over]

california is the only spot for me cental inland cali

[cruise4]

You cannot run, you cannot hide,
You can only fight and win.
Get used to it. Get organised.

[i_am]

one of these forest's

http://www.fs.fed.us/r5/forests.html

wichever one has the least amount of activety

In California ?? :eek:

[game over]

Yup California Inland Central

[auron]

Some books I have just uploaded for you all:

Benson_Ragnar_-_The_Modern_Survival_Retreat.pdf (http://www.badongo.com/file/4048355)

outdoor_survival.pdf (http://www.badongo.com/file/4048356)

US_Marine_Corps_MWTC_-_Summer_Survival_Course_Handbook.pdf (http://www.badongo.com/file/4048375)

US_Marine_Corps_MWTC_-_Winter_Survival_Course_Handbook.pdf (http://www.badongo.com/file/4048382)

US_Marine_Corps_MCRP_3-02H_-_Survival_Evasion_and_Recovery.pdf (http://www.badongo.com/file/4048362)

Jack_Herer_-_The_Emperor_Wears_No_Clothes.rtf (http://www.badongo.com/file/3975960)

[william_mac]

Don't do that. That's silly and immature. Although, taking a nice camping trip near a river with some good friends sounds like a good idea, I must admit.



-William
www.William-Mac.com

[auron]

I just want to get the fuck away from towns and cities. Preferably somewhere in some secluded place in Australia. :D

[soglad]

I just want to get the fuck away from towns and cities. Preferably somewhere in some secluded place in Australia. :D

*EHEM*

:D

[auron]

*EHEM*

:D



http://www.lifeshore.com/smiley/data/media/2/3D_emoticon_186.gif

[_underscore_]

well what i'm thinking is vary simple and would'nt cost vary much money i imagne each person would need about 5000 dollars maybe less

for houseing we would use use 4 season tents your looking at about 1000 for a good sturdy one and some camo tarps i saw these things in a store the other day there like tarps but made of stuff that looks like leaves and sticks

simple and would'nt cost more than 1000 bucks

i imagine we could grow are own food just bring a shit ton of seed's with us live somewere with a long grow season

and somewere with a lake or river for fishing also have air powered rirfle's for shooting small game like wild chickens and duck ( a duck's hard to kill so everyone would need to have there own rifle so like 4 people could all aim at the same spot on him and blast him

sleeping bags

a well for water or have a clean water stream near by

i dont know i'm sure we could create a simple list of things that would'nt require more than 5000 bucks from each person i'm sure each of use could put that away over the epriod of a year easy


While it would be sweet to get away from modern society, and really enjoy an elongated period of relaxation and oneness with nature, you seem to have little knowledge of an outdoorsman. Have you ever shot and killed an animal? You and three other dudes aiming at the same spot on a duck with air rifles in an attempt to gain enough food to sustain yourselves is ludicrous, in _underscore_s opinion.

[lydia78]

Didn't you guys watch the hills have eyes!!!!LOL:)

Has anyone seen the 'hobbit houses'? In the process of acquiring some land down towards cornwall to become hobbit-like...

http://www.simondale.net/house/

:):D:)

[synergy777]

i say we takeover the bellagio in vegas, fight evil but fight evil with style, lol

[infinitetruth]

start throwing some idea's out there for starting a community in the middle of the forest

my first idea is no electricty it will give the community away you know casino's have these machine's that moniter your exitment and body levels to see if your a hustler so low numbers like 20 people and no electricty


everything should be hidden vary well and stealthed no large buildings nothing taller than 7 feet

You're right game over. We should stop feeding the system, they can't survive without us. If we all just left it would be over. The problem is - if you're the only one to turn your back they will get you. There has to be a lot and I am not talking 200 or so. The police have moved hundreds of gyspy to homeless hostel before and they will do it again.

To succeed we need thousands, millions. A lot of people I talk to long for a life without control, where stress is real stress which is used - not the stress you get from being in debt which just builds up inside and destroys. Why do we have to live in the way in which we're told anyway? Huh?

Why do we need money? WE DON'T. Why do we even need the government anymore? Or the NHS? Or anything? We are limitless, intelligent people - how many times have you had those 'put the world to rights' conversations? Living in a forest is not running through fear --- fear is staying! Fear is NOT running. Thats why people stay stuck in a rut their whole lives, they know the world is not right, yet they stay and feed a system they dislike.

Why stay and feed a system you don't like? Why not put your time an energy into a 'new' way. Why not?

[bicycle]

What people have said about permaculture


"Many researchers, including myself, believe that permaculture should form the basis of agricultural and social development. the establishment of a large number of small, permaculture type farms serving local communities and adapted to local conditions, would create tremendous cultural as well as biological diversity, because farming would no longer be geared to uniform global production. Permaculture based mini-farms could be the key to agricultural and community regeneration."

Dr. John Zarb, Newcastle University.


"Permaculture is addressed to people who believe there is a problem, who admit that we have gone astray. If you ever felt that sense of urgent and painful distress which goes with the question, "but what can I do about it?" then this is for you. There is no one answer, but there are positive actions we all can take. Permaculture offers a framework, a way of thinking that we can use to adapt our whole approach to life, it concerns us with consciously applying, sane, ethical, and environmentally sustainable solutions to addressing all our needs."


Graham Bell, permaculture author and teacher


"Permaculture is a philosophy of working with rather than against nature; of protracted and thoughtful observation rather than protracted and thoughtless labour; and of looking at plants and animals in all their functions, rather than treating any area as a single product system."

Fukuoka, Japanese farmer and philosopher



"Permaculture simply asks people to put as much into life as they demand from it. Is this too much to ask to save the world? Use its principles in your everyday life. Teach your children, lobby your governments - local, national and international - with the wisdom it contains."


Dr David Bellamy, botanist


"Permaculture encourages people to take responsibility for themselves, to gain more control of their lives and to take positive steps towards achieving a sustainable future. It is not just for people with land, every one can play their part."


David Watkins, author


http://www.permaculture.org.uk/default.asp

Permaculture - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia