Strange silence

[tien an]

OK; it's the holidays...

We all know that at this time of the year everything slows down a couple of gears whilst we bask in the sunshine, but I have nevertheless noticed a distinct drop in the number of quality posts on this part of the forum.
Where are all the Freemen/-women?

Are you all on holiday?
Have you given up?

Or have I missed something?


tian an.

[girlgye]

I'm personally fed up of the tumbleweed that keeps trailing through it. However, I guess that the plan is to put everyone off using this and all the other boards.

[vienna]

OK; it's the holidays...

We all know that at this time of the year everything slows down a couple of gears whilst we bask in the sunshine, but I have nevertheless noticed a distinct drop in the number of quality posts on this part of the forum.
Where are all the Freemen/-women?

Are you all on holiday?
Have you given up?

Or have I missed something?


tian an.


for me personally, I'm reading alot of the posts (and making PDF pages on the important ones - download the widget for your browser) rather than actually posting , and its rare I can actually add more to what is being said here

take comfort in the fact that 2 years ago only a few of us on the icke boards were talking about the freeman stuff (after viewing Rob Menards vids) and now not only is there a board devoted soley to Freeman of the land (and the TPUC.org website) but there are posters here I'm having to run to keep up with in terms of their research

also the fact the Freeman movement has attracted its very own shrills and disnfo agents should be enough to tell you its having an impact ;)

[bsmurph83]

OK; it's the holidays...

We all know that at this time of the year everything slows down a couple of gears whilst we bask in the sunshine, but I have nevertheless noticed a distinct drop in the number of quality posts on this part of the forum.
Where are all the Freemen/-women?

Are you all on holiday?
Have you given up?

Or have I missed something?


tian an.

don't worry, tien, i'm still here bahaha

jks

i've noticed it's stagnated a bit as well. not that i'm complaining. i, for one, am rapidly plowing through reams of unrelated metaphysical and science data that doesn't offer me any opportunities to make any worthy posts in FMOTL lately. my reading in FMOTL and commerce is zero at the moment! and it'll probably continue to be for a while... :o

one thing i'm grateful for, though, is the greater diversity to be found in terms of members dropping by and making posts. it's spreading.

and you know, i fucking love this forum, if only for the fact that it is 99% dickhead free. there's virtually none of the petty sniping and backbiting that runs rampant in the other forums. fuck that shit.

all hail the freeman forum! :D

[yozhik]

I've also noticed a slowing down of posts, but I interpreted it s most of the main issues have been covered ad nauseum, so there aren't too many "new" issues coming out of the wood work.

Let's be honest, most of the new threads are just the same subjects as have already been debated, discussed, analysed and trolled ... but time has merely cast them somewhere off the first page and the "Search" button is totally underutilised and obviously too difficult to enact ... so easiest (quickest/laziest) thing to do is simply open a new thread.

Right?

Personally, I'm in a re-energising phase. :)

Reviewing, requestioning, re-researching and relearning.
Looking to see if there is anything I have missed, finding some mental polyfilla to cover up any knowledge gaps and generally ensuring my ducks are in a row before launching the next leg of this personal journey.

[girlgye]

It's the help help I've been arrested (doh really not again) I can't come on the boards as my pet dinosaur has died but just wanted to garner what your latest thinking was to what you would do to an arresting officer if he did this type of scenario. Or hows about martial law then? Aw yeh terrorists lets roll with that one.

But yes I agree with Yoshik and bsmurph everyone is dead nice on here and when I know zilch I don't forget those who patiently explained things to me. So thanks.

If there any really serious people really serious about the freeman ideology on here and are making stirling strides ahead then please do let us know how you are getting on.

I'm looking into Pastor Tony King at the moment so many remedies and so little time to explore them.

[size_of_light]

This might be a contemplative phase, where all the vast amounts of brilliant info that's been posted so far is being chewed over and digested.

It'll crank up again of it's own accord in time, and probably be taken to the next level.

[deem]

Still read this thread, I post if iv got something to add to the discussions. i divide my time to a number of threads. Lately there's a few arseholes at my hostel who dont give me any peace when im in the computer room. I cant wait till i can afford a broadband dongle for my laptop. Its very frustrating trying to get into a subject and be constantly interupted by the rowdies telling me to put the 'pikey fighting' on.:(

[Ian2day]

Most of the board is quiet due to the agents not being in their Uni lectures and so off on their toes using up their civil servants holidays. Your see it at Christmas also for 2 weeks. However, one part of me suspects that they have switched boards and are now actively stalking someone who has or did have a connection to Marwell Zoological Park hence the Penguin with a wetsuit Psy-op story that has been used previously about 20 years ago. Possibly a student at Southampton Uni is the target. Who is also a horse rider. Maybe a witness in a court case also. Has had some hypnoptherapy carried out. Has also gone away on holiday with people from the internet that they have never met before. It may be only some of these things.

[size_of_light]

However, one part of me suspects that they have switched boards and are now actively stalking someone who has or did have a connection to Marwell Zoological Park hence the Penguin with a wetsuit Psy-op story that has been used previously about 20 years ago. Possibly a student at Southampton Uni is the target. Who is also a horse rider.

I've been suspecting the exact same thing!

[Ian2day]

I forgot to mention that they may of had some family die and left them some dosh or a house. The south east of England is in the grip of an international OC ring.

[size_of_light]

I forgot to mention that they may of had some family die and left them some dosh or a house. The south east of England is in the grip of an international OC ring.

And this explains why the Freeman forum has gone quiet?

[Ian2day]

And this explains why the Freeman forum has gone quiet?

Yes in a perverse sort of way. Everything is relative, everything.

[tien an]

Thanks for all your replies.

I hadn't noticed any slow-down over Christmas last year...but then I only joined in Nov. last year.

I just find it (suspiciously) interesting that so many of the regular posters have gone silent (particularly from the B'ham area).

Good to see that some of you are still out there.

Regards,
tian an.

[tien an]

Yes in a perverse sort of way. Everything is relative, everything.

You crack me up Ian...


tian an.

[number_6]

I still keep dropping in, but to me it seems that the posts are just the same old same old.

[tien an]

I still keep dropping in, but to me it seems that the posts are just the same old same old.

Hey! number_6! How are you?

I beg to differ, my friend:
Just as the posts in the Freeman on the Land thread started to get to the 'nitty-gritty' of the 'bond/trust' issue...it all tailed off.
People stopped posting. (in particular those who, previously, were most vociferous).
There is a huge, blank wall in front of me (as far as studying is concerned); I can not get to the bottom of this issue.

(I can feel you smirking from here...)

Heavenly peace,
tian an.

[Ian2day]

Just looked at my birth certificate and the numbers add up to 11 and a 7. Then add them together adn you get 18 so 1+8=9. Which is also the number obtained from adding my DOB together.

I was thinking again on the Bond thing. Could all of the numbers adn letters on the birth certificate be just an International Banking Number/account number that is lodged with the Foreign and Commonwealth office. As Freemen on the land is based on all men having a common bond over common law on common land so the common wealth connection seems plausable? Or how about National Savings and Investments.

[aryan57]

Size of Light: Speaking for myself, I have just returned from a two week camping holiday with no internet access anywhere, a complete change and rest.

Now that I am back, my next task is to to write and serve a Notice of Default on my local council, since they refuse to respond to anything I send them, they just ignore everything. This FMOTL business is very tough and hard on the soul, but does that mean we have to give up? No way man.

If my next step gets no where fast, I plan to place a lien on council property for ten to twenty million. That should get their attention. I feel a verse coming on:

For want of me, the world will not fail,
When all it's work is done, the lie will rot,
The truth is great and shall prevail,
When none care if it prevail or not.

Once the summer holidays are over, I am sure we will see a new spurt of energy from everyone on this board. Keep going People! Dont let the PTB b****** get away with anything, we can hold their feet to the fire.

[girlgye]

Ah man. You mean I'm not gonna get to figure how I can mulitply £34 million by 39 and subtract 8 months to arrive at the figure as to how much I'm owed? How can you say its the same ol same o?

Ok lets discuss this seriously who has done some work on BOND not James but life times worth net divvied by circa 70 million people plus one. Is there anyone on here doing it. The bond that is?

We've got 2 weeks before the start of term. This is really important.

[sukyspook]

Hi Tien an, guys/gals....

I'm also finding this a very quiet time on many of the forums/sites I visit - in fact, until 24 hours ago I was thinking that it might all be "over" for us....however....

As is usual after a quiet couple of days I get a torrent of incoming info which puts me back on 'track'. I'm still mid-torrent and am reinvigorated once again.

On the "politics" front, I think this is the loooong breath in before the shtf in September when 'they' will try to continue the lie that 'they' know what they're doing and we should just 'go along to get along' - yeah right.

I just had a looong chat at the door with a guy working for NPower - he mentioned chemtrails to ME!!!!! After that, he got the full-on-rant and went away with a list of vids/sites to ponder - he knew about the birth certificate scam too!!!! Yay!

All is well - if you need something to watch and haven't yet seen them, - here's a newish set of Alex Collier videos which I'm half way through:

April 9, 2009 NEW Alex Collier Interview (01 of 12)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UiOYMsUTNfY

Love,
Suke

[tien an]

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1195149&postcount=20

Way to go, girlgye...that's more like it.

tian an.

[merlincove]

there is so much to take in, and like has been mentioned, periods of digesting all that info give rise to quiet times while it all sinks in.

There is so much to view, the rabbit hole is so deep, with so many new and promising turns.

Not only with Notices of this and that, particularly NOUI's etc, but also to various official bodies - recently i've written to paliamnet, dvla, baliffs, councils, police, some tossa debt collection agency (red debt) who are trying it on for some (accumilated) £7,000 debt that i have no idea of - and they keep on writting, before i've even had chance to hit them with a notice there are three more letters on the mat, i'm also having hassle from the bank. It takes time and can be consuming, creating the initial foundation of paper work / notices to send to these imbeciles who will try to rule our life if there is a quid in it for them.

And then there is

Notice of Understanding

Claim of right

Fee Schedule.

Birth Cerificates.

Four Corner rule.

Difference between signature and autograph.

Trade marking your name.

Rights of companies to share our info.

Right to privacy.

The right to say No. I love this one, just keep saying no to the buggers, at every single opportunity. It might be a basic block to build an understanding on, but once it is overstood, the whole concept of Freeman on the Land becomes a little more solid.

Bond.

NI

V5

Tax.

Council Charges.

Parking / Penalty notices.

Accepted for value (still working on that one)

Contracts - and how to not get into them.

The Antiterrorist.

TPUC Vids

Everyone elses vids :rolleyes:

Our disintegrating rights.

Right to free speech

Right to congregation.

Human being v Person.

Law v Statute.

Proof of Claim.

Writting to the courts ie special appearance.

Protecting what is ours.

Understanding ownership.

Money.

Paying a debt with a debt.

I've probably missed loads...

And this ^^^ is all just for starters, there is a lot to get your head around, and just when you think, ah, i have this all sussed, the rabbit hole opens up again and goes even deeper and we discover a new and exciting aspect project.

And yes, we can get bogged down with it, and it seems like one long paper chase, the more we understand the more we seem to get entangled in the red tape they have tied us in.

But i keep my eye on here, see if there is anything else to learn - and there is always somethig new.

But right now i'm just dealing with red debt who are fucking relentless, i've not even had time to get the letters off and another three fall through the door telling me 'this is not going to go away' - it isn't worrying, not at all, far from it, i'm actually looking forward to them taking me to court for a debt that isn't mine, and see how they like my overstandings of their system, and of course the relevant fee schedules etc, it will be fun, watching them squirm, but something tells me it is all just threat and bluster. But it is time consuming, dealing with all these things.

i mean, how long does it take to put a NOUI together, really, it took me months, and i am still not totally happy with it, there are still changes to be made.... And that has been ALL consuming, somehow we try to fit our life in around this.

But yeah the DI freeman forum is a great place to be, the energy here compared to the other DI lists is often a breath of fresh air. Yes we have the odd shill, but everyone here is cool and without the judgemental attitude (generally) that we see elsewhere, which is good.

Everyone can seem to accept each others views here, and address them where, as and when, they are too-over one sided without the need to rip the poster apart - if only the rest of the threads were like that eh

Respect All

[tien an]

Hi Tien an, guys/gals....

I'm also finding this a very quiet time on many of the forums/sites I visit - in fact, until 24 hours ago I was thinking that it might all be "over" for us....however....

As is usual after a quiet couple of days I get a torrent of incoming info which puts me back on 'track'. I'm still mid-torrent and am reinvigorated once again.

On the "politics" front, I think this is the loooong breath in before the shtf in September when 'they' will try to continue the lie that 'they' know what they're doing and we should just 'go along to get along' - yeah right.

I just had a looong chat at the door with a guy working for NPower - he mentioned chemtrails to ME!!!!! After that, he got the full-on-rant and went away with a list of vids/sites to ponder - he knew about the birth certificate scam too!!!! Yay!

All is well - if you need something to watch and haven't yet seen them, - here's a newish set of Alex Collier videos which I'm half way through:

April 9, 2009 NEW Alex Collier Interview (01 of 12)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UiOYMsUTNfY

Love,
Suke

I'd have liked to have been a fly on the wall in your hallway at that moment.
Thanks for the link suke.

Heavenly Peace,
tian an.

[wildhorse]

For many who come to the DI site, and stumble on this forum not really knowing what it means, read old and new posts, and go off and research, its alot to take in and start thinking "ok, how would I be able to do this and that?"

Many would like to hear success stories, myself included, but the stories that weren't so successful for whatever reason are perhaps even more valuable.

when peeps get proof this works for real and how they got on with the law, then it encourages them to try it for themselves.

[girlgye]

I'd have liked to have been a fly on the wall in your hallway at that moment.
Thanks for the link suke.

Heavenly Peace,
tian an.

Yeah and maybe you'll find you are a few more down as it is clear to me joking aside that there is going to be no serious discussion about fmol remedies.

[number_6]

Hey! number_6! How are you?

I beg to differ, my friend:
Just as the posts in the Freeman on the Land thread started to get to the 'nitty-gritty' of the 'bond/trust' issue...it all tailed off.
People stopped posting. (in particular those who, previously, were most vociferous).
There is a huge, blank wall in front of me (as far as studying is concerned); I can not get to the bottom of this issue.

(I can feel you smirking from here...)

Heavenly peace,
tian an.

No, I'm not smirking! We have been down to Fowey for a while, but that hasn't stopped me from looking in. But I want some new arguments:D

[sukyspook]

I'd have liked to have been a fly on the wall in your hallway at that moment.
Thanks for the link suke.

Heavenly Peace,
tian an.

.....oooooooooooo - shivers down my spine when I read your reply Tien an - you 'know' what I mean eh - when knowing and speaking Truth I get 'confirmation' via shivers and goose bumps lol!!

Poor NPower bloke - complete with 'dreads' bless him - and like an old couple outside our local Somerfield who got a semi-rant yesterday at the closing down of the store - soon to become yet another Tesco which is taking over the world with the assistance of local authorities countrywide - (I wonder how much pocket lining goes on eh) - the "politicians" and "councillors", like complicit "members of parliament" will 'pay' one day though - even if not in this "life"!!

GREAT LIST OF 'TO DO'S' MERLINCOVE - thanks for the list!! I have a lot of homework on the 'Freeman' front and am spurred on by that young, black Rastafarai NPower human being who also knows about the BC scam - YAY!!!!!!!!!! (he now knows about the 'person' vs the Human Being) he also now has links to Bursting Bubbles and the Occult World of Commerce amongst other things and to John Harris/Alex Jones (can't help it - Alex makes me laugh and even if he IS an 'agent' - he's awoken millions)....

What a wonderful time to be alive when the ego's defeated and we no longer live in fear!!

xxx

[girlgye]

there is so much to take in, and like has been mentioned, periods of digesting all that info give rise to quiet times while it all sinks in.

There is so much to view, the rabbit hole is so deep, with so many new and promising turns.

Not only with Notices of this and that, particularly NOUI's etc, but also to various official bodies - recently i've written to paliamnet, dvla, baliffs, councils, police, some tossa debt collection agency (red debt) who are trying it on for some (accumilated) £7,000 debt that i have no idea of - and they keep on writting, before i've even had chance to hit them with a notice there are three more letters on the mat, i'm also having hassle from the bank. It takes time and can be consuming, creating the initial foundation of paper work / notices to send to these imbeciles who will try to rule our life if there is a quid in it for them.

And then there is

Notice of Understanding

Claim of right

Fee Schedule.

Birth Cerificates.

Four Corner rule.

Difference between signature and autograph.

Trade marking your name.

Rights of companies to share our info.

Right to privacy.

The right to say No. I love this one, just keep saying no to the buggers, at every single opportunity. It might be a basic block to build an understanding on, but once it is overstood, the whole concept of Freeman on the Land becomes a little more solid.

Bond.

NI

V5

Tax.

Council Charges.

Parking / Penalty notices.

Accepted for value (still working on that one)

Contracts - and how to not get into them.

The Antiterrorist.

TPUC Vids

Everyone elses vids :rolleyes:

Our disintegrating rights.

Right to free speech

Right to congregation.

Human being v Person.

Law v Statute.

Proof of Claim.

Writting to the courts ie special appearance.

Protecting what is ours.

Understanding ownership.

Money.

Paying a debt with a debt.

I've probably missed loads...

And this ^^^ is all just for starters, there is a lot to get your head around, and just when you think, ah, i have this all sussed, the rabbit hole opens up again and goes even deeper and we discover a new and exciting aspect project.

And yes, we can get bogged down with it, and it seems like one long paper chase, the more we understand the more we seem to get entangled in the red tape they have tied us in.

But i keep my eye on here, see if there is anything else to learn - and there is always somethig new.

But right now i'm just dealing with red debt who are fucking relentless, i've not even had time to get the letters off and another three fall through the door telling me 'this is not going to go away' - it isn't worrying, not at all, far from it, i'm actually looking forward to them taking me to court for a debt that isn't mine, and see how they like my overstandings of their system, and of course the relevant fee schedules etc, it will be fun, watching them squirm, but something tells me it is all just threat and bluster. But it is time consuming, dealing with all these things.

i mean, how long does it take to put a NOUI together, really, it took me months, and i am still not totally happy with it, there are still changes to be made.... And that has been ALL consuming, somehow we try to fit our life in around this.

But yeah the DI freeman forum is a great place to be, the energy here compared to the other DI lists is often a breath of fresh air. Yes we have the odd shill, but everyone here is cool and without the judgemental attitude (generally) that we see elsewhere, which is good.

Everyone can seem to accept each others views here, and address them where, as and when, they are too-over one sided without the need to rip the poster apart - if only the rest of the threads were like that eh

Respect All

http://www.creditorsincommerce.com/audio.php

A place to start Lee I think. I'm going on to it in the week and maybe we can discuss in 2 weeks.

A quick way of dealing with third party interlopers is to write in a 45 degree angle in red pen refused for cause and then nun pro tunc. Start writing on envelopes too and send them back.

Hey I got this idea kinda from you in the first re council tax place so what happened!!

[sukyspook]

I hope I'm not treading on anyone's toes but I missed this webcast by Winston Shrout in the week for which I'd received an invite (thank you to all concerned) and have now received a link to watch it for free over the weekend.

Not sure if this link will work but here it is fwiw - hope it works - if link doesn't work and anyone wants my help to access it as I'm no web-whizz - please let me know and I'd be delighted to assist in any way from the Email I've had:

Winston's First Webcast:

http://www.wssic.com/VideoWSSIC/videoPromos/promoVideoPlayer.htm

[merlincove]

http://www.creditorsincommerce.com/audio.php

A place to start Lee I think. I'm going on to it in the week and maybe we can discuss in 2 weeks.

A quick way of dealing with third party interlopers is to write in a 45 degree angle in red pen refused for cause and then nun pro tunc. Start writing on envelopes too and send them back.

Hey I got this idea kinda from you in the first re council tax place so what happened!!

Totally agree G :rolleyes:

but i kinda opened the mail, without really thinking - haven't recieved anything threatening from the address before, so.... rip

and hey, threats.

It annoyed the fu(k outa me, i can tell ya

So i kinda thought, do i send this back, and to my own amazement i thought no, this is wrong, they are threatening me for something that has absolutely nothin to do with me. So maybe i wanted to play a game a little, lol. The original debt is from lloyds, i aint never banked with lloyds, so i'm gonna see just how far i can push a fee schedule, play the ball, and see if it comes back, and really push this one all the way - just as a dry, nothin to lose run, you know.

they have asked me to pay, £6400, £611 and £650, and they are shoving their shite right into the wrong letterbox.

So i will show them some declaration of right and give them a headache - the way i see it, they cause a whole lot of headaches, so it is time they got one back. i really wanna fight this one, it will be a nice test.

Try googling their name, if you have a spare half hour, red debt collection services / lovell portfolio - they do this kinda thing all the time, buying debts and seeing who will fall for their scam.

i have my stake and am going to pay the vampyres a visit :eek:

:D

EDIT: can't seem to access much from that site, maybe i need to download some programe or other to listen / watch....

[girlgye]

I hope I'm not treading on anyone's toes but I missed this webcast by Winston Shrout in the week for which I'd received an invite (thank you to all concerned) and have now received a link to watch it for free over the weekend.

Not sure if this link will work but here it is fwiw - hope it works - if link doesn't work and anyone wants my help to access it as I'm no web-whizz - please let me know and I'd be delighted to assist in any way from the Email I've had:

Winston's First Webcast:

http://www.wssic.com/VideoWSSIC/videoPromos/promoVideoPlayer.htm

Hey it has worked and thanks for the link. Could we be getting down to some serious study on the DI forum?

[girlgye]

Hey it has worked and thanks for the link. Could we be getting down to some serious study on the DI forum?

However an hour later it says movie hasn't downloaded. No winston any more.

[americana]

For many who come to the DI site, and stumble on this forum not really knowing what it means, read old and new posts, and go off and research, its alot to take in and start thinking "ok, how would I be able to do this and that?"

Many would like to hear success stories, myself included, but the stories that weren't so successful for whatever reason are perhaps even more valuable.

when peeps get proof this works for real and how they got on with the law, then it encourages them to try it for themselves.

I second the motion. Looking to read concrete examples, success stories, if you were . . . yes, and even failures, since it is a learning process for all of us.

[tien an]

However an hour later it says movie hasn't downloaded. No winston any more.

s'funny...I watched a bit of this (no problem) yesterday and came back to it today...it's not working.
Any ideas?

tian an.

[yozhik]

Worked fine for me tonight; no probs whatsoever.
I even downloaded it. (I think ... haven't checked it yet)

[dondaz]

I just find it (suspiciously) interesting that so many of the regular posters have gone silent (particularly from the B'ham area).

Silent, me? Perish the thought:rolleyes: