Can music take the piss out of the NWO?

[baron von lotsov]

I'm no musician or at least not these days but I understand a lot of you are in bands of one form or another and I was musing to myself about what I could do I if were in that position. I had a few of ideas, so here goes.

First off we know the Beatles were part of the system brainwashing so one little idea is to do a spoof version of Yellow Submarine where the chorus sings along "It's a scam, it's a scam..." You know, in that childish mentality of the song. "We all live in a huge big scam, a huge big scam..."

Another idea, this time to cash in on the green agenda. Call your band 0.12%. Why? Well that figure is what all the fuss is about, 0.12% of all greenhouse gasses is what man made carbon is all about so what better way to draw attention to this highly important and symbolic figure. You would get lotsof bookings at gov sponsored events.

My favourite idea though is a kind of hardcore rave number. You know how they go but this one would have like two extremes. You mix in samples of things that are really pathetic sounding like the Beatles lyric "What would you do if I sang out of tune..." then comes crashing in the repetitive T' T' T' Tavistock Tavistock Tavistock T' T' Tavistock. Then back to more samples like "Oh were so pretty oh so pretty vacant" (sex pistols) followed by T' T' T' Tavistock Tavistock Tavistock T' T' Tavistock.

You get the idea. I hope this provides some inspiration to get the rebellion back into Rock and Roll.

[chris]

I like that tavistock idea...Would be well banging mate.

You've probably seen this one...

GORDON BROWN - Illuminati Puppet - YouTube

[baron von lotsov]

Yeh.

I'd stick a few police sirens in there as well.

Hmm, that would be highly amusing and a good way to get people wondering about what on earth it was about. Do you remember the one Adam Freeland? He'd be the man to do it.

[tejas]

I like that tavistock idea...Would be well banging mate.

You've probably seen this one...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0xkIVnuRQc

haha love that :D

[cheeb]

Baron is being a bit sarky tonigh eh.....

If he is such a great researcher,

Why doesn't he tell us about,

Operation Gladio???

[william_mac]

I'm going to go entirely off topic here and say that I absolutely dig the way folks overseas talk. I mean, I write for this Australian guy and he's always going "yeah mate, we slammed the piss big time, my liver is recovering" It took me three days to figure out why he was drinking piss...until I figured it was alcohol.

But it sounds so cool, I want to say that "don't take the piss out of it!" or "don't be getting the shits." With an accent and everything.

hah hah.

raaaannnddoommm.



-William
www.William-Mac.com

[smoking oceanus]

I do think its kind of silly thinking all music is designed to brainwash you. Personaly i think life would be so dull with out creative music that deeply inspires you in some way.

I do believe there is programming purposes in some music. Like Britney Spears because if your a big fan of her, then its not about the music, its all about aspiring to her lifestyle of fame and fortune. The music is just there in the background.

Same with Robbie Williams. Millions of bored desperate housewives couldnt give a shit of how terrible his music is, as long as he moves his ass whilst they dream of leaving their boring Husbands and marrying him instead.

But i think it would be unfair to include all music as brain washing.

[chris]

I'm going to go entirely off topic here and say that I absolutely dig the way folks overseas talk. I mean, I write for this Australian guy and he's always going "yeah mate, we slammed the piss big time, my liver is recovering" It took me three days to figure out why he was drinking piss...until I figured it was alcohol.

But it sounds so cool, I want to say that "don't take the piss out of it!" or "don't be getting the shits." With an accent and everything.

hah hah.

raaaannnddoommm.



-William
www.William-Mac.com

Bollocks is the major word in England and probably australia...

The Bollocks=Great
The Dogs Bollocks=Even Greater
Load of Bollocks=Bad
Kick in the Nadgers=Very bad

Then say Guv or Guvi every two sentances and you could probably pass for a Londoner.

[baron von lotsov]

I do think its kind of silly thinking all music is designed to brainwash you. Personaly i think life would be so dull with out creative music that deeply inspires you in some way.

I do believe there is programming purposes in some music. Like Britney Spears because if your a big fan of her, then its not about the music, its all about aspiring to her lifestyle of fame and fortune. The music is just there in the background.

Same with Robbie Williams. Millions of bored desperate housewives couldnt give a shit of how terrible his music is, as long as he moves his ass whilst they dream of leaving their boring Husbands and marrying him instead.

But i think it would be unfair to include all music as brain washing.

Add the Beatles to your list. Look up Adorno, he was the one who wrote the lyrics and he was from the Frankfurt School and part of the elite of social engineers.

Did I say all music by the way? My favourites are Chopin and Albinoni and I like a lot of the Baroque period. They didn't play out of tune, if you catch my drift.

[baron von lotsov]

Baron is being a bit sarky tonigh eh.....

If he is such a great researcher,

Why doesn't he tell us about,

Operation Gladio???

I thought you already knew about that one. Shayler goes on about it and Dr John Coleman mentions it and I do give him a plug every now and again.

[lifeofbrian]

There is music in the universe. Spheres. Humans did not invent it. They have used it for subliminal programming though. A bass player, I know about the human heartbeat and how to slow it down or speed it up, like drummers do. Key. Any lyrics is secondary. The BPM is the foremost way to manipulate the population. Affect the heart, affect the brain.

Computerized music is unnaturally precise. The NWO just love it.

[baron von lotsov]

People like Roni Size apparently use real drummers rather than drum machines. Now that is a challenge considering the complexity of the rhythms and timing and that sort of thing. I saw the drummer do it on a TV programme once and he was shit hot. So precise that some would conclude it was a drum machine.

[december]

First off we know the Beatles were part of the system brainwashing so one little idea is to do a spoof version of Yellow Submarine where the chorus sings along "It's a scam, it's a scam..." You know, in that childish mentality of the song. "We all live in a huge big scam, a huge big scam..."

You, Brits, are SO funny. You actually need to do something real and not sing some songs...

[lifeofbrian]

People like Roni Size apparently use real drummers rather than drum machines. Now that is a challenge considering the complexity of the rhythms and timing and that sort of thing. I saw the drummer do it on a TV programme once and he was shit hot. So precise that some would conclude it was a drum machine.

There is a significant difference though. A man is not a machine.

[lifeofbrian]

You, Brits, are SO funny. You actually need to do something real and not sing some songs...

Hey man, every aspect of life, society, and influences need to be scrutinised.

If it's not your cup of tea, allow us tea drinkers to look into the areas you cannot be bothered with eh?

Cheers man.

[beetzart]

Baron, love your choice of Chopin and Albioni. Infact I've just started listening to his Piano Concerto in E minor!

[baron von lotsov]

There is a significant difference though. A man is not a machine.


Exactly and that was why they did it and why it was better to the discerning ear. A good drummer has all those subtle nuances and passion in their music whereas a machine is dead. Now electronic music per se is not a bad thing, there is a lot of human input to it and really it is just an extension to the repertoire that was available beforehand. After all a mechanical instrument is no more than a few strings fitted to a wooden box. It's what you do with it that counts and the same goes with sound created out of silicon junctions.

[1 2 free]

First off we know the Beatles were part of the system brainwashing

Not saying you're wrong but what evidence is there that The Beatles were part of a mind control program. I've done a lot of investigation into the replacement of Paul McCartney and clearly the man who was McCartney when the Beatles began is not the man who was McCartney when the Beatles ended. There's also some dubious stuff going on with Lennon doubles and possible other band members. Clearly there was something weird going on with the Beatles but I've yet to be convinced of the Tavistock aspect of the Beatles story. Judging by what you've said in this and other post you do not doubt this claim and I'm interested in what convinces you.

Add the Beatles to your list. Look up Adorno, he was the one who wrote the lyrics and he was from the Frankfurt School and part of the elite of social engineers.

I have a tough time with the idea that a German man in his sixties wrote all the Beatles songs.

[baron von lotsov]

You, Brits, are SO funny. You actually need to do something real and not sing some songs...

What do you mean 'real'. Are you suggesting we go and buy some machine guns or what? Tell me why the elite spend so much more money on propaganda than they do on military hardware. If it works for them then us Brits figure two can play at that game. We have always been known for our wit and inventiveness, something you Americans cannot compete with. Big does not always equate to good.

[baron von lotsov]

Not saying you're wrong but what evidence is there that The Beatles were part of a mind control program. I've done a lot of investigation into the replacement of Paul McCartney and clearly the man who was McCartney when the Beatles began is not the man who was McCartney when the Beatles ended. There's also some dubious stuff going on with Lennon doubles and possible other band members. Clearly there was something weird going on with the Beatles but I've yet to be convinced of the Tavistock aspect of the Beatles story. Judging by what you've said in this and other post you do not doubt this claim and I'm interested in what convinces you.



I have a tough time with the idea that a German man in his sixties wrote all the Beatles songs.

The Beatles were just a bunch of northern youth with no talent, who got picked up precisely because they had no talent. I think the Paul Mc Cartney you see now is Sgt Pepper, which was a nickname for some army musician that they used. He tried to do a solo career after the Beatles programme had ended, do you remember Wings? What a load of crap but the Beatles are remembered for their songs and catchy lyrics. All in a days work for Sir George Martin. Indeed so many 'sirs' around you must admit it does look rather odd when they were supposed to be rebelling against the establishment. Oh and those screaming girls at the airport, you must have seen the footage a million times. A real PR bargain and all in a days work for a few hired film extras.

[1 2 free]

The Beatles were just a bunch of northern youth with no talent, who got picked up precisely because they had no talent. I think the Paul Mc Cartney you see now is Sgt Pepper, which was a nickname for some army musician that they used. He tried to do a solo career after the Beatles programme had ended, do you remember Wings? What a load of crap but the Beatles are remembered for their songs and catchy lyrics. All in a days work for Sir George Martin. Indeed so many 'sirs' around you must admit it does look rather odd when they were supposed to be rebelling against the establishment. Oh and those screaming girls at the airport, you must have seen the footage a million times. A real PR bargain and all in a days work for a few hired film extras.

Not really a convincing argument. And this is my problem. No one ever comes up with anything remotely convincing. Claiming that people who could play several instruments and had fantastic soulful singing voices have 'no talent' is not going to convince anyone. Wings sucked I agree with you there but that's not the original PM. Lennon continued to make great music up until his assassination. The fact that George Martin and 'Paul McCartney' have been knighted is probably the most compelling piece of information you've given but none of the other Beatles were knighted. And Paul is not Paul. And I've never seen any evidence to back up the claim that the screaming girls were paid to be there.

If anyone has any good evidence of The Beatles alleged Tavistock connection I'd really love to see it. :)

[emerald]

The Beatles were just a bunch of northern youth with no talent, who got picked up precisely because they had no talent. I think the Paul Mc Cartney you see now is Sgt Pepper, which was a nickname for some army musician that they used. He tried to do a solo career after the Beatles programme had ended, do you remember Wings? What a load of crap but the Beatles are remembered for their songs and catchy lyrics. All in a days work for Sir George Martin. Indeed so many 'sirs' around you must admit it does look rather odd when they were supposed to be rebelling against the establishment. Oh and those screaming girls at the airport, you must have seen the footage a million times. A real PR bargain and all in a days work for a few hired film extras.

Youre some kind of Joe Against so to say. Im familiar with Beatles matter, but Tavistock or not, please, these guys were talented. "A bunch of (northern) youth with no talent"? That can be applied nowadays fully to these so called artists, but not to Beatles in any way. And yes, as I said on this forum but on another thread, the Paul McCartney we know today is not the the real James Paul McCartney, the one we knew til summer/autumn of 1966, when smth fishy happened. And the only one Beatle alive, Ringo Starr, will never let truth be known, nor will anyone connected to Beatles...

[1 2 free]

Youre some kind of Joe Against so to say. Im familiar with Beatles matter, but Tavistock or not, please, these guys were talented. "A bunch of (northern) youth with no talent"? That can be applied nowadays fully to these so called artists, but not to Beatles in any way. And yes, as I said on this forum but on another thread, the Paul McCartney we know today is not the the real James Paul McCartney, the one we knew til summer/autumn of 1966, when smth fishy happened. And the only one Beatle alive, Ringo Starr, will never let truth be known, nor will anyone connected to Beatles...

There's a fair wedge of poeple that still know though. George Martin, Neil Aspinal, Jane Asher, Cilla Black....there must be tons of people who were part of the Beatle team who knew and tons of celebrities, journalists, etc. I'm amazed no one has ever blabbed. I guess it's one of the wackier sounding 'consiracy theories' though. It's not like the media is going to treat a story like that with respect.

[truthseeker1980]

I ade some very interesting dance tunes back in 2005 with Bush and Blair admitting to 911 and also that the FBI and CIA prey on innocent and unsuspecting people, as well as a load of other funny things.

Not played them out yet, thought it would be a bit dangerous, asking to get sued or copied.

[gonzo power]

And Paul is not Paul.
I agree. You guys might be interested in taking a look at this guy's video series on YouTube about Paul is Dead. He is trying to shed light onto the PID mystery. I think he is onto something. He cracked the code in the Love album. The videos are fascinating and he's really freaking talented.

http://youtube.com/user/iamaphoney

[xdnax]

im gunna remake this song! http://youtube.com/watch?v=GdD654zx8hE
along the lines of "flying the flag all over iraq" etc.
and the little interlude parts between verse and chorus say stuff like "would you like weapons of mass destruction with that madam???" :)

check out my myspace and "love the world" thats a bit more serious, but i wanna do the comedy too.

peace

[baron von lotsov]

There's a fair wedge of poeple that still know though. George Martin, Neil Aspinal, Jane Asher, Cilla Black....there must be tons of people who were part of the Beatle team who knew and tons of celebrities, journalists, etc. I'm amazed no one has ever blabbed. I guess it's one of the wackier sounding 'consiracy theories' though. It's not like the media is going to treat a story like that with respect.


Lennon was about to blab. I suppose they decided against it after seeing what the CIA can do with a Mk looney.

[baron von lotsov]

There's a fair wedge of poeple that still know though. George Martin, Neil Aspinal, Jane Asher, Cilla Black....there must be tons of people who were part of the Beatle team who knew and tons of celebrities, journalists, etc. I'm amazed no one has ever blabbed. I guess it's one of the wackier sounding 'consiracy theories' though. It's not like the media is going to treat a story like that with respect.

It's not wacky in the least. If you look at old pictures of Paul McCartney and the ones later on you can see stuff like the face is different. There are certain things virtually impossible to do in altering a face, even if you are a plastic surgeon. Each face has a unique set of biometrics including the distances and ratios of measurements between the eyes, nose and chin etc. This is determined by the shape of the skull and not the tissue that hangs off it. Look at the pictures and make your own mind up. This is provable.

[intruder]

Rock and roll as "anti-establishment"? oh god, that's a funny one. What does music require, even within free jazz? CONFORMITY!!!! Conformity to standards of tuning, playing in time, working your "schtick", getting deeper into the marketing machine, contracts, deadlines, obligations....
I used to buy into the "anti-establishment" crap as a young lad.....and I'll blame my ignorance on my youth. While many a band has spoken out against this that or the other, the effictiveness and validity is certainly questionable.

The NWO seems to embrace a sinister symmetry, timing, execution, dynamics, gematria, "sacred geometry". Music IS sacred geometry in aural form. I would like to imagine that within their Satanic mansions music IS used as a means to alter consciousness and to enhance ritual. Kind of like Clockwork Orange where the music of Beethoven is coupled with ultra-violence.

Then you have your Trent reznor types and his 9 Inch Nails bemoaning the fact that..."I just wnat something that I CAN NEVER HA-VE!"
Awwww...poor Trent. That multi-million dollar studio you use to convey your depression is STILL not enough huh? Awwww...poor American baby....your "manager", the record company, sound techs, engineers, lighting director, tour manager, hair dye, image consultants, deadlines TRENT DEAD-LINES!!!!!!!!!....and on and on and on we go!! to the ROYALTIES!!!
ROYAL-TIES.

[intruder]

ROYAL-TIES and DEAD-LINES....

I kind of like that!!!!

[intruder]

Und zen ve have ze Beatlez "Yezterday und Today" LP in vich ze fine Liverpudlians are featured in lab gownsz zurrounded by mutilated baby dollz!!!
VUT IZ ZE MEANING OF ZIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!?

and ah...oh yeah...Marx and Crowley are on the cover of Sgt. Peppers.

[kblood]

There is a significant difference though. A man is not a machine.

Says who? Our thought patterns can be affected by machines and the other way around in so many ways. All about frequencies. If you want to research music that rebels, then try "Tom Yorke"s song Analyse. Try checking the background for it. It simply is so many great secrets hidden in one song, I was quite amazed when I heard it. Also Madonna's song "Die another day" is also a bit revolutionary. Takes some great understanding of mathematics thought and the impossiblities in mathematics. At least to understand the song Analyse. I see the song as a kind of beacon. Alot of fuzz about it as well I have come to understand, and I see why.