The “Second American Revolution” Has Begun

[real6]

http://yonkerstribune.typepad.com/yonkers_tribune/2009/08/the-second-american-revolution-has-begun-by-gerald-celente.html

Kingston, NY -- The natives are restless. The third shot of the “Second American Revolution” has been fired. History is being made. But just as with the first two shots, the third shot is not being heard.
America is seething. Not since the Civil War has anything like this happened. But the protests are either being intentionally downplayed or ignorantly misinterpreted.

The first shot was fired on April 15, 2009. Over 700 anti-tax rallies and “Tea Parties” erupted nationwide. Rather than acknowledge their significance, the general media either ignored or ridiculed both protests and protestors, playing on “tea bagging” for its sexual innuendo.

Initially President Obama said he was unaware of the tea parties. The White House later warned they could “mutate” into something “unhealthy.”

Shot #2 was fired on the Fourth of July, when throngs of citizens across the nation gathered to again protest “taxation without representation.” And as before, the demonstrations were branded right-wing mischief and dismissed.

The third volley, fired in early August, was aimed point blank at Senators and House members pitching President Obama’s health care reform package to constituents. In fiery town hall meetings, enraged citizens shouted down their elected representatives. It took a strong police presence and/or burly bodyguards to preserve a safe physical space between the politicians and irate townspeople.

The White House and the media have labeled protestors “conservative fringe elements,” or as players in staged events organized by Republican operatives that have been egged on by Fox news and right-wing radio show hosts.

In regard to this latest wave of outbursts, health industry interests opposed to any reform are also being blamed for inciting the public. But organized or spontaneous is not the issue. While most protestors exhibit little grasp of the complex 1000 page health care reform document (that nary a legislator has read either), their emotion is clearly real and un-staged.

Rightly or wrongly, the legislation is regarded as yet another straw on the already overloaded camel’s back. A series of gigantic, unpopular government-imposed (but taxpayer-financed) bailouts, buyouts, rescue and stimulus packages have been stuffed down the gullet of Americans. With no public platform to voice their opposition, options for citizens have been limited to fruitless petitions, e-mails and phone calls to Congress … all fielded by anonymous staff underlings.

Now, with Congress in recess and elected representatives less than a stone’s throw away, the public is exploding. The devil is not in the details of the heath care reform, the devil is the government mandating health care. Regardless of how the plan is pitched or what is being promised, to the public the legislation is yet another instance of big government taking another piece out of their lives and making them pay for it; again telling them what they can or cannot do.

Though in its early stages, the “Second American Revolution” is underway. Yet, what we forecast will become the most profound political trend of the century – the trend that will change the world – is still invisible to the same experts, authorities and pundits who didn’t see the financial crisis coming until the bottom fell out of the economy.

Trend Forecast: Conditions will continue to deteriorate. The global economy is terminally ill. The recession is in a brief remission, not the early stages of recovery. Cheap money, easy credit and unrestrained borrowing brought on an economic crisis that cannot be cured by monetary and fiscal policies that promote more cheap money, easy credit and unrestrained borrowing.

Nevertheless, Washington will continue to intervene, tax and exert control. Protests will escalate and riots will follow.

Fourth Shot of the “Second American Revolution”: While there are many wild cards that could light the fuse, The Trends Research Institute forecasts that if the threat of government-forced Swine Flu vaccinations is realized, it will be the fourth shot. Tens of millions will fight for their right to remain free and unvaccinated.

Publisher’s Note: The power of the Internet and new technologies is inexorably fermenting the “Second American Revolution.” However widespread and emotionally charged, had the tax rallies, tea parties and healthcare reform protests occurred in years past, they might have been covered by the local media, but might not have made national headline news and thus would have died stillborn.

Now, with the ubiquitous camera-equipped cell phone, universal access to YouTube, and millions of twitters and tweets, the uprisings cannot be ignored, contained, managed, spun or edited down. The revolutionary fervor will prove contagious.

Can anything stop it?

Trend Forecast: Before the momentum of the “Second American Revolution” becomes unstoppable, it could be derailed through some false flag event designed to deceive the public, or a genuine event or crisis capable of rallying the entire nation behind the President. In a worst-case scenario, according to Trends Research Institute Director, Gerald Celente, “Given the pattern of governments to parlay egregious failures into mega-failures, the classic trend they follow, when all else fails, is to take their nation to war."

A false flag attempt, a genuine crisis, or a declaration of war, may slow the momentum of the “Second American Revolution,” but nothing will stop it.


Learn more about The Trends Research Institute by visiting the www.TrendsResearch.com Website.

[duckandcover]

I saw a story on Sky news last night about this, reported a serious rise in militia activity in the US.

[freespark]

I saw a story on Sky news last night about this, reported a serious rise in militia activity in the US.

Amazing how when people riot against the regime in Iran they are fighting for for 'freedom' and thier rights and what not.... they are herioc blah fucking blah...but when the US populace rise up and have a voice it is considered 'militia activity'.

Fucking media scum bags....i hate them.

/Rant.

[mrindigo]

I sincerely hope there isn't a violent revolution. There is enough bloodshed in the world as it is. I don't know what goes through the minds of those who think it's a good idea. Militants or not, they stand little chance of actually putting up a good fight. A lot has changed since the days of the American revolution and civil war era. The technological gap between the people and government is astronomical. There would be no home field advantage because both sides would know the land inside and out.

Even if many of the U.S armed forces and police were to join the people fighting, the government could simply hire foreign mercenaries. They haven't been inviting foreign troops here for joint training exercises for nothing. If there is any hope at taking America from the big corporations, bankers, and self-proclaimed elitists, it will have to be through nonviolence and legality. Using their own system against them is the only way I foresee anything working. Violent reactions only give them justification for using excessive force, and a way and means to issue marshal law. Anyone not wanting to see their 'new world order' brought to fruition, would be wise to not play into their expectations.

[hadabusa]

civil war would be lights out for freedom.
the us citizens cant possibly win by force.

if the ppl dont get educated even a win(no winners in wars)wouldnt help.

[mikey mikey]

The second thread about the Second American Revolution has begun.

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?p=1190209#post1190209

[suicidal_martyr]

Government over here has it all rigged up to where you can't win. You will be labeled terrorist. They will call it "homegrown terrorism" (even if you have a american flag designed bandana on), they got something new they are working on called "prolonged detention" look it up on youtube. We can't do nothing when it comes to being violent, we will just lose and go down as terrorist then really wind up in detention camps.... wish we could make a site and have people register emails of who would participate in a gigantic prayer, no matter what your god is and when we reach a million people willing to participate contact them when and where this call to prime creator could take place. I just don't know where to get started and it would most likely wind up being passed as a plot to form an army even though we would have no weapons... Seems like there is no way to beat this hell to come.

[decim]

Mel Gibson has alot to answer for.

One semi successful revolution, does not equate to a second wholly successful one.

[supertzar]

One thing I can't understand about the Tea Parties is where the hell have these people been for the past X number of years? They had no problem with Bush?

[siriusc]

One thing that perplexes me about the Health Care Plan proposed is that Obamba campaigned that he wanted every citizen to have access to the same health care plan that the Senators and Congressman get yet this plan looks nothing like theirs???:rolleyes:

[aee02]

One thing I can't understand about the Tea Parties is where the hell have these people been for the past X number of years? They had no problem with Bush?

Lol..good question!

I think Americans are fed up with the both political parties, 'he said, she said' rantings. Media-wise, Fox news would have us believe the end of the world is nigh and MSNBC would have us believe that we are now living in an American utopia.

My hope is that people will begin to see through the fascade and start getting motivated to make things happen---NON-VIOLENTLY.

[danceswithbunnies]

Violence while regretable appears to be the only solution to these problems, otherwise government would not constantly use it.

That said, much of the hysteria here in the states is being fueled by the health insurance industry they are paying republican operatives to be bussed in from out of state and disrupt things...they are also spreading huge amounts of disinfo. (they paid "grass roots" republican operatives to storm the recount in 2000 as well)

http://thinkprogress.org/2009/07/31/recess-harassment-memo/

HERE IS THE REAL DEAL..the multinational industries that control our government are :Health insurance/pharma, War industry (aka Defense contractors ), Big banking.They basically have been fiscally raping americans for 30 years to pay these big corporations..
(remember Bushy's $800 billion bail out? Remember Paulson and Bernanke threatening congress behind closed doors?)


What i am doing, and others also need to do..

START COMPILING A LIST
FIND OUT WHO THE MAJOR SHAREHOLDERS OF THESE FIRMS ARE.
Not the CEO's they are just front men...you want the MAJOR shareholders.
Start finding out addresses and pictures of faces.
When the SHTF these are the people who need to be corralled and locked up.


Unfortunately, the real truth is that most of these "tea party" republicans are pawns and dupes of the bug business cartels..I don't expect much from them excpet pandering to the power elite the way they always do.

Their party in particular has been responsible for some of the most heinous damage, deregulating a banking institution that prints money out of thin air for example..(if you are going to use fiat money, you better regulate the hell out of it)..
Gramm Leach Bliley for example reversed Depression era safeguards and opened the flood gates of hell to allow speculation of insane proportions.

[freespark]

Violence while regretable appears to be the only solution to these problems, otherwise government would not constantly use it.

That said, much of the hysteria here in the states is being fueled by the health insurance industry they are paying republican operatives to be bussed in from out of state and disrupt things...they are also spreading huge amounts of disinfo. (they paid "grass roots" republican operatives to storm the recount in 2000 as well)

http://thinkprogress.org/2009/07/31/recess-harassment-memo/

HERE IS THE REAL DEAL..the multinational industries that control our government are :Health insurance/pharma, War industry (aka Defense contractors ), Big banking.They basically have been fiscally raping americans for 30 years to pay these big corporations..
(remember Bushy's $800 billion bail out? Remember Paulson and Bernanke threatening congress behind closed doors?)


What i am doing, and others also need to do..

START COMPILING A LIST
FIND OUT WHO THE MAJOR SHAREHOLDERS OF THESE FIRMS ARE.
Not the CEO's they are just front men...you want the MAJOR shareholders.
Start finding out addresses and pictures of faces.
When the SHTF these are the people who need to be corralled and locked up.


Unfortunately, the real truth is that most of these "tea party" republicans are pawns and dupes of the bug business cartels..I don't expect much from them excpet pandering to the power elite the way they always do.

Their party in particular has been responsible for some of the most heinous damage, deregulating a banking institution that prints money out of thin air for example..(if you are going to use fiat money, you better regulate the hell out of it)..
Gramm Leach Bliley for example reversed Depression era safeguards and opened the flood gates of hell to allow speculation of insane proportions.

Great post.

[branjo]

civil war would be lights out for freedom.
the us citizens cant possibly win by force.

if the ppl dont get educated even a win(no winners in wars)wouldnt help.

Exactly!

People thinking that their 2nd amendment peashooters being any more than a nuisance are kidding themselves.

The people are being squeezed into making the first move, this is what will seal their fate, its obvious the PTB can't move until this happens, then they will be completely justified in the homegrown terrorist bullshit law.

No matter how much you want to kick the shit out of the PTB, that's exactly how they want you to react, their version of the NWO depends on it, the protesters and militia are just speeding things along. The constitution although a very seemingly "for the people" document, is a ticking time bomb and has patiently waited for the right time. The threat of its removal or steady dismantling of it will anger people immensely.

Maybe its inevitable that it happens this way, maybe there is no point in fighting the NWO, everyone should be aware of it yes, but calling to action hasn't exactly got a proven record for success. When we look at every war as a artificial confrontation, even the ones that look like victory are just setups for the next one down the line, until we are at the stage when we say "oh please no more wars we will do anything for peace" and we are fucked then too, damn if we do and damn if we don't.

The NWO what ever way they want it to happen will happen and there is nothing you can do about that, the only thing we can do is deal with it when it comes because right now its all "If's" and "maybe's". People are anxious about it, people are ready to fight tooth and nail but they haven't got a clue who the enemy really is. Ultimately we the people are our worst enemy, human emotion is the only thing we need to learn how to control, without us reacting like excited monkeys at the zoo there is no way they can excuse the reaction of rounding people up as trouble makers and locking them up, if there is no trouble makers in the destructive sense.

What we need to be is motionless with nerves of steel and an unflinching stubbornness to comply, we just stop everything, its the only way to power down the corrupt system, a world wide strike. No buying no selling no working no sending your kids to school, we don't need to starve or anything, just for one week the people of the world do nothing, one week would send a shiver down the backs of the money whores. When wall street starts to panic then they will have to bend to the will of the people.It won't happen over night but sooner or later they will get the message, treat the people like shit and you don't make no money off them.

The only power we need is the power they "give" to us, this is the joke in our faces, every single day we have had the power to stop what ever it is they are doing, the illegal wars are funded by our ignorance as consumers, we keep buying Oil so we fund Oil wars, we keep buying Drugs so we are funding the drug wars, we keep opting for insane fashions so we fund the sweat shops all over the world etc etc etc.

We are the problem not the NWO, we need to just stop buying the shit that we know we don't need, and its bloody hard to do that because we never communicate in the right way with each other. If we could all use the internet to organize a date to just "Stop" even for one day it might upset the profit margins enough for them to say "oh shit, what do you want?"

And if they resort to the same shit then we call another strike and another until they are so much in debt themselves that the dominoes start to fall by the very chains they made for us, Money.

Sometimes I just get frustrated as hell and I know deep down this is how they want me to feel so I do something stupid verbally or physically so they can react like they have the moral high ground. If we do nothing at all then how can we expect change, if we react by demonstrating on the streets, it will in no doubt be forced into a riot situation "by them" and again we loose. If we take up arms against them they they rub their hands together like its bloody Christmas, again damned if you do and damned if you don't.

The “Second American Revolution” will be the second buttfucking America has given itself for nothing in return. It will just usher in a new era of the people thinking they won their freedom and they relax and then the people who are under scrutiny now will be allowed to relax and step up the control behind closed doors. Maybe if we just get used to the tension and wait them out by not reacting, they might be the ones to loose control make the first rash move.

I mean if they just put soldiers on the streets and start to round people up, then fighting back will be warranted and the news of rebellion will spread around the world to other nations and maybe something good can come of it, I think though they probably have this all figured out too.

Sorry I am just ranting again, bloody bad habit of mine lately.

[waiting41]

Funny, it seems to me to more closely resemble the Civil War. I know for a fact that there is a lot of racism involved in this. And class warfare and cultural issues underlying the discontent with government. They weren't rising up under Bush and his rampant spending because he wasn't trying to spread the wealth around. That is a big no-no for the right.

[motleyhoo]

Amazing how when people riot against the regime in Iran they are fighting for for 'freedom' and thier rights and what not.... they are herioc blah fucking blah...but when the US populace rise up and have a voice it is considered 'militia activity'.

Fucking media scum bags....i hate them.

/Rant.

It's just calling Iraqis fighting occupiers on their own soil "insurgents", as if we wouldn't do the same thing if someone invaded our lands.

I am seriously considering arming myself. I just need to decide what weapon to get, a handgun, a rifle, or both.

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[ben black]

Anyone that has read Naomi Klein's "Shock Doctrine" will instantly recognise the patterns here.

The economy is battered
The government and banks borrow huge amounts which is laid on the population
Property devalues and jobs are lost
The population begin to voice dissent so the police and armed forces are mobilized
Hyperinflation kicks in and the IMF or World Bank get involved
Money is borrowed on the condition that anything profitable that is state owned is privatised
The main dissenters are made examples of ( dissappearances and killings)
Massive changes are enforced as a solution whilst the population are in shock ( In Chile this was Pinochets army takeover and the roundup, torture and killings of dissenters that was the shock. 9-11 could be seen as the first American shock. The economic shock is current. The police state and roundup of the most vocal critics is the next shock to be inflicted)


Look at Chile under Pinochet as prime example. Look at Argentina. Look at Bolivia. Look at Guatemala. Look at Russia. Look at Poland. Look at Iraq.

Look at the USA...

There may be a "second revolution". As in all the above cases, the general population becomes aware - too late - of what was going on and voice dissent. The government use the police, army and a network of informers to round up the "troublemakers" who are then silenced - often forever. To end the violence the government offers a solution - in the USA's current case it is probably going to be the NAU and the Amero. If the population don't go for it, further violence and bloodshed will be inflicted until the solution is accepted.

The UK is experiencing the same thing but it seems to be a little more subtle than the US governments open demolition.

Anyone who has not read this book can get it in w*t*rst*n*s for 7 or 8 quid.

or here as a pdf.

[smoke n mirrors]

Venezuela under Cahvez turned the tide and so did Bolivia under Evo Morales. Which goes to show that the people hold the true power, and are in charge of their own destiny.

The people of the US are going to take this shit laying down?

The US government governs by force, to think any major change will come about with out a fight seems misguided. The so called elite, only know how to maintain control through cheating, bullying and butchering those who stand in their way.

It seems that there will be a fight whether people want it or not. There is no exit strategy or lawful means of protest. They can't vote for anyone that would make a difference. They have been totally let down, by their representatives and there is no means by which to counter balance the corporate corruption, dominating the political system.

Are these people going to walk away, from what they have achieved and let the people take the reins? Or will the people, have to take the initiative and claw back what has been stolen from them, and right the wrongs of the few?

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[hadabusa]

what have they achieved?
:confused::confused:

yes the puppetmasters plan if they will fcuk or rape the ppl.


hm, tought about viloent revolution scenario.
it should be possible to the ppl to remain standing.
but at horrible cost.

menen(arg)just flew away, it worked well there(peacefull).
but theres no way obama can just leave.

looks like police is in favor of ppl.
its something.

[largejack]

I sincerely hope there isn't a violent revolution. There is enough bloodshed in the world as it is. I don't know what goes through the minds of those who think it's a good idea. Militants or not, they stand little chance of actually putting up a good fight. A lot has changed since the days of the American revolution and civil war era. The technological gap between the people and government is astronomical. There would be no home field advantage because both sides would know the land inside and out.

Even if many of the U.S armed forces and police were to join the people fighting, the government could simply hire foreign mercenaries. They haven't been inviting foreign troops here for joint training exercises for nothing. If there is any hope at taking America from the big corporations, bankers, and self-proclaimed elitists, it will have to be through nonviolence and legality. Using their own system against them is the only way I foresee anything working. Violent reactions only give them justification for using excessive force, and a way and means to issue marshal law. Anyone not wanting to see their 'new world order' brought to fruition, would be wise to not play into their expectations.

Agreed, mass refusal to cooperate would be a thousand times more successful.

[reptileslayer]

civil war would be lights out for freedom.
the us citizens cant possibly win by force.

if the ppl dont get educated even a win(no winners in wars)wouldnt help.
Yes they can if they get into the heads of their military sons fathers daughters etc, then the government will have a lot less to fight with right? this is a big part of breaking the NWO complex down.

[mind1universe]

It's important we center and keep calm.

You have to be aware this is what they want. The more chaos and riots the better. Because it means they are in control of you how you react. Violence will only lead to deaths.

This is like a home situation where you have major dissagreements with your family on many issues. The way to go about this is to be self honest, self responsible and self respectful when bringing your position forward.

Having a "calm riot" works far more efficient than a violent riot. Imagine how the police would act to a peacekeeping riot. People walking calm and towards the llight. This energy cannot be defeated when the systems fights you;)


I've said it here before the way to do this, is gather tmillions of people in around the world, and make a circle around the Whitehouse, make a circle around the Vatican and make a circle around the city of London and just tsfisyr your energy around the elite. Take back the power.

That is all you have to do.

The powers of be are scared out of their minds now.

[655321]

I saw the militia story on CNN today.

[mind1universe]

Remember freedom is the greatest feeling in the universe

Because it brings the three sacred points to your life at one.

Love

Light

Free will.

YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.

The bravery Dieing for it, proves you have all the freedom there is.;)

YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.

What will you do with freedom?

[mind1universe]

I saw the militia story on CNN today.

STOP watching CNN, do you not get it

This is how the elites play the scenes they want to project in the world


Jesus christ:mad: STOP watching the shit.

[synergy777]

i am shocked at the level of propaganda the americans have, it really is a controlled society.

the americans, well the ones i saw on newsnight reports eg town hall meetings, were absolutely tragic, one woman was comparing a national health service, as tip toe into a socialist/communist state eg russia.

are americans really this uneducated with regards to politics, are americans really this selfish, this greedy. the amount of oppostion i have witnessed to a national health service that would help everyone is shocking.

americans actually do not want poor people to have a free health service, its vile, vulgar and fascist.

i thank god for living in england, with its national health service, where help is offered to all. at least us english, are civilised to a degree, where we look after our society, americans are making themselves look really bad/selfish, with this opposition to national healthcare.

america claims itself to be a christian society, when its frankly nowhere near christian or democratic, or civilised. if americans can't look after eachother, help their fellow americans, then what are americans really about, its a sad day for america.

america is a nation for the rich, for good health care, for good education you need to be rich, the common man of america, is the worker for the rich man.

us english often complain about our country, but thats because we don't recognise the brilliance, intelligence and damn right awesomeness of our country england. compared to any other country in the world, we are miles ahead.

us in the uk, are really lucky, we should appreaciate our countrires more than we do.

be proud.

[655321]

I like watching CNN while I post on the internets.

[mikey mikey]

i am shocked at the level of propaganda the americans have, it really is a controlled society.

the americans, well the ones i saw on newsnight reports eg town hall meetings, were absolutely tragic, one woman was comparing a national health service, as tip toe into a socialist/communist state eg russia.

are americans really this uneducated with regards to politics, are americans really this selfish, this greedy. the amount of oppostion i have witnessed to a national health service that would help everyone is shocking.

americans actually do not want poor people to have a free health service, its vile, vulgar and fascist.

i thank god for living in england, with its national health service, where help is offered to all. at least us english, are civilised to a degree, where we look after our society, americans are making themselves look really bad/selfish, with this opposition to national healthcare.

america claims itself to be a christian society, when its frankly nowhere near christian or democratic, or civilised. if americans can't look after eachother, help their fellow americans, then what are americans really about, its a sad day for america.

america is a nation for the rich, for good health care, for good education you need to be rich, the common man of america, is the worker for the rich man.

us english often complain about our country, but thats because we don't recognise the brilliance, intelligence and damn right awesomeness of our country england. compared to any other country in the world, we are miles ahead.

us in the uk, are really lucky, we should appreaciate our countrires more than we do.

be proud.

excellent post. and the US media machine - with the help of the Heritage Foundation - are now launching a propoganda war on our NHS, spreading lies and rumours. If the PTB ever get their World Government, we can kiss goodbye to health care for the poor.

[mind1universe]

I like watching CNN while I post on the internets.

Then you are clearly foolish.:rolleyes:


Your the reason why there is a facist state because your watching what they project.


I have no belief people like you.

[655321]

I'm gonna turn on the TV right now just to piss you off.

[mind1universe]

No your the exact reason why there is a facist state and why the government take control of you

Because you act like a 5 year old, who needs to be corrected.

[breezinreezin]

It's important we center and keep calm.

You have to be aware this is what they want. The more chaos and riots the better. Because it means they are in control of you how you react. Violence will only lead to deaths.

This is like a home situation where you have major dissagreements with your family on many issues. The way to go about this is to be self honest, self responsible and self respectful when bringing your position forward.

Having a "calm riot" works far more efficient than a violent riot. Imagine how the police would act to a peacekeeping riot. People walking calm and towards the llight. This energy cannot be defeated when the systems fights you;)


I've said it here before the way to do this, is gather tmillions of people in around the world, and make a circle around the Whitehouse, make a circle around the Vatican and make a circle around the city of London and just tsfisyr your energy around the elite. Take back the power.

That is all you have to do.

The powers of be are scared out of their minds now.

I agree with you to a degree, but remeber Kent State University in 1970 when peaceful protesters had 67 live round fired at them, killing 4 students and injuring 9 others, one of whom was paralysed as a result. Frankly it's to Americas everlasting shame that that event passed without the country coming to a standstill by outraged Americans.

Peaceful non-cooperation is very powerful and can be effective if enough people can be convinced to join in and bring the country to a halt. However it can happen that peaceful protesters will be provoked and brutalised and I don't know about you, but I won't be able to sit waving a flower if that happens.

[mind1universe]

I agree with you to a degree, but remeber Kent State University in 1970 when peaceful protesters had 67 live round fired at them, killing 4 students and injuring 9 others, one of whom was paralysed as a result. Frankly it's to Americas everlasting shame that that event passed without the country coming to a standstill by outraged Americans.

Peaceful non-cooperation is very powerful and can be effective if enough people can be convinced to join in and bring the country to a halt. However it can happen that peaceful protesters will be provoked and brutalised and I don't know about you, but I won't be able to sit waving a flower if that happens.


But remember those who walk in peace are at peace with themselves. If you understand that we are all connected and we don't actually die but the body,

Then all of us can take this walk, and the opponent will run out of bullets.

There is more of us than them, and they are already fallling into a heap.

We just need people to cop on now. If you master the power to be at peace within, the gunman cannot shoot you ;) For the universe only mirrors what you are inside.

[synergy777]

excellent post. and the US media machine - with the help of the Heritage Foundation - are now launching a propoganda war on our NHS, spreading lies and rumours. If the PTB ever get their World Government, we can kiss goodbye to health care for the poor.

i feel sorry for good americans, they are the silent majority.

how can people on a ethical level, on a spiritual/religous level, oppose free health care, oppose free education, oppose civil rights, personal liberty/freedom/equality etc.

its the clear proof that americans really value their money/taxes more than other people, its sad, money is everything for them.

americans are showing their lack of class, compassion, intelligence. they are living up to their worldview, eg greedy, souless, self serving money grabbers.

you would think that people would believe in democracy, healthcare, education, liberty for all. they hark on about these ideals, but when it starts to hurt their pocket, these lofty ideals are deemed too expensive.

.....the price of everything, and the value of nothing, sums up their oppostion to the health care bill.

as the best country in the world in their eyes, shouldn't they lead the way, be an example to evryone, they seem to want the reputation, but not actually live up to it. they can talk the talk, but cannot walk the walk.

england/uk really is the best place in the world, we just need better weather, lol

america, you need to stand up, to step up to the plate, and deliver free health care to all. after all in england we have both free health care and private, the two sectors exist side by side.

[mind1universe]

as the best country in the world in their eyes, shouldn't they lead the way, be an example to evryone, they seem to want the reputation, but not actually live up to it. they can talk the talk, but cannot walk the walk.

england/uk really is the best place in the world, we just need better weather, lol



You need your head examined.
Firstly AMERICA AND UK are governed and connected by the same elites:rolleyes:. They have the same global agenda. The ruling elites of rothschild and other rulling illuminated ones are related to the royalty of England.


I think England is just as bad and I would put England in the same bracket, simply because you made such an idiotic comment such as above. You work sweat and tiresome hours to give the Queen a great life.


England is no where near any scale to look upon as a great country, its laughable to be honest. Now don't get me wrong I like english people. I don't put people into redicolous labels and borders as you have done above.

Please re read your post and become self aware of the bullshit you seem to have just run from your mouth.


You also need to remove the ideology that everything is based and judged by country. Good christ this crap is annoying. But to make a concise point. Countries, money and borders are only deceptions to the mind. Fighting for your country does not mean fighting for your country for the country owns you anyway and you going fighting for a country means your fighting for a ruler who again owns you already.

[synergy777]

You need your head examined.
Firstly AMERICA AND UK are governed and connected by the same elites:rolleyes:. They have the same global agenda. The ruling elites of rothschild and other rulling illuminated ones are related to the royalty of England.


I think England is just as bad and I would put England in the same bracket, simply because you made such an idiotic comment such as above. You work sweat and tiresome hours to give the Queen a great life.


England is no where near any scale to look upon as a great country, its laughable to be honest. Now don't get me wrong I like english people. I don't put people into redicolous labels and borders as you have done above.

Please re read your post and become self aware of the bullshit you seem to have just run from your mouth.

you are free to have your opinion, and you are free to express yourself in the vulgar manner you have, i admire your open and frank statements.

as i am a newbie to this nwo, please explain to me the rothschilds, nwo, etc, lol

if you don't like england, then no ones stopping you leaving bro, lol.

also please don't blaspheme, its juvenile and unecessary, you really must learn to control yourself, so much anger, its not good, lol.

with regards to your view on countries, its semantics, dear boy, as one doesn't know the protestors by name, one chooses to use their nationality.

[freespark]

No your the exact reason why there is a facist state and why the government take control of you

Because you act like a 5 year old, who needs to be corrected.

Woah there...just because he watches CCN doesn't mean he is being 'brainwashed' by it.

I don't watch Mainstream news but when i do...i like to see through the bullshit and take note of the subtle 'fear mongering - Gov ass kissing etc'.

Seriously..if he is on this forum the guy must at least be semi-aware that the MSM sprout utter crap most of the time.

[mind1universe]

you are free to have your opinion, and you are free to express yourself in the vulgar manner you have, i admire your open and frank statements.

as i am a newbie to this nwo, please explain to me the rothschilds, nwo, etc, lol

if you don't like england, then no ones stopping you leaving bro, lol.


Fair enough, but I stated facts.

You don't make formations of opinions on the state of the world by ONE country. For the state of the world relies on all that is ON this world.


It is fallible to state ONE country is the best example to follow. For this is the reason is why we don't lead. Always one power to overtake the other. It's Rome all over again.

England is not the best example
America is not the best example
Jamica is not the best example


you are the example, and you make the best of it.


Countries are governed by a hierarchy of rulers and you are following as they want you to be. This is no good example, for this does not represent who you are. As for following orders and been blinded by the system, it would mean America, England are the worst in this regard. As for what we believe, anyone who is a Roman catholic will also be in this category.

Rome = governs religion
London = governs monetary circulation
USA = the phyiscal power

The three forms that keep the control, and your living in it Synergy777. Wake up.

So I guess people have learnt another vailuble lesson, the delusion of fighting and following a piece of land. When nobody actually owns the world but the whole universe itself.

Power on earth is such a great deception used to gain more power, ironic eh.

[synergy777]

Fair enough, but I stated facts.

You don't make formations of opinions on the state of the world by ONE country. For the state of the world relies on all that is ON this world.


It is fallible to state ONE country is the best example to follow. For this is the reason is why we don't lead. Always one power to overtake the other. It's Rome all over again.

England is not the best example
America is not the best example
Jamica is not the best example


you are the example, and you make the best of it.


Countries are governed by a hierarchy of rulers and you are following as they want you to be. This is no good example, for this does not represent who you are.

So I guess people have learnt another vailuble lesson, the delusion of fighting and following a piece of land. When nobody actually owns the world but the whole universe itself.

Power on earth is such a great deception used to gain more power, ironic eh.

cool, i admire your fire, it reminds me of myself, when i was new to this stuff, the good old days.

no country is perfect, but england, is underrated.

i feel that americans, need to stand up and voice their opinions, they should unite and have a free national health care service.

[breezinreezin]

america is a nation for the rich, for good health care, for good education you need to be rich, the common man of america, is the worker for the rich man.

us english often complain about our country, but thats because we don't recognise the brilliance, intelligence and damn right awesomeness of our country england. compared to any other country in the world, we are miles ahead.

us in the uk, are really lucky, we should appreaciate our countrires more than we do.

be proud.

I don't think the Americans would be wise to model a health service on the NHS. I also don't think they're in a position to knock it either, not with their current system. I mean to be in a situation whereby you're in agony with some injury or illness and then to be asked if you have valid health insurance, is not a compassionate system. They need to make changes, but not at the expense of the excellent, innovative, technological advanced,facilities they have. There needs to be a compromise.

The socialised, centralised healthcare that is the NHS, as it stands, is a massive, massive drain on the finances of the UK. It is a behemoth that gobbles money up ravenously just to keep the engine spinning. It's administrative nightmare, with tiers of high salaried middle managers, who wouldn't get a look in in the private sector. It's subject to constant political manipulation and interference. It's pushed one way and then another; molded in this form and then that, by whatever government gets in power.The expertise that exists within the system rarely get to apply their knowledge for the good of the service, unlike America. That's why many Americans don't want a system like it.

I say all of this, but I'd rather have the NHS than an American system any day. But I also recognise that the NHS as it stands will have to change too. It is too big a financial drain and is too inefficient. I think we need to meet in the middle somewhere.

[freespark]

cool, i admire your fire, it reminds me of myself, when i was new to this stuff, the good old days.

no country is perfect, but england, is underrated.

i feel that americans, need to stand up and voice their opinions, they should unite and have a free national health care service.

Our NHS is not free though is it....everyone who works pays NI which i assume is used to fund the NHS.

[breezinreezin]

But remember those who walk in peace are at peace with themselves. If you understand that we are all connected and we don't actually die but the body,

Then all of us can take this walk, and the opponent will run out of bullets.

There is more of us than them, and they are already fallling into a heap.

We just need people to cop on now. If you master the power to be at peace within, the gunman cannot shoot you ;) For the universe only mirrors what you are inside.

And you've mastered this power have you. These are just words. Come back and say all this when you've been shot, tortured, pushed to the limits emotionally, etc. You just sound like a new-age dreamer here.

[synergy777]

I don't think the Americans would be wise to model a health service on the NHS. I also don't think they're in a position to knock it either, not with their current system. I mean to be in a situation whereby you're in agony with some injury or illness and then to be asked if you have valid health insurance, is not a compassionate system. They need to make changes, but not at the expense of the excellent, innovative, technological advanced,facilities they have. There needs to be a compromise.

The socialised, centralised healthcare that is the NHS, as it stands, is a massive, massive drain on the finances of the UK. It is a behemoth that gobbles money up ravenously just to keep the engine spinning. It's administrative nightmare, with tiers of high salaried middle managers, who wouldn't get a look in in the private sector. It's subject to constant political manipulation and interference. It's pushed one way and then another; molded in this form and then that, by whatever government gets in power.The expertise that exists within the system rarely get to apply their knowledge for the good of the service, unlike America. That's why many Americans don't want a system like it.

I say all of this, but I'd rather have the NHS than an American system any day. But I also recognise that the NHS as it stands will have to change too. It is too big a financial drain and is too inefficient. I think we need to meet in the middle somewhere.

i agree, i have relatives who work in the nhs, eg surgeons, the nhs needs to be overhauled, eg less middle management, more medical professionals. its become too beaucractic. it needs to be better managed, but with all organisations this big and this complex, mismanagement will naturally occur, but its still worth having.

lets be frank, the whole country is mismanaged, from the nhs, schools, govt etc.

however they all could be improved, with the right people in the pivotal roles.

[mind1universe]

Woah there...just because he watches CCN doesn't mean he is being 'brainwashed' by it.

I don't watch Mainstream news but when i do...i like to see through the bullshit and take note of the subtle 'fear mongering - Gov ass kissing etc'.

Seriously..if he is on this forum the guy must at least be semi-aware that the MSM sprout utter crap most of the time.

Maybe so, but is their any real benefit in giving it the extra attention?

I used to do it Freespark, but I have found it still pollutes your mind. I have found when you completely rise above it you actually break free completely.
For example you maybe AWARE of the mis info, but now that you have retained it, what do you do with this misinformation, this wasted energy has to go somewhere.

I have done this for a few months, and looking back the less of the actual paying attention part helped me further. For example You or I can see Obama liying like hes got a blue ass when he doesn't, but what difference does it make to me or you. The only difference it made to me was that I wasted my own good time and energy to take note of it. This is the problem I'm trying to get through to you.

If you reaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaly paid attention to the media. You'd know that people who shout the most look for your attention. Who would that be? Washington no?. But do you really need to pay any more attention to this fact? If you just simply knew this, wouldn't you realise it's pointless listening to the elite because nearly everything they say is the exact opposite of how they act.

For example I watch about 2mins of News a week, But somehow I still hear the scandals, and guess whos in them? Obama. I don't watch Obama but hes in all the scandals why? How come I'm hearing it because people like you who think they are all aware and prepared but your still reacting To what they want. Instead of reading the lines of bullshit and getting cot up with it, ask yourself why is the man in the heat of all the media attention in the last 2 months and finally why are you listening to it.


The reason the Obama administration is now in almost every scandal because they are not getting enough attention from the public. That is it no other reason.
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How was their reaction to this?

Since they are now aware they not getting the world respected attention like they used too. So where are they now to look to for attentionThink[/[B][B], look and realise

It's local, national and now personal headlines . So you really need to re think the bigger picture and what is been played out. Problem, solution and reaction method.



Create a stir, how did they do this. Make chaos. How do we make chaos. You divide people. How did they divide people recently. What is one classic way to divide people. Colour and race. How did they do this.

Pick a black president, and start a Henry gate scandal. Since I have a powerful all seeing eye. I know the Henry gate scandal was staged and yes he was deliberately mis treated so the CIA could get a public outcry on the issue.

How did it work

You watched CNN, and took notes of the behavior and BAM within 2 minutes America is in chaos.


Could any of you see this?


So next time think about the level of energy you give the elites. Obama didn't call the police stupid because they were stupid. Obama called the police stupid, because he got a reaction from you.

[synergy777]

Our NHS is not free though is it....everyone who works pays NI which i assume is used to fund the NHS.

of course taxes pay for it, but least the treatments are open to you. they don't ask you to sign insurance forms, when you enter do you.

[breezinreezin]

i agree, i have relatives who work in the nhs, eg surgeons, the nhs needs to be overhauled, eg less middle management, more medical professionals. its become too beaucractic. it needs to be better managed, but with all organisations this big and this complex, mismanagement will naturally occur, but its still worth having.

lets be frank, the whole country is mismanaged, from the nhs, schools, govt etc.

however they all could be improved, with the right people in the pivotal roles.

Yep, I can't argue with that.

[mind1universe]

And you've mastered this power have you. These are just words. Come back and say all this when you've been shot, tortured, pushed to the limits emotionally, etc. You just sound like a new-age dreamer here.

I have all my life. I rise to every challenge. But remember your judging me personally when you haven't a clue of who I am. I have seen horrific tragedies in my life and lost those dear to me for the same exact reason to breakaway from fear, loss pain and hurt.. But the important thing I understand what life tells me and what I must do in life, so I will always follow up so I can grow and inspire others, for all of us are the one. I am not some dreamer, So pay more attention on how you judge others, because your really judging yourself.

It's about self empowerment and how you use it. This applies for everyone, no need to put the focus on me in a abrupt manner.

[mind1universe]

i agree, i have relatives who work in the nhs, eg surgeons, the nhs needs to be overhauled, eg less middle management, more medical professionals. its become too beaucractic. it needs to be better managed, but with all organisations this big and this complex, mismanagement will naturally occur, but its still worth having.

lets be frank, the whole country is mismanaged, from the nhs, schools, govt etc.

however they all could be improved, with the right people in the pivotal roles.


Look at your own avater. The matrix. The matrix owns you, it can mismanage, super manage, un manage, de manage,

It man-ages you.


Manage yourself, and you won't have this issue.

[breezinreezin]

I have all my life. I rise to every challenge. But remember your judging me personally when you haven't a clue of who I am. I have seen horrific tragedies in my life and lost those dear to me for the same exact reason to breakaway from fear, loss pain and hurt.. But the important thing I understand what life tells me and what I must do in life, so I will always follow up so I can grow and inspire others, for all of us are the one. I am not some dreamer, So pay more attention on how you judge others, because your really judging yourself.

It's about self empowerment and how you use it. This applies for everyone, no need to put the focus on me in a abrupt manner.

Then you need to raise your game my friend, if you'e manifesting an abrubt, judgemental entity like me in your life. There's much worse than me to come.

[synergy777]

Look at your own avater. The matrix. The matrix owns you, it can mismanage, super manage, un manage, de manage,

It man-ages you.


Manage yourself, and you won't have this issue.


yes the matrix owns me, i am the matrix, ffs, the matrix is a film, its symbolic.

i am not enlightend, i not endowed with super powers, i am a slave to the system, i am man searching for truth, a soul who feels disconnected from god/source, a man wants freedom/peace for all. i am imperfect, i am a soul/spirit having a human experience.

but what i don't fear is death, what i don't fear is facing the evil elite. i face them by myself without god/creator helping me. i do not mind standing alone, as i stand alone now without connection/help from god, without enlightement, without the truth.. thus i stand against them with nothing and no one.

i stand alone, i stand for everyone.

i don't trust anyone or any god,

i am searching for connection with god, searching for the truth, searching for myself.

-----------------------------

the don-killuminati, kill the illuminati - 2pac

[freespark]

i agree, i have relatives who work in the nhs, eg surgeons, the nhs needs to be overhauled, eg less middle management, more medical professionals. its become too beaucractic. it needs to be better managed, but with all organisations this big and this complex, mismanagement will naturally occur, but its still worth having.

lets be frank, the whole country is mismanaged, from the nhs, schools, govt etc.

however they all could be improved, with the right people in the pivotal roles.

Agreed.

Wherever and whenever the tax payer foots the bill for ANYTHING there is a very long line of very deep pockets that line up at the trough with thier backslapping Government pals to gorge themselves until the fat cunts can't even walk anymore.

Rape the wealth of the people any which fucking way you can.
Thats how it works.

[mind1universe]

.

i am not enlightend, i not endowed with super powers, i am a slave to the system, i am man searching for truth, a soul who feels disconnected from god/source, a man wants freedom/peace for all. i am imperfect, i am a soul/spirit having a human experience.

But you can be.


but what i don't fear is death, what i don't fear is facing the evil elite. i face them by myself without god/creator helping me. i do not mind standing alone, as i stand alone now without connection/help from god, without enlightement, without the truth.. thus i stand against them with nothing and no one.

Connection with god, means connection with you. Thats all it is.


i stand alone, i stand for everyone.

i don't trust anyone or any god,

I need to point out this error and hypocrisy. Bear with me, I just want to help you understand how your projecting confusion within yourself.

You state "I stand alone, I stand for everyone"

"I don't trust anyone or any god"

The standing for you and all, is correct. But you cannot do it, if you don't trust you or the god within you. If you don't trust yourself, how can you trust your path?

i am searching for connection with god, searching for the truth, searching for myself. Yes it's something we all do "searching"

Searching in the phonebook, looking for someone name, but your really looking for your name everywhere you go. Look within you.

[octopusrex]

http://yonkerstribune.typepad.com/yonkers_tribune/2009/08/the-second-american-revolution-has-begun-by-gerald-celente.html

Kingston, NY -- The natives are restless. The third shot of the “Second American Revolution” has been fired. History is being made. But just as with the first two shots, the third shot is not being heard.
America is seething. Not since the Civil War has anything like this happened. But the protests are either being intentionally downplayed or ignorantly misinterpreted.

The first shot was fired on April 15, 2009. Over 700 anti-tax rallies and “Tea Parties” erupted nationwide. Rather than acknowledge their significance, the general media either ignored or ridiculed both protests and protestors, playing on “tea bagging” for its sexual innuendo.

Initially President Obama said he was unaware of the tea parties. The White House later warned they could “mutate” into something “unhealthy.”

Shot #2 was fired on the Fourth of July, when throngs of citizens across the nation gathered to again protest “taxation without representation.” And as before, the demonstrations were branded right-wing mischief and dismissed.

The third volley, fired in early August, was aimed point blank at Senators and House members pitching President Obama’s health care reform package to constituents. In fiery town hall meetings, enraged citizens shouted down their elected representatives. It took a strong police presence and/or burly bodyguards to preserve a safe physical space between the politicians and irate townspeople.

The White House and the media have labeled protestors “conservative fringe elements,” or as players in staged events organized by Republican operatives that have been egged on by Fox news and right-wing radio show hosts.

In regard to this latest wave of outbursts, health industry interests opposed to any reform are also being blamed for inciting the public. But organized or spontaneous is not the issue. While most protestors exhibit little grasp of the complex 1000 page health care reform document (that nary a legislator has read either), their emotion is clearly real and un-staged.

Rightly or wrongly, the legislation is regarded as yet another straw on the already overloaded camel’s back. A series of gigantic, unpopular government-imposed (but taxpayer-financed) bailouts, buyouts, rescue and stimulus packages have been stuffed down the gullet of Americans. With no public platform to voice their opposition, options for citizens have been limited to fruitless petitions, e-mails and phone calls to Congress … all fielded by anonymous staff underlings.

Now, with Congress in recess and elected representatives less than a stone’s throw away, the public is exploding. The devil is not in the details of the heath care reform, the devil is the government mandating health care. Regardless of how the plan is pitched or what is being promised, to the public the legislation is yet another instance of big government taking another piece out of their lives and making them pay for it; again telling them what they can or cannot do.

Though in its early stages, the “Second American Revolution” is underway. Yet, what we forecast will become the most profound political trend of the century – the trend that will change the world – is still invisible to the same experts, authorities and pundits who didn’t see the financial crisis coming until the bottom fell out of the economy.

Trend Forecast: Conditions will continue to deteriorate. The global economy is terminally ill. The recession is in a brief remission, not the early stages of recovery. Cheap money, easy credit and unrestrained borrowing brought on an economic crisis that cannot be cured by monetary and fiscal policies that promote more cheap money, easy credit and unrestrained borrowing.

Nevertheless, Washington will continue to intervene, tax and exert control. Protests will escalate and riots will follow.

Fourth Shot of the “Second American Revolution”: While there are many wild cards that could light the fuse, The Trends Research Institute forecasts that if the threat of government-forced Swine Flu vaccinations is realized, it will be the fourth shot. Tens of millions will fight for their right to remain free and unvaccinated.

Publisher’s Note: The power of the Internet and new technologies is inexorably fermenting the “Second American Revolution.” However widespread and emotionally charged, had the tax rallies, tea parties and healthcare reform protests occurred in years past, they might have been covered by the local media, but might not have made national headline news and thus would have died stillborn.

Now, with the ubiquitous camera-equipped cell phone, universal access to YouTube, and millions of twitters and tweets, the uprisings cannot be ignored, contained, managed, spun or edited down. The revolutionary fervor will prove contagious.

Can anything stop it?

Trend Forecast: Before the momentum of the “Second American Revolution” becomes unstoppable, it could be derailed through some false flag event designed to deceive the public, or a genuine event or crisis capable of rallying the entire nation behind the President. In a worst-case scenario, according to Trends Research Institute Director, Gerald Celente, “Given the pattern of governments to parlay egregious failures into mega-failures, the classic trend they follow, when all else fails, is to take their nation to war."

A false flag attempt, a genuine crisis, or a declaration of war, may slow the momentum of the “Second American Revolution,” but nothing will stop it.


Learn more about The Trends Research Institute by visiting the www.TrendsResearch.com Website.

Actually, it's a little more like the 'Civil War' with state's rights at the core of the issues defining the conflict.

My hope is that the saner minds will prevail during these troubles and the entire affair will be handled by non-violence, like with Ghandi and MLK.

[mind1universe]

cool, i admire your fire, it reminds me of myself, when i was new to this stuff, the good old days.

no country is perfect, but england, is underrated.

i feel that americans, need to stand up and voice their opinions, they should unite and have a free national health care service.


A country was never designed to be perfect.

A country was not designed to be reality. The borders and lines are there to make you realise reality of what temps and bounds you. This reality is a manifestation of you experiencing the parimeters of you in this existence. Perfection is completion of order and the one in the universe.

I can't stand when people bring that up "but I'm not perfect anyway" or "we maybe not perfect"

Perfection WAS never the design on this world


Countries are made up by rulers, that is it. The more I think you talk on this topic, the more I believe you don't really get the symbolism behind a favourite movie of yours the matrix.

You don't need a health care system, if we realised that the problem, is society not the health of you.


The health of you is your responsibility. The immune system is weak because you have been taught to depend on the system. If anyone can try figure it out. I will be very impresses. It's like police tackling crime. If you gave people freedom and love they wouldn't fight the system would they. So the system continues to control and divide people, and still doesn't and never will solve crime.

The most powerful people on this planet know exactly what I'm talking about. They know what causes cancer, disease, crime, abuse, rape, war.


You.

The battle is over you. The power of be have the power of you.

So it all comes down to you.:)

[freespark]

A country was never designed to be perfect.

A country was not designed to be reality. The borders and lines are there to make you realise reality of what temps and bounds you.


Countries are made up by rulers, that is it. The more I think you talk on this topic, the more I believe you don't really get the symbolism behind a favourite movie of yours the matrix.

You don't need a health care system, if we realised that the problem, is society not the health of you.


The health of you is your responsibility. The immune system is weak because you have been taught to depend on the system. If anyone can try figure it out. I will be very impresses. It's like police tackling crime. If you gave people freedom and love they wouldn't fight the system would they. So the system continues to control and divide people, and still doesn't and never will solve crime.

The most powerful people on this planet know exactly what I'm talking about. They know what causes cancer, disease, crime, abuse, rape, war.


You.

The battle is over you. The power of be have the power of you.

So it all comes down to you.:)

I understand what you are saying here...i think this way as well. Why do people kill, why do people steel, why do we get sick, cancer etc? They are driven to it...if the system worked like it should (society) there would be no lack, no poor, no crime, no sick etc etc...when i say no i suppose i mean minimal as you will still have these issues but not nearly as severe.

The problem is...with all these problems society tries to 'fix them, manage them, treat them....' but we NEVER LOOK AT THE ROOT OF THE WHOLE FUCKING PROBLEM. The problem lies in society itself and ultimately in us.

Take responsibility for yourself like you say.

Problem is...that is a huge fucking step to be taking for most people. We have been programmed to exist in this paradigm from day 1.

[mind1universe]

Back to the topic,


We are forgetting again.


If you want revolution, you have to ask yourself, how do I go about it. What do I want. Look around the world and come back to your own heart. What is it that we all do that gets us in this emotional state of unrest.

Is it ourselves that let us get this way.
Is is ourselves that put ourselves to the end of nowwhere to go
Is it ourselves we decieve?
Is it ourselves we harm?
Is it ourselves we disrespect.


No matter how frustrated we get, we have to understand this world holds 7biilion people and we can live in harmony. How do we live in harmony.


Start with the thought, desire and belief.


Take it around the world and it will come back to you.;)

[mind1universe]

I understand what you are saying here...i think this way as well. Why do people kill, why do people steel, why do we get sick, cancer etc? They are driven to it...if the system worked like it should (society) there would be no lack, no poor, no crime, no sick etc etc...when i say no i suppose i mean minimal as you will still have these issues but not nearly as severe.

The problem is...with all these problems society tries to 'fix them, manage them, treat them....' but we NEVER LOOK AT THE ROOT OF THE WHOLE FUCKING PROBLEM. The problem lies in society itself and ultimately in us.

Take responsibility for yourself like you say.

Problem is...that is a huge fucking step to be taking for most people. We have been programmed to exist in this paradigm from day 1.

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b107/tommie1/IlluminatiPyramid_001.jpg


Society is built on this. It is neither good or bad. The 6th density beings are clever masters of reality:D But yes I do understand their goals. What I will say just keep focusing on your development and how you empower yourself. Test and play with what you are and what you can be in this world ;). Best advice anyone can give you.

Rather than this MAN-AGE-MENT. I agree with your last point indefenatley but don't you know the truth? We made the choice to come here. Yes a really really chaotic society but based on very powerful ideals that have not been tested in earlier universe as this intensity. We are talking about beings of the 6th and 7th dimensional beings shaping our reality.

They gave you the challenge, for you to shape your own reality, through the projection and awareness given around you on this world



Yes the root of the problem is really us though not seeing us as we are or what we want to be lol:D. We keep pointing around at the reality of this matrix and the bad guy over there. But its US who we have to answer to at the end of the day.

The sun appears over the pyramid and you will know the truth.The circle will appear and the universal bounds of you will mirror the lenght and breath of this galaxy ;)

[hadabusa]

i am shocked at the level of propaganda the americans have, it really is a controlled society.

the americans, well the ones i saw on newsnight reports eg town hall meetings, were absolutely tragic, one woman was comparing a national health service, as tip toe into a socialist/communist state eg russia.

are americans really this uneducated with regards to politics, are americans really this selfish, this greedy. the amount of oppostion i have witnessed to a national health service that would help everyone is shocking.

americans actually do not want poor people to have a free health service, its vile, vulgar and fascist.

i thank god for living in england, with its national health service, where help is offered to all. at least us english, are civilised to a degree, where we look after our society, americans are making themselves look really bad/selfish, with this opposition to national healthcare.

america claims itself to be a christian society, when its frankly nowhere near christian or democratic, or civilised. if americans can't look after eachother, help their fellow americans, then what are americans really about, its a sad day for america.

america is a nation for the rich, for good health care, for good education you need to be rich, the common man of america, is the worker for the rich man.

us english often complain about our country, but thats because we don't recognise the brilliance, intelligence and damn right awesomeness of our country england. compared to any other country in the world, we are miles ahead.

us in the uk, are really lucky, we should appreaciate our countrires more than we do.

be proud.
the thing about america is true, cept its a republic,not a democracy.
thats a big difference.

uk best?lol.
look,i lived the and in other nations as well.
your statement is ridicolous.
you didnt list1reason why uk can claim supremacy.
because it cant,itsa shithole.
i can judge it,i lived in many different nations.not read in books, checked stats, seen on tv, or short vacation.
no, lived and stayed in places.
have you?
on what is your comparison based?

usa is an even bigger sewerdump,ill give you that.

[hadabusa]

i feel sorry for good americans, they are the silent majority.


good4you,i certainly dont.
yankistan has no military draft.
yet the empire has troops in 130plus bases everywhere.
how comes?

they have the audacity2call it foreign politics.

where i was born, theres that saying draft is 2dragging,2beating you.
yet my birthplace is called agressor.
:rolleyes:

furthermore, uk and usa have the same govt(the govt of the govt,you know this)
and uk best land ever theory,lol, even if it were true, go feel bad4the colonies you raped blind.

yeah, feeling bad4americans.
paybacks a mofo, the american bill is overdue.
nobody pity me when my bills stack up,but im not asking4pity.

america.lol.

[hadabusa]

I've said it here before the way to do this, is gather tmillions of people in around the world, and make a circle around the Whitehouse, make a circle around the Vatican and make a circle around the city of London and just tsfisyr your energy around the elite. Take back the power.


this is all.

cant happen before ppl get educated enough,tough

[clint_giles]

the only way this can be resolved by non-violence (which im sad to say is not gonna happen in the usa,to many people love their guns)

but the one way this will work peacefully is...EVERYONE needs to stop going to work and buy gas for atleast a month.....and then we can talk

[phemohilia]

As much as I'd like to see it happen, I can almost guarantee you that NO American will stop going to work and buying gas for a month, it just ain't gonna happen..... (Now, of the 300,000,000 +/- population, there may just be one or two, here and there that would have the cojones to do this, but even that would be a surprize...)

[mind1universe]

this is all.

cant happen before ppl get educated enough,tough


Its start with learning to get to know yourself.

Through knowing the self, you are aware, and you can make choices that are right for your own growth. Taking the stand is the choice to make if you want a better life for you and the world.

You don't really need a degree for it.


Getting a degree is a fuck up. It proves your owned again. For you live by the society which to is a fuck up. Creating problems, fixing problems, creating problems fixing problems. It never ends.


But people need to start fixing themselves.

[hadabusa]

Its start with learning to get to know yourself.

Through knowing the self, you are aware, and you can make choices that are right for your own growth. Taking the stand is the choice to make if you want a better life for you and the world.

You don't really need a degree for it.


Getting a degree is a fuck up. It proves your owned again. For you live by the society which to is a fuck up. Creating problems, fixing problems, creating problems fixing problems. It never ends.


But people need to start fixing themselves.
reading your posts is like a permanent dejavue experience.
youre making great sense, shame theres not more like you.
props.

if ppl would be educated(exactly,not degree bs), there wouldnt be no elite order.

its gonna take a while,id say.:)