Ron Paul--Illuminati Hand gestures??? [Archive]

chris

14-08-2007, 05:24 PM

Stop the video at 7:14

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jpnajrx7FGM

what does this mean???:confused:

I used to get worked up about this kind of stuff...It's just a product of popular culture...Like the peace sign came from Crowley as a victory sign to churchill but is still used today as a peace sign...The origins may be different but now it's just a popular sign.

Any kind of gestures are reviewed by conspiracy theorists but bodylanguage is the most powerful form of communication and when you are in front of thousands and they are all cheering you and you've seen other people pull that sign and it just gets put into your subconscious and I guess you respond...It's like a cliche, you know when your about to say one but then you've already said too much and have to follow it through.

umbrex

14-08-2007, 05:49 PM

I used to get worked up about this kind of stuff...It's just a product of popular culture...Like the peace sign came from Crowley as a victory sign to churchill but is still used today as a peace sign...The origins may be different but now it's just a popular sign.

Any kind of gestures are reviewed by conspiracy theorists but bodylanguage is the most powerful form of communication and when you are in front of thousands and they are all cheering you and you've seen other people pull that sign and it just gets put into your subconscious and I guess you respond...It's like a cliche, you know when your about to say one but then you've already said too much and have to follow it through.

Wrong..

The illuminati is responsible for everything!

I was making a steak one time, and guess what ...it started to take shape as a five pointed star. Clearly illuminati messing with my food.

And yes, it was soul-food!

raginggran

14-08-2007, 06:48 PM

http://images.cafepress.com/product/42787450_240x240_Front.jpg

Sign language that the deaf use.

It means

I LOVE YOU

;)

synergy777

14-08-2007, 06:58 PM

http://www.psalm9416.com/signsofsatan.htm

Love You, Devil?

The "El Diablo" hand sign often is con-fused with the deaf hand signal of the phrase, "I love you." While at first this appears an odd resemblance, we register an "ahh, I get it!" emotion when we discover that the person who invented, or created, the hand sign system for the deaf, Helen Keller, was herself an occultist and Theosophist. Did Keller purposely design the deaf's "I love you" sign to be such a remarkable imitation of the classic sign of Satan? Was Keller saying, basically, "I love you, Devil?" -Texe Marrs (See CODEX MAGICA).

"She invented over 60 different signs by which she could talk to her family before the age of seven. For example, if she wanted ice cream she would wrap her arms around herself and pretend to shiver." -SOURCE

archangel

14-08-2007, 07:02 PM

http://images.cafepress.com/product/42787450_240x240_Front.jpg

Sign language that the deaf use.

It means

I LOVE YOU

;)

what makes more sense....

a) He is telling all the deaf voters that he loves them

or

B) he is showing other members of secret orders that he is also apart of the brother hood

the hand sign he made obviously could have meant nothing and he didn't even know what he was doing but of the above to options (B) makes the more sense.

synergy777

14-08-2007, 07:04 PM

do you ignore my posts due to my ethnicity or what, check the link.

it explains all, this hand signal is old news, lol. maybe ron paul is the "good cop", you can't trust anyone.

chris

14-08-2007, 07:07 PM

Wrong..

The illuminati is responsible for everything!

I was making a steak one time, and guess what ...it started to take shape as a five pointed star. Clearly illuminati messing with my food.

And yes, it was soul-food!

Dude, the illuminati wasn't messing with your food. Clearly the cow was a double agent serving the meat and dairy industry as a patsy to convert freedom lovers into Satanic agents.

You think those slaughter houses are for food? Ha, ignorant fools…These are mind kontrol camps for suicide animals killing the enemy from within.

Now the Satanic cow meat is in your body trying to convert each of your cells to the nwo, only pectin can help you now my friend.

synergy777

14-08-2007, 07:08 PM

personally i would like to evolve to the point were i don't eat meat.

chris

14-08-2007, 07:12 PM

personally i would like to evolve to the point were i don't eat meat.

Why don't you just not eat meat?

Anders Lindman

14-08-2007, 07:14 PM

the hand sign he made obviously could have meant nothing and he didn't even know what he was doing but of the above to options (B) makes the more sense.

Or, it was the Illuminati remote control in action, a test to see if it was working property. Just kidding! :D

chris

14-08-2007, 07:17 PM

Or, it was the Illuminati remote control in action, a test to see if it was working property. Just kidding! :D

lol, maybe.

archangel

14-08-2007, 07:19 PM

what are you talking about? how did my post contradict what u showed? ignore you b/c of your ethnicity??? :confused::confused:

I agree with you on what u said.

I said it was either he did it by accident or it he did it to show he was part of some fraternity.

chris

14-08-2007, 07:21 PM

what are you talking about? how did my post contradict what u showed? ignore you b/c of your ethnicity??? :confused::confused:

I agree with you on what u said.

Who are you talking to?

synergy777

14-08-2007, 07:21 PM

umbrex

14-08-2007, 07:22 PM

what makes more sense....

a) He is telling all the deaf voters that he loves them

or

B) he is showing other members of secret orders that he is also apart of the brother hood

the hand sign he made obviously could have meant nothing and he didn't even know what he was doing but of the above to options (B) makes the more sense.

If he was an Illuminati proxy, why would he advocate to abolish the fed. Please ...do some research on the guy. He's not known as Dr. No for nothing.

And where the f... do i get some pectin ..i can feel the evil cells are taking over ...aaargh

Or maybe i'm just imagining wild and outrageous stuff built on another persons, equally silly opinions.

which reminds me........

synergy777

14-08-2007, 07:22 PM

arch my bad, i got a chip on both shoulders, lol

synergy777

14-08-2007, 07:23 PM

abolish the fed and replace it with what? another nwo non-fed, lol

umbrex

14-08-2007, 07:24 PM

chris

14-08-2007, 07:25 PM

the taste, i have soya, its not bad. my family is mostly vegetarian, i can easily see and feel the benefits after eating vegetarian food, its just animal likes. protein can be found in loads of other foods, pulses, etc. its just i need a full vegetraian factfile, one thats outline the transition strategy, protein altermnatives, what supplement, to take, then i could change.

they made vegetarain/soya curry, it tasted just like chicken, just as good, i was pleasantly surprised. the things about meat is the taste. organic meat is rare, and the rest is infected with chemcials, growth hormones, depleted levels of nutrients, antibiotics etc.

if i could find a good meat substitute eg qourn, soya, i would change no probz. i had the qourn suasages they taste cool. i don't eat pork or beef anymore, only chicken/turkey/lamb. i have rasta friends who are vegetarian, hindu/sikh friends who are vegetarian, they still socialise, have good times, great food. 3mths was the last time i had bacon, and felt weird after i ate it. so i get the turkey bacon not pork.

Go read 2tuffs site for some real good dietry advice...Go on video google and read 'heart attack proof,' real good info there as well...

Be careful with being vege, soya isn't a good source of protein and actually is toxic. You don't need any supplements, just get past the bias ingrained in people that you are loosing out being a vege/vegan, you actually assimiilate more since you will be eating less glue (especially if you vegan).

You need to do your research but 2tuff site is pretty simple.

umbrex

14-08-2007, 07:26 PM

abolish the fed and replace it with what? another nwo non-fed, lol

well im sure the average American would love to see his income tax going elsewhere then paying the interest on the debt.. just a wild shot in the fog..

and i'm sure there is another way of doing things then the way the fed are. why oppose to that.. really ?

the ron paul stuff is only hypothetical so far. i very much doubt if he will become a serious contender in the race for presidency

archangel

14-08-2007, 07:28 PM

the taste, i have soya, its not bad. my family is mostly vegetarian, i can easily see and feel the benefits after eating vegetarian food, its just animal likes. protein can be found in loads of other foods, pulses, etc. its just i need a full vegetraian factfile, one thats outline the transition strategy, protein altermnatives, what supplement, to take, then i could change.

they made vegetarain/soya curry, it tasted just like chicken, just as good, i was pleasantly surprised. the things about meat is the taste. organic meat is rare, and the rest is infected with chemcials, growth hormones, depleted levels of nutrients, antibiotics etc.

if i could find a good meat substitute eg qourn, soya, i would change no probz. i had the qourn suasages they taste cool. i don't eat pork or beef anymore, only chicken/turkey/lamb. i have rasta friends who are vegetarian, hindu/sikh friends who are vegetarian, they still socialise, have good times, great food. 3mths was the last time i had bacon, and felt weird after i ate it. so i get the turkey bacon not pork.

Problem is that most vegetable sources of protein are not complete proteins. They don't have the good amino acid profiles. I guess if you not an athlete or if you don't care about losing muscle mass this is not as big of a deal.

Fish,Turkey,chicken, and Whey protein Isolate are good sources of protein. Make up the rest of your diet as much fruits, vegetables as you can. Oh and don't forget the Olive oil, and Macademia nuts for fat!!!

I eat alot of Tilapia..

I a great quick nutrition meal is....

100% Dole Juice.....this stuff tastes amazing!! (measure out how much carbs u want)

Mixed with Ion exchange whey Isolate protein....(measure out how much u need)

and take a swig of olive oil or eat a handful of nuts (macadamia are the mos nutrient rich)....

You can take that down the hatch in 3 mintues and you just put a ton of quality nutrients into your body.

king

14-08-2007, 07:30 PM

Stop the video at 7:14

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jpnajrx7FGM

what does this mean???:confused:

what are we suppose to see?
this is exactly at 7:14 :

http://img184.imageshack.us/img184/958/rpln4.jpg

umbrex

14-08-2007, 07:30 PM

is it expensive to b veg-ish ?

i feel my lifestyle with beef, cigs and cofee aren't doing me much good.

chris

14-08-2007, 07:31 PM

well im sure the average American would love to see his income tax going elsewhere then paying the interest on the debt.. just a wild shot in the fog..

and i'm sure there is another way of doing things then the way the fed are. why oppose to that.. really ?

the ron paul stuff is only hypothetical so far. i very much doubt if he will become a serious contender in the race for presidency

I'm very excited about his campaign but I don't think he'll get the nomination...Far too dangerous for the elite.

What I'm excited about is that now most of his supporters are new to his philosophies and they will wake up very quickly when they do fix the election. It's going to boost our numbers a huge way and you never know, maybe he might steal a victory but I doubt it.

His campaign has done so much already.

chris

14-08-2007, 07:33 PM

is it expensive to b veg-ish ?

i feel my lifestyle with beef, cigs and cofee aren't doing me much good.

It depends...I eat a lot of fruit and I pay nothing...I just go out for a walk and pick it but if you buy them at the store it can be expensive...

However it's not expensive and can be the cheapest form of eating...But it does range quite a way, a bit like normal food.

umbrex

14-08-2007, 07:36 PM

I'm very excited about his campaign but I don't think he'll get the nomination...Far too dangerous for the elite.

What I'm excited about is that now most of his supporters are new to his philosophies and they will wake up very quickly when they do fix the election. It's going to boost our numbers a huge way and you never know, maybe he might steal a victory but I doubt it.

His campaign has done so much already.

Besides the 9/11 and onwards stuff i think RP is helping to spread awareness about the massive scam regarding the fed. most americans are totally unaware, but there is a clear movement going.
I have experienced that different people need different catalysts to make themselves informed. Mostly the 9/11 stuff does the trick, but i have also found that some people are sparked when they are enlightened about the fed. All we can hope for is just a bit of honesty in the white house and RP seems like the best candidate by far.

Worst scenario is, imo Rudy Guilliani.
But hey, if they keep using electronic ballots it will hardly matter. Sadly it seems presidents are made these years, not elected.

chris

14-08-2007, 07:38 PM

Problem is that most vegetable sources of protein are not complete proteins. They don't have the good amino acid profiles. I guess if you not an athlete or if you don't care about losing muscle mass this is not as big of a deal.

This is disinfo...The person that came up with the protein combining theory was simply misinformed when trying to sort out health for the third world and the meat and dairy picked up on it and still use it today (even in text books) she retracted her statements. You don't lose muscle but you do lose water retention which is what bodybuilders hate...Even though vegie body builders aren't at all like pumped up freaks, they are more natural and don't have to almost kill themselves dehydrating before going out on stage.

Many fruits and vegs have full amino acid profiles. They are superior to meat as they also have fibre and no gluten.

chris

14-08-2007, 07:42 PM

Besides the 9/11 and onwards stuff i think RP is helping to spread awareness about the massive scam regarding the fed. most americans are totally unaware, but there is a clear movement going.
I have experienced that different people need different catalysts to make themselves informed. Mostly the 9/11 stuff does the trick, but i have also found that some people are sparked when they are enlightened about the fed. All we can hope for is just a bit of honesty in the white house and RP seems like the best candidate by far.

Worst scenario is, imo Rudy Guilliani.
But hey, if they keep using electronic ballots it will hardly matter. Sadly it seems presidents are made these years, not elected.

Totally with ya. Some people wake up to 9/11 but also some people go back to sleep on 9/11 because its far too scary for them.

archangel

14-08-2007, 07:43 PM

This is disinfo...The person that came up with the protein combining theory was simply misinformed when trying to sort out health for the third world and the meat and dairy picked up on it and still use it today (even in text books) she retracted her statements. You don't lose muscle but you do lose water retention which is what bodybuilders hate...Even though vegie body builders aren't at all like pumped up freaks, they are more natural and don't have to almost kill themselves dehydrating before going out on stage.

Many fruits and vegs have full amino acid profiles. They are superior to meat as they also have fibre and no gluten.

this is a rediculous statment. Do you lift weight? are you a powerlifter? bodybuilder?

I have know people who have tried to do these silly diets and seen what happens to them.

Bodybuilders have to "dehydrate" themselves because they use the wrong protien source?? :confused:

certain proteins are better sources than others. There is no doubt about it.

Anders Lindman

14-08-2007, 07:46 PM

what are we suppose to see?
this is exactly at 7:14 :

http://img184.imageshack.us/img184/958/rpln4.jpg

I had to forward and rewind a couple of times before I could see the hand gesture. I think it was before 7:14, but I'm not sure.

archangel

14-08-2007, 07:48 PM

I had to forward and rewind a couple of times before I could see the hand gesture. I think it was before 7:14, but I'm not sure.

I saw this on a myspace bulletin...for some reason when its attached in a bullten the clock goes from 9 minutes down to zero. Not from 0 to 9.

So 7:14 is not the right time.

supertzar

14-08-2007, 07:55 PM

It's very hard to get enough protein to build significant muscle mass without eating meat. Did you ever see a picture of idealogue from the old forum? :eek:

I eat local organic beef and/or venison every day and it rocks. It's less expensive than buying poisoned store-bought meat, too. Highest quality, lowest price. Recently I began to eat far less bread for the first time in my life and that has been an incredible improvement. Local organic eggs, meat, raw dairy, fruit and leaves every day has been rocking my world.

umbrex

14-08-2007, 07:58 PM

Totally with ya. Some people wake up to 9/11 but also some people go back to sleep on 9/11 because its far too scary for them.

It's such a bad experience when people go back to sleep. Here u've just unearthed the most megalithic bad perspective they have ever seen in their lives, and what do they do ?

Nothing

The most annoying experience i have had with this was when i gave loose change to a friend. she saw it, then watched screw loose change. Focusing on the critique rather then the very critical issues at hand. When i asked her to try investigating those it was just a simple no. It had to be up to the makers of loose change to convince her. Then i told her it was my impression that she didn't want to explore the topic as a sort of self preservation mechanism so she could have her world view intact. And boy did she get mad.

I think it goes to show that 9/11 was the latest shift in paradigm and actually have do do some groundwork yourself, only to force another, much more horrible paradigm onto you, is where the problem lies in regards of the awakening of the masses.
Mr. and Mrs. Johnson love their TV dinner and the comfy life they worked so hard to create. Why would they ever want to force this onto themselves ?

This is the real problem as i see it. And it has spun out of control when we realize that Mr. and Mrs. Johnson's world view is formed by the TV and other basic media. Which is under control.

Anders Lindman

14-08-2007, 08:01 PM

I saw this on a myspace bulletin...for some reason when its attached in a bullten the clock goes from 9 minutes down to zero. Not from 0 to 9.

So 7:14 is not the right time.

Here is a snapshot:

http://ncmedia.com/images/rp.jpg

thetonic

14-08-2007, 08:01 PM

is it expensive to b veg-ish ?

i feel my lifestyle with beef, cigs and cofee aren't doing me much good.

Man at first when you are transitioning over from meat to veg it will be hard on you and your pocketbook... But persevere , it will be much more expensive paying for hospital bills in the long run if you continue a life of cigs, coffee, and dead tortured cow... You will have to immerse yourself in the produce section and discover all the wonderfull foods that not alot of people eat anymore as the NWO would rather us eat a slaughterfield than a field of healthy greens... And i actually do know of people that body build on nothing but raw fruit and veggies.. I am doing well in my transition , although i still eat fish now and again, i have taken myself off all red meats, chicken, pork, turkey etc.etc. and feel so much better without it! RAISE YOUR VIBRATIONS! Not that i am strictly opposed to eating an animal but i have to know that it was treated and killed honorably and that is just too rare these days to mess with!
Peash!
;)

umbrex

14-08-2007, 08:01 PM

chris

14-08-2007, 08:04 PM

this is a rediculous statment. Do you lift weight? are you a powerlifter? bodybuilder?

I have know people who have tried to do these silly diets and seen what happens to them.

Bodybuilders have to "dehydrate" themselves because they use the wrong protien source?? :confused:

certain proteins are better sources than others. There is no doubt about it.

No, they dehydrate themselves because they are carrying too much water outside their cells.

An amino acid is an amino acid so if it's healthy then there is no distinction between your body but there are other things in meat that stop water getting into cells which causes your body to retain it outside your cells.

Still the water can pump your muscles up a little but it's not real muscle and I am more into functional muscle mass rather than fake showy muscles.

I was a basketball player and I was also into Olympic Weightlifting and hardcore strength stuff like grip training, throwing and other things...I love it and need to get back into it.

supertzar

14-08-2007, 08:09 PM

I don't know what you mean about greener pastures, but whey protein is okay in my book. I eat about 100 grams of protein worth of it most days.

h1s_l0rdsh1p

14-08-2007, 08:11 PM

At 8:31 on the video, he says
"What we need is a fair tax system and in order to get a fair tax system is to GET RID OF THE IRS"

This guy has my support.. I like him.

chris

14-08-2007, 08:19 PM

And i actually do know of people that body build on nothing but raw fruit and veggies..
;)

http://z12.invisionfree.com/FLF/index.php?showforum=238

This guy is pure fruitarian...Besides from being quite narcissistic (albeit characteristic of most bodybuilders), he is 36 years old and could pass easily for early to mid twenties...So if superszar can compare ideologue who never lifts any weights with all vegans then I can show that a person can be very healthy and only eat fruit.

Still I don't believe you can get freakish looking muscles from being a vegan but you can get very powerful functional strength from it.

supertzar

14-08-2007, 08:24 PM

Idealogue would shrivel away to nothingness if he started lifting. He would turn into dark matter an' shit.

chris

14-08-2007, 08:47 PM

Idealogue would shrivel away to nothingness if he started lifting. He would turn into dark matter an' shit.

Probably but at least he wouldn't be effeminate from the hormones. He would turn to dark matter.

supertzar

14-08-2007, 09:58 PM

Actually, now that I think of it, he did lift. He bragged about having a 100 Kg deadlift at age 15. :D Anyway, meat rules. The good kind, like I was talking about.

archangel

14-08-2007, 10:40 PM

http://z12.invisionfree.com/FLF/index.php?showforum=238

This guy is pure fruitarian...Besides from being quite narcissistic (albeit characteristic of most bodybuilders), he is 36 years old and could pass easily for early to mid twenties...So if superszar can compare ideologue who never lifts any weights with all vegans then I can show that a person can be very healthy and only eat fruit.

Still I don't believe you can get freakish looking muscles from being a vegan but you can get very powerful functional strength from it.

He just looks to be in good shape to me. The little bit of muscle he has is most likely due him having above average genetics.

But he doesn't look like to have any appreciable amount of muscle mass to me..and to me, he doesn't look very impressive.

Water retention has more to do with carbohydrates, and sodium level.

I'm not saying a person can not be healthy being a vegan. I'm just saying the concept of it is going way over board. Getting all your protein from vegs. is silly to me. There are plenty of protein sources which are healthy choices besides only vegetables, beans, etc.

chris

14-08-2007, 10:53 PM

He just looks to be in good shape to me. The little bit of muscle he has is most likely due him having above average genetics.

But he doesn't look like to have any appreciable amount of muscle mass to me..and to me, he doesn't look very impressive.

Water retention has more to do with carbohydrates, and sodium level.

I'm not saying a person can not be healthy being a vegan. I'm just saying the concept of it is going way over board. Getting all your protein from vegs. is silly to me. There are plenty of protein sources which are healthy choices besides only vegetables, beans, etc.

Fair enough, I was just pointing out that the food combining myth is age old debunked even by the person who started it and since the conversation went onto the subject of water retention I was saying it's more of a problem with meat eaters.

I wasn't saying he was an awesome figure, I was simply saying that you can be very healthy and build muscle simply from fruit, it wasn't aimed at you but a lot of people I know have a bias that somehow amino acids are more powerful when it comes from a dead animal than when it comes from a vegetable or vice-versa. Crazy but true.

peachped

14-08-2007, 11:02 PM

Here is a snapshot:

http://ncmedia.com/images/rp.jpg

Aye thats the spawn of satan right there! :rolleyes:

Anders Lindman

14-08-2007, 11:14 PM

Aye thats the spawn of satan right there! :rolleyes:

Just a little bit! :D

thetonic

15-08-2007, 02:36 PM

Probably but at least he wouldn't be effeminate from the hormones. He would turn to dark matter.

Ive got 50 quid saying that guy would rock an overly muscular body building fool in a ring!:cool:

edelweiss pirate

15-08-2007, 02:49 PM

He greets the crowd with the sign aswell and waves his hand about several times... 2:30

That's fucked.

Also his campaign banner is all about pro-life!?

I can see why.. the all powerful Roman Catholics who have self appointed themselves God visit destruction on any nations they feel deviating from God's law...

By having a pro-life RC influenced USA they will at least be spared any future Jesuit controlled terrorist attacks..

But a pro-life America? Jesus.... phew, that's gonna take some work and a lot of tears...

It's still a better plan than War though!

Go Ron Paul ! !

Anders Lindman

15-08-2007, 03:22 PM

He greets the crowd with the sign aswell and waves his hand about several times... 2:30

That's right! I totally missed that one. But he uses the sign with thumb out which means "I love you" or something like that in sign language.

edelweiss pirate

15-08-2007, 04:21 PM

thetonic

15-08-2007, 04:53 PM

Has anyone witnessed Dr.Paul gesturing like this at any moment before this event ? Surely he would have slipped up on it another time if he is indeed an illuminati soul sucker:confused:

Anders Lindman

15-08-2007, 05:16 PM

Ohhh I see... that's real nice...

Quite a fine line though isn't it, between 'I love you' on the one hand and 'I am a member of a secret order that wants to eat you and your childrens' souls' on the other....

lol. It's certainly strange that the sign of the devil and the sign for 'I love you' have been made so similar. And why do politicians so often use signs like that?