I Lost it Today

[hagbard_celine]

That's why I'm here. I need to see some friendly faces.

I'm quite a calm person and it doesn't often happen. i was debating 9/11 with a bunch of Skeptics on DC and I just threw my hands up at them. I was thinking about that awful "Conspiracy Files" Tv show and ended up just posting this:

Because I'm evil! :mad: Is that what you want to hear!?

I'm a 9/11 Denier, which means I'm also a Holocaust Denier, Global Warming Denier and an Apollo Denier. I'm only in this to make money and glory off the memories of those who died! When I say "dedicated to the Memory of those who lost their lives on September 11th 2001" I'm lying!

Go and tell you skeptic buddies that. We all know this conversation's going to end that way anyhow.


Well Guy Smith didn't think so when he made his "Conspiracy Files" show for the BBC. He portryed all the conspiracy debunkers in their offices, in cockpits, dressed in smart uniforms and suits, whereas he filmed all the "conspiracy theorists" like Avery and Feltzer in a fly-on-the-wall style at home in casual clothes, portraying them as dropouts.

This is exactly how people have been treated for questioning the Apollo programme! Nobody even considers that they have any other motivation than money and ego. They give debunkers airtime to express personal negative opinions on them. They show pictures of grieving widows with tears on their face while including voiceovers of them saying how much pain these "conspiracies" are causing them.

It would be OK if they just concentrated on the arguements and left the kiddies bully tactics alone.

Sorry, (unsername), I've had enough of this and I don't want to discuss this subject with you any more

Because he (David Shayler) wants to shit on those victim's graves himself, the selfish git! He won't let any of the rest of us 9/11 Deniers have the pleasure! :mad:

He won't even tell me the adresses of the 9/11 relatives so I can send them hate mail to them and gloat over how pleased I am that their loved ones have died. :mad:

How am I meant to make any money off their misery if he's conrered the market!? :mad:

This is the one and only reason why anyone would question the official story of 9/11! Why do you think he lies?

Why do you think I lie? You don't think we care do you? I'm a 9/11 Denier, when I'm not being a Global Warming Denier and a Holocaust Denier. I'm the Devil Incarnate! :mad:


We've all got our limits and I just reached mine.

[narcolepticwatchman]

I was actually thinking about this today on the way home from work. i was thinking about Davids Golden rule of Polarity.......that which you fight you become. Initially I thought this idea was a bit far out, however, as everyday passes, i am feeling less and less empathy for people who refuse to see the wood for the trees by blindly following their leaders and not questioning anything.......even worse, the people who have been shown whats going on, yet still don't believe it or couldn't care less. I was thinking, these people deserve everything thats on the menu for them...............I'm not prone to thoughts like that to be honest.

[hagbard_celine]

I'm glad I'm not the only one who's feeling negative like that!:)

I've always prided myself on being patient with people and keeping my dignity in the face of adversity, so I feel rather ashamed of myself.

But come to think of it, I feel a bit better now I've given them both barrels! Maybe I needed to let off steam.

I think I've been a bit overdosed with this stuff, because I spent all of Saturday doing that review for "Screw Loose Change". It's a three hour film and it took me the whole bloody day to go through it! I think I've had a bit too much Skeptical indignation for my own good. I need a mental detox!

[hagbard_celine]

I actually discovered today that the three Skeptics who have been wrangling with me on DC are all the same person! :eek:So much for a united front!

To expose them I had to be a bit underhand and employ some disinfo. Again, I'm not proud of myself for that, but I get so pissed off with people treating me like that.

[nathan30]

dont let skeptics get to u mate, u know your own truth and that is all thats important. we r all multidimensional beings and we now have the chance to evolve through our dreams, concentrate on this amazingly positive outcome and forget all about 9/11 and the nwo. they wont win if we all evolve so their plan is pointless and not worth worrying about. concentrate on the positive, thats what they dont want, they feed off our negative energy so arguing with someone who is in denial only gives the annunaki more power. infact everything we do thats negative benefits them.

[hagbard_celine]

dont let skeptics get to u mate, u know your own truth and that is all thats important. we r all multidimensional beings and we now have the chance to evolve through our dreams, concentrate on this amazingly positive outcome and forget all about 9/11 and the nwo. they wont win if we all evolve so their plan is pointless and not worth worrying about. concentrate on the positive, thats what they dont want, they feed off our negative energy so arguing with someone who is in denial only gives the annunaki more power. infact everything we do thats negative benefits them.

I'll try to bear that in mind.

Thanks for those encouraging words.:)

[adamadam]

I was actually thinking about this today on the way home from work. i was thinking about Davids Golden rule of Polarity.......that which you fight you become.
LRH spoke about something similar to this.
My understanding and experience is that if you cannot confront something and continually fight against it then it will remain for as long as you do.
You can see this in life - for example if I cannot confront losing my job and obsessively try to do everything possible to keep my job then that fear will remain.
Worse than that I might even lose my job because any obsession is not rational and feeding it will tend to lead in the direction of irrational behaviour in that area - hence increasing the chance that my fear comes true.

If you are involved in an argument then of course that will continue as long as you cannot accept the other person has that point of view. It takes two to have an argument and arguing with someone even if they are in the wrong will tend to make them dig in harder to justify their own rightness.

as everyday passes, i am feeling less and less empathy for people who refuse to see the wood for the trees by blindly following their leaders and not questioning anything.......even worse, the people who have been shown whats going on, yet still don't believe it or couldn't care less. I was thinking, these people deserve everything thats on the menu for them...............I'm not prone to thoughts like that to be honest.
Well there is comfort in observing that these people aren't in good shape. Every time you come across them it's worth noting their emotional state. And the people who actively attack you for believing the poor state of the world is caused rather than the natural state of things are in worse state than those who couldn't care.

[adamadam]

I actually discovered today that the three Skeptics who have been wrangling with me on DC are all the same person! :eek:So much for a united front!

Interesting if not surprising. It's a warning sign that someone is anti-social when they use terms like "everyone knows" and this is along those lines - trying to overwhelm by creating the idea that everyone shares their warped opinion without looking at how things really are.

[johnabelardo]

:)Hey Hagbard,
Don't let this guy get to you. He's only viewing reality from his own perspective. As for losing it, well, thats ok. everyone loses it a little from time to time, the thing is you clearly regret it, some people lose it with alarming regularity and feel no remorse whatsoever.
Stay easy,
J

[infinitetruth]

I actually discovered today that the three Skeptics who have been wrangling with me on DC are all the same person! :eek:So much for a united front!

To expose them I had to be a bit underhand and employ some disinfo. Again, I'm not proud of myself for that, but I get so pissed off with people treating me like that.

He needs to potray 3 people to argue? Woa, thats seriously lame.

Don't feel bad tho, you're brave to do such a thing. I usually stay away from these types of situations (cowardly LOL) but the other day I saw a blog on which a person stated that 9/11 truthers were a waste of space etc etc and he got loads of replies from his readers saying 'you disappointed me' 'I held your blog in high regard until now' etc which really cheered me up - there are a lot of people still out there with their heads screwed on.

Most of the time I feel indifferent to those who fail to see beyond the lies the media portray.

[hagbard_celine]

Interesting if not surprising. It's a warning sign that someone is anti-social when they use terms like "everyone knows" and this is along those lines - trying to overwhelm by creating the idea that everyone shares their warped opinion without looking at how things really are.

It's a good sign really because if someone has to be aggressive and destructive to opponents then their arguement must be on shaky grounds. If you certain of what you know then you don't need to violently supress dissent.

[hagbard_celine]

:)Hey Hagbard,
Don't let this guy get to you. He's only viewing reality from his own perspective. As for losing it, well, thats ok. everyone loses it a little from time to time, the thing is you clearly regret it, some people lose it with alarming regularity and feel no remorse whatsoever.
Stay easy,
J

Thanks, pal :). I feel a bit better now for letting off steam.

[hagbard_celine]

He needs to potray 3 people to argue? Woa, thats seriously lame.

Don't feel bad tho, you're brave to do such a thing. I usually stay away from these types of situations (cowardly LOL) but the other day I saw a blog on which a person stated that 9/11 truthers were a waste of space etc etc and he got loads of replies from his readers saying 'you disappointed me' 'I held your blog in high regard until now' etc which really cheered me up - there are a lot of people still out there with their heads screwed on.

Most of the time I feel indifferent to those who fail to see beyond the lies the media portray.

It's not cowardly to stay out of personal bickering, you know. It's sensible. We've got the Orwellian New World Order bearing down on us; there are more important things to do with out time than feed trolls. Now I know who these three members are, I've put them all on ignore.

It's a good forum; my first one ever, and I don't want to abandon it.

[irie_dave]

I was actually thinking about this today on the way home from work. i was thinking about Davids Golden rule of Polarity.......that which you fight you become.

This is one thing I'm confused on. Like I pretty much agree w/everything David says now in his research including reptilians after having seen some pictures & videos of Bush & his son with reptlian looking pupils, but shouldn't we still try to get the word out to people in order to prevent martial law. I mean "love is the only truth, the rest is an illusion" is probably ultimately true but these people can still put us in a FEMA camp can't they? What if police come to our doors for round-ups after a false flag nuclear attack or engineered virus outbreak, shouldn't we defend ourselves physically? What about the whole physical portion of this.

[irie_dave]

hagbard_celine I was at a point like you where I lost it & started just being ultra synicle & talking shit to people who are liars/agents like you are. After that I just got to a point where I don't care anymore & debate people more calmly & I actually do a better job now of getting the facts out.

[tinmenace]

Read my signature :)

[i_am]

This is one thing I'm confused on. Like I pretty much agree w/everything David says now in his research including reptilians after having seen some pictures & videos of Bush & his son with reptlian looking pupils, but shouldn't we still try to get the word out to people in order to prevent martial law. I mean "love is the only truth, the rest is an illusion" is probably ultimately true but these people can still put us in a FEMA camp can't they? What if police come to our doors for round-ups after a false flag nuclear attack or engineered virus outbreak, shouldn't we defend ourselves physically? What about the whole physical portion of this.

Fighting it from fear is different to exposing and resisting from a calmer, less emotional perspective. I am sure we will all fight if we are put in a position where it is fight or surrender but we do not need to 'fight ' every day. If we do that we are keeping ourselves in a negative space. Negativity and fighting against each other is what they thrive on.

[macaula]

http://darkconspiracy.trhonline.com/viewtopic.php?t=5727&start=0

A link to this was posted on DC and as a participant in the above thread and one of the people Hagbard Celine is lying about i thought i would post this.
Right from the first page Hagbard Celine was being aggressive and rude an example of this is calling someones well researched work a piece of shite. Granted Marco calls Hagbards critique shite also. Marcos words are not exceptible but funny enough Marco is the only one Hagbard Celine dosent attack (could be something to do with him being the moderator). In Hagbards third post he lays into Doctor WooLove a new poster to the board who hagbard later managed to hound away with untrue accusations. Through the rest of the thread you will notice no one is rude or nasty to Hagbard and him loosing it has nothing to to with what anyone else posted.

As for the three posters all being the same person well thats just not true.

Hagbard Celine i would appreciate it if you stopped spreading rumors about me.

[nickatnoon61]

That's why I'm here. I need to see some friendly faces.

I'm quite a calm person and it doesn't often happen. i was debating 9/11 with a bunch of Skeptics on DC and I just threw my hands up at them. I was thinking about that awful "Conspiracy Files" Tv show and ended up just posting this:







We've all got our limits and I just reached mine.

Haggy, ever consider it may be your reptilian part of your brain at work?:eek:

[i_am]

Haggy, ever consider it may be your reptilian part of your brain at work?:eek:

Hmmmmm!! You could be right nick, the reptilian fight or flight part of our brain is the bit that kicks in automatically when threatened :)

[nickatnoon61]

Hmmmmm!! You could be right nick, the reptilian fight or flight part of our brain is the bit that kicks in automatically when threatened :)

Damn rights , I-_am, and what about a woman and PMS????:eek: How does that connect to the Reptilian DNA? :confused: If I could solve that one, the men would build a statue in my likeness!!!:D

[i_am]

Damn rights , I-_am, and what about a woman and PMS????:eek: How does that connect to the Reptilian DNA? :confused: If I could solve that one, the men would build a statue in my likeness!!!:D

Hahaha! be afraid, very afraid :D

Take flight as there is no point in fighting. You CANNOT win!!!

[nickatnoon61]

Hahaha! be afraid, very afraid :D

Take flight as there is no point in fighting. You CANNOT win!!!
:D:D:D

[hagbard_celine]

hagbard_celine I was at a point like you where I lost it & started just being ultra synicle & talking shit to people who are liars/agents like you are. After that I just got to a point where I don't care anymore & debate people more calmly & I actually do a better job now of getting the facts out.

Hmm. What you've just said will be interesting when I report it to headquarters!

:rolleyes::cool:

[hagbard_celine]

Haggy, ever consider it may be your reptilian part of your brain at work?:eek:


Yes. It's quite good to find out that I'm human! I've been twice (and I suspect a third time) dumped by girlfriends for being "too nice". I don't want to stop being gentle with people, I'm just relived that I'm not a pathological tongue-biter.

[adamadam]

Fighting it from fear is different to exposing and resisting from a calmer, less emotional perspective. I am sure we will all fight if we are put in a position where it is fight or surrender but we do not need to 'fight ' every day. If we do that we are keeping ourselves in a negative space. Negativity and fighting against each other is what they thrive on.

Spot on!

[adamadam]

It's a good sign really because if someone has to be aggressive and destructive to opponents then their arguement must be on shaky grounds. If you certain of what you know then you don't need to violently supress dissent.

Exactly right!

[adamadam]

Hmmmmm!! You could be right nick, the reptilian fight or flight part of our brain is the bit that kicks in automatically when threatened :)

Right (thought I think it's probably as accurate to call it the fish part of our brain as the reptilian part).

Problem is that this part of the mind is none too clever and what it finds threatening does not always match up to what actually is a threat to our survival.

The exact mechanism is explained in Dianetics.

[lottie]

Don't worry HC, we all lose our rag every now and then- someone at work really wound me up the other day when i mentioned microchips etc and he promptly told me he had nothing to hide and had no problem with them putting a chip in his right butt cheek, my colleague told me he was winding me up but i told him it may be funny now- but that sort of ignorance is the reason this agenda is going to be put in place, i got so annoyed with him and he baited me-he was reading off the same script the majority of society reads from, i should have known better but i couldnt help myself!! gotta go to work now and face him and his silly jokes about the NWO!!! He totally thinks im nuts....but im calm today so i shalln't take the bait! :)

have a good day HC!!! you're human- we all get passionate and angry and frustrated at times....along withall the positive emotions we have such as love and happiness etc etc....polarity!

[albie]

Well Guy Smith didn't think so when he made his "Conspiracy Files" show for the BBC. He portryed all the conspiracy debunkers in their offices, in cockpits, dressed in smart uniforms and suits, whereas he filmed all the "conspiracy theorists" like Avery and Feltzer in a fly-on-the-wall style at home in casual clothes, portraying them as dropouts.

That's because debunkers know not to give conspiracy too much time. Hence "come and film me at work if you have to film me at all."

Whereas conspiracy theorists make time for any attention they can get.

[survivor1]

ONE day we will all lose it together.

[adamadam]

I hope you don't mean our virginity. ;)

[survivor1]

Lost that years ago:D

[kashmirz]

*hugs hagbard_celine* dont let the illuminati kick you down

[nickatnoon61]

I hope you don't mean our virginity. ;)

Well that wud be one SPECIAL HUMUNGOUS COLLECTIVE ORGASM, that would be heard thruout the UNIVERSE!!!!!:eek::eek::eek:

[makemyday]

Once I was told that nothing comes without preparation. The right people you meet at right time, when you're prepared, the knowledge and thougths also come at right time. Don't make yourself and everyone else feel embarassed just because someone can't agree with you. Maybe we are already prepared for such knowledge, but still there are many people who aren't. You should make an examination at first, instead of showing all your aces. That's what I do. If I see that person is not ready for such news, I'm trying to examinate him, how he imagines reality (for example, he doesn't believe in other races than human, or life after death). Then I'm starting from this point and step by step changing his opinion (you know it's necessary to have a good tongue to convince people). If I'm still not succeeded, I just say to myself, that this person is not ready, and he needs only time to prepare himself. I know, we all need strong will and patience when dealing with skeptics, but it's all we can do right now. :)

[hagbard_celine]

Don't worry HC, we all lose our rag every now and then- someone at work really wound me up the other day when i mentioned microchips etc and he promptly told me he had nothing to hide and had no problem with them putting a chip in his right butt cheek, my colleague told me he was winding me up but i told him it may be funny now- but that sort of ignorance is the reason this agenda is going to be put in place, i got so annoyed with him and he baited me-he was reading off the same script the majority of society reads from, i should have known better but i couldnt help myself!! gotta go to work now and face him and his silly jokes about the NWO!!! He totally thinks im nuts....but im calm today so i shalln't take the bait! :)

have a good day HC!!! you're human- we all get passionate and angry and frustrated at times....along withall the positive emotions we have such as love and happiness etc etc....polarity!

Thanks, lottie. I feel a lot calmer now. I think the problem was spent about 12 hours writing that debunker for "Screw Loose Change" and I went straight from that to the BBC's "Conspiracy Files" on 9/11 which was even worse, because it's propaganda was far more subtle, and therefore more dangerous. Nobody will seriosuly pay much attention to "SLC" because it's just a blatent rant, but "TCF" is far more persuasive and is really designed to get into the subconscious and fuck people's heads fronm the inside out. "SLC" is Ian Paisley, but "TCF" is Edward L. Bernays. I was overdosed on the violence of it all and needed a mental detox after all that..

It probably did me good to let off steam actually. I felt I was being used and treared with contempt on DC. The worst bit was that this person underestimated me so much. He actually thought that I wouldn't find out that all three memebers were him! He really thinks I'm that dumb. Well I hope he's knows better now!

[hagbard_celine]

*hugs hagbard_celine* dont let the illuminati kick you down

Chers mate. You too! It's like crime: Together we'll crack it.

:)

[john white]

You know what Hagbard:

We have 2530 registered users
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Suggests that place is a multi-Id trolls paradise. An average of two posts per user???

[hagbard_celine]

You know what Hagbard:



Suggests that place is a multi-Id trolls paradise. An average of two posts per user???

Yes, trolling has made a bit of a comeback after a couple of years in its own camp.

For some reason this forum seems to be containing the problem, unlike DC. DC is an absolute nest of spam. We've got someone on there trying to flog Tramadol! every time he gets banned he just rejoins under a new account!

[eat_a_grey]

This is exactly the reason I really dont talk about my ideas/thoughts to anyone anymore except for those in my 'inner circle'.

As an earlier post in this thread alluded to,hey screw them if they dont want to wake up and smell the toast.

Personally,Im tired of being labeled as kooky,creepy,nuts,a whacko ect ect ect ect.

I dont try to force my thoughts down anyones throat,and I expect them to do the same to me,I dont want to hear it.

So now when I hear someone bashing someone else who has the same ideas as I do,I just look at the basher with pity,I know that some day,either they will wake up and smell the toast or they will be forced to live their lives controlled by the powers that be,until they die.

As callous as that may seem,so be it.Its better them than me.

Hagbard just my 2 cents my friend,but I guess Im trying to say here,is just let the bashing run off you like rain down a drain pipe.I mean really,if someone bashes your ideas,does it really matter as long as YOU know the truth?

[hagbard_celine]

Hagbard just my 2 cents my friend,but I guess Im trying to say here,is just let the bashing run off you like rain down a drain pipe.I mean really,if someone bashes your ideas,does it really matter as long as YOU know the truth?

Thanks, Mate. I'll try to remember that.

I've not watched the History Channel debunker yet, and I think it's to give myself a break from all the shit-throwing.

[eat_a_grey]

Thanks, Mate. I'll try to remember that.



Right,then if all else fails,kick ass and take names :rolleyes: