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shanecmuir
12-08-2009, 07:35 AM
Fluoridated water must be treated as a medicine, and cannot be used to prepare foods! That is the decision of the European Court of Justice, in a landmark case dealing with the classification and regulation of 'functional drinks' in member states of the European Community. (HLH Warenvertriebs and Orthica (Joined Cases C-211/03, C-299/03, C-316/03 and C-318/03) 9 June2005)...

Implications for international trade in food products...

But the ruling also has an equally profound implication for export trade in processed foods and drinks. The Court stated that even if a functional food product (or a food containing it) is legally marketed as a food in one member state, it cannot be exported to any other member state unless it has a medicinal licence. So any company making a consumable product using fluoridated water in its preparation or as an ingredient cannot now export that product to any other state in the EC, even if their product is permitted in their home state.

The economic implications are enormous. Not only does the ruling ban the use of fluoridated water for all retail catering and wholesale food processing in the UK and Ireland, it also prohibits such trade from these states to other member states of the EC.

But it goes much further than even this, because if British and Irish processed foods from fluoridated areas cannot be exported to the EC, this prohibition must also apply to the importing of such products into EC member states from any other country that practices water fluoridation. The decision effectively bans all processed food products from countries such as the USA, Australia and New Zealand, unless they can be positively proven to have been prepared using only water that was not fluoridated.

http://www.thenhf.com/fluoridation/fluoridation_183/fluoridation_183.htm

shanecmuir
13-08-2009, 06:57 AM
This is good news.. a step in the right direction.

Is good news generally ignored on this forum? :confused:

quetzalcoatl
13-08-2009, 07:19 AM
This is good news.. a step in the right direction.

Is good news generally ignored on this forum? :confused:

Sure is! :)

Great for the EC, @ least. :D

bornfree
13-08-2009, 02:17 PM
Fired a quickie off to Asda on the 23rd of July

Good day

Have any of asda's own products or those of any of their suppliers been subject to flouridated water in its rearing of livestock, water added (chicken etc) to foodstuffs, growing of vegetables, use in prewashed salads?

The reason I ask is because Fluoridated water must be treated as a medicine, and cannot be used to prepare foods! That is the decision of the European Court of Justice, in a landmark case dealing with the classification and regulation of 'functional drinks' in member states of the European Community. (HLH Warenvertriebs and Orthica (Joined Cases C-211/03, C-299/03, C-316/03 and C-318/03) 9 June2005)

The Court stated that even if a functional food product (or a food containing it) is legally marketed as a food in one member state, it cannot be exported to any other member state unless it has a medicinal licence. So any company making a consumable product using fluoridated water in its preparation or as an ingredient cannot now export that product to any other state in the EC, even if their product is permitted in their home state.

So what is Asda's policy on the european courts ruling in regard to medically (flouride is added to water for medical benefit)enhanced produce?

Please take the time to peruse these following articles by Douglas Cross, CBiol, MIBiol, EurProBiol.
Independent Consultant in Environmental Analysis.

http://www.ukcaf.org/files/medication_with_intent.pdf

&

http://www.ukcaf.org/files/ecj_ruling_on_functional_foods.pdf

Thanks in advance.

Regards

A loyal customer

Response:

Thank you for your message.

Dear Paul

Thank you for your patience whilst awaiting my response.

I've been in contact with our technologist team, suppliers and MHRA, which is the body responsible for licensing medicines. Below is the response from MHRA: -

The decision as to whether a product falls within the definition of a medicinal product is made by individual Member States. In the UK this duty falls to the Medicines Borderline Section of the MHRA. I am aware of the HLH Warenvertriebs judgement and its linked cases but it doesn't say what the anti-fluoridationists think or want it to say.

The suggestion that the European Court has ruled that fluoridated drinking water for human use is medicinal is simply not true. I have seen Mr Cross's website but it is not an accurate reflection of the law in this area. You will not be surprised to learn that the Borderline Section has already been asked to consider whether the cases from the European Court of Justice which are quoted would affect our view of fluoridated drinking water. The MHRA does not believe that these Judgements affect their opinion that fluoridated drinking water is not a medicinal product. The MHRA has looked at the status of fluoridated drinking water under medicines legislation on a number of occasions since the subject was first raised with the then Medicines Control Agency (MCA) in 1999. The MCA did not believe that fluoridated drinking water was medicinal then and the MHRA has not seen any material subsequently which would lead it to a different conclusion.

I would also add that because we make decisions on products administered to human beings, I doubt that water given to animals, used to irrigate fields or wash salads could ever fall within the definition of a medicinal product nor would we say that meat from an animal had consumed fluoridated water or a vegetable grown with such water was a medicinal product.

I hope this helps and if there is anything else I can help you with please let me know.

Kind Regards
Lucy
Asda Service Team

To me this seems as though they are saying the addition of fluoride to water is not for medicinal (dental) benefit. Then surely its must solely be for the purpose of soiling the water to get rid of toxic by-products but with the public paying for the privilege.

"Borderline Section" = nice big gap for the failure to implement leglisation to fall into?

decim
13-08-2009, 07:08 PM
Used in foods for export, not local consumption.

It doesn't say that fluoride after being classified as a medicine, Has to be taken out of drinking water.

There's more holes in this than a Swiss cheese.

Fluoridated water must be treated as a medicine, and cannot be used to prepare foods!