Fires In Woods.

[illuminumnuts]

I know nothing about this at all. Are you allowed to make a small fire in woodland under the authority of your local council?

[cryst4l]

I know nothing about this at all. Are you allowed to make a small fire in woodland under the authority of your local council?

Extract from my council bye laws :

3. (a) No person shall light a fire on the land, or place or throw or let fall a lighted match or any other thing so as to be likely to cause a fire;

(b) This byelaw shall not prevent the lighting or use or a properly constructed camping stove or cooker in any area set aside for the purpose, in such a manner as not to cause danger of or damage by fire.


Hope this helps!

[illuminumnuts]

Thanks, I thought adults might have been allowed. That does surprise me a bit.

[the worm that turned]

Extract from my council bye laws :



Hope this helps!

It is embarrassing when you think about how those who "believe" they have the right to control us behave. "You can't light a fire without my permission", "You can't drive a vehicle without a licence", "You can't earn money unless you give us half of it"!!

How about, "I am a free human being who is more powerful than any piece of paper with your rules written on it, so shove that piece of paper where the sun doesn't shine"

We ALL need to take back our power and live as free human beings, not ACT as children expecting the nanny state to look after us and hold our hands!

It is a joke and it appears to be getting worse every day.

Still, the more of us that are waking others up to how draconian our countries are the better! :)

[cryst4l]

Thanks, I thought adults might have been allowed. That does surprise me a bit.

Yes, even us cannot be trusted with fire ;)

Unless your cooking, so maybe a pot of some kind near by, would suffice?

[tom bombadil]

I often light fires when out on a treck.

If I am on 'common' land and not on 'private prop.' then I dont seek to ask permision. To be honest though, if you do light a fire it could be for three reasons; you are cold, you are hungry, or you wish to feel emotionaly comfortable.

If you are cold or hungry, then stuff permision and do it.

I will add that if you light a controlled fire in a small tin, then that will give off loads of heat for you to cook and warm yourself by.

At the end of the day (or rather in the morning) you will leave a mark unless you preped the ground first. With a tin, you will not.

In my oppinion, if you dont own the land then you should ask. I would not want a chap on my land or in my 'vast' garden burning patches for all to see, so why not ask first? If you are truly cold or hungry then you have found help anyway.

So the last part is that of your emotional state. Sitting in front of a fire is a lovely feeling, and cant be beat. For this you should ask at all times. On common land you are asking yourself just why you want to sit there at that point with a new fire? Is it the beauty? the smells, the atmosphere? It was probably not that you saw a fire pit there! So prepare properly.


This thread could now lead you to the survival threads. Ask there and you will learn how to make a tin fire or a fire pit in a way that leaves you satisfied.



Nelly.

[yozhik]

How about, "I am a free human being who is more powerful than any piece of paper with your rules written on it, so shove that piece of paper where the sun doesn't shine"


Using the "piece of paper" to light the fire might be more efficient ... and so much more hygienic.
:rolleyes:

[jimmi]

If you want to light a fire in the woods please find out about what damage you can inadvertently do, For example, the ground will usually be quite 'peaty', (composed of peat), which can then smolder unnoticed for days, even weeks, until the wind picks up and turns it into a raging inferno!
Cause no harm or loss eh?

[the worm that turned]

If you want to light a fire in the woods please find out about what damage you can inadvertently do, For example, the ground will usually be quite 'peaty', (composed of peat), which can then smolder unnoticed for days, even weeks, until the wind picks up and turns it into a raging inferno!
Cause no harm or loss eh?

I agree with you. Find out what damage it can do, act responsibly. This is not the same as being granted permission, or being prevented from doing so.

Can't remember the last raging inferno in my neck of the woods. ha ha, no pun intended!

I would say shooting and bombing innocent people in illegal wars causes more damage, but what would happen if we all told those in "power" to stop? Actually, come to think of it, they would stop!!

Shame we just idly sit back and let it happen. What a Great race of Brits we are!

[steevo]

That might be one of the reasons why we always hear of forest fires in the mainstream media. The PTB have to justify taking away our RIGHT to have a fire. Now I'm not saying that the PTB START the fires THEMSELVES.....:rolleyes:

[danster82]

Thanks, I thought adults might have been allowed. That does surprise me a bit.

I think this sentence sums up the whole freeman thing. You thought Adults might be allowed ahh? So who is allowing or disallowing adults? By definition you must still be a child an adult doesn't ask permission to light a fire.

[rosix]

yea that's a key theme underlying this business
need a lawyer? you're a child
need statutes? you're a child
etc.

[bsmurph83]

exactly. who the fuck "allows" a thinking, sentient adult to do anything? who presumes to assert authority over the adult?

[cryst4l]

Hi Guys,

This is quite surreal.

I have been just served a abatement notice for having a controlled fire in a metal dustbin.

When I asked the official why he was serving me with an act that does not relate to a human being, his response was "eh?"

LOL makes me laugh.

[mondo23]

If you want to light a fire in the woods please find out about what damage you can inadvertently do, For example, the ground will usually be quite 'peaty', (composed of peat), which can then smolder unnoticed for days, even weeks, until the wind picks up and turns it into a raging inferno!
Cause no harm or loss eh?

Eh? We've been lighting fires outside ever since we learned how to make fire and burn things. That's quite alot of practice. Of course fires can get out of control and cause harm and/or loss but a little knowledge and some common sense goes a very long way.

[godspeed]

i regularly have a fire at the back of my council house and would never ask for permission...as refusal would offend me......:D

[cryst4l]

i regularly have a fire at the back of my council house and would never ask for permission...as refusal would offend me......:D

Ah, but if you are deemed to be harming someone with the smoke then in common law terms are you not breaking the law, even if the council use an act to stop you then technically you are breaking the LAW?

I'm not well educated with the FOTL movement to the extent I could say that this is fact but it'sthe way I see it.

[illuminumnuts]

I think this sentence sums up the whole freeman thing. You thought Adults might be allowed ahh? So who is allowing or disallowing adults? By definition you must still be a child an adult doesn't ask permission to light a fire.

It's nice to see some pluck on the forums. However, good knowledge of legislation, whether childish or not, is empowering and can be used to your advantage. It is invariably the best tactic to use brain rather than brawn in relation to undemocratic laws.