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Note: This is not my wriiting nor my words. I found this on www.stevequayle.com. This comes from another person using the name hawk.
Please read it and decide for yourselves as to what it means to you.The only thing I can do is pass on the information.
Thanks.
Hawk's Emergency Alert
October 2, 2008
Hawk
EMERGENCY ALERT
AFTER RECEIVING A FLOOD OF INFORMATION FROM VARIOUS SOURCES ON WEDNESDAY 10/1/2008 AND CAREFUL CONSIDERATION OF ALL ECONOMIC, GEO-POLITICAL, MILITARY, INTELLIGENCE, AND SPIRITUAL ASPECTS OF THE CURRENT SITUATION OF THE united States AND THE WORLD I SOUGHT THE LORD JESUS IN PRAYER TO ASK HIM IF I SHOULD SOUND THIS WATCHMAN'S WARNING TO THOSE WHO HAVE EARS TO HEAR AND EYES TO SEE.
THE ANSWER TO FULFILL THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE WATCHMAN'S JOB TO WARN OF ANY AND ALL POTENTIAL OR PROBABLE THREATS TO THE PEOPLE CAME THROUGH LOUD AND CLEAR. I DO NOT KNOW 100% IF THE FOLLOWING WILL HAPPEN BUT THEN NO WARNING OF THIS MAGNITUDE CAN ALWAYS BE 100%. THIS IS NOT...."THUS SAYETH THE LORD" .
I STRONGLY URGE ALL TO TAKE THIS TO THE LORD IN PRAYER AND TO DECIDE FOR YOURSELVES, AS FREE MEN AND WOMEN IN AMERICA, THESE united States, WHAT ACTIONS, IF ANY, YOU SHOULD TAKE OR NOT TAKE. YOU ARE ,AS I SAID, FREE MEN AND WOMEN ENDOWED BY YOUR CREATOR WITH INALIENABLE RIGHTS TO LIFE, LIBERTY, AND PURSUIT OF HAPPINESS. YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO PROTECT YOURSELVES AND YOUR FAMILIES AND IN THAT REGARD I OFFER THE FOLLOWING WARNING AND INFORMATION.
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THE WARNING
THERE IS STRONG INDICATION THAT A "BANK HOLIDAY" UNDER A DECLARATION OF AN ECONOMIC EMERGENCY MAY BE DECLARED IN THE U.S. SOMETIME WITHIN THE NEXT 2 WEEKS AND POSSIBLY AS EARLY AS SATURDAY 10/4/2008.
THE INFORMATION INDICATES THAT IT MAY BE ANNOUNCED TO LAST A WEEK OR TWO AND THAT ALL BANKS AND FINANCIAL INSTITUTIONS WILL CLOSE DURING THAT PERIOD. NO ACCESS TO YOUR DEPOSITS WILL BE POSSIBLE, ATMS WILL NOT WORK, CREDIT CARDS WILL NOT WORK, AND BROKERAGE ACCOUNTS WILL NOT BE ACCESSIBLE EITHER.
THIS WOULD BE DONE UNDER A STATE OF MARTIAL LAW THOUGH TROOPS MAY NOT APPEAR ON ALL STREETS IMMEDIATELY UNDER THE FAINT HOPE THAT THE POPULACE WILL SIMPLY ACCEPT THESE MATTERS, BUT THE BANKS AND FINANCIAL INSTITUTIONS WILL BE HEAVILY GUARDED WHETHER OVERTLY VISIBLE OR NOT.
IF RIOTS OR CIVIL UPHEAVAL BREAK OUT, WHICH OF COURSE WOULD BE EXPECTED IN MANY LOCALES, THEN YOU WILL SEE TROOPS, LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS, SWAT TEAMS, PRIVATE SECURITY CONTRACTORS, AND EVEN FEDERALLY AUTHORIZED U.S. GOVERNMENT, STATE GOVERNMENT, AND LOCAL GOVERNMENT WORKERS OPERATING UNDER THE REGIONAL MILITARY GOVERNORS OR FEMA CONTINUTITY OF GOVERNMENT CONTROLLERS TO ATTEMPT TO PUT DOWN THE RIOTS AND UPHEVAL WITH SANCTIONED ANY FORCE NECESSARY.
FULL IMPLEMENTATION OF ALL 500 + EXECUTIVE ORDERS AND PRESIDENTIAL DECISION DIRECTIVES ALREADY EXTANT AFTER THE 911 ATTACKS PROMPTED THEIR INVOCATION BY THE PRESIDENT, PLUS ANY STANDING ORDERS UNDER FEMA COG PLANS OR MILITARY PLANS UNDER THE CURRENT VERSIONS OF "REX 84" ......"GARDEN PLOT".....OR "CABLE SPLICER" WILL BE CARRIED OUT.
EXPECT CURFEWS , CHECK POINTS, RESTRICTIONS ON TRAVEL, CONFISCATION OF FOOD, WATER, TRANSPORTATION, WEAPONS, COMMUNCATIONS, HOMES FOR BILLETTING TROOPS, ALL MONEY, AND SHOOT TO KILL ORDERS IF THE REGIONAL MILITARY GOVERNOR DEEMS IT NECESSARY. ORGANIZATION OF CIVILLIAN WORK GANGS AND EVEN TRANSPORT TO CONCENTRATION CAMPS WILL BE SEEN IF EVENTS GO AS THE MILITARY AND FEMA PLANNERS HAVE EXPECTED.
DATA POINTS, CONVERGING FACTORS, AND CAVEATS
1. CONFIRMATION FROM BACK CHANNEL SOURCES OF MOVEMENT BY THOSE UNITS WHICH ESTABLISH COMMAND AND CONTROL APPARATUS FOR MARTIAL LAW HAS INDICATED THAT ORDERS FOR ESTABLISHMENT OF ALL NECESSARY COMMAND, COMMUNICATIONS, AND CONTROL MECHANISMS IS ALREADY UNDERWAY AND AS THIS APPEARS ON 10/2/2008 THEY SHOULD BE READY TO ISSUE ALL ORDERS TO ANY TROOPS, LAW ENFORCEMENT, GOVERNMENT, OR PRIVATE CONTRACTORS NEEDED TO EFFECT IMMEDIATE MARTIAL LAW.
ALL THAT IS REQUIRED IS A "GREEN LIGHT" FROM WHOEVER RUNS THIS COUNTRY AT THIS TIME OR FROM THE PRESIDENT.
2. INDICATIONS THAT THE BANKING DEBACLE IS EVEN MORE SERIOUS AND MUCH LARGER THAN IS BEING STATED BY THE U.S. GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS IS NOW COMING FROM NUMEROUS SOURCES. IT HAS WORLD WIDE IMPLICATIONS.
3. NUMEROUS REPORTS OF TROOP MOVEMENTS AND MILITARY FLIGHTS OF UNUSUAL NATURE ARE COMING INTO STEVE QUAYLE, MYSELF, AND OTHERS.
4. NUMEROUS REPORTS FROM HAMS AND OTHERS THAT MONITOR MILITARY COMMUNICATIONS CONFIRM SOME UNUSUAL HF ACTIVITY IN MANY PARTS OF THE U.S. INCLUDING IN REMOTE AREAS THAT NO SUCH COMM HAS BEEN HEARD FROM BEFORE.
5. REPORTS FROM NUMEROUS SOURCES TO STEVE QUAYLE ABOUT THE "BANK HOLIDAY" HAVE BEEN COMING INTO HIM STEADILY AND THEY DO CONTAIN SOME SPECIFIC BUT NOT OFFICIALLY VERIFIED REPORTS THAT ONE OF THE LARGEST BANKS IN AMERICA HAS ALREADY INFORMED THEIR BRANCH MANAGERS THAT A "BANK HOLIDAY" MAY TAKE PLACE AND THAT SIGNS FOR BRANCH WINDOWS MAY ALREADY BE MADE TELLING BANK CUSTOMERS THAT THE BANKS WILL BE CLOSED FOR A CERTAIN PERIOD OF TIME AND THAT NO DEPOSITS OR TRANSACTIONS WILL BE POSSIBLE TIL THEN. MANY LOCAL OR SMALLER BANKS MAY NOT YET HAVE ANY INDICATION OF ANY OF THIS INFORMATION NOR IF THEY DID WOULD THEY ADMIT IT.
6. FIRST HAND REPORT TO STEVE QUAYLE FROM ONE OF THE TOP PRECIOUS METAL DEALERS IN THE WORLD ......THAT THE MAJORITY OF THEIR PHYSICAL GOLD AND PLATINUM BULLION AND COINS WERE PURCHASED WEDNESDAY 10/1/2008 BY A FEW HUGE PLAYERS FROM ASIA AND THAT THEY COULD EVEN SELL MORE IF THEY CAN OBTAIN IT FROM OTHER SOURCES.
THEY ARE SOLD OUT OF ALL PHYSICAL GOLD AND PLATINUM AND THEIR SILVER WAS SOLD OUT WEEKS AGO AS STEVE REPORTED WITH THE EXCEPTION OF A SMALL QUANTITY OF FRACTIONAL GOLD.
7. CONTINUED SCUTTLEBUTT ABOUT AND THE EVIDENT HUNGER BY TPTB FOR A FALSE FLAG OR REAL FLAG ALLOWED TERROR EVENT POSSIBLY INVOLVING NUCLEAR WEAPONS TO HIT U.S. CITIES INCLUDING POSSIBLY NYC AND D.C. DURING THE FIRST WEEKS OF OCTOBER HAS CONTINUED TO PERCOLATE AND INTENSIFY, THOUGH PUBLICLY ON TV AND RADIO OF MSM IT HAS BEEN QUIETED. POSSIBLE PAKISTANI CONTROLLED "AQ OR OTHER JIHADDI" ACTORS MAY CARRY IT OUT.....ATTEMPTS TO LINK IRAN, SYRIA, AND PAKISTAN TO THE ATTACK WILL PROBABLY SURFACE REGARDLESS OF WHO SANCTIONED IT.
8. AN EARLY TIMED EMERGENCY ALERT FROM THE WEB BOT PROJECT CREATORS SAYS THAT THEIR DATA IS STILL STRONGLY INDICATING THAT FOR 10/7/2008 A HUGE MAJOR EVENT WHICH INVOLVES POSSIBLE ECONOMIC COLLAPSE AND MILITARY INVOLVEMENT MAY OCCUR. THEY HAVE BEEN PREDICITING THIS IN THEIR REPORTS FOR ALMOST A YEAR AND HAVE RECENTLY DETAILED THEIR INDICATIONS FROM THEIR PREDICTIVE MODEL SPACE ON COAST TO COAST AM RADIO AND OTHER RADIO PROGRAMS AND AS WELL AS ON GEORGE URE'S URBAN SURVIVAL WEB SITE AND ON HALF PAST HUMAN WEB SITE.
THEY HAVE BEEN HIGHLY ACCURATE ON MANY EVENTS WELL IN ADVANCE BUT SEE THEIR OWN CAVEATS ON THEIR ACCURACY AND JUDGE FOR YOURSELVES.
9. STRONG INDICATIONS FROM CHINA , RUSSIA, AND EUROPEAN BANKS THAT IF THE U.S. DOES NOT PAY THEM OFF FOR THEIR PILES OF WORTHLESS TRANCHES OF SECURITIZED MORTGAGES AND DERIVATIVE ORIENTED INSTRUMENTS ....PERHAPS EVEN IN GOLD.....THAT DIRE CONSEQUENCES MAY HAPPEN. THIS IS ALL OVER THE WORLD PRESS AND THE LANGUAGE FROM THOSE INTERNATIONAL SOURCES IS RATCHETING UP.
10. UNCANNILY TIMED APPEARANCE OF THE RUSSIAN PETER THE GREAT FLOTILLA IN THE ATLANTIC HEADED FOR VENEZUELA , RUSSIAN NAVAL MANUEVERS ONGOING WITH JAPANESE NAVY, NEW DEALS STRUCK WITH SOUTH KOREA, AND CHINESE MEEETING WITH JAPAN AT THE "WARM SPRINGS" MEETING ALL BOLSTER THE ABOVE AND PORTEND FORMATION EVENTUALLY OF THE "KINGS OF THE EAST" AND OF THE HOOK BEING IN THE JAW OF GOG OF MAGOG.
11. PROPHETIC DREAMS AND VISIONS ARE BEING HAD BY MILLIONS IN THE U.S. AND AROUND THE WORLD CONCERNING MILITARY CONFLICTS, CIVIL WAR IN THE U.S., ECONOMIC COLLAPSES, AND EVEN THE RETURN OF FALLEN ANGELS AND NEPHILIM, ANAKIM, AND REPHAIM. MANY OF THESE ARE POURING IN TO STEVE QUAYLE AND OTHERS. PERSONALLY I HAVE SEEN SOME VISIONS OF THE NEAR FUTURE MYSELF AS HAVE OTHERS I KNOW VERY WELL.
THERE ARE EXTREME SUPERNATURAL IMPLICATIONS INVOLVING ALL OF THE ABOVE AND THE WARNING. IF YOU MISS THAT YOU WILL NOT UNDERSTAND WHY IT IS HAPPENING OR HOW IT MIGHT PROGRESS. READ THE BIBLE ABOUT THE FALL OF THE ECONOMIC BABYLON, THE DESTRUCTION OF DAMASCUS, THE GOG MAGOG WAR, AND ALL OF THE REVELATIONS OF JESUS TO JOHN OF PATMOS. READ MATHEW 24, READ EZEKIEL 38 & 39, READ DANIEL AND ALL OF THE PROPHETS.
12. ONCE AGAIN THIS IS MEANT AS A WATCHMAN'S WARNING AND YOU SHOULD TAKE THIS TO THE LORD IN PRAYER. YOUR RESPONSE TO IT AND ANY ACTIONS OR REACTIONS TO THIS INFORMATION ARE YOUR OWN.
WHAT SOME I KNOW ARE DOING
1. PRAYING FOR PROTECTION AND GUIDANCE TO LORD JESUS CHRIST
2. MANY ARE SELLING THEIR SECURITIES AND TAKING LARGE % OF THEIR MONEY OUT OF THEIR BANKS WHILE SOME OTHERS ARE TAKING ENOUGH FOR SAY A MONTH.
3. LAST MINUTE PURCHASING OF QUANTITIES OF FOOD , WATER AND PURIFICATION SUPPLIES, PURCHASING OF FIRE ARMS AND AMMO, NBC GEAR, MEDICAL SUPPLIES, GASOLINE (WHICH IS ALREADY SHORT IN THE SOUTH EAST) , AND CAMPING EQUIPMENT AND TOOLS.
4. MANY ARE BUGGING OUT FOR AT LEAST A FEW DAYS OR A WEEK...AT WHICH TIME THEY WILL REVIEW THE SITUATION......MANY I KNOW ARE LEAVING FRIDAY AFTER WORK OR EARLY SATURDAY. SOME ARE MAKING LAST MINUTE PREPARATIONS FOR PROTECTION OF THEIR HOMES TO SHELTER IN......AND SOME I KNOW ARE TAKING OFF FOR GOOD TO THEIR PREPARED REMOTE SHELTERS OR HOMES OR TO THEIR HOMES IN FOREIGN COUNTRIES
5. WHAT YOU DO IS BETWEEN YOU AND THE LORD. USE YOUR OWN JUDGEMENT BASED UPON THAT RELATIONSHIP WITH HIM. IF YOU DO NOT HAVE A RELATIONSHIP WITH THE LORD JESUS CHRIST, THEN REPENT AND ASK HIM TO COME INTO YOUR LIFE AND PROTECT AND GUIDE YOU.
ALL GLORY TO LORD JESUS, AND I HAVE FULFILLED MY OBLIGATIONS TO HIM FOR NOW REGARDING THIS WARNING TO YOU.
MAY HE PROTECT US ALL FROM EVIL AND USE US WHERE HE NEEDS US.
Hawk
cafetimes1991
11-08-2009, 04:48 PM
Thanks, Hawk. THAT WAS A REALLY INTERESTING ARTICLE.
Seriously though, it was.
But I'd say nothing will happen...
hank_scorpio
11-08-2009, 04:56 PM
Is it ok if I pray to the sun god horus which is the same depiction as jesus historically.
killmicrosoft
11-08-2009, 04:59 PM
10/4/2008 ??????????????????
You pray to whoever you want. Me, I'm not religious.
Cafetimes, If something does happen, it will be your own fault for not getting your money out sooner rather than later.
All I know is to pass it on. Read the entire thing at the top, it is not my words. These are the words of somebody else who uses the name hawk.
No relation.
There is supposed to be another banking holiday declared either in August/September 2009!!!That's why I posted this!!
Just be on the lookout for anything in your areas when the banks in your areas suddenly declare a banking hoiday if ever.
cafetimes1991
11-08-2009, 05:22 PM
Cafetimes, If something does happen, it will be your own fault for not getting your money out sooner rather than later.
I don't have any. :D
Might suggest it to my parents... actually, can't risk being put on medication.
dankai
11-08-2009, 05:26 PM
Also interesting...
http://www.prolognet.qc.ca/clyde/camp.htm
The word is that the bonds are being used to cover some of this debt but they are not worth anything. My feeling is that if the economy goes bust like alot of people believe, then we will see a real run on the banks.
There are idiots who think the recession is over. It's not. This little hiccup is designed to make people think the worst is over when in reality it could be the beginning of the end.
People in real estate think the economy is coming back. I have the feeling that it will be allowed to go only so high,then it will crash again. California is an example of this. See? Detroit City is a prime example of a rust belt. You will see alot of these in the future. They cannot keep propping up a dead economy. It doesn't even make sense to in the long run. No self respecting economist in their right mind would dare come out on television and say to the public the worst is over.
All I can say is just keep a watch out and see what happens in the next few weeks.
rodin
11-08-2009, 05:34 PM
Also interesting...
http://www.prolognet.qc.ca/clyde/camp.htm
I have a problem with this truth
They’ll hire foreigners for this ‘cappo’ task. Cappo (‘chief’ in Italian) was the title of the trustee prisoners who actually killed many Jews for the SS butchers at Dachau, and at other Nazi crematoria across Europe.
pri01
11-08-2009, 05:37 PM
You pray to whoever you want. Me, I'm not religious.
Cafetimes, If something does happen, it will be your own fault for not getting your money out sooner rather than later.
All I know is to pass it on. Read the entire thing at the top, it is not my words. These are the words of somebody else who uses the name hawk.
No relation.
There is supposed to be another banking holiday declared either in August/September 2009!!!That's why I posted this!!
Just be on the lookout for anything in your areas when the banks in your areas suddenly declare a banking hoiday if ever.
I don't think cash will have any value if the banks go under. The shops will get ransacked and looted so there will be nowhere to spend it and nothing to spend it on. I'm afraid the currency of the day should this happen will be food, water etc.
cleopatraxxx
11-08-2009, 05:40 PM
October 2, 2008
Hawk
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THE WARNING
THERE IS STRONG INDICATION THAT A "BANK HOLIDAY" UNDER A DECLARATION OF AN ECONOMIC EMERGENCY MAY BE DECLARED IN THE U.S. SOMETIME WITHIN THE NEXT 2 WEEKS AND POSSIBLY AS EARLY AS SATURDAY 10/4/2008.
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2008
october 2008?????????????????
cafetimes1991
11-08-2009, 05:42 PM
Cleopatra, your avatar was perfect for that last post.
banking holiday in September 7 EXTENDED INDEFINITE because of USA states bankruptcy
link:www.***********************
If California files for bankruptcy this could be the start of it all. That's the argument. September 7th is Labor day. Now why would they pick a day like that?
46 Of 50 States Could File Bankruptcy In 2009-2010
With neighboring California on the verge of bankruptcy this year, many States will follow in their steps.
Many States are already scurrying to cut unwanted costs, cut State-funded programs, raise taxes, not issue tax refunds to their citizens, and borrow money just to survive in 2009. Unfortunately, many banks — the same banks the Fed bailed out — are refusing to loan money to the States and their Treasury agencies.
The article, State Budget Troubles Worsen, at the Center on Budget and Policy Priorities website is an excellent piece to read. It shows where each State currently stands in these challenging economic times, and you see 46 of the 50 States are clearly in the financial red.
It’s very possible you’ll see the end of the United States as we know it. If the Fed doesn’t bailout the States when their cash dries up and the banks don’t loan them money, then our States will be left in financial ruin. This would be a tragic and unprecedented event never experienced in the United States.
No State has ever filed bankruptcy, but it could be coming to a State near you this year.
We are on the brink of something far worse than the Great Depression.
Does it start to make sense now?
rodin
11-08-2009, 05:46 PM
banking holiday in September 7 EXTENDED INDEFINITE because of USA states bankruptcy
link:www.***********************
If California files for bankruptcy this could be the start of it all. That's the argument. September 7th is Labor day. Now why would they pick a day like that?
46 Of 50 States Could File Bankruptcy In 2009-2010
With neighboring California on the verge of bankruptcy this year, many States will follow in their steps.
Many States are already scurrying to cut unwanted costs, cut State-funded programs, raise taxes, not issue tax refunds to their citizens, and borrow money just to survive in 2009. Unfortunately, many banks — the same banks the Fed bailed out — are refusing to loan money to the States and their Treasury agencies.
The article, State Budget Troubles Worsen, at the Center on Budget and Policy Priorities website is an excellent piece to read. It shows where each State currently stands in these challenging economic times, and you see 46 of the 50 States are clearly in the financial red.
It’s very possible you’ll see the end of the United States as we know it. If the Fed doesn’t bailout the States when their cash dries up and the banks don’t loan them money, then our States will be left in financial ruin. This would be a tragic and unprecedented event never experienced in the United States.
No State has ever filed bankruptcy, but it could be coming to a State near you this year.
We are on the brink of something far worse than the Great Depression.
Does it start to make sense now?
This is quite plausible as it was foretold in the Protocols of the Sages of Zion and we are following that script
Cleopatrixx. The story is old but what I am trying to do is show you that if it happens once,then its possible to happen again.
Try tying it together and with everything that has happened so far, what do you think will happen?
dankai
11-08-2009, 05:49 PM
This is quite plausible as it was foretold in the Protocols of the Sages of Zion and we are following that script
Agreed.
Financial experts have been predicting for some time that a legal bank holiday, such as Labor Day, will be the beginning of an extended bank holiday. In other words, to make it simple, banks will be closed on Labor Day and will NOT reopen, for how long nobody knows.
That's what I'm trying to get across to you. This started in 2008 but look how bad things have gotten in just nearly a yr?
rodin
11-08-2009, 05:53 PM
Financial experts have been predicting for some time that a legal bank holiday, such as Labor Day, will be the beginning of an extended bank holiday. In other words, to make it simple, banks will be closed on Labor Day and will NOT reopen, for how long nobody knows.
Possibly never. Imagine the scenes in a just in time interdependent society. Third world would do OK - first, forget it
ex sheep
11-08-2009, 05:55 PM
I just hope you are not right, but I have a feeling something is just around the corner.
That's what worries me rodin. If this does happen, we are just f******.
lizzy
11-08-2009, 05:55 PM
Cleopatrixx. The story is old but what I am trying to do is show you that if it happens once,then its possible to happen again.
Try tying it together and with everything that has happened so far, what do you think will happen?
Yes hawk, it's just begun.......with far worse to come.....it will be worse than the Great Depression because we are'nt going to pull out of this one....
It's third world status for all..........(whilst they cull us)
flip side
11-08-2009, 05:58 PM
Would the Fed not inject more money into the system to create hyperinflation before they did this?
cleopatraxxx
11-08-2009, 06:00 PM
Cleopatra, your avatar was perfect for that last post.
lol
, tnx
actually it fits in many posts here, hehe
but i would actually worry becasue of this WARNING on HAWKS website
http://www.stevequayle.com/News.alert/08_Hawk/090810.threat.alert.html
Hawk Threat Alert:
Air Assets Will be Used Against Populace and Police in CONUS
August 10, 2009
Hawk
On Friday 8/7/2009 information from deep background sources pertaining to Meeting Content from high levels of Federal Government concerned the following:
1. The new Interoperability of Communications system which has linked City, County, and State Police communications to the Federal Agenices and Northcom including all foreign troops and mercenaries will be used to.........Impede and Shutdown local Police comms so that effective containment of civil unrest due to upcoming Flu Pandemic/Dollar Collapse will nearly impossible. The U.S. Mil/Federal LEO Agencies/Intel Agencies Luciferian faction wants the local Police to fail so that EXTERNAL FORCES WILL BE BROUGHT IN HARD AGAINST THE U.S. POPULACE AND AGAINST THE POLICE AS WELL.
2. If necessary Police vehicles will be taken out by force to ensure that response to riots, uprisings, and civil disobedience will fail and allow a Mad Max scenario to run full measure , hence giving pretext for usage of Northcom Troops, Foreign Troops, and Mercenaries against Americans.
3. Medical personnel including Doctors, Nurses, EMT's, and other and Hospital personnel will be precluded from offering effective medical response to the Flu Pandemic and treatment of injuries due to the civil uprising and military style attack upon the populace.......ostensibly this will be initially done by LOCKING DOWN HOSPITALS , CLINICS, AND DR. OFFICES UNDER GUISE OF PROTECTING THEM.....BUT REALLY TO ENSURE MAX KILL FROM PANDEMIC BIOLOGICALS AND SHOOT TO KILL ORDERS OF TROOPS INTERNAL AND EXTERNAL.
4. SIGNIFICANT AIR ASSETS WILL BE BROUGHT TO BEAR AGAINST THE AMERICAN POPULACE AND ANY POLICE WHO RESIST ......INCLUDING HELICOPTER GUN SHIPS, ARMED DRONES, FIGHTER AIRCRAFT, LARGER C-130 AND "SPOOKY" WEAPONS PLATFORMS, AND TANK BUSTER TYPE AIRCRAFT. ALSO, EXPECTED USE OF KNOCK-OUT GASES AND IF NEEDED NERVE AGENTS IS INDICATED.
THIS WILL HAPPEN IN CONJUNCTION WITH VEHICLE, ARMOR, AND AIRBORNE OPERATIONS WHICH WILL PLACE NORTHCOM, FOREIGN TROOPS , AND MERCENARY TROOPS INTO SELECTED TARGET AREAS FOR SEARCH AND DESTROY AND CONTAINMENT OPERATIONS.
Note that exact date or timing was not available but it is expected very soon.
The local, county, and state Police should immediately obtain for their own usage .....PRIVATE RADIO COMMUNCIATIONS GEAR so that they will be able communicate with each other in the event that the FEDS and Military come up with a SNAFU scenario in the new Interoperability Net perhaps from real or false flag cyber problems or just system glitches they will say have taken place. For aware Americans the heads up here is self explanatory for actions needed to protect their families, property , and themselves. BE VIGILANT AND READY.
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Saturday night 8//8/09 thru O'dark 30's of Sunday AM ....... Report of large Foreign Air Assets convoy needing refueling by U.S. Mil air tankers was given ............STANDARD PROCEDURES WERE NOT FOLLOWED AND FOREIGN AIR ASSETS WERE TOLD TO GIVE MEANS OF PAYMENT INFORMATION TO NATIONAL COMM CENTER. THEY GAVE CODED NUMBERS NOT STANDARD N NUMBERS FOR THEIR AIRCRAFT. NO COUNTRY OF ORIGIN WAS NAMED AND ALL COMMS AND PROCEDURES ONCE AGAIN WERE HIGHLY NON STANDARD PER SOURCES.
THIS CONVOY OF FOREIGN AIR ASSETS WAS TO LAND INSIDE CONUS AT A REMOTE BASE , STAY OVERNIGHT , AND THEN BE DEPLOYED TO ANOTHER BASE OR BASES INSIDE CONUS.
SOME INDICATION OF POSSIBLY WEST TEXAS WAS GLEANED THOUGH NOT CERTAIN. IF THAT ANALYSIS IS CORRECT THEN IT IS POSSIBLE FT. BLISS ON THE TEXAS AND NEW MEXICO LINE MAY HAVE BEEN THE DESTINATION THOUGH THIS NOT CONFIRMED.
OBVIOUS RAMIFICATIONS GIVEN THE ABOVE ALERT OF SIGNIFICANT AIR ASSETS TO BE USED AGAINST AMERICAN POPULACE AND POLICE, OR MILITARY RESISTING THE LUCIFERIAN FACTION TROOPS AND ASSETS ARE THAT THESE FOREIGN AIR UNITS ARE TO BE PART OF THAT EXTERNAL FORCE THAT WILL HAMMER DOWN ON AMERICAN CITIES, TOWNS , OR RURAL AREAS DURING MARTIAL LAW.
ALSO, THE MARTIAL LAW COMMAND WHICH HAS BEEN UP AND RUNNING SINCE SEPTEMBER 2008 AS I REPORTED BACK THEN, HAS BEEN HEARD IN COMM WITH UNITS IN MANY DIFFERENT STATES including Texas, West Va., New York, Washington, and North Carolina over this past weekend.
BE READY AND VIGILANT FROM NOW ON OUT. THE LUCIFERIAN ILLUMINATI AND THEIR MINIONS WANT YOU FOR SACRIFICE.
THERE IS POWER IN THE BLOOD OF JESUS
Hawk
radford
11-08-2009, 06:05 PM
This is all very "Alex Jones". The reality is that foreign troops are not going to take over the USA. The armies of the rest of the World are stretched enough in any case in Afganistan and other UN forces.
I dont believe Martial Law will be imposed in the USA unless there is a major natural disaster. In addition I cant see them taking USA citizens to gas chambers.
But - it is quite clear that the economic situation at the moment is precarious for the USA and the World. Therefore, hard times and food shortages and bankruptacies will continue and could in the end hit the USA.
At the moment many people are posting "Hollywood" style "plots" on these types of messageboards as "reality" and based on very little hard evidence.
I am in no doubt that the NWO wants to run the World for their own benefit. But they need "slave labour" which is the current economic system in order to be the "elite". There is no point in being the "elite" above a dead population.
The changes and awakening that is certainly taking place needs to be brought into some sort of focus. We can read all manner of prophecies and religious books - and theories. We can see the Webbot having spectacular success by just analysing net language. Do we play a part in creating our own futures ? The bible suggest we might do ( Whenever two or three are gathered .....) and many New Age philosophies suggest this as well.
If that is the case then spreading negative fear based scenarios is actually not a good thing. In addition the economy is important but it should not be seen as "everything" in our lives. Surely we have more in our lives than money ?
The idea of getting guns and shooting other people in order to "survive" is pretty extreme. What does that achieve. Even soldiers and police have families and friends.
Every extreme religious group is trying to whip up some apocalyptic fervour at the moment - and yes one day we will leave/die - but whilst we are alive surely it is better to live each day positively rather than cowering in fear and as Queen would say "waiting for the hammer to fall".
There is nothing to fear. Love will overcome all this rubbish. As awakened people ( of all beliefs? ) surely we can see through the fear agenda and show love rather than fear in this current changing situation ? I hope so.
Enjoy your life - your family - your friends - you work. Make a difference and dont worry. Yes protect your food supply if you decide to - makes good sense at all times to be fair - but dont look for shadows where there are none. The NWO - Illuminati - Evil will not prevail. We know that from every text ever written. So dont have any fear.
cleopatraxxx
11-08-2009, 06:07 PM
Cleopatrixx. The story is old but what I am trying to do is show you that if it happens once,then its possible to happen again.
Try tying it together and with everything that has happened so far, what do you think will happen?
i agree
THANK YOU HAWK
i did connect the dots in manynthing already
the bigger picture is clear. very clear
specailly after reading
"Report of large Foreign Air Assets convoy needing refueling by U.S. Mil air tankers was given ..... (http://www.stevequayle.com/News.alert/08_Hawk/090810.threat.alert.html).......STANDARD PROCEDURES WERE NOT FOLLOWED AND FOREIGN AIR ASSETS WERE TOLD TO GIVE MEANS OF PAYMENT INFORMATION TO NATIONAL COMM CENTER. THEY GAVE CODED NUMBERS NOT STANDARD N NUMBERS FOR THEIR AIRCRAFT. NO COUNTRY OF ORIGIN WAS NAMED AND ALL COMMS AND PROCEDURES ONCE AGAIN WERE HIGHLY NON STANDARD PER SOURCES."
motleyhoo
11-08-2009, 06:08 PM
Steve Quayle was on Coast to Coast discussing this among other things last night. I used to think the guy was an alarmist and a bit over the top. But the events of the last 18 months have changed my mind.
We all have to KNOW that the economy is getting worse not better. The reasons that there is a stock market rally going on and slight improvements in some economic indicators has nothing to do with the underlying economy, but is rather being caused by some deregulation that happened after the crash that is allowing the banks and financial houses to cook their books even more than they were before. Their reports of making profits last quarter are complete fiction. They are being allowed to hide losses, and they are being allowed to reprice their worthless assets to anything they want to price them at and then call that profit. It's a complete sham.
Look at what is really going on. Bankruptcies, foreclosures, pink slips are still rising, and the credit markets are still locked for anyone that isn't in the crony banking network. Both residential and commercial real estate values are still falling. All of the inadequacies in our laws and regulations that allowed the housig bubble to be orchestrated are still there. Not one single thing has been fixed, and in fact the banks successfully lobbied to have even more deregulation put into place so that they could hide just how fraudulent their activities are and how insolvent they really are. Instead of more transparency we have less, and all as part of a plan to rob our countries of everything they can get their hands on before it all comes crashing down.
I don't know if it is going to happen in 2 weeks, 2 months, or 2 years, but it is going to happen. AND there is a good chance that this whole ficticious flu hysteria is part of it. Our own armies are even being mobilized to operate on our own soil as part of a national flu emergency. They are settiing us up to play both emergencies (the flu and the financial collapse) against each other, blaming each for the cause of the other when in fact they both have been orchestrated by criminals who do not give a shit about people.
Steve also agrees with me in thinking that the new flu vaccine is being designed to turn the recipients into walking carriers of the disease, but that what they will be carrying is going to be far worse than the normal swine flu. It won't happen during the trials, because that is going to be an inert placebo used to show everyone how safe the vaccine is. MARK MY WORDS - stay away from anyone who gets the flu shots. It could save your life. And put some money into something tangible like gold or silver (not an ETF, not SLV, and not GLD). It doesn't matter how much cash you have under your mattress when inflation hits 1,000%, and stocks are going to be worthless.
Many major earthquakes begin with false tremors, and in IMO what we have seen so far is just that. The real quake is yet to come. I am not usually a doomsdayer, but there is somethign very weird going on.
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real6
11-08-2009, 06:10 PM
I posted something similar a few weeks back:
2 Japanese Detained with $134 Billion in Bonds
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1137784&postcount=185
flip side
11-08-2009, 06:11 PM
This is all very "Alex Jones". The reality is that foreign troops are not going to take over the USA. The armies of the rest of the World are stretched enough in any case in Afganistan and other UN forces.
I dont believe Martial Law will be imposed in the USA unless there is a major natural disaster. In addition I cant see them taking USA citizens to gas chambers.
But - it is quite clear that the economic situation at the moment is precarious for the USA and the World. Therefore, hard times and food shortages and bankruptacies will continue and could in the end hit the USA.
At the moment many people are posting "Hollywood" style "plots" on these types of messageboards as "reality" and based on very little hard evidence.
I am in no doubt that the NWO wants to run the World for their own benefit. But they need "slave labour" which is the current economic system in order to be the "elite". There is no point in being the "elite" above a dead population.
The changes and awakening that is certainly taking place needs to be brought into some sort of focus. We can read all manner of prophecies and religious books - and theories. We can see the Webbot having spectacular success by just analysing net language. Do we play a part in creating our own futures ? The bible suggest we might do ( Whenever two or three are gathered .....) and many New Age philosophies suggest this as well.
If that is the case then spreading negative fear based scenarios is actually not a good thing. In addition the economy is important but it should not be seen as "everything" in our lives. Surely we have more in our lives than money ?
The idea of getting guns and shooting other people in order to "survive" is pretty extreme. What does that achieve. Even soldiers and police have families and friends.
Every extreme religious group is trying to whip up some apocalyptic fervour at the moment - and yes one day we will leave/die - but whilst we are alive surely it is better to live each day positively rather than cowering in fear and as Queen would say "waiting for the hammer to fall".
There is nothing to fear. Love will overcome all this rubbish. As awakened people ( of all beliefs? ) surely we can see through the fear agenda and show love rather than fear in this current changing situation ? I hope so.
Enjoy your life - your family - your friends - you work. Make a difference and dont worry. Yes protect your food supply if you decide to - makes good sense at all times to be fair - but dont look for shadows where there are none. The NWO - Illuminati - Evil will not prevail. We know that from every text ever written. So dont have any fear.
^^^This^^^
Good post Radford
kodiak
11-08-2009, 06:11 PM
Is it ok if I pray to the sun god horus which is the same depiction as jesus historically.
Hmm, well a lot of Protestant scholars disdainfully regarded the Roman Catholicised version of Jesus as the sun god Horus.
cleopatraxxx
11-08-2009, 06:13 PM
Steve Quayle was on Coast to Coast discussing this among other things last night. I used to think the guy was an alarmist and a bit over the top. But the events of the last 18 months have changed my mind.
We all have to KNOW that the economy is getting worse not better. The reasons that there is a stock market rally going on and slight improvements in some economic indicators has nothing to do with the underlying economy, but is rather being caused by some deregulation that happened after the crash that is allowing the banks and financial houses to cook their books even more than they were before. Their reports of making profits last quarter are complete fiction. They are being allowed to hide losses, and they are being allowed to reprice their worthless assets to anything they want to price them at and then call that profit. It's a complete sham.
Look at what is really going on. Bankruptcies, foreclosures, pink slips are still rising, and the credit markets are still locked for anyone that isn't in the crony banking network. Both residential and commercial real estate values are still falling. All of the inadequacies in our laws and regulations that allowed the housig bubble to be orchestrated are still there. Not one single thing has been fixed, and in fact the banks successfully lobbied to have even more deregulation put into place so that they could hide just how fraudulent their activities are and how insolvent they really are. Instead of more transparency we have less, and all as part of a plan to rob our countries of everything they can get their hands on before it all comes crashing down.
I don't know if it is going to happen in 2 weeks, 2 months, or 2 years, but it is going to happen. AND there is a good chance that this whole ficticious flu hysteria is part of it. Our own armies are even being mobilized to operate on our own soil as part of a national flu emergency. They are settiing us up to play both emergencies (the flu and the financial collapse) against each other, blaming each for the cause of the other when in fact they both have been orchestrated by criminals who do not give a shit about people.
Steve also agrees with me in thinking that the new flu vaccine is being designed to turn the recipients into walking carriers of the disease, but that what they will be carrying is going to be far worse than the normal swine flu. It won't happen during the trials, because that is going to be an inert placebo used to show everyone how safe the vaccine is. MARK MY WORDS - stay away from anyone who gets the flu shots. It could save your life. And put some money into something tangible like gold or silver (not an ETF, not SLV, and not GLD). It doesn't matter how much cash you have under your mattress when inflation hits 1,000%, and stocks are going to be worthless.
Many major earthquakes begin with false tremors, and in IMO what we have seen so far is just that. The real quake is yet to come. I am not usually a doomsdayer, but there is somethign very weird going on.
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i back your words. every one
definitely the swine flu is fully connected to this.
adn OBAMA is no savior! he is the betrayal.
radford
11-08-2009, 06:15 PM
You say your own Army is being mobilised ( USA ? ) there is no evidence of anything like this going on in the UK where most of our army is abroad - which is where I thought the USA army was as well ?
I cant see one bit of hard evidence to suggest a martial law takeover of the USA anywhere in a single article anywhere on the internet. Anyone care to point me to an actual plan - or a single build up of these foreign troops outside of normal troop movements.
This all is fear motivated stuff. Yes the economy could crash - but then if the USA people are decent they wont riot - what do they gain through that ? you cant impose martial law unless there is a need to do so. In anycase the public must outnumber the remaining soldiers in the USA by 1000 to 1 or more. It is just not possible.
David Icke said earlier this year : Dont Riot - that is what THEY want.
I agree - we need to stay calm and protect our own resources and live our lives with no fear and normally. By doing this they have NO control over us.
At the moment those who get so excited by all of this rumourmongering play right into the hands of the NWO. They paralyse people through fear. That is not a positive message. It is not going to help anyone get through any crisis of any sort. It is almost setting some people up as "Rabbits in the headlights" - so either provide hard evidence for these things or please stop spreading fear.
motleyhoo
11-08-2009, 06:27 PM
They are not physically mobilized, but laws/programs have quietly been passed to put this into motion, and the training has been going on for months now. The prisons, I mean quarantine sites, I mean FEMA camps, I mean national morgues, have already been built. I don't know the names of these laws, but they're listed on Quayle's site and on prisonplanet.
For one example, look up the "Model State Emergency Health Powers Act" that was recently passed in the US. If we have it, then you know the UK has it, even tho very few people have ever heard of it. That's because our media is owned by the very same people who devise these plans.
There was another act passed recently giving the UN and WHO control of our medical systems on a national level in times of crisis. These are the same people who concocted the fake "pandemic level 6" alert, which because of the act is mow all they need to come in and inject and quarantine people. Imagine showing up to work one day, seeing FEMA/WHO officials there in masks and gloves, and being told that if you don't get the shot then you are a risk and must go home without pay. This is exactly what it is coming to and they are telling us this right to our faces if folks would wake up and care to listen
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radford
11-08-2009, 07:09 PM
Emergency planning laws have been in place since legislation was a baby. Yes the WHO has grabbed potential extra powers. So what you are saying is that the WHO is going to initiate a war against the USA people ? with the collusion of the USA Government who have helpfully built facilities in order to help them with this aim ?
Sorry but I still see no evidence for this ? In the UK each council has indentified emergency plans since the 60s where schools or leisure centres can be used in case of large air disasters - crashes - floods etc. but this does not mean they want martial law.
You are making a step from a flu virus to an all out war on USA citizens. How can you make such a big step with no evidence.
If the WHO is so evil and so in control of the World - why is there no evidence about this. I might add that I live approx 1 mile from the WHO HQ in the UK ( One of 4 of their HQs in the World ) and have never seen anything to be suspicious of - and never heard of any local gossip about anything untoward going on there.
I dont doubt that emergency plans are in place for every eventuality ( especially after Katrina ) But show me how they link with the WHO and flu and so on.
I just think that fear is the weapon being used to stop people actually seeing the reality that they are being fleeced by the NWO daily at the moment. The banks have stolen ALL our money - and yet we are still totally in denial about this ! Sorry but martial law wont occur because of Swine Flu in the USA this year. If riots break out because of an economic collapse then sadly those people rioting only have themselves to blame.
I have read threads like this for years and years - and they never come to fruition because though it could come true - it is more a movie plot than a real situation. You are extrapolating information out of innocent things that does not exist - you are making jumps from a set of circumstances to the worst possible case scenario that you can imagine with no line of evidence. Just a starting position and an end position.
For it to be more than just fearmongering I would like to see someone actually set out the steps that would happen between A and Z. Not just say because A is happening then we will get to Z almost immediately.
Sorry folks, I'm babysitting at the moment.Had to take a lunch break for awhile.
See, this started during an election year right? The recession really hit hard last yr,too. So, they get Obama in and he starts working on everything left and right, signing bills into laws that nobody has heard of.
Ok,now he promised more jobs in the future, so far, nothing really.
Everyone says the economy is turning around.I don't beleive it. This post from 2008 was quite possibly meant for 2009/2010.
Now radford just because you don't see it out right doesn't mean something is not happening. There is such a thing as covert operations.
I talked with a guy on another forum glp? and he is military and i asked him about this part where if they were forced to put guns to the people's heads to force these vaccinations, ok? He said those are illegal orders. And he also said theyhave orders not to obey those orders.
Becuz I asked him out right if he could shoot a kid in front of their parents? he said no,and he would not do it.
so, the miliatry knows about all this stuff. Law enforcement officials do,too.
Youcan glean more out of the military guys than youcan local law enforcement becuz the military feels as though God and country first. Local law enforcement has been given too much power and I feel they are exploiting it. Big difference there.
Now radford youcan believe what youwant,but to me it is imperative that people try their best to figure thisout for themselves. Like I said earlier, I am not religious,ok?
But the warning was made in 2008 mainly becuz it was an election yr. Get the guy into office then crank up the heat.
The economy is not getting better, they can lie all they want to on the telivision, but so far I am not seeing any real progress being made. If California does file for bankruptcy,then other states will possibly follow. But there is no more money to be had,ok?
Our troops are over in Afghanistan and in Iraq, fighting shit that shouldn't be fought in the first place.
(They) meaning the elite, are fighting over resources, gold, silver, copper, oil, trees, everything they can get out of this planet. They have leaders who answer to the higher ups. People you and I don't see in the limelight. These are the ones who are controlling everything right down to your next paycheck.
These people are practically gods,if you will permit me to say, that our leaders practically worship. They remain hidden because we as humans cannot look at them and understand with our thinking why this is happening. We're not wired that way.
People think this is all left or right political bullshit. It's not political, it's deeper than politics.
That's why David Icke keeps telling people don't look on the surface, look deeper and go into the rabbit hole. See how far it goes.
danster82
11-08-2009, 08:03 PM
AS EARLY AS SATURDAY 10/4/2008
This it out of date... and therefore all his predictions where wrong.
radford
11-08-2009, 08:06 PM
Thanks for that Hawk.
I agree with you that "something is going on" I agree with you that there seems to be a black hole at the heart of World finance ( probably due to them over-leveraging at a level which they cant pay back unless we are in a boom time ) Yes they are lying about how good/bad things are - but to try and stop panic first and foremost. But to protect their own positions - hence they took the Bailout money FIRST to underpin themselves as everyone else saw their job and property failing.
What you are saying is important if it is true. But if it is based on a hunch or a few people then it is also irresponsible. You are right we need to see down the rabbit hole - and also as awake people we need to evaluate each piece of information fed to us by the MSM - but also by everyone else on here.
This does not mean any of us need to "prove" that we are right. But what it does mean is that we need to take a step back and try and connect the dots.
How do YOU think the WHO and the USA Government could go from a Swine Flu crisis to Martial Law ? Some have suggested that if vaccines are made compulsory and done at Gunpoint that might upset the population and lead to Civil Unrest that may then lead to some sort of martial law. But that is a very simplistic thing.
At this precise moment in time we all know Tamiflu and the Vaccines are wrong and dont help. We know this "Play" is about money - the Big Pharma have asked for a bailout - and this is "Their Bailout" as far as I can see. If it is to go futher than that I would be suprised and that is why I want something that says YES - there are people waiting in the wings to exploit this situation. Only that way can we see what is happening and deal with it.
The USA and UK have been pysche damaged by 9.11 and Katrina and 7.7. - regardless of whom was responsible it has undermined many people's belief that life is "safe". This has led to all of us worrying and being in fear at a level not seen apart from in Wartime. I understand that - but many people are running without the ball in the hope that the answer will drop out of the sky.
Spreading fear is not good in my view because it tends to make people make bad decisions ( Like the rabbits ) That is why we need to try and unpick what we are seeing - even if it is only the "movie" we are being shown.
I realise that in some areas in the USA things are bad compared to how they were a few years ago. But how to we go from a recession to martial law ? it did not happen during the Spanish Flu in 1918 - or during the recessions of the 1930s and not even during World War 2. So how can a Swine Flu outbreak lead to this ? or even an economic collapse ?
A major natural disaster can lead to this - such as an asteroid impact - a Tsunami - an earthquake which destroys a large area - similarly a hurricane that does the same - or even a Solar Storm with radiation. But we cant predict any of these with certainty. They may happen one day - anyplace - anytime. So why fear such things. We would all go and live in a cave and put our head under the duvet if we realised how dangerous living on a piece of rock spinning round a nuclear reactor at 5,000mph really is !!!
Lets calm down and present such information in a calm way so that we can discuss whether or not there is any hard information in the claims or whether we are just seeing an opinion based on feelings. Which may or may not be true.
asha loka
11-08-2009, 08:09 PM
AS EARLY AS SATURDAY 10/4/2008
This it out of date... and therefore all his predictions where wrong.
The First Law of Doomsterism - no prediction of doom is ever wrong.
At best it just hasn't happened yet.
If this healthcare debate goes wacko, there's your martial law. That's what I'm trying to get you to understand. It's like we are being pushed and pushed and pushed until we cannot take anymore.
People are tired, and worried but nobody in our govt cares.Because it's not about what we want. It's about what TPTB want. We are just in the way.
If this gov't cared about it's people they would have never have let this recession or even the last 200 plus yrs take place like they did.
You know it's bad when the congressmen and women have the balls to tell the people that basically to sit down shut up and take it.
Folks are not gonna stand for this. They can't.
AS EARLY AS SATURDAY 10/4/2008
This it out of date... and therefore all his predictions where wrong.
Danster, I think this was done becuz it was an election yr. Now that it is over, they are pushing this as fast and as hard as they can.
Radford, this is just part of what people are screaming about.
http://www.nypost.com/seven/07242009/postopinion/opedcolumnists/deadly_doctors_180941.htm
Largejack sent it to another thread. But can you understand why there is need for something to be done?
To tptb it's all about every dme they can squeeze out of us. Even if it means that elderly person has to die for it.
radford
11-08-2009, 08:25 PM
Yes - the healthcare bill seems to be creating conflict. It is something we dont understand in the UK because we have the NHS.
Is it just breaking down on Party lines ? it seems that the USA is deeply divided between Conservatives/Liberals and Democrats. For instance are these Town Hall debates leading to conflict in say New York or LA or Chicago ? or is it just in more rural states ? It is hard to get a picture of all of this. The USA is a big country with many different facets - so to generalise is very difficult.
The Government has undermined the people in both the USA and UK in recent years. They have pushed all of us. Many are frustrated but are able to continue to function. I think there are more awake people now in both countries than ever before - many not going public with it.
But surely if they are intentionally pushing the people the worst thing to do would be to react and fight back ? That way they could perhaps find the excuse to impose the law. It has been proven in history that non co-operation peacefully changes things quicker than any rioting. None of us want to be ruled by an invisible elite I agree. So lets keep getting up their nose by being right and by not jumping to their plans. By not fearing these things. For instance they can build thousands of camps - but if they cant impose Martial Law then they will remain empty. They can plan mass vaccines but if the people demand the freedom not to have it I cant see them rounding up people at gunpoint. It would not be a reasonable response by government to such a situation.
We stand our ground. We do not riot. We show love and compassion to all those around us of all races and beliefs. By doing so we undermine their plans to enslave us even more than they have already. Also if the economy does go further under then they lose more of their control. At the end of the day if we revert back to co-operatives amongst ourselves then the Big Companies and Big Pharma and Big Everything will wither and fail. We keep them going at the moment. If they take us on WE as a people can pull the rug out from under them at any moment.
Of course if you think they will engineer nuclear conflict and even worse bio disease than Swine Flu to depopulate the planet then we are in big trouble. But as many point out - chaos is not exactly good for the elite. Fallout would effect them - disease can effect them as well. What is the point of ruling a world where most of it has been turned to dust. This equally applies to any "ET"/dimensional threat as well if you are thinking that the threat may not only be of our world.
The Survival Forum on here gives good advice about strategies for different instances. Be positive about the future and be prepared. There really is no need to fear anything.
Obama is on tv now fighting to pass this thing. I just walked into the living rooom and saw him on there.
radford
11-08-2009, 08:31 PM
can you explain why it is a good/bad thing this healthcare thing ? He did say he would do this in his election campaign and was voted in to do this. So why are people suprised that he is doing this ? has he changed what he said he was going to do ? Totally confused here accross the pond !!!
Beucz it will eliminate healthcare to elderly people, abortions willl not be in the bill to be paid for somehow. Disabled or handicapped people will not get the medical care they need. It's horrendous!
I want to find a entire complete copy of this bill. where the heck can I find it?
rodin
11-08-2009, 08:35 PM
Yes hawk, it's just begun.......with far worse to come.....it will be worse than the Great Depression because we are'nt going to pull out of this one....
It's third world status for all..........(whilst they cull us)
At least 3rd world have a land to mouth food supply
read post #40. click that link.
rodin
11-08-2009, 08:39 PM
That's what worries me rodin. If this does happen, we are just f******.
Well of course the farms still have the animals and crops and vegetables - its the transport infrastructure that could be the choke point. If enough people woke up thay could jump in take over the infrastructure and keep it going, at least until the fuel ran out.
Its Us v the Rothschilds and their tribe. They know oil is food and food is life or death. Nevertheless with planning co-ordination and communication a revolution from the bottom not the top is perhaps possible. How useful would it be if all 'truth' forums focussed heavily on this and worked out a plan? First up -how to communicate and organise nationally when the internet and mobile masts get switched off?
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Hence crop circles, awakenings and the like so we waste time
That's what I'm trying to figure out at the moment.
How to make this work so that people will wake up really fast. Unfortunately, I am somewhat busy at the moment with a baby. I'll be back on later this evening around after 6pm. I'll take a look and see what response there are from others and how they feel about this entire economy/healthcare mess.
You just cannot say I will not cooperate because that is what they are counting on. A quiet peaceful demonstration sometimes doesn't work.
Sometimes I think even God does condone war if it is a real neccessity.
lizzy
11-08-2009, 08:50 PM
At least 3rd world have a land to mouth food supply
hi rodin ( and all the great posters here today , esp hawk ;))...
The 3rd world have already lost it's control of production ....the Rothchildes' personally own nearly half of India,.....
the usa has all the land it needs of course to feed itself and not so long ago Russia as well......... the uk can supply 70% of its needs......but the land is being taken out of food production to create scarcity...
Aug 10th ( last audio) is really worth hearing....and the articles linked , reading.
http://www.cuttingthroughthematrix.us/CTTM2009/Alan_Watt_CTTM_LIVEonRBN_382_On_Our_Way_to_Serfdom _Day_Aug102009.mp3
http://www.cuttingthroughthematrix.us/CTTM2009/Alan_Watt_CTTM_LIVEonRBN_382_On_Our_Way_to_Serfdom _Day_Aug102009.mp3
http://www.cuttingthroughthematrix.com/
lizzy
11-08-2009, 08:55 PM
That's what I'm trying to figure out at the moment.
How to make this work so that people will wake up really fast. Unfortunately, I am somewhat busy at the moment with a baby. I'll be back on later this evening around after 6pm. I'll take a look and see what response there are from others and how they feel about this entire economy/healthcare mess.
You just cannot say I will not cooperate because that is what they are counting on. A quiet peaceful demonstration sometimes doesn't work.
Sometimes I think even God does condone war if it is a real neccessity.
Not war hawk...insurrection...but they are already ready and waiting for that too.
The point is with all this monopoly money floating around, nothing we buy is really ours. They can come at any time and declare immnent domain and take everything you and your family have worked for. That's the sad truth about alot of this,too.:(
lizzy
11-08-2009, 08:59 PM
The point is with all this monopoly money floating around, nothing we buy is really ours. They can come at any time and declare immnent domain and take everything you and your family have worked for. That's the sad truth about alot of this,too.:(
yes......the agenda is that never again will 'common folk' own anything......this is the century of change...we are going back to serfdom, soviet style.
rodin
11-08-2009, 09:09 PM
Radford, this is just part of what people are screaming about.
http://www.nypost.com/seven/07242009/postopinion/opedcolumnists/deadly_doctors_180941.htm
Largejack sent it to another thread. But can you understand why there is need for something to be done?
To tptb it's all about every dme they can squeeze out of us. Even if it means that elderly person has to die for it.
Emanuel, however, believes that "communitarianism" should guide decisions on who gets care.
Communitarianism = Common Purpose = Communism = Jewish fascistic system wrapped in egalite liberte fraternite - French and Russian revolutions were its manifestation red in tooth and claw.
Re Medical Cartel
You have to wonder if old plans still apply
In 1492, Chemor, chief Rabbi of Spain, wrote to the Grand Sanhedrin, which had its seat in Constantinople, for advice, when a Spanish law threatened expulsion.2 This was the reply:
" Beloved brethren in Moses, we have received your letter in which you tell us of the anxieties and misfortunes which you are enduring. We are pierced by as great pain to hear it as yourselves. The advice of the Grand Satraps and Rabbis is the following:
As for what you say that the King of Spain 3 obliges you to become Christians: do it, since you cannot do otherwise.
As for what you say about the command to despoil you of your property: make your sons merchants that they may despoil, little by little, the Christians of theirs.
As for what you say about making attempts on your lives: make your sons doctors and apothecaries, that they may take away Christians' lives.
As for what you say of their destroying your syna gogues: make your sons canons and clerics in order that they may destroy their churches.
As for the many other vexations you complain of: arrange that your sons become advocates and lawyers, and see that they always mix in affairs of State, that by putting Christians under your yoke you may dominate the world and be avenged on them.
Do not swerve from this order that we give you, because you will find by experience that, humiliated as you are, you will reach the actuality of power.
(Signed)
PRINCE OF THE JEWS OF CONSTANTINOPLE."
http://iamthewitness.com/books/Denis.Fahey/Waters.Flowing.Eastward/2.1.How.The.Protocols.Came.To.Russia.htm
rodin
11-08-2009, 09:12 PM
hi rodin ( and all the great posters here today , esp hawk ;))...
The 3rd world have already lost it's control of production ....the Rothchildes' personally own nearly half of India,.....
the usa has all the land it needs of course to feed itself and not so long ago Russia as well......... the uk can supply 70% of its needs......but the land is being taken out of food production to create scarcity...
Aug 10th ( last audio) is really worth hearing....and the articles linked , reading.
http://www.cuttingthroughthematrix.us/CTTM2009/Alan_Watt_CTTM_LIVEonRBN_382_On_Our_Way_to_Serfdom _Day_Aug102009.mp3
http://www.cuttingthroughthematrix.us/CTTM2009/Alan_Watt_CTTM_LIVEonRBN_382_On_Our_Way_to_Serfdom _Day_Aug102009.mp3
http://www.cuttingthroughthematrix.com/
To a large extent you are right - interesting that India has been targeted especially by Monsanto, Bill Gates etc - because they are intelligent and Aryan.
peasant farmers will survive for a while, until they get the 'Ukraine' treatment
This attack really does come from the East - I think some of the featherbedded Sephardic swindlers might be waking up to how far up the queue in the firing line they might be because this Eastern horde are much worse than any in the West imagine.
Read 'Under The Sign of the Scorpion' by Estonian Juri Lina to get an idea of what they can do. He was a witness.
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There is an important thread today about a Chinese plan to divide up India - we see the Octopus in active preparation
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Financial Gurus exposing US economic frailty and leaders of the financial truth movement are Peter Schiff and James Sinclair (real name Seligman). Saying power is shifting to the East. It astonishes me that financial truthers do not make the connection with what these families were doing financing the Bolshevicki.
devanshoom
11-08-2009, 09:14 PM
i recently listened to an excellent coast to coast interview with 2 guys who are heavily into the webbot thing....what they were saying was quite promising....sort of.
I totally recommend that interview and am now going to get the link to paste here...even if you dont take the webbot thing seriously this is worth a listen due to some of the bizarre shit these dudes go into.
voila...
http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=2F10FC1DEDD48A86
angelx666
11-08-2009, 09:14 PM
so whats going on? markets collapsing ? i spoke to a friend of mine, trader, he said markets more than booming, i think its a bubble and might burst ???
leeme know if i need to get cash out of the banks in UK, OK, cheers...
rodin
11-08-2009, 09:22 PM
i recently listened to an excellent coast to coast interview with 2 guys who are heavily into the webbot thing....what they were saying was quite promising....sort of.
I totally recommend that interview and am now going to get the link to paste here...even if you dont take the webbot thing seriously this is worth a listen due to some of the bizarre shit these dudes go into.
voila...
http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=2F10FC1DEDD48A86
web bots are in the crop circle camp my antennae say
rodin
11-08-2009, 09:23 PM
so whats going on? markets collapsing ? i spoke to a friend of mine, trader, he said markets more than booming, i think its a bubble and might burst ???
leeme know if i need to get cash out of the banks in UK, OK, cheers...
I will try to warn of the next crash. Remember the markets are manipulated, but the manipulation has characteristics not seen by the average investor
freedom1st
11-08-2009, 10:23 PM
lol
, tnx
actually it fits in many posts here, hehe
but i would actually worry becasue of this WARNING on HAWKS website
http://www.stevequayle.com/News.alert/08_Hawk/090810.threat.alert.html
Hawk Threat Alert:
Air Assets Will be Used Against Populace and Police in CONUS
SHOULDN'T PEOPLE BE PRINTING THIS OFF AND SENDING IT TO LOTS OF POLICE STATIONS/DEPTS??
freedom1st
11-08-2009, 11:04 PM
You say your own Army is being mobilised ( USA ? ) there is no evidence of anything like this going on in the UK where most of our army is abroad - which is where I thought the USA army was as well ?
I cant see one bit of hard evidence to suggest a martial law takeover of the USA anywhere in a single article anywhere on the internet. Anyone care to point me to an actual plan - or a single build up of these foreign troops outside of normal troop movements.
This all is fear motivated stuff. Yes the economy could crash - but then if the USA people are decent they wont riot - what do they gain through that ? you cant impose martial law unless there is a need to do so. In anycase the public must outnumber the remaining soldiers in the USA by 1000 to 1 or more. It is just not possible.
David Icke said earlier this year : Dont Riot - that is what THEY want.
I agree - we need to stay calm and protect our own resources and live our lives with no fear and normally. By doing this they have NO control over us.
At the moment those who get so excited by all of this rumourmongering play right into the hands of the NWO. They paralyse people through fear. That is not a positive message. It is not going to help anyone get through any crisis of any sort. It is almost setting some people up as "Rabbits in the headlights" - so either provide hard evidence for these things or please stop spreading fear.
Great posts.
People you have no need to fear - there are too many of you. Apparantly it only takes 3% of the population to potentially win a revolution, not that I'm endorsing that sort of action. But just so you know how strong you are I'll lay out some information for you:-
Fidel Castro took a whole country by starting his revolution with 82 men…which grew as he gathered the support of the population…
How many would be required in the US today?
It was said that less than 5% of the population was active in the American Revolution.
China has the largest Army of 1.5 million, then India with 1.2 million and then you have America at least 85 million gun owners, if only 10 percent show up you are looking at an 8.5 million man militia. Where is the US govenment going to get enough troops to handle that.
Cliff High said in one of his interviews that mathematically it would take 65 million troops to garrison USA and that statistically they would hold it for a year or less.
Japanese leader Tojo once said that the reason Japan never invaded the mainland of the United States was because “there would be a rifle behind every blade of grass.”
Not bad eh?
clint_giles
12-08-2009, 12:03 AM
I don't have any. :D
Might suggest it to my parents... actually, can't risk being put on medication.
lol
boy i bet you cant wait till your 18 eh..
got anyplans on where you might be living?
dont worry friend,things will work out for the best,its just gonna take a little thing that we have been told about TIME.???
Great posts everyone! If we put our collective heads together we can come up with what I think can be a peaceful solution to this problem. But lying down and rolling over is not good for us.we need to make our voices heard by letting this get out into the mainstream media.But exactly how would word this so that it does not frighten or offend anyone but those we are trying to expose?
The time for action is now! If they pass this bill, America will be screwed, blued and tattooed!
illuminumnuts
12-08-2009, 12:46 AM
I don't have any. :D
Nor me... :)
Sorry but martial law wont occur because of Swine Flu in the USA this year.
Not so sure about that. We'll soon see.
lizzy
12-08-2009, 12:50 AM
Great posts everyone! If we put our collective heads together we can come up with what I think can be a peaceful solution to this problem. But lying down and rolling over is not good for us.we need to make our voices heard by letting this get out into the mainstream media.But exactly how would word this so that it does not frighten or offend anyone but those we are trying to expose?
The time for action is now! If they pass this bill, America will be screwed, blued and tattooed!
I know hawk but without a truth tv station , that could stay on air a month, most won't wake up......the peeps around me are totally brainwashed........they think nothing will happen to them!!!!
The agenda is in full swing....holds all the cards.....anyone organising gets infiltrated v quickly as the 911 truth movement did.......a general strike is required, could we ever get that? The closest thing I have ever seen was the batte in seattle in 1999....I was there.
Lizzy, maybe handing out flyers will help. I'm really thinking of going this route. The local papers are a good avenue but you need facts to back up what you're saying when it comes to this recession and the economy and this health care agenda.
Try to think of something to make people out there really stop and think.
Like make up some flyers and ask a serious question.
But think and then do it.
I have to find that link for this health care bill. I want to read it, and see for myself what it really says.
radford
12-08-2009, 02:14 AM
Thanks for starting this thread Hawk. It has been a good discussion.
I found the statistics about Castro etc interesting. The Russian Revolution was also carried out by very few people - but had the general public support in the main cities.
We should not fear. The constant message of the MSM is to try and brainwash us into being afraid. Whatever they have got in store for us all I am sure we will win - and probably without any need to recourse to violence of any sort. The truth wins because it is the truth. The deceivers in our World can only perpetuate the lie if we let them. We need to keep asking questions of our elected representative. Keep pushing gentle pressure on our local and national media to cover all sides of the stories AND to ask questions on our behalf.
The "elite" will then realise that we wont just roll over and curl up into a ball of fear. We are not afraid.
I hope you're right radford becuz it could get very ugly real quick if we don't make our point known.
According to the Web bot, the collapse of the Dollar will commence in november 2009.
yozhik
12-08-2009, 02:38 AM
September is the month ... apparently ...
The whole house of cards tumbles down.
The Bond market and the derivative bubble are exposed and then popped.
$1,500 TRILLION worth of derivatives ...
Time to get some popcorn and a comfy chair ...
radford
12-08-2009, 03:00 AM
Just to mention that I have brought The Shape of Things to Come report by the web bots people. It is only 10 dollars - about £6.30. and it is a good read.
I am hoping that their extreme events are wrong. But even if they are right and we do see a meltdown in the Autumn and big World events and disasters over the next 3 years there is no need to be afraid about this stuff.
Our ancestors lived through wars - famines - plagues - and far worse things. We at least have the advantage of education and technology to help us. We also will understand more about what is happening. Therefore fear should be low on our list.
I do tend to agree that there is a possibility of an economic crash again. Swine flu is a wild card. But like the webbots predictions most involve new events that create big problems which we cant particularly predict.
I have the document and I will be following the next 12 months events closely as they unfold. There is no need to panic. Just be prepared both with physical supplies and with belief in overcoming what will happen.
I am convinced we will all make it if we work and stick together. What good does fear or panic do for us ? nothing. This is a difficult turning point in history and has been so since 9.11 kicked off all sorts of things. We should keep asking questions and keep challenging the MSM version of events. By doing so intelligently and without resorting to sensationalism we can make many more aware of the issues facing us as a World.
Well my view is be prepared in the worst way. Have any of you noticed the yr? 2009? Isn't 9 the number of completion?
illuminumnuts
12-08-2009, 03:14 AM
September is the month ... apparently ...
The whole house of cards tumbles down.
The Bond market and the derivative bubble are exposed and then popped.
$1,500 TRILLION worth of derivatives ...
Time to get some popcorn and a comfy chair ...
You mean 1.5 trillion I hope? :eek:
All I can say is let's wait and see what they do next.:(
motleyhoo
12-08-2009, 05:28 AM
Emergency planning laws have been in place since legislation was a baby. Yes the WHO has grabbed potential extra powers. So what you are saying is that the WHO is going to initiate a war against the USA people ? with the collusion of the USA Government who have helpfully built facilities in order to help them with this aim ?
Sorry but I still see no evidence for this ? In the UK each council has indentified emergency plans since the 60s where schools or leisure centres can be used in case of large air disasters - crashes - floods etc. but this does not mean they want martial law.
You are making a step from a flu virus to an all out war on USA citizens. How can you make such a big step with no evidence.
If the WHO is so evil and so in control of the World - why is there no evidence about this. I might add that I live approx 1 mile from the WHO HQ in the UK ( One of 4 of their HQs in the World ) and have never seen anything to be suspicious of - and never heard of any local gossip about anything untoward going on there.
I dont doubt that emergency plans are in place for every eventuality ( especially after Katrina ) But show me how they link with the WHO and flu and so on.
I just think that fear is the weapon being used to stop people actually seeing the reality that they are being fleeced by the NWO daily at the moment. The banks have stolen ALL our money - and yet we are still totally in denial about this ! Sorry but martial law wont occur because of Swine Flu in the USA this year. If riots break out because of an economic collapse then sadly those people rioting only have themselves to blame.
I have read threads like this for years and years - and they never come to fruition because though it could come true - it is more a movie plot than a real situation. You are extrapolating information out of innocent things that does not exist - you are making jumps from a set of circumstances to the worst possible case scenario that you can imagine with no line of evidence. Just a starting position and an end position.
For it to be more than just fearmongering I would like to see someone actually set out the steps that would happen between A and Z. Not just say because A is happening then we will get to Z almost immediately.
How much evidence do you need? Have you been asleep the last 18 months? Yes of course, we have always had emergency procedures setup in case of certain disasters, but these newest acts and laws that have been passed are something completely different if you'd care to go and read them. They actually give up part of our sovereignty to global organizations under emergencies declared not by us by the the global institutions themselves. Have you not been paying attention to the massive fraud taking place in our financial systems? Where do you suppose all of that money is going, and why do you think they're dong it right in front of our faces? Do you not know anything about what Baxter has been caught doing, or the outlandish pandemic statements being made by the WHO? I don't have time to school anyone on these things. I'd suggest you hit the books and pronto. Maybe you should take a look at the lawsuits that have been issued by Jane Burgermeister, because I can assure you that her cases are quite valid and backed up by a preponderance of evidence. It's not fearmongering, it's reality, at least to anyone that isn't a sheeple in the herd.
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hadabusa
12-08-2009, 05:44 AM
stock up on spaghetti and mayonnaise .
maybe ketchup to get some variation once ina bluemoon.
:)
the usd can be used in usa after crash, but ppl will have2figure whats it worth.
based on economy , its a good ,uh, lets not say toiletpaper, lets say,usefull to put in a book, to remember where to read away.
we wont insult toiletpaper here:D
Where will you be if this thing goes down? Ah I see you now running up and down the streets screaming your fool head off then somebody shoots you to shut you up.
www.crazycrow .com. They sell camping equipment and tools such as knives and axes. and other stuff as well. Stuff to make clothes and outdoor gear. You have to buy your own guns though I'm afraid.
It's a Native American site and their catalog sells for $5.00. I'll be ordering one this afternoon.
Better safe than sorry.
As for me, I'm thinking of going to the Canadian wild lands.
rodin
12-08-2009, 02:47 PM
Hawk Threat Alert:
Air Assets Will be Used Against Populace and Police in CONUS
SHOULDN'T PEOPLE BE PRINTING THIS OFF AND SENDING IT TO LOTS OF POLICE STATIONS/DEPTS??
Yes
http://www.stevequayle.com/News.alert/08_Hawk/090810.threat.alert.html
They may take it with pinch of salt, then again it might resonate with what they feel and see
rodin
12-08-2009, 02:49 PM
You mean 1.5 trillion I hope? :eek:
I hear more like 150 trillion
Derivatives are leverage
Without leverage Illuminati Jews would be nothing
With it they can get their way
Leverage must be understood for the dark force it is
I have no idea how much they have stolen and hidden from us. That money has to be somewhere, hell they can't spend that much over.night even if they wanted to Alot of it is being laundered through Wall Street and they know it, but yet everybody ignores what's happening.
radford
12-08-2009, 02:53 PM
OK - you have made some points.
Because I have asked for evidence I am a "sheeple" : Not true - have been awake for longer than many of you have been alive. I have not only prepared my own survival plans and brought all the stuff necessary but have actually done trial runs as well. In addition I have read the Jane Burgermeister writ and listened to her on Project Camelot : plus I read the Half Past Human site and follow the MSM for clues about what is happening.
However, the evidence I see is saying that we are in an economic bubble which will lead to a crash. The Webbots also seem to be saying that as well.
Swine Flu seems to be a diversion tactic in many ways and the whole WHO thing is not important. How would the WHO take sovereignty away from the people of a country ? This small organisation has no army - has no command structure and is based out of 4 relatively small HQs around the World ( one of which is less than a mile from where I live )
Throwing around "Fear" is not the answer. Being awake means being prepared. There is nothing to worry about at all because if we are awake and aware and prepared then we can deal with any issues that arise out of these situations. The Fear and Panic approach will lead to riots and people attaching blame and attacking others. A measured approach will mean we work together to overcome whatever obstacles stand in the way of freedom and survival.
This is not a Hollywood Movie - being awake does not mean being detached and losing all sense of reality. I watched the Cartoon Movie BOLT last night and this showed the difference between the REAL world and the managed world. In the REAL world we can achieve great things if we show love and can work together. There is no magic bullet for any situation.
Therefore by whipping up fear about "what if" " what might" we create a smokescreen which becomes hard for anyone to see through. Full of fear - just what the NWO wants I might add.
A better approach is to be practical about planning our own personal response. Getting in food and water and power to survive any outages or supply problems. Grouping together with friends for escape strategies. Buying tents which you can use for family holidays in the meantime and equipment which can be turned over to survival strategies.
This is the awakened response to the coming "problems". It is better to be prepared than not.
At this precise moment in time Swine Flu is not a severe illness. There are no mandatory vaccinations anywhere. There are no quarantines anywhere. There is not a single example of the WHO taking sovereignty away from a country nor an explanation by anyone about what that means in practice and in principle.
Bad people dont make laws generally to take power. They just take power. Therefore an obsession with legality is sort of missing the point. The ELITE dont follow any laws. They believe themselves to be outside the law.
You claim to be awake but you are seeing things from inside the prison. Seeing laws as the way in which things will take place. This is not how it will happen. Hitler did not pass laws - he took action. Yes we have a Police State in the UK and USA and Australia - and a very corrupt one. But so far the Police have not yet turned themselves totally against us. Likewise the military dont seem to have been signed up yet to kill us all.
I still have not seen any evidence that the Swine Flu or Health Laws will lead to Martial Law and meltdown. Once again it looks to me as if the Pharm companies want to screw money out of us - hence the WHO actions which Jane Burgermeister quite rightly is challenging. To say that they want to depopulate the planet with such a weedy disease has no proof so far.
We need to prepare and smile more. Why be unhappy if you are awake ? Every day has such beauty and possiblities. Why waste that building up scenarios in your head which are unlikely to happen. If being awake means jumping around like a rabbit in the headlights or being afraid of the bogeyman then I would say most people would prefer to stay asleep.
Properly awakened people will be happy in the knowledge that they are intuitively able to deal with any crisis which may occur - and they will be ready.
Remember the future is ours - not the elites. They are in panic themselves at the moment and they are clutching at straws. We must give them no excuses to introduce any sort of Martial Law. Peaceful non co-operation is the way forward.
bemore
12-08-2009, 03:35 PM
It say on english money at the top
"I promise to pay the bearer on demand the sum of Ten/Twenty/Fifty pounds"
They are just IOU's and credit notes.
The collapse of the economy is basicly people lending money that does not exist, then when they try to cash it in then nobody can afford to pay it.
You use these "Credit notes" to buy items for youself, your home and your business. So if you have to sell all these items/your worldy possesions for money and you still cant afford to pay your debts then we are in big trouble.
So the goverments invent more money to try and buy out the debt that cant be paid off. The whole monetary system is completly and utterly in ruin and there is actually no correcting it that I can see of.
When you inject forged money into an economy you are actually weakening that economy and the real money that exists. So at the moment you cant afford to pay off your debts, so you inject MORE money which in turn WEAKENS the money that is still in existence. That just dont make any sense whatsoever.
Large major companies and banks flounder and ask for bailouts by the goverment, the goverment then make money and Bailout the companies. I dont know exactly how they do it, wether they give money or they buy stocks and shares. Ultimatly though the companies are then debted to the goverment which basicly means they owe the goverment. They owe the goverment for nothing.
You can inject more money into a failing economy and for a short time there will be a boost, but people in the long run still wont be able to pay off there debts.
If everybody panicked and decided to remove there money from all of there accounts then there would NOT be enough money or "Credit Notes" to actually physically give out.
So where would we stand then?????
In deep shit.
That's why the banks over here in America only have about $100,000 at a time in their vaults.
So if and when they close the banks supposedly on this Sept 7th,which is Labor Day, if people make a run on the banks they cannot get their money out. It will be too late!
That's alot of the worry.
radford
12-08-2009, 04:19 PM
I Urge you to go to www.urbansurvival.com and read their view of how to deal with all this information.
This is just a snippet from the piece DISCUSSING EXACTLY WHAT WE ARE DISCUSSING on here
"What I'm trying to do is maintain an open-mindedness to the observable (preferably by me ) facts, so that I can remain focused on the data and thus to be open to what the data implies. That's why I find the predictive linguistics work so valuable: It helps me keep my antennae aimed in the right direction and may help prevent a person from getting 'sucked in' to the 'shock and awe' factor which can paralyze at precisely the moment when quick independent action is called for. Or, on another level, being caught up in any number of memes/though viruses that are just as real in terms of control mechanism as an armed force." from URBANSURVIVAL.COM Daily Report 12 AUGUST 2009
The RABBIT IN THE HEADLIGHTS syndrome needs to be avoided by all of us if we are to be prepared. We need to keep an open mind and check out the evidence - when we can see REAL EVENTS happening that is the time to act but we can see in advance preparations but lets not misinterpret innocent actions as something dark.
Read the site - it gave me great re-assurance that what I am writing in this thread is correct.
I do recommend getting the HALF PAST HUMAN WEB BOTS "SHAPE OF THINGS TO COME " Report so you can read the worse case scenarios and prepare yourself mentally not to be shocked into paralysis if any of them come true. A sharp intuitive mind is needed for all of us to come through the next few years. We ARE the future. We ARE important for the whole human race and we need to be prepared and not afraid of anything.
I saw this and thought to post it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e198PQfBPo8&feature=player_embedded
have a look.
cleopatraxxx
13-08-2009, 01:28 PM
Emergency planning laws have been in place since legislation was a baby. Yes the WHO has grabbed potential extra powers. So what you are saying is that the WHO is going to initiate a war against the USA people ? with the collusion of the USA Government who have helpfully built facilities in order to help them with this aim ?
Sorry but I still see no evidence for this ? In the UK each council has indentified emergency plans since the 60s where schools or leisure centres can be used in case of large air disasters - crashes - floods etc. but this does not mean they want martial law.
You are making a step from a flu virus to an all out war on USA citizens. How can you make such a big step with no evidence.
If the WHO is so evil and so in control of the World - why is there no evidence about this. I might add that I live approx 1 mile from the WHO HQ in the UK ( One of 4 of their HQs in the World ) and have never seen anything to be suspicious of - and never heard of any local gossip about anything untoward going on there.
I dont doubt that emergency plans are in place for every eventuality ( especially after Katrina ) But show me how they link with the WHO and flu and so on.
I just think that fear is the weapon being used to stop people actually seeing the reality that they are being fleeced by the NWO daily at the moment. The banks have stolen ALL our money - and yet we are still totally in denial about this ! Sorry but martial law wont occur because of Swine Flu in the USA this year. If riots break out because of an economic collapse then sadly those people rioting only have themselves to blame.
I have read threads like this for years and years - and they never come to fruition because though it could come true - it is more a movie plot than a real situation. You are extrapolating information out of innocent things that does not exist - you are making jumps from a set of circumstances to the worst possible case scenario that you can imagine with no line of evidence. Just a starting position and an end position.
For it to be more than just fearmongering I would like to see someone actually set out the steps that would happen between A and Z. Not just say because A is happening then we will get to Z almost immediately.
i personally wish none of this will happen, but unfortunately, the WHO by FORCING vaccines onto shows their fascist approach towards the matter. WHY FORCE THEM?????? One should not be forced to nothing, specially vaccines that have no evidence to be effective. The WHO has even protected themselves from any responsibility of the ineffetiveness of the vacccines, by stating that the flu is in constant mutation and that because of this there is no proof that the vaccines will be effective as such. SO WHY FORCE THEM UPON US IF THEY DO NOT WORK?, PHARMACEUTICAL PROFIT intimes of recession??? sounds like loads of bullshit! unfortunately, it is very sad to imagine that few people on the top have elaborately prepared this plan since 1960's and it has been tried once to fail only and is now unfolding perfectly for them! but only for them. the agenda is to get rid of the OVERPOPULATION! then control the remainder... by microchipping us and forcing a ONE WORLD ORDER with a ONE world Curency that only ONE GROUP will MONITOR and OWN! not you and me, THEM!
when this happens...you will remember your own words. I cannot blame you for not believeing in such a malicious plan. we normally think about others what based on our own actions, so to accpet that these people are preparing a genocide instead of protecting us.... is not easy.
Peace
Cleo
I just found this.
watch for more to come.
have no idea about the validity of this, but it's posted on fourwinds:
[link to fourwinds10.com]
"Confirmation of Bank collapse from CIA and international banker"
August 11, 2009
FYI, I had a conversation with my friend in international banking yesterday and tried to warn him about the impending bank holiday and currency exchange. He said that because he works with people at the top (Rothschilds and Rockefellers, etc) he would know if this were true. He did however confirm again that all central banks have been stocking up on the new Amero currency. I encouraged him to check out my info.
Well, I received this in an e-mail from him just a few hours after our phone conversation:
"As to your Bank Holiday information of this morning, the following is from a close CIA connection, the way it will come down is that starting 8/24, groups of banks will be closed in certain regions of the country for a week or so. They will open again, and then other groups of banks in different regions will be closed; and on and on it will go, until all the banks in the country have gone through that process.
The banks will be opened with a new global currency. Indeed the ratio will be 1 to 6, or 1 to 12. Thus, if you had formerly $6M in the Bank, after a ratio of 1 to 6 with the new currency, you will get 1M value in the supposed new legal tender."
Time will tell, but this guy would not lightly say this, and he does have the CIA connections for the info.
My suggestion is that any of you who have much money in the bank might want to consider changing some of it to gold coins, Swiss francs or some other safer currency before the end of August.
yozhik
13-08-2009, 05:12 PM
You mean 1.5 trillion I hope? :eek:
I hear more like 150 trillion
Derivatives are leverage
Without leverage Illuminati Jews would be nothing
With it they can get their way
Leverage must be understood for the dark force it is
No.
$1.5 Quadrillion. (estimated ... from figure of $1.144 Quadrillion in 2008)
Source Article (http://www.marcomprofessional.com/posts/charlie.hoult/credit-crunch-derivatives-market-explained-in-simpleish-terms)
yozhik
13-08-2009, 05:17 PM
I just found this.
watch for more to come.
have no idea about the validity of this, but it's posted on fourwinds:
[link to fourwinds10.com]
"Confirmation of Bank collapse from CIA and international banker"
August 11, 2009
FYI, I had a conversation with my friend in international banking yesterday and tried to warn him about the impending bank holiday and currency exchange. He said that because he works with people at the top (Rothschilds and Rockefellers, etc) he would know if this were true. He did however confirm again that all central banks have been stocking up on the new Amero currency. I encouraged him to check out my info.
Well, I received this in an e-mail from him just a few hours after our phone conversation:
"As to your Bank Holiday information of this morning, the following is from a close CIA connection, the way it will come down is that starting 8/24, groups of banks will be closed in certain regions of the country for a week or so. They will open again, and then other groups of banks in different regions will be closed; and on and on it will go, until all the banks in the country have gone through that process.
The banks will be opened with a new global currency. Indeed the ratio will be 1 to 6, or 1 to 12. Thus, if you had formerly $6M in the Bank, after a ratio of 1 to 6 with the new currency, you will get 1M value in the supposed new legal tender."
Time will tell, but this guy would not lightly say this, and he does have the CIA connections for the info.
My suggestion is that any of you who have much money in the bank might want to consider changing some of it to gold coins, Swiss francs or some other safer currency before the end of August.
Hmmmm ... it makes sense, but there is a part of my head that still wants to suck its thumb and hold its blankey in Denial World.
lizzy
13-08-2009, 05:39 PM
Hard to know about bank closure / amero........not exactly their Fabian style incrimental approach.........nothing has been said to americans about possible currency change......BUT they do want create choas......and THAT would deffo do it. Thie already on overload with Health care and some about the vaccinations......and just feeding themsleves......
yozhik
13-08-2009, 09:41 PM
Hard to know about bank closure / amero........not exactly their Fabian style incrimental approach.........nothing has been said to americans about possible currency change......BUT they do want create choas......and THAT would deffo do it. Thie already on overload with Health care and some about the vaccinations......and just feeding themsleves......
1. I'm not convinced the US Corporation is on the Fabian assembly line.
2. A possible currency change has been hinted, whispered and covertly injected into mainstream for years.
Well, all we can do is just wait and see. I'll bet propel will wonder, what the hell is this? lol! I don't see it going over too well.
cleopatraxxx
14-08-2009, 05:00 AM
2. A possible currency change has been hinted, whispered and covertly injected into mainstream for years.
....which makes it less a surprise if it was brought into existance. very likely... :( due to the current economic downturn. They, the bankers have messed up and now have to find a way out, and as usual they never loose money, they have lost their souls, but that is a different matter.
i have never trusted banks.
they are the most corrupt of all businesses.
ozpixie
14-08-2009, 07:00 AM
I can't comment on the introduction of the Amero but a parcel I got from the US recently clearly shows Special Drawing Rights instead of the $US that used to be on the Invoice.
yozhik
14-08-2009, 10:32 AM
I can't comment on the introduction of the Amero but a parcel I got from the US recently clearly shows Special Drawing Rights instead of the $US that used to be on the Invoice.
Seriously???
This is a huge development.
Was it an international delivery?
Do you still have the invoice?
Is it possible to scan it and post it? (remove all personal info, of course)
Did you contract/pay in USD or XDR? i.e. did you know, or have prior indication that the invoice would come in XDR? Or did you complete the deal in USD, then receive the invoice in XDR?
Special Drawing Rights (XDR) is the currency of the IMF.
It has been strongly suggested that the IMF is the US Treasury; they are one and the same.
For items from the US to now be invoiced in XDR is a very telling development ... and under commonly comprehended US laws; illegal.
"Citizens" have been arrested and charged for not using Federal Reserve Notes for US based commerce ...
Surely, if the conspiracy had no basis, conducting commerce in non-US tender would also be illegal?
:rolleyes:
I don't want to sensationalise this or come across as a raving loon, but this is hugely significant.
If this was an intra-treasury transaction or a trade agreement, then ok - no big deal; that's exactly the scenario the XDR was created for.
A "behind the scenes" international exchange currency for intra-treasury dealings.
But for an individual to receive an invoice in XDR, from a US based company, for a single parcel???????
That is a massive leap forward in the externalisation of the agenda.
Let's wait and see if it happens. It's supposed to start 08/24/09. I do not think this will go over too well.
ozpixie
14-08-2009, 02:21 PM
Seriously???
This is a huge development.
Was it an international delivery?
Do you still have the invoice?
Is it possible to scan it and post it? (remove all personal info, of course)
Did you contract/pay in USD or XDR? i.e. did you know, or have prior indication that the invoice would come in XDR? Or did you complete the deal in USD, then receive the invoice in XDR?
Special Drawing Rights (XDR) is the currency of the IMF.
It has been strongly suggested that the IMF is the US Treasury; they are one and the same.
For items from the US to now be invoiced in XDR is a very telling development ... and under commonly comprehended US laws; illegal.
"Citizens" have been arrested and charged for not using Federal Reserve Notes for US based commerce ...
Surely, if the conspiracy had no basis, conducting commerce in non-US tender would also be illegal?
:rolleyes:
I don't want to sensationalise this or come across as a raving loon, but this is hugely significant.
If this was an intra-treasury transaction or a trade agreement, then ok - no big deal; that's exactly the scenario the XDR was created for.
A "behind the scenes" international exchange currency for intra-treasury dealings.
But for an individual to receive an invoice in XDR, from a US based company, for a single parcel???????
That is a massive leap forward in the externalisation of the agenda.
Hi there
I will try to scan and put up on here. It was a parcel of baby clothes for my grandchildren from a business I have been using for some years now. I kept a look out because just a couple of weeks earlier Alex Jones had a caller who said the SDR's were being used.
cleopatraxxx
14-08-2009, 02:51 PM
Hi there
I will try to scan and put up on here. It was a parcel of baby clothes for my grandchildren from a business I have been using for some years now. I kept a look out because just a couple of weeks earlier Alex Jones had a caller who said the SDR's were being used.
that is indeed very interesting development of the facts.
thanks for beeing attentive to detail :-) and sharing it with us too.
Yozhik is absolutely right too.
awaiting the images
Cleo
Regards
yozhik
14-08-2009, 06:25 PM
Hi there
I will try to scan and put up on here. It was a parcel of baby clothes for my grandchildren from a business I have been using for some years now. I kept a look out because just a couple of weeks earlier Alex Jones had a caller who said the SDR's were being used.
Sorry - hate to be a pain ... but this has REALLY got my interest!
That question again; did you contract in USD or in XDR?
Did they notify you prior to invoicing that it would be sent in XDR?
Can I assume you paid in USD but the invoice was delivered in XDR?
Did they document an exchange rate between USD and XDR on the invoice?
How did they document your payment? In AUD, USD or XDR?
I find this absolutely incredible :eek:
How the hell can an invoice be issued in XDR when it isn't a sovereign "currency"?
It is an international trading currency.
But if you're invoiced in XDR (as you were), how the hell can you pay it??? :confused:
It isn't a sovereign currency you can pop down to your local bank and purchase.
Noone is walking around with XDR's in their wallets and purses.
It is the "currency" of the IMF ... so what the fuck is a US company doing, issuing invoices in a non-US currency???
:confused:
Smoking gun anyone?
decim
14-08-2009, 08:22 PM
If the USPS/IMF is using SDR XDR, they would need also to accept other currencies to repay, and consequently have an exchange rate for the value of SDR XDR debts.
If the USPS is broke, the IMF maybe frankign their mail costs, atrributing them to SDR XDR.
Big changes are not far off.
Sorry - hate to be a pain ... but this has REALLY got my interest!
That question again; did you contract in USD or in XDR?
Did they notify you prior to invoicing that it would be sent in XDR?
Can I assume you paid in USD but the invoice was delivered in XDR?
Did they document an exchange rate between USD and XDR on the invoice?
How did they document your payment? In AUD, USD or XDR?
I find this absolutely incredible :eek:
How the hell can an invoice be issued in XDR when it isn't a sovereign "currency"?
It is an international trading currency.
But if you're invoiced in XDR (as you were), how the hell can you pay it??? :confused:
It isn't a sovereign currency you can pop down to your local bank and purchase.
Noone is walking around with XDR's in their wallets and purses.
It is the "currency" of the IMF ... so what the fuck is a US company doing, issuing invoices in a non-US currency???
:confused:
Smoking gun anyone?
lizzy
14-08-2009, 10:52 PM
Whilst on the phone with Chase bank today , I was told it would be closed "for auditing and re-organization" from Tuesday Sept 1- Friday 4,
.....Sat ,Sun , Mon ,7th Labour Day (bank holiday).....so a full 7 days .
lizzy
14-08-2009, 11:03 PM
1. I'm not convinced the US Corporation is on the Fabian assembly line.
2. A possible currency change has been hinted, whispered and covertly injected into mainstream for years.
1. LOL , yup, not any more , indeed, Fabian is the cultural tip toe.
2. yup again but very low key , not even mentioned on CNBC.
el jefe
14-08-2009, 11:50 PM
Whilst on the phone with Chase bank today , I was told it would be closed "for auditing and re-organization" from Tuesday Sept 1- Friday 4,
.....Sat ,Sun , Mon ,7th Labour Day (bank holiday).....so a full 7 days .
Where?
Get ready Lizzy, here it comes....lol! I wonder if they are going to get all the old currency that is out there now slowly phased out? :D
lizzy
15-08-2009, 01:45 AM
Where?
the States el jefe.
hi hawk....geez , that would blow my mind, even tho we've been expecting it.;)
I can't believe they will have 2 types of currency in the US. They have to phase out the US dollar somehow,don't they?
It would only make sense.
One girl I told this to said if her grandfather found this out,and how the value would go down,he would take all his money out of the bank and give them their inheritances now. Becuz the value would not be worth as much, would it?
Oh, I wanna see Obama explain this one, the bastard! I don't think they will buy as much as the current dollar. That's how they will be able to explain the inflation going up,I'll bet.
altruist551
15-08-2009, 03:10 AM
I received the following information in an email today. Posting this does not mean that I agree with every word. I think it is good material to debate.
Comments summarizing Obama's presidency:
Regardless of your political affiliation, I believe this man, Dr. Krauthammer On Fox News,
is the most brilliant mind in all of Washington, bar none.
This is a quick read and well worth your time.
Dr. Krauthammer is on Fox News. He is a M.D. and he is paralyzed from the neck down.
Be forewarned on what is happening.
A friend went to hear Charles Krauthammer. He listened with 25 others in a closed room.
What he says here, is NOT 2nd-hand but 1st. You would do well to read and pass this along to EVERYBODY that loves this country. This is VERY serious for the direction of our country.
The ramifications are staggering for us and our children.
Last Monday was a profound evening, hearing Dr. Charles Krauthammer speak to the Center for the American Experiment. He is brilliant intellectual, seasoned and articulate. He is forthright and careful in his analysis, and never resorts to emotions or personal insults. He is NOT a fear monger nor an extremist in his comments and views. He is a fiscal conservative, and has a Pulitzer Prize for writing. He is a frequent contributor to Fox News and writes weekly for the Washington Post.
The entire room was held spellbound during his talk. I have shared this with many of you and several have asked me to summarize his comments, as we are living in uncharted waters economically and internationally.
Even two Dems. at my table agreed with everything he said! I hope you feel free to forward this to those who are open minded and have not drunk the Kool-Aid.
Summary of his comments:
1. Mr. Obama is a very intellectual, charming individual. He is not to be underestimated. He is a cool customer who doesn't show his emotions. It's very hard to know what's behind the mask. Taking down the Clinton dynasty from a political neophyte was an amazing accomplishment. The Clintons still do not understand what hit them.
Obama was in the perfect place at the perfect time.
2. Obama has political skills comparable to Reagan and Clinton. He has a way of making you think he's on your side, agreeing with your position, while doing the opposite. Pay no attention to what he SAYS; rather, watch what he DOES!
3. Obama has a ruthless quest for power. He did not come to Washington to make something out of himself, but rather to change everything, including dismantling capitalism. He can’t be straightforward on his ambitions, as the public would not go along. He has a heavy hand, and wants to level the playing field with income redistribution and punishment to the achievers of society. He would like to model the USA to Great Britain or Canada.
4. His three main goals are to control ENERGY, PUBLIC EDUCATION, &NATIONAL HEALTH CARE by the Federal government. He doesn't care about the auto or financial services industries, but got them as an early bonus. The cap and trade will add costs to everything and stifle growth. Paying for FREE college education is his goal. Most scary is his health care program, because if you make it FREE and add 46,000,000 people to a Medicare-type single-payer system, the costs will go through the roof. The only way to control costs is with massive RATIONING of services, like in Canada, God forbid.
5. He has surrounded himself with mostly far-left academic types. No one around him has ever even run a candy store. But they are going to try and run the auto, financial, banking and other industries. This obviously can’t work in the long run. Obama is not a socialist; rather he's a far-left secular progressive bent on nothing short of revolution. He ran as a moderate, but will govern from the hard left. Again, watch what he does, not what he says.
6. Obama doesn’t really see himself as President of the United States , but more as a ruler over the world. He sees himself above it all, trying to orchestrate and coordinate various countries and their agendas. He sees moral equivalency in all cultures. His apology tour in Germany and England was a prime example of how he sees America, as an imperialist nation that has been arrogant, rather than a great noble nation that has at times made errors. This is the first President ever who has chastised our allies and appeased our enemies!
7. He is now handing out goodies. He hopes that the bill (and pain) will not come due until after he is reelected in 2012. He would like to blame all problems on Bush from the past, and hopefully his successor in the future. He has a huge ego, and Mr. Krauthammer believes he is a narcissist.
8. Republicans are in the wilderness for a while, but will emerge strong. Were pining for another Reagan, but there will never be another like him. Krauthammer believes Mitt Romney, Tim Pawlenty and Bobby Jindahl (except for his terrible speech in February) are the future of the party. Newt Gingrich is brilliant, but has baggage. Sarah Palin is sincere and intelligent, but needs to be seriously boning up on facts and info if she is to be a serious candidate in the future. We need to return to the party of lower taxes, and
smaller government, personal responsibility, strong national defense, and state's rights.
9. The current level of spending is irresponsible and outrageous. We are spending trillions that we don’t have. This could lead to hyperinflation, depression or worse. No country has ever spent themselves into prosperity. The media is giving Obama, Reid and Pelosi a pass because they love their agenda. But eventually the bill will come due and people will realize the huge bailouts didn’t work, nor will the stimulus package.These were trillion-dollar payoffs to Obama’s allies, unions and the Congress to placate the left, so he can get support for #4 above.
10. The election was over in mid-September when Lehman brothers failed, fear and panic swept in, we had an unpopular President, and the war was grinding on indefinitely without a clear outcome. The people are in pain, and the mantra of change caused people to act emotionally. Any Dem. would have won this election; it was surprising it was as close as it was.
11. In 2012, if the unemployment rate is over 10%, Republicans will be swept back into power. If it's under 8%, the Dems. continue to roll. If it's between 8-10%, it will be a dogfight. It will all be about the economy.
I hope this gets you really thinking about what's happening in Washington and Congress. There is a left-wing revolution going on, according to Krauthammer, and he encourages us to keep the faith and join the loyal resistance. The work will be hard, but were right on most issues and can reclaim our country, before it's far too late.
Do yourself a long term favor, send this to all who will listen to an intelligent assessment of the big picture. All our futures and children's futures depend on our good understanding of what is really going on in DC!!!! And our action pursuant to that understanding!!! It really IS up to each of us to take individual action. Start with educating your friends and neighbors!!!
Rev. Daniel Thrower
In God We Trust
dude111
15-08-2009, 03:23 AM
10/4/2008 ??????????????????I noticed that also right away...Someone didnt check the date when they posted this article..
torus
15-08-2009, 04:05 AM
Hi hawk! the other "hawk"? he's a crock. I was banned from the Steve Quayle (concord bridge) forums after my FIRST POST for pointing out that the not so astute Hawk mentioned the date of April 31st in a recent article he had posted at stevequayle.com. I can't trust the veracity of someone spewing endless doom and gloom scenarios who can't even get the days of the month straight.
Quayle? he's a crock too. I've said it before and I'll say it again after hearing quayle on the alex jones SHOW the other night. In that contrived, concerned voice of his he spoke of his GRAVE concern for the forthcoming 2-3 weeks. the thing is, Quayle has been MILKING the next 2-3 weeks scenario in one capacity or another for the past 2-3 years!
Between quayle, john galt,jones, steve shanks,"hawk", and all the other opportunists MILKING it for all it's worth....christ, we should all be in internment camps by now being fed to the longwalkers or the nephilim as the rest of humanity has either been shot, decapitated, fallen victim to the ensuing chaos of the complete and utter destruction of the economy of the United States, or scooped up into the loving arms of the "living god".
quayle? move to Israel!
I noticed that also right away...Someone didnt check the date when they posted this article..
it relates to this:have no idea about the validity of this, but it's posted on fourwinds:
[link to fourwinds10.com]
"Confirmation of Bank collapse from CIA and international banker"
August 11, 2009
FYI, I had a conversation with my friend in international banking yesterday and tried to warn him about the impending bank holiday and currency exchange. He said that because he works with people at the top (Rothschilds and Rockefellers, etc) he would know if this were true. He did however confirm again that all central banks have been stocking up on the new Amero currency. I encouraged him to check out my info.
Well, I received this in an e-mail from him just a few hours after our phone conversation:
"As to your Bank Holiday information of this morning, the following is from a close CIA connection, the way it will come down is that starting 8/24, groups of banks will be closed in certain regions of the country for a week or so. They will open again, and then other groups of banks in different regions will be closed; and on and on it will go, until all the banks in the country have gone through that process.
The banks will be opened with a new global currency. Indeed the ratio will be 1 to 6, or 1 to 12. Thus, if you had formerly $6M in the Bank, after a ratio of 1 to 6 with the new currency, you will get 1M value in the supposed new legal tender."
Time will tell, but this guy would not lightly say this, and he does have the CIA connections for the info.
My suggestion is that any of you who have much money in the bank might want to consider changing some of it to gold coins, Swiss francs or some other safer currency before the end of August.
__________________
torus
15-08-2009, 04:31 AM
I'll meet you here in, oh, I don't know, let's say 2-3 weeks from 08/14/09. we'll notice the kids getting ready for school, I'll bet we can still watch Who Wants To Be a Millionaire? the leaves will be turning and "hawk" we'll be churning out yet another piece of slanted writing to instill fear based on some alleged "insider" he knows.
krawk!
ozpixie
15-08-2009, 09:09 AM
I now have a scanned copy of the document showing the SDR value but my HTML is set to off. Can anyone help?
rodin
15-08-2009, 01:20 PM
I received the following information in an email today. Posting this does not mean that I agree with every word. I think it is good material to debate.
Comments summarizing Obama's presidency:
Regardless of your political affiliation, I believe this man, Dr. Krauthammer On Fox News,
is the most brilliant mind in all of Washington, bar none.
This is a quick read and well worth your time.
Dr. Krauthammer is on Fox News. He is a M.D. and he is paralyzed from the neck down.
Be forewarned on what is happening.
A friend went to hear Charles Krauthammer. He listened with 25 others in a closed room.
What he says here, is NOT 2nd-hand but 1st. You would do well to read and pass this along to EVERYBODY that loves this country. This is VERY serious for the direction of our country.
The ramifications are staggering for us and our children.
Last Monday was a profound evening, hearing Dr. Charles Krauthammer speak to the Center for the American Experiment. He is brilliant intellectual, seasoned and articulate. He is forthright and careful in his analysis, and never resorts to emotions or personal insults. He is NOT a fear monger nor an extremist in his comments and views. He is a fiscal conservative, and has a Pulitzer Prize for writing. He is a frequent contributor to Fox News and writes weekly for the Washington Post.
The entire room was held spellbound during his talk. I have shared this with many of you and several have asked me to summarize his comments, as we are living in uncharted waters economically and internationally.
Even two Dems. at my table agreed with everything he said! I hope you feel free to forward this to those who are open minded and have not drunk the Kool-Aid.
Summary of his comments:
1. Mr. Obama is a very intellectual, charming individual. He is not to be underestimated. He is a cool customer who doesn't show his emotions. It's very hard to know what's behind the mask. Taking down the Clinton dynasty from a political neophyte was an amazing accomplishment. The Clintons still do not understand what hit them.
Obama was in the perfect place at the perfect time.
2. Obama has political skills comparable to Reagan and Clinton. He has a way of making you think he's on your side, agreeing with your position, while doing the opposite. Pay no attention to what he SAYS; rather, watch what he DOES!
3. Obama has a ruthless quest for power. He did not come to Washington to make something out of himself, but rather to change everything, including dismantling capitalism. He can’t be straightforward on his ambitions, as the public would not go along. He has a heavy hand, and wants to level the playing field with income redistribution and punishment to the achievers of society. He would like to model the USA to Great Britain or Canada.
4. His three main goals are to control ENERGY, PUBLIC EDUCATION, &NATIONAL HEALTH CARE by the Federal government. He doesn't care about the auto or financial services industries, but got them as an early bonus. The cap and trade will add costs to everything and stifle growth. Paying for FREE college education is his goal. Most scary is his health care program, because if you make it FREE and add 46,000,000 people to a Medicare-type single-payer system, the costs will go through the roof. The only way to control costs is with massive RATIONING of services, like in Canada, God forbid.
5. He has surrounded himself with mostly far-left academic types. No one around him has ever even run a candy store. But they are going to try and run the auto, financial, banking and other industries. This obviously can’t work in the long run. Obama is not a socialist; rather he's a far-left secular progressive bent on nothing short of revolution. He ran as a moderate, but will govern from the hard left. Again, watch what he does, not what he says.
6. Obama doesn’t really see himself as President of the United States , but more as a ruler over the world. He sees himself above it all, trying to orchestrate and coordinate various countries and their agendas. He sees moral equivalency in all cultures. His apology tour in Germany and England was a prime example of how he sees America, as an imperialist nation that has been arrogant, rather than a great noble nation that has at times made errors. This is the first President ever who has chastised our allies and appeased our enemies!
7. He is now handing out goodies. He hopes that the bill (and pain) will not come due until after he is reelected in 2012. He would like to blame all problems on Bush from the past, and hopefully his successor in the future. He has a huge ego, and Mr. Krauthammer believes he is a narcissist.
8. Republicans are in the wilderness for a while, but will emerge strong. Were pining for another Reagan, but there will never be another like him. Krauthammer believes Mitt Romney, Tim Pawlenty and Bobby Jindahl (except for his terrible speech in February) are the future of the party. Newt Gingrich is brilliant, but has baggage. Sarah Palin is sincere and intelligent, but needs to be seriously boning up on facts and info if she is to be a serious candidate in the future. We need to return to the party of lower taxes, and
smaller government, personal responsibility, strong national defense, and state's rights.
9. The current level of spending is irresponsible and outrageous. We are spending trillions that we don’t have. This could lead to hyperinflation, depression or worse. No country has ever spent themselves into prosperity. The media is giving Obama, Reid and Pelosi a pass because they love their agenda. But eventually the bill will come due and people will realize the huge bailouts didn’t work, nor will the stimulus package.These were trillion-dollar payoffs to Obama’s allies, unions and the Congress to placate the left, so he can get support for #4 above.
10. The election was over in mid-September when Lehman brothers failed, fear and panic swept in, we had an unpopular President, and the war was grinding on indefinitely without a clear outcome. The people are in pain, and the mantra of change caused people to act emotionally. Any Dem. would have won this election; it was surprising it was as close as it was.
11. In 2012, if the unemployment rate is over 10%, Republicans will be swept back into power. If it's under 8%, the Dems. continue to roll. If it's between 8-10%, it will be a dogfight. It will all be about the economy.
I hope this gets you really thinking about what's happening in Washington and Congress. There is a left-wing revolution going on, according to Krauthammer, and he encourages us to keep the faith and join the loyal resistance. The work will be hard, but were right on most issues and can reclaim our country, before it's far too late.
Do yourself a long term favor, send this to all who will listen to an intelligent assessment of the big picture. All our futures and children's futures depend on our good understanding of what is really going on in DC!!!! And our action pursuant to that understanding!!! It really IS up to each of us to take individual action. Start with educating your friends and neighbors!!!
Rev. Daniel Thrower
In God We Trust
Can see the picture clearly now. Dems are Bolshevicki, Reps are Zionist
Both are tentacles of the SAME CREATURE
I'll meet you here in, oh, I don't know, let's say 2-3 weeks from 08/14/09. we'll notice the kids getting ready for school, I'll bet we can still watch Who Wants To Be a Millionaire? the leaves will be turning and "hawk" we'll be churning out yet another piece of slanted writing to instill fear based on some alleged "insider" he knows.
krawk!
Torus, you are a CIA plant.(I meant that as an insult!) But hey, all I can do is tell the people, wait and see, but I am not the only one who has already heard that this is happening. You just saw that Lizzy has heard that there will be banks she knows of that will start to close in a few days/weeks.
Keep telling the sheep to go back to sleep, keep telling lies, like there's nothing wrong. When in reality, we all know something is! When you say stuff like this, You discredit everything David Icke and Alan Watt, and other people stand for.
What everyone here is trying to do is we are ALL trying to figure out the truth. But people like you don't want the truth, so you would rather live a lie.
YOU want to believe that we are coming out of this recession, because your television told you it was true. You want to believe that the worst is over.
Me, I'm not so sure. That's why I have a wait and see attitude.
Slanted writing? You can kiss my ass for all I care!
Go back to your simple care free life and keep living that lie while the rest of us try to figure out what is real and what is not!
This a truth seekers forum, and to think that you insult people on here it means you insult David's work as well as the work of alot of other people. Everyone here wants to know the truth and we are all entitled to it.
I'm also willing to bet that you didn't just get kicked off for posting out a wrong date! No, you went there to make trouble but it came back and bit you in the ass,didn't it? You said more than something about a date being off. YOU said something that questioned Steve Quayle and his integrity!
See? I know, I do know how these things work.
You're an ass!
Go play with your blow up doll!
Thanks for playing! Bye!
*slams the door in torus' face*
torus
15-08-2009, 03:30 PM
careful lady hawk, those are some "broad" assumptions you're slinging. going to the concord bridge forums to cause trouble? nonsense. it was my duty to show that Hawk's "Swine Flu Through a Red Dawn Lens" article was infected with a blatant error from the start, coupled with his standard fear-mongering tactics. Given that I was banned after ONE post revealed more about them than myself. how my opinions taint David Icke is something I'll leave to your medicated self. You commence your response to me with an impotent insult. Hawk has trained you well! How am I telling the "sheep" to go back to sleep when I was encouraging them to OPEN THEIR EYES!?
What? Broad assumptions about the blow up doll? Come on, tell the truth. Enquiring minds want to know.:rolleyes:
The way you spout your garbage is nothing short of insulting to David and his work. Like I said,every one here just wants the truth. If the banks do start to close in certain areas for a week at a time, then on and on until all the banks have gone through this. Other people have heard about this banking holiday.
But that post is from another person un named because they wanted to remain anonymous.
I know I read somewhere either here or on another forum that all the banks all over the country have Amero notes being shipped to them. The public is not aware of this yet.
That email does not seem to be hype, becuz of the wording involved.
Also you seem to think that you are the only one whose opinions are right. That's the entire point! Opinions are like assholes,everybody's got one! Some people are one!
I don't know that Hawk. Never met him.
There is no insider. This pc of email was from someone who is anonymous.
it relates to this:have no idea about the validity of this, but it's posted on fourwinds:
[link to fourwinds10.com]
"Confirmation of Bank collapse from CIA and international banker"
August 11, 2009
FYI, I had a conversation with my friend in international banking yesterday and tried to warn him about the impending bank holiday and currency exchange. He said that because he works with people at the top (Rothschilds and Rockefellers, etc) he would know if this were true. He did however confirm again that all central banks have been stocking up on the new Amero currency. I encouraged him to check out my info.
Well, I received this in an e-mail from him just a few hours after our phone conversation:
"As to your Bank Holiday information of this morning, the following is from a close CIA connection, the way it will come down is that starting 8/24, groups of banks will be closed in certain regions of the country for a week or so. They will open again, and then other groups of banks in different regions will be closed; and on and on it will go, until all the banks in the country have gone through that process.
The banks will be opened with a new global currency. Indeed the ratio will be 1 to 6, or 1 to 12. Thus, if you had formerly $6M in the Bank, after a ratio of 1 to 6 with the new currency, you will get 1M value in the supposed new legal tender."
Time will tell, but this guy would not lightly say this, and he does have the CIA connections for the info.
All I said is let's wait and see.
MY question is, how are they going to handle 2 different types of currency in this country? Wouldn't they have to get rid of all the US dollars in circulation,eventually? It is just another form of monopoly money imo.
lizzy
15-08-2009, 04:36 PM
I now have a scanned copy of the document showing the SDR value but my HTML is set to off. Can anyone help?
bump.....anyone got the know how to help ozpixie?;)
torus
15-08-2009, 05:14 PM
What? Broad assumptions about the blow up doll? Come on, tell the truth. Enquiring minds want to know.:rolleyes:
The way you spout your garbage is nothing short of insulting to David and his work. Like I said,every one here just wants the truth. If the banks do start to close in certain areas for a week at a time, then on and on until all the banks have gone through this. Other people have heard about this banking holiday.
But that post is from another person un named because they wanted to remain anonymous.
I know I read somewhere either here or on another forum that all the banks all over the country have Amero notes being shipped to them. The public is not aware of this yet.
That email does not seem to be hype, becuz of the wording involved.
Also you seem to think that you are the only one whose opinions are right. That's the entire point! Opinions are like assholes,everybody's got one! Some people are one!
I don't know that Hawk. Never met him.
There is no insider. This pc of email was from someone who is anonymous.
it relates to this:have no idea about the validity of this, but it's posted on fourwinds:
[link to fourwinds10.com]
"Confirmation of Bank collapse from CIA and international banker"
August 11, 2009
FYI, I had a conversation with my friend in international banking yesterday and tried to warn him about the impending bank holiday and currency exchange. He said that because he works with people at the top (Rothschilds and Rockefellers, etc) he would know if this were true. He did however confirm again that all central banks have been stocking up on the new Amero currency. I encouraged him to check out my info.
Well, I received this in an e-mail from him just a few hours after our phone conversation:
"As to your Bank Holiday information of this morning, the following is from a close CIA connection, the way it will come down is that starting 8/24, groups of banks will be closed in certain regions of the country for a week or so. They will open again, and then other groups of banks in different regions will be closed; and on and on it will go, until all the banks in the country have gone through that process.
The banks will be opened with a new global currency. Indeed the ratio will be 1 to 6, or 1 to 12. Thus, if you had formerly $6M in the Bank, after a ratio of 1 to 6 with the new currency, you will get 1M value in the supposed new legal tender."
Time will tell, but this guy would not lightly say this, and he does have the CIA connections for the info.
All I said is let's wait and see.
hawk? genital/sexual references as a form of insult is something that you should have overcome at age 18.
Give it up, already,ok? I got more than enough to deal with. Let's stick to what we know already and see if we can't work together and come up with something better.
leviathanstaar
15-08-2009, 10:58 PM
Interesting.
Even now amongst those imbedded heavily in the mindset the system is real or not criminal, are now breaking ranks.
I find the part complaining about him chastizing allies disturbing however. (the apeasing enemies part is correct, shouldnt do that)
But there is nothing wrong with chastizing an ally out of control.
People better figure that out, lest some of histories greatest trajedy's come about in their name.
I smell focus groups/interests in those dissenting, despite the dissent being a good thing in general.
ozpixie
16-08-2009, 02:53 AM
With regard to the SDR on my doc, this seems to have been the chain of events:
I paid the merchant in $US via my PayPal account.
The merchant then went to USPS to post the package.
The $US he provided was then converted to SDR so it was the postage, not the goods that were paid for via SDR.
The $US quoted by the merchant for postage was $US29 but the SDR is for $18.15.
Nevertheless, it does prove they are in use and that some kind of exhange rate has to be in existence. I am now waiting for another package from the US (different merchant) and I will keep an eye out.
The parcel I got a few weeks ago from the UK does not show any SDR anywhere which suggests that it is not yet in wide use.
ozpixie, thanks for the info.
It helps to let us know that yes, there is something going on. This is a very interesting phase right now.
cleopatraxxx
16-08-2009, 04:20 AM
At this precise moment in time we all know Tamiflu and the Vaccines are wrong and dont help. We know this "Play" is about money - the Big Pharma have asked for a bailout - and this is "Their Bailout" as far as I can see. If it is to go futher than that I would be suprised and that is why I want something that says YES - there are people waiting in the wings to exploit this situation. Only that way can we see what is happening and deal with it.
hello radford,
i do not agree with what i marked in redin your sentence. SOME ARE and that is where the problem lies. if we ALL KNEW, we would have no problem, but not even half is aware of the fact of the dangers of the vaccine, so they will be rolling up their sleeves getting the vaccine. and thos who will not, will refuse and might or not be forced or imprisoned,... in either case, those who do not know, will end up dying or very ill of the consequences and that will still stop even more the economy and actually create the Martial law in which due to highly contagious amount of infected (via vaccine) people there will be the imposed the monitoring of or policing the people situation. so either way IF PEOPLE GET THE VACCINE THE PANDEMIC WILL DEFINITELY OCCUR. wihtou taking the vaccine we are SAFER! not ALL know this for now, unfortunately... and may be panicking ahead can create more awareness as such. not that i agree with fearmongering, but sometimes humans only take notice when it is an endangering to them situation...
but this is only my personal opinion ;-)
TNX
Peace
Cleo
eclecticspirit
16-08-2009, 03:41 PM
The comments posted earlier supposedly by Dr. Charles Krauthammer are inaccurate, as attested to by Krauthammer himself here:
http://www.americanexperiment.org/events/2009/2009-06-26.php
Just thought you all might like to stay on top of what's being put out there. :)
Good electic spirit. Thanks.
lizzy
16-08-2009, 05:06 PM
[link to fourwinds10.com]
"Confirmation of Bank collapse from CIA and international banker"
August 11, 2009
FYI, I had a conversation with my friend in international banking yesterday and tried to warn him about the impending bank holiday and currency exchange. He said that because he works with people at the top (Rothschilds and Rockefellers, etc) he would know if this were true. He did however confirm again that all central banks have been stocking up on the new Amero currency. I encouraged him to check out my info.
Well, I received this in an e-mail from him just a few hours after our phone conversation:
"As to your Bank Holiday information of this morning, the following is from a close CIA connection, the way it will come down is that starting 8/24, groups of banks will be closed in certain regions of the country for a week or so. They will open again, and then other groups of banks in different regions will be closed; and on and on it will go, until all the banks in the country have gone through that process.
The banks will be opened with a new global currency. Indeed the ratio will be 1 to 6, or 1 to 12. Thus, if you had formerly $6M in the Bank, after a ratio of 1 to 6 with the new currency, you will get 1M value in the supposed new legal tender."
Time will tell, but this guy would not lightly say this, and he does have the CIA connections for the info.
All I said is let's wait and see.
thanks hawk......the FED has 4 or 5 banking "regions" in the usa. When told about the Sept 1 -4th closure, I think I was dealing with a person in Florence , SC ( the property insurance division)........
eclecticspirit
16-08-2009, 05:51 PM
Good electic spirit. Thanks.
You're welcome. :D
esowteric
16-08-2009, 06:00 PM
EMERGENCY ALERT ... AFTER RECEIVING A FLOOD OF INFORMATION FROM VARIOUS SOURCES ...
Sorry, hawk, but whenever I read a message written in block capitals (and equally when folk bellow "I MOST HUMBLY PRAY" or "IN MY HUMBLE OPINION"), 99% of the time it goes straight in the trash can after a brief scan. A person's words should work without the need to shout.
Here's hoping your messenger is just another crank and this doesn't happen.
With good wishes,
eric.
Sorry, hawk, but whenever I read a message written in block capitals (and equally when folk bellow "I MOST HUMBLY PRAY" or "IN MY HUMBLE OPINION"), 99% of the time it goes straight in the trash can after a brief scan. A person's words should work without the need to shout.
Here's hoping your messenger is just another crank and this doesn't happen.
With good wishes,
eric.
Whatever!:rolleyes:
cleopatraxxx
17-08-2009, 02:06 AM
Sorry, hawk, but whenever I read a message written in block capitals (and equally when folk bellow "I MOST HUMBLY PRAY" or "IN MY HUMBLE OPINION"), 99% of the time it goes straight in the trash can after a brief scan. A person's words should work without the need to shout.
Here's hoping your messenger is just another crank and this doesn't happen.
With good wishes,
eric.
curiously enough i use CAPS LOCK to ouline the words of importance in my sentences, Not meant to be taken as shouting. as shouting i use MANY Exlamation marks in the end of the shouted sentence...
just to let you know that different people use different ways to outline their emotions
Cleo
True, cleopatrxxxx.Thanks for that.
ozpixie
19-08-2009, 06:32 AM
For those interested in SDR this link might provide helpful info:
http://www.rba.gov.au/Glossary/detail.asp?term=SDR
ozpixie
19-08-2009, 06:34 AM
And this as well:
http://www.treasury.gov.au/documents/1240/HTML/docshell.asp?URL=01_Preliminaries.htm
Australia is a member of the IMF, World Bank, ADB and the European Bank for Reconstruction and Development (EBRD). Information on all four institutions is provided in the Treasury annual report and is also available from the institutions themselves. Given Australia’s small shareholding in the EBRD, and the EBRD’s specific mandate, no additional reporting on its operations is contained in this report.
ozpixie
19-08-2009, 06:37 AM
And this one will tell you what the current SDR exchange rates are (each participating currency) for August 2009:
http://www.imf.org/external/np/fin/data/rms_mth.aspx?reporttype=CVSDR
motleyhoo
19-08-2009, 07:33 AM
Regardless of your political affiliation, I believe this man, Dr. Krauthammer On Fox News,
is the most brilliant mind in all of Washington, bar none.
That guy is a hardcore neo-con who believes the USA has a superpower's right to setup bases in any country it wants to in order to secure its oil and other interests. Notice how he slams the malfeasance of the Left, but seems to think the Right is God's gift to humanity. Everything he says is stated from that slanted point of view.
.
Another reason to remember that it's not about left or right.They do that to keep people like us fighting while they do something underhanded.
My son figured out the ratio of 1 to 6. If this change over happens,becuz 4 more banks have been listed as failed, he figured a random number .
Say you draw SS in your check every month and the amount is $569.00, he figured with the 1 to 6 ratio, you would only get a check for $95.00!
That's how this works. How are people going to live if they are dependent on their SS?
Now if they want a war, then you start messing with people's money and a way for them to feed themselves, you will get hell.
God help us. :(
dolores1
27-08-2009, 04:21 AM
I still think the bank holiday will be 09.09.09,
But I could be wrong.
el jefe
30-08-2009, 07:23 PM
I now have a scanned copy of the document showing the SDR value but my HTML is set to off. Can anyone help?
Anyone ever host this?
gtycoon
31-08-2009, 01:02 AM
Well, they want an uprising and a war. The want total destruction of the United States so that they can create a new superpower. The Phoenix will rise from the ashes so to speak.
They did this in history many times before, once to France and Rome. This is there game.
el jefe
03-09-2009, 06:52 PM
Ron Paul mentioned SDR's with Glenn Beck last night!!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wVL_qZaRjK4