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roage
11-08-2009, 03:05 PM
Enlightenment and protection comes through a body of law surrounding the real concept of sovereignty and the concepts in law that allow us to protect this gift. The Grail Law is what truly separates royalty from the common man. It is not a cup or a bloodline as it is available to anyone who chooses to truly escape this fun-house. We have been lied to. We have been deprived of the Holy Grail law by nearly all our "official" institutions and therefore we are not able to enjoy divine grace and protection. That is...until now...

I found the Grail at 4:44 AM July 4th 2006 and unlike most I approached this process like a scientist and documented the procedure. Anyone can establish a two-way communication with this entity we know as God. No not aliens, not spirit guides but the Supreme Authority from which all Law, Love, Truth, material, energy and power flows. I share this knowledge freely and many people have already duplicated the process. One word of caution the Big Guy can be extremely awesome and intimidating at first so don't freak out when you actually get the procedure to work. Another thing, most about what you think about this place you find yourself is wrong so be prepared to accept a different view of the world around you.

Here are three articles that each describe the procedure from simple to more in depth.

Cheat Sheet (http://www.roage.com/default.aspx?PageID=165&AspxAutoDetectCookieSupport=1)

Divine Grace Study Guide (http://www.roage.com/default.aspx?PageID=134)

The Handbook of Ø (http://www.roage.com/default.aspx?PageID=23)

I am at your service and will entertain questions.

Warm Regards,

Roger-Kent: Pool
(Roage)

lightgiver
11-08-2009, 10:10 PM
Enlightenment and protection comes through a body of law surrounding the real concept of sovereignty and the concepts in law that allow us to protect this gift. The Grail Law is what truly separates royalty from the common man. It is not a cup or a bloodline as it is available to anyone who chooses to truly escape this fun-house. We have been lied to. We have been deprived of the Holy Grail law by nearly all our "official" institutions and therefore we are not able to enjoy divine grace and protection. That is...until now...

I found the Grail at 4:44 AM July 4th 2006 and unlike most I approached this process like a scientist and documented the procedure. Anyone can establish a two-way communication with this entity we know as God. No not aliens, not spirit guides but the Supreme Authority from which all Law, Love, Truth, material, energy and power flows. I share this knowledge freely and many people have already duplicated the process. One word of caution the Big Guy can be extremely awesome and intimidating at first so don't freak out when you actually get the procedure to work. Another thing, most about what you think about this place you find yourself is wrong so be prepared to accept a different view of the world around you.

Here are three articles that each describe the procedure from simple to more in depth.

Cheat Sheet (http://www.roage.com/main.asp?PageID=163)

Divine Grace Study Guide (http://www.roage.com/main.asp?PageID=134)

The Handbook of Ø (http://www.roage.com/main.asp?PageID=23)

I am at your service and will entertain questions.

Warm Regards,

Roger-Kent: Pool
(Roage)



Hello :) good 1st post.

Cheers for that.I will bookmark that,and come to it later.looks interesting at first glance.

cruise4
12-08-2009, 03:07 PM
Has some interesting perspectives. Still reading. Cheers.

nectars
12-08-2009, 09:55 PM
Will take a look dude, sounds interesting :)

roage
13-08-2009, 05:08 AM
Thanks Folks,

My only wish is that others experience life as I do now: free, happy and at ease. I humbly ask the help from all those wonderful people I have and had the distinct and unique honor of encountering.

Warm Regards,

Roage

deem
13-08-2009, 05:57 AM
Read some of it, Im familiar with Grail. Good post.:)

helloperator
13-08-2009, 07:54 AM
Cool, there's a cheat sheet. That makes it all easier.

Thanks roage!!

You da man

anahata
13-08-2009, 12:09 PM
Well this sounds very exciting. *goes away to read, hoping not to be disappointed*

deckard666
13-08-2009, 12:49 PM
Well this sounds very exciting. *goes away to read, hoping not to be disappointed*

I think you will only be disappointed if you want that.

anahata
13-08-2009, 02:09 PM
I think you will only be disappointed if you want that.

Well, nothing new. Not disappointed though.

roage
13-08-2009, 03:01 PM
When you say there is "nothing new" then why has there not been a quantum change in this game? Is it because we collectively wish to exist in a house of horrors? What of those who have the law? Why do they not teach it? Do we not know that one is not sovereign without specific notification? I see many chasing fictions of law and determine their freedom from books penned by those that are glad that we choose to be their slaves. Are we taught that we lose our power and sovereignty through contract? It is a very narrow perceptual path and it is so easy to miss that we seldom even know we have missed it and we relent and decide we need to keep looking. How do I know you missed the nuance? The most typical blunder is we lie to ourselves and convince ourselves that we have power and that we are truly happy and free. Most settle on the notion that freedom comes only upon our death. This is a lie.

Take time to answer the next three questions perhaps even spending a week on each one.

"If one cannot not detect the walls of a perceptual cage that surrounds them then would they ever think to escape it?"

"If one could be truly free and happy on this earth would one choose to be so?"

The more important question is:

"As I am sovereign, do I need to ask people if they speak the Truth?"

The "whys" that surround these questions hold the key to the doorway out.

Cheers,

Roage

nectars
13-08-2009, 07:34 PM
Good post.

I've read through some of the material on the site and must say I'm finding it very interesting to say the least. Even being quite well versed in the teachings you refer to, theres a few very important differences I've already noted in what your proposing. Pretty big ones at that.

It's difficult to articulate, but a few things I've realised recently "seem" to be acting in a catalytic sense in regards to what your pointing towards, and like yourself I dont believe in "coincedences".

I'll update later when I've gone through the information properly enough to decide my next course of action.

Many thanks friend.

cruise4
13-08-2009, 08:10 PM
To many inconsistencies to warrant asking questions. I just didn't want to leave the post blank.

striecx
13-08-2009, 11:23 PM
Roage, What is the difference between the self and the ego.

To me the ego has always been an identity belief system, It is the self because it always defends itself when its sense of identity ( beliefs) is threatened.

I personally feel that my self is spiral-cycling through belief systems, especially when in the presence of different people or situations. It tends to act in the default conditioned way.

Also what is the difference between Higher self and the one All powerfull, All knowing, all perceiving God?

alrick888
14-08-2009, 12:14 PM
I believe that the essence of any worthwhile philosophy can be expressed in one or two sentences.

roage
14-08-2009, 03:06 PM
Roage, What is the difference between the self and the ego.

To me the ego has always been an identity belief system, It is the self because it always defends itself when its sense of identity ( beliefs) is threatened.

I personally feel that my self is spiral-cycling through belief systems, especially when in the presence of different people or situations. It tends to act in the default conditioned way.

Also what is the difference between Higher self and the one All powerfull, All knowing, all perceiving God?

The Self is the spirit within, the "Holy Spirit", in a biblical sense. The Ego is a physical defense mechanism and the outward projection or persona. It is the suit our "self" wears in public. It interacts with the simulation and the individuated facets of the singular source of all consciousness, such that we perceive this false separation as "other" people. In this way the ego allows us to constructively forget that we are all one. This allows for a range of experience gained through interaction of sovereign elements. Countless individuated experiences thus can be simultaneously fed back to The Source providing simultaneous experiential knowledge and experimental proof through trial and error. The volume of information is mind-boggling. The "self" is collective there is only one and that which looks out of my eyes that I think is "me" is the same being that looks out of your eyes that you call "you". There is but one "I". We are the same being, we only perceive ourselves as separate. In this way we can forgive our "self" for any injury done to our "self". One must conclude that it makes no sense to lie to another facet of our "self" or injure "them" unless that injury forms the basis of a vital lesson.

Does that help?

roage
14-08-2009, 03:12 PM
I believe that the essence of any worthwhile philosophy can be expressed in one or two sentences.

Well said, however it is not the concept that is cumbersome and lengthy it is the proof and the identification of bad assumptions that must be systematically dispelled before a simple truth can be realized.

He is the short version:

No one has the power to force you to do anything against your will. You have nothing to be afraid of and there is nothing in this universe that can keep you from happiness other then your own inability to perceive the Truth.

I am simply happy to be. That is my only required function and obligation.

I am an observer "JAFO" if you will. ;)

striecx
14-08-2009, 10:15 PM
The Self is the spirit within, the "Holy Spirit", in a biblical sense. The Ego is a physical defense mechanism and the outward projection or persona. It is the suit our "self" wears in public. It interacts with the simulation and the individuated facets of the singular source of all consciousness, such that we perceive this false separation as "other" people. In this way the ego allows us to constructively forget that we are all one. This allows for a range of experience gained through interaction of sovereign elements. Countless individuated experiences thus can be simultaneously fed back to The Source providing simultaneous experiential knowledge and experimental proof through trial and error. The volume of information is mind-boggling. The "self" is collective there is only one and that which looks out of my eyes that I think is "me" is the same being that looks out of your eyes that you call "you". There is but one "I". We are the same being, we only perceive ourselves as separate. In this way we can forgive our "self" for any injury done to our "self". One must conclude that it makes no sense to lie to another facet of our "self" or injure "them" unless that injury forms the basis of a vital lesson.

Does that help?

It does help clarify a lot Roage, You seem to know your stuff ( hope that you can manage your ego with that statement hehe:D)

I feel as if you believe that everyone should find their own truth using the reading material you posted as a guide , but if you could give me your ego or self point of view on the following:

- The sub-conscious and the conscious. I have read that the subconscious mind generates approximately more than 85% of our conscious decisions ( I can't find article) But I did find that Brain Scanners can detect a decision 7 seconds before you make it:
http://www.wired.com/science/discoveries/news/2008/04/mind_decision

So: I am guessing the self, operates the subconscious because it arranges reality makes subconscious decisions so that the ego consciously learns some lessons.
And all this is powered by the heart energy or spirit energy.

I am just guessing what I understand from my point of view.

- Do you think that all individual subconsciouses are operated by the one self?
- Do you think they are synched so that person A does something that person B will react to, and this is all so that the ego in person A or B or both can learn a lesson?

I structured this post so bad, hope you get what I'm saying.

roage
15-08-2009, 12:04 AM
It does help clarify a lot Roage, You seem to know your stuff ( hope that you can manage your ego with that statement hehe:D)

I feel as if you believe that everyone should find their own truth using the reading material you posted as a guide , but if you could give me your ego or self point of view on the following:
The differences between "my truth" and "your truth" are merely our differing ability to perceive. Objectively the Truth is the same and as we learn to better observe we will move closer to being "of one mind".

- The sub-conscious and the conscious. I have read that the subconscious mind generates approximately more than 85% of our conscious decisions ( I can't find article) But I did find that Brain Scanners can detect a decision 7 seconds before you make it:
http://www.wired.com/science/discoveries/news/2008/04/mind_decision

So: I am guessing the self, operates the subconscious because it arranges reality makes subconscious decisions so that the ego consciously learns some lessons.

If one can place the ego into the closet one can operate entirely from the self. This has advantages as the self does not edit perception like the ego and one can see things as they are.

And all this is powered by the heart energy or spirit energy.

What powers it specifically is not as important to me as the fact that it is powered. In truth I don't buy the volume and time construct as our holographic projector the brain presents it. I think we can all take what we want from it. No pressure.


I am just guessing what I understand from my point of view.

- Do you think that all individual subconsciouses are operated by the one self?
- Do you think they are synched so that person A does something that person B will react to, and this is all so that the ego in person A or B or both can learn a lesson?

Well the Self works to provide the observer with situations that have value. Good/Bad is semantic. We learn best from suffering, pain and failure. How that pain and suffering come into being is largely by the ego permitted to make bad choices through specific blindness from the truth the Self allows to be concealed as the self is the Gate keeper to the Truth. I can't see this as subconscious versus conscious structure as that model although works from a pre-sovereign position, it does not work well with one who has "switched on" the right-side or feminine sides of their brain. It is from that side where our intuition flows. This right-brain tool of divination or communication with "God/Source" being exclusively female mind based has caused much suffering for females. We need to realize that our society is largely patriarchal and our minds when complete use both sides. This right-brained thinking has been suppressed so it is no wonder we see the result all around us. Lot's of "doing" without a lot of meaningful purpose.

After one connects with the "mainframe" one can see that there is an inter play between the ego and the self and one tends to ignore what the ego is doing in favor of a more accurate view that only the self has access to. This is why muscle testing works. You access the self directly.

The brain does not generate the mind. The brain is merely the tool that the mind uses to perceive the construct we know of as "reality". The brain creates electrical impulses the mind can decode by lighting up areas in space. This is a complete inversion of the function of the brain. Those that have brain injuries cannot perceive or transmit (in actions) as effectively as someone who has healthy brain but that in no way diminishes the mind, just the information channel. The intelligent have a more robust tool not a better "mind".

Like the self there is only one mind.




I structured this post so bad, hope you get what I'm saying.

Well in truth I am an idiot, really. I could not and did not come up with this. It was all given to me and I will not take credit for any of it. I only try to relay it accurately and quite frankly I am, obviously, not good at it yet.

You might check out 2012 The future on mankind from my video section on the site. It will allow you to think in different ways about things.

Cheers

Roage

vetis
15-08-2009, 12:27 AM
Even if you dont feel fear at death for not complying, who would want to see horrible tortures inflicted on their children etc.. rather than doing something against their will.

Extreme example but people can force you to do things you dont want, peoples leverage is just different.

alrick888
15-08-2009, 01:47 PM
Well said, however it is not the concept that is cumbersome and lengthy it is the proof and the identification of bad assumptions that must be systematically dispelled before a simple truth can be realized.

He is the short version:

No one has the power to force you to do anything against your will. You have nothing to be afraid of and there is nothing in this universe that can keep you from happiness other then your own inability to perceive the Truth.

I am simply happy to be. That is my only required function and obligation.

I am an observer "JAFO" if you will. ;)

OK, am still reading and I like the Handbook of Ø where you have replaced the word God with Ø, the mathematical symbol for 'empty collection' because there is not a sufficient word for it in human language.

True freedom is the state of recognizing that nothing in the Universe has power over a man or woman who has fully acknowledged and submitted to the will of Ø.

bemore
15-08-2009, 02:42 PM
Hi Roage

I have read all of your links and in time will try to study more of your site.

I believe that there is a force that controls the universe but i dont really follow any "Version" of any religion, I take what feels right and live by it. I do have a few questions though for me to gain some better understanding.

Why has ..... let us forget and be controlled and fooled if everything we do is ..... and all actions are ....? or is that part of the lesson???

I am 28 years old, i have lived my ego every single second of it and have become quite comfortable with it : ) I dont really consider myself bad and to let go of it is quite daunting as I need to be aware of what will be given to replace it/what will remain once i have shed it.





I sort of allready partially have an understanding of what you are saying, that the tool called my BRAIN is just that and what I percieve to be black and white may very well be yellow and blue to somebody else but will be seen in the same undertstanding. I believe I may be on the verge of a realisation but i cannot describe what it will be. The best way would be this

"




"

That doesnt mean nothing, yet it means everything.

Can be seen as confusing I suppose to anyone other than me lol.

Thanks

relax
15-08-2009, 04:27 PM
Really good thread and interesting website. Struggling to understand your use and meaning of the word sovereign, especially the page on it on your site.

I read on your site you can demonstrate your relationship with 'god', how and if possible please do.

Would love to hear your views on the other topics on here like ufo's also.

roage
15-08-2009, 05:13 PM
Hi Roage

I have read all of your links and in time will try to study more of your site.

I believe that there is a force that controls the universe but i dont really follow any "Version" of any religion, I take what feels right and live by it. I do have a few questions though for me to gain some better understanding.

Why has ..... let us forget and be controlled and fooled if everything we do is ..... and all actions are ....? or is that part of the lesson???

I am 28 years old, i have lived my ego every single second of it and have become quite comfortable with it : ) I dont really consider myself bad and to let go of it is quite daunting as I need to be aware of what will be given to replace it/what will remain once i have shed it.





I sort of allready partially have an understanding of what you are saying, that the tool called my BRAIN is just that and what I percieve to be black and white may very well be yellow and blue to somebody else but will be seen in the same undertstanding. I believe I may be on the verge of a realisation but i cannot describe what it will be. The best way would be this

"




"

That doesnt mean nothing, yet it means everything.

Can be seen as confusing I suppose to anyone other than me lol.

Thanks

You are on the right track.

The secret is were are born with everything we need to know but fear, peer pressure (fear again) causes us to suppress our intuition and this is why when we know ourselves we connect. Religion is not required. Religion is part of the crown and cross methodology for inducing us to give our minds over to those "who think they rule".

You do not need me to teach you. All that is needed is for one to place themselves in a place where they can see and know the Truth.

The man who wrote the definition of sanity and insanity had an agenda such that if one's perception makes them a miserable slave with no responsibility then that is called sane. The truly happy man or woman at peace must be insane and, more importantly, must be shunned to return to the fold.

"I bow to no man" (Chronicles of Riddick)



Cheers

roage
15-08-2009, 05:23 PM
Really good thread and interesting website. Struggling to understand your use and meaning of the word sovereign, especially the page on it on your site.

I read on your site you can demonstrate your relationship with 'god', how and if possible please do.

Would love to hear your views on the other topics on here like ufo's also.

The page "A Word to Sovereigns" can help one determine weather they have had the perception modified. If it is confusing then that is an indicator.

The links that I started the thread with are the most important. The procedure is there. Many get confused because the think it is complicated. It is not however the key is transforming faith to certainty and choosing to place one's trust completely where it belongs. That is not easy because, typically, one's ego has a hard time relinquishing control.

The article titled "Transcending Perception" shows how I came to process. In truth my ego was dragged kicking and screaming to it.

http://www.roage.com/main.asp?PageID=14

http://www.roage.com/main.asp?PageID=15

I am not the best of us, I am the least but I am happy just to be counted among you.

Roage

roage
15-08-2009, 05:37 PM
As far as UFO's and alternative history.

The most important thing we can do is reconnect with the "Mainframe".

We have been lied to. So pervasive is this deception that when one penetrates the veil of deception the discover that nearly everything we take as truth is a cleverly crafted illusion.

One needs to first connect then return to these subjects with new eyes.

I am reading the Anunnaki Encylopedia vol I and II
By Maximilien De Lafayette

And his works on the Ulema Code.

But again...

One must first tune their radio receiver to a clear channel before they can expect to hear more then just static.

I have been trying to contact David Icke for some time. What he speaks has value and should not be discounted, however, he has a venue to help people truly be free from the yoke of bad perception through the application of simple law. No matter how valid the information he presents is, he must know that before one can even be in a place to hear and understand it, they must see and hear with new eyes. That is the Grail Law.

If one can help in this capacity then work will be done.

David are you listening?

Roage

The page "A Word to Sovereigns" can help one determine weather they have had the perception modified. If it is confusing then that is an indicator.

The links that I started the thread with are the most important. The procedure is there. Many get confused because the think it is complicated. It is not however the key is transforming faith to certainty and choosing to place one's trust completely where it belongs. That is not easy because, typically, one's ego has a hard time relinquishing control.

The article titled "Transcending Perception" shows how I came to process. In truth my ego was dragged kicking and screaming to it.

http://www.roage.com/main.asp?PageID=14

http://www.roage.com/main.asp?PageID=15

I am not the best of us, I am the least but I am happy just to be counted among you.

Roage

roage
15-08-2009, 08:45 PM
Good post.

I've read through some of the material on the site and must say I'm finding it very interesting to say the least. Even being quite well versed in the teachings you refer to, there's a few very important differences I've already noted in what your proposing. Pretty big ones at that.

It's difficult to articulate, but a few things I've realised recently "seem" to be acting in a catalytic sense in regards to what your pointing towards, and like yourself I dont believe in "coincedences".

I'll update later when I've gone through the information properly enough to decide my next course of action.

Many thanks friend.

It does not surprise me that there would be some, as you are, detecting a ripple in their experience. You are starting to see how much power is about to be expressed on our behalf.

This "modification" to one's perception is the most profound and mind-boggling experience one can transition through.

You are about to become "Pharos Nuse" or "Mind on Fire" this is where we get the word "Pharaoh" but one must not forget that behind the man that thinks are two women that divine through intuition. The upside is it is not a physical suppression of females where we lost our way but the suppression of female part of our minds.

How can one "do" with out a thought to "why"?

You are totally on to it!

I can tell because it affects me as well as we are one. ;)

Have fun!

God I love this Game!

Roage

roage
16-08-2009, 05:32 PM
Even if you dont feel fear at death for not complying, who would want to see horrible tortures inflicted on their children etc.. rather than doing something against their will.

Extreme example but people can force you to do things you dont want, peoples leverage is just different.

Ah! this is the deception that lies at the crux of the controlling power!

The man who is free knows that this is not valid nor provable against a man who trusts this thing called God without condition as purposeless suffering is a concept outside of a perfect being's will. There is purpose in thinking that another man has the power against one's will in that it is one must fully suppress one's ego and fear to move past that hurdle. It is an essential lesson one must learn.

Either one has faith (Certainty) or they do not. Only complete faith (Certainty) will work. I call that "unconditional trust" and it is a narrow path.

Sounds easy doesn't it?

I understand how hard it is, really. I was dragged to a point where I had no other choice. I would spare you that if it made sense to do so but the complete lack of power and choices is a wonderful learning experience.

The instant one is able to achieve this state, they then realize they have nothing to worry about either for themselves or anyone else for that matter.

This is why Icke pushes the "dream world" concept. He is right.

It is a tricky lesson to learn. Once learned one moves into a different set of lessons. However, the fun factor is enormous when you realize that even if it looks like the roller coaster has left its tracks and although, from the view of the others in the amusement park, the carnage looks frightening, the "afflicted" riders get up look around laugh at the others looking in horror. They then know they are not permitted to let the living in on the secret as that would ruin the surprise. Some may even try to enter the park once more.

You seem to me as a cut above normal, would you ride a boring roller coaster?

This all begs a question why now are some permitted to peer behind the scenery?

We are moving into a new paradigm, remember? Everything is changing. We are now moving on to a new set of lessons. This is the final for this class. Let's see how many pass.

Learn to trust God without condition. God will help you if you ask but don't be surprised if it requires cracking your ego such that you pull your hand back from the joystick. Just remember the joystick of life was never really connected to anything. Life only "appears" to obey our commands.

http://www.roage.com/main.asp?PageID=58#Q19

One more thing to think about:

It is necessary lesson for an immortal being to experience mortality. In this way the Universe and our lives serve that function perfectly. We can only see past this threshold once we have passed it. I am not permitted tell you it is so such that you believe it. The only way to see and believe it is can only see it for yourself. I can only show you how to place yourself in the position. It has been said many times: "I can show you the door but you must open it."

I am not alone and as the numbers of those on the other side gain, those in the old paradigm will more readily allow themselves to take this one last "leap of faith". In Indiana Jones "The Last Crusade" it was a physical leap. It all become so obvious and hilarious when you "get it" and realize you have known this all along.

Warm Regards,

Roage

p.s. You might try this one:

The Golden Chainsaw of Power (http://www.roage.com/main.asp?PageID=48)

esowteric
16-08-2009, 05:43 PM
Enlightenment and protection comes through a body of law surrounding the real concept of sovereignty and the concepts in law that allow us to protect this gift ...

:) Hey, that's a great cheat sheet, Roger. And not so different from the Sufi philosophy. Patience, trust, flexibility and love are also needed.

Many thanks and good fortune to you,
eric.

nectars
16-08-2009, 07:59 PM
Hi roage,

Many thanks for the information above. As yet I'm still chewing my way repeatedly over much of the information on your site. From experience it seems "familiarity" with concepts and not "memory" is is the best way to digest these things and "Own them".

Learn to trust God without condition. God will help you if you ask but don't be surprised if it requires cracking your ego such that you pull your hand back from the joystick. Just remember the joystick of life was never really connected to anything. Life only "appears" to obey our commands.

Regarding the above, the underlined I've already(and unfortunately) experienced. I cant say if it was similar to what you experienced, but it may hopefully be of use to anyone who comes to a similar one.

While contemplating the question "What Am I?" and releasing and rejecting all mind activity(also doing one or two other things as well simultaneously), I felt myself(or consciousness) expand both outward an inward towards what seemed like infinity accompanied by a progressive knowingness of being present in all location, time and space. The ego went nuts at the possibility of its demise and pulled back from this almost as instantly as it realised what was happening. Unfortunately at the time, I was unaware of a simple concept which could have allowed me go go past this "Final doorway" as David R.Hawkins refers to it.

"When you reach the Final Doorway, Walk through all fear no matter what. If you feel like your dying, let it happen." - David R.Hawkins

Anyway, hopefully this will help anyone else who decides to take to this, as for myself I've yet to email you about one other minor concern I've had. Even at that, I feel as though I'm being pushed towards it, so the decisons most likely out of my hands since I unwittingly made the decision(contract) on it a while back, and dont think it's not one I'm being allowed to back away from.

In Thanks,

ND.

roage
17-08-2009, 02:53 PM
:) Hey, that's a great cheat sheet, Roger. And not so different from the Sufi philosophy. Patience, trust, flexibility and love are also needed.

Many thanks and good fortune to you,
eric.

Hi Eric,

All the "good" things come naturally when one lives in self.

More importantly, the "bad" things become "good" things when they are treated as vital elements of a constructive learning experience.

As far as the similarities, it has been compared to Deism also. I was not well read in philosophy and comparative religions. I had concluded early in life that if man had it figured out then things would not be as they are. I decided to try to contact the supreme authority in this matter and He/She had joyfully availed them "self" to my education.

I did not know I was being educated in this way until my moment of enlightenment and now I perceive them easily.

Cheers

Roger

roage
17-08-2009, 02:56 PM
Hi roage,

Many thanks for the information above. As yet I'm still chewing my way repeatedly over much of the information on your site. From experience it seems "familiarity" with concepts and not "memory" is is the best way to digest these things and "Own them".



Regarding the above, the underlined I've already(and unfortunately) experienced. I cant say if it was similar to what you experienced, but it may hopefully be of use to anyone who comes to a similar one.

While contemplating the question "What Am I?" and releasing and rejecting all mind activity(also doing one or two other things as well simultaneously), I felt myself(or consciousness) expand both outward an inward towards what seemed like infinity accompanied by a progressive knowingness of being present in all location, time and space. The ego went nuts at the possibility of its demise and pulled back from this almost as instantly as it realised what was happening. Unfortunately at the time, I was unaware of a simple concept which could have allowed me go go past this "Final doorway" as David R.Hawkins refers to it.

"When you reach the Final Doorway, Walk through all fear no matter what. If you feel like your dying, let it happen." - David R.Hawkins

Anyway, hopefully this will help anyone else who decides to take to this, as for myself I've yet to email you about one other minor concern I've had. Even at that, I feel as though I'm being pushed towards it, so the decisons most likely out of my hands since I unwittingly made the decision(contract) on it a while back, and dont think it's not one I'm being allowed to back away from.

In Thanks,

ND.

"When you reach the Final Doorway, Walk through all fear no matter what. If you feel like your dying, let it happen." - David R.Hawkins

This is the truth.

nectars
18-08-2009, 08:35 AM
Hi again,

This may be a touch off topic, and I realise your only allowed to say so much, but what is you understanding/view of 2012 & the mayan prophecy?

Also more in line with the thread as this may affect many, what effect in the larger contex if any does being granted soverignty have(if any) on family life and personal or sexual relations with ones partner.

Answers much appreciated :)

relax
18-08-2009, 02:48 PM
By having this connection do you have answers that people only debate and speculate about within the different sections of this forum, things to do with our origin etc?

roage
18-08-2009, 04:55 PM
Hi again,

This may be a touch off topic, and I realise your only allowed to say so much, but what is you understanding/view of 2012 & the mayan prophecy?

Also more in line with the thread as this may affect many, what effect in the larger contex if any does being granted soverignty have(if any) on family life and personal or sexual relations with ones partner.

Answers much appreciated :)

Well the "Great Revealing" will invalidate the purpose of the construct, as it exists now. What purpose does suffering serve to one who welcomes it as a positive experience (Being that suffering and pain serve the purpose of getting "us" to pay attention)? None. Once the attention is fixed then suffering ebbs as it serves no purpose.

I apologize for the imprecision of the language as we do not have adequate pronouns to describe correctly the true entities/entity at play. "I" is collective. "We" and "Our" imply a plurality that does not truly exist. That said:

We, and I speak of the singular consciousness that our egos are simply a physical facet manifested to yield the appearance of individuated plurality to create an experiential interplay between virtual separate identities. These "ego" days are numbered. The ego has given us, through this experience of history and humanity, the ability to experience all manner of depravity such that "we" can judge the constructive course in knowing what to and what not to do.

I see the post 2012 paradigm as an application of the lessons learned after a period of collective introspection and "Judgment". These are necessary steps in the process of learning. The "experiment" has yielded results and has largely run its course. We sit on the cusp of its implementation. The implication is mind-boggling.

When one "transcends" it has an immediate knock-on effect on everything and everyone around them. There will be two paths a partner can take and it is up to the partner to choose with you the function of your collective course and lesson. The effect of your transformation will be noticed and more probably not fully understood. They may, however, treat your improved abilities as an ungrounded threat that they can either meet and surmount, leading to their own transcendence, or simply run in fear. I imagine that you already know the answer in your case and you are attempting to come to grips with it. Know that: if it is to be or not to be, will be determined by the best outcome for both of you. Do not be discouraged as appearances do not always betray what is occurring behind the scenes or in your partner's mind. Remember, the death of an ego is a traumatic event and it manifest itself, sometime, in curious and drastic ways.

Patience is needed. It took my wife 3 years to adjust and now we are closer to being one mind then we have ever been.

As far as the sexual implications. I do not wish to ruin the surprise.

Roage

roage
19-08-2009, 03:33 PM
By having this connection do you have answers that people only debate and speculate about within the different sections of this forum, things to do with our origin etc?

One's ability to look at the work of men and discern what rings true and what is distraction is a handy tool to have. The most critical issue, and this should be recognized by many here, is that most people cannot discern the truth even when it is placed before their eyes. Some reject it out of hand, some cannot bring themselves to believe it, some just cannot make time to read or watch and some assume they already know what is being presented. Whichever the case the effect is that they cannot receive the truth. The reason is one cannot receive this truth because the burden is too great. Only those with a firm grip on the escape from it are permitted to know because when one does glimpse the truth of their circumstance within this simulation it can be absolutely terrifying to the ungrounded.

When one places themself in the proper position the truth will begin flowing. If one remains in that position the flow of truth will continue. It finds you and not the other way around.

This is the reason that helping people place themselves in the proper position should be the first step in helping people awaken. As this requires overcoming fear, it serves no purpose by attempting to scare people with the truth as that is completely unproductive. Start with one's escape and it gives them the courage to see. Some one should give Alex Jones a clue because he divides and scares people just in the same way as those he sets up as the opposition.

I know there are "evil" men at the top that want a moral "out" just as much, or more, as those at the bottom. If the populace does not give them a chance and chooses violence then they cannot expect the "evil" men to relent. They fear us for good reason. We must demonstrate as a people that we are prepared to comport ourselves, not like violent animals, but as compassionate and forgiving men and women who share equally in causing our enslavement.

We need to dispense with this idiotic notion that sovereignty is exclusionary and follows bloodlines. That which men have called "God" determines who among us are the true kings and queens. One need not fear a sovereign as the are not able to create victims. One need fear those that advocate violence, confrontation and unrest. These are not required to affect the change we need. It does however require that we all respect one another as kings and queens and act accordingly. This will require education.

You see, cattle need minders. Criminals need police and vice-versa. The onus is on us to demonstrate that we are capable of comporting ourselves in a civilized manner or we can behave as irresponsible livestock and expect to be treated as livestock. There is a culling of the herd coming and they deserve what they get.

This is not to say those at the top have not behaved badly but we all, on all levels, violate each other rights and cause continual injury and ignorantly expect better treatment. "Do unto others..."

As far as origins, we debate facts as the truth is common to all "selves" and requires only recognition and acceptance. It requires no debate.

We have been tampered with. The indigenous life on Earth was criminally violated in an act that most intelligent beings would agree is atrocious. Creatures were made without sufficient wisdom and with a rampant ego that kept them from the higher states of consciousness and dimensions of higher frequency. One can claim this was a "bad" thing. I say the lessons learned and the experience we acquired in this dalliance with debauchery has been valuable without measure. We have explored all manner of reprehensible and criminal acts, behaviors and intents. The lesson has been learned and now it is time to act with the experience we have learned both as a people and individually.

It is the new paradigm.

Those who have been stewards of the gnosis that have a full reckoning of all of man's history have begun to reveal it slowly as we are able to safely process it, some faster the others it seems. These stewards have sometimes taken "horrible" and "evil" forms and in this way have been successful in turning away people who are not yet ready to know the truth. This is a well scripted and deliberate learning process and from my perspective, I would not want it any other way.

There are however people still caught up in the "good" versus "evil" or "us" versus "them" paradigm. We need to tone it down. There is no "Them". "Evil" is an essential element in the learning process. The more real we make "evil" the more useful it is in providing negative reinforcement.

We need to broaden our horizons and take more then a myopic view of our life experience.

Warm Regards,

Roger

nectars
22-08-2009, 12:39 PM
when one "transcends" it has an immediate knock-on effect on everything and everyone around them. There will be two paths a partner can take and it is up to the partner to choose with you the function of your collective course and lesson. The effect of your transformation will be noticed and more probably not fully understood. They may, however, treat your improved abilities as an ungrounded threat that they can either meet and surmount, leading to their own transcendence, or simply run in fear. i imagine that you already know the answer in your case and you are attempting to come to grips with it. Know that: If it is to be or not to be, will be determined by the best outcome for both of you. Do not be discouraged as appearances do not always betray what is occurring behind the scenes or in your partner's mind. Remember, the death of an ego is a traumatic event and it manifest itself, sometime, in curious and drastic ways.

Patience is needed. It took my wife 3 years to adjust and now we are closer to being one mind then we have ever been.

As far as the sexual implications. I do not wish to ruin the surprise.

Roage

Thank you for such a clear answer.

Your right, it is something which at present I'm trying to come to grips with the implications of, more so in regards to my kids/partner than of myself. In all honesty, I dont feel as though "I" am being given the option anymore. For the last month or so its more as though I'm being prompted in the direction but being allowed a certain time for preperation of the final step. It seems that when a final commitment and devotion to the decision itself is made, "I" will be to an extent sidelined with the final step being taken in and of itself.

Theres something "down there" holding me back from taking that step; I feel its perhaps time remove it.

Thanks again :)

relax
22-08-2009, 02:32 PM
Thanks Roger. Forgive me if this is on the site already, but can you outline some simple techniques to connect to the higher self and get rid of the ego? It seems difficult, assuming that 'internal monologue' is part of the ego, its a hard thing to keep quiet.

relax
22-08-2009, 03:50 PM
Also, Ive read about syncronicities in the past, but over the past month ive been seeing them ridiculously often, everytime I glance at the digital clock in the corner of my computer screen 14:44, 12:12, just about any combination of the same number 13:11 (11:11) and so on.
It seems its my higher self that kind of gives me this 'prompt', its completely without thought but randomly ill glance at it and everytime see this pattern. Is this a communication/indication by Ø that im kind of on the 'right path' or thinking the right things?

roage
22-08-2009, 06:18 PM
Also, Ive read about syncronicities in the past, but over the past month ive been seeing them ridiculously often, everytime I glance at the digital clock in the corner of my computer screen 14:44, 12:12, just about any combination of the same number 13:11 (11:11) and so on.
It seems its my higher self that kind of gives me this 'prompt', its completely without thought but randomly ill glance at it and everytime see this pattern. Is this a communication/indication by Ø that im kind of on the 'right path' or thinking the right things?

Your ability to now "notice" these numeric anomalies is an indicator that you have started across the threshold. It is overt notification that the self is now active in your experience. This is because you allowed it to be. Remember, it has to be voluntary. It is not logical or courteous to force anything on you.

It has started.

The chatter is not chatter. This is how you are educated to the truth. It happens as a flood and comes fast and hard. It will wear you out and keep going. It must break your ego's will to resist. It will win that battle as you have chosen to have the ego broken.

Listen to the chatter only after you make a deal with the self that forces what you say in your head to be the truth. You must trust the self without condition. When you do you will get the truth. We may have a hard time accepting or understanding the "chatter" but when we make a conscious effort to trust the self we get the truth like a flood.

I imagine you have already made this deal and you have simply dismissed what is going on as a distraction. It is not a distraction it is the pipeline.

Focus on what you are saying to yourself or more accurately what the self is exposing to your consciousness. The reason things are repeated over and over is that you are not recognizing the proper context or meaning of what you are being told. This dialog uses words and words are poor tools for communication. Ask for clarification. Split the elements up and take them individually. Many times the words being used are not properly understood by us because we do not have an accurate "ego" definition of what they really mean.

Hit the dictionary and define the words. All of them if you have to. Do not discount the feelings and imagery that appear in your head as those are more constructive forms of communication. Think back on the times in your life when you have seen these symbols and images before, what they meant, when you saw them or what you were thinking and doing at the time. There are threads of meaningful continuity that run through your entire existence. Hook them together. They form a continuous stream of logic.

Do not be ashamed to speak out loud. Go someplace where you won't appear like an idiot to others if need be. Eventually, you will not care what people think as the truth will spew from your mouth. Most will be afraid. Let them be afraid. The truth can be scary to the deluded.

You no doubt have a lot of loose ends to tie up. You must exorcise this "dark content" (Carl Yung) before you can connect directly with the self. The self is clearing out the debris. This "dark content" is comprised of unlearned and repressed lessons. You need to clear them out first.

This is a necessary part of the process. Embrace it and have courage. To thine own self be true. Be honest with the uncomfortable aspects of your past behavior and short-comings. They were all necessary to bring you to this moment.

If you feel yourself getting sleepy. Sleep. Some of the changes you will go through are too abrupt to employ while you are awake. You will sleep for a few minutes and when you wake up something about you will be different. "A literal reboot"

You may sneeze or cough. It is okay. The scenes of black bugs coming out of John's mouth in the movie the "Green Mile" are accurate and it can be exactly like that. You can't see the bugs but you can perceive them leaving you.

You are being modified and when it is done you will have a new set of perceptual tools.

Your mind will race 24-7 until you have resolved all the burdens.

Once your burdens are lifted you will feel lighter. That is "enlightenment".

It has nothing to do with luminescence in a visible sense. However we usually have a thick shell of crust that impedes the light within us to shine.

Flake the crust and you will shine.

Then you will experience a clarity of mind few have experienced.

I am excited and happy for you.

You are getting it.

Just go with it.

Roage

roage
22-08-2009, 09:46 PM
Theres something "down there" holding me back from taking that step; I feel its perhaps time remove it.


Here is one way that helps me decide a course of action. First, declare that you are testing the choices. Choose one direction without acting on it and look for positive or negative reinforcement in your daily experience. Then choose the other direction and do the same.

You should expect clear answers and the clues will be manifest in symbols, imagery and coincidence that you yourself understand.

Cheers

Roger

wakeuptime
23-08-2009, 05:44 PM
Thanks for this post, roage. I wanted to print it up today but now the links aren't working. Is anyone else having this problem? With all three, I get a message that the adddress is wrong. :confused: They worked yesterday....

roage
23-08-2009, 06:40 PM
Thanks for this post, roage. I wanted to print it up today but now the links aren't working. Is anyone else having this problem? With all three, I get a message that the adddress is wrong. :confused: They worked yesterday....

Let me test it. I know they have maintenance windows on Sundays and they are down from time to time. Also when the search bots go through they can be a heavy drag.

roage
23-08-2009, 06:44 PM
Thanks for this post, roage. I wanted to print it up today but now the links aren't working. Is anyone else having this problem? With all three, I get a message that the adddress is wrong. :confused: They worked yesterday....

It seems to be working for me at 11:43 AM -6:00 GMT

Let me know if you have any problems.

Roage

wakeuptime
24-08-2009, 06:22 PM
It seems to be working for me at 11:43 AM -6:00 GMT

Let me know if you have any problems.

Roage

Thanks, its working and I printed the cheat sheet. Will read the rest online. Funny how the right information seems to fall into your hands at just the right moment. Vibrational, I know. Still its wonderful.

roage
25-08-2009, 02:50 PM
Thanks, its working and I printed the cheat sheet. Will read the rest online. Funny how the right information seems to fall into your hands at just the right moment. Vibrational, I know. Still its wonderful.

Hi,

If you are able to employ the procedure outlined and described in the material then you will be able to gain an deeper understanding why luck and chance are fictions. However, do not fall for the "fate" perceptual trap. Our experience is individually and continually scripted as needed to provide the maximum eternal benefit. It may not, on its face appear so until one looks with new eyes.

Enjoy,

Roage

relax
25-08-2009, 04:53 PM
roage, I still dont have a grasp of this, id love some kind of simplified version. From what I understand you have to become sovereign via means of a contract - physical contract? what kind of contract? I feel despair not bieng able to grasp this but to me it seems devoid of any concise path, lots of ambiguous terms with no clear instruction, as in physical or mental action for me to take next, but im sure its just me and not the wording of the site.

swift44
25-08-2009, 08:46 PM
Hey Roage, how does god talk to you? From the things I've read on your site, to gain sovergnty you have to ask god to give it to you and know the 10 commandments and the "terms of contract" and then what happens?

deckard666
25-08-2009, 10:32 PM
Hey Roage, how does god talk to you? From the things I've read on your site, to gain sovergnty you have to ask god to give it to you and know the 10 commandments and the "terms of contract" and then what happens?

From the Divine Grace Study Guide (http://www.roage.com/main.asp?PageID=134)
God will speak to you through the words you speak to others and in the voice you use to think to yourself.

roage
26-08-2009, 12:07 AM
roage, I still dont have a grasp of this, id love some kind of simplified version. From what I understand you have to become sovereign via means of a contract - physical contract? what kind of contract? I feel despair not bieng able to grasp this but to me it seems devoid of any concise path, lots of ambiguous terms with no clear instruction, as in physical or mental action for me to take next, but im sure its just me and not the wording of the site.

I guess I had a stale version here out there I revised it:

The Law Of Contract

A. All real enforceable contracts must contain the following.(Enforceable means power will be used in its execution and the binding to terms)
1. An offer - One has to first solicit
2. An Acceptance - Another has to accept the offer
3. An Exchange of Consideration - One does something if another does something
4. A Meeting of the Minds - A contract must be between two minds. A piece of paper is only documentation and by itself is not a contract even though it may say that it is
B. Real enforcement of contracts are administered as follows:
1. All contracts are verbal
2. A Sovereign's word is their bond
3. A Sovereign has the unlimited right to contract
4. A Sovereign cannot be compelled to relinquish his rights but can, through confusion, be tricked into voluntarily relinquishing his rights or be enslaved
5. ALL CONTRACTS ARE VOLUNTARY! A man cannot be forced into a contract. A forced agreement will be ignored by God and no power will be marshaled to enforce the terms
6. ALL CONTRACTS ARE BUYER BEWARE! A man is responsible for knowing what they are getting himself into

This law applies to everyone all the time regardless if they are sovereign or not. Test it by breaking a promise.

swift44
26-08-2009, 12:19 AM
So god really isn't consciousness right? And if I ask god to appear he will if I'm ready?

woodelf
26-08-2009, 12:25 AM
you cannot petition the lord with prayer, said jim morrison. thats kinda what this contract stuff is.

and it takes a lot of serious hard work to get back to where we came from. no drummed up idea is the way, either. you'll know when you are a proponent of the correct way. fellow light beings will be all around, going, too. just mho.

roage
26-08-2009, 02:56 PM
So god really isn't consciousness right? And if I ask god to appear he will if I'm ready?

The truth is that the thing you call "me" is the same thing I call "me". "We" are one ("I" are one). This is "my" self-education and WE/I do this for our own benefit collectively.

"Appear" needs to be understood from the perspective that a thing operating outside of this framework cannot be detected by things operating within the framework.

We must use our tool that allows us this perception that is intuition or a connecting to the "self" and the collective mind without the interference of the material ego-persona.

Can we see what we cannot see or hear what we cannot hear? Our eyes and ears are not sufficient as they are simple mechanical and optical detectors.

However, to become sovereign is by contract that affords rights and carries with it responsibilities. As it is granted by contract one must have a meeting of the minds with the granting authority.

Please realize that the material presented is presented from the perspective that this thing men call "God" is external to us, as that has been the historical foundation that many of us operate under. In truth, we are one in the same but we cannot "meet" God until we permit ourselves to do so. These are contracts we make with our "selves".

The perceived separateness of our bodies and identities is an illusion.

roage
26-08-2009, 03:03 PM
you cannot petition the lord with prayer, said jim morrison. thats kinda what this contract stuff is.

and it takes a lot of serious hard work to get back to where we came from. no drummed up idea is the way, either. you'll know when you are a proponent of the correct way. fellow light beings will be all around, going, too. just mho.

"Drummed"

Your ego is showing and since you choose to show me yours then I will show you mine:

It is my humble opinion that it would be in your interest to actually try to understand what is presented before a dubious conclusion is rendered.

I love this game. Every day, without fail, people are introduced into my experience that are ready and able to transcend and I do not mean commit suicide or place themselves as an sacrificial offering to the Dionysian Cult.

I keep better counsel.

Cheers,

Roage

roage
26-08-2009, 03:09 PM
From the Divine Grace Study Guide (http://www.roage.com/main.asp?PageID=134)

Yeah, I knew you were getting it.

Cool huh?

nectars
26-08-2009, 07:30 PM
This law applies to everyone all the time regardless if they are sovereign or not. Test it by breaking a promise.

That includes a promise to ourselves, correct?

By making a decision to do or not do a thing and not following through with it we've broken a contract with ourselves and therefore God. I've been very aware of the consequenses of this for quite a while, I just hadn't considered it was an actual contract in the eyes of the Supreme "Godhead".

doH :rolleyes:

roage
26-08-2009, 08:11 PM
That includes a promise to ourselves, correct?

You got it!

Again, it is easier for others to follow on when they operate in a separated construct, that being a "Godhead" entity outside of themselves.

The true revelation will manifest after the perceptual cage is vacated this was done so the material is not initially confusing to them.

This is how I approached the process myself as I was a narcissist with heavy traditional religious influences. In the US that is primarily the make up of the largest segment of the population.

When in Rome...

Roage

roage
28-08-2009, 03:39 AM
In case you missed this one on the site. Here is a more comprehensive treatment for a broader audience:

Enlightenment Methodology (http://www.roage.com/main.asp?PageID=160)

woodelf
28-08-2009, 07:34 PM
no two people are alike, each of us have an agreement with life that is unlike any other. to live creatively is how one lives a spiritual life and by divine law we must give to life FIRST if we expect life to give anything in return.

when making a decision about something simply weigh both the benefits and the price. acting or not is on ourselves, not divine spirit.

creativity, bountifulness and gratitude go hand in hand and learning the lessons from our experiences is what brings us spiritual growth and wisdom.

truth is simple, no need for games. grail law is just another lower worlds composition :)

relax
28-08-2009, 09:54 PM
In case you missed this one on the site. Here is a more comprehensive treatment for a broader audience:

Enlightenment Methodology (http://www.roage.com/main.asp?PageID=160)

Thanks for that roage, although I dont see how its another approach, rather a down to earth introduction, with the same stuff at the end, which is making more sense every time I read it, yet I still believe it could be simplified and put in more tangible terms.

This is your mission should you choose to accept it, put the text written after the the title 'The Way Out is the Holy Grail' in as little words as possible and in as simple terms as you are aware. Not only may this help me, but if your purpose is to teach this then it will open up a whole lot more people to the material, which im sure you'll agree, would be brilliant.

Tia.

roage
28-08-2009, 11:52 PM
Thanks for that roage, although I dont see how its another approach, rather a down to earth introduction, with the same stuff at the end, which is making more sense every time I read it, yet I still believe it could be simplified and put in more tangible terms.

This is your mission should you choose to accept it, put the text written after the the title 'The Way Out is the Holy Grail' in as little words as possible and in as simple terms as you are aware. Not only may this help me, but if your purpose is to teach this then it will open up a whole lot more people to the material, which im sure you'll agree, would be brilliant.

Tia.

The thing about teaching this in person is that I merely speak the words I am led to speak and it is customized around the person seeking the information.

I liken it to on candle lighting another. However I have been able to present it successfully over the phone one-on-one.

The minimum presentation is the cheat sheet and it has been developed over time to first allow the seeker the courage to proceed and the order that it is presented is crucial to affording the ego the softest landing.

In truth the core is one page but it cannot be assimulated without first un-masking the bad assumptions we made.

I suppose I can try it. It is kinda like one is lead to the proper article on the site "by accident". There are many issues that cause us to fear and create confusion.

Oh well. So far there has been a small but steady stream of those that are able to rouse them selves from the slumber. Although it will be fun when we hit the critical mass threshold and the mass "switch on" snaps into place. I know it serves our collective interest to move such that it remains a smooth and comfortable process. Maximum benefit and the most constructive and logical course is the order of the day. All things work to good purpose.

Cheers

Roger

roage
28-08-2009, 11:59 PM
no two people are alike, each of us have an agreement with life that is unlike any other. to live creatively is how one lives a spiritual life and by divine law we must give to life FIRST if we expect life to give anything in return.

when making a decision about something simply weigh both the benefits and the price. acting or not is on ourselves, not divine spirit.

creativity, bountifulness and gratitude go hand in hand and learning the lessons from our experiences is what brings us spiritual growth and wisdom.

truth is simple, no need for games. grail law is just another lower worlds composition :)

It comes down to this: if we could change our experience would we choose to?

For many, they have become all to comfortable with suffering such that it is all they know. I am so glad they do not have the power to drag me down in it.

Typically when given the choice between hell and the unknown most will sadly choose hell as they have become creatures of habit.

That could not be your experience could it? Where does this idea come from where freedom is not free and we must suffer, fight and work for it? Seems to me that if I follow the the man holding a carrot on a stick then I should not expect to ever grasp it.

swift44
03-09-2009, 04:50 AM
I've read the article in your site called "The man in his cage," it said there is an age of concent for making a contract. (The part where the man had to wait for his son to reach a certain age before he could be put into the "barrier" ,incase I took it the wrong way). What would that age be?

miracles
03-09-2009, 08:37 AM
I guess I had a stale version here out there I revised it:

The Law Of Contract

A. All real enforceable contracts must contain the following.(Enforceable means power will be used in its execution and the binding to terms)
1. An offer - One has to first solicit
2. An Acceptance - Another has to accept the offer
3. An Exchange of Consideration - One does something if another does something
4. A Meeting of the Minds - A contract must be between two minds. A piece of paper is only documentation and by itself is not a contract even though it may say that it is
B. Real enforcement of contracts are administered as follows:
1. All contracts are verbal
2. A Sovereign's word is their bond
3. A Sovereign has the unlimited right to contract
4. A Sovereign cannot be compelled to relinquish his rights but can, through confusion, be tricked into voluntarily relinquishing his rights or be enslaved
5. ALL CONTRACTS ARE VOLUNTARY! A man cannot be forced into a contract. A forced agreement will be ignored by God and no power will be marshaled to enforce the terms
6. ALL CONTRACTS ARE BUYER BEWARE! A man is responsible for knowing what they are getting himself into

This law applies to everyone all the time regardless if they are sovereign or not. Test it by breaking a promise.


What are you getting yourself into?? This stuff looks to me like making contracts with potentially ungodly forces. If it was a Loving God, then whats with buyer beware clauses??????

swift44
03-09-2009, 08:46 AM
What are you getting yourself into?? This stuff looks to me like making contracts with potentially ungodly forces. If it was a Loving God, then whats with buyer beware clauses??????

Contracts can be made with people too not just god, buyer beware just means that you shouldn't fall for contracts like the patriot act:cool:

miracles
03-09-2009, 08:53 AM
Contracts can be made with people too not just god, buyer beware just means that you shouldn't fall for contracts like the patriot act:cool:

I know, but Im referring Im talking in the main about these "spiritual" contracts obvioulsy.

It appear ths the wakening involves a higher power, what is or what are those higher powers, and what are people expecting to be awakened to?

particlepopup
03-09-2009, 12:53 PM
Liked it alot, seems for me to be another one of those inbuilt awareness thingys that i read, kinda like i havent read it before but thats right,totally understand, i do that anyway and my feelings exactly, thanks for this.

roage
03-09-2009, 11:15 PM
This came in from a private message but I would like to address the questions in public so I asked the author of the questions for permission to do so.


6. Sovereignty will not be granted if one does not understand the law required to protect one’s sovereignty

Whats the law one must adhere to, to protect ones sovereignty? Sorry if I missed it. Also protect sovereignty from what?

From our own egos. We are the prime threat to our sovereignty as it cannot be taken but we can give it away.

# The Law Of Contract

1. All real enforceable contracts must contain the following.(Enforceable means power will be used in its execution and the binding to terms)
1. An offer - One has to first solicit
2. An Acceptance - Another has to accept the offer
3. An Exchange of Consideration - One does something if another does something
4. A Meeting of the Minds - A contract must be between two minds. A piece of paper is only documentation and by itself is not a contract even though it may say that it is
2. Real enforcement of contracts are administered as follows:
1. All contracts are verbal
2. A Sovereign's word is their bond
3. A Sovereign has the unlimited right to contract
4. A Sovereign cannot be compelled to relinquish his rights but can, through confusion, be tricked into voluntarily relinquishing his rights or be enslaved

Can you expand on this? (4)

If a sovereign does not put in place the Holy Grail contract then they should expect no divine grace or protection. They are as vulnerable as any other man. Power is expressed in our behalf and we cannot have our rights forcibly stripped from us from by another man or woman. This has been well understood for a long time so it became necessary to trick people into giving away their rights. Religion, Science, Law Literature etc. have all conspired to give us a false sense of reality where we believe in luck and even worse: we falsely believe that the “powerful” can violate us against our will through fear and intimidation. The curious thing is that most people who are currently in jail are there because they volunteered. They just do not understand how they “volunteered”.

5. ALL CONTRACTS ARE VOLUNTARY! A man cannot be forced into a contract. A forced agreement will be ignored by God and no power will be marshaled to enforce the terms
6. ALL CONTRACTS ARE BUYER BEWARE! A man is responsible for knowing what they are getting himself into



# Other Law

1. The created is never more powerful than its creator
2. Ignorance of the real law is no excuse
3. Those who are not in possession of all their faculties or have turned away from God are under real law to be judged incompetent and subject to the prevailing authority.

What do you mean in possession of their faculties? And you could you give some real world examples of this? (3)

The Atheists are going to hate this but under real law if you do not believe in the one true living God then you become the ward of the prevailing authority. This is why God is not a well-promoted institution in communist countries. It is not a matter of freedom of religion, it is they know how power works here and a population of people without an established relationship with this thing we call God cannot be dominated. One who is mentally challenged cannot accept responsibility and therefore cannot enter into contract. As all power is a function of contract they are left at the mercy of others who are responsible for them. This primary requisite was used in law to deprive indigenous peoples of "their" lands. It was determined that a people that did not believe in the one true living God (I’m not talking about religion here folks) could not be sovereign and therefore could not have or hold their lands against another sovereign (the Pope, See Papus Bull).

# Holy Grail – When the Supreme Authority notifies the man or woman seeking their sovereignty they can make contract with this Authority by speaking the following: “I will trust you without condition if you remove from me my ability to create a victim.”

So you cannot have sovereignty until you're granted permission (audible? in thought?) If so, I have a few further questions (oh shit).

Man is the trickster and deceiver. God is not. Man would try to compel another to the terms of a contract the other man could not reasonably discern or discover. Only man would conceal the existence of a contract or exploit the other party’s ignorance. God does not operate like that. One must be notified to be sovereign. That means one must “realize the Truth”. “Realize” meaning made consciously “real”, “Truth” meaning God. Yes you will have the “oh sh_t” moment or even more accurately: “holy sh_t!” This is the reason finding your own individual truth is hogwash. There is only one Truth. God would not permit you to walk around thinking that you are sovereign when you are not. Let me tell you this: when it happens it will be the most profound thing you will experience. You will have no doubt that God is real. Ask Icke, he knows. I watched a short video describing his experience and it was similar to my experience.

I should have full understanding after this and hopefully for you wouldn't need to ask any more questions regarding other pages.

Apart from this!

Describe the differences that have manifested in your life since, I mean does your pattern of thought change. attitudes etc.

I can if I want to or if it serves a purpose know why I do everything in my life or know why things happen in my life. I however, like surprises so I do not try to know anymore. I can now apply law to any instance and it shows me why things are the way they are.

I cannot be harmed by trickery or deception because I have new eyes to cut through the malarkey.

I simply do what I want now and what I want is now what I need. I now always get what I need and it is always what I want.

I will tell you I do not miss the @__holes.

All people I encounter are vital to my experience and I treat every encounter such that I can learn what they teach. Many do not realize that they have been recruited in that capacity. I am able for forgive the confused as they are no longer “evil”. I was confused and I can fully empathize with them.

Are you privy to any enhanced extra sensory abilities or knowledge or anything apart from feeling amazing and content with life etc?

Yes, to exist as a sovereign requires that one pierces the veil of deception and confusion. It requires a modification of perception. To do correctly without deliberation or forethought makes life easier. As a connection with the group mind and group self permits one access to knowledge and perception common to all I can know things I have no “reasonable” means of knowing. I can “divine” situations and answers to questions that form the immediate needs for life lessons I am currently engaged in. I cannot read minds as we all enjoy privacy if we so choose. I am not special. These tools are available to anyone who earnestly employs the material.

Thanks

roage
03-09-2009, 11:17 PM
Contracts can be made with people too not just god, buyer beware just means that you shouldn't fall for contracts like the patriot act:cool:

Did you notice how all the executive orders apply to the "person entity" and not a man, woman or people?

roage
03-09-2009, 11:30 PM
I know, but Im referring Im talking in the main about these "spiritual" contracts obvioulsy.

It appear ths the wakening involves a higher power, what is or what are those higher powers, and what are people expecting to be awakened to?

Hi, This was a conundrum I wrestled with for a long time. It delayed my foray into the "spiritual" realm because I myself could not trust what I could not see.

The answer came when I decided that there must be a supreme being, or an overarching being that has control over all subordinate elements. This is where our appeals for knowledge and assistance should be directed. If we settle for the less powerful then we deserve what we get as it is a violation of rule #1.

As human failings are the purview of Rex Mundi or Jehovah in jealousy and wrath the perfection of the supreme power does not permit him/her to violate a sacred trust. When we trust this supreme being without condition then we can expect just and loving treatment.

Try it you will like it.

Know that you address only the most high and all others will be made to comply. Omnipotent means omnipotent. If you experience is not fun and easy then you have hooked your wagon to the wrong horse.

Cheers,

Roage

roage
03-09-2009, 11:36 PM
Liked it alot, seems for me to be another one of those inbuilt awareness thingys that i read, kinda like i havent read it before but thats right,totally understand, i do that anyway and my feelings exactly, thanks for this.

I cannot take any credit for the material. It is free to all and available to all who choose a different road. The fact that people find wisdom on the pages is less important than the people choosing to place themselves in the position to see in the first place.

We need more people with the courage to simply see and face what seems scary but actually is quite wonderful.

Seek and you shall find...

I am just happy to be here. :)

God! I love this game!

Cheers,

Roage

miracles
04-09-2009, 12:30 AM
Hi, This was a conundrum I wrestled with for a long time. It delayed my foray into the "spiritual" realm because I myself could not trust what I could not see.

The answer came when I decided that there must be a supreme being, or an overarching being that has control over all subordinate elements. This is where our appeals for knowledge and assistance should be directed. If we settle for the less powerful then we deserve what we get as it is a violation of rule #1.

As human failings are the purview of Rex Mundi or Jehovah in jealousy and wrath the perfection of the supreme power does not permit him/her to violate a sacred trust. When we trust this supreme being without condition then we can expect just and loving treatment.

Try it you will like it.

Know that you address only the most high and all others will be made to comply. Omnipotent means omnipotent. If you experience is not fun and easy then you have hooked your wagon to the wrong horse.

Cheers,

Roage

Hi Roage

Well satan tried to exalt himself over the most high and was cast down to earth, he now rules over this realm, one needs to be carfeul that they are not in contact with "the counterfeit most high". I would seriously recommend NO ONE makes contracts with any spiritual entity unless they go through the blood of the Lord Jesus Christ first.

roage
04-09-2009, 03:07 AM
Hi Roage

Well satan tried to exalt himself over the most high and was cast down to earth, he now rules over this realm, one needs to be carfeul that they are not in contact with "the counterfeit most high". I would seriously recommend NO ONE makes contracts with any spiritual entity unless they go through the blood of the Lord Jesus Christ first.

All I can tell you is that you will know when you find the genuine article.

I do not submit to anything other then the one true living God. God would not preface himself with "Lord" but I know what you mean.

Jesus is the "image" of God. I did not know what it meant until God showed me. Funny thing is many folks are confused about that. Too bad too we could have done better, but life is a lesson.

If you take a picture of me is it me?

It violates rule #1

Do not look at the trick of light and think it is all real. Only God is real.

It is OK it is what kept me from finding God for 20 years. You'll get it if you keep trying.

Religion from latin "religio" meaning to "tie or bind"

When you figure out what they (The Religions) are trying to keep you from finding out then things will become humorously clear.

It is a nuanced game and was well worth experiencing.

It is a narrow path.

Keep going but you will have to think in new ways if you expect to arrive at a destination few have journeyed to.

It is the destination, not the journey. It is a cleaver marketing scheme that makes us enjoy yearning and remain satisfied with suffering.

Know differently.

Cheers,

Roage

P.S. Satan is a fiction, an invention of those who would use it to scare you into submission and compliance. Obedience is its own painful lesson. God requires no obedience as God controls everything. We just think we posses potent free will. That too is an illusion. God requires only observation and what the flesh robot does is meaningful only to the astute observer. If you want to remain within the law then one need only kill their ego and change their mind. The religious hierarchy are the folks who want you to obey. Obey those who have put themselves between you and God, for the religious men are sheep. Why would God have any need to talk to the slave. God talks only to the master.

Sovereignty is the key to establishing a dialog with God.

Do or Do Not there is no gray area.

Cheers,

Roage

miracles
04-09-2009, 08:15 AM
All I can tell you is that you will know when you find the genuine article.

I do not submit to anything other then the one true living God. God would not preface himself with "Lord" but I know what you mean.

Jesus is the "image" of God. I did not know what it meant until God showed me. Funny thing is many folks are confused about that. Too bad too we could have done better, but life is a lesson.

If you take a picture of me is it me?

It violates rule #1

Do not look at the trick of light and think it is all real. Only God is real.

It is OK it is what kept me from finding God for 20 years. You'll get it if you keep trying.

Religion from latin "religio" meaning to "tie or bind"

When you figure out what they (The Religions) are trying to keep you from finding out then things will become humorously clear.

It is a nuanced game and was well worth experiencing.

It is a narrow path.

Keep going but you will have to think in new ways if you expect to arrive at a destination few have journeyed to.

It is the destination, not the journey. It is a cleaver marketing scheme that makes us enjoy yearning and remain satisfied with suffering.

Know differently.

Cheers,

Roage

P.S. Satan is a fiction, an invention of those who would use it to scare you into submission and compliance. Obedience is its own painful lesson. God requires no obedience as God controls everything. We just think we posses potent free will. That too is an illusion. God requires only observation and what the flesh robot does is meaningful only to the astute observer. If you want to remain within the law then one need only kill their ego and change their mind. The religious hierarchy are the folks who want you to obey. Obey those who have put themselves between you and God, for the religious men are sheep. Why would God have any need to talk to the slave. God talks only to the master.

Sovereignty is the key to establishing a dialog with God.

Do or Do Not there is no gray area.

Cheers,

Roage
A little presumptious of you to assume I have not already found what I sought, never the less, I thank you for your coments, however what is the need for a contract? This sounds rather more binding than religion persay, also what is the destination? And what is the "genuine article"

To say we must not be obediant to the laws God has set in place then state we need to make a contract is contradictory. We are all obediant to the law of gravity for example, Blessing and or cursing follow our obedience or disobedience to the laws set in place. We are not sovereign and we are not master. Only God is sovereign,

Re sheep... and yet if we follow your advise to go into this contract and read the books recomended are we not merely sheep following in differnt direction? Are we not all Gods sheep? And would He not leave 99 behind to find the one that had gone astray. We are not the shepard. The sheep ananolgy has been misapropriated in my opinion.

God resists the proud and exhaults the humble. A man claiming to be a master is not humble. Master of what? His own destiny? Maybe so, in which case what need then of God??

Satans greatest victory is to have you believe he is a fiction.

Repentance confession and belief unto salvation through Christ is the only way to having a dialogue with the Sovereign Almighty God.

I have found a lot of freedom in my religion, perfect religion is to help those worse off than yourself, however the real freedom comes with tolerance, live and let live, I dont have a problem with people having their own beliefs and I like to understand what the those beliefs are and what is at their root, however when those beliefs begin to encroach upon my beliefs thats when I have an issue. As I suppose everyone would. I for one am a bond slave to Christ.

roage
04-09-2009, 05:53 PM
A little presumptious of you to assume I have not already found what I sought, never the less, I thank you for your coments, however what is the need for a contract? This sounds rather more binding than religion persay, also what is the destination? And what is the "genuine article"

Please do not mistake my statement for presumption. Forgive me if I “appear” so. I speak and write only as I am led.

When I found myself face-to-face with the most awesome entity I have ever encountered and terrifying, I might add, in its absolute power over every particle and force in this Universe and beyond, I realized that I was being given what I asked for: My Sovereignty. I then, in an instant, realized that by myself, in the state I was in, could not, by my own will, as the flesh is weak, protect myself from my own thoughts and actions such that I could comport myself without destroying myself. That being now that I was given ownership and responsibility. In an instant the words flowed from my mouth: “I will trust you without condition if you remove from me my ability to violate the law”. That is the contract. It is a covenant I have with God. If this being was not God then it would not have been enforced as it would have constituted a usurpation of power of the Supreme Authority. Every aspect of my life and character was impacted at that point in a demonstrable and tangible way, which had a knock-on impact on everyone I encountered, including you. You must ask yourself what prompted you to discover this thread or read on? Was it a sense of duty to protect people from falling into a carefully constructed trap that I have laid for the helpless? Hmmmm? When did it fall on you to do this?

It is not presumption to recognize one that speaks from the old paradigm. In fact, I can spot a sovereign, usually in one or two sentences. Never mind the fact that I have access to “the mainframe” which notifies me continually on what I should do. After the first year my second-guessing and my timid requirement for further proofs, that I indeed enjoyed divine grace, had waned as it was demonstrated without fail continually. Now I just relax and enjoy the show. However the movie is more enjoyable when more characters jump off the screen into the seats beside me.

To say we must not be obediant to the laws God has set in place then state we need to make a contract is contradictory. We are all obediant to the law of gravity for example, Blessing and or cursing follow our obedience or disobedience to the laws set in place. We are not sovereign and we are not master. Only God is sovereign,

You misunderstood the reference to master. At which point did you conclude I advocate lawlessness? How much of the material did you even read? My last moving violation occurred in 1987. I have never been arrested. Granted that is not any reasonable measure of a man but I comport myself such that I do not create a victim. I may yell and scream calling people around me “idiots” but have I injured them to cause them to think in new directions? Do I not enjoy that freedom? I am a man who has simply been granted responsibility and ownership of the small-individuated facet of the singular consciousness. Under the correct context you are correct when saying only God is sovereign. However, it is wise for one to know what one is, where they find themselves and why they exist. If they do not know these answers then it is unwise to “do” without knowing.


Re sheep... and yet if we follow your advise to go into this contract and read the books recomended are we not merely sheep following in differnt direction? Are we not all Gods sheep? And would He not leave 99 behind to find the one that had gone astray. We are not the shepard. The sheep ananolgy has been misapropriated in my opinion.

Opinions are wonderful aren’t they? Do only as you’re led I say trust and follow no man, book, concept or idea. Consult God, he/she has it in his/her power to educate all. Although it serves a purpose that we choose not to listen and that forms the basis of our observational education and proves, for our consideration, the cause and consequence of these events that transpire.

God resists the proud and exhaults the humble. A man claiming to be a master is not humble. Master of what? His own destiny? Maybe so, in which case what need then of God??

You put words in my mouth and for that you sustain consequences. You mistake confidence and certainty for a lack of humility. I do only as I am led. Now, why am I led to do this again?

Satans greatest victory is to have you believe he is a fiction.

Show me a man that fears Satan and I will show you a man that cannot know God.

Repentance confession and belief unto salvation through Christ is the only way to having a dialogue with the Sovereign Almighty God.

I knew from the very start with whom I was conversing. You were led here for a perfectly good reason and don’t be confused: it was not to convert me or save me. If your method were indeed valid then man would not be in the position he finds himself. I have often found that the most ardent proponents of a particular flavor of religion have rarely read their magic book cover-to-cover. They construct the truth within their own minds then raid the country inflicting violence on others that cannot know their deluded conclusions.

I have found a lot of freedom in my religion, perfect religion is to help those worse off than yourself, however the real freedom comes with tolerance, live and let live, I dont have a problem with people having their own beliefs and I like to understand what the those beliefs are and what is at their root, however when those beliefs begin to encroach upon my beliefs thats when I have an issue. As I suppose everyone would. I for one am a bond slave to Christ.

Very noble of you and at which point did I encroach on you by merely showing you a door to your enslavement from which you could choose to extricate yourself? One has no business helping others until they learn how to help themselves. If we all help ourselves then there would not be an issue. For a man to take on a task that he is not equipped to complete with power outside of his ability to control is an recipe for educational suffering. Doubly, a man who judges another beneath him sews contempt and distrust, which inevitably leads to conflict. Again, I am not here to help anyone. I merely proclaim though my own experience the means by which one can help him or herself.

You have served wonderfully as the Devil’s advocate and for that you will be rewarded.

I want to thank-you for proving my point as I have concluded that you are not yet ready to awaken but you have, no doubt, been instrumental in changing people’s minds. You bring out the same old tired process that people are quite frankly fed-up with as they are tired of people charging through their land killing, raping, being bound wholly to a book they do not understand, in the name of a God they cannot know and calling it “righteousness”. It is time we learned the lesson of history. We cannot keep placing our hands on the red hot stove over-and-over and expecting different results.

I have shown you the door. I assure you if you actually are able to do what is described then you will see as I see. You can always go back in the cage if you choose to. I will say that none who have left the cage have wanted to return.

It is not forced, but you will not be permitted to glimpse outside until you put away your fear and cross the threshold. There is no damnation as if it were more than our own egos keeping us from leaving the cage then God would say otherwise. In the cage, Ego is king and that is exactly where the Ego wants us as it is only in the cage where it has power. Kill the Ego and know thy Self and one will never look back.

I risked eternal damnation of my soul to find God and that is something that few religious sheep could ever muster the courage to attain. Call it pompous if you will but to argue from within the cage against a man who is outside of the cage is infuriating to the man inside and humorous to the man without.

I will make contract with you. You honestly employ the procedure and after you are transformed through your personal audience with the one true living God then you come to me and I will return to the cage with you if you so choose. I will be of service until you succeed. I will answer all your questions and help any way I am led. Until then we will disagree. That is OK, I love you and you were forgiven before you came here. Can you forgive me?

God! I love this game!

Warm Regards,

Roage

Here is an article that helps discuss, in parable, some of the points discussed here:

The Man In His Cage (http://www.roage.com/main.asp?PageID=133)

roage
04-09-2009, 06:21 PM
Please let us confine the discussion away from religious topics as that is not a constructive use of our time and it often leads to hurt feelings.

That said, we each have been given the right to construct any entity which serves as a tool for our own individual learning experience. I trust each has within them the power to manifest that which they need subsequent to establishing a tangible and constructive dialog with this thing men call "God".

My purpose is only to help those seeking and willing to discover a way out of the fun house using one method by which they can place themselves in the position to begin this dialog.

What they choose to do after is between them and this thing men call "God" as I, quite frankly, have not the power, will or right to affect anything in another man or woman's individual experience against their will.

You will not receive from me judgment or coercion and I value all people I encounter. It is all good, especially when we realize that it is just an illusory educational game where we take only what we need and want from it.

Above all we must remember that the objective is to have fun. I can look around and see that there are many that are taking the game all too seriously and have a deep longing for the fun of life to return. Many forget soon after they are born that it is within themselves to choose and know differently.

Come on folks it can be fun again. The house of house of horrors ride is only exciting for a little while and after centuries, can we not choose something else?

I can't help but think I am not alone here.

If a few thousand see as I see then this world would change in the most dramatic way where our lives would truly be fun again.

Roage

roage
04-09-2009, 06:59 PM
I've read the article in your site called "The man in his cage," it said there is an age of concent for making a contract. (The part where the man had to wait for his son to reach a certain age before he could be put into the "barrier" ,incase I took it the wrong way). What would that age be?

It is not a fixed age. It is different for everyone. However, it usually occurs before one's 15th birthday, some earlier, some later. It depends on the man or woman.

You remember when things went weird for you after you put away your toys and looked toward adulthood. Many can identify a single day or event when their Universe changed.

We call that tumultuous time "puberty" or "just being a teenager", but in truth much of the strain is caused when the training wheels are removed and we are allowed to fall over until we get on on even keel.

There is another period around age 25 when we get tired of pushing the boundaries of the more rigid aspects of the Universe and settle into a more "safe" attitude. Some postpones this transition and it usually leads to a rock star life where one drowns in their own vomit.

There are still cultures that understand and honor these transitions. For instance the Mitzvahs, different for boys and girls.

It makes a profound difference in the quality of a boys or girls character when they go through these phases with full knowledge of what to expect and the responsibility that is expected of them.

We could save our young much misery if we choose to treat these transitions with the respect they deserve. They will occur regardless and we can either go through them with full knowledge or in complete ignorance. Either way, we will go.

It has become an all too frequent tragedy where a young man or woman ends their lives in ignorance because no one was around to teach them the laws governing their experience. These tragedies themselves form the basis of a valuable lesson in that we can see first-hand that ignoring these rules have a demonstrable and predictable negative impact on our society.

One would hope that we have learned our lesson by now but "hope" is a truly impotent word without action.

There are so few that recognize and teach the young the importance of these "rites of passage" and this absence has had a predictable and devastating effect on our mental and emotional well being, as a society and as individuals.

We should "know differently".

Does that help?

roage
04-09-2009, 07:12 PM
Liked it alot, seems for me to be another one of those inbuilt awareness thingys that i read, kinda like i havent read it before but thats right,totally understand, i do that anyway and my feelings exactly, thanks for this.

Seeing something are you? :D

I think it is fun to watch others command their experience to bring them the answers they demand.

I take no credit for the fact that you are in a place where you can learn.

Now for the question: Am I the teacher or the student?

particlepopup
04-09-2009, 08:36 PM
Seeing something are you? :D

I think it is fun to watch others command their experience to bring them the answers they demand.

I take no credit for the fact that you are in a place where you can learn.

Now for the question: Am I the teacher or the student?

Sometimes i feel i see all, sometimes naught, but always a connection to synchronistic events and that is such fun, that helps me to trust in everything that happens happens, nothing really bad happens to me anymore, (not that im complaining). One confusion of mine is i cant make up my mind if god is a seperate entity or just the higher concious evolvement that we strive to join back to as one, and then sometimes i feel they are both, still learning.:) My guess you are both.

miracles
05-09-2009, 01:36 AM
You have served wonderfully as the Devil’s advocate and for that you will be rewarded.

I want to thank-you for proving my point as I have concluded that you are not yet ready to awaken but you have, no doubt, been instrumental in changing people’s minds. You bring out the same old tired process that people are quite frankly fed-up with as they are tired of people charging through their land killing, raping, being bound wholly to a book they do not understand, in the name of a God they cannot know and calling it “righteousness”. It is time we learned the lesson of history. We cannot keep placing our hands on the red hot stove over-and-over and expecting different results.

I have shown you the door. I assure you if you actually are able to do what is described then you will see as I see. You can always go back in the cage if you choose to. I will say that none who have left the cage have wanted to return.

It is not forced, but you will not be permitted to glimpse outside until you put away your fear and cross the threshold. There is no damnation as if it were more than our own egos keeping us from leaving the cage then God would say otherwise. In the cage, Ego is king and that is exactly where the Ego wants us as it is only in the cage where it has power. Kill the Ego and know thy Self and one will never look back.

I risked eternal damnation of my soul to find God and that is something that few religious sheep could ever muster the courage to attain. Call it pompous if you will but to argue from within the cage against a man who is outside of the cage is infuriating to the man inside and humorous to the man without.

I will make contract with you. You honestly employ the procedure and after you are transformed through your personal audience with the one true living God then you come to me and I will return to the cage with you if you so choose. I will be of service until you succeed. I will answer all your questions and help any way I am led. Until then we will disagree. That is OK, I love you and you were forgiven before you came here. Can you forgive me?

God! I love this game!

Warm Regards,

Roage

Here is an article that helps discuss, in parable, some of the points discussed here:

The Man In His Cage (http://www.roage.com/main.asp?PageID=133)

I have no cause to forgive you, you have made no offense against me, I have said my piece. The reaction to it was once again very condescending, never the less I bid you good day and all the best.

PS you cant tell people not to discuss their views (even if you deem them to be religious) your views are very strongly held personal religous beliefs. When God is discussed, religion is too. The bible is the word of God, it's not just a book.

Any way, I will leave you people to the awakening. I was awakened to the truth 22 years ago.

God is Good.

All I will say from here is. Be careful who you listen to people.

God bless you all.

PS. I dont fear satan, I fear God. This is the beginning of wisdom.

DONT MAKE CONTRACTS WITH SPIRITUAL ENTITIES

swift44
05-09-2009, 01:42 AM
Ok, through reading many of the articles on your site about waking up, to gain sovereignty one needs do the following: Know the law of contract, trust god without condition, operate less in the ego, ask god for sovereignty, god will speak to you in your mind or through an epiphany when he feels that you are ready, make a contract with god by offering, “I will trust you without condition if you remove from me my ability to violate the law”, sovereignty will be granted and you will know that it happened. Did I mess up? If so where?

roage
05-09-2009, 04:05 AM
DONT MAKE CONTRACTS WITH SPIRITUAL ENTITIES
A pact, a contract or a covenant are all the same. Covenant hmmmm. Now where have I heard that before?

Farewell and God be with you.

Roage

roage
05-09-2009, 04:22 AM
Ok, through reading many of the articles on your site about waking up, to gain sovereignty one needs do the following: Know the law of contract, trust god without condition, operate less in the ego, ask god for sovereignty, god will speak to you in your mind or through an epiphany when he feels that you are ready, make a contract with god by offering, “I will trust you without condition if you remove from me my ability to violate the law”, sovereignty will be granted and you will know that it happened. Did I mess up? If so where?

Pretty good so far you need to realize what you will be giving up and that is you will not be permitted to create a victim. In the movie "Kingdom of Heaven" one of the terms was a knight must tell the truth even when it means his death.

Don't worry nothing bad can come from telling the truth.

Now, I suggest you simply find someplace where you can be completely alone, preferably in nature. Tell God out loud that you are ready. If God determines that in your heart you are ready then something very odd will begin happening. In fact it is already happening. Very few are able to peruse the site and glean from it what you now know. What is feeding you this information? Did you not realize that this has been happening all your life? Can you remember a time where this thing man calls God was not there? When were you not being taught a good lesson and has not everything to this point worked to make you what you are now? It will wash over you like warm water and you may cry. I did, and so have the others who have gone before you.

Do not feel bad if it does not happen right away God must know that you want it. It is awesome and the responsibility to maintain that trust will be tested. It is OK you, get a few mulligans. God is just and fair and it is a learning experience.

The truth is you are already very nearly there you just need to "realize" it. Ask God. It must be spoken and audible. Remember, thinking it does not make it verbal.

Take your time, it is really not up to you anyway. It is all in God's hands. It always was....

roage
05-09-2009, 04:35 AM
Ok, through reading many of the articles on your site about waking up, to gain sovereignty one needs do the following: Know the law of contract, trust god without condition, operate less in the ego, ask god for sovereignty, god will speak to you in your mind or through an epiphany when he feels that you are ready, make a contract with god by offering, “I will trust you without condition if you remove from me my ability to violate the law”, sovereignty will be granted and you will know that it happened. Did I mess up? If so where?

Pretty good so far you need to realize what you will be giving up and that is you will not be permitted to create a victim. In the movie "Kingdom of Heaven" one of the terms was a knight must tell the truth even when it means his death.

Don't worry nothing bad can come from telling the truth.

Now, I suggest you simply find someplace where you can be completely alone, preferably in nature. Tell God out loud that you are ready. If God determines that in your heart you are ready then something very odd will begin happening. In fact it is already happening. Very few are able to peruse the site and glean from it what you now know. What is feeding you this information? Did you not realize that this has been happening all your life? Can you remember a time where this thing man calls God was not there? When were you not being taught a good lesson and has not everything to this point worked to make you what you are now? It will wash over you like warm water and you may cry. I did, and so have the others who have gone before you.

Do not feel bad if it does not happen right away God must know that you want it. It is awesome and the responsibility to maintain that trust will be tested. It is OK you, get a few mulligans. God is just and fair and it is a learning experience.

The truth is you are already very nearly there you just need to "realize" it. Ask God. It must be spoken and audible. Remember, thinking it does not make it verbal.

Take your time, it is really not up to you anyway. It is all in God's hands. It always was....

nectars
05-09-2009, 06:07 AM
PS. I dont fear satan, I fear God. This is the beginning of wisdom.

DONT MAKE CONTRACTS WITH SPIRITUAL ENTITIES

If God is the creator, and hence made you in the "Image and Likeness of God" then isn't it hypocrytical to project ego vanitites ono such an entity? Satan doesn't exist, the belief in an "entity" called satan is rediculous, though the Satanic(violence) incited by the Luciferic(distortion of Truth) are very powerful energy fields, they are not the opposite of God, they are the absence of Truth which serves as a spiritual trap for the unwary.

Pretty good so far you need to realize what you will be giving up and that is you will not be permitted to create a victim. In the movie "Kingdom of Heaven" one of the terms was a knight must tell the truth even when it means his death.

Integrity can be a tough one to follow, as can be seen i societies knee-jerk reaction to politicians making the right choices even at the cost of their careers. "Truth will out" I believe the saying is.

Don't worry nothing bad can come from telling the truth.

Now, I suggest you simply find someplace where you can be completely alone, preferably in nature. Tell God out loud that you are ready. If God determines that in your heart you are ready then something very odd will begin happening. In fact it is already happening. Very few are able to peruse the site and glean from it what you now know. What is feeding you this information? Did you not realize that this has been happening all your life? Can you remember a time where this thing man calls God was not there? When were you not being taught a good lesson and has not everything to this point worked to make you what you are now? It will wash over you like warm water and you may cry. I did, and so have the others who have gone before you.

Do not feel bad if it does not happen right away God must know that you want it. It is awesome and the responsibility to maintain that trust will be tested. It is OK you, get a few mulligans. God is just and fair and it is a learning experience.

The truth is you are already very nearly there you just need to "realize" it. Ask God. It must be spoken and audible. Remember, thinking it does not make it verbal.

Take your time, it is really not up to you anyway. It is all in God's hands. It always was....

It can be overwhelming. A scheduled time for commitment and re-devotion is required in my case, which startes this coming morning, yet the "commitments" that should be held to God are first nature. Anything else is an illusionay involvement in a situation beyond my control.

miracles
05-09-2009, 08:58 AM
If God is the creator, and hence made you in the "Image and Likeness of God" then isn't it hypocrytical to project ego vanitites ono such an entity? Satan doesn't exist, the belief in an "entity" called satan is rediculous, though the Satanic(violence) incited by the Luciferic(distortion of Truth) are very powerful energy fields, they are not the opposite of God, they are the absence of Truth which serves as a spiritual trap for the unwary.
.

I dont agree.

nectars
05-09-2009, 10:13 AM
I dont agree.

Few do. Either way, I wish you well.

miracles
05-09-2009, 11:21 AM
Few do. Either way, I wish you well.
Like wise :)

roage
05-09-2009, 05:28 PM
Ever wonder what transcendent nut-jobs like me are reading?

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1438242794/ref=cm_cr_rev_prod_img

roage
05-09-2009, 05:36 PM
Sometimes i feel i see all, sometimes naught, but always a connection to synchronistic events and that is such fun, that helps me to trust in everything that happens happens, nothing really bad happens to me anymore, (not that im complaining). One confusion of mine is i cant make up my mind if god is a seperate entity or just the higher concious evolvement that we strive to join back to as one, and then sometimes i feel they are both, still learning.:) My guess you are both.

Our bodies our egos are physical facets in the universe that lend the appearance of separateness. It is an appearance only. What looks out of your eyes that you call "me" is the same thing that looks out of my eyes that I call "me". It provides a singular entity the means to gather experienced at a mind-boggling rate. At some point what was learned will be judged in its totality as logical, useful and constructive or illogical, useless and destructive.

We do not get to take our egos with us. Unfortunately that is all that many of us cultivate. I did. I am not special.

roage
05-09-2009, 05:57 PM
If God is the creator, and hence made you in the "Image and Likeness of God" then isn't it hypocrytical to project ego vanitites ono such an entity? Satan doesn't exist, the belief in an "entity" called satan is rediculous, though the Satanic(violence) incited by the Luciferic(distortion of Truth) are very powerful energy fields, they are not the opposite of God, they are the absence of Truth which serves as a spiritual trap for the unwary.


Indeed, one must employ logic. God is perfect; therefore logical. What does God need with self adulation, worship and petty human characteristics? Is God not God after all?


Integrity can be a tough one to follow, as can be seen i societies knee-jerk reaction to politicians making the right choices even at the cost of their careers. "Truth will out" I believe the saying is.

The cheat sheet was developed over a three year period with several mis-fires. It is still not perfect, obviously. I do not expect that simple words will bring a man face-to-face with the divine. What it attempts to do is to first provide clues that what a man or woman perceives around them is not as serious as they are taught to believe. Being practice allows one to overcome fear and explore new ways at looking at things. As Frank Herbert so concretely put it "Fear is the mind killer".

If we allow the idea that other men have power over us against our will then we will be timid, we will fear death, fear pain, fear suffering and we will behave such that we avoid it. This is a primary tool of the manipulators. Our fear is used against us.

What is the worst that can happen to me? I could be tortured to death over a long period and then killed. BONUS!

Death is not the end and a loving God would not reward a life of hell with an eternity of hell.

A confused man would, however...

As far as commitments, watch how the universe will be re-organized to provide time to spend on yourself. This thing man calls God knows firstly that we, like no other time, HAVE NOTHING BETTER TO DO! :D



It can be overwhelming. A scheduled time for commitment and re-devotion is required in my case, which startes this coming morning, yet the "commitments" that should be held to God are first nature. Anything else is an illusionay involvement in a situation beyond my control.

deckard666
05-09-2009, 08:08 PM
Ever wonder what transcendent nut-jobs like me are reading?

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1438242794/ref=cm_cr_rev_prod_img

Why that book? :confused:

roage
06-09-2009, 06:15 PM
Why that book? :confused:
De Layfayette has access to some interesting ancient clay tablet translations and hob knobs with a bunch of the alternative history folks like Icke. This is a "how to" book to remove some of the last impediments and obstacles to one's spiritual growth. It has help my wife, others and I immensely straiten out some misconceptions and bad habits. We never stop learning. I am not into the communication with spirit guides but this is an old process that has been around before religion.

ex sheep
07-09-2009, 03:15 PM
Hi reading with interest :)

If everything is meant to be how it is, what is going to happen with all these poisons in our food, air, vaccines, and wont that make it harder for us to realise where to start looking for the truth.
How will these things affect us.
I for one bye the way am not going to accept these poisons, but there maybe a time when we cannot avoid them.
What is your take on this.

roage
07-09-2009, 10:52 PM
Hi reading with interest :)

If everything is meant to be how it is, what is going to happen with all these poisons in our food, air, vaccines, and wont that make it harder for us to realise where to start looking for the truth.
How will these things affect us.
I for one bye the way am not going to accept these poisons, but there maybe a time when we cannot avoid them.
What is your take on this.

What if you could "accidentally" avoid them? What if they can effect only those who are ignorant or afraid of them. What if the power exist within each of us to remain unaffected by them or even better that the poisons themselves are responsible for bringing about the change.

I used to be very intelligent. It was when I turned off the brain and turned on the heart where things really changed for me. Mercury, aspartame and glutamate acid attack the brain. What if we do not need it?

I am in a place right now where I don't worry about anything. If I die, I die if I live then OK. I exist only because there is purpose in me being around. When there is no more purpose for me to be here then I go and will be glad to do so. Apparently I have more to learn.

As far as finding the Truth, one need only decide to put away their fear and face the Truth. It is a simple choice and I have found that intellect is no immunity to confusion and can be, in most cases, the source of it as, knowledge is not wisdom.

Cheers

Roage

lake2348
08-09-2009, 06:28 AM
Thank you for your thoughtful responses to people's inquiries. This morning coming online I 'wished' for a thread with some meat being frustrated by so much bull and speculation.

I don't entirely grok all of, I guess, how you put into words what you want to convey. I cringe everytime I see the word "God" especially capitalized, therefore, setting up a religious connection which is inherently and separation paradigm.

I made my contract before or as I came into 3rd dimension and also took me many years of investigative work to buy that I am not a cursed fool but a multi-dimensional spirit in a human body having a 3D experience and I accepted the mission, contracted for the mission..and finally am taking personal responsibility for my experiences here, released guilt, allow myself to smoke until I stop (and maybe it doesn't matter) so I'm not a victim of tobacco companies, but of misinformation because many many folks have stopped.

I have had that Flash of recognition of myself and all of us as Source. I KNOW its the only reality cannot not be.

I too do what I want, mostly be by myself, love my own company and don't care if I live or die.

I especially grokked your bit about bad food etc not affecting those of us who don't buy the fear factor.

Could you give us your thots on this: We are part of the Creator and thus have creation powers. Your MO seems to be listening and allowing, not visualizing. As I have just enough and everything I need I'm ok, took me some years to obtain the quiet solitary setting (with people near enough!)

And first time I have ever heard the bit about dealing with thot pollution when meditating. Love it and will utilize it. Usually I judge my thots as too repetive and boring, so will look with discernment.

One thing really drives me nuts. Sub-woofers in vehicles or venues sending out low booming frequences for kilometers it seems. Makes me sick and confused and angry when I can feel it in my bones. No matter how far ones gets away, there's always one. Remedy? other than car bombs?

Glad I found you. You are marvelously accessible and I'm grateful.

swift44
08-09-2009, 07:27 AM
Pretty good so far you need to realize what you will be giving up and that is you will not be permitted to create a victim. In the movie "Kingdom of Heaven" one of the terms was a knight must tell the truth even when it means his death.

Don't worry nothing bad can come from telling the truth.

Now, I suggest you simply find someplace where you can be completely alone, preferably in nature. Tell God out loud that you are ready. If God determines that in your heart you are ready then something very odd will begin happening. In fact it is already happening. Very few are able to peruse the site and glean from it what you now know. What is feeding you this information? Did you not realize that this has been happening all your life? Can you remember a time where this thing man calls God was not there? When were you not being taught a good lesson and has not everything to this point worked to make you what you are now? It will wash over you like warm water and you may cry. I did, and so have the others who have gone before you.

Do not feel bad if it does not happen right away God must know that you want it. It is awesome and the responsibility to maintain that trust will be tested. It is OK you, get a few mulligans. God is just and fair and it is a learning experience.

The truth is you are already very nearly there you just need to "realize" it. Ask God. It must be spoken and audible. Remember, thinking it does not make it verbal.

Take your time, it is really not up to you anyway. It is all in God's hands. It always was....

Is their any tip you have for making that final step roage? Or anything helpful in general for me?

roage
09-09-2009, 09:12 PM
Thank you for your thoughtful responses to people's inquiries. This morning coming online I 'wished' for a thread with some meat being frustrated by so much bull and speculation.

I don't entirely grok all of, I guess, how you put into words what you want to convey. I cringe everytime I see the word "God" especially capitalized, therefore, setting up a religious connection which is inherently and separation paradigm.

"Grok" is the closest word I have found to describe the idea of "complete understanding" required. If people do not understand what "Grok" is then a reading of "A Stranger in a Strange Land" (http://www.amazon.com/Stranger-Strange-Land-Robert-Heinlein/dp/0441788386/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1252521795&sr=8-1) is in order and it is a great book.

I made my contract before or as I came into 3rd dimension and also took me many years of investigative work to buy that I am not a cursed fool but a multi-dimensional spirit in a human body having a 3D experience and I accepted the mission, contracted for the mission..and finally am taking personal responsibility for my experiences here, released guilt, allow myself to smoke until I stop (and maybe it doesn't matter) so I'm not a victim of tobacco companies, but of misinformation because many many folks have stopped.

I have had that Flash of recognition of myself and all of us as Source. I KNOW its the only reality cannot not be.

I too do what I want, mostly be by myself, love my own company and don't care if I live or die.

I especially grokked your bit about bad food etc not affecting those of us who don't buy the fear factor.

Could you give us your thots on this: We are part of the Creator and thus have creation powers. Your MO seems to be listening and allowing, not visualizing. As I have just enough and everything I need I'm ok, took me some years to obtain the quiet solitary setting (with people near enough!)

We for me I have given up control. I no longer attempt to control. I really did not have that control in the first place. It is merely the appearence of control. It would be too dangerous for me to muster creation energies and I am my own worst advocate. Instead I have the things I need manifest for me. I trust the self to know what is best for me and although it may not be conscious, I can see how these choices do truly bring me the best of what I need. I like surprises and the Universe is happy to delight me. Make things easy too. I need not waste energy worrying about it. I am simply happy to be here. It is all I really occupy myself with. The rest falls into place perfectly on its own.

And first time I have ever heard the bit about dealing with thot pollution when meditating. Love it and will utilize it. Usually I judge my thots as too repetive and boring, so will look with discernment.

One thing really drives me nuts. Sub-woofers in vehicles or venues sending out low booming frequences for kilometers it seems. Makes me sick and confused and angry when I can feel it in my bones. No matter how far ones gets away, there's always one. Remedy? other than car bombs?

Glad I found you. You are marvelously accessible and I'm grateful.

If you do not give it power then it cannot affect you. This aggravation they cause is not constructive. I realize they violate your peace and it is a crime to project this nonsense into space. If those that engage in this nonsense understand that their continual violation guarantees them continual suffering then they would not do so. This low frequency reduces the energy only of those who are ignorant of their effect. Namely the one stupid enough to violate the airspace in the first place.

This noise has no effect as it should be continually reflected by you right back to them as they are the instruments of their own destruction. In fact you can even indulge in it provided you do not allow it to consume you. This reflection only magnifies the effect on those others in earshot that are ignorant of the effects. Since you no longer absorb it then it is concentrated on those "unaware".

They who are ignorant are not given the choice to reflect it. An may choose radical means to avoid it providing the mechanism of suffering to the perpetrator while you pleasantly remain unaffected.

As far as my accessibility. I would like to converse with Icke. The longer I am in service the greater my chance that he may discover that I am here. I have a message for him that I have not yet been permitted to relate.

He needs to teach the law as I do. It is missing from his message. He is scaring people and that fear is not constructive.

"Fear is the mind killer"

People will not allow themselves to hear Icke's true message because their egos are working overtime to conceal the Truth from their conscious awareness. The ego uses fear to filter out uncomfortable truth and thereby remains the controller of our perception. One must attack the weapon before the incoming barrage will abate. Eliminate the fear and the ego is powerless. Once the "self" is coaxed out of the shell, empowered and dominates one's perception, it never abdicates power back to the ego. Then we see the Truth and only then are we free.

Help get this message to Icke and to anyone who truly wishes people to know the Truth.

Cheers,

Roage

roage
09-09-2009, 10:03 PM
Is their any tip you have for making that final step roage? Or anything helpful in general for me?

You can begin by directing your questions to this thing men call "God" the spirit within you or the "holy spirit" is the "Self"! "Know thy self!" It is far more qualified to answer. You should already know that this being is talking to you. Be quiet, be still, be vigilant and attentive and learn how this being talks to you. Nothing in your experience is unimportant. The answers are within you and they manifest in clues and "coincidences" around you. Look for them. Free yourself of distraction. Watch this:

2012 - The Future of Mankind (http://www.roage.com/main.asp?PageID=96)

Oh, and turn off that g__damned television and do not pay for another newspaper or magazine. Why feed those who trick you into enslaving yourself?

Have heart! The paradigm has already changed. We are simply waiting for the realization to propagate. Share what you have learned with others. In that way you will teach yourself what you must know. Do not be afaid of looking like a fool. It is the true power card in the Tarot. "Tarot", "Torah" comes from "Taruit". It is where our word Truth comes from. The "T"s in tarot were pronounced "CH" or "Charoch" and that is where we get the word "Church".

There is much we need to learn. No need to rush. Take your time. You exist in eternity. Relax nothing to be afraid of. There is no time limit and you are not judged by any standard.

Do not be afraid to be called "insane". "Sanity" for most, is to be an unhappy slave in compliant obedience to those who do not have your best interests in mind. To truly be "sane" is to have a mind cleansed of nonsense and confusion. Work on a sanitary mind. One must remove the programming, not be re-programmed.

"Free your mind"

It is catching on. My ISP as upgraded me to unlimited bandwidth for free and without my asking. They know what is at stake. People are pounding the site. I understand it goes down from time to time and that is why we need new channels and mirror sites. Copy the information freely. You are all permitted to do so. It does not come from me and I am not permitted to charge for it neither will you be permitted. Try it if you do not believe me. There are no ads on my site. I cannot charge for seminars. It does not work.

Do as you are led. You do not need me. This is not another control scheme you are free to follow your bliss. Nothing more.

VIOLENCE IS NOT REQUIRED FOR ANY REASON!

The more people understand what is presented and follow the procedure the faster the big switch will be thrown.

We are revealing the Truth. It is the "Revelation". "Apocalypse" means literally: "leather mask" or "covering". When the leather mask falls away the Truth will be revealed. The leather mask is the face you wear in your experience, nothing more. You are special. You are powerful and you already know what I know because you and I are one.

Even if the world ends we will continue or more accurately: "I" will continue as we are all one waiting for the multitude of masks to drop one by one revealing the singular Truth.

Do not be discouraged if people do not "get it". The timing is not in your or their hands. Those that are ready will awaken. Those who do not will be under ever more pressure as they see those around them as one mind.

Something is coming, something wonderful!

God! I love this game!

Roage

roage
09-09-2009, 10:09 PM
I live in Leander Texas. You know, I can stand right in front of people and they have no idea the power of knowledge I carry inside. I am hidden right in front of their eyes. It just tickles me to know what is about to happen and very soon we move to a new and more wonderful lesson. Divine grace and protection is truly wonderful and it is cool when I am allowed to witness this protection in action.

"Will I be able to dodge bullets like an Agent?"

"Neo, when you are The One, you won't have to..."

Roage

lake2348
10-09-2009, 02:16 AM
As far as my accessibility. I would like to converse with Icke. The longer I am in service the greater my chance that he may discover that I am here. I have a message for him that I have not yet been permitted to relate.

He needs to teach the law as I do. It is missing from his message. He is scaring people and that fear is not constructive.

"Fear is the mind killer"

People will not allow themselves to hear Icke's true message because their egos are working overtime to conceal the Truth from their conscious awareness. The ego uses fear to filter out uncomfortable truth and thereby remains the controller of our perception. One must attack the weapon before the incoming barrage will abate. Eliminate the fear and the ego is powerless. Once the "self" is coaxed out of the shell, empowered and dominates one's perception, it never abdicates power back to the ego. Then we see the Truth and only then are we free.

[QUOTE]Help get this message to Icke and to anyone who truly wishes people to know the Truth.

Wish I could help..personally have no ties but will project thot to him and you can too.

Much fear around and the fellow expats living here in an Asian country, don't seem to know anything, blissfully unaware while indulging. Locals' economy totally based on foreign visits and panic when the numbers drop off.

Creation: I'm not talking about things...but creating a climate for new cooperative ideas to take shape. Benevolent extraterrestrials help is waiting in the wings, if we let go of our fear as you say, know who we are, and ask for help. Number one on our agenda should be cleaning up the planet. Cleaning up our toxic thoughts is the first step. Thanks for responding. Lake

roage
10-09-2009, 03:11 AM
Cleaning up our toxic thoughts is the first step. Thanks for responding. Lake

A man who knows the playing field.

I spent 3 years in Hong Kong. They were still drinking the kool-aid when I left.

Rather liked it myself.

I should think "those who think they rule" are ready for a change also.

We the little people in America should be easing their fear also, instead of buying guns.

One way or another the Truth will out.

Cheers

Roage

swift44
18-09-2009, 04:07 AM
You can begin by directing your questions to this thing men call "God" the spirit within you or the "holy spirit" is the "Self"! "Know thy self!" It is far more qualified to answer. You should already know that this being is talking to you. Be quiet, be still, be vigilant and attentive and learn how this being talks to you. Nothing in your experience is unimportant. The answers are within you and they manifest in clues and "coincidences" around you. Look for them. Free yourself of distraction. Watch this:

2012 - The Future of Mankind (http://www.roage.com/main.asp?PageID=96)

Oh, and turn off that g__damned television and do not pay for another newspaper or magazine. Why feed those who trick you into enslaving yourself?

Have heart! The paradigm has already changed. We are simply waiting for the realization to propagate. Share what you have learned with others. In that way you will teach yourself what you must know. Do not be afaid of looking like a fool. It is the true power card in the Tarot. "Tarot", "Torah" comes from "Taruit". It is where our word Truth comes from. The "T"s in tarot were pronounced "CH" or "Charoch" and that is where we get the word "Church".

There is much we need to learn. No need to rush. Take your time. You exist in eternity. Relax nothing to be afraid of. There is no time limit and you are not judged by any standard.

Do not be afraid to be called "insane". "Sanity" for most, is to be an unhappy slave in compliant obedience to those who do not have your best interests in mind. To truly be "sane" is to have a mind cleansed of nonsense and confusion. Work on a sanitary mind. One must remove the programming, not be re-programmed.

"Free your mind"

It is catching on. My ISP as upgraded me to unlimited bandwidth for free and without my asking. They know what is at stake. People are pounding the site. I understand it goes down from time to time and that is why we need new channels and mirror sites. Copy the information freely. You are all permitted to do so. It does not come from me and I am not permitted to charge for it neither will you be permitted. Try it if you do not believe me. There are no ads on my site. I cannot charge for seminars. It does not work.

Do as you are led. You do not need me. This is not another control scheme you are free to follow your bliss. Nothing more.

VIOLENCE IS NOT REQUIRED FOR ANY REASON!

The more people understand what is presented and follow the procedure the faster the big switch will be thrown.

We are revealing the Truth. It is the "Revelation". "Apocalypse" means literally: "leather mask" or "covering". When the leather mask falls away the Truth will be revealed. The leather mask is the face you wear in your experience, nothing more. You are special. You are powerful and you already know what I know because you and I are one.

Even if the world ends we will continue or more accurately: "I" will continue as we are all one waiting for the multitude of masks to drop one by one revealing the singular Truth.

Do not be discouraged if people do not "get it". The timing is not in your or their hands. Those that are ready will awaken. Those who do not will be under ever more pressure as they see those around them as one mind.

Something is coming, something wonderful!

God! I love this game!

Roage

I've asked a question out loud to god or the self or whatever a week or two ago, although I must say I've seen the thing I asked the question about a bit more than usual I still couldn't/can't come up with the answer. :confused:

roage
18-09-2009, 09:41 AM
I've asked a question out loud to god or the self or whatever a week or two ago, although I must say I've seen the thing I asked the question about a bit more than usual I still couldn't/can't come up with the answer. :confused:

Give me a few days I am working on an audio slide show. It is my most comprehensive treatment. Are you getting imagery? Any mind racing? Odd coincidences happening? New people in your experience?

I got this the other day it was very interesting:

http://www.scribd.com/doc/403303/The-Revelations-of-an-Elite-Family-Insider-2005

deckard666
18-09-2009, 01:44 PM
Give me a few days I am working on an audio slide show. It is my most comprehensive treatment. Are you getting imagery? Any mind racing? Odd coincidences happening? New people in your experience?

I got this the other day it was very interesting:

http://www.scribd.com/doc/403303/The-Revelations-of-an-Elite-Family-Insider-2005

That was one of my starting information that lead me over uncountable stations finally to you ;)

It's a good example ... there was one sentence in it that always stayed in my mind. While reading all the different conspiracy stuff I always found such a little gem in it - doesn't matter how stupid or hilarious the whole story was. In each pile of crap is a little gem that leads you further.

In the "Elite Insider" material it was:

The Truth wants to be known by you. It's main goal, to inviting you every moment of your life, so to be understood by you. It is out of Necessity simple and to be noticed relating to Providence. It is "right in front of you".Coincidences work great ... it's not easy to get it sometimes but I think it is because of the wrong lifetime experience (if you do it over 35 years wrong you just can't change that ...). It's still hard work for me but getting better slowly. I think I solved the German Law problem through it ... it was literally "right in front of my eyes" for months ...

swift44
19-09-2009, 01:57 AM
Give me a few days I am working on an audio slide show. It is my most comprehensive treatment. Are you getting imagery? Any mind racing? Odd coincidences happening? New people in your experience?

I got this the other day it was very interesting:

http://www.scribd.com/doc/403303/The-Revelations-of-an-Elite-Family-Insider-2005

Yes Roage, my mind is going places, really, I may be standing somewhere doing nothing and something may come up regarding God and how life works and such, maybe it's starting.

Also I did see that same thread about a year ago, Funny reading that guy's answers to questions helped me "believe" your articles instead of turning around and calling bs. I recently reread it and there are so many similarities to what he talks about and what you say, just to state the obvious. I actually decided to post a link to your site on that same thread, would that be how you found the link to the thread by any chance eg someone coming to your site and telling you about it:p

Edit: Looking forward to the slideshow

particlepopup
19-09-2009, 01:57 AM
Give me a few days I am working on an audio slide show. It is my most comprehensive treatment. Are you getting imagery? Any mind racing? Odd coincidences happening? New people in your experience?

I got this the other day it was very interesting:

http://www.scribd.com/doc/403303/The-Revelations-of-an-Elite-Family-Insider-2005

Looking forward to your slide show, only half way reading through the link, its most absorbing, synchronicity is abundant in my life, i love making the connections.:)

roage
19-09-2009, 04:46 AM
That was one of my starting information that lead me over uncountable stations finally to you ;)

It's a good example ... there was one sentence in it that always stayed in my mind. While reading all the different conspiracy stuff I always found such a little gem in it - doesn't matter how stupid or hilarious the whole story was. In each pile of crap is a little gem that leads you further.

In the "Elite Insider" material it was:

Coincidences work great ... it's not easy to get it sometimes but I think it is because of the wrong lifetime experience (if you do it over 35 years wrong you just can't change that ...). It's still hard work for me but getting better slowly. I think I solved the German Law problem through it ... it was literally "right in front of my eyes" for months ...

I didn't get it until I was 42 July 4th 4:44 AM 2009

Funny about the insider thing prison/classroom no escapes.

:D

roage
19-09-2009, 04:59 AM
Yes Roage, my mind is going places, really, I may be standing somewhere doing nothing and something may come up regarding God and how life works and such, maybe it's starting.

Also I did see that same thread about a year ago, Funny reading that guy's answers to questions helped me "believe" your articles instead of turning around and calling bs. I recently reread it and there are so many similarities to what he talks about and what you say, just to state the obvious. I actually decided to post a link to your site on that same thread, would that be how you found the link to the thread by any chance eg someone coming to your site and telling you about it:p

I have people emailing me from all over. I had not seen that thread. I have thought about what was in the thread and I saw amazing parallels with where I am now versus some of the dated stuff on the site. My site is an evolution as I fit more of the information into place.

As far as things fitting into place. Remember you get it as you can handle it. Nothing is forced on you that you are not ready to handle. For my wife it was slow. Over a period of about two years. I am still analyzing why. She says it was because she was not ready even though she had convinced herself she was. Only recently has she started putting the final pieces in place. My Daughter and Daughter in law snapped on like light bulbs. It took one lady overnight. The next day she was grinning. Another guy who pulled me over in traffic got it the next day after he thought about for a while. And an ordained minister snapped on while I was talking to him.

Don't worry in the pipeline. Be diligent and deliberate. Depending where you are you might have to blow it a few times so you can gather the right lessons. Don't sweat it. You are paying attention the right way and that is a much more than I can say for most.

roage
19-09-2009, 05:04 AM
Looking forward to your slide show, only half way reading through the link, its most absorbing, synchronicity is abundant in my life, i love making the connections.:)

I have found I do no not relate to people on a egocentric or what I call a "theatrical" way. It leads to more constructive dialog and I don't get embroiled in the drama. The more time passes the more I enjoy all people. It is funny, I used to think some of them were evil. :D

particlepopup
19-09-2009, 10:12 AM
I have found I do no not relate to people on a egocentric or what I call a "theatrical" way. It leads to more constructive dialog and I don't get embroiled in the drama. The more time passes the more I enjoy all people. It is funny, I used to think some of them were evil. :D

I understand what you mean, as yesterday a bit of a senario came up and realized that my ego was do the talking, all turned out ok however, when i mentioned connections i didnt specifically mean people it was more events that transpire, all fits down to a tee really:)

roage
19-09-2009, 08:51 PM
I understand what you mean, as yesterday a bit of a senario came up and realized that my ego was do the talking, all turned out ok however, when i mentioned connections i didnt specifically mean people it was more events that transpire, all fits down to a tee really:)

Well how things are for me is that my whole life is a series of purposeful "arrangements". When you get in the grove that is as it should be. At first it tripped me out the way things were working. Now it is simply how things are. Tell that to some poor guy out there afraid of some made-up monster around the corner and he would think you insane.

Much has to happen.

I am still working on the video. I am not comfortable robbing images off the net so I need to replace them with some of my original artwork and pictures.

deckard666
19-09-2009, 09:30 PM
We need more humor here.

There are no coincidences (http://photography.nationalgeographic.com/photography/enlarge/squirrel-portrait-banff.html). :)

@Roage:
Yes much has to happen. I thought about that at work today by just observing people. I am a sales clerk. Making contracts everyday. Right in front of my eyes the whole time ... don't tell me the creator hasn't a good sense of humor.

Everything needed to get many people to the door was taken from them ... what does responsibility, buyer beware, a word mean to most of the people today? Most people can't even grasp the meaning of what being responsible for themselves really means. I don't see a change happening on a big scale. I guess it's a teach one after one thing. Some of them become teachers too and so it spreads.

Lately I looked into the freeman-of-the-land movement a little. That may be a good approach from the "real world" side to the "spiritual world". I have the feeling they just ask what they can do with it and don't WHY the glitches are there in the system.

roage
20-09-2009, 01:40 AM
We need more humor here.

There are no coincidences (http://photography.nationalgeographic.com/photography/enlarge/squirrel-portrait-banff.html). :)

@Roage:
Yes much has to happen. I thought about that at work today by just observing people. I am a sales clerk. Making contracts everyday. Right in front of my eyes the whole time ... don't tell me the creator hasn't a good sense of humor.

Everything needed to get many people to the door was taken from them ... what does responsibility, buyer beware, a word mean to most of the people today? Most people can't even grasp the meaning of what being responsible for themselves really means. I don't see a change happening on a big scale. I guess it's a teach one after one thing. Some of them become teachers too and so it spreads.

Lately I looked into the freeman-of-the-land movement a little. That may be a good approach from the "real world" side to the "spiritual world". I have the feeling they just ask what they can do with it and don't WHY the glitches are there in the system.

I have though a lot about that.

I simply have enough to eat, a warm dry, soft place to sleep, people to strike up a nice conversion with, enough work to be good exercise and the freedom to change my scenery now and then. I am just fine.

As far as wanting something. When these people get done, wasting, poisoning, breaking, burning and killing everything then there will not be much worth owning anyway. They can have it all. They just won't be able to keep it and that realization is coming quickly.

Until then, it will be great entertainment to watch these goof balls, who think they own all the stuff and think they have the power tell other people what to do, make complete fools of themselves and put the ropes around their own necks and kick the chair out from under themselves.

It is nice to have a few others around me to watch the show with.

Roage

roage
20-09-2009, 07:47 AM
There are no coincidences.

Chipmunks and Pika (they live at 12000 ft and up) are some of the cutest rodents I have come across.

Chipmunks can be really curious and fearless. This one is probably looking at his reflection in the lense.

I have had them come up to me and steal stuff out of my hand when I wasn't looking.

solarwindspirit
20-09-2009, 07:50 AM
Chipmunks and Pika (they live at 12000 ft and up) are some of the cutest rodents I have come across.

Chipmunks can be really curious and fearless. This one is probably looking at his reflection in the lense.

I have had them come up to me and steal stuff out of my hand when I wasn't looking.

yeah. . .live and let live. . .
what lense? the lense that bends?

I had a pet squirrel once. . .I gave him to my father. . .he always rode on his shoulder. . .
should have seen em. . .bury himself in his pocket. . .you could see the shells fly up from his pocket.
Chuckberry would climb up you like a tree. . .that was his very favorite place to be. . .and then sit upon your shoulder to take a ride. . .and felt so enormously big riding on pop's shoulder.


http://www.go2moon.com/image/Pika/Pika-0843-1.jpg

pika. . .related to the rabbit family cute

http://myfunnypics.org/d/239-1/Tiny+finger-size+monkeys.jpg
ever thing else is just mickey mouse. . .peace

particlepopup
20-09-2009, 12:36 PM
Well how things are for me is that my whole life is a series of purposeful "arrangements". When you get in the grove that is as it should be. At first it tripped me out the way things were working. Now it is simply how things are. Tell that to some poor guy out there afraid of some made-up monster around the corner and he would think you insane.

Much has to happen.

I am still working on the video. I am not comfortable robbing images off the net so I need to replace them with some of my original artwork and pictures.

Well i am an artist and would be happy to help out, "purposeful arrangments" i like it. :)

swift44
20-09-2009, 08:43 PM
I've asked a question out loud to god or the self or whatever a week or two ago, although I must say I've seen the thing I asked the question about a bit more than usual I still couldn't/can't come up with the answer. :confused:

Animals and pets are here with us to learn I think thats it.

roage
20-09-2009, 09:26 PM
This was in response to an email the and I believe it is constructive to post here.

XXX wrote:
> Roger you made this statement:
>
> “I have existed completely un-hampered, un-restricted and un-molested in
> my business and affairs. It requires no energy or thought on my part as
> I apparently hide right in front of their faces. ”
>
> Does this mean you have no “fiction friendly” documentation for travel
> or business or banking? I am curious as I have served notice I do not
> need it to the fiction and of course it go ignored. But I have not been
> run through the complete rickets when confronted on a few occasions, and
> some occasions had most amazing occurrences happen.
>
> I have come to know Honor is the only law. Deciphering from there is the
> task at hand. I would like your opinion on the torturous take over of
> this land being a conquest from the get go, therefore leaving Congress
> as never having been a legitimate representation of any one, but a
> fiction. Therefore the stall you mention having no bearing. Your site,
> which I am very thankful I found, clearly shows you lean to a
> responsibility toward the Creator’s work as well as a fellow man
> kindness or assistance. What say ye of the illegitimacy of your presence
> here on this land? Or are you full blooded? And if so what do you thing
> of the trespass on your land at the expense of your relative blood and
> torture? I don’t mean for this to be a ping pong game, please
> understand, I am not at all interested in that.
>
> Also please understand I agree with you this is a “man in the mirror”
> experience we find our single selves in as far as our duty to the
> Superior, but I don’t think our single selves have the luxury of
> exclusion of our fellow man. With discretion I presume.
>
> Kinda like, I want to be lazy but I don’t dare, to me. LOL
>
> In the highest regard,
>
> XXX

XXX,

You might want to read this email out loud in a clear and audible voice. I will explain later.

I want to thank you. You have helped me in way[s] that quite frankly most would not imagine.

From where I am your question is a Non-Sequitor I will get to your question in a bit.

I have been trying to understand why people could not read the material on my site and initiate the audience sequence with the Supreme Authority. I have be able to help people when I was teaching them directly. I could even use the scripts verbatim and it would work. I could do it on the phone. In thinking about the response to your question and the information you have given me. I was thinking about why when I write an email the information largely carries no power and cannot manifest the desired effect in the reader. When I found the Grail myself it was through listening and not reading. The answer came real early this morning and again it was reinforced with an audience with the Supreme Authority. I could not smell anything but the bedroom appeared like it was filled with smoke or a cloud. I was quite emotional overwhelmed. Love and joy was on tap and I have my answer. The timing is not coincidental. I was required to be educated to this as I was moving "subconsciously" (by the self) to the answer already. Two days ago I began putting together a slide show with an audio track of the law I reveal on my site. It was being forced and I have moved past that threshold.

You were instrumental in that transition whether you are conscious of it or not and you have my gratitude for your part.

You are much more then you may or may not understand.

Reading words to one's self is powerless. Thoughts by themselves have no power. This allows us to understand and conceive things before we actually commit them to be made manifest for us. It is a safety buffer. This principle is apparently well known to those that practice Magik. We are free to entertain any aberration without sanction. The second we act and put these thoughts into audible words or action, the Universe is tangibly effected and begins a series of consequences proportional and commensurate to the words, actions and intent behind them. Intentions by themselves are powerless. For this reason we "spell" words. Spoken words themselves have the power of moving the Universe in accordance with Divine Law. That is why a man or woman must be very careful with what they say out loud as these things will be put into motion. "Our word is our bond".

I now know with absolute certainty what I am and what I came here specifically to do. I understand, at least after my enlightenment, that I had a special task before me and I knew that when the time was right I would know what I needed to know and was happy to trust the Supreme Authority in His/Her timing and control of the matter and of me.

I am very old. I was one of them the Insider describes. Now I am part of the minority in opposition as required by the Supreme Authority. I was quite content to be one of the masters of Hell rather then a lackey in Heaven. I was changed. Those at the top have been permitted to close off the exit door from this lower energy state. This has caused an enormous back log of entities trapped in the game. The game board is now being pushed to the edge of its ability to sustain such a magnitude without anomalous interdiction of the Supreme Authority. The Divine Law must obey Divine Law. They (Insiders) themselves continued to incarnate in the master bloodlines, without ascending, in order to maintain control over the exit door. They have not ascended and the few that were brought to the ascension keys were not suffiecint to offset the new arrivals. It is a narrow door, a very narrow door. Up until now too narrow. The few that have ascended have not been permitted by the Supreme Authority to document the process. If they did, their work was confiscated. This was permissible and had the blessing of the Supreme Authority.

We have entered a new paradigm and the door is to be opened and a harvest of unimaginable proportions is about to occur. It was set up to transpire in this way. What was required is one or more must incarnate as a man outside of the ruling bloodlines and come to learn the Divine Law independently of the bloodlines. That would not be easy and it would require the specific placement of others around to keep them on the program. I am not alone. I know there are others. Nothing in my life was an accident and every event worked to bring me exactly to this point of realization. It was not easy for me and it very nearly killed me many times.

The old me required a high degree of narcissism, a complete lack of respect of authority, a high degree of tenacity, limitless curiosity and the ability to pay attention to the things that truly mattered within the context of that objective. I am a man who has no trouble going one direction even though the entire population of the world may tell me I am wrong and march in another direction. I could not be corrupted away from the objective as no amount of wealth, fame or adoration would be permitted to pervert the objective. I had often wondered why certain things have not happened to me, no more. I have never been arrested. I have had one uncomfortable encounter with man's "law enforcement" where I was merely in close proximity to the perpetrator. From some of the activities I was engaged in, you have to understand, that it is in no small part curious.

This all transpired such that my ego was in full opposition. It was necessary as the education was structured that I would run away and not realize that I was running toward something. This blindness served to protected me from cogently recognizing what was happening until I was ready for the audience to occur. It also succeeding others from subverting me until I donned this mantle of protection. I did not march in lock-step toward my objective. I was dragged kicking and screaming in complete ignorance. It occurred in spite of my ego and to because of it. My early experience and up until my transcendence can be described, exclusively, as an endless exercise of beating my head against the wall. Even now my ego has been harnessed to delay me to such time as my progress adheres to Divine Timing.

"We are putting the band back together..." The Blues Brothers.

To your question:

I am a man and to snap up a share of school property is not my objective, never should have been in the first place. It is not worth having now anyway. That which makes me legitimate is my unconditional trust in the Supreme Authority and the immediate tasks I am to fulfill in complete accordance to Divine Law.

"I will trust you (The Supreme Authority) if you remove from me my ability to create a victim"

This is the Holy Grail Contract.

When I say I cannot create a victim. It is not that I have an arbitrarily imposed standard that I adhere to. I have been rendered unable to create a victim. Therefore power cannot be marshaled against me. If you have read out loud My "Declaration of Sovereignty and Independence" on my site you will notice I make a few very curious statements. I remedy to all contracts of color and I determine how I can be bound to a real contract under divine law. I must say "I agree" or write "I agree" with my own hand otherwise I have not entered into contract. "So called Jews" go to temple once a year to put the same kind of structure in place.

I exist with a continual dialog with the Supreme Authority. I am "made" to do what I damn well please. As I trust the Supreme Authority without condition as my duty under the Holy Grail Contract. I need not worry that "what I want to do" does not fall outside Divine Law and is in accordance with the will of the Supreme Authority.

I operate under "color of compliance" and am moved to certain do certain things as I see fit. I know all of these fictions are either frauds, compelled (therefore not contract) or attempt to cause me to operate against the Will of the Supreme Authority and the enforcement and protection from those who mistakenly think they can compel me to terms is subservient to the will and Plan of the Supreme Authority. If ROGER KENT POOL or Roger-Kent: Pool has not been able to subvert this objective and purpose then no armies of man will be permitted to. They already know who I am. I have made it a point to notify them. I realize I present a huge problem for them and they are just waiting for me to go away.

I get no junk mail in the mailbox. That by itself is a miracle. I am moved to comply with traffic law, as it is not in my nature to create an outrage. One who is outraged is a victim. In the times the Supreme Authority saw fit to break that man-imposed standard in the general proximity of a "law enforcement officer", they either have their attention focused elsewhere, feel compelled to "let me slide" or simply drive away. This is my life. I exist completely under the radar even though my lawful presentments, early on, have reached the highest levels. I assure you the part of the reason that Chief Justice John Roberts bound Obama to the Republic Constitution the first time was he knew there was at least one man that knew better and was monitoring his specific behavior. It required that Obama re-bind himself the the Constitution of THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA right after. I wonder if Obama is smart enough to know his original oath supersedes any subsequent oath because I have not given him the power to waive his contract to me.

I have encountered several agents whose only task was to bind me to contract and return me back under the command hierarchy. They have been frustrated. I can tell you the last thing they will do is allow me in an open court as I require no edifice of man to be made whole by a any violation of Divine Law that makes me a victim. They who matter know that.

As I do not create victims then I cannot be made a victim. "Do unto others as you would have done unto you". That is Divine Law and one of the simplest ways to understand the principle at work.

As far as documentation, I require none as it is never an issue. I labor not for Federal Reserve Notes but because I am to needed and liberate people I encounter through the performance of my work. Those I am led to work for are fully cognizant of the law and I notify them as to my true state prior to the commission of any work. They understand that the paper colorable contract will not be enforced and they are happy to take me at my word that my work will exceed any and all expectation. This has worked flawlessly and I have all that I am required to have provided I work to fulfill my true objective.

I have no fear of trespass as the only time my rights will be violated is by the Supreme Authority according to Divine Law. As Divine Law obeys Divine Law then if my life is forfeit then it is to be forfeit. This deprivation of rights can only come as necessary and purposeful in accordance with Divine Law and for the specific purpose of furthering the objective given to me. There have not been nor will there ever be an exception to this axiom.

To participate in the fiction is to be complicit in the creation of victims and I am not able to comply. It is a violation that I am not permitted. The only exceptions are permitted only my immediate environment, as required by the Supreme Authority such that it creates no real victims.

I understand that this level of trust and devotion falls outside of most men's taste. It was, from my egos perspective, outside of my taste also. That was before I met the Supreme Authority. My respect for its power, logic and perfection renders my will and power, not to level of insignificance, but to the simple level of non-existence.

I am not special, except for the fact that the Divine Law was spoon-fed to me directly by the Supreme Authority. This same experience and transformation is available to any the Supreme Authority has determined are ready. In turn those who qualify will know who they are when it is there time.

All is as it should be.

Nothing is going to stop it not even the Supreme Authority.

I am completely insane and delusional by the standard of man as I have written myself into the story of my life.

That which we believe in our minds becomes a god over us and stands between us and the Supreme Authority. Because we often trust these fictions as truth we become transfixed, blinded and hypnotized against our conscious will to identify them for what they are, therefore we are rendered powerless by them and render ourselves unable to remove the impediment by our own will. It is a lesson, in that, the resulting confusion results from the fact that we choose to place fiction before the Supreme Authority.

Since we cannot ourselves remove it, it REQUIRES a willful spoken request and REQUIRES tangible intervention by the Supreme Authority to remove the blindness, such that we can again see the Truth. Often this comes only when we, in total frustration and hopelessness, admit it is not in our power to remedy our state. That is often too much for our egos to bear until our lives become so painful that we try anything for relief. We suicide only by permission and only as it serves the purpose of the Supreme Authority.

I imagine that you are tripping hard right about now....

XXX, you have been duly notified and cannot pretend that this did not occur.

The most wonderful question is: "what now?"

If you did not read this out loud the question is moot.

Love,

Roage

roage
20-09-2009, 10:33 PM
Animals and pets are here with us to learn I think thats it.

It came to me this early this morning in a massive and wonderful way:

Read this and act on it.

I would suggest others do the same.

IMPORTANT! (http://www.roage.com/main.asp?PageID=169)

It is the missing key and look out! something is seriously ready to be unleashed.

Love,

Roage

roage
20-09-2009, 10:38 PM
Well i am an artist and would be happy to help out, "purposeful arrangments" i like it. :)

Well in viewing when I can get some housekeeping out of the way and begin the audio. If you can suggest some additional slides in the sequence I would be most please to receive it. I would be happy to send you the complete movie maker project if that helps. It really isn't my intellectual property to begin with :D

Roage

roage
20-09-2009, 10:40 PM
yeah. . .live and let live. . .
what lense? the lense that bends?

I had a pet squirrel once. . .I gave him to my father. . .he always rode on his shoulder. . .
should have seen em. . .bury himself in his pocket. . .you could see the shells fly up from his pocket.
Chuckberry would climb up you like a tree. . .that was his very favorite place to be. . .and then sit upon your shoulder to take a ride. . .and felt so enormously big riding on pop's shoulder.


http://www.go2moon.com/image/Pika/Pika-0843-1.jpg

pika. . .related to the rabbit family cute

http://myfunnypics.org/d/239-1/Tiny+finger-size+monkeys.jpg
ever thing else is just mickey mouse. . .peace

Pikas will sit on the rocks and sound the alarm like prairie dog. You just want to grab em and pet em. That is if they wouldn't bite the SH__ out of you. :)

relax
20-09-2009, 11:53 PM
This was in response to an email the and I believe it is constructive to post here.

-Stuff-


Great post, thanks.

roage
21-09-2009, 03:26 AM
Great post, thanks.

Now don't make the tough guy cry ;)

swift44
21-09-2009, 06:06 AM
Those who dont know their past are doomed to reapeat it, I now know what this means :O

roage
21-09-2009, 05:22 PM
Those who dont know their past are doomed to reapeat it, I now know what this means :O

Being connected to the Universal Mind is quite a nice gadget to have. I think it beats an iPod hands down. You are getting your education and it seems to me that someone (???) is performing to the terms of a contract and is providing knowledge according to their end of the bargain.

Since all power in this Universe is expressed through a contract of one form or another then knowing what a contract really is and how it works is a environment altering kernel of wisdom.

I see you are being taken through your past and having your lessons explained.

Expect to start knowing why things happened and remembering things you have forgotten long ago that caused your problems in the first place.

I love this game!

:D

Roage

roage
22-09-2009, 08:06 AM
Hi XXX,

Why was Tommy the pinball wizard?

Well, he played by intuition and that made him a damn sight more skilled at this game then most!

The "dumb" label was just warped perception. Right-brain is King!

I am posting this on the David Icke Forum. I will XXX out your name.

Just remember it is always darkest right before it goes pitch black :D

You might want to read this aloud:

I want to share with you some revelations from my Sunday morning meeting with the Big One.

The communications happen almost instantaneously but it takes a while for the old neuron to spread the cards out on the table correctly.

The true Bloodlines have been holding the keys to this prison/classroom for a long time. Not the Rothschilds/Illuminati bunch, they are the fronts and lick-spittle. The true controllers do not attract too much attention to themselves. The game was designed to teach us how to be mature entities such that we can enter the adult spiritual playground. I'm sure when we came here willingly that we all thought we could beat the game. Once you start playing you are in till you win. Like the TV series "The Prisoner". What we did not know is these Bloodlines have been very good at keeping the secret under wraps. The Bloodlines had no intention of ascending. (Better to be the masters of hell then a lackey in heaven) They just incestuously incarnate in the same lines lifetime after lifetime maintaining firm control of the door.

They might want to re-think that now...

If you look around, there are a bunch of us playing the game now, almost the limit of what the game can handle. Although, a few of us documented the procedure the work was permitted, under the rules of the game, to be confiscated and kept under wraps. The Bloodlines do have to share portions of Divine Law with certain people to maintain control but not before the screen candidates have been effectively bound to contract i.e. Freemasons etc.

I am very old and I was one of those creeps but I changed. I was determined to know the Divine Law within the game and escape but not before I passed these keys off to any and all who are interested in leaving. My wife was helping me and she won't leave until the door is propped open.

Under the rules, what was required, is as it has always been: we must discover this Divine Law independent of the Bloodline control hierarchy and without being rubbed out before that is accomplished. In my case I had to have a nature that rejected all forms of man's authority. I had to be stubborn to a fault and an incredible narcissist. I had to be curious. My ego set things up such that I was made to run away from things. Little did I know that, in reality, I was set up to run toward "something". I was completely ignorant of this and more importantly, those who had it in their minds to thwart the effort could not detect what was going on until I wore the protective mantle. I had no clue what was going on and I really had no choice in the matter, as this has been the culmination of a whole host of work by entities in and outside of the game. It is too late. I have the Toonooki Suit on and I have been waiting for the GO signal.

Looking back, it was all right there in front of my face and I just could not see it. I beat my head against the wall continuously in my early life. I did not find the Grail willingly. I was literally dragged to it. We are about to participate in a grand harvest of experience. It is all as it was designed to be and all have played their parts beautifully.

"We're putting the band back together..."

What is about to happen next will be exciting beyond measure. Oh, the punks are going to try their sh_t but that is necessary also. The game cannot sustain much more of an increase in the number of players. Those that die now will have to "get it" on their next pass but there will be fewer and fewer of us and the people left are going to notice that a lot of us are not returning. However the planetary ascension sequence will be set into motion. This is the true nature of the "rapture" and it is not quite going down as described or interpreted. Maybe it is, hmmmm, I have to think about that some more.

The "spoken word" revelation I got Sunday Morning is going to start creating ripples. The pages on the site contain a concentrated amount of Divine Truth and Divine Law. I realize some of it is a bit jumbled and cryptic. Especially the old stuff. I know it works because I use some of it in my personal sessions and it works when audible. People have "snapped on" while I was talking to them. It did not get a lot of traffic because, quite frankly, it was not permitted to be exposed until it contained un-stoppable power through Divine Law. I was oblivious as I tried and tried to get people there to the site to read. They would read the articles to themselves and of course nothing would happen because thoughts are powerless without the tangible effect the sound vibrations produce. I was flummoxed (on purpose) but I simply did as I was led to do without condition.

Originally, "Holy" scripture contained these kinds of Truth and Law, that when spoken, would cause "magik" to happen. This Truth and Law was removed from scripture, hidden, jumbled or encoded to the point where people could no longer speak the power in the words or comprehend the law. It now only produces a slight manageable effect well within the Bloodline's control. That is true for other esoteric wisdom that is permitted out into the mainstream. More importantly people lost the power to initiate the audience sequence with the Big One.

Remember, Religion allows you to be free only after you die and the exploitation of the death communication barrier worked well to maintain the ruse and maintain control. It defects people from really looking for true freedom in their lives.

We are well into the new paradigm and the pieces are falling into place. The more people read the pages on the site, out loud, the more the effect will grow. The effect will feed back on itself and begin to compound at a geometric rate. At a critical threshold the energy state of the Earth will begin to be affected and it will increase in vibrational energy.

When it is done the Earth will pass through to the fifth dimension. Transiting through the 4th dimension will be challenging for most, as "demons" abide there. We call them extra-terrestrials. The Earth will remain there only so long as it serves a good purpose and it will be a quickening for those of the correct disposition.

I know I am not the only one. There are others. This is a massive cooperative effort. The minority is in line with Divine Law and therefore can have the power of the Supreme Authority mustered on their behalf.

"Something is coming, something wonderful..."

I love this game!

Love,

Roage

p.s. Ghosts are those of us that cannot ascend and don't want to incarnate until the game is fixed. They know if they run to the light they end up in the delivery room and have to start the nonsense all over again. They are building up in number too. It makes great TV!

ex sheep
22-09-2009, 09:16 AM
Wow !
this has blown my mind, especially of what I've been shown in the last day or so.
Have to go, so many things to learn :)

particlepopup
22-09-2009, 10:09 AM
I think blowing of the mind is an underestimation, its more an atomizing of the mind, for the past few years and more its been building up like a rocket uses its stages, each new day brings some marvelous laugh out loud senario and all you can do is shake your head at its awe, make the connection and become happier, i think what roage is showing us a few will say "i get it" they are meant to anyway, maybe its the final thruster stage that we have been looking for, and as is said we may have been seeking truth but in the end its truth that finds us, id like to thank roage for being able to articulate so well that which some of us already knew but werent able to (yet maybe) i know he will say it isnt mine to articulate and i understand but still it was your task and i am grateful.:)

relax
22-09-2009, 04:47 PM
roage have you seen this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rq3s0u73Oes&feature=related

If so thoughts? I just listened to his Coast to Coast AM interview and my mind was pretty blown, it puts things in a physical and scientific perspective which I think is important also for people. The vid above seems to be covering the same info in greater detail and more fluently, I dont remember any speak of the 5th dimension in his C2C interview only that we would shift into the 4th which differs from what you've said, will come back here when ive watched it all.

roage
22-09-2009, 05:43 PM
I think blowing of the mind is an underestimation, its more an atomizing of the mind, for the past few years and more its been building up like a rocket uses its stages, each new day brings some marvelous laugh out loud senario and all you can do is shake your head at its awe, make the connection and become happier, i think what roage is showing us a few will say "i get it" they are meant to anyway, maybe its the final thruster stage that we have been looking for, and as is said we may have been seeking truth but in the end its truth that finds us, id like to thank roage for being able to articulate so well that which some of us already knew but werent able to (yet maybe) i know he will say it isnt mine to articulate and i understand but still it was your task and i am grateful.:)

You should have been chosen to articulate the material as you are certainly more deft at expression than I.

nectars
22-09-2009, 06:12 PM
roage have you seen this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rq3s0u73Oes&feature=related

If so thoughts? I just listened to his Coast to Coast AM interview and my mind was pretty blown, it puts things in a physical and scientific perspective which I think is important also for people. The vid above seems to be covering the same info in greater detail and more fluently, I dont remember any speak of the 5th dimension in his C2C interview only that we would shift into the 4th which differs from what you've said, will come back here when ive watched it all.

Theres alot of good info on there though I'd be careful when dealing with their predictions. I do believe they have got alot of the info correct, but if you muscle test the Maya(also the aztec and inca) with applied kinesiology you go weak, so somethings not right there.

relax
22-09-2009, 08:09 PM
Theres alot of good info on there though I'd be careful when dealing with their predictions. I do believe they have got alot of the info correct, but if you muscle test the Maya(also the aztec and inca) with applied kinesiology you go weak, so somethings not right there.

Sorry what do you mean?

alchemiser
22-09-2009, 08:50 PM
Theres alot of good info on there though I'd be careful when dealing with their predictions. I do believe they have got alot of the info correct, but if you muscle test the Maya(also the aztec and inca) with applied kinesiology you go weak, so somethings not right there.

Murderers of Children will out nectars :(

The Maya just like the Aztecs & the modern Illuminati are doing all sacrificed children to their own versions of Satan.

I believe that is why the Maya are telling everyone to just sit back & wait for a false version of ascension where we all become one great hole. :rolleyes:

The Hopi's version of the end time is much more like the Bible, full of death & destruction. :D

roage
22-09-2009, 09:45 PM
> Gee Roger you're going to x out my name.....is it over for me then? r
> u protecting the innocent me? Me innocent? Life is a bit and then
> you're out. Hey we come to learn and when we have learned enough we
> don't have to come back. But what is next in the 4th and 5th ....more
> learning, a continuance of the game? In this the third, much like cells
> of the body or species of mother nature time limits and a specific range
> of conditions (acid-base-neutrality) the water- carbon dance thru
> light, which vibratory beat infuses life and being into the "battle"
> which should be "Love" of life? The understanding that all can be
> accomplished when allowed....don't believe it... watch mother nature, of
> which, even when misguided, man is a part.
> Instantaneous communications which the neurons interupt no interpret
> well sort out into an understanding exceptable to your vibratory
> patternings....and this great excitement is it a sudden enlightenment
> for all or but the cummulation of some great grand battle of sides
> within the game? And understanding of all is.... yes some acid or base
> or neutral... man woman child... mineral animal plant...solid liquid
> gas...states between and beyond.....still all a part of the whole. An
> awakening of and for all or just another power shift seperation into
> sides in the continuation of the game. Or does this game hold some
> unknown unforseen unperceived purpose in the universal order? " I
> LOVE"... this game is but a part.... be aware of the stickiness of the
> thrill and rush and excitement R


Dear Richard,

Richard I know you know "Richard" is your label here in this place. Nothing more.

There is only One in play. All the false opposites are a necessary means to an end. It is not wrong or right at that level.

The insane man requires the sane man.

The sane man requires the insane man.

It is in this way we can observe objectively the results of particular tendencies whereby, in the end, when the effects are measured and quantified, a judgment will be made on which direction serves best the whole.

Mass-murders and the many victims serve a wonderful constructive purpose in that we can learn objectively by example.

Here when death is not finality we can entertain all aspects without suffering a permanent fatality.

What we learn and when we learn it can not be viewed as "correct" or "incorrect" or "good" or "evil" as we are taught that which serves us best at the time that serves us best. We must accept that holding, what might be viewed by the myopic, as "incorrect" is necessary so that we can transition closer to the fundamental Truth. This is because a leap directly to the Truth would be such a tremendously abrupt change that would instantiate such a negative effect as to destroy the student.

It is this moderated slow evolutionary conversion to the Truth that serves the best objective.

We must accept that what we are taught this moment may change the next and the contrast of perhaps completely contradictory "facts" are necessary, in that the contrast itself is a lesson.

Those who have not begun this process are as valuable to the process as those that have. This contrast will give us objective experience such that logic will dictate the prudent course. We should cherish them as equals, have compassion and respect for the sacrifices they are made to offer.

The ascension process can be viewed as a circumcision.

As Robin Williams once said "There is no partial circumcision. You either go all the way or you f--king forget it!"

The One cannot be separated into parts although the facets are many the One moves in unison and this evolution of consciousness will be universal in totality.

However, the body and the ego will have to remain in the cloakroom as they cannot enter the hall.

The One never stops. It continues to new experiences and new lessons will inevitably begin.

Here we practice with virtual power perhaps the next phase is the expression and exercise of true power.

One will decide when One decides.

The small part I have played is a labor of laziness. I do not want to have exert energy second guessing the "correctness" of my thoughts and actions. I simply expose a method through the power of contract such that I need not expend my energy to protect me from myself. On its face, it is lazy but it frees me from worry, fear and allows me to devote all my energy to acquiring wisdom, knowledge and love.

When I was at the age of consent and for me I was 12, I thought if I could build a machine that could build machines that could build machines I could have all I needed.

I began recognizing that these type of viral recursive processes already existed in a number of stark and obvious forms.

Initially Civilization and the grouping of people into cities and towns made it possible for the replication of more cities and towns.

Religion is itself recursive and not only grew to dominate the mind of man but actually mutated in to a myriad of different forms each competing for its share of the mind.

Its twin Government, is also a form of Religion, in that, its effect is control of the mind and the effect is a deprivation of individual freedom.

The late arrival is Science that produced the acquisition of knowledge that led to the acceleration of an acquisition of knowledge.

The virus that allows us to acquire wisdom encompasses all the other recursive mechanisms.

Science has demonstrated that knowledge is an unfulfillable hole that expands the hole and merely complicates our existence.

A valuable lesson

Religion teaches us the value of the One by creating and absence of the One or a "false one" with no power.

A valuable lesson

Civilization taught us that harnessing mother nature binds us to our own shackles.

A valuable lesson

Government taught us the value of freedom by enslaving us all.

Again a valuable lesson.

Absolute freedom if desired operates beyond the realm of "morality" and has in its inherent expression both the choice of self-continuation and self-destruction.

If a being has judged that continuation is the course it chooses then there must be in place rigid principles or laws that prohibit free choices that lead to self-destruction. It requires an experimental testbed to determine which choices lead inevitably to which outcome. One would not simply do this without first ensuring that One's self is not fully protected. What we see around us is one of these "experiments". Here One can end without ending, die without dying and go wrong without going wrong.

This brings us full circle to what is about to happen. This experiment has very nearly run its course. We begin the phase of analyzing the data. To that end we need to again apply the mind without the distraction of the experiment itself such that proper judgment can be made based on the data.

The re-assembly of the fragmented consciousness has begun but it must be done in such way that it not destroy or pervert the data that has been acquired. It is a methodical process that cannot be done abruptly as the intent is to glean every last bit of knowledge and wisdom from the collective experience.

It is imperative that the laws required such that we choose continuation is re-established in the collective consciousness. It has begun and it has been slow at first. It is now accelerating until the law becomes the dominant conscious expression again. It cannot be done uniformly as there remain components of the experiment that are still running and require the unhampered attention of the remaining individuated facets (egos if you will) within their specific objectives. These individuated facets, whose experimental contribution has ended, are being moved into the analysis phase. We will have to be patient and wait for the others to, in turn, conclude their objectives such that they can be methodically moved up this new level.

What this body refers to as "The Holy Grail Law" is a self-replicating recursive tool that when implemented returns, One, one facet at a time, to the point of self-regulated autonomous conformance with the principles that provide for continuation.

It is done through the power of contract with the One/Self itself as the creation of victims is the primary course that leads to self-destruction, most notably the infliction of damage on One's self by One's self. One needs protection from it self.

"I will trust you (One/Self) without condition if you (One/Self) remove from me (One/Self) my (One's/Self's) power to create a victim"

It is a self-instantiating, self-actuated, self-regulating and self-empowering real manifestation of power and control to ensure that power is not directed against One's own self.

Before a facet can have this mechanism enforced the facet must know what is involved in making that choice. Not that it is imposed or a standard it must labor to meet but because the power is expressed through contract and the nature of contract itself is that it must be willingly accepted to have force in law. Therefore the party or parties must be completely notified of the terms such that the choice is truly willing. The entire exercise itself is symbolic and is a proxy for what is actually taking place. It is the removal of destructive tendency from a facet by its willing consent.

It must occur this way. If it is forced then it violates the objective integrity of the facet's experiential data.

Once a facet is notified that the protection is in force then the facet is placed in such a state that it exists without being subject to potentially destructive interaction with surrounding facets. This also protects the experiential data.

The effect on the facet is that it remains in a state of bliss and begins to slowly awaken to the nature of the experiment.

If a facet chooses to refuse the contract then the effect of a lack of protection will ensue such that the facet experiences life with no protection and the consequences of that choice. A facet must know that those consequences are of a "uncomfortable" nature and are also instantiated as a function of a willing refusal and willing choice.

This is by far the most detailed expression that this Roage facet has produced to date.

When glimpsed by other facets its effect will be profound.

Last night, I experienced a vision, It was a waking dream. It occurred when I made contract with the One to be "shown the magik". Since I set into being my "Declaration of Sovereignty and Independence" it included the words "I agree" as it is now required as a part of any real contract that I can make.

The vision began as a flower of striated pink hues. This flower opened into another flower of the same color. This flower opened to reveal a third. Each flower moving up a level each flower higher then the one that came before. When the third and last last flower opened a bright yellow brilliantly illuminated stamen grew that appeared as two female hands holding an object in prayer. When the hands parted towards me the hands held a long rounded cobalt crystal pointed on both ends. It glowed brightly with a deep dark blue light. The flowers fell away to reveal a beautiful female form. She then carefully pushed the crystal exactly into me in the area of my mind's eye. I was then instructed that the crystal was a tool to help me.

Now, I see more clearly.

What is contained here is part of what I see.

When people realize the impact, the effect will be mind-boggling.

Richard! Good heavens! What has been done!?

Love,

Roage

snapdragon
22-09-2009, 09:48 PM
I think I have read all this in the book of Zohar (Kabbalah)

deckard666
22-09-2009, 10:48 PM
Eh... DID you read it or did you just think you read it? And if you did what's with it? Don't let us die clueless here ;)

roage
22-09-2009, 11:45 PM
Within the Work by Frank Herbert there exist some powerful symbolism.

Symbols are the method of true communication and a means of expressing power. Words bring manifestation of symbols in our minds. We seldom awaken to the true power of the spoken word and its power to create symbols. We once understood this "magical" power of words. We will again realize why we continue to "spell" them.

Often the movies we enjoy contains a few fragments of Truth. They intersperse it to dilute its power.

In Dune:

Reverend Mother Ramallo:
"And now the prophesy:
One will come, the voice from the outer world. Bringing the Holy War, the Jihad, which will cleanse the Universe and bring us out of darkness."

Jihad: "effort or struggle"

Stilgar:
"Take the Kiswa Maker hook of our seech and ride as a leader of men"

It is a symbol of something that makes one King.

Duke Leto Atreides:
"...A person needs new experiences. They jar something, deep inside, allowing him to grow. Without change something sleeps inside us...and seldom awakens. The sleeper must awaken."

The "Kwi- satz Haderach" is a Hebrew term that means a "different or new path or way"

On the front page of the roage.com site you will see this Hebrew word:

תזךל קיצוך

This identifies the purpose of the site to reveal a new path or way.

At the bottom of the Contents Page you will find a picture of a spear.

The Goddess Athena carried a spear. "The Spear of Truth" and when she was dispensing the Truth she would shake her spear.

There was a group effort to try to teach the law to the people in parable. They took as their name this symbol. They "shake the spear" or Shakespeare.

Shakespeare is a lesson in Divine Law but we were not ready. Are we ready now?

We have been groomed for the time we find ourselves in. It has been a slow and methodical droning just under our collective conscious awareness. The Divine Law is already within and we merely need to awaken it and bring it into our waking consciousness.

As far as the "One who will come" The Hopi elders have an old saying: "we are the ones we've been waiting for."

We are in the first stages of the Great Revealing or "Revelation".

Everyone has secretly known this was coming and we have perverted it into a dreadful thing.

Apocalypse means "leather mask or leather covering". The Apocalypse covers and conceals the Truth. When this leather covering is pulled away it will reveal the Truth. What is the leather cover?

It is the flesh mask and flesh suit we all wear. We are about to know the Truth.

What is the Truth?

Yoda:
"Luminous beings are we, not this crude matter"

In fact the entire Star Wars saga is a perfect metaphor for the United States.

In the end, even Darth Vader was redeemed and yes he did what was said of him. He returned balance back to the Force.

In the end we too will all make the correct choices as that is the way of things.

We have really no choice.

Just something to think about.

Roage

roage
23-09-2009, 12:10 AM
roage have you seen this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rq3s0u73Oes&feature=related

If so thoughts? I just listened to his Coast to Coast AM interview and my mind was pretty blown, it puts things in a physical and scientific perspective which I think is important also for people. The vid above seems to be covering the same info in greater detail and more fluently, I dont remember any speak of the 5th dimension in his C2C interview only that we would shift into the 4th which differs from what you've said, will come back here when ive watched it all.

I will watch it tonight with my wife

swift44
23-09-2009, 12:15 AM
Hi XXX,

Why was Tommy the pinball wizard?

Well, he played by intuition and that made him a damn sight more skilled at this game then most!

The "dumb" label was just warped perception. Right-brain is King!

I am posting this on the David Icke Forum. I will XXX out your name.

Just remember it is always darkest right before it goes pitch black :D

You might want to read this aloud:

I want to share with you some revelations from my Sunday morning meeting with the Big One.

The communications happen almost instantaneously but it takes a while for the old neuron to spread the cards out on the table correctly.

The true Bloodlines have been holding the keys to this prison/classroom for a long time. Not the Rothschilds/Illuminati bunch, they are the fronts and lick-spittle. The true controllers do not attract too much attention to themselves. The game was designed to teach us how to be mature entities such that we can enter the adult spiritual playground. I'm sure when we came here willingly that we all thought we could beat the game. Once you start playing you are in till you win. Like the TV series "The Prisoner". What we did not know is these Bloodlines have been very good at keeping the secret under wraps. The Bloodlines had no intention of ascending. (Better to be the masters of hell then a lackey in heaven) They just incestuously incarnate in the same lines lifetime after lifetime maintaining firm control of the door.

They might want to re-think that now...

If you look around, there are a bunch of us playing the game now, almost the limit of what the game can handle. Although, a few of us documented the procedure the work was permitted, under the rules of the game, to be confiscated and kept under wraps. The Bloodlines do have to share portions of Divine Law with certain people to maintain control but not before the screen candidates have been effectively bound to contract i.e. Freemasons etc.

I am very old and I was one of those creeps but I changed. I was determined to know the Divine Law within the game and escape but not before I passed these keys off to any and all who are interested in leaving. My wife was helping me and she won't leave until the door is propped open.

Under the rules, what was required, is as it has always been: we must discover this Divine Law independent of the Bloodline control hierarchy and without being rubbed out before that is accomplished. In my case I had to have a nature that rejected all forms of man's authority. I had to be stubborn to a fault and an incredible narcissist. I had to be curious. My ego set things up such that I was made to run away from things. Little did I know that, in reality, I was set up to run toward "something". I was completely ignorant of this and more importantly, those who had it in their minds to thwart the effort could not detect what was going on until I wore the protective mantle. I had no clue what was going on and I really had no choice in the matter, as this has been the culmination of a whole host of work by entities in and outside of the game. It is too late. I have the Toonooki Suit on and I have been waiting for the GO signal.

Looking back, it was all right there in front of my face and I just could not see it. I beat my head against the wall continuously in my early life. I did not find the Grail willingly. I was literally dragged to it. We are about to participate in a grand harvest of experience. It is all as it was designed to be and all have played their parts beautifully.

"We're putting the band back together..."

What is about to happen next will be exciting beyond measure. Oh, the punks are going to try their sh_t but that is necessary also. The game cannot sustain much more of an increase in the number of players. Those that die now will have to "get it" on their next pass but there will be fewer and fewer of us and the people left are going to notice that a lot of us are not returning. However the planetary ascension sequence will be set into motion. This is the true nature of the "rapture" and it is not quite going down as described or interpreted. Maybe it is, hmmmm, I have to think about that some more.

The "spoken word" revelation I got Sunday Morning is going to start creating ripples. The pages on the site contain a concentrated amount of Divine Truth and Divine Law. I realize some of it is a bit jumbled and cryptic. Especially the old stuff. I know it works because I use some of it in my personal sessions and it works when audible. People have "snapped on" while I was talking to them. It did not get a lot of traffic because, quite frankly, it was not permitted to be exposed until it contained un-stoppable power through Divine Law. I was oblivious as I tried and tried to get people there to the site to read. They would read the articles to themselves and of course nothing would happen because thoughts are powerless without the tangible effect the sound vibrations produce. I was flummoxed (on purpose) but I simply did as I was led to do without condition.

Originally, "Holy" scripture contained these kinds of Truth and Law, that when spoken, would cause "magik" to happen. This Truth and Law was removed from scripture, hidden, jumbled or encoded to the point where people could no longer speak the power in the words or comprehend the law. It now only produces a slight manageable effect well within the Bloodline's control. That is true for other esoteric wisdom that is permitted out into the mainstream. More importantly people lost the power to initiate the audience sequence with the Big One.

Remember, Religion allows you to be free only after you die and the exploitation of the death communication barrier worked well to maintain the ruse and maintain control. It defects people from really looking for true freedom in their lives.

We are well into the new paradigm and the pieces are falling into place. The more people read the pages on the site, out loud, the more the effect will grow. The effect will feed back on itself and begin to compound at a geometric rate. At a critical threshold the energy state of the Earth will begin to be affected and it will increase in vibrational energy.

When it is done the Earth will pass through to the fifth dimension. Transiting through the 4th dimension will be challenging for most, as "demons" abide there. We call them extra-terrestrials. The Earth will remain there only so long as it serves a good purpose and it will be a quickening for those of the correct disposition.

I know I am not the only one. There are others. This is a massive cooperative effort. The minority is in line with Divine Law and therefore can have the power of the Supreme Authority mustered on their behalf.

"Something is coming, something wonderful..."

I love this game!

Love,

Roage

p.s. Ghosts are those of us that cannot ascend and don't want to incarnate until the game is fixed. They know if they run to the light they end up in the delivery room and have to start the nonsense all over again. They are building up in number too. It makes great TV!

So they've been doing this since the start eh,not accending ,reincarnating to rule, and having the law re explained to them back in the bloodline, this should just end with them recarnating and not finding the law and being absorbed in the end. A perfect Irony. :mad:

roage
23-09-2009, 12:17 AM
Murderers of Children will out nectars :(

The Maya just like the Aztecs & the modern Illuminati are doing all sacrificed children to their own versions of Satan.

I believe that is why the Maya are telling everyone to just sit back & wait for a false version of ascension where we all become one great hole. :rolleyes:

The Hopi's version of the end time is much more like the Bible, full of death & destruction. :D

Funny thing about "evil". Its use has always been to scare people from something.

It is time we accept that omnipotent means omnipotent or we are not intellectually honest. Can Satan, Rex Mundi, or Dick Cheney have any power against me if I trust [Your word for the Supreme Authority here] without condition? What could be said of a perfect [Your word for the Supreme Authority here] if it cannot itself keep its word and betrays that trust?

Can it be truly viewed as murder if we choose that experience voluntarily?

If that is the true nature of [Your word for the Supreme Authority here] then perhaps we are looking at things wrong?http://www.davidicke.com/forum/images/smilies/cool.gif

roage
23-09-2009, 12:20 AM
I think I have read all this in the book of Zohar (Kabbalah)

Hmmm, I have never read it. Could I be under the spell of Jewish magicians?

Or is there a singular realization we are all moving toward?

Which part the material on the site or in the forum?

Were you able to initiate the audience sequence?

roage
23-09-2009, 12:25 AM
Theres alot of good info on there though I'd be careful when dealing with their predictions. I do believe they have got alot of the info correct, but if you muscle test the Maya(also the aztec and inca) with applied kinesiology you go weak, so somethings not right there.

Ah one who employs a methodology to by-pass the ego and consult the self.

Good plan!

I think we are chasing down the possibilities to eliminate them such that we can all arrive at the Truth.

Perhaps, like me, dragged kicking and screaming. :D

roage
23-09-2009, 06:42 AM
Sorry what do you mean?

Google muscle testing it is a means to by pass the ego and the body to talk with the self directly. It has worked for me and the wife.

We watched the flick. The details are not important and they will coalesce when we begin advancing. We can however expect a full accounting of history as it is an not as it was written.

As far as the Maya they certainly did not corner the market on human atrocity. Whenever a group of people get together a whole bunch of confusion ensues.

The great thing about this is the paradigm change and the switch from left-brain to right brain thinking is you start seeing why things are. I now spend most of my time in the right-brain and it is great over here.

Before I switched sides I was like most people an ego-twinkie that was afraid of every made-up story that some goof-ball cooked up on the net.

All that I learned about law and life occurred after that point of change and my capacity for assimilating information has increased geometrically. Even technical left-brained information because when there is a reason or purpose for knowing something it requires only a single reinforcement pass to learn it. You don't have to study hard to incorporate new info.

Here is a neat test for anyone who does not which side of the brain they are operating from

Braintest (http://www.roage.com/short.asp?ShortID=34)

The other thing is he advises self-exploration and the suppression of fear and ego. Your body could die but that is not the end.

That should be objective 1 for everyone. People with no fear are happy, live longer and meet people who are less confused. They are not as prone to programmatic Hegelian dialectic manipulation and operate in alpha mode at the shopping center. They spend less and have a better sense for what they really need.

They that look inside begin recognizing themselves in others. They are less judgmental, compassionate and forgiving.

Stress is hard on the metabolism and the immune system.

They have a better chance of attracting a mate.

They don't smell of adrenaline and cortisol.

They tend not to scream and run for their lives.

relax
23-09-2009, 04:29 PM
The great thing about this is the paradigm change and the switch from left-brain to right brain thinking is you start seeing why things are. I now spend most of my time in the right-brain and it is great over here.



So you dont think living through the heart is the key to this process?

wildhorse
23-09-2009, 06:02 PM
roage, what a fascinating thread

it feels simple, yet my mind boggles...think I need to jump into my right hemisphere for a while :rolleyes:

anyway, this contract, I found a spiritual 'God' contract. I posted it up on FOTL sub forum, but will post it here too...Just want to know is it on the same lines as what you write? I feel it is similar, but yours is more in depth and detail...


http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=81846

Ahimsa,
Wild :)

roage
24-09-2009, 06:04 PM
roage, what a fascinating thread

it feels simple, yet my mind boggles...think I need to jump into my right hemisphere for a while :rolleyes:

anyway, this contract, I found a spiritual 'God' contract. I posted it up on FOTL sub forum, but will post it here too...Just want to know is it on the same lines as what you write? I feel it is similar, but yours is more in depth and detail...


http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=81846

Ahimsa,
Wild :)

Thanks Ahimsa

We are of one mind we just don't all realize that yet.

Love

Roger

roage
24-09-2009, 06:11 PM
So you dont think living through the heart is the key to this process?

The right brain is the heart. We just have become distracted by this gray glob in our skulls into thinking the physical brain has anything to do with it.

We must open the female side of the mind for that is the key to our intuition.

The effect of the dominance of the Solar and Saturnian Cults was well known in the effect it would have on the collective consciousness.

We have spent millennia suppressing the female aspect to ensure that we operated in complete ignorance of the Divine.

It has given us an appreciation in that its absence precipitated the negative consequences resulted from this disconnection.

The burning of witches was done in fear in that they were connecting to the Divine where the patriarchs could not.

Allowing this "witchcraft" would have usurped the purpose of the lesson that we are all just becoming aware of now.

It is intuition that gives us the ability to perceive the Divine.

It is the heart that is the channel.

"Luminous beings are we, not this crude matter..."

Yoda

Welcome Home

Love

Roage

particlepopup
24-09-2009, 06:27 PM
Have to tell this one, just today i was driving around and giving thanks for my expriencences and talking aloud asking questions and revealing the answers to myself( which i often do ) and i was taking on all types of synchronistic events and chuckling, as you do, one of the questions i got to was (not in these exact words) what is it that i am experiencing and was looking forward to an audience with the supreme authority, a few minutes pass and a truck pulls in front of me with the logo GRAYLAW.CO.UK. it didnt click at first but the second time i said it i burst out with laughter!! Marvelous!

relax
24-09-2009, 09:22 PM
Have to tell this one, just today i was driving around and giving thanks for my expriencences and talking aloud asking questions and revealing the answers to myself( which i often do ) and i was taking on all types of synchronistic events and chuckling, as you do, one of the questions i got to was (not in these exact words) what is it that i am experiencing and was looking forward to an audience with the supreme authority, a few minutes pass and a truck pulls in front of me with the logo GRAYLAW.CO.UK. it didnt click at first but the second time i said it i burst out with laughter!! Marvelous!

Love it, just like clockwork, the understanding of and the connection is getting stronger and stronger for me each day, and it looks like others too! Good times.

nectars
25-09-2009, 12:51 AM
May seem weird.

The movie the "300" at 09:09mins.

roage
25-09-2009, 03:17 AM
Love it, just like clockwork, the understanding of and the connection is getting stronger and stronger for me each day, and it looks like others too! Good times.

Man this is fun

I am compiling the video presentation. I am not good at this ;)

roage
25-09-2009, 03:20 AM
May seem weird.

The movie the "300" at 09:09mins.

The funning thing is the torture involved in watching it. I does have oracles in it though,

Perhaps the numbers themselves are a warning :D

909 is a mirror number like 1111

leviathanstaar
25-09-2009, 07:19 AM
Video presentation? nice

Servers are busy for the links.

roage
25-09-2009, 08:59 AM
Video presentation? nice

Servers are busy for the links.

Maintenance I suppose it is early in Tennessee. Seems to be up now

I wasted all this time uploading only to find out the video is too long. YouTube is losing it.

It is an hour presentation the dialog is a bit stilted and may be hard to get through. I will see what it takes to host it locally on my servers.

Or break it up into several parts in the morning

leviathanstaar
25-09-2009, 10:04 AM
The writer in the GLP thread states that even print has it's frequency and consequences Roage, where as I took you to mean that only once they become spoken words are they manifest to consequences.

Please clarify the correctness in that.

Also...if we are controlled by religion by all you implicated.....(I agree)

What is this with submission of will to an entity, to gain sovereignty?

The illusionary nature of the enslavers power( I agree) aside, how can we be made to embrace that which screams of the very formula that has led us to the state of affairs we are in?

Maybe I need to get that link working.

Have you ever felt so confused you could just implode and take all that is with you?


Tick.
Tock.

:/

leviathanstaar
25-09-2009, 10:19 AM
Something more about that Insider page: ( I realize that is not you or your work)

This person tells another who is calling him down, my condolences on another lifetime here for saying that.

He/she then proceeds to call people peasant. Haha.

For as much as this person denounces all things ego in regard to responding to these 'peasants' and their various faults, this person is definatly imo regulated by just that.

Insider or not, aware of divine law or not, this person doesnt apply said divine law even in something as simple as responding to the ignorance others.

deckard666
25-09-2009, 08:00 PM
Maintenance I suppose it is early in Tennessee. Seems to be up now

I wasted all this time uploading only to find out the video is too long. YouTube is losing it.

It is an hour presentation the dialog is a bit stilted and may be hard to get through. I will see what it takes to host it locally on my servers.

Or break it up into several parts in the morning

Well let's break it into 2 or more parts. We make a playlist and are done :)

roage
25-09-2009, 11:36 PM
The writer in the GLP thread states that even print has it's frequency and consequences Roage, where as I took you to mean that only once they become spoken words are they manifest to consequences.

Please clarify the correctness in that.

A rock has frequency also but unless someone pickes it up and hits me with it it his happy to lie their minding its own business


Also...if we are controlled by religion by all you implicated.....(I agree)

What is this with submission of will to an entity, to gain sovereignty?

The illusionary nature of the enslavers power( I agree) aside, how can we be made to embrace that which screams of the very formula that has led us to the state of affairs we are in?

Maybe I need to get that link working.




I use submission to relate more toward left-brain thinkers.

It is not a submission to an "entity" it is simply realizing the power the entity already exercises.

Whether we accept that Truth or not. In this way if we avail ourselves and permit the Supreme Authority to do so it is happy to demonstrate that power in our experience.

We have to be willing because the realization will not be forced.



Have you ever felt so confused you could just implode and take all that is with you?

Tick.
Tock.

:/

Absolutely, and the pressure is applied to bring you to a new place. A crucial lesson is being taught to you by your "self". Re-think your assumptions it may be something very easy that you are missing.

Whatever it is, it is important enough for stress to be applied.

It is a good thing.

Roage

roage
26-09-2009, 12:03 AM
Something more about that Insider page: ( I realize that is not you or your work)

This person tells another who is calling him down, my condolences on another lifetime here for saying that.

He/she then proceeds to call people peasant. Haha.

For as much as this person denounces all things ego in regard to responding to these 'peasants' and their various faults, this person is definatly imo regulated by just that.

Insider or not, aware of divine law or not, this person doesnt apply said divine law even in something as simple as responding to the ignorance others.

Excellent! You picked that out!

You are going to have to start referring to "person" only as it applies. Try to remove it from your speech and writing.

The Insider can set himself up as a King over us all we wants. That relationship is not indulged until we choose to make him/her our master.

The Insider knows full well the power of suggestion and that same priciple has be used for centuries against men and women.

Michael Tsarion brought this out poignantly:

The smart man will wake up and ask, "have I been sold a lie?"

The smarter man will ask, "Have I bought a lie?"

A man or entity does not have the power to make you a slave against your will. He must first convince you into giving him that power.

If you have not already seen this I do a treatment of this principle and how it works:

De-Hypnotism (http://www.roage.com/main.asp?PageID=164)

The great thing is you are able to separate Truth from that which is false.

You must know that on my site I cannot keep myself from introducing errors.

People must trust the Supreme Authority to navigate otherwise they place their trust in things they have no business placing their trust in.

I am in no way an exception. It must be this way! We must practice that trust and know that if we fail then we will become bound to assumptions that are not the Truth.

The Religious fall for this trap when reading scripture (See schism) and, quite frankly, have no business reading anything unless their trust is well placed.

There is a principle known that when three agree the are unstoppable.

One needs to understand how that is possible.

The only way three can truly agree is that they are of "one mind". There is only one mind everything else is ego and is "fact" not Truth. That means each has unfettered access to the Truth and therefore acts in strict accordance to Divine Law. When one does this then Divine Law becomes protection and is unassailable as that expression of power is self-evident because its source cannot be challenged. When Three do this it is awesome in its effect.

roage
26-09-2009, 12:07 AM
Well let's break it into 2 or more parts. We make a playlist and are done :)

I am working hard but new things came to me and must be included. I am breaking everything up unfortunately some of my audio clips are longer then 9 minutes and I have to do the old post production routine.

I should have this this weekend as the wife is out of the house and I have time to work.

deckard666
26-09-2009, 01:56 AM
I am not putting any pressure on you here ;)

I myself fight how to deal with all this in german. Someone more talented for this should have arrived here. I am progressing slowly right now. Good moments ... and far too many empty sheet of paper moments.

roage
26-09-2009, 07:01 AM
I am not putting any pressure on you here ;)

I myself fight how to deal with all this in german. Someone more talented for this should have arrived here. I am progressing slowly right now. Good moments ... and far too many empty sheet of paper moments.

The task is yours as like no other way you will become very familiar with the material

nectars
26-09-2009, 09:56 AM
The funning thing is the torture involved in watching it. I does have oracles in it though,

Perhaps the numbers themselves are a warning :D

909 is a mirror number like 1111

Yehh I agree, its not an easy one and I actually found I couldn't watch it as it got further into the movie. Very harsh.

roage
26-09-2009, 05:23 PM
Yehh I agree, its not an easy one and I actually found I couldn't watch it as it got further into the movie. Very harsh.

There is really nothing like a long tortuous, bloody, mangling of history to get the hypnotized juices flowing. It just stirs you and makes you want to fight or foment a revolt or something or maybe vomit. They are kind of the same I guess.

I wonder if the confused realized they died in the end?

roage
27-09-2009, 09:50 PM
Hi Gang,

It is a rough draft and it shows:

Divine Law And The Holy Grail Part 1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kfm3oBBaruY)
Divine Law And The Holy Grail Part 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yc4NAafMvqM)
Divine Law And The Holy Grail Part 3 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7PL4qeSOnyQ)
Divine Law And The Holy Grail Part 4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aWmQRY7qBE8)
Divine Law And The Holy Grail Part 5 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zYmyIM07qbE)
Divine Law And The Holy Grail Part 6 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7QkDOHLLa7U)
Divine Law And The Holy Grail Part 7 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ku8nl2kM7BI)
Divine Law And The Holy Grail Part 8 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QctxPQBBOf4)

If you have graphic suggestions I am all ears but they need to be free and clear.

particlepopup
28-09-2009, 09:51 AM
Woo hoo!! Cant wait to watch it, Cheers:)

deckard666
28-09-2009, 10:04 PM
Wow that's definitely your best medium to express your message. There's the power of words.

Unfortunately Part 6 is gone from the server. So I am stuck :(

roage
29-09-2009, 02:37 AM
Wow that's definitely your best medium to express your message. There's the power of words.

Unfortunately Part 6 is gone from the server. So I am stuck :(

Here is a revised list.

I did some editing:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gILQuRsYJ3I
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yc4NAafMvqM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4tI7AsSOwg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aWmQRY7qBE8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zYmyIM07qbE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CXAbRQ82EmE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ku8nl2kM7BI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QctxPQBBOf4

ex sheep
29-09-2009, 10:28 AM
At the moment, all I can say is WOW !

roage
29-09-2009, 04:58 PM
At the moment, all I can say is WOW !

The indication I got is that it is going to begin building.

particlepopup
29-09-2009, 06:00 PM
The indication I got is that it is going to begin building.

I think your're right, spot on!:)

roage
29-09-2009, 06:13 PM
I think your're right, spot on!:)

It may be slow at first as more and more people assimilate it and share it will have an effect. No doubt it will not be without controversy.

They nail people to doors and trees for this kind of thing. :D

particlepopup
29-09-2009, 06:18 PM
[QUOTE=roage;1058294672]It may be slow at first as more and more people assimilate it and share it will have an effect. No doubt it will not be without controversy.

They nail people to doors and trees for this kind of thing. :D[/QUOTE

Im sure you have a claw hammer tucked away somewhere in yer britches:eek:

roage
29-09-2009, 06:20 PM
[QUOTE=roage;1058294672]It may be slow at first as more and more people assimilate it and share it will have an effect. No doubt it will not be without controversy.

They nail people to doors and trees for this kind of thing. :D[/QUOTE

Im sure you have a claw hammer tucked away somewhere in yer britches:eek:

Not an Estwing but a decent framing hammer and a 10 lb sledge.

ex sheep
29-09-2009, 06:36 PM
Don't you folks start without me, I'm nearly there, I can sense it.

roage
29-09-2009, 06:50 PM
Don't you folks start without me, I'm nearly there, I can sense it.

Its a trip huh?

I started a new thread with the presentation as the first post.

We'll see what happens:

Know The Grail Law! Video Presentation (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?p=1058294756#post1058294756)

wildhorse
29-09-2009, 07:12 PM
roage, this is one of those synchronicities again :rolleyes:

been reading about this, bought the Blacks Law dictionary to take back my power, but what you have done there with them vids is very in depth yet bloody simple! Thats what we need, as one, to get 'it'.

When I re-do my website, I shall post them vids up to get the message out and about. ;)

thank you so much for the time and effort that musta took :)

roage
29-09-2009, 07:20 PM
roage, this is one of those synchronicities again :rolleyes:

been reading about this, bought the Blacks Law dictionary to take back my power, but what you have done there with them vids is very in depth yet bloody simple! Thats what we need, as one, to get 'it'.

When I re-do my website, I shall post them vids up to get the message out and about. ;)

thank you so much for the time and effort that musta took :)

Thank-you for your effort. The faster we expose this the better things will be.

Wouldn't be nice if we all went through the energy change fully aware of the great thing that is happening. We could just walk way from the nonsense and return to the time when we were whole again. There is no reason why the world cannot be fun and easy again.

wildhorse
29-09-2009, 07:35 PM
Wouldn't be nice if we all went through the energy change fully aware of the great thing that is happening. We could just walk way from the nonsense and return to the time when we were whole again. There is no reason why the world cannot be fun and easy again.

absolutely agreed....maybe this is the time

oh Bill Hicks would be singing in his grave :D

deckard666
29-09-2009, 10:39 PM
Don't you folks start without me, I'm nearly there, I can sense it.

Now THAT and your avatar just fit perfect :D

roage
29-09-2009, 10:46 PM
Now THAT and your avatar just fit perfect :D

Just a golden cup of easy! :D

ex sheep
29-09-2009, 11:12 PM
I'm off to bed now folks, I wonder what's in store for me, last night blew my socks of, well its getting cold here now. :)

roage
29-09-2009, 11:26 PM
I'm off to bed now folks, I wonder what's in store for me, last night blew my socks of, well its getting cold here now. :)

Well put your socks back on and go to bed :D

ex sheep
29-09-2009, 11:36 PM
Well put your socks back on and go to bed :D

:D

I have been fleeced, and yes I'm feeling it, bbbbrrrr

but hey, its not real money. :cool: so I aint worried :)

deckard666
29-09-2009, 11:40 PM
It just occured to me that this is the most peaceful thread I ever read. Did you notice? People come in ask and if it is not what they look for they go. Some folks stay and friendly discuss. But there's no one questioning or trying to speak against it.

Or maybe I have read too many "violent" threads lately ...

roage
29-09-2009, 11:47 PM
It just occured to me that this is the most peaceful thread I ever read. Did you notice? People come in ask and if it is not what they look for they go. Some folks stay and friendly discuss. But there's no one questioning or trying to speak against it.

Or maybe I have read too many "violent" threads lately ...

Get used to it :D

wildhorse
29-09-2009, 11:48 PM
It just occured to me that this is the most peaceful thread I ever read. Did you notice? People come in ask and if it is not what they look for they go. Some folks stay and friendly discuss. But there's no one questioning or trying to speak against it.

Or maybe I have read too many "violent" threads lately ...

guess truth and love have no need to clatter and bang

def a nice peaceful thread, mmmm mmmmm mmmmmm *ahhhh*

roage
30-09-2009, 07:05 PM
guess truth and love have no need to clatter and bang

def a nice peaceful thread, mmmm mmmmm mmmmmm *ahhhh*

But do we not learn by conflict, pain and failure?

Is there not a way to learn by positive reinforcement?

Why we cannot put weight to a thing that does not hurt or is easy is a great thing to ponder.

I have enough of this suffering and welcome lessons which are their own reward like being helpful and kind.

I agree there are some uncomfortable energies about. Who are these folks that incite conflict and why does one get suckered into it? I think it is our need and compassion. We feel we need to help the confused and therefore offer assistance. The confused do not desire our help as they see us as the confused. The nature of confusion is that the confused are the last to realize their state. I am content to allow the confused to find their own way as the self has placed them exactly where it wants them.

I say dispense with all that compassion and concentrate on one's self. I try to do this and I find that, to improve my state, is to instill in others an urgency to improve their state. It is an act of selfishness. One gets love by giving it away. One is free by allowing others to be free.

It is "self" ishness. As far as the "ego", I have an old one I am willing to sell. It is strong, tenacious but it could use a good coat of paint.

deckard666
30-09-2009, 07:23 PM
That was the answer I was looking for ... that I needed right now ;)

We feel we need to help the confused and therefore offer assistance. The confused do not desire our help as they see us as the confused. The nature of confusion is that the confused are the last to realize their state.Tat "failsafe" really sucks ;) It works perfect. Ok no more missionary experiments and wasted energy.

Instead I will post the video links in another forum and see what happens. If you don't mind Roage.

roage
30-09-2009, 07:36 PM
That was the answer I was looking for ... that I needed right now ;)

Tat "failsafe" really sucks ;) It works perfect. Ok no more missionary experiments and wasted energy.

Instead I will post the video links in another forum and see what happens. If you don't mind Roage.

You do not need my permission. Remember if one asks permission it is assumed you need permission.

You cannot create a victim of me.

Follow your bliss That is your only obligation. Trust in the "self" is, in itself, following your bliss. :D

deckard666
30-09-2009, 09:25 PM
Ok posted.

Yes Roage you are so right about authority.

But I am handicapped ... I am German.

We LOVE authority. We NEED authority. Nobody teached us how to get along ALONE.

We can't think on our own.

The process of thinking has become so unpopular here it actually physically hurts us if we try. ;)

You can't even imagine how alone and afraid I feel here on my own in english speaking grounds. :D

roage
30-09-2009, 11:10 PM
Ok posted.

Yes Roage you are so right about authority.

But I am handicapped ... I am German.

We LOVE authority. We NEED authority. Nobody teached us how to get along ALONE.

We can't think on our own.

The process of thinking has become so unpopular here it actually physically hurts us if we try. ;)

You can't even imagine how alone and afraid I feel here on my own in english speaking grounds. :D

Well you have authority the best one you can get. I am German also but have become fully Americanized. There is one thing about me that was an essential part of me and that was that I rebelled against all authority. I only found one that was indeed a true authority.

The non-thinking disease is rampant here in the States also and in Hong Kong.

They sleep waiting for death. When death does not come it will force a re-thinking of their existence.

Cheers

Roage

moogtropolis
30-09-2009, 11:29 PM
i actually wasn't able to access any of those 3 links. bummer

moogtropolis
30-09-2009, 11:33 PM
Ok posted.

The process of thinking has become so unpopular here it actually physically hurts us if we try. ;)


as we keep searching to help unlock all of our fellow beings from captivity. I agree with this comment. in the USA, it also makes peoples heads hurt to think. I don't think it's on accident either.

roage
01-10-2009, 01:48 AM
as we keep searching to help unlock all of our fellow beings from captivity. I agree with this comment. in the USA, it also makes peoples heads hurt to think. I don't think it's on accident either.

Well the ISP is thinking about why I cannot establish an ADO connection to the site database. It has been going down a lot the last few days. They say they are dealing with a telecom outage also.

The server busy error is my error and I throw it up every time I cannot get an ADO connection. Their regular SA knew how to fix it. I would stop www and the IIS service to correct it. They say three hours. I say yuck.

roage
01-10-2009, 01:51 AM
Looks like they figured it out!

Woo hoo! we are back up!

I think we need to get this up on some mirrors or at least copy the information and spread it around. I do not enforce any copyright and everyone can copy and paste at their discretion provided they indicate their changes to the original material.

Roage

ex sheep
03-10-2009, 06:31 PM
Individual lessons with the clarity of indescribable proportions, astounding. :)




.

roage
03-10-2009, 06:57 PM
Individual lessons with the clarity of indescribable proportions, astounding. :).

Good God Man! you're talking nonsense! :D

At least that is what they say to me.

By Jove I think he's got it!

Not that Jupiter really has anything to do with it, or does it?

deckard666
04-10-2009, 10:24 PM
Found this excellent movie scene (http://www.disclose.tv/action/viewvideo/27611/Ego/) about the Ego (*10 min. from "Revolver" by Guy Ritchie). Had to order the movie after seeing that ;)

I guess it's a video evening here ... another find: Holographic Universe (http://www.disclose.tv/action/viewvideo/11592/Holographic_Universe/) (~25 min.).

relax
04-10-2009, 11:05 PM
Found this excellent movie scene (http://www.disclose.tv/action/viewvideo/27611/Ego/) about the Ego (*10 min. from "Revolver" by Guy Ritchie). Had to order the movie after seeing that ;)

I guess it's a video evening here ... another find: Holographic Universe (http://www.disclose.tv/action/viewvideo/11592/Holographic_Universe/) (~25 min.).

Very good that, especially like the part were he thought it was dead, only to be re-confronted. Of course its not that easy :D, and were he lets go of the gun, the weapon hes always had, that never gets you anywhere, just like the ego.

nectars
05-10-2009, 12:12 AM
Found this excellent movie scene (http://www.disclose.tv/action/viewvideo/27611/Ego/) about the Ego (*10 min. from "Revolver" by Guy Ritchie). Had to order the movie after seeing that ;)

I guess it's a video evening here ... another find: Holographic Universe (http://www.disclose.tv/action/viewvideo/11592/Holographic_Universe/) (~25 min.).

Nice. Classic Jekyle and Hyde

Total peace

:cool:

roage
05-10-2009, 09:55 PM
Found this excellent movie scene (http://www.disclose.tv/action/viewvideo/27611/Ego/) about the Ego (*10 min. from "Revolver" by Guy Ritchie). Had to order the movie after seeing that ;)

I guess it's a video evening here ... another find: Holographic Universe (http://www.disclose.tv/action/viewvideo/11592/Holographic_Universe/) (~25 min.).The Ego flick was excellent and you have reminded me of something very important.

The holographic Universe was the best treatment of a concept I recognized when I was 12 years old and it took decades for me to substantiate. It precipitated an deep interest in cosmology, quantum mechanics and astrophysics. The observer wear the flesh robot and the robot itself need not exist.

Now I find it wonderful that this quality material is finding its way to you. I am happy as you do not need any help other then what you have.

Excellent!

You do not need me to tell you that.

I love this game!

I will say that the provision of the construct is by contract. A contract that the Supreme Authority makes with itself for its own benefit.

"There is a lot more of me where I come from..."

Firesign Theater from the album titled: "We are All Bozos on This Bus"

Love,

Roage

swift44
07-10-2009, 04:18 AM
You know, through the span of a month since I've found this information I feel... no different than before.

Time to become a scientologist Xenu will teach me the law of contract well :]

roage
07-10-2009, 06:47 AM
You know, through the span of a month since I've found this information I feel... no different than before.

Time to become a scientologist Xenu will teach me the law of contract well :]

Were you expecting to "feel" different?

It is not a change in how one feel but what they experience.

Have a bunch of beer, you'll feel different. :D

Yeah, I think it is a great plan to allow some guy off the street to go in through one's interface, hypnotize and program you into giving your full allegiance to the likes of L Ron. He is special. You could be Tom Cruise. A man without any perceptible ego, at least not perceptible to himself.

Some of those folks are probably post hypnotic time-bombs ready to freak, shave their heads and try to get elected when someone utters the phrase "Ed Sullivan Lives".

swift44
07-10-2009, 07:20 AM
Were you expecting to "feel" different?

It is not a change in how one feel but what they experience.

Have a bunch of beer, you'll feel different. :D

Yeah, I think it is a great plan to allow some guy off the street to go in through one's interface, hypnotize and program you into giving your full allegiance to the likes of L Ron. He is special. You could be Tom Cruise. A man without any perceptible ego, at least not perceptible to himself.

Some of those folks are probably post hypnotic time-bombs ready to freak, shave their heads and try to get elected when someone utters the phrase "Ed Sullivan Lives".

No, I mean that I just can't stomach anymore of this, what god? I can't find answers and the universal mind just switches on and off, one day I get stuff the other Idon't. Anyways the most powerful person in the world went a short while ago to get Chacago the olympics and she brought along Barrack and Machelle Obama,God I'm glad that I live in Canada.


Edit: And about gaining sovereignty, I do realize that you can only show me the door Roage, Is up to me to ask god to move my arm to open it. ....wow

roage
07-10-2009, 07:28 AM
No, I mean that I just can't stomach anymore of this, what god? I can't find answers and the universal mind just switches on and off, one day I get stuff the other Idon't. Anyways the most powerful person in the world went a short while ago to get Chacago the olympics and she brought along Barrack and Machelle Obama,God I'm glad that I live in Canada.


Edit: And about gaining sovereignty, I do realize that you can only show me the door Roage, Is up to me to ask god to move my arm to open it. ....wow

I don't think Canada is far enough from the crater that is about to form here.

I think we are in for a winter like we have not had in a few centuries. I hope you have your earmuffs unpacked.

swift44
08-10-2009, 03:59 AM
I don't think Canada is far enough from the crater that is about to form here.

I think we are in for a winter like we have not had in a few centuries. I hope you have your earmuffs unpacked.

So how many people have become sovereign by reading/speaking your website and doing the steps again?

roage
08-10-2009, 05:09 AM
So how many people have become sovereign by reading/speaking your website and doing the steps again?

Four from this forum alone. There are more outside of that and I am not sure of the exact number.

It is a very narrow path.

But those four are going through the big download as of this writing.

I have been speaking to them in private messages.

Four is quite a lot. It indicates to me a geometric increase in awareness.

They were the specific reason I was led to post here in the first place.

Two of them do not even post to the forum they were just voyeurs until they hit this thread or it was recommended by one of the others.

I have found this clustering tendency common as we are already moved into a different place with similar folks at the same level. When the spark hits it affects them all.

For me it works this way. It used to be one at a time. Now a group of two or more are prepared and already know something odd is occurring. I am led to them or they find me. I simply supply the law and it is like lighting a fuse. It is quite a boom when it goes off.

I need not think about what I do. It just happens and I am as amazed as they are as the power expressed is truly awesome.

Nothing happens by accident.

It works if one is ready.

Only one posts now because, quite frankly they are at a loss to describe their experience in ways people can understand or believe nor do they feel compelled to. Their priorities have changed. I do this only because I asked for it and my request was granted. In hindsight it is a lot of trouble and name calling. It does however give me a window in the general progress of this general consciousness change we are all going through.

It is a shame that one cannot relate this information on a forum that purports itself to be of an "enlightened" nature but those are the tendencies of man. It is simply fear, nothing more, not fear of those going through the experience but of those who still remain confused.

One other was granted an audience and was shaken by it. This is because he was in a continual violation. The encounter brought the violation to light and he is remedying the situation as we speak. He will get it as he has already been notified and he is close.

They will not have much time to post. The amount of information being fed to them is all the conscious awareness can process. This goes on day and night until it is complete. It can be taxing. It is a wonderful experience but one seldom labors mentally at that rate. My download lasted about 2 and a half weeks. We carry a lot of confusion that needs to be delicately untangled without injuring the ego or perverting the experience for the "self".

It is done such that nothing is painful or misconstrued. I'm sure the people around them have concluded they are out of their nut.

The Truth will flow from their mouths continually. Sometimes it is easier to listen to one's own words rather then have it continually batter the consciousness in their thoughts.

It is quite a feeling however when the channel is opened.

When it is done they will be new beings with a quality of both sensory and mental clarity that few have attained. They will inherently understand the symbols and the Truth in all things they experienced and experience.

One gains continual memory of their life experience in great detail.

Once the download catches them up to present day they will at that time be unable to contain their enthusiasm and want to share it with everyone they meet.

Do not feel left out. Everyone of us is exactly where we are right now as it serves our best interests to be exactly where we are.

To rush it would be to deprive us of experience that is vital to our purpose and is necessary for our growth and we are not permitted to anyway.

Your desire for this will be recognized but you must be properly positioned.

Our progress does not abide our will and it is in the hands of the thing that manages every electron in this simulation.

Again, not one thing happens by accident.

You can begin the process by choice but the timing of what occurs is structured for maximum benefit and is out of our hands.

Try this:

Breakthrough (http://www.roage.com/main.asp?PageID=171)

You must learn how to trust without condition and that can be as easy as stepping across a puddle or as hard as swimming the ocean. That which is our observer chooses will determine how it will go.

Many cannot trust out of fear. We are a timid lot but know this: That trust will be reinforced in ways only the individual observer can recognize and as we continue it will be taken to new levels in stages. At every stage there is demonstrable confirmation. One need not rely on blind faith.

I hope this helps as I realize the place you find yourself.

You have nothing to worry about and I know we will all "get it" as, quite frankly. we really have no choice in that.

I got it so you got it. Why? because we are one being.

Relax, it is all good.

Love,

Roage

particlepopup
08-10-2009, 03:01 PM
So how many people have become sovereign by reading/speaking your website and doing the steps again?

Although i am not one of the four roage mentions i can solidy vouch for his post, how do you describe the undescribable, how do you explain the unexplainable, its quite simple if you know how, you just know, and when you are in the knowing only those that have realized this and beyond (not that i have achevied an audience yet, but hey all good things come to those who wait!!) can understand what is being explained, i would heed this thread with great enormity because that knowing is at hand, that is if you want to know.;)

deckard666
08-10-2009, 09:19 PM
Four from this forum alone.

How does THAT feel? :D

Be well,

Deckard

roage
08-10-2009, 10:11 PM
How does THAT feel? :D

Be well,

Deckard

Do I really have to answer? :)

deckard666
08-10-2009, 10:27 PM
Do I really have to answer? :)

I guess I can't think of a better job anybody can have.

I just remembered Hidden Hands comment:

Someone with no connections to the families can be affected by Divinity in such a way that he could surpass anything the bloodlines ever could achieve combined.
And four is quite a backup :D

roage
08-10-2009, 10:38 PM
I guess I can't think of a better job anybody can have.

I just remembered Hidden Hands comment:


And four is quite a backup :D

Your perception is rather acute. I think there is little that escapes you.

I say we all should be endeavoring to help them by regaining our control over ourselves. That is the only way they currently maintain control.

ex sheep
08-10-2009, 11:16 PM
I just remembered Hidden Hands comment:



and also here

"Do you know that not just spoken words but also written words emanate a frequency which have a direct effect?"

very true :)

infinite tea
08-10-2009, 11:33 PM
Hi Roage,

Thanks for sharing this.

roage
09-10-2009, 12:21 AM
and also here

"Do you know that not just spoken words but also written words emanate a frequency which have a direct effect?"

very true :) They do, but most have that perceptual ability attenuated by ego filtering to the point that potential power is is rendered impotent.

It is for this reason that one cannot allow this ego filtering to dominate one's perception. Once it is cleared, as in your case, you will be affected by the written word. Be careful and mindful of this fact!

This is the reason that I recommend that the typical seeker read out loud the material on the site. It is more substantive as it the material is absorbed by two senses and must be processed through the brains visual centers, passed to the speech centers then back into the auditory recognition center. Many times, this added neural involvement keeps the ego at bay enough such that the power can be expressed without the value being edited out.

It is a great way of keeping the ego too busy to "protect" our observer from whatever it deems, from an arbitrary standard, from being assimilated by our conscious awareness. Typically the ego is a "status quo" mechanism that rarely allows information that may be contrary to existing relativistic models from being intrinsically understood, believed or assimilated. This is good when one's "status quo" reality perception is correct but extremely dangerous when it is not.

One of the other means of overloading the ego is to repeat information continually over a 22 day period. This is well known and one can force completely contrary ideas and habits on a prisoner or population even against their conscious will.

If one switches on the TV (or Hypnotist in the corner) and they are barraged by a single idea or term then it is not surprising that entire populations can be programmed in this way. It is blatant what they do as it is indeed called: "Television and Radio Programming". A Church sermon, school lecture, newspaper, magazine or music on the radio serves the same function. For instance: songs are chosen by those that wish to produce a particular viewpoint and those songs are promoted such that they get more play. We ignorantly while away the day with this droning of programming and often wonder why our lives are so screwed up.

One of the easiest ways to begin thinking clearly is to get rid of this destructive stimulus. If you give it a couple of months most will find that they cannot listen to it when they return to it because one has become considerably deprogrammed in two months such that it becomes blatantly obvious to most people.

This was a key element in the Ray Bradbury's book: "Fahrenheit 451", which has become eerily prophetic. The population in the book was wholly mesmerized by the nonsense their controllers were inundating them with.

Much of the responses by those, in this forum, has it source in this alternate reality programming and those that spout the nonsense are the last ones to be cognizant of its source or the veracity of their arguments.

On one of the pages on my site I post a link to a great scientific treatment that outlines, in detail, modern "mind control" techniques. "Mind control" itself is a misnomer because one's mind cannot be controlled, however, when one controls perception the mind can be tricked into drawing false conclusions and making false assumptions, thereby altering behavior. Where the body goes so goes the mind. I recommend to all who have it in their mind to improve themselves, to at least become cognizant of the techniques in the article as once the means of this programming are made conscious then its grip on one's perception cannot be maintained:

MIND CONTROL IN THE 21st CENTURY (http://freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=18651&Disp=0)

It is incumbent upon us all to be cognizant of this peculiarities of this flesh robot we inhabit. Those that program us are acutely aware of our vulnerabilities and have become devastatingly adept at exploit these tools.

I say these are not "weaknesses" in us unless we choose not to be the master of them. Once one gains control and responsibility over their own interfaces then the effect is quite profound on our lives, health and general well-being.

Only then, and I do mean only then, can real learning commence unhindered and undistorted.

One will discover that much of what batters our senses is designed specifically to give us a false sense of reality such that we become demoralized (lack connection to the Divine), unable to decern truth from fiction and we lack the capacity to logically disseminate the difference.

This is why one can place the truth in front of the confused and it makes little difference to them, as they are held by their own flawed perception of reality and will often stubbornly defend it to their death.

Hope this helps,

Roage

particlepopup
09-10-2009, 12:51 AM
This is why one can place the truth in front of the confused and it makes little difference to them, as they are held by their own flawed perception of reality and will often stubbornly defend it to their death.

So you must know my friends!!! lol:)

deckard666
09-10-2009, 12:55 AM
I am experimenting with this right now LOL

But it's nothing more than snooping for the ready ones.

roage
09-10-2009, 01:08 AM
This is why one can place the truth in front of the confused and it makes little difference to them, as they are held by their own flawed perception of reality and will often stubbornly defend it to their death.

So you must know my friends!!! lol:)My entire family save for one cousin all think I am out of my mind. It is so bad I have little contact with them. I will not deprive them of their lesson as it is vital that they learn.

roage
09-10-2009, 01:13 AM
I am experimenting with this right now LOL

But it's nothing more than snooping for the ready ones.

I found it is easiest simply to have the Universe delivered. :D

You will find that when they are ready and, more importantly, when you are ready then they will find you, more accurately, you will be forced together dragged even kicking and screaming. ha ha :D

deckard666
09-10-2009, 01:27 AM
I found it is easiest simply to have the Universe delivered. :D

You will find that when they are ready and, more importantly, when you are ready then they will find you, more accurately, you will be forced together dragged even kicking and screaming. ha ha :D

Ah yes I got a good teaching over the last days. *No I won't back down*

No really ... I am beginning to understand what "I love this Game" really means :D

roage
09-10-2009, 01:38 AM
Ah yes I got a good teaching over the last days. *No I won't back down*

No really ... I am beginning to understand what "I love this Game" really means :D

Eyes that see with blinding sight

As in:


Do not go gentle into that good night,
Old age should burn and rave at close of day;
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.

Though wise men at their end know dark is right,
Because their words had forked no lightning they
Do not go gentle into that good night.

Good men, the last wave by, crying how bright
Their frail deeds might have danced in a green bay,
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.

Wild men who caught and sang the sun in flight,
And learn, too late, they grieved it on its way,
Do not go gentle into that good night.

Grave men, near death, who see with blinding sight
Blind eyes could blaze like meteors and be gay,
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.

And you, my father, there on the sad height,
Curse, bless, me now with your fierce tears, I pray.
Do not go gentle into that good night.
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.

Dylan Thomas

spiral_out
10-10-2009, 06:56 PM
Just got done playing catchup on this thread and I'd like to say that this is really great stuff. Reading through the cheat sheet on your site is kind of like a reassurance of information I've just come to know by being open to all of life's experiences and listening to my intuition. Also, trying to see things from God's (and yes I do mean, "I") collective mind perspective.

Reading through the thread also reminded me of this youtube video series I saw a while back and I think it would be very helpful for people interested in your thread to see this.

Primacy of Consciousness (http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=71C6EB43AEBC6A9F&search_query=primacy+of+consciousness)

Mind you, I haven't seen your video series yet and will do very soon but reading the 23 pages of material slowly was enough for now :D

deckard666
10-10-2009, 07:18 PM
Just got done playing catchup on this thread and I'd like to say that this is really great stuff. Reading through the cheat sheet on your site is kind of like a reassurance of information I've just come to know by being open to all of life's experiences and listening to my intuition. Also, trying to see things from God's (and yes I do mean, "I") collective mind perspective.

Reading through the thread also reminded me of this youtube video series I saw a while back and I think it would be very helpful for people interested in your thread to see this.

Primacy of Consciousness (http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=71C6EB43AEBC6A9F&search_query=primacy+of+consciousness)

Mind you, I haven't seen your video series yet and will do very soon but reading the 23 pages of material slowly was enough for now :D

About time you came. :D

Watch the presentation soon. It's a wonderful introcudtion and will help you realizing it.

Be well,

Deckard

nectars
11-10-2009, 01:52 AM
Eyes that see with blinding sight

As in:


Do not go gentle into that good night,
Old age should burn and rave at close of day;
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.

Though wise men at their end know dark is right,
Because their words had forked no lightning they
Do not go gentle into that good night.

Good men, the last wave by, crying how bright
Their frail deeds might have danced in a green bay,
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.

Wild men who caught and sang the sun in flight,
And learn, too late, they grieved it on its way,
Do not go gentle into that good night.

Grave men, near death, who see with blinding sight
Blind eyes could blaze like meteors and be gay,
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.

And you, my father, there on the sad height,
Curse, bless, me now with your fierce tears, I pray.
Do not go gentle into that good night.
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.

Dylan Thomas

Interesting, I came aross a similarity just before(right before) I had a nervous breakdown which was written by an early fan of DT.

"Whom is the wiser man. He who braves the storms of life and survives, or he who sits safely ashore content in mere existence?" - Hunter S.Thompson - age 17

Regardless of his methods, he walked the walk.

RIP@HST

roage
11-10-2009, 03:17 AM
Just got done playing catchup on this thread and I'd like to say that this is really great stuff. Reading through the cheat sheet on your site is kind of like a reassurance of information I've just come to know by being open to all of life's experiences and listening to my intuition. Also, trying to see things from God's (and yes I do mean, "I") collective mind perspective.

Reading through the thread also reminded me of this youtube video series I saw a while back and I think it would be very helpful for people interested in your thread to see this.

Primacy of Consciousness (http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=71C6EB43AEBC6A9F&search_query=primacy+of+consciousness)

Mind you, I haven't seen your video series yet and will do very soon but reading the 23 pages of material slowly was enough for now :D

There is an interesting synergy on this thread and all here feed into it.

If I get the chance this weekend I will take a look.

Cheers

Roage

roage
11-10-2009, 03:20 AM
Interesting, I came aross a similararity just before(right before) I had my nervous breakdown which was written by an early fan of DT.

"Whom is the wiser man. He who braves the storms of life and survives, or he who sits safely ashore content in mere existence?" - Hunter S.Thompson - age 17

Regardless of his methods, he walked the walk.

RIP@HST

This man pushed the boundaries of this Universe and I will endorse any method by men who know differently. They may be ridiculed but they have courage where others do not.

nectars
11-10-2009, 04:44 AM
This man pushed the boundaries of this Universe and I will endorse any method by men who know differently. They may be ridiculed but they have courage where others do not.

Indeed, it takes that step into courageousness to move past the pride of "being the doer" and accepting that ones life may not be ones own.

Peace.

deckard666
11-10-2009, 12:58 PM
No, I mean that I just can't stomach anymore of this, what god? I can't find answers and the universal mind just switches on and off, one day I get stuff the other Idon't.

I started a diary of synchronicity moments yesterday. I should have done long ago. I just write down things I remember that happened each day. I was fascinated with Synchronicity and Synchromysticism before I found Roger. The thing is: I never saw it. I believed all these people saw something but I couldn't. Well that changed August 13th, 2009 :D

I have good days and bad days like you. It seems to work best if I am relaxed and just observe (one of MY main lessons ... patience). If you force it ... WANT to see it it doesn't work at all.

The messages are on a complete personal level. Everything that has ever fascinated you in your life contains these hints. For example car number plates - Besides 4444 and stuff like that I get years or dates out of it (german plates have max. 4 numbers ... which gives years like 1971 or dates like 2704). Then I have movie quotes, song lyrics (THAT one is special!) and my personal muse. My personal muse is a college from work who is a music fan .... mostly guitar related music ... songwriters.

Now I always thought well if he likes songwriters he must have a great understanding of the english lyrics - I was more into the sound than the texts and didn't understand songs very well. And now it comes: He doesn't understand most of the lyrics. He thinks they are important but only likes the songs because they contain 2 or 3 lines that he understands.

And every evening he sends me youtube links to songs he likes. First it was annoying because I spent hours reading online and didn't wanted to be disturbed. Sometimes I listened to a song but payed no real attention. Until I one day realized he send me quite a lot songs with biblical or spiritual background. So I asked him why and he couldn't say. He hadn't even noticed. And after a while I realized he always sends me songs that give me hints or contain passages containing the truth. Songs that shine in a brand new light for me. Now I listen to quite a lot of music in the evening LOL - great help! He's a "tool" for me. He isn't into the conspiracy stuff at all. He does not realize he's helping me.

One time I was looking for the remedy in german law and didn't came further. We were having breakfast and he threw in a latin quote. He likes roman history. *CLICK* Roman History ... Roman contracts. I looked that up and it was not the solution - but it had the right hint to the solution in it.

An example from the last days: Friday I went to a shop and see the movie The Road Warrior on Blu Ray for a nice price. But I first want to check if it is uncut before I buy it. Saturday I am in a different part of town to meet a friend. I go into a shop to buy some daily items and check their Blu Rays. I bought the movie Triple Cross and found beside it ... The Road Warrior. Later that evening I am on a forum (not this) and find a user in a thread dealing with the Hidden Hand and Insider papers. Her avatar shows a blue alien character from Farscape (Chiana). My ex-girlfriend comes online and tells me she is watching season 3 of Farscape right now. I mentioned nothing before. Her connection with Farscape is the actor Ben Bowder - she is a Stargate SG-1 fan. My only connection to Farscape is the blue alien character - not Chiana but the other: Pa'u Zotoh Zhaan. I have a thing for bald blue aliens ;). I only saw 2 or 3 episodes of it ever and only her character fascinated me. Not my show. The actress Virginia Hey starred very early in her career in ... The Road Warrior.

Now where does that lead me? My guess ... it is the user that I should talk to (I started to). I had similair experiences in the last weeks that lead me to other people. Works not bad so far.

Another thing from this weeking was 1871. First I saw a lot number plates with 1971 (which is my birth year). Then that changed to 1871 and I wondered why. Well Roger is the connection. In his documents I was confronted with the year 1871 because it was the birth of the "United States Of America" corporation. The end of the Republic. As I realized that connection my college gets out his cigarettes - not his usual brand but another one: Lucky Strike. On the package it states Est. 1871. Now I know there is this Lucky Strike conspiracy with the white package, the red symbol representing the Japanese flag and it should be related to the bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki. I look up the events in 1871 and find out: United States Of America established February 21st 1871 (German Empire founded January 18th 1871) and Lucky Strike founded August 22, 1871. Now ain't that a Lucky Strike to celebrate with it's own cigarette brand? Or is that just nonsense? I can't say. This knowledge has no value for me - I can't see it yet - but that's how I am "driven" around through observing.

I am just writing this boring stuff down because maybe it helps you finding your personal hints. It's sometimes so simple like a person around you. I still laugh about the Rome connection with my college. It's always right in front of your eyes.

Be well,

Deckard

roage
11-10-2009, 06:17 PM
Synchronicities occur continually by we are rarely able to focus our attention as the ego gets in the way. This is the reason one must trust. It is through the trust mechanism that we can know what we are doing is the best thing we can do. When we trust we cannot help but be focused on the right things. We know that those things that come to mind are there on purpose and what we see is a message.

If we cannot trust then what is generated by our ego and our awareness cannot be trusted to yield blissful results. I say "blissful" as bad experiences are all constructive, as we learn from failure.

If it is switching on and off then focus on the trust issue. It is not easy and it takes courage and practice.

Trust is the key!

When one turns one's face to the light one sees the obstacles and the traps. Turn away and we walk right into the traps.

Our only singular obligation and requirement is trust. When one trusts then everything else is handled automatically.

Without trust and we walk blind, we second guess and we cannot make correct choices based on intuition and this will inevitably leads to suffering.

Trust is the key!

spiral_out
11-10-2009, 11:58 PM
rough start to the day...needed to see this. SO TRUE.

roage
12-10-2009, 07:10 AM
rough start to the day...needed to see this. SO TRUE.

Didn't you know? The simulation is for your benefit :)

particlepopup
12-10-2009, 03:12 PM
Synchronicity, now theres a word, but more than that its certainly an amazing experience, one which builds and builds over time and before you know it through observation and trust it is without question occuring in your life, at times you may think "surely not" but when in hindsight after an event you look back to the sign given and wham its there, all one does is ask a question, something is highlighted and usually backed up, it may be obvious it may be subtle it maybe something one sees daily but feels different at that time, words/events/pictures jump out even be spelled differently from what is excpected but its highlighted in such away one can understand, a formulation of the answer is presenting itself but doubt/ego intervenes "its just a road sign, its only a company logo, its just a blackbird, they are everywhere, its random". Wrong, truth is revealing itself, its a great game to play. Even without a question one can connect to higher meanings of "random events". It sort of all fits into place and life becomes a lot less bothersome and very very interesting. :)

deckard666
12-10-2009, 03:27 PM
Synchronicity, now theres a word, but more than that its certainly an amazing experience, one which builds and builds over time and before you know it through observation and trust it is without question occuring in your life, at times you may think "surely not" but when in hindsight after an event you look back to the sign given and wham its there, all one does is ask a question, something is highlighted and usually backed up, it may be obvious it may be subtle it maybe something one sees daily but feels different at that time, words/events/pictures jump out even be spelled differently from what is excpected but its highlighted in such away one can understand, a formulation of the answer is presenting itself but doubt/ego intervenes "its just a road sign, its only a company logo, its just a blackbird, they are everywhere, its random". Wrong, truth is revealing itself, its a great game to play. Even without a question one can connect to higher meanings of "random events". It sort of all fits into place and life becomes a lot less bothersome and very very interesting. :)


Just very very interesting?

I let Jodie Foster answer that:

There are no words ...
Ellie Arroway, (Contact, 1997)Be well,

Deckard

roage
12-10-2009, 06:34 PM
Synchronicity, now theres a word, but more than that its certainly an amazing experience, one which builds and builds over time and before you know it through observation and trust it is without question occuring in your life, at times you may think "surely not" but when in hindsight after an event you look back to the sign given and wham its there, all one does is ask a question, something is highlighted and usually backed up, it may be obvious it may be subtle it maybe something one sees daily but feels different at that time, words/events/pictures jump out even be spelled differently from what is excpected but its highlighted in such away one can understand, a formulation of the answer is presenting itself but doubt/ego intervenes "its just a road sign, its only a company logo, its just a blackbird, they are everywhere, its random". Wrong, truth is revealing itself, its a great game to play. Even without a question one can connect to higher meanings of "random events". It sort of all fits into place and life becomes a lot less bothersome and very very interesting. :)

Well put.

spiral_out
12-10-2009, 09:16 PM
Dreams have been a big message to me lately. I kept having the same bad dream 3 nights in a row, until i realized it was a sign that if I didn't change myself and fix the problem, these bad dreams and ones like it aren't going to keep coming back. After meditating on it for quite some time, I felt like truth was just being POURED into my brain. Amazing the lessons you might come to know if you are just aware enough during certain experiences and can recount enough details to remember what it is you need to change.

No bad dreams anymore, no more feelings of that "sinking in my stomach" when i think of that dream content as well.

Freedom! ;)

roage
12-10-2009, 09:31 PM
Dreams have been a big message to me lately. I kept having the same bad dream 3 nights in a row, until i realized it was a sign that if I didn't change myself and fix the problem, these bad dreams and ones like it aren't going to keep coming back. After meditating on it for quite some time, I felt like truth was just being POURED into my brain. Amazing the lessons you might come to know if you are just aware enough during certain experiences and can recount enough details to remember what it is you need to change.

No bad dreams anymore, no more feelings of that "sinking in my stomach" when i think of that dream content as well.

Freedom! ;)

We have had it droned into us that dreams are just the idle firing of neurons and that all things happen as a function of chance, luck, accident or chaos. We are ridiculed for searching for meaning and purpose. It is labeled superstitious or insanity to attach meaning to that which cannot be sensed or measured. Is it no wonder that when look around we see a society bereft of all sense of purpose and value? I enjoy this time and have been waiting for it to come. We are moving into an age where the unseen will have more to do with our experience then that which we can hold in our hand. It is a time where we start again to see connections. Where primal lust will fall away to love. Is love such a superstition or freedom such that it cannot be sought after? Once attained de we have the courage when they label us insane?

Not I! It is the little man who defines his world only by those thing he can see or measure. He is a man mesmerized by his experience with no purpose or meaning. He the one that never asks "How can one measure that which operates outside of the universe with tools that exist within the universe?" How indeed?!

particlepopup
13-10-2009, 12:10 AM
Ah the good old dream, i know plenty people that dont, they find it difficult to reach higher understanding. An intergral part of my life that has brought me artworks, symphonys, lucidty and knowledge, Viva el dreamio!! (cant speak spanish really)

spiral_out
13-10-2009, 12:54 AM
It's funny that you say some people can't dream. For the last 8 months I probably had about 2-3 dreams that I could remember, total. I just recently moved to Costa Rica and ever since the night that I first slept here, I've been having vivid dreams. I can remember between 3-6 each night. I think it might be related to stress because I was stressing out about getting enough money and making sure everything went okay. Now that I'm here and I can just relax my body feels so much more at peace with itself. Not only with dreams, but I don't bite my nails anymore - they are long and gross now :p

People need to go where they can be truly happy.

deckard666
13-10-2009, 01:01 AM
Why do I always have to lack the abilities everybody else seems to have?

Only once in a while I wake up knowing that I dreamt something but I can't make something out of it and have it forgotten soon.

On the other hand ... no dreams = no nightmares! :D

Be well,

Deckard

roage
13-10-2009, 01:05 AM
Ah the good old dream, i know plenty people that dont, they find it difficult to reach higher understanding. An intergral part of my life that has brought me artworks, symphonys, lucidty and knowledge, Viva el dreamio!! (cant speak spanish really)

Sounds like Spanish to me :D

roage
13-10-2009, 01:09 AM
It's funny that you say some people can't dream. For the last 8 months I probably had about 2-3 dreams that I could remember, total. I just recently moved to Costa Rica and ever since the night that I first slept here, I've been having vivid dreams. I can remember between 3-6 each night. I think it might be related to stress because I was stressing out about getting enough money and making sure everything went okay. Now that I'm here and I can just relax my body feels so much more at peace with itself. Not only with dreams, but I don't bite my nails anymore - they are long and gross now :p

People need to go where they can be truly happy.

Someone close to me does not dream as she has repressed some unsavory events in her life. Now that she wants to clear those she is now dreaming in rich symbolic imagery. That I believe is a first step in clearing out the clutter.

ex sheep
13-10-2009, 11:05 PM
I have never used the word "WOW" so much in my life as I have the last wee while :D

particlepopup
14-10-2009, 12:40 AM
I have never used the word "WOW" so much in my life as I have the last wee while :D

WOW cos of the thread or cos of the things you see or both, im trying to find a new word cos WOW doesnt quite cut it anymore, like deckard quoted from contact " there are no words ". Only today considering my intuition i asked the question why does one suffer through physical pain ( obviously not directly but as a consequence ), these morsels popped up, a street named vIGO st. ,a car toyota AYGO, various signs where GO was prominent and preceeded with a vowel, even a number plate w123 EGO(not exactly the reg), i have seen these things before in whatever capacity but today they were highlighted in such a way that i gained my answer and for now only a loud laugh and a shake of the head comes close to outing my feelings.:)
Maybe i could just make up some more sounding spanish, roage can translate: Marvello del quatra biggerdio biggeredio bongio :D

swift44
14-10-2009, 12:44 AM
I'm sovereign... just kidding

edit: Actually this stuff never comes to me in my mundane routines, I have to be alone, doing nothing, allocating time for it, thats when something starts happening in my head O_o or i'm just crazy.

roage
14-10-2009, 12:45 AM
Inspiration and Divination are wonderful words if we take the time to know them.

roage
14-10-2009, 12:47 AM
I'm sovereign... just kidding

I noticed in the end you spoke the truth :D

No victims here!

roage
14-10-2009, 12:48 AM
I have never used the word "WOW" so much in my life as I have the last wee while :D

It does not need to stop being that way ;)

swift44
14-10-2009, 12:48 AM
I noticed in the end you spoke the truth :D

No victims here!

How can a random phrase/lie create a victum???