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astraltraveller
14-08-2007, 05:05 AM
hi folks

i have a question that will pobably sound dumb but i cant get my head around it and it might be worth asking here even though it will make me look stoopid . anyway here goes it ....

what i dont get is that i dont believe everything is solid and i believe sub atomic particles atoms , quarks , leptons and planks ect keep winking in and out of reality in fast succession . then thiers the fact that anything that is behind you is suposed to be just infinite possibilitie , all this is acording to quantum physics and the nature of reality so we are told .and david icke talks about the hypnotist who programmed a man so his daughter became invisible to him ok soooooo , this is were i get confucioused . why is it that when you know things are not solid why is it you dont fall through the floor and why cant you walk through walls lol . i think im missing something fundimentally important here wich i think is in hypnosis . do we have to be hypnotized and told while under hypnosis that thier are no walls and thier is no floor to pull off the feat of walking through walls and i cant help wondering what would happen to a person under hypnosis that thier are no floor no ceiling and no walls , would they then end up on a diffrent plane like the astral , probably not but wow i just cant help wondering what would happen to this person , could they walk through walls and also , the guy who was hypnotized to not be able to see his daughter , was he able to touch her and if he could would he have thought wow im touching something solid yet invisible or was she completly wiped out of his reality .

also , would it not be possible to make hypnosis mp3,s that people could download that could re-program people to like believe they are fit and well if they are sick . probably not , i have tried hypnosis tapes and mp3 but they dont do what they say on the tin . but i know thiers diffrent types of hypnosis , thiers a black-ops hypnosis course available on the net wich i tried but i thought it was shizzle .

temetnoche
14-08-2007, 05:43 AM
I have wondered the same thing. I belive it is the same as your concept on an astral or 'dream' plane. Were as as one perception persists on ones mind the reality re-inforces it self on the enviorment one finds oneself. I am not anyone to fully understand this entirely. But it does shed some light. I think that once we understand and truely believe or acept what the truth is..we then can realy move mountains that is talked about in books.

As in a privious thred..I had talked about wondering about the 'word' or what can be done to expose the truth. And wonder why no one has come forward that has actualy travled on the astral plane...which I am trying to do, and To acess the Akasic Record (which to my understanding is a living record of 'everything') similar to Edgar Cayce. And start asking questions..how do we overcome and what do we do as a race to overt the 'system'?

BTW no question is stupid...we are all trying to learn..

astraltraveller
14-08-2007, 06:14 AM
hello temetnoche


thanks for the great reply . its maybe like you say , when we truly understand something we can move mountains . i heard from two diffrent sources two slightly diffrent stories . one was that in india , some yogi types go into something like a tent while the relatives wait outside and guard it and dont go in for something like 46 days and when the time is up they go in and find nothing but hair and fingernails , maybe they ate themselves lol , no seriusly , they are said to turn into a ball of light and disapear . im thinking they have done something like worked out some mysteries of life and are able to see though all or sertain illusions of life and like hypnotize themselves and all barriers fall away .


i have sorta astral travelled hence my name . are you familliar with the story in the bible about moses grinding up the gold and golden calf of the idolatras people and making it into a liquid , im sure you have . anyway they all drink the solution and go to a heavenly realm . well i kinda had an accident wich reminds me of this . i took one extra tabblespoon of colloidal gold and fealt unwell so i lay on my bed and shut my eyes and the next thing i know is i start comming out of my body and i saw these two dwarf like creatures wearing small monks clothes and they had big mouths and big teeth and one tried grabbing my nutts so i shat and was scared so i gave them the bird and was instantly sucked back into my body . the thing is is that you have to be well behaved thier or you get sent back is what i read and also i read about these creatures and that they try to touch your privates to make you leave . but i also read that whatever you believe is on the astral you will see so maybe if i believed pink elephants were thier i may have seen them instead .

i whant to try colloidal gold again and see if i can project like this again so i purchased a colloidal gold making machine but it hasnt arrived yet , i do hope the guy will send it or i will have to make a dispute with paypal , i orderd it over a month ago but i know he is slow .

maybe colloidal gold would help you project i dont know , its expensive though so thats why i whant to make my own . usualy the machines cost thousands but this guy sells a simple one called an OVO meaning egg in greek or lattin and it cost $360 .