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black_label
10-08-2009, 06:31 AM
I am very intrested in this higher counsciousness and being connected with it. I believe it is very real and heard it described as 'your gut feeling' or 'go with what your heart tells you'. My problem is i cant deciffer between what 'my heart is telling me' and strong, intense emotions based off of situations and/or events that are telling me to do something. So my questions are:

how do you tell between the emotions and the higher counsciouness?

how do you connect or begin to become connected with it?

and i dont know if this is part of the higher counsciousness but David would talk about this when he was 'awakened' and if was the feeling of being 'plugged in' and feeling the oness with everything that is, was, and ever will be. what is it and how can one try to feel it or to connect into it?

these two subjects intrest me very much and i would love to learn more about them. anyone who can help me on my quest, please educate me. thank you.

nocturne of shadow
10-08-2009, 08:25 AM
don't worrie about it your already there it's not some super thing lol your aware and that's good enough but it doesn't hurt to seek more knowledge, just love everyone even those who cause pain everyone is equal no matter what and i mean that i love everyone the child murders etc.. because it's a waist of energy to hate them just shrug it off as those people are learning as well in a diffrent way, the main thing i'll say to you is don't worrie so much i was like that to but as you search for things you will find comfort i assure you on that, im still learing stuff everyday no one is truely awake just aware :p the ones asended or awake are us everything is one! just be happy<hard for me put i try :) and help those when you can but don't go out of your way if you don't want to> respect your free will as much as others it's okay to be greedy as you are your own god. i hope this made some sense i suck at getting my thoughts into writing,

shaivite
10-08-2009, 09:05 AM
To know more, to have personal first hand experience, still the mind. Find some form of meditation that resonates with you. One which brings the mind (eventually) to a state of one-pointedness. This may sound simple, but it isn't necessarily easy. By calming the ripples of the mind it brings a clear, more focussed, yet freer, awareness of what is and what is not.

deetox
10-08-2009, 10:37 AM
Learning to live in the present moment will also help still your mind.

Read The Power of Now by Eckhart Tolle.

disorder2k8
10-08-2009, 10:41 AM
Your brain will always try to analyse, you have to stop it doing this, that meaning, you cant question everything that pops into your head, rationalise and dismiss it, you just have to put it right down on paper and if anything productive comes from it then it could be considered a success.

The connection comes with your conscious mind (the thinking brain) not interfering with patterns, shapes or words that seemingly appear at random

lhaull
15-08-2009, 05:13 AM
Easy answer is surrender.
Let go of everything you are holding.
I mean everything, I find it best to do at night, while in bed I relax and become more aware of my mind, I let the noise of it go, and become aware of the body, I let that go, let the body fall away. I have an inner voice saying 'Take your hands off the controls, let go.' I do. Then I let the voice go to. I let me go, and beyond it, is a deeper understanding, a bigger me.
I let that go, and move on.

Simply surrender, go a little further each time as it can be scary at first.
But what you may experience is a spilling out of your conscious vessle, into a bigger vessle around you, and you will find that you are already there waiting for this part to join you. You become more you, with less of the fragmented identity. Less thoughts and worries, but a more pure state of being you.
I have not, nor wish to lose the individuality, I believe you can keep it regardless of how deep you go, what you do lose is the ego, the petty worries, the 'little me against the world' feeling.
Yes you become more at peace but you are you.
Really rather wonderful.
Words as always paint a drab picture compared to experiencing it.
Fear guards the door to the next pool, I avoided the fear and so the door for a long time, but recently I allowed the fear to be there, and I spilled out of my awareness of me, into a more concentrated, loving, vibrant me.

Was needed and well recieved.

lizzy
15-08-2009, 05:28 AM
hi ihaull ;)

I am preparing to do this , much fear has kept me from living in the present, focusing on regrets from the past and apprehension for the future. I am truely at the point of surrender to a higher power or consciousness......it's all gotten too haevy to carry any longer....oh man , have been a stubborn spirit.;)

kappy0405
15-08-2009, 05:28 AM
Your brain will always try to analyse, you have to stop it doing this, that meaning, you cant question everything that pops into your head, rationalise and dismiss it, you just have to put it right down on paper and if anything productive comes from it then it could be considered a success.

The connection comes with your conscious mind (the thinking brain) not interfering with patterns, shapes or words that seemingly appear at random

^^^^what this guy said.^^^^ :cool:



how do you tell between the emotions and the higher counsciouness?
just go with the flow man. whatever your gut instinct is the moment you have it, go with that.. you'll sort it all out eventually. It really is that simple. ;)

just some recommendations: try to always meditate every day at least a little bit before you go to sleep at night, even if only for a few minutes... Try to eat healthier. Drink lots of water & fluids. If you can afford it, eat organic foods. Go outside a lot and get away from all the riff-raff. Never dwell on any negative thing that happened. It happened, its over.. it was meant to happen. Just live in the moment. Constantly remind yourself that you're one with everything until it becomes your nature. Don't just believe it, know it. :)

:) always smile. :)

lizzy
15-08-2009, 06:30 AM
^^^

just some recommendations: try to always meditate every day at least a little bit before you go to sleep at night, even if only for a few minutes... Try to eat healthier. Drink lots of water & fluids. If you can afford it, eat organic foods. Go outside a lot and get away from all the riff-raff. Never dwell on any negative thing that happened. It happened, its over.. it was meant to happen. Just live in the moment. Constantly remind yourself that you're one with everything until it becomes your nature. Don't just believe it, know it. :)

:) always smile. :)

thankyou kappy....;)

delamo1999
15-08-2009, 08:02 AM
Easy answer is surrender.
Let go of everything you are holding.
I mean everything, I find it best to do at night, while in bed I relax and become more aware of my mind, I let the noise of it go, and become aware of the body, I let that go, let the body fall away. I have an inner voice saying 'Take your hands off the controls, let go.' I do. Then I let the voice go to. I let me go, and beyond it, is a deeper understanding, a bigger me.
I let that go, and move on.

Simply surrender, go a little further each time as it can be scary at first.
But what you may experience is a spilling out of your conscious vessle, into a bigger vessle around you, and you will find that you are already there waiting for this part to join you. You become more you, with less of the fragmented identity. Less thoughts and worries, but a more pure state of being you.
I have not, nor wish to lose the individuality, I believe you can keep it regardless of how deep you go, what you do lose is the ego, the petty worries, the 'little me against the world' feeling.
Yes you become more at peace but you are you.
Really rather wonderful.
Words as always paint a drab picture compared to experiencing it.
Fear guards the door to the next pool, I avoided the fear and so the door for a long time, but recently I allowed the fear to be there, and I spilled out of my awareness of me, into a more concentrated, loving, vibrant me.

Was needed and well recieved.


Very well said! This is something that I am working towards because I totally believe in this. I am just waiting for the shift to happen.

:)

relax
15-08-2009, 01:52 PM
^^^^what this guy said.^^^^ :cool:




just go with the flow man. whatever your gut instinct is the moment you have it, go with that.. you'll sort it all out eventually. It really is that simple. ;)

just some recommendations: try to always meditate every day at least a little bit before you go to sleep at night, even if only for a few minutes... Try to eat healthier. Drink lots of water & fluids. If you can afford it, eat organic foods. Go outside a lot and get away from all the riff-raff. Never dwell on any negative thing that happened. It happened, its over.. it was meant to happen. Just live in the moment. Constantly remind yourself that you're one with everything until it becomes your nature. Don't just believe it, know it. :)

:) always smile. :)

Good post. To expand on the eat healthy point a little more stop eating foods with msg and aspartame in, stop drinking tap water (fluoride) and eat more alkaline foods and less acid, search google to tell which is which.

mind1universe
16-08-2009, 01:21 AM
Can anyone tell me how I can get flouride out of the water. I hear it's pretty hard to get it out conventionally. I eat very healthy and drink only filtered tap water. (helps a little) But I'm sick of the smell of the water. No matter how clean it looks you just KNOW there is poision in it.

boots
16-08-2009, 07:29 AM
Can anyone tell me how I can get flouride out of the water. I hear it's pretty hard to get it out conventionally. I eat very healthy and drink only filtered tap water. (helps a little) But I'm sick of the smell of the water. No matter how clean it looks you just KNOW there is poision in it.

Hi

You can check these out.

http://psifilters.com.au/fluoride-copper.htm?gclid=CICt-pu4p5wCFYctpAodchUIjg

This looks like a good one.

http://thewaterexchange.net/

from this site.


http://waterfiltersanddrinkingwatersafety.blogspot.com/

Good luck.

archemis
18-08-2009, 11:19 AM
Hi all,

Meditation is the key. If you don't know how to meditate effectively, please research it. If you are already meditating, but are having trouble attaining Theta and Delta levels, please research 'the holosync solution'. This was instrumental to my awakening and connecting to source and may be of help to you.

A

esowteric
18-08-2009, 11:27 AM
I am very intrested in this higher counsciousness and being connected with it ...

That reminds me of an old story ...

An Eastern king heard that an ancient sage had discovered the ultimate secret, and he became obsessed with making this secret his own.

After many years of searching, the king's agents finally tracked down the sage and the king had him delivered to the throne room for interrogation.

Finally, growing impatient, the king banged his bejewelled sceptre down on the hard marble floor. "Tell me the secret, old man, or I'll have your guts for garters!"

Very slowly, the ancient sage approached the Eastern king, cupped his hands to the king's ear and whispered. "I shall, indeed, tell you the ultimate secret, Sire. In order to attain to the ultimate secret, you must do this and that and do such-and-such a thing."

"Splendid, my man: I knew you'd see sense."

"Oh," added the sage, almost by-the-bye: "and on no account are you to think of monkeys."

Good fortune to you,
eric.

lhaull
19-08-2009, 07:56 AM
hi ihaull ;)

I am preparing to do this , much fear has kept me from living in the present, focusing on regrets from the past and apprehension for the future. I am truely at the point of surrender to a higher power or consciousness......it's all gotten too haevy to carry any longer....oh man , have been a stubborn spirit.;)

I to Lizzy.
I have been searching for the door only to walk away from it again and again.
Spilling out of this reality into another view / experience of it was wonderful for me.
Long awaited but also perfectly timed.
The most wonerful part for me was that what was waiting for me was me. A more pure me, free from worry and fear, and filled with love and compassion and creation.

simmo
19-08-2009, 09:37 AM
Meditation is key, this is true. I actually have 2 holosync apps on my iphone, I forgot I had them! I'll try them tonight. It is said one should meditate for as many minutes as your age, ie- if you're 26, meditate for 26 minutes a day at least :)

flyermay
30-08-2009, 08:44 PM
Can anyone recommend any good meditation material (books, videos, etc)?

I'm interested in this subject, but all I've been recommended is referent to Crowley, Magick, Kabbalah and so on.

Not that I have anything against it, but I'm really not interested in performing rituals nor becoming a magician.

marpat
30-08-2009, 09:22 PM
I am very intrested in this higher counsciousness and being connected with it. I believe it is very real and heard it described as 'your gut feeling' or 'go with what your heart tells you'. My problem is i cant deciffer between what 'my heart is telling me' and strong, intense emotions based off of situations and/or events that are telling me to do something. So my questions are:

how do you tell between the emotions and the higher counsciouness?

how do you connect or begin to become connected with it?

and i dont know if this is part of the higher counsciousness but David would talk about this when he was 'awakened' and if was the feeling of being 'plugged in' and feeling the oness with everything that is, was, and ever will be. what is it and how can one try to feel it or to connect into it?

these two subjects intrest me very much and i would love to learn more about them. anyone who can help me on my quest, please educate me. thank you.

I would say that information coming from higher consciousness tends to appear as a knowing. It can bring a feeling of elation but the emotional reaction is just a secondary effect. Example, if you are meditating on a very deep issue for some time then all of a suddenly experience great clarity and you see how it works and how it relates to other things then that is how it happens. If that realisation has caused a release of positive energy then you will feel elated. Depth and clarity are what indicate knowledge coming from the higher sources. If you have an idea that is fuzzy and incomplete then it is from the lower levels of mind.

marpat
30-08-2009, 09:24 PM
Can anyone recommend any good meditation material (books, videos, etc)?

I'm interested in this subject, but all I've been recommended is referent to Crowley, Magick, Kabbalah and so on.

I not that I have anything against it, but I'm really not in performing rituals nor becoming a magician.

Try Edgar Cayce, he has a huge library.

Not all western occultism is ritual based although a lot of it is. Kabbalah is a great system and again it does not need ritual. You can use it purely as a map for meditative experience and it will give you much information.

marpat
30-08-2009, 09:28 PM
hi ihaull ;)

I am preparing to do this , much fear has kept me from living in the present, focusing on regrets from the past and apprehension for the future. I am truely at the point of surrender to a higher power or consciousness......it's all gotten too haevy to carry any longer....oh man , have been a stubborn spirit.;)

It seems you need to spend more time on yourself and stop worrying about what is going on outside. The first step in self healing is knowing that you need it

good luck

flyermay
30-08-2009, 09:40 PM
Try Edgar Cayce, he has a huge library.

Not all western occultism is ritual based although a lot of it is. Kabbalah is a great system and again it does not need ritual. You can use it purely as a map for meditative experience and it will give you much information.

I wouldn't mind if it's based on the kabbalah, but the idea of performing rituals or making pacts with angels gives me creeps.

I started a book that's quite interesting "modern magick (by Kraig)", it explains everything you need to know about all these subjects: research, origins, variations. It also deals a lot with the Kabbalah, highers planes and consciousnesses. The only problem is that most of the practical exercises are based on magick rituals.

I heard of cacey, he's quite famous, but I didn't knew he had any books with practical exercises. Thanks!!!

marpat
30-08-2009, 09:48 PM
I wouldn't mind if it's based on the kabbalah, but the idea of performing rituals or making pacts with angels gives me creeps.

I started a book that's quite interesting "modern magick (by Kraig)", it explains everything you need to know about all these subjects: research, origins, variations. It also deals a lot with the Kabbalah, highers planes and consciousnesses. The only problem is that most of the practical exercises are based on magick rituals.

I heard of cacey, he's quite famous, but I didn't knew he had any books with practical exercises. Thanks!!!

I have used kabbalah loads but I have never done anything like making a pact with an angel. It is a body of knowledge and can be used like the chakra system. The kabbalah is bascially used to approach the godhead not some angel, who are mere servants. Cayces books have some practical stuff in them but they are quite basic in practical terms. Try his Mysteries of the Mind book, you'll probably get it for less than a fiver.

Try The Mystical Qabbalah book by Dion Fortune. It in this link. It gives some descriptions of the Tree of Life. You can use it purely for mediation:

http://www.occult-underground.com/fortune.html

flyermay
30-08-2009, 10:06 PM
I have used kabbalah loads but I have never done anything like making a pact with an angel. It is a body of knowledge and can be used like the chakra system. The kabbalah is bascially used to approach the godhead not some angel, who are mere servants. Cayces books have some practical stuff in them but they are quite basic in practical terms. Try his Mysteries of the Mind book, you'll probably get it for less than a fiver.

Try The Mystical Qabbalah book by Dion Fortune. It in this link. It gives some descriptions of the Tree of Life. You can use it purely for mediation:

http://www.occult-underground.com/fortune.html

I'm probably not describing it right, but as far as I read he says that you have to start all rituals by "clearing the room" from bad influences (the LBRP and things like that). Then he also talks about angels, and how you need to know their name and keys or token to progress through the different levels, and other things like that... really interesting, but too creepy for me :o

So far I read a lot about the tree of life on this book and the history of the kabbalah, but I didn't reach the practical part yet; though I'm afraid it will also consint on more rituals. It also talks about meditation through the tarot, which I tried, and it didn't go that bad.

Actually, while I was reading and practicing that stuff I had a bad feeling one night; I never felt like that before. It was like knowing that something went wrong somewhere far away. I went to sleep and didn't thought about it anymore, but next day it was on all the news: the plane from Brazil to France was lost in the Atlantic that night. I know, I also don't believe in those things!!!

marpat
30-08-2009, 10:16 PM
I'm probably not describing it right, but as far as I read he says that you have to start all rituals by "clearing the room" from bad influences (the LBRP and things like that). Then he also talks about angels, and how you need to know their name and keys or token to progress through the different levels, and other things like that... really interesting, but too creepy for me :o

So far I read a lot about the tree of life on this book and the history of the kabbalah, but I didn't reach the practical part yet; though I'm afraid it will also consint on more rituals. It also talks about meditation through the tarot, which I tried, and it didn't go that bad.

Actually, while I was reading and practicing that stuff I had a bad feeling one night; I never felt like that before. It was like knowing that something went wrong somewhere far away. I went to sleep and didn't thought about it anymore, but next day it was on all the news: the plane from Brazil to France was lost in the Atlantic that night. I know, I also don't believe in those things!!!

If you want to learn kabbalah and dont want to do ritual all you need to do is use a good meditation method then use the ideas, symbols and concepts from the tree of life as the focal point. How they relate and interact will throw up a huge set of relationships in time. Dont get hung up on the idea that you have to study ritual as that is only one path.

Meditation on these things can give you understanding and knowledge but it is not the same as invoking these forces. Perhaps this creepy feeling is part of yourself that feels threatened by expansion of awareness. Sometimes our minds can trick us into not exploring things.

Read the Dion Fortune book. Its quite informative and does not expect you to do rituals. She knows her stuff.

flyermay
30-08-2009, 10:37 PM
If you want to learn kabbalah and dont want to do ritual all you need to do is use a good meditation method then use the ideas, symbols and concepts from the tree of life as the focal point. How they relate and interact will throw up a huge set of relationships in time. Dont get hung up on the idea that you have to study ritual as that is only one path.

Meditation on these things can give you understanding and knowledge but it is not the same as invoking these forces. Perhaps this creepy feeling is part of yourself that feels threatened by expansion of awareness. Sometimes our minds can trick us into not exploring things.

Read the Dion Fortune book. Its quite informative and does not expect you to do rituals. She knows her stuff.

There are 3 books on the webpage:

The Cosmic Doctrine, meant to be a summation of her basic teachings on mysticism,
The Mystical Qabalah, an introduction to Hermetic Qabalah,
Psychic Self Defence, a manual on how to protect one's self from psychic attacks.


But they don't sound like "tutorials" into meditation, are they?

I'm preferably looking for books that teach you how to communicate with your higher self or highers consciousness, instead of the theory. I mean, step by step. For example, like this extract from Kraig:
THE RELAXATION RITUAL

STEP ONE. Sit or lay in a place where you will not be disturbed
for at least five minutes. Remember to unplug the telephone. Get
comfortable. Ifyou are sitting, your back should be straight. Whether
sitting or lying down, your legs and arms should not be crossed. If sitting,
rest your hands, palms down, in your lap. Your eyes should
be closed.

STEP TWO. Visualize a golden ball of beautiful, warm light surrounding
your feet. If you cannot "see" the ball of light when you
visualize it, that is okay. Just know that it is there. Truly know that if
your powers of visualization were different you would be able to see
it. The ball of golden warm light always brings peace and total relaxation.
Whereverthe ball of light goes, tension departs. Let it go, and as it
goes, feel your feet filled with the warm, golden glow of peace and
total relaxation.

STEP THREE. Nowallow this ball of light to rise up your legs and
up your torso. Then allowit to go down your arms to your fingers, and
finally up your neck and into your head until you are completely
covered withthe warm, goldenglow of total peace and relaxation, and
all tension is gone. If you notice tension anywhere, send the 'ball of
light there and the tension will vanish.

STEP:FOUR. Stay in this state of deep relaxation for a few moments.
Know that you can return to this state whenever you like simply by
doing the relaxation ritual. Ifyou are having trouble sleeping, try this
ritual when you lay down at night instead of suffering or taking
dangerous pills. Be at one with yourself.

STEP FIVE. When you are ready to come out of this state of deep
relaxation, take three deep breaths and feel fresh life and energycominginto
yourbodywitheachbreath. Besure to record your experience in
your ritual diary.

marpat
30-08-2009, 11:12 PM
But essentially meditation involves being relaxed and stilling the mind. Anything that helps you do that will be useful. Everything else is just an addition to those basic conditions.

flyermay
30-08-2009, 11:19 PM
But essentially meditation involves being relaxed and stilling the mind. Anything that helps you do that will be useful. Everything else is just an addition to those basic conditions.

Yes, I'm a bit confused about that, and I'm not really sure meditation is the right thing either.

For example, I read that there are 3 levels of consciousness -apart from our ego-: the subconsciousness, the consciousness and the supraconscious.

Can you reach all those 3 levels with simple meditation?

And what happens in each level?

marpat
31-08-2009, 11:59 AM
Yes, I'm a bit confused about that, and I'm not really sure meditation is the right thing either.

For example, I read that there are 3 levels of consciousness -apart from our ego-: the subconsciousness, the consciousness and the supraconscious.

Can you reach all those 3 levels with simple meditation?

And what happens in each level?

There are many levels of consciousness. There are three general ones as you describe but in truth the mind is one continuous field. The difference between the levels is indicated by the type of experience. The higher you go the more abstract things will become as imagery as we know it tends to exist closer to the human mind. Meditation is simply putting yourself into the correct state of mind to interact with those levels so. Dont be put off by a technique that may appear simple. Dont worry to much about what will or wont work and just try it. I learned years ago that worrying about whether something works or not is just pointless and the best thing to do is to try it. Sometimes you will find that some things you had doubts about do actually work well.

Try this link, it may have some information:

http://www.samyeling.org/index.php?module=Pagesetter&func=viewpub&tid=19&pid=1

flyermay
31-08-2009, 01:13 PM
There are many levels of consciousness. There are three general ones as you describe but in truth the mind is one continuous field. The difference between the levels is indicated by the type of experience. The higher you go the more abstract things will become as imagery as we know it tends to exist closer to the human mind. Meditation is simply putting yourself into the correct state of mind to interact with those levels so. Dont be put off by a technique that may appear simple. Dont worry to much about what will or wont work and just try it. I learned years ago that worrying about whether something works or not is just pointless and the best thing to do is to try it. Sometimes you will find that some things you had doubts about do actually work well.

Try this link, it may have some information:

http://www.samyeling.org/index.php?module=Pagesetter&func=viewpub&tid=19&pid=1

Yes, the reasons described on that website will also be quite useful for me -apart from the personal interest I have on the subject-; lately I'm on a constant state of worry and stress.

I found a book by Cayce that might do the work "complete course on meditation". But I noticed that most books containing the name "Edgar Cayce" are actually witten by someone else.

I also had a look at some books from Dion Fortune, but I couldn't find more than the theory on meditation, rather than practical sequential exercises on how to progress.

marpat
31-08-2009, 06:26 PM
Yes, the reasons described on that website will also be quite useful for me -apart from the personal interest I have on the subject-; lately I'm on a constant state of worry and stress.

I found a book by Cayce that might do the work "complete course on meditation". But I noticed that most books containing the name "Edgar Cayce" are actually witten by someone else.

I also had a look at some books from Dion Fortune, but I couldn't find more than the theory on meditation, rather than practical sequential exercises on how to progress.

Edgar Cayce did not actually write the books but the material in them comes from his readings. The only down side is that the writer may have included a bit of their own bias in the books, which does happen at times.

What exactly are you looiking for from meditation? there are different style suited to different mind sets so it could be that one method suits your needs more than another.

I would also learn some basic pranayama exercise as they will help to calm your mind. One good formula is 1-4-2. Basically you breath in for 1, hold for 4 then release for 2, example, breathing in for 5 seconds will mean holding for 20 then releasing for 10.

flyermay
31-08-2009, 07:12 PM
Edgar Cayce did not actually write the books but the material in them comes from his readings. The only down side is that the writer may have included a bit of their own bias in the books, which does happen at times.

What exactly are you looiking for from meditation? there are different style suited to different mind sets so it could be that one method suits your needs more than another.

I would also learn some basic pranayama exercise as they will help to calm your mind. One good formula is 1-4-2. Basically you breath in for 1, hold for 4 then release for 2, example, breathing in for 5 seconds will mean holding for 20 then releasing for 10.

The thing is, I've been practicing meditation on and off for many years; that is, I do it for a couple of weeks and abandon it for the rest of the year. I know... I should be consistent to make it work :o

I ready know some breathing, relaxation and contemplation exercises, but I'm looking for more advanced techniques, how to reach higher levels of consciousness, and so on and forth. Basically, something faster and more effective (but maybe I'm just being impatient, as usual). I also started to meditate with the tarot cards this year; although I was a complete sceptic at the beginning (not any more, once I understood what it's all about).

What I want is to increase my levels of energy, be less stressed and worried, and be more focus on my goals; and of course, experience those higher consciousnesses that everyone talks about.

And if it's possible, without contacting any angels, archangels, demos or taking hallucinogenic drugs. :)

marpat
31-08-2009, 09:39 PM
The thing is, I've been practicing meditation on and off for many years; that is, I do it for a couple of weeks and abandon it for the rest of the year. I know... I should be consistent to make it work :o

I ready know some breathing, relaxation and contemplation exercises, but I'm looking for more advanced techniques, how to reach higher levels of consciousness, and so on and forth. Basically, something faster and more effective (but maybe I'm just being impatient, as usual). I also started to meditate with the tarot cards this year; although I was a complete sceptic at the beginning (not any more, once I understood what it's all about).

What I want is to increase my levels of energy, be less stressed and worried, and be more focus on my goals; and of course, experience those higher consciousnesses that everyone talks about.

And if it's possible, without contacting any angels, archangels, demos or taking hallucinogenic drugs. :)

I think you may be trying to rush things here. What you exhibit is lust of result, which tends to create a barrier to progress. Try to be detached from achieving results and just continue with the methods. Have you tried pathworking? There is a book on pathworking called The Shining Paths by Dolores Ashcroft-nowick that gives guided mediation through the 22 paths.

Your inner state will also be acting as a direct obstacle to success. Until you overcome those blockages you might find it difficult to gain higher awareness. Also, invking very potent forces when you are not balanced is not a good idea as it will further imbalance you so first I would work on getting the emotions under control for now.

You can avoid angelic being by not invoking them. The thing is though that you could invoke the god names but the response needs to get to your mind somehow and unless you have become highly elevated you might find the information coming from an indirect route. The good thing is that there is nothing to stop you testing information, you dont need to accept it at face value, which is where many go wrong.

flyermay
01-09-2009, 06:58 PM
I think you may be trying to rush things here. What you exhibit is lust of result, which tends to create a barrier to progress. Try to be detached from achieving results and just continue with the methods. Have you tried pathworking? There is a book on pathworking called The Shining Paths by Dolores Ashcroft-nowick that gives guided mediation through the 22 paths.

Your inner state will also be acting as a direct obstacle to success. Until you overcome those blockages you might find it difficult to gain higher awareness. Also, invking very potent forces when you are not balanced is not a good idea as it will further imbalance you so first I would work on getting the emotions under control for now.

You can avoid angelic being by not invoking them. The thing is though that you could invoke the god names but the response needs to get to your mind somehow and unless you have become highly elevated you might find the information coming from an indirect route. The good thing is that there is nothing to stop you testing information, you dont need to accept it at face value, which is where many go wrong.

Well, when I started doing meditation many years ago it was just to try it. Then I used it at night when I couldn’t sleep well. So in those occasions I didn’t had any other purpose in mind. It is now for the first time that I’m trying to get something else out of it; but even then, I’m still not sure what (apart from loosing stress).

Are these 22 pathworkings related to the 22 paths of the tree of life? Then yes, I would be really interested. I’ll try to get that book.

I assure you I have absolutely no intention to invoke anyone or anything. The fact is that I don’t really believe in those things, but just in case. :D

simmo
03-09-2009, 09:29 AM
Hey guys I have something that I think everyone will benefit (http://richardlalancette.wordpress.com/category/a-course-in-advanced-mantra-meditation/) from.

Dr Steven Greer is a world class meditation teacher, as well as the founder of the disclosure project. I have purchased the cd (http://richardlalancette.wordpress.com/category/a-course-in-advanced-mantra-meditation/) and used the mantras, his explanation of the nature of consciousness and the structure of the cosmos is worth the price alone.

flyermay
03-09-2009, 12:55 PM
Hey guys I have something that I think everyone will benefit (http://richardlalancette.wordpress.com/category/a-course-in-advanced-mantra-meditation/) from.

Dr Steven Greer is a world class meditation teacher, as well as the founder of the disclosure project. I have purchased the cd (http://richardlalancette.wordpress.com/category/a-course-in-advanced-mantra-meditation/) and used the mantras, his explanation of the nature of consciousness and the structure of the cosmos is worth the price alone.

Thanks Simmo,

I've got some of those CD from other authors some of them are really good; actually, part of what I learned comes from meditation CDs.

I've also been trying the pathworks that Marpat recommended, and I'm quite surprised how well it's going; not only the book is fascinating, but I've also noticed it working on me (it's a long and personal story ;)). The problem is that it's quite a complicated subject involving symbolism -but amazing-, and you also need to know how to meditate and visualise already before starting.

simmo
04-09-2009, 01:51 AM
No Problem :)

Just quietly, have a quick search for the first track on soulseek or perhaps a torrent, the filename you're looking for is:

01. Dr Steven Greer - Cosmic Consciousness Meditation - Disc 1 - 01 - How to use mantra.mp3 [57MB]

I've successfully remote viewed simply from knowing how the cosmos is structured and how very possible it all is. Personally I was in a very lucid dream state, I realised I was 'awake' whilst 'asleep', and I thought in my dream, "right, I want to just GO, and SEE, anywhere!". Suddenly my vision shifted from that of fuzzy blurry dream vision to absolute waking clarity, as if I was standing in the forest and the other areas I quickly viewed, all from within pure consciousness. If there was a newspaper there I could have read it. I didn't know where I went because I literally thought 'anywhere' while I was in the lucid dream state.

Next step for me is to do this from a fully conscious meditative state as opposed to the lucid dream state :)