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thoughtonfire
09-08-2009, 11:50 PM
What if Nine Eleven happened to prevent World War III

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flip side
10-08-2009, 12:14 AM
What if Nine Eleven happened to prevent World War III

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How does this theory work then?

keystone
10-08-2009, 12:32 AM
What if WWIII is happening right here and now and 911 was part of it?

flip side
10-08-2009, 01:15 AM
What if WWIII is happening right here and now and 911 was part of it?


I think that is a far more likely theory!

the om
10-08-2009, 02:56 AM
Ok... thoughtonfire, I said this in your other thread... THINK for yourself, instead of just BLABBERING to yourself!

clint_giles
10-08-2009, 02:58 AM
what if 911 was because they wanted more control of the oil stocks in the middle east ,and it was a great plateau for the start to their global domination

and to get rid of all the ancient history in iraq,babylon,sumer.

no more museums,they have all been blown up and ransancked

no more anything for anyone to figure out..

annunaki proove? gone?
forever? or until 2012 or sooner?

thoughtonfire
10-08-2009, 05:38 AM
what if 911 was because they wanted more control of the oil stocks in the middle east ,and it was a great plateau for the start to their global domination

and to get rid of all the ancient history in iraq,babylon,sumer.

no more museums,they have all been blown up and ransancked

no more anything for anyone to figure out..

annunaki proove? gone?
forever? or until 2012 or sooner?

Of course they would seize any benefits and boons from the tragedy that they possibly could.

holylucifer
10-08-2009, 04:02 PM
What is going to happen is..world war 3 will happen.

9/11 and 7/7 are done by goverment agencies in conjuction with people in the illuminati.

It is to destory religion and replace it with a one world goverment which has always been a one world goverment in illusions with the politicians.

1 – The Basic Doctrine
2 – Economic Wars
3 – Methods of Conquest
4 – Materialism Replaces Religion
5 – Despotism and Modern Progress
6 – Take-Over Technique
7 – World-Wide Wars
8 – Provisional Government
9 – Re-education
10 – Preparing for Power
11 – The Totalitarian State
12 – Control of the Press
13 – Distractions
14 – Assault on Religion
15 – Ruthless Suppression
16 – Brainwashing
17 – Abuse of Authority
18 – Arrest of Opponents
19 – Rulers and People
20 – Financial Programme
21 – Loans and Credit
22 – Power of Gold
23 – Instilling Obedience
24 – Qualities of the Ruler

With the aid of the false coming of christ.

http://100777.com/node/1207

So yea...Christ basicly warned you of these people King of kings' Bible - Revelation 2:9 I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and {I know} the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are NOT, but {are} (Idumeans) the synagogue of Satan.

They are zionist but in reality...satan anti-god.

The reason for war in afganistian iraq and then iran is to merge the economic systems to merge a 1 world goverment...whilst getting everyone to kill each other aiding their depopulation agenda whilst they still live...all these goverments work together.

It is to destory the soverignty which is anti-christ because it deals with the 12 tribes of israel...and i mean when you worship god in spirit properlly you are an israelite..and not the stupid nation in the middle east.

Right in your face http://flashtrafficblog.wordpress.com/2009/07/12/russia-proposes-one-world-currency/ .

I wouldn't even bother with the goverment...they are blood sucking creatures remember :P.

holylucifer
10-08-2009, 04:11 PM
Copyed from overunity.com



Danish research scientist Niels Harrit, on nano-thermite found in the WTC dust ( english subtitles )

"
Tonnes of nano thermite used"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8_tf25lx_3o&feature=player_embedded


WTC owner Larry Silverstein infamous "pull it" video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7WYdAJQV100&feature=player_embedded


More conclusive video evidence

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ezIU6ZxYU3A&feature=player_embedded


Now...when does the criminal investigation start ?

Lets see if the American people have what it takes (patriotic duty) to stand up for the victims and their country ?

You can forget about your elected officials taking any action.

As soon as they found out the anthrax used by the "terrists" in the "attack" was traced back to a CIA lab, those that weren't in on it got the message loud and clear, and turned tail...

Regards...

strengthofknowledge
10-08-2009, 06:10 PM
it was a giant satanic ritual. bush was reading the book upside down, the rotating sphere in the middle resembled the kabaa or w/e its called and the whole classroom was chanting the banned satanic book while the towers were blown up... giant ritual... skipping God is what they tried to accomplish I think..... i take it no one has watched the arrivals? LOL.

secondsun
11-08-2009, 08:07 AM
...9-11 was the start of it... the manufactured Financial Crisis is subsequent part of it...this will worsen...coming you have about 25 or 30 years of militant Muslim/Christian chaos!...then i think the big ones will start dropping!?

http://funk.co.uk/blogpix/London%20-%20Gherkin%20building.jpg

...oh!...and in amongst all that we will have some Flu and starvation stuff going on mixed in with some shortages of various descriptions!

...dig in for the long haul i say!

ibaster
11-08-2009, 06:25 PM
I am curious to know how 9/11 would stop a world war.

I would also state(however obvious I am sure it is to most people here) World War 3 would not resemble World War 2 or previous wars. War has moved on since the old way of fighting war. Modern warfare is waged in the minds as much as it is waged with bombs. So as previously stated 9/11 was more likely just a part of WW3.

meksar
13-08-2009, 01:13 AM
The only way world war 3 will happen if the masses conform to it, if nobody turns up to a war it doesn't happen. Having spoken to people recently they have said they would serve their country, a lot of this video games and movies are glorifying warfare. 9/11 was not a prevention, it was a massive step forward to their agenda of Order out of Chaos.

yozhik
13-08-2009, 10:48 AM
...9-11 was the start of it... the manufactured Financial Crisis is subsequent part of it...this will worsen...coming you have about 25 or 30 years of militant Muslim/Christian chaos!...then i think the big ones will start dropping!?

http://funk.co.uk/blogpix/London%20-%20Gherkin%20building.jpg

...oh!...and in amongst all that we will have some Flu and starvation stuff going on mixed in with some shortages of various descriptions!

...dig in for the long haul i say!

Interesting you should mention the so called Financial Crisis.
Max Keiser has repeatedly stated that in his opinion, the REAL purpose of 9/11 was the destruction of WTC7 ... the Twin Towers were merely a massive decoy.

Elsewhere in this 9/11 Forum is the thread highlighting the issue of the $80 Trillion worth of activity in the Derivatives market and the role the Government has played in that. It certainly goes towards establishing motive. We also need to be mindful of;

The increased activity in the PUT and CALL options ...
The amount of vital paperwork that was destroyed on the day; Enron to name but one ...
The $2 Trillion that was "missing" from the books of the military budget, announced only the day prior to this event ... (and soon forgotten)
The estimated $1.5 Quadrillion ($1,500 Trillion) derivative bubble that currently exists, tipped to pop and unwind ...

"Follow the money ..."

lost_in_translation
13-08-2009, 11:57 AM
what if 911 was because they wanted more control of the oil stocks in the middle east ,and it was a great plateau for the start to their global domination

and to get rid of all the ancient history in iraq,babylon,sumer.

no more museums,they have all been blown up and ransancked

no more anything for anyone to figure out..

annunaki proove? gone?
forever? or until 2012 or sooner?


"they" have always controled the oil and stocks.. waging a war just helps them manipulate them in broad daylight without being seen.. global domination.. shit they have always had that.. the war was about keeping the people seperated.. plain and simple.. fear equals control.. control well thats the power for them. i dont even think its done for just money.. they got plenty of that.. its done to just satisify a sick lust that they have

lost_in_translation
13-08-2009, 12:05 PM
What if Nine Eleven happened to prevent World War III

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could be. please say more

. we have to open our minds a little more and stop always looking for the answers in the same spots... going down the same trail.. listening to the same people..
because i bet if anyone had the answers and were publicly talking they would be dead..
we are all fishing here. to include those people you hold dear like Mr Icke.. the only difference is he gets paid to say what he thinks or what his research has led him to believe.. to many people in here just soak it up word for word like its the word of god and when one comes with a diff theory he gets blasted... and this from the people that are "awake"

being awake to me means finding the truth that lies between the lies.. because people like mr Icke also thrive on your fear to eat.. 3 sides to a story.. the winners side.. the losers side.. then he truth..
pls dont blast people with diff theories.. I love all of you. but we got to come together..

thoughtonfire
13-08-2009, 12:47 PM
could be. please say more

. we have to open our minds a little more and stop always looking for the answers in the same spots... going down the same trail.. listening to the same people..
because i bet if anyone had the answers and were publicly talking they would be dead..
we are all fishing here. to include those people you hold dear like Mr Icke.. the only difference is he gets paid to say what he thinks or what his research has led him to believe.. to many people in here just soak it up word for word like its the word of god and when one comes with a diff theory he gets blasted... and this from the people that are "awake"

being awake to me means finding the truth that lies between the lies.. because people like mr Icke also thrive on your fear to eat.. 3 sides to a story.. the winners side.. the losers side.. then he truth..
pls dont blast people with diff theories.. I love all of you. but we got to come together..

Well thanks,

I have no proof as far as research goes. Only mere speculative conjecture.

A) The Elite are into Mass Sacrifice

B) The Tarot Card: The Tower

C) The postulation that people always believe what they are doing is the correct or right thing to do.

So I'm trying to paint the picture that the Elite saw that a World War 3 was inevitably coming - unless some extreme measures were to be taken. And their Occult Higher Ups perhaps recognized that in some fashion a Massive Sacrifice/Terror-False Flag Attack would be sufficient enough to shift the forces of destiny & fate down a (in their view) more desirable & profitable outcome.

I think it's true though to a certain extent that if you divert from one thing happening it's going to show up in another Karmic form - which others above have suggested that WW3 *is* being fought in a new world order way - in other words a new kind of world war. Is all of this clear enough? I'd hope you take what I've said an expand on it's potential possibilities - I feel like I just surfaced what could be going and of course there is a lot of depth and connections that could be worked into this theory.

And it could even be that when it came down to it, WW3 was going to happen, or something like 911 was going to happen instead. And the forces of the universe chose the lesser of two evils. Not even aware to the powers that be, this could be.

lost_in_translation
13-08-2009, 01:23 PM
Well thanks,

I have no proof as far as research goes. Only mere speculative conjecture.

A) The Elite are into Mass Sacrifice

B) The Tarot Card: The Tower

C) The postulation that people always believe what they are doing is the correct or right thing to do.

So I'm trying to paint the picture that the Elite saw that a World War 3 was inevitably coming - unless some extreme measures were to be taken. And their Occult Higher Ups perhaps recognized that in some fashion a Massive Sacrifice/Terror-False Flag Attack would be sufficient enough to shift the forces of destiny & fate down a (in their view) more desirable & profitable outcome.

I think it's true though to a certain extent that if you divert from one thing happening it's going to show up in another Karmic form - which others above have suggested that WW3 *is* being fought in a new world order way - in other words a new kind of world war. Is all of this clear enough? I'd hope you take what I've said an expand on it's potential possibilities - I feel like I just surfaced what could be going and of course there is a lot of depth and connections that could be worked into this theory.

And it could even be that when it came down to it, WW3 was going to happen, or something like 911 was going to happen instead. And the forces of the universe chose the lesser of two evils. Not even aware to the powers that be, this could be.

maybe the elite dont even want a war.. i believe they are scared because they know the power is in the masses.. what are american soldiers gonna kill americans.. i dont think so.. the tide is against them.. i will be pondering this for the next few hours

yozhik
13-08-2009, 05:25 PM
maybe the elite dont even want a war.. i believe they are scared because they know the power is in the masses.. what are american soldiers gonna kill americans.. i dont think so.. the tide is against them.. i will be pondering this for the next few hours

1. The elite have ALWAYS wanted war ... its "good business."

2. American soldiers won't be shooting Americans; hence the placement of foreign troops on US soil. This emotional/moral dilemma has already been thought of and the solution put in place.

lost_in_translation
13-08-2009, 06:01 PM
1. The elite have ALWAYS wanted war ... its "good business."

2. American soldiers won't be shooting Americans; hence the placement of foreign troops on US soil. This emotional/moral dilemma has already been thought of and the solution put in place.

yes small wars.. but a big war.. no.. to much can go wrong for them.. we are the masses they are the minority.. we would win.. soldiers would side with their families

yozhik
13-08-2009, 09:38 PM
yes small wars.. but a big war.. no.. to much can go wrong for them.. we are the masses they are the minority.. we would win.. soldiers would side with their families

WWI?
WWII?

Both fairly big ... both orchestrated, controlled, financed, manipulated and instigated by the PTB.
Both waged for money, control and to act as a decoy for agenda implementation.

"Collateral damage" ... the body count is merely a numbers game to them, measured in $$$.
If they make more $$$ from the event than it costs; it's profitable and "good business".

lost_in_translation
16-08-2009, 05:46 PM
1. The elite have ALWAYS wanted war ... its "good business."

2. American soldiers won't be shooting Americans; hence the placement of foreign troops on US soil. This emotional/moral dilemma has already been thought of and the solution put in place.

you are crazy if you think the american people would accept another nation to come on our land.. ask the last ones who tried.. the english.. mexicans.. not going to happen.. hat do you think the american soldiers would be doing.. laying down their arms because the nwo told them. . yes war is good business.. i understand that . but the thought of a war like you are saying is .. well not likely.. how many americans have access to guns.. man.. bring it..

clachan
16-08-2009, 08:08 PM
I tend not to read too much into "this happened to cause this and the results are that" sort of complex thinking.Very often thing are much simpler.
I,d say that WW3 will be a major war which is likely to involve WMD,s.
It could kick off anywhere really,people are looking at Iran & Isreal,but what about India & Pakistan ?
Not everything is planned by TPTB,things can just happen and with so much high tech weaponry around it seems inevitable that within the next 25 years they will get used.
911 was a good excuse to control oil supplies and invade places it wouldn,t have been possible to invade otherwise.Ofcourse 911 also had other perks too...WTC7 for example,it had multi-purposes,and maybe the first strike in a lead up something much bigger.We are all just fishing really.
Expect the unexpected.

ndc777
16-08-2009, 08:56 PM
WW3 will involve nuclear weapons.

2011 Nov 11
Suitcase nuke attacks in Jerusalem, Rome, Washington DC.
USA/EU/Israel retaliate with nukes on cities in Muslim nations (+ North Korea, possibly).
Muslims retaliate by with more suitcase nukes in cities in Europe & North America.

After 2011
India v Pakistan will also have a nuclear war.

circa 2019
Nuclear war: USA v China (+ Russia & other former Soviet nations possibly).

2022 Aug 13 - End of WW3
Large asteroid hits Earth in Pacific, wiping out almost all of what is left of humans and animals. Only survivors are in high mountain areas.

avaruus
16-08-2009, 09:52 PM
the thread is called ww3 prevention

not prediction..

mariag
16-08-2009, 10:03 PM
It seems to me its more likely a fear propaganda :(

clachan
16-08-2009, 10:31 PM
the thread is called ww3 prevention

not prediction..

Maybe some think its not preventable

asha loka
16-08-2009, 10:58 PM
Others think it's not predictable.

coco
17-08-2009, 12:22 AM
With respect to seasoned 911'ers this is for the benefit of those who may not know.

http://www.wtc7.net/background.html

Building 7 was one of New York City's larger buildings. A sleek bronze-colored skyscraper with a trapezoidal footprint, it occupied an entire city block and rose over 600 feet above street level.

Built in 1985, it was formerly the headquarters of the junk-bond firm Drexel Burnham Lambert, which contributed to the Savings and Loans collapse, prompting the $500-billion taxpayer-underwritten bailout of the latter 1980s. At the time of its destruction, it exclusively housed government agencies and financial institutions. It contained offices of the IRS, Secret Service, and SEC.

Tenant - Square - Feet - Floor - Industry
Salomon Smith Barney 1,202,900' GRND,1-6,13,18-46 Financial Institution
IRS Regional Council 90,430' 24, 25 Government
U.S. Secret Service 85,343' 9,10 Government
C.I.A. N/A N/A Government
American Express Bank International 106,117' 7,8,13 Financial Institution
Standard Chartered Bank 111,398' 10,13,26,27 Financial Institution
Provident Financial Management 9,000' 7,13 Financial Institution
ITT Hartford Insurance Group 122,590' 19-21 [Insurance]
First State Management Group, Inc 4,000' 21 Insurance
Federal Home Loan Bank 47,490' 22 Financial Institution
NAIC Securities 22,500' 19 Insurance
Securities & Exchange Commission 106,117' 11,12,13 Government
Mayor's Office of Emergency Mgmt 45,815' 23 Government
This list is based on a table published by CNN.com, which did not include CIA, whose tenancy was disclosed after the attack in the New York Times article. 1
One of the most interesting tenants was then-Mayor Giuliani's Office of Emergency Management, and its emergency command center on the 23rd floor. This floor received 15 million dollars worth of renovations, including independent and secure air and water supplies, and bullet and bomb resistant windows designed to withstand 200 MPH winds. 2 The 1993 bombing must have been part of the rationale for the command center, which overlooked the Twin Towers, a prime terrorist target.

How curious that on the day of the attack, Guiliani and his entourage set up shop in a different headquarters, abandoning the special bunker designed precisely for such an event. 3

secondsun
17-08-2009, 08:14 AM
Max Keiser has repeatedly stated that in his opinion, the REAL purpose of 9/11 was the destruction of WTC7 ... the Twin Towers were merely a massive decoy.

..in my opinion... the Twin Towers were built for the ultimate purpose for which they served!... building 7 was built at a later date!... so that don`t quite add up does it!?.... anyway who`s Max Keiser?... fair guess he`s probably one of them and just talks a load of bull` like many others!?

drc_
17-08-2009, 06:41 PM
Well thanks,

I have no proof as far as research goes. Only mere speculative conjecture.

A) The Elite are into Mass Sacrifice

9/11 is your proof of that. It was a mass ritual sacrifice (the destruction of the gates to the old world, Boaz & Jachin, and the start of the final stages towards working to the new world (order)).

B) The Tarot Card: The Tower

This has a striking resemblance to the burning WTC towers. And when you take into account that the elite we talk about, are very much into the occult (just research the societies they're involved with, understand how rituals works energy and it all becomes very clear) and stuff like that, then this could very well be a hint hidden in plain sight. But who knows...

C) The postulation that people always believe what they are doing is the correct or right thing to do.

People know in their hearts what is right. The problem is that we've been completely disconnected from the heart, and are more likely to think with our heads. And then all the manipulation and insane views of the world come into play. The will tell you very different things sometimes, because it's been fucked with from birth. Just like you said just know, people BELIEVE that what they're doing is right. They've been implanted with a believe, which has nothing to do with what they feel.

So I'm trying to paint the picture that the Elite saw that a World War 3 was inevitably coming - unless some extreme measures were to be taken. And their Occult Higher Ups perhaps recognized that in some fashion a Massive Sacrifice/Terror-False Flag Attack would be sufficient enough to shift the forces of destiny & fate down a (in their view) more desirable & profitable outcome.

I think it's true though to a certain extent that if you divert from one thing happening it's going to show up in another Karmic form - which others above have suggested that WW3 *is* being fought in a new world order way - in other words a new kind of world war. Is all of this clear enough? I'd hope you take what I've said an expand on it's potential possibilities - I feel like I just surfaced what could be going and of course there is a lot of depth and connections that could be worked into this theory.

And it could even be that when it came down to it, WW3 was going to happen, or something like 911 was going to happen instead. And the forces of the universe chose the lesser of two evils. Not even aware to the powers that be, this could be.

Interesting theory. Only it raises a few questions. If they were preventing WW3, then who do you think WW3 would have been between? The elite and..? Cause we've already established that there is an elite and they're working together. Either they decide to fight amongst each other over dominance (which they do of course, but not if it interferes with the great plan) or it's yet another tool for them to achieve their ultimate goal. I think the latter makes much more sense, but that just me.

I'm quite interested in some more details of your theory. Because it still raises a lot of questions, hehe. 9/11 being a ritual and a ritualistic way of achieving many goals at the same time still seems the truth to me.

thoughtonfire
26-08-2009, 08:49 AM
Apparently,

Dan Burisch has already put forth this theory as early/late as November 2007 in the Project Camelot interview part 4. 9/11 was the less of two possible time lines viewed through Looking Glass. Though Dan Burisch did not meantion the second (more evil) outcome, he does say the elite powers that be, chose 9/11 as the lesser of two evils.

There you have it.

umbrex
26-08-2009, 09:33 AM
what is redundance?!?!