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Anders Lindman
08-08-2009, 06:57 PM
JFK was a public figure deliberately made president to order the moon mission and then to be sacrificed (that's a fact, debate over :p;)). Has Obama also been (s)elected president just to order something that is unpopular among those with real understanding, but something the public will swallow hook, line and sinker, such as ordering a massive U.S. program to combat the 'climate change', and then to be sacrificed, just like JFK?
antipharisee
08-08-2009, 07:43 PM
The Jews want a popular president in order to have him draw us into war, and they will attempt to win Obama popularity by falsely portraying him as if a great and benevolent man. They will have him give out cash to the country. They will manufacture a cult of personality around him. Then they will start World War III. As I predicted long ago, the Israeli vampires are after Russian blood and Obama and Medvedev are poised to give it to them. Look forward to American cities in flames. That is the future of Obama's benevolence.
http://jewishracism.blogspot.com/2008/11/barack-obama-psychological-profile.html
Anders Lindman
08-08-2009, 08:00 PM
The Jews want a popular president in order to have him draw us into war, and they will attempt to win Obama popularity by falsely portraying him as if a great and benevolent man. They will have him give out cash to the country. They will manufacture a cult of personality around him. Then they will start World War III. As I predicted long ago, the Israeli vampires are after Russian blood and Obama and Medvedev are poised to give it to them. Look forward to American cities in flames. That is the future of Obama's benevolence.
http://jewishracism.blogspot.com/2008/11/barack-obama-psychological-profile.html
I haven't researched any Zionist connections. So I don't know much about that. I did however find this recent pro climate change propaganda video (the first 11 minutes of the video or so):
Earth Focus: Greening the Military - YouTube
Anders Lindman
08-08-2009, 08:30 PM
What we should expect to see soon is a lot of news media reporting and television programs about climate change, and how exceedingly important it is that we do something about it immediately. Based on lies of course. Selective statistics from 'authoritative' scientific studies showing how our planet is on the brink of a climate disaster. Sheer propaganda. The 'problem' in a big problem-reaction-solution scheme (or more accurately in reality the 'no-problem' version David Icke has described).
After that, when the public has been bombarded with this kind of propaganda, there will be a 'reaction' phase, where people will say: "Climate change! This can't go on. Something must be done. What are THEY going to do about it?"
The solution phase: Barack Obama orders a massive U.S. climate change combat program.
Anders Lindman
08-08-2009, 08:56 PM
And to kick start this sinister scheme, what would be more appropriate than a couple of huge hurricanes stirred up through weather control technologies, and then blamed on climate change.
Watch out for Hurricane Wanda et. al. :eek:
Anders Lindman
08-08-2009, 09:40 PM
"On Tuesday, Obama despatched a quartet of officials to the Senate to drum up support for the move to a clean energy economy.
Lisa Jackson, the head of the Environmental Protection Agency, likened the decades ahead to the SPACE RACE of the mid-20th century, saying America risked being left behind if it did not jump to develop clean energy technologies." [my emphasis]
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/jul/09/congress-climate-change
Anders Lindman
08-08-2009, 09:58 PM
A New Chapter on Climate Change - YouTube
YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.
uchanan - Climate Bill Is Transfer Of Wealth To World Government - YouTube
rampagen
09-08-2009, 12:34 AM
JFK was a public figure deliberately made president to order the moon mission and then to be sacrificed (that's a fact, debate over :p;)). Has Obama also been (s)elected president just to order something that is unpopular among those with real understanding, but something the public will swallow hook, line and sinker, such as ordering a massive U.S. program to combat the 'climate change', and then to be sacrificed, just like JFK?
sheeperson
secondsun
09-08-2009, 04:48 AM
sheeperson
...or disinfo` agent!
Anders Lindman
09-08-2009, 05:21 AM
Fear-mongering 20th century style propaganda:
Sir David Attenborough: The Truth About Climate Change - YouTube
The hoax being exposed:
The hockey stick is wrong and result of bad science. - YouTube
Anders Lindman
09-08-2009, 08:10 AM
And it's not just an American issue. One event to keep an eye on is the upcoming United Nations Climate Change Conference 2009 (COP15), to be held December 7 to December 18, 2009 in Copenhagen, Denmark.
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From guardian.co.uk:
What is the Copenhagen climate change summit?
From December 7 environment ministers and officials will meet in Copenhagen for the United Nations climate conference to thrash out a successor to the Kyoto protocol. The conference, held at the modern Bella Center, will run for two weeks. The talks are the latest in an annual series of UN meetings that trace their origins to the 1992 Earth Summit in Rio, which aimed at coordinating international action against climate change.
What does COP15 stand for?
COP15 is the official name of the Copenhagen climate change summit — the 15th Conference of the Parties (COP) under the United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change (UNFCCC). The COP is the highest body of the UNFCCC and consists of environment ministers who meet once a year to discuss developments in the convention.
Which countries are taking part in the climate change summit, and how many people will be there?
One hundred and ninety-two countries have signed the climate change convention. More than 15,000 officials, advisers, diplomats, campaigners and journalists are expected to attend COP15, joined by heads of state and government.
Who are the main players?
Developing countries, including China and India, believe it is the responsibility of wealthy industrialised nations such as the UK and US to set a clear example on cutting carbon emissions. Significantly, the US rejected the 1997 Kyoto protocol, with George Bush arguing that the 5% reductions required by Kyoto would "wreck [the American] economy" while making no demands on emerging economies. COP15's chances of success have been improved by President Barack Obama's stated intention [my emphasis :p:D] to achieve an 80% reduction of greenhouse gas emissions by 2050.
In April, the secretary of state, Hillary Clinton, acknowledged the role the US had played in past climate emissions at a gathering of officials from the world's 17 largest economies. She said the US was "determined to make up for lost time both at home and abroad". "The US is no longer absent without leave," she said. However, Denmark's minister for climate and energy, Connie Hedegaard, has warned that American leadership on climate change will be undermined if the Obama administration does not pass laws swiftly to reduce carbon pollution.
What does the summit hope to achieve?
Officials will try to agree a new climate treaty as a successor to the Kyoto protocol, the first phase of which expires in 2012. According to Yvo de Boer, executive secretary of the UNFCCC, the four essentials needing an international agreement in Copenhagen are:
1 How much are industrialised countries willing to reduce their emissions of greenhouse gases?
2 How much are major developing countries such as China and India willing to do to limit the growth of their emissions?
3 How is the help needed by developing countries to engage in reducing their emissions and adapting to the impacts of climate change going to be financed?
4 How is that money going to be managed?
What are the sticking points?
The main issue is that of "burden-sharing". Climate scientists say that the world must stop the growth in greenhouse gas emissions and start making them fall from around 2015 to 2020. By 2050 they estimate the world must cut its emissions by 80% compared with 1990 levels to limit global warming to a 2C average rise.
But which countries must make the cuts and by how large should they be? For example, the rapidly growing Chinese economy has recently overtaken America as the world's largest emitter of carbon dioxide. Yet America has historically emitted far more emissions than China, and on a per capita basis Chinese emissions are around a quarter of those of the US.
The Chinese government argues that it has a moral right to develop and grow its economy — carbon emissions will inevitably grow with it. There is also the issue of industrialised nations effectively outsourcing carbon emissions to developing nations such as China. This is a consequence of huge quantities of carbon-intensive manufacturing taking place in China on behalf of buyers in the west. It wants consumer countries to take responsibility for the carbon emissions generated in the manufacture of goods, not the producer countries that export them.
Problems such as these have cast doubts on whether COP15 can succeed. There are also concerns about whether any action we take now to prevent climate change may be too little too late. A Guardian poll revealed almost nine out of 10 climate scientists do not believe political efforts to restrict global warming to an additional 2C — the level the EU defines as "dangerous" — will succeed.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2009/may/01/q-and-a-copenhagen-summit
COP15 official site: http://en.cop15.dk/
Anders Lindman
09-08-2009, 10:09 AM
There are parallels between the space race in the 20th century and the current climate change issue: JFK talked about the Soviet Union being ahead of America in the space race. Here Barack Obama is talking about the European Union being ahead of America in combating climate change:
PRESIDENT OBAMA: "In terms of climate change, ultimately the world is going to need targets that it can meet. It can't be general, vague approaches. We're going to have to make some tough decisions and take concrete actions if we are going to deal with a potentially cataclysmic disaster. And we are seeing progress in Congress around energy legislation that would set up for the first time in the United States a cap and trade system. That process is moving forward in ways that I think if you had asked political experts two or three months ago would have seemed impossible.
So I'm actually more optimistic than I was about America being able to take leadership on this issue, joining Europe, which over the last several years has been ahead of us on this issue.
As I told Chancellor Merkel, unless the United States and Europe, with our large carbon footprints, per capita carbon footprints, are willing to take some decisive steps, it's going to be very difficult for us to persuade countries that on a per capita basis at least are still much less wealthy, like China or India, to take the steps that they're going to need to take in controlling carbon emissions.
So we are very committed to working together and hopeful that we can arrive in Copenhagen having displayed that commitment in concrete ways."
http://www.whitehouse.gov/the_press_office/Remarks-By-President-Obama-And-Chancellor-Merkel-In-Press-Availability-6-5-09/
Anders Lindman
09-08-2009, 10:51 AM
PRESIDENT OBAMA: "... So we are very committed to working together and hopeful that we can arrive in Copenhagen having displayed that commitment in concrete ways."
The start of the concrete ways Obama talked about would be the cap and trade bill:
"House Passes Carbon Cap-and-Trade Bill
June 26, 2009, will go down as an historic moment in world’s efforts to tackle climate change. For the first time, a Congressional body passed legislation that would place mandatory limits on the emissions of the greenhouse gases that cause global warming.
...
The legislation itself is enormous. It’s more than a thousand pages long, filled with obscure provisions that will keep an army of lobbyists employed for years.
...
There’s still a long road ahead for the legislation. The Senate isn’t expected to take up the issue until fall at the earliest—and the path to passage there will be tougher."
http://www.businessweek.com/blogs/money_politics/archives/2009/06/house_passes_ca.html
Change power behavior - YouTube
Anders Lindman
09-08-2009, 11:33 AM
Again a reference to the Apollo program in relation to carbon cap and climate change (from about about 1:00 in the video):
"Liftoff for the New Apollo Energy Project
...
My colleagues may not have recalled the first Apollo project as they set a cap on carbon and set national goals for clean-electricity production. But ... I saw the similarities between the two innovation revolutions. Last time, we went to the moon. This time, our technological genius and entrepreneurial zeal will turn to the task of saving this planet." -- Congressman Jay Inslee
Inslee on C-SPAN show "Washington Journal" - YouTube
Anders Lindman
09-08-2009, 04:49 PM
I don't really believe Barack Obama will be sacrificed like JFK. There is probably no need for that. The climate change issue is simply used as an excuse to deal with a global peak oil problem. But there are some interesting parallels between the moon mission and the climate change program unfolding.