The NWO isn't so bad........is it??

[james777]

I've been doing some thinking lately and have come to the conclusion that the NWO isn't so bad after all. I mean we've turned this world into shit because of the decisions we've made(humans). We're selfish, self-centered, ignorant, arrogant, compulsive, violent...ect...I'm not referring to everyone, but overall!

It seems as if the powers that be are forced into a situation where if they don't totally control and dominate every aspect of our lives then we'll self destruct. I believe it's our fault because we haven't been doing our job and helping our fellow brothers and sisters in this world. There is no love anymore. This planet is turning into a dark hole of hatred, anger, violence....ect.

The NWO is only trying to gain control so we can be at peace. Just think, once they manufacture enough bullshit and have enough wars and control what they want to control, then we'll have a peaceful existence. Would you rather have peace or freedom? Or are they the same?

I used to be totally against the NWO, but in reality they're no different then most 'everyday' people..........

[chattanova]

I'm really not sure if totally anarchy would work at this planet either,
just look at all the maniacs around.
That could result in a disaster in worst case...

But they control us way to much as it is now!

[bennett211085]

well they want 80-90% of the poulation dead so I dont really want to play a game of international russian roulette.

[phoebe]

The New World Order
Is nothing more than the self-imposed
Mind-prison we have fabricated for ourselves
For the reasons you give above.
We are trying to protect us from ourselves.

And furthermore...
The longer people keep using words like 'they'
To describe who the NWO are
It'll just keep spinning on and on.
It's US for heaven's sake.
We.
Us.
Collective.

[phoebe]

well they want 80-90% of the poulation dead so I dont really want to play a game of international russian roulette.

'They' do?
So why haven't 'they' already pulled it off?

[melbo]

we've turned this world into shit because of the decisions we've made(humans).

I haven't turned this world into shit. Masses of people have been manipulated by the illuminati's puppets into turning this world shit and it's taken a lot of time and planning. All of it is working towards the NWO, so how can the NWO be good. All it will do is turn us all into slaves. The EU is totally corrupt and run by people who aren't elected. The NWO will just be an even larger version of this with even more power.

[Anders Lindman]

I have started pushing for a World Federation. The New World Order wants to control all people. The World Federation would not control or try to control any people. The World Federation would control nations. That's entirely different from the NWO.

[baron von lotsov]

[COLOR="RoyalBlue"][b]I've been doing some thinking lately and have come to the conclusion that the NWO isn't so bad after all. I mean we've turned this world into shit because of the decisions we've made(humans). We're selfish, self-centered, ignorant, arrogant, compulsive, violent...ect...I'm not referring to everyone, but overall!




Guess what?

The NWO elite have socially engineered the masses to be exactly as you describe in order to make this apparent 'solution' appear sensible. Obviously you have not dug deep enough into the mechanisms and the webs they spin.

Don't underestimate the elite, they got a proper education that was not tainted with disinfo but on the contrary it was education on how to exploit the masses passed down to them from some very clever people. I'm talking about the ones who gained the political power in the early days. You can't do that if you are dumb so you need to look further than what you were taught.

[william_mac]

I've been doing some thinking lately and have come to the conclusion that the NWO isn't so bad after all. I mean we've turned this world into shit because of the decisions we've made(humans). We're selfish, self-centered, ignorant, arrogant, compulsive, violent...ect...I'm not referring to everyone, but overall!

It seems as if the powers that be are forced into a situation where if they don't totally control and dominate every aspect of our lives then we'll self destruct. I believe it's our fault because we haven't been doing our job and helping our fellow brothers and sisters in this world. There is no love anymore. This planet is turning into a dark hole of hatred, anger, violence....ect.

The NWO is only trying to gain control so we can be at peace. Just think, once they manufacture enough bullshit and have enough wars and control what they want to control, then we'll have a peaceful existence. Would you rather have peace or freedom? Or are they the same?

I used to be totally against the NWO, but in reality they're no different then most 'everyday' people..........

In America the original way that our government was conducted was that the Federal Government had no say in the lives of everyday citizens. We were a nation made up of States, and there were cities within those states, and towns within those counties. Local government ruled itself. All local schools were paid for by the people in the town, the curriculum was picked and moderated by those same people, and the main focus was on what your local city/state government was doing. So each state, although part of a union, was completely separate from each other. That, to me, sounds like a damn good idea, and reasonable at that.

However, now what do I see? I see the Federal Government owns the public school system by funding them primarily instead of local government. I see the curriculums are out of the control of the local people, and I see that the curriculums are becoming one curriculum throughout the nation, and all of the children are getting dumber. The same thing is happening in the colleges and universities.

I see now that local government is no long local government, and that the Federal Government has a Vice grip on the nation as a whole. I see everything becoming centralized, I see a big fear sweeping in, and everyone is afraid.

Let me tell you something, you say there is no love? There is plenty of love. The fact is that community is a synonym for government, and when the majority of human beings are doing something that benefits them, then the minority will very seldom refrain from beginning to follow in the same track.

What I'm trying to say is that the centralization of power, like the Associated Press, the banks, and government, is not good for anyone. Whereas, even just 50 years ago, people were better versed in math, sciences, critical thinking, economy, world affairs, and so forth... now the kids just want a job and they don't care, because they aren't being taught. Now if there is to be an orginization begun that wants to help people? It has to go through all of the necessary proceadures to be accepted by the Federal Government, in which restrictions can be imposed, and licenses taken away at any time. This is not beneficial to us.

We rule ourselves, if we want to be violent and hateful, then goddamnit we need to be able to be so. But most people are not violent and hateful, and if we've become unloving, it's because we've become detached, dumb, and self-consumed. If power was not centralized, and if the city/states worked like they were supposed to, then guess what? I would not be worrying to much about the world as a connected government, I would be worrying more about my own government. I would buy food from a locally owned store, go to school in a locally owned and funded school, and my tax dollars and urged policies are things that I would be able to see happen before my eyes.

If the government was not centralized so much in America, and the banks were not, then I would not be spending money with imaginary revenue. I would have something of real value. Then I could grow as a human being, I could have more time to think and to study, I could start an organization to help someone over-seas and not have to be restricted as to taxes and funding. I would be able to get money by donation, and go. That's it.

NWO is not good. The world does not need order, the world needs community. As it is, the only thing the NWO has done is rip that close community away from us, and replace it with a power border, in which we cower to. It has turned into self-consumed people who simply have to work, and work to pay taxes and bills and keep their electronics running and their televisions going and their cell phone's minutes up. But we pay with imaginary revenue, and work for imaginary "points". And we're just running around in circles, and we don't have time to think, to learn, to love, to develop community. We only have to think about how we can be more comfortable, or how we can have enough money so we don't have to worry.

We could have free energy, better schools, local food production, and no governments telling people what should or should not happen, but we don't. And as for the people fighting in the middle east, as for all of the age old civil wars between people. Give me one big nation that lives in contentment with each other, and who has control over their government, and who has free energy, and has people with great educations, and has people who talk sensibly to each other, and the rest of the world will pay attention. They will say "that seems like a good idea" so they will follow. And even the civil wars, both sides will say "this isn't beneficial for us... none of this is" and they will follow the majority that is receive pleasure.

NWO is a bad idea, it does nothing for anyone. It is a flawed and failed system designed to make people drones, and enslave us with debt and stupidity and ignorance.



-William

[Anders Lindman]

In America the original way that our government was conducted was that the Federal Government had no say in the lives of everyday citizens. We were a nation made up of States, and there were cities within those states, and towns within those counties. Local government ruled itself. All local schools were paid for by the people in the town, the curriculum was picked and moderated by those same people, and the main focus was on what your local city/state government was doing. So each state, although part of a union, was completely separate from each other. That, to me, sounds like a damn good idea, and reasonable at that.


That's exactly what I mean by a World Federation, except the states in this case would be nations. The World Federation would leave all nation to continue exactly as before except for only one thing: The World Federation would be the only institution that would create money in the world, and that would be done in the form of interest-free U.S. dollar loans to the nations.

[archangel]

selfish, self-centered, ignorant, arrogant, compulsive, violent

Please give examples. Tell me how these problems will disappear if there is a NWO? why would it change?

no different than everyday people? So you think most people get their neighbor to put their name on their will and then strangle them in their sleep to get the money faster? if a person is aggitated that the neighbors dog barks, he just walks over and poisons his food? I don't think MOST people act like that.

rather have peace or freedom? Freedom for sure.

Yes , you need laws to keep order but have limited amount of laws. There can't be lawlessness. Hell, if you want to get rid of crime and so forth. have stiffer punishment. someone steals, chop their hand off. if a a guy rapes,tortures, and murders someones, give a a horrible death, torture him and impale him on the stake. that'll strop alot of crimes against humanity real fast!!

but I don't want all of my rights taken away. And i don't want some gov't official telling me everything I can and can not do. and deciding what is good or bad for me based on their Opinion. I already think its rediculous right now!!! i can only imagine in the future.

Example, I am very into bodybuilding, fitness, etc. The gov't is always passsing laws saying, this supplement is bad, take it off the shelf. etc. when they have NO proof that it is bad. These same people do not allow herbs to be advertised as healing cures either!! I have first hand experience through blood work that certain OTC supplements work better than drugs for treating illness yet they don't allow them to me marketed b/c it goes agaist big business drug companies. These out of shape, sloppy pieces of shit know nothing about health, fitness, etc. but they will ban protein, ephedra, hormones yet people can Smoke and Drink!!!!!! unbelievable.
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I hate the MAN trying telling people what they can and can not put into their body. If I want to put a supplement into my body, don't you worry about it. Hell even if its bad for me, which most are not, its none of your business. Understand?

I think the idea of a one world order is not that bad but any jack ass can see they are doing it for the wrong reason. with one world goverment and society,etc. there will even more centralization of power than there is now. I fully endorse the motto that " ABSOLUTE POWER CORRUPTS ABSOLUTELY""

[william_mac]

That's exactly what I mean by a World Federation, except the states in this case would be nations. The World Federation would leave all nation to continue exactly as before except for only one thing: The World Federation would be the only institution that would create money in the world, and that would be done in the form of debt-free U.S. dollar loans to the nations.

I don't know about the money thing. I suppose that may work. I'd have to do some more thinking and research on it, though.



-William
www.William-Mac.com

[Anders Lindman]

I don't know about the money thing. I suppose that may work. I'd have to do some more thinking and research on it, though.

I made a big mistake in the text. It should be interest-free loans, not debt-free loans as I wrote.

[chicken_little]

I've been doing some thinking lately and have come to the conclusion that the NWO isn't so bad after all. I mean we've turned this world into shit because of the decisions we've made(humans). We're selfish, self-centered, ignorant, arrogant, compulsive, violent...ect...I'm not referring to everyone, but overall!

It seems as if the powers that be are forced into a situation where if they don't totally control and dominate every aspect of our lives then we'll self destruct. I believe it's our fault because we haven't been doing our job and helping our fellow brothers and sisters in this world. There is no love anymore. This planet is turning into a dark hole of hatred, anger, violence....ect.

The NWO is only trying to gain control so we can be at peace. Just think, once they manufacture enough bullshit and have enough wars and control what they want to control, then we'll have a peaceful existence. Would you rather have peace or freedom? Or are they the same?

I used to be totally against the NWO, but in reality they're no different then most 'everyday' people..........

James, I think I understand your perspective. But I have to strongly disagree.

There are days when I too feel as though I live in a world that is so vile, so violent, so terrible, that I would rather bar the door and never leave home. But when I think about it, I am convinced that normal people like us aren't the ones screwing up our world.

The problem is ignorance, pure and simple. The mass media tells the world something and the vast majority of the people accept it. People vote, take up religious beliefs, form racial hatred, and make other incorrect assumptions blindly, based solely on what the media says or how they were raised or what so-and-so told them they read on the internet.

If people would start to think for themselves, educate themselves, and stand up for what they think, then our world would come around and get better. We don't need a bunch of egotistical, money-driven, war-mongering, mass murderers controlling us, leading us down a road that only they can see, recording every action we take, and manipulating our futures.

I remember watching the Star Trek movie "First Contact" and really appreciating when they talk about how the everything in the world changed dramatically when the people of Earth had their first visit by beings from another planet. Everyone began to come together, cooperate, and did so peacefully. Could you imagine that? Man! A world in which everyone is working together for the better good of mankind, not for the better good of a handful of powerful people.

[chicken_little]

Awesome stuff william_mac. I was thinking a lot of the same things but you put them into words very well. Thanks for sharing that.

[Anders Lindman]

I made a big mistake in the text. It should be interest-free loans, not debt-free loans as I wrote.

And the loans would not be in U.S. dollars as I wrote. All loans would be in Inflero, a currency only used between nations and the World Federation. Inflero would be deliberately inflationary, so that one Inflero would be worth less and less each year. The inflation will be directly proportional to the amount of Infleros created each year.

The nations would still have their own currencies, but all currencies such as the U.S. dollar, pound sterling, euro, yuan etc would be directly tied to the Inflero. Each nation would be able to determine how many Infleros their own currency would represent, so that they would not need to follow the same inflation rate as the Inflero (this is only for practical purposes and does not affect the actual value of the currency since it is always tied only to the Inflero).

[Anders Lindman]

Each nation would be able to determine how many Infleros their own currency would represent, so that they would not need to follow the same inflation rate as the Inflero.

Oops. That was a bad idea. Then nations could start to create cash that would diverge from the actual value. Plus, it would destroy today's currency trade market.

A better idea is to leave the currency market just as it is, but that when a government needed more money, then they would have to borrow Infleros from the World Federation. The value of the Inflero would be determined by the currency market, just as the other existing currencies are determined by that market today.

[james777]

Everyone is making good points, I was just thinking those thoughts for little while......

[william_mac]

Everyone is making good points, I was just thinking those thoughts for little while......


I just don't trust authority. I sometimes think that there should be a world government that should help everyone and make things seemingly easier and whatever, sort of like the current NWO is trying to make us think they are doing. But, then I realize something. I realize that I'm sitting there thinking about "if the world had my views". Then I think, man, that's not right, they need to have their own; who's to say I won't be corrupt?

Government is SOOOO fucking hard to figure out. Without it there is insanity, with too much of it there is oppression. It's such a hard thing to figure out. However, I think that a lot of our government systems, in theory, work just fine. They would work if there weren't a lot of mad men who have infiltrated those systems and taken it over, and centralized it.

I wrote a report and made a video on my blog about education, and I think the following excerpt from that blog will fit in here. It is as follows:

One of my favorite founding fathers, Thomas Jefferson, once wrote a bill called “Bill for the More General Diffusion of Knowledge” and one of the quotes from this Bill is as follows: “Experience hath shown, that even under the best forms [of government], those entrusted with power have, in time, and by slow operations, perverted it into tyranny; and it is believed that the most effectual means of preventing this would be, to illuminate, as far as practicable, the minds of the people at large, and more especially to give them knowledge of those facts, which history exhibiteth, that possessed thereby of the experience of other ages and countries, they may be enabled to know ambition under all its shapes, and prompt them to exert their natural powers to defeat its purposes.”

Thomas Jefferson says that the education of the people is what prevents tyranny, of which he illustrates is an inevitable temptation for those in power who run even the greatest government “those entrusted with power” and who will always “in time, and by slow operations, [pervert that government] into tyranny”.

Thomas Jefferson understood that tyranny is a temptation to all who are in power. He also understood that the main purpose and reason for education was not training for a particular job, but more so that the people would be able to keep control over their government. For in a democracy, if people are not educated in what is going on in their government, and the world, that government is then left to do whatever its’ rulers in power wish to do - because the people are not paying attention, and because the people are ignorant. Therefore, the people (in this case the American people) can be lied to, especially when the majority will not ask questions; the most dangerous thing is for the majority not to ask questions, and not to pay attention. In a democracy, even a representative democracy such as ours, the people should have control. Is this not the entire point? The government should be afraid of the power of the people, not the inverse.

You know, goddamn. I just wish I could figure the whole thing out. But right now, to tell you the truth, I don't want to struggle so hard, and fight so hard just to be left alone, just so that I will be able to be free and unafraid of the authorities towering over me. I just wish that I could be allowed not to fit into the system, and I wouldn't have to worry about it. But, the system has always been against me before i knew what it was. They kicked me out of the schools, the workplaces, and all other conventional locations... all because i didn't fit the mold. Yet, I don't see much diffence between myself and our beloved Founding Fathers. I just don't, a lot of them were the real deal... a classic example (and one of the few) where an idealism became a working system. Yet, here we are, and i find myself just wishing that America, my country and the country in which I have much faith in, would just be like it was meant to be, and indeed restore itself to a great nation.

Really, friend, sometimes you want to say "fuck it! Take it! I give up! Just let me do what I want in my home! Just let me be at peace in my fucking home, and you do what you want without any check or balance on my part". But, hey, that thing inside us won't let most of us stop. However, if I had my say, I would have never of even found out about what I know now. I would have remained ignorant, and I would have just been a fiction writer and whimsical painter and wayward traveler. If I had my way I would be happy. But, it's hard to keep that joyful countenence and faith that so many ignorant people seem to have, when you know the harsh realities. Eh? We have to keep going on, and working hard. Else... what are we doing? Hell, at least we have something to do.

I don't think that the current earth's population could deal with living if they didn't have conflict, hah hah.



-William
www.William-Mac.com

[kasalt]

well they want 80-90% of the poulation dead so I dont really want to play a game of international russian roulette.

I read the above quote and then I went to the "Speaking in Tongues" thread in the "Religion" forum where I was suprised to read the following from snoopsnuffleopagus:

Before Yahshuas return, 9/10s of all humans that were alive will be dead from the effects of Global Thermonuclear War...
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=7330&page=13

So...the Illuminati/NWO is conspiring to fulfill biblical prophecy, right?

[limelady]

James777 said
The NWO is only trying to gain control so we can be at peace.

Well if you consider "peace" having every aspect of your life controlled from birth to death, being microchipped and watched constantly, or the prospect of spending time in detention centres for having views that differ from those of the controllers, then I guess you could be on to something James......but I'm not sure what :eek:

I don't think humanity is as bad as you're making it out to be....I just don't think we've ever had a fair crack at figuring out who we really are, and its high time we did. We need to learn a better way to just 'be' and we will. :)

[klinker]

The NWO is only trying to gain control so we can be at peace.

Get a grip for fucksake James.

[montag]

The NWO is only trying to gain control so we can be at peace.

The NWO is only trying to gain control so they can be at peace.

[gonzo power]

Yes, yes it is bad. Looks like someone is overdue for a trip to the deprogramming machine.

[kblood]

I've been doing some thinking lately and have come to the conclusion that the NWO isn't so bad after all. I mean we've turned this world into shit because of the decisions we've made(humans). We're selfish, self-centered, ignorant, arrogant, compulsive, violent...ect...I'm not referring to everyone, but overall!

It seems as if the powers that be are forced into a situation where if they don't totally control and dominate every aspect of our lives then we'll self destruct. I believe it's our fault because we haven't been doing our job and helping our fellow brothers and sisters in this world. There is no love anymore. This planet is turning into a dark hole of hatred, anger, violence....ect.

The NWO is only trying to gain control so we can be at peace. Just think, once they manufacture enough bullshit and have enough wars and control what they want to control, then we'll have a peaceful existence. Would you rather have peace or freedom? Or are they the same?

I used to be totally against the NWO, but in reality they're no different then most 'everyday' people..........

Hmmm... I rather think you are beginning to be an enlightened one as well ;)

[lydia78]

So in one whole week you just changed your your mind, just like that!!....this is your post from the 7th Aug on a different thread;

"The 'NWO' is the exact opposite and direct enemy of 'christians'. Why do you think the 'NWO' litters hundreds of religions and sub-religions all over and why they 'encourage' open-mindedness? It's of course because they need people to (1) Be totally confused (2) Help them fight and hate christians and (3) be blinded by obvious truth."

It's simple 'brainwash' tactics and most fall for it, never even realizing it and are willing to fight to the death over their lack of understanding......



So what new understanding have you gained exactly?? I am intrigued..

[Anders Lindman]

I've been doing some thinking lately and have come to the conclusion that the NWO isn't so bad after all. I mean we've turned this world into shit because of the decisions we've made(humans). We're selfish, self-centered, ignorant, arrogant, compulsive, violent...ect...I'm not referring to everyone, but overall!


The NWO is like the collective shadow of humanity. Just as in a person with a severe psychological disorder, the collective shadow has grown into a monster lurking behind a facade of political correctness. Throughout millenia ruthless traits in people have been fostered and steadily risen within the power structures of society, which in turn has lead to an ever increasing fortification and top-down centralization of secrecies of highly malevolent order. To quote JFK:

"The very word "secrecy" is repugnant in a free and open society; and we are as a people inherently and historically opposed to secret societies, to secret oaths and to secret proceedings. ... And there is very grave danger that an announced need for increased security will be seized upon by those anxious to expand its meaning to the very limits of official censorship and concealment."

Even if JFK was talking about the Soviet Union here, the same message can readily be applied to those who seek to further install the New World Order.

Here is a video with the JFK speech (intro by Alan Watt):

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[seanx]

So in one whole week you just changed your your mind, just like that!!....this is your post from the 7th Aug on a different thread;

"The 'NWO' is the exact opposite and direct enemy of 'christians'. Why do you think the 'NWO' litters hundreds of religions and sub-religions all over and why they 'encourage' open-mindedness? It's of course because they need people to (1) Be totally confused (2) Help them fight and hate christians and (3) be blinded by obvious truth."

It's simple 'brainwash' tactics and most fall for it, never even realizing it and are willing to fight to the death over their lack of understanding......



So what new understanding have you gained exactly?? I am intrigued..

Mr. James 7777 has been caught out again - very easily this time by
lydia78. This woman is pretty sharp!

But there is no real conflict in Mr. Jame's opinions. He believes neither
of them - just the 'Jesus is our saviour doctrine'

He's just here playing a game, creating threads to be controversal and disruptive.

But you're getting sloppy, my friend!

[quetzalcoatl]

Of-course the NWO is bad, bad to the bone man. 'They' are basically manufacturing fear, in-order to maximise profit. That age old Hegelian technique rife!

OK so maybe there would be less robberies & theft with everyone having retina scans & micro-chips read in order to access our money/credits. But really the crime/law-enforcement & whole legal system all the way through to incarceration, IS HUGE BUSSINESS! They will do everything in their power to keep this industry going. The Illuminati controlled organised-crime will be shown a way.

We all play our parts quite predictably; they push their agenda, masked as security for the populace. & people like Alex Jones, David Icke, Eric Phelps & some good people in office & many others, all play their parts. They're counting on resistance, its part of the plan, they need you, & you need them. OK they're un-wittingly possessed by extra-dimensional Reptilian Entities, & they probably think they have what's best for the gander in mind, & they feel good for making shit-loads of dough in the process. So we need the activists, protesters & letter writers to keep them in check, or @ least reach a reasonable compromise.


If 'they' had it ALL 'their' own way eventually everyone would be thinking exactly the same, talking the same, acting the same, no cunt would have anything new to say, it would really make for a boring existence. Seen that movie Equilibrium? That's right folks eventually we'd kiss goodbye our feelings too. We'd eventually have no immune system, totally reliant on drugs & other manufactured substances, we'd replace organs artificially with technology, & generally disrespect the perfect 'engineering' of our bodies.. 'Mark of the beast'. We'll probably end up grey frail beings starved of the Sun, reeking of ascorbic-acid, with wide almond-shaped eyes totally defenceless against the Sun, wondering were in the past we went wrong. Maybe.

[21_12_2012]

We'll probably end up grey frail beings starved of the Sun, reeking of ascorbic-acid, with wide almond-shaped eyes totally defenceless against the Sun

We've been like that for years here in Manchester UK !!

[quetzalcoatl]

We've been like that for years here in Manchester UK !!


Hahhahahaha! That's good value mate! :D

[james777]

So in one whole week you just changed your your mind, just like that!!....this is your post from the 7th Aug on a different thread;

So what new understanding have you gained exactly?? I am intrigued..

Mr. James 7777 has been caught out again - very easily this time by
lydia78. This woman is pretty sharp!

But there is no real conflict in Mr. Jame's opinions. He believes neither
of them - just the 'Jesus is our saviour doctrine'

He's just here playing a game, creating threads to be controversal and disruptive.

But you're getting sloppy, my friend!

You guys do realize that I am entitled to a 'thought process', right? Just because I was thinking about it and decided to post it does not mean that it is the 'conclusion' I've come to. I simply was thinking about it and displayed my thoughts...............it doesn't change the facts of what I posted on Aug. 7th. It's just merely thoughts.........

[james777]

Get a grip for fucksake James.

LOL...Good point.........I still say Fuck'em!! (the NWO)

[celtic isis]

James777 said


Well if you consider "peace" having every aspect of your life controlled from birth to death, being microchipped and watched constantly, or the prospect of spending time in detention centres for having views that differ from those of the controllers, then I guess you could be on to something James......but I'm not sure what :eek:

I don't think humanity is as bad as you're making it out to be....I just don't think we've ever had a fair crack at figuring out who we really are, and its high time we did. We need to learn a better way to just 'be' and we will. :)

all of what lime said! :D

Yep, the NWO wouldn't be a bad thing, if it was fair and in everyone's best interest. But of course it isn't.

I do think that humanity does need a dictatorship, it needs a leader but a "good" leader or group of "selected" leaders...like highly enlightened people who will act like mamas and papas for the human race, make any boo-boos better, sort out any disputes fairly and in general keep things on track and keep humanity happy and healthy...but unless we lived in a perfect world then who the hell is going to do this?

Anyone with the power to govern humanity, even at this point in time, are not good people, and they didn't get to where they are now by being good people. And that's the problem with the idea of a NWO!

We can't have a NWO being controlled by one world religon etc, where knowledge is surpressed and people are held back from reaching their full potential and evolving, like the human race should have doen all these years if it had not been hampered by those seeking full control and domination over the planet and the human race.

Freedom without limits would result in complete chaos unless people have become enlightened enough beforehand...so there does have to be some guidance/discipline...but it's a tricky one...also to select people as the leaders implies that the rest are of a lesser stance IQ wise and that's not good either...ah it's too tricky!

[synergy777]

sometimes judging by the prejudices of truthseekers, it seems maybe we won't make it.

[celtic isis]

Hmmm... I rather think you are beginning to be an enlightened one as well ;)

also it was the people behind the NWO who created all this crap on the planet in the first place, in order to bring their goal of world domination into fruition!

If humans had access to the esoteric knowledge which would set them free then the world would be a very different place. Human beings are not animals but some think they are and therefore act it. The "survival of the fittest, every man for himself" programming doesn't help this attitude.

Esoteric knowledge should be incorporated into our education from an early age, from childhood and the very fact that this doesn't take place, in fact it's the very opposite, shows us that something is not quite right here on planet earth.


Nothing will come right here until people wake up and face the truth.

[lydia78]

You said you had concluded.....you know, thats that, end of, arrival at destination answer.....sorry but I thought you meant you'd concluded that the NWO isn't so bad after all..?


I've been doing some thinking lately and have come to the conclusion that the NWO isn't so bad after all. I mean we've turned this world into shit because of the decisions we've made(humans). We're selfish, self-centered, ignorant, arrogant, compulsive, violent...ect...I'm not referring to everyone, but overall!

It seems as if the powers that be are forced into a situation where if they don't totally control and dominate every aspect of our lives then we'll self destruct. I believe it's our fault because we haven't been doing our job and helping our fellow brothers and sisters in this world. There is no love anymore. This planet is turning into a dark hole of hatred, anger, violence....ect.

The NWO is only trying to gain control so we can be at peace. Just think, once they manufacture enough bullshit and have enough wars and control what they want to control, then we'll have a peaceful existence. Would you rather have peace or freedom? Or are they the same?

I used to be totally against the NWO, but in reality they're no different then most 'everyday' people..........

[synergy777]

esoteric knowledge is only esocteric because the informed elite don't want us plebs to develop. it hidden from us, to keep us down/dumb.

[celtic isis]

well they want 80-90% of the poulation dead so I dont really want to play a game of international russian roulette.

exactly! does the de-population policy sound fair? In the NWO scheme of things?

Of course the population had to be cut back, as the planet is running out of so many vital resources like water, oil etc...but jeez, they could've told us this, let us in on the deal, not murder innocent people one by one, in such a mindblowingly cold, cruel and calculated way. These people are lunatics! While people (sheeple) think it's all been down to disease, famine, etc all random events on shitty planet earth..OMG!

They have to pay for what they've done. Or at least, for the light to be shone on it so our fellow humans will see the truth and realise what's been done to them all these years while they've been busy sleepwalking.

[celtic isis]

esoteric knowledge is only esocteric because the informed elite don't want us plebs to develop. it hidden from us, to keep us down/dumb.

of course, that's the point.

[synergy777]

if we implemented the free energy tech/tesla/hydrogen, and used our tech/knowledge properly, we could easily support all the people. its the false scarcity ruse, to justify de population.

[james777]

You said you had concluded.....you know, thats that, end of, arrival at destination answer.....sorry but I thought you meant you'd concluded that the NWO isn't so bad after all..?

Ya, you're right. I did say 'conclusion', but it was only for that thought.

I'll go on the record as saying the thoughts of my original post were wrong, but thoughts never-the-less......

[celtic isis]

selfish, self-centered, ignorant, arrogant, compulsive, violent

Please give examples. Tell me how these problems will disappear if there is a NWO? why would it change?

no different than everyday people? So you think most people get their neighbor to put their name on their will and then strangle them in their sleep to get the money faster? if a person is aggitated that the neighbors dog barks, he just walks over and poisons his food? I don't think MOST people act like that.

rather have peace or freedom? Freedom for sure.

Yes , you need laws to keep order but have limited amount of laws. There can't be lawlessness. Hell, if you want to get rid of crime and so forth. have stiffer punishment. someone steals, chop their hand off. if a a guy rapes,tortures, and murders someones, give a a horrible death, torture him and impale him on the stake. that'll strop alot of crimes against humanity real fast!!

but I don't want all of my rights taken away. And i don't want some gov't official telling me everything I can and can not do. and deciding what is good or bad for me based on their Opinion. I already think its rediculous right now!!! i can only imagine in the future.

Example, I am very into bodybuilding, fitness, etc. The gov't is always passsing laws saying, this supplement is bad, take it off the shelf. etc. when they have NO proof that it is bad. These same people do not allow herbs to be advertised as healing cures either!! I have first hand experience through blood work that certain OTC supplements work better than drugs for treating illness yet they don't allow them to me marketed b/c it goes agaist big business drug companies. These out of shape, sloppy pieces of shit know nothing about health, fitness, etc. but they will ban protein, ephedra, hormones yet people can Smoke and Drink!!!!!! unbelievable
.
I hate the MAN trying telling people what they can and can not put into their body. If I want to put a supplement into my body, don't you worry about it. Hell even if its bad for me, which most are not, its none of your business. Understand?

I think the idea of a one world order is not that bad but any jack ass can see they are doing it for the wrong reason. with one world goverment and society,etc. there will even more centralization of power than there is now. I fully endorse the motto that " ABSOLUTE POWER CORRUPTS ABSOLUTELY""

FANTASTIC POST! hehe archangel we could have a great time ranting
together lol :D

I know this gets me too:

******Example, I am very into bodybuilding, fitness, etc. The gov't is always passsing laws saying, this supplement is bad, take it off the shelf. etc. when they have NO proof that it is bad. These same people do not allow herbs to be advertised as healing cures either!! I have first hand experience through blood work that certain OTC supplements work better than drugs for treating illness yet they don't allow them to me marketed b/c it goes agaist big business drug companies. These out of shape, sloppy pieces of shit know nothing about health, fitness, etc. but they will ban protein, ephedra, hormones yet people can Smoke and Drink!!!!!! unbelievable.*******


Same here, i use homeopathy alot, this bugs me too. Of course this "silence" for "alternative medicine" is done for the drugs companies who make billions on their toxic pills while there are of many more natural cures that work with your body, without any side affects and are cheap.

[seanx]

Mr James 777777wrote:

You guys do realize that I am entitled to a 'thought process', right? Just because I was thinking about it and decided to post it does not mean that it is the 'conclusion' I've come to. I simply was thinking about it and displayed my thoughts...............it doesn't change the facts of what I posted on Aug. 7th. It's just merely thoughts.........

As a wise man once said: 'What a tangled web we weave when
we first practice to decieve.'

[james777]

Mr James 777777wrote:



As a wise man once said: 'What a tangled web we weave when
we first practice to decieve.'

And your point being....???