Annie Machon on David Shayler

[chris]

Sorry, where I got this from didn't have a link to the original...

David Shayler's former partner reveals: How the bullying State crushed him
By ANNIE MACHON

Ten years ago this month former MI5 officer David Shayler made shocking revelations in this newspaper about how Britain's spies were unable to deal with the growing threat of global terrorism.

He disclosed how MI5's peculiar obsession with bureaucracy and secrecy prevented crucial information being used to stop bombings.

And he told how insufficient agents and inept decision-making meant that terrorist groups were not properly monitored.

None of his original disclosures was shown to be wrong.

Indeed, in 2005 the bombings in London proved the whistleblower correct: MI5 was not equipped to counter terror on our streets.

The Government response to David's disclosures was to place a gagging order on The Mail on Sunday and launch a six-year campaign to discredit and persecute Shayler.

Alastair Campbell threatened to 'send in the heavies' and the whistleblower was forced into exile abroad, jailed twice and sued for damages; his friends and family were harassed and some arrested.

He faced a bleak, uncertain future and for many years he was under intense stress and pressure, often isolated and always under surveillance.

I had a ringside seat for the 'Get Shayler' operation because I was an MI5 officer at the same time (1991-96) and also his girlfriend and co-campaigner until last year when I ended my relationship with a broken man.

I witnessed first-hand the extraordinary psychological, physical and emotional burden of being a whistleblower when the full power of the secret State is launched against you.

A decade on the results of that pernicious campaign became clear when I heard that David had proclaimed himself as "The Messiah" and "God" and could predict the weather. I was saddened but not shocked.

The story of David Shayler is not just one of a whistleblower but also an indictment of the lack of democracy and accountability in Britain.

I first met David when we were both working in F2, the counter-subversion section of MI5, where we were repeatedly reassured that MI5 had to work within the law.

We were young and keen to help protect our country. I noticed David immediately, as he was very bright, and always asked the difficult questions.

Over a period of a year we became friends, and then we fell in love.

In the run-up to the 1992 General Election we were involved in assessing any parliamentary candidate and potential MP.

This meant that they all had their names cross-referenced with MI5's database.

If any candidates had a file, this was reviewed. We saw files on most of the top politicians of the past decade, from Tony Blair down, something that gave us concerns.

We then both moved to G Branch, the international counter-terrorist division, with David heading the Libyan section.

It was here that he witnessed a catalogue of errors and crimes: the illegal phone-tapping of a prominent Guardian journalist, the failure of MI5 to prevent the bombing of the Israeli embassy in London in July 1994, which resulted in the wrongful conviction of two innocent Palestinians, and the attempted assassination of Colonel Gaddafi of Libya.

David raised this with his bosses at the time but they showed no interest.

So we resigned from MI5 after deciding to go public to force an inquiry into the Gaddafi plot.

After The Mail on Sunday revelations we decamped to France while David tried to get the Government to take his evidence and investigate MI5's crimes, something, to this day, it has refused to do.

Rather than addressing the problem, the Intelligence Services tried to shoot the messenger.

They planted stories claiming David was a fantasist, overlooked for promotion, and was too junior to know what he was talking about.

These are classic tactics used against whistleblowers and were wheeled out again when Dr David Kelly took his life.

We eventually returned home in 2000, by which time David felt isolated and angry.

He began to distrust friends and thought that many of them might be reporting on him.

He was convinced he was constantly followed and began to take photographs of people in the street.

When the trial started, and with David effectively gagged, the jury had no choice but to convict.

He received a six-month sentence but the judgment exonerated him of placing agents' lives at risk, conceding that he had spoken out in what he thought to be the public interest.

David had blown the whistle with the best of motives.

He had exposed heinous State crimes up to and including murder, yet he was the one in prison with his reputation in tatters.

His release from jail saw a changed man.

David was full of anger, frustration and bitterness and became depressed and withdrawn.

He was drawn to the spiritual teachings of kabbalah, and became obsessed with the subject instead of focusing on what we should do to survive.

Last summer, I went away for a weekend. When I returned, David had shaved off all his hair and his eyebrows as part of his spiritual evolution.

He knew that I had always loved his long, thick hair, so it felt like a personal slap in the face.

He was in trouble. He was quick to anger if anyone questioned him. He became obsessive about little details, espoused wacky theories and shunned his family and old friends. His paranoia also escalated.

His experience of being hounded and vilified for a decade had left a deep persecution complex.

Eventually the strain was too much and I ended the relationship.

It was difficult as we had shared so much over the 14 years we had been together, but it felt that we were no longer a team – David was focusing only on esoteric issues.

Looking back, I am still proud of what we did. I believe that if you witness the crimes that we did, you have to take action.

But the price for taking that stand against a bully State can be high.

It is tragic to see an honourable and brave man crushed in this way. The British Establishment is ruthless in protecting its own interests rather than those of our country.

Today David Shayler is living testimony to that.

[danielg]

Just type a paragraph into Google for the link...
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/newscomment.html?in_article_id=474737&in_page_id=1787&in_a_source=

[tejas]

I seriously doubt that you can trust wheter or not this is the true account.
It is obviously more propaganda.

[danielg]

Sounds like he's on the right path by that account... anyone with a persecution complex, looking at the NWO plans, is obviously on the ball.


Last summer, I went away for a weekend. When I returned, David had shaved off all his hair and his eyebrows as part of his spiritual evolution.

He knew that I had always loved his long, thick hair, so it felt like a personal slap in the face.

... meanwhile she's getting a persecution complex from him cutting his hair. :rolleyes:

[edelweiss pirate]

Don't know what Shayler said exactly....

If he said 'I am the messiah' he should have said 'I am a messiah'...

We need as many enlightened and independent people as we can get...

Come on then Shayler, let's see them miracles...

[chris]

Don't know what Shayler said exactly....

If he said 'I am the messiah' he should have said 'I am a messiah'...

We need as many enlightened and independent people as we can get...

Come on then Shayler, let's see them miracles...

His first miracle was to totally discredit all he has worked for.

[paolo]

His first miracle was to totally discredit all he has worked for.
Don't think that's true in the longer term, chris. I don't claim to know David in any depth and he probably wouldn't know who I was without a visual reference, but the last time I chatted with him, at the national 911 Truth agm, back in June, he was perfectly compus mentis and as amiable as usual. I dont know if the channeler has since seriously deranged him, but even if that were the case, he is obviously going to come out of it well.
David's trouble has long been, that since he has been peddling truth as opposed to lies, he appears unable to express anything other than his truth.
I can't help but feel that, although David is the chief bums-on-seats man still for the UK truth movement, that supporters of that movement should not expect him to express other than his own truth, however bizarre that might be.
Because you are then into that area where the person in the public gaze is expected to be economical with his own truth for the perceived greater public good.
And we really ought to be getting our consciousness past that malarky

[turtonlea]

He has had a break down and is very ill, who here could deal with MI5 24/7 . Bi polar can kill and does with many, Journalist Civil servants and the like, knowing the truth and not being able to tell anyone because of the dangers involved to others, is highly stressful on mind and body. Poor man I hope he find peace in his life.

[deathstickboy]

Misguided, ego-driven study of the Kaballah and things of that nature has at least as many, if not more casualties than the most powerful hallucinogenic drugs.

[john white]

Sorry, where I got this from didn't have a link to the original...

David Shayler's former partner reveals: How the bullying State crushed him
By ANNIE MACHON

Ten years ago this month former MI5 officer David Shayler made shocking revelations in this newspaper about how Britain's spies were unable to deal with the growing threat of global terrorism.

He disclosed how MI5's peculiar obsession with bureaucracy and secrecy prevented crucial information being used to stop bombings.

And he told how insufficient agents and inept decision-making meant that terrorist groups were not properly monitored.

None of his original disclosures was shown to be wrong.

Indeed, in 2005 the bombings in London proved the whistleblower correct: MI5 was not equipped to counter terror on our streets.

The Government response to David's disclosures was to place a gagging order on The Mail on Sunday and launch a six-year campaign to discredit and persecute Shayler.

Alastair Campbell threatened to 'send in the heavies' and the whistleblower was forced into exile abroad, jailed twice and sued for damages; his friends and family were harassed and some arrested.

He faced a bleak, uncertain future and for many years he was under intense stress and pressure, often isolated and always under surveillance.

I had a ringside seat for the 'Get Shayler' operation because I was an MI5 officer at the same time (1991-96) and also his girlfriend and co-campaigner until last year when I ended my relationship with a broken man.

I witnessed first-hand the extraordinary psychological, physical and emotional burden of being a whistleblower when the full power of the secret State is launched against you.

A decade on the results of that pernicious campaign became clear when I heard that David had proclaimed himself as "The Messiah" and "God" and could predict the weather. I was saddened but not shocked.

The story of David Shayler is not just one of a whistleblower but also an indictment of the lack of democracy and accountability in Britain.

I first met David when we were both working in F2, the counter-subversion section of MI5, where we were repeatedly reassured that MI5 had to work within the law.

We were young and keen to help protect our country. I noticed David immediately, as he was very bright, and always asked the difficult questions.

Over a period of a year we became friends, and then we fell in love.

In the run-up to the 1992 General Election we were involved in assessing any parliamentary candidate and potential MP.

This meant that they all had their names cross-referenced with MI5's database.

If any candidates had a file, this was reviewed. We saw files on most of the top politicians of the past decade, from Tony Blair down, something that gave us concerns.

We then both moved to G Branch, the international counter-terrorist division, with David heading the Libyan section.

It was here that he witnessed a catalogue of errors and crimes: the illegal phone-tapping of a prominent Guardian journalist, the failure of MI5 to prevent the bombing of the Israeli embassy in London in July 1994, which resulted in the wrongful conviction of two innocent Palestinians, and the attempted assassination of Colonel Gaddafi of Libya.

David raised this with his bosses at the time but they showed no interest.

So we resigned from MI5 after deciding to go public to force an inquiry into the Gaddafi plot.

After The Mail on Sunday revelations we decamped to France while David tried to get the Government to take his evidence and investigate MI5's crimes, something, to this day, it has refused to do.

Rather than addressing the problem, the Intelligence Services tried to shoot the messenger.

They planted stories claiming David was a fantasist, overlooked for promotion, and was too junior to know what he was talking about.

These are classic tactics used against whistleblowers and were wheeled out again when Dr David Kelly took his life.

We eventually returned home in 2000, by which time David felt isolated and angry.

He began to distrust friends and thought that many of them might be reporting on him.

He was convinced he was constantly followed and began to take photographs of people in the street.

When the trial started, and with David effectively gagged, the jury had no choice but to convict.

He received a six-month sentence but the judgment exonerated him of placing agents' lives at risk, conceding that he had spoken out in what he thought to be the public interest.

David had blown the whistle with the best of motives.

He had exposed heinous State crimes up to and including murder, yet he was the one in prison with his reputation in tatters.

His release from jail saw a changed man.

David was full of anger, frustration and bitterness and became depressed and withdrawn.

He was drawn to the spiritual teachings of kabbalah, and became obsessed with the subject instead of focusing on what we should do to survive.

Last summer, I went away for a weekend. When I returned, David had shaved off all his hair and his eyebrows as part of his spiritual evolution.

He knew that I had always loved his long, thick hair, so it felt like a personal slap in the face.

He was in trouble. He was quick to anger if anyone questioned him. He became obsessive about little details, espoused wacky theories and shunned his family and old friends. His paranoia also escalated.

His experience of being hounded and vilified for a decade had left a deep persecution complex.

Eventually the strain was too much and I ended the relationship.

It was difficult as we had shared so much over the 14 years we had been together, but it felt that we were no longer a team – David was focusing only on esoteric issues.

Looking back, I am still proud of what we did. I believe that if you witness the crimes that we did, you have to take action.

But the price for taking that stand against a bully State can be high.

It is tragic to see an honourable and brave man crushed in this way. The British Establishment is ruthless in protecting its own interests rather than those of our country.

Today David Shayler is living testimony to that.

Hey Chris, the source is a Daily Mail article published on Sunday:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/newscomment.html?in_article_id=474737&in_page_id=1787

"Peacing it together" thread here:

http://www.nineeleven.co.uk/board/viewtopic.php?t=10767&start=0&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=

[john white]

And two recent comments on Dave Shayler from people who've spent time with him in the recent past:

Latest report on Dave: He's stayed over with us in Highgate following a presentation of his new film the British Broadcasting Conspiracy on Saturday. (Great film & contribution to 9/11 Truth incidentally, nothing nutty about that!). It was a chance to try to find out if there is still any way of diverting him from his chosen course and we all had questions, including my daughter who is fascinated by this sudden metamorphosis of the sofa-lolling, dope-smoking ex-lodger into saviour of mankind! “What’s it like being the Messiah?” she asked, genuinely curious. The reply was likewise classic. “It’s a bit of a chore, actually, you’ve got to go around trying to convince people who don’t want to believe you.” It was hard to keep a straight face!

Other gems included “the Life of Brian isn’t much help to my cause.” But on the whole it was sad and worrying to see how rapidly he is deteriorating, even since his last visit 10 days ago; although he remains perfectly lucid and articulate there is less and less objectivity, the list of historical personages of whom he is the reincarnation (along with being Yeshua) seems to grow ever longer while the fuse holding back rage has grown visibly shorter. I showed him Stuart Wilde’s article on the ‘claridad’ syndrome (thanks Watcher for posting that) and the blood-pressure instantly mounted. “New World Order stuff,” he fumed. “And you can tell it’s rubbish because he says Mary Magdalen was a whore.”

I asked if he’s been giving any consideration to the effect of what he’s saying on other people, especially the 9/11 Truth community, had he been following the threads about him on the Forum?? “No, I never bother with the Forum.” “Well you should bother with the Forum, if you’re putting out an important message to the world you should check how it’s being received out there and find out if you’re getting across. Ask any politician.” “I’m not a politician.” “Well you’re a leader, then.” “I’m not a leader, I’m Yeshua, the incarnation of the Holy Spirit as well as the messenger from God, Messiah means messenger, I’ve come to teach the world, not lead it.” “Even more reason to consider whether your teaching is being properly understood properly by your pupils, you’re not a lonely reed singing in the wind, you’re surrounded by minds needing to be filled and instructed, you’ve got to consider the level at which they are at and how best to help them assimilate your message.” “They’ll understand well enough if they want to!” “Well if you go on the Forum and read some of the posts there, also what’s being said in the press and media you’ll realise that people just aren’t picking up your message, in fact the general conclusion seems to be that you’ve gone mad! So somehow or other you’re NOT getting across, shouldn’t you at least go away and think about that before going any further? In fact, going back to the original Messiah, Jesus for our purposes and also Mohammad, they each had long periods in the wilderness when they thought very carefully about what they were going to do and how best to do it. You haven’t had that period of withdrawal from the world, shouldn’t you be having that before bursting out with extraordinary stuff that people clearly just can’t take in?” “Well you’re wrong there, firstly I have had my wilderness period, what do you think all those years of being on the run were? And secondly people do understand what I’m saying, after my announcement in Glastonbury people were stunned, they gave me reverent looks, several of them gathered round to hear more…” “Well great, then, you’ve got the beginnings of a following, but again, going back to Jesus, gather your disciples around you and become a working team BEFORE taking on Jerusalem! You’re doing things in the wrong order. Also, take another leaf out of Jesus’ book and talk in PLAIN LANGUAGE without all this esoteric stuff thrown in, stick to the real world like Jesus did in 1st century Palestine, he was talking to farmers and fishermen and landlords of vineyards, tax-gatherers, centurions etc. and so he used metaphor that they could easily relate to. So now, consider your audience and talk to them in a down-to-earth way with points of reference that are already familiar to them. No one understands the Kabbalah or how one person can be the incarnation of about 20 famous historical figures at once. Talk to people about the War on Terror and the intelligence services and 9/11 like you were doing before, that goes down much better with modern people because it’s telling them about the world they’re living in now and how to see through the plots of the people in power and stop these stupid and massively destructive wars, that’s the teaching you need to be doing in my opinion. Bringing in all this other stuff and glorifying yourself in the process is just too confusing and also it’s distressing for people who used to respect you, they can’t understand what’s happened to you and I’m afraid that’s why so many are coming to the same conclusion.” “Well if people supported me instead of attacking me they’d soon see I’m right, I’d get on a lot better and so would they. But people don’t want to see The Light, that’s the tragedy.” “The Luciferians claim to be the bringers of Light into the world too, how can you be sure that what you perceive as ‘The Light’ and all these messages in your brain aren’t from quite a different source?” “Don’t think I haven’t been constantly asking myself the same question! but there are just too many signs all the time PROVING who I am and what my role is that I have no longer any doubt about it, that’s why I’ve just got to get on with it and tell the world.” “Well you may have seen the odd sign here and there but no one else has, frankly so how is anyone to know?” “Surely stopping a major bombing in London is proof enough isn’t it?” “Well yes it would be if anyone could prove it was your intervention through meditation or whatever that stopped that, but how do you prove that?” (Getting cross) “Well for a start YOU’D get on a lot better if you’d open your eyes and support me but I have to say to you that Yeshua tells me you’ve got huge issues to deal with so I do know why you’re not making much progress, frankly. If you’d be willing to let me as Yeshua take you through that I think you'd have a much better understanding of why you need to support me.” “But I am supporting you, I’m helping put food on your table and a roof over your head!” “Well, so you should, it's up to my followers to keep me in a state of bliss so that I can carry out my mission. But you’re undermining me, that’s the trouble, because you've got these serious things wrong which go right back and until you resolve them you won’t get any further.” “OK, please Yeshua tell me what is wrong with me so that I can work on that to put it right.” (Short silence while Dave checks with ‘The Great Compassion’ whether he can or can’t tell me what’s wrong with me). “No, Yeshua says now is not the right moment to tell you, you’ll have to wait.” “Oh, that’s very worrying for me, can you not just hint what it’s about, is it serious??” “Yes it’s serious.” “Did I hurt someone?” “Yes you did.” “Whom did I hurt?” “Tizzy.” [B’s schizophrenic daughter] “Well I know that already, I neglected her a bit when she was growing up but not that badly, no more than other busy parents struggling with jobs etc. neglect their children. But I never, never hurt her, of that I am totally sure.” “Well you allowed her to be hurt by someone else.” “Ah, that’s different, that’s not what you said first-off, I know all about that episode. But you started by referring to some massive character-defect in me. I’d like you to tell me about that. But OK if now is not the right moment it can certainly wait”

Etc. – there was a lot more besides on various related themes including all this stuff ‘proving’ Dave’s divinity, would you believe it, Totnes where Dave is currently staying means Birth of God – Tot = Tut, one of the ancient words for God and ‘ness’ = naissance or birth! And I think I’ve identified just who and what is whispering in Dave’s ear – an entity that likes pyramidal power for a start!! (he admitted as much, Annie also heard that bit clearly). Today he’s giving interviews to the Guardian and the Daily Mail and I believe the Independent’s lined up too. Hopefully Annie’s excellent piece in the MOS yesterday will have begun the delicate process of drawing a clear line of demarcation between the 9/11 truth campaign and Dave which is the reason why she expressly left 9/11 out of the article. On the personal/pastoral level we will of course continue to do all we can to support Dave (but not in the way he himself wishes!!) and do our best to bring him through this in one psychological piece but it’s not going to be easy. A propos, thank you Watcher, John White et al for your wisdom re.spiritual problems/psychic attack, there’s no wool over Outsider’s eyes either! and for pointing to appropriate avenues of treatment. I’m glad (almost) all agree that it would be preferable to avoid modern anti-psychotic drugs if we possibly can, they are so poisonous and disempowering, they wreck things like will and moral drive. If Steve H who’s looking after him could persuade him to cut down on the dope that might bring about an immediate improvement but Dave is notoriously difficult to persuade to do anything he doesn’t want to do.

If any in the network feel they could personally be of help/healing please PM me

STATEMENT REGARDING DAVID SHAYLER DATE 13/08/2007

Due to David Shayler's recent assertions in the mainstream press I see it necessary to make this statement:

I have worked with David Shayler on two documentaries. 'Mind the Gap' and '911 and the British Broadcasting Conspiracy'. The films were produced and directed by myself. David was the presenter in both films and helped with the scripts.

The information presented in these documentaries stands for itself and should not be associated with any individual.

I would never have undertaken these serious documentaries with a person proclaiming to be the next messiah. This is a very recent phenomenon.

Around two weeks prior to the completion of '911 and the British Broadcasting Conspiracy' David began to report that during his meditations he was "downloading" large amounts of information about the universe. The so called downloading mechanism quickly evolved to being the voice of Yeshua.

I have no tangible evidence to prove what has recently happened to David is not purely of his own making, but I am aware of a number of methods by which this effect could be achieved through external forces.

The bottom line is that David has a voice in his head asking him to say and do things. He is ignoring his friend's opinions over the voices' because through a series of "signs" he has made up his mind that what the voice is telling him is accurate.

I will say here that I find it suspicious that almost to the day that I finished making '911 and the British Broadcasting Conspiracy' the voice's new instructions were for him to tell the world he's themessiah.

David went from being enthusiastic, saying he'd go into the BBC and make a fuss once the film was complete, to not bothering about it at all and only talking about telling the world he's the messiah. I and others witnessed this bizarre u-turn over two to three weeks.

To those who perpetrated 911 it is obvious which one of those actions they would rather David Shayler be taking.

Based on David's past record and my own experiences with him, I am to this day convinced that he is a genuine whistleblower and is not still working for any intelligence services.

I am personally very concerned for David's future. Not only has he jeopardised his reputation and everything he's ever stood for, but dueto the nature of what he is 'channelling' he is now at risk of being used as a conduit by those wishing to promote the ever pervasive and often insidious end time theories.

I would suggest that people put in a caring thought for David as I'msure his heart is in the right place – let's just hope he gets his head back as soon as possible.

Love and peace

Adrian Connock

[hagbard_celine]

Poor David. I hope he finds peace and healing in his new spiritual outlook. It's a shame Annie and he split up after being together so long, but it sounds like she's still very much on his side.

[edelweiss pirate]

Annie is a fox!... Sorry, but she is...

[edelweiss pirate]

Annie is a fox!... Sorry, but she is... there's a time for conspiracy theories and a time for hormones.. and now it's hormone time.

(Ahem)

[john white]

LOL! no comment :D

[majicdragon]

His first miracle was to totally discredit all he has worked for.

His second miracle was to get the whole world interested in his story.

[edelweiss pirate]

Sorry, where I got this from didn't have a link to the original...

David Shayler's former partner reveals: How the bullying State crushed him
By ANNIE MACHON

Ten years ago this month former MI5 officer David Shayler made shocking revelations in this newspaper about how Britain's spies were unable to deal with the growing threat of global terrorism.

He disclosed how MI5's peculiar obsession with bureaucracy and secrecy prevented crucial information being used to stop bombings.

And he told how insufficient agents and inept decision-making meant that terrorist groups were not properly monitored.

None of his original disclosures was shown to be wrong.

Indeed, in 2005 the bombings in London proved the whistleblower correct: MI5 was not equipped to counter terror on our streets.

The Government response to David's disclosures was to place a gagging order on The Mail on Sunday and launch a six-year campaign to discredit and persecute Shayler.

Alastair Campbell threatened to 'send in the heavies' and the whistleblower was forced into exile abroad, jailed twice and sued for damages; his friends and family were harassed and some arrested.

He faced a bleak, uncertain future and for many years he was under intense stress and pressure, often isolated and always under surveillance.

I had a ringside seat for the 'Get Shayler' operation because I was an MI5 officer at the same time (1991-96) and also his girlfriend and co-campaigner until last year when I ended my relationship with a broken man.

I witnessed first-hand the extraordinary psychological, physical and emotional burden of being a whistleblower when the full power of the secret State is launched against you.

A decade on the results of that pernicious campaign became clear when I heard that David had proclaimed himself as "The Messiah" and "God" and could predict the weather. I was saddened but not shocked.

The story of David Shayler is not just one of a whistleblower but also an indictment of the lack of democracy and accountability in Britain.

I first met David when we were both working in F2, the counter-subversion section of MI5, where we were repeatedly reassured that MI5 had to work within the law.

We were young and keen to help protect our country. I noticed David immediately, as he was very bright, and always asked the difficult questions.

Over a period of a year we became friends, and then we fell in love.

In the run-up to the 1992 General Election we were involved in assessing any parliamentary candidate and potential MP.

This meant that they all had their names cross-referenced with MI5's database.

If any candidates had a file, this was reviewed. We saw files on most of the top politicians of the past decade, from Tony Blair down, something that gave us concerns.

We then both moved to G Branch, the international counter-terrorist division, with David heading the Libyan section.

It was here that he witnessed a catalogue of errors and crimes: the illegal phone-tapping of a prominent Guardian journalist, the failure of MI5 to prevent the bombing of the Israeli embassy in London in July 1994, which resulted in the wrongful conviction of two innocent Palestinians, and the attempted assassination of Colonel Gaddafi of Libya.

David raised this with his bosses at the time but they showed no interest.

So we resigned from MI5 after deciding to go public to force an inquiry into the Gaddafi plot.

After The Mail on Sunday revelations we decamped to France while David tried to get the Government to take his evidence and investigate MI5's crimes, something, to this day, it has refused to do.

Rather than addressing the problem, the Intelligence Services tried to shoot the messenger.

They planted stories claiming David was a fantasist, overlooked for promotion, and was too junior to know what he was talking about.

These are classic tactics used against whistleblowers and were wheeled out again when Dr David Kelly took his life.

We eventually returned home in 2000, by which time David felt isolated and angry.

He began to distrust friends and thought that many of them might be reporting on him.

He was convinced he was constantly followed and began to take photographs of people in the street.

When the trial started, and with David effectively gagged, the jury had no choice but to convict.

He received a six-month sentence but the judgment exonerated him of placing agents' lives at risk, conceding that he had spoken out in what he thought to be the public interest.

David had blown the whistle with the best of motives.

He had exposed heinous State crimes up to and including murder, yet he was the one in prison with his reputation in tatters.

His release from jail saw a changed man.

David was full of anger, frustration and bitterness and became depressed and withdrawn.

He was drawn to the spiritual teachings of kabbalah, and became obsessed with the subject instead of focusing on what we should do to survive.

Last summer, I went away for a weekend. When I returned, David had shaved off all his hair and his eyebrows as part of his spiritual evolution.

He knew that I had always loved his long, thick hair, so it felt like a personal slap in the face.

He was in trouble. He was quick to anger if anyone questioned him. He became obsessive about little details, espoused wacky theories and shunned his family and old friends. His paranoia also escalated.

His experience of being hounded and vilified for a decade had left a deep persecution complex.

Eventually the strain was too much and I ended the relationship.

It was difficult as we had shared so much over the 14 years we had been together, but it felt that we were no longer a team – David was focusing only on esoteric issues.

Looking back, I am still proud of what we did. I believe that if you witness the crimes that we did, you have to take action.

But the price for taking that stand against a bully State can be high.

It is tragic to see an honourable and brave man crushed in this way. The British Establishment is ruthless in protecting its own interests rather than those of our country.

Today David Shayler is living testimony to that.

Looking back, that item is total bollocks. The terrorists are the security services and Annie Machon is a gate keeper and the whole UK 9-11 movement is a fucked up cult. Some good people involved... but ffs No Planes?

I've had conversations with other members of 911 truth, and we ain't happy.


We gotta admit it, we got 'trated.

I still believe Shayler could be real, and if you believe in miracles you can do 'em.

But Machon...? Wasn't their original job infiltrating left wing groups.

Once a spying scum bag always a spying scum bag.

We need to get rid of Machon. Fox or not.

[eternal_spirit]

Once a spying scum bag always a spying scum bag.


Some may same about Shayler. This is the problem we face, when trusting anyone who is an X insider.

[synergy777]

john, great post, what forum is it from. see this claridad syndrome, this possession by negative entites pretending to be positive is very true. i feel sorry, empathy and compassion is whats needed for this recovery.

the post made some great points, the need for teamwork, relevant language/plain speaking, the threat of intellectual snobbery/elitism of the conspiracy movement.

one must always be vigilant, one must always keep arrogance/messiah complex in check, its spiritual pride. we must remain humble/compassionate, have clarity in communication and courage.

i think the elite are manipulating him. however if he remained humble, compassionate, they could not manipulate him, as he would not fall into the allure of the messiah trap.

as being enlightend is subjective and available to all of us, as we are all equal, all children of the source. personally who in their right mind would want to be the messiah, its a hiding to nothing. look at all the times we have had messiahs, we turned on them, betrayed them and killed them. we souled out to the elite.

as for signs, well see what we want to see. unless scientific, independent, objective verification can be acheived, then all us with believe what we want to believe.

[edelweiss pirate]

one must always be vigilant, one must always keep arrogance/messiah complex in check, its spiritual pride. we must remain humble/compassionate, have clarity in communication and courage.

i think the elite are manipulating him. however if he remained humble, compassionate, they could not manipulate him, as he would not fall into the allure of the messiah trap.

.

Word!

Even if you were the messiah the best thing to do would be to keep quiet about it.

These guys don't tend to have a very long life expectancy. But he had to blab... big head, I suppose that's why he ended up in the spook squad in the first place. Spies are twats. Period. Shayler maybe just has a genetic disposition to twattery.

I got the spook squad call. I said Fuck Off you're all zombies. I got the messiah call I said fuck off you'e all elitist.

Maybe it's a test of sorts.

Still, in my exp, the more offers you turn down the more you get.


Keep one foot on the ground in all areas of spiritual development is good advice.

[synergy777]

just speaking from a peroid of too much skunk and reading all this stuff, everyone gets the neo complex, i did, i admit it, i thought, yep, me so smart, me know everything, like fu*k i do.

i still can't get 6 lottery numbers right, or alicia/keira phone number, and i have seemed to have fucked up our qualification for the euro's next year. shayler we need you against croatia, and make sure israel beats russia. lol

like socrates said, wisdom is knowing how little we know. and as for the claridad syndrome, its awesome and true. although i liked the dark city complex, well what he did in the ending, awesome. lol

[john white]

john, great post, what forum is it from. see this claridad syndrome, this possession by negative entites pretending to be positive is very true. i feel sorry, empathy and compassion is whats needed for this recovery.

the post made some great points, the need for teamwork, relevant language/plain speaking, the threat of intellectual snobbery/elitism of the conspiracy movement.

one must always be vigilant, one must always keep arrogance/messiah complex in check, its spiritual pride. we must remain humble/compassionate, have clarity in communication and courage.

i think the elite are manipulating him. however if he remained humble, compassionate, they could not manipulate him, as he would not fall into the allure of the messiah trap.

as being enlightend is subjective and available to all of us, as we are all equal, all children of the source. personally who in their right mind would want to be the messiah, its a hiding to nothing. look at all the times we have had messiahs, we turned on them, betrayed them and killed them. we souled out to the elite.

as for signs, well see what we want to see. unless scientific, independent, objective verification can be acheived, then all us with believe what we want to believe.

I believe it was this thread:

http://www.nineeleven.co.uk/board/viewtopic.php?t=10767&start=0&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=

It's interesting really, since Dave Shayler simply isnt being talked about on the UK 9/11 board

[hagbard_celine]

Looking back, that item is total bollocks. The terrorists are the security services and Annie Machon is a gate keeper and the whole UK 9-11 movement is a fucked up cult. Some good people involved... but ffs No Planes?

I've had conversations with other members of 911 truth, and we ain't happy.


We gotta admit it, we got 'trated.

I still believe Shayler could be real, and if you believe in miracles you can do 'em.

But Machon...? Wasn't their original job infiltrating left wing groups.

Once a spying scum bag always a spying scum bag.

We need to get rid of Machon. Fox or not.

Shayler's actually in a fairly parallel position to where David was in 1990. I'm going to keep watching what he comes out with and see where he goes. After all, our Dave went a bit nuts at first. It's all part of the Spiritual Emergence process. Whether Shayler is genuine or not time will tell.

As for Annie. I'm sorry it didn't work out for her and David when they used to be such a close couple, but these things happen as we all know. Of course it's always a possibility that she's a double-agent still working for the Five, but if we go about suspecting everyone it can drive you more nuts than Shayler could ever be! You have to strike a balance between being on your guard and being gullible. Sometimes you just have to trust people.