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lauren_almighty
07-08-2009, 09:50 PM
I recently remembered something that has stayed with me since childhood. I remember being about 4 years old and I was playing with my barbie dolls when all of a sudden I felt a jolt and it was like somebody had flicked a switch and I suddenly had self awareness. At the time I remember feeling different and knowing that something strange had just happened to me. I never knew how to describe it at that age and had always called it the day that I started to get memories. It was like I was alive but without the 'spark' that makes me who I am and it was like I was just living to exist until the real 'me' entered my body. I do not know how else to explain it but I knew that it was odd at the time and I made a point of remembering it all these years.

I was talking to my mum about it recently and she told me about Freud's theory of the id, the ego and the superego. So maybe this was the moment that my 'superego' entered my body because it happens around the age of 5 years old according to Freud. This makes sense when compared to my childhood experience.

It has changed my perspective on a lot of things. It has also made me wonder about reincarnation. Maybe our souls don't enter the physical body until a few years after they have been born. It's a bit freaky when you think about it in depth but I can remember that specific memory so clearly and it was exactly like somebody had flicked a switch.


Have you ever seen a dog stand in front of a mirror? Sometimes they bark at themselves or stand there with a puzzled look. Believe it or not, the ability to recognize oneself in the mirror is pretty advanced, and dogs have yet to demonstrate that they can do it. Some psychologists argue that it is a uniquely human ability, although at least one study has shown that teenage chimpanzees can recognize themselves in a mirror.

When we've developed a sense of self-awareness, we've achieved a state of self-consciousness. Why "developed?" Aren't we aware of ourselves at birth? Actually, it may take up to five or six months for an infant to develop anything even remotely resembling self-consciousness.

The mirror technique is one of the tools that psychologists have used to test infants' and toddlers' levels of self-consciousness. The simplest form of this test involves just setting an infant down in front of a mirror and watching her response. Some researchers have shown that 5- to 6-month-olds will reach out and touch the mirror image, suggesting they think it's another baby, or at least different from them.

In 1979, Michael Lewis and Jeanne Brooks-Gunn conducted a sophisticated version of the mirror test. They applied some blush to the noses of two sets of children — 15- to 17-month-olds and 18- to 24-month-olds. The idea: If the kids look in the mirror and see the blush on their nose, they'll touch it or try to remove it in some way. However, this requires the child to realize that the person in the mirror is himself. So what happened? Just a few of the 15- to 17-month-olds actually reached up and touched their noses, but the vast majority of the 18- to 24-month-old children did it. So, these children must have recognized themselves in the mirror.

Self-consciousness and self-awareness are the same thing. Being self-conscious just means being aware of oneself. But too much of anything can be bad. Usually when someone says she is "self-conscious," she means that she is aware of some flaw. This is not the type of self-consciousness dealt with here.
http://www.dummies.com/how-to/content/understanding-the-psychology-of-selfconsciousness.html

id, ego and superego: http://www.dummies.com/how-to/content/understanding-the-id-ego-and-superego-in-psycholog.html

curtaincat
08-08-2009, 01:33 PM
lauren, really interesting story.
i wonder if you might be a walk-in. here is one link to such things, there are many others,,of course.

http://www.livewithlight.com/whatis.php

that one is just a short example.

google - walk-ins soul exchange , and if you sift through this and that, you will find some interesting stuff.

amazing, hey:)

lauren_almighty
10-08-2009, 05:13 PM
lauren, really interesting story.
i wonder if you might be a walk-in. here is one link to such things, there are many others,,of course.

http://www.livewithlight.com/whatis.php

that one is just a short example.

google - walk-ins soul exchange , and if you sift through this and that, you will find some interesting stuff.

amazing, hey:)

It's funny because I've been making jokes that I must be a walk-in. It's like I remember the exact moment I became 'me'. I don't know how to explain it but it's as though my body didn't have personality or a soul until that exact moment.

mind1universe
10-08-2009, 09:46 PM
I too had this experience when I was 4

The painful realisation this matrix had almost killled me.

It has taken me 20 years to witness that energy and grace again. What pain I tell ya!!

It's like a merry go around, you go round and round in circles and through the innocence and joys of been in the moment something happens to you, the higher you shows you who you are.


But the realties of this matrix blinds you for it. It has been incredibly painful journey and I still struggle it. For I now realise that every pain someone has, I feel it as if it were mine.


But in my story. My higher self told me to go to my mums room, and there she was crying by her bedside. I was wasn't able to speak to her, but i remember puttting my hand on her shoulder and she quickly sheded her eyes and continued to say everything was ok.

But it wasn't, what I saw was pains of a soul going back to the beginning of time. Here on earth the pain we experience is us trying to remember who we really are. I was 4 years old with no baggage or pain polluted my mind. But I knew deepdown the pain she has gone through was the ancient old pain many of us experience throughout our lives.

Simply because we forgot we are all the one.

curtaincat
11-08-2009, 02:49 PM
both amazing stories.!

do either of you know anything about someone called PD Ouspensky? i have just found out about him recently. i havent researched him yet. He said something about 'the Fourth Way', which is the 4th dimension, i think.

i need more time to find out about him, he sounds amazing. Apparently, on his death-bed , he found his real self, i dont really know anymore, but it seems he found out not to be continually re-incarnating - which means we keep forgetting our real self, and keep playing out the same 'life ' over and over again.

i think he was trying to/ and achieved , overcoming the reincarnation trap.

some guy called Collins also said stuff about this. one of his students, i think.



So, i find both of your stories fascinating, lauren and mind1 ...


Ouspensky was trying to escape the merry-go-round, and as far as i know, so far, he got away!

He is on my "to read" list.

lauren_almighty
14-08-2009, 01:27 AM
both amazing stories.!

do either of you know anything about someone called PD Ouspensky? i have just found out about him recently. i havent researched him yet. He said something about 'the Fourth Way', which is the 4th dimension, i think.

i need more time to find out about him, he sounds amazing. Apparently, on his death-bed , he found his real self, i dont really know anymore, but it seems he found out not to be continually re-incarnating - which means we keep forgetting our real self, and keep playing out the same 'life ' over and over again.

i think he was trying to/ and achieved , overcoming the reincarnation trap.

some guy called Collins also said stuff about this. one of his students, i think.



So, i find both of your stories fascinating, lauren and mind1 ...


Ouspensky was trying to escape the merry-go-round, and as far as i know, so far, he got away!

He is on my "to read" list.

Thanks, this sounds interesting.
I'll add him to my "to read" list too (which is already very long)

sm1973
10-07-2011, 12:53 AM
Lauren, thanks for this link!
I think it describes something similar which happened to me.

It must have been early 80's but I was looking in the mirror in my parents bathroom and all of a sudden I recognised "myself". I became self aware!

It's hard to describe here, but before I recognised "myself" I think I might have been a different person!
I've never posted this before or talked about it to anyone because I really never understood it until today (after listening to a podcast).

lauren_almighty
10-07-2011, 01:16 AM
The experience I had made me who I am. I remember everything with such detail since I experienced this. I remember feeling confused but totally gobsmacked about what happened to me and ever since then I have made a point of remembering every single detail of my life in case something weird happens again and I have become a memory hoarder because of it.

I personally believe that we don't become who we are until a few years after we are born. So a baby is alive but has no personality until the soul enters.

Sometimes I wonder if something tried to inhabit my body at the same time as me. I sometimes think that I am not just "me" because I am in conflict with myself alot. I am a very complex character and it's as though I have 2 seperate personalities at war with each other.

It's interesting to speculate but my experience is a very strange one that did happen and it has stayed with me for a very long time. It's one of my oldest memories but it's one that I can remember as though it happened yesterday so I remember it perfectly.

lauren_almighty
10-07-2011, 01:21 AM
Lauren, thanks for this link!
I think it describes something similar which happened to me.

It must have been early 80's but I was looking in the mirror in my parents bathroom and all of a sudden I recognised "myself". I became self aware!

It's hard to describe here, but before I recognised "myself" I think I might have been a different person!
I've never posted this before or talked about it to anyone because I really never understood it until today (after listening to a podcast).

I believe you when you say it's hard to describe because it really is a very rare and unique experience and if anybody else experienced this, not many remember it.

enga
10-07-2011, 01:23 AM
lauren, really interesting story.
i wonder if you might be a walk-in. here is one link to such things, there are many others,,of course.

http://www.livewithlight.com/whatis.php

that one is just a short example.

google - walk-ins soul exchange , and if you sift through this and that, you will find some interesting stuff.

amazing, hey:)

The same thought came to me

ulaw
14-07-2011, 07:11 AM
Interesting post,

I reminds me about my own experience as a child i was about 4 also, I was in the living room, looking at this man when all of a sudden asking myself
"who is this man", at that point He asked me to pass him a news papers which i did, I do not recall after that....I also recall a similar event with by older brother and sister, just llloking at them a wondering who they are...

I saw Kpax recently also that makes me wonder...

ufochick
14-07-2011, 10:27 AM
The Urantia Book (which I think has a lot of really great info in it but should not be taken as absolute by any means) maintains that the "thought adjuster" or God fragment does not inhabit the body along with the soul until a choice has been made by the soul, at th first true service to others choice or the showing of true emathy this fragment is bestowed.

Any idea if anything had happened soon before that would show this theory true?

jonramification
14-07-2011, 11:30 PM
Theres probably alot of different expirences and different soul walk-in points, im pretty sure its called the zero-point energy. Most people have it some time after birth some people apparently remember still being in the womb, very fascinating.

I dont remember it but from what my mums says when i was born i freaked the doctor and my dad out cause as soon as i was out i looked the doctor and then my dad straight in the eye. After when i was put to bed they turned the cot i was sleeping in, cause i kept cocking my head to look at my mum.

So frustrating to know that the truth of each individuals story theres loads of this spiritual that goes on in the background.

kathrynwoods
15-07-2011, 07:36 AM
Some of these memories almost sounds like flickers of tapping into your past lives or alternate selves.

Usually one needs meditation tho access these memories, but sometimes they can just come to you and seem completely life like. It makes you wonder about their reality.

Try thinking of these memories during meditation and see what connections you can create.

ulaw
15-07-2011, 10:26 PM
The Urantia Book (which I think has a lot of really great info in it but should not be taken as absolute by any means) maintains that the "thought adjuster" or God fragment does not inhabit the body along with the soul until a choice has been made by the soul, at th first true service to others choice or the showing of true emathy this fragment is bestowed.

Any idea if anything had happened soon before that would show this theory true?

I have read some of this and found it very interesting yet something about it seems like informatino already said before, still good to know there is a common belief, that we are more than just our material bodies...the more people realise this truth things will change for the better.