Hands up the musos!

[limelady]

After reading a post by jimijams on the Kody music thread, it suddenl;y occurred to me how many musios (professional and otherwise) I have struck already on this forum. Does being musical or having a passion for creating music go hand in hand with being a truth-seeker?

Although I never made music a career, I apparently played a mean piano when I was only a wee tacker aged four, and later went on to sing with bands during my teens. More recently I've tried my hand at writing songs and find I get in the 'zone' when I'm doing this. Something wonderful and uplifting flows through me. Do other musios feel this way when they're creating, playing, or singing?

[jimijams]

Does being musical or having a passion for creating music go hand in hand with being a truth-seeker?
He he I wish this was true, but not in my experience unfortunately. In fact most muso's generally are far less enlightened than you might think, maybe it has to do with the egocentric world of sex, drugs and rock 'n' roll.

My own truth seeking started from my earliest memories of being a baby in my cot thinking what is this? Where am I? If I wasn't here where would I be? Funny that they're my earliest and only memories from that age and I've been on a journey of discovery ever since.

[jimijams]

I get in the 'zone' when I'm doing this. Something wonderful and uplifting flows through me. Do other musios feel this way when they're creating, playing, or singing?
This is inspiration or more correctly being in spirit, It's a form of channeling.

If watch the greats and in my case my hero's are Hendrix, Clapton, Dave Gilmore and the like they seem to leave their body when they play and spirit flows through them.

It's the same for me when I play, occasionally I stand outside of myself and something takes over and it's like wow, where's this coming from? It's a magical feeling I love it!:)

[thirdwave]

After reading a post by jimijams on the Kody music thread, it suddenl;y occurred to me how many musios (professional and otherwise) I have struck already on this forum. Does being musical or having a passion for creating music go hand in hand with being a truth-seeker?

Although I never made music a career, I apparently played a mean piano when I was only a wee tacker aged four, and later went on to sing with bands during my teens. More recently I've tried my hand at writing songs and find I get in the 'zone' when I'm doing this. Something wonderful and uplifting flows through me. Do other musios feel this way when they're creating, playing, or singing?

I got some tunes ;)

[deca]

was gonna rap some truth but thease guys do it good

Diabolic - The Truth - YouTube

YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.

think somebody in the uk should rap putting a uk view out

[drgonzo]

My entire life is based on music. I've chosen to play the game by partaking in an epic quest of Rock... the details are too many to explain, but suffice to say I'm happy to see other musicians here.

I do honestly believe that it is through music that a great many people will be awoken, atleast as far as my band is concerned.

[21_12_2012]

After reading a post by jimijams on the Kody music thread, it suddenl;y occurred to me how many musios (professional and otherwise) I have struck already on this forum. Does being musical or having a passion for creating music go hand in hand with being a truth-seeker?

Although I never made music a career, I apparently played a mean piano when I was only a wee tacker aged four, and later went on to sing with bands during my teens. More recently I've tried my hand at writing songs and find I get in the 'zone' when I'm doing this. Something wonderful and uplifting flows through me. Do other musios feel this way when they're creating, playing, or singing?

I've been composing house/techno since around 1990. It really does take me into another dimension.

[notaslave]

think somebody in the uk should rap putting a uk view out

Excellent idea!
Me I have no talents in those directions whatsoever :(

[eternal_spirit]

I'm a musician and have a friend who is a musician he's the only one who can accept and consider alternative writings such as Icke as truth.
See to be a good musician you have to learn the ins and outs of so many scales which starts with the question i can hear this music but how do i play it?
That in itself is seeking to know more than just what you hear. So it's like a quest for truth and knowledge.

[eternal_spirit]

Some notes, scales and chords stay the same and fit well together they are constant bit like the sun and water.
But like a truth seeker the musician will always be looking to find new ways of using the knowledge to create a new sound.

[wanderer]

Yep - me too! Been playing and singing for most of my life - and will continue to do so until I die. ;)

I was fortunate enough to have fallen in with an alternative set of individuals when I was in my late teens - long time ago. Never looked back.

Often the best songs write themselves. Very powerful magic indeed :) Tone, frequency, pitch, vibration, emotion, devotion, truth.

Peace

[rachel88]

I'm a musician and have a friend who is a musician he's the only one who can accept and consider alternative writings such as Icke as truth.
See to be a good musician you have to learn the ins and outs of so many scales which starts with the question i can hear this music but how do i play it?
That in itself is seeking to know more than just what you hear. So it's like a quest for truth and knowledge.

i agree

and once you've got it ... gosh! its amazing what you can do

[oneofmany]

I've played Keyboard and Drums since i was 11, started singing at high school with the choir, was later doubling my wage of a carpenter by playing of a night. I have a recording studio at home and is a hobby of mine (so far) while i look after my son at home. Sound mixing and producing, and i also lay the odd beat or two for my friends, The Frells,
here http://www.myspace.com/wearethefrells

other than that I'm not doing much musically except learning bass and guitar

wow so many muso's :cool::cool:

[oneofmany]

This is inspiration or more correctly being in spirit, It's a form of channeling.

If watch the greats and in my case my hero's are Hendrix, Clapton, Dave Gilmore and the like they seem to leave their body when they play and spirit flows through them.

It's the same for me when I play, occasionally I stand outside of myself and something takes over and it's like wow, where's this coming from? It's a magical feeling I love it!:)

What kinds of music do you play jimi, are you a session muso or are you in a band or group? what instrument/instruments do you play, are you making enough $$$. The scene's pretty tight here in Sydney.

[jimijams]

What kinds of music do you play jimi, are you a session muso or are you in a band or group? what instrument/instruments do you play, are you making enough $$$. The scene's pretty tight here in Sydney.
I'm a guitar player/singer and spend most of my time touring, I also do quite a bit of solo/duo acoustic work round town. Moneys good, Melbourne seems to have a lot more opportunity for making a living out of music.

[oneofmany]

I'm a guitar player/singer and spend most of my time touring, I also do quite a bit of solo/duo acoustic work round town. Moneys good, Melbourne seems to have a lot more opportunity for making a living out of music.
Let me know when your in Sydney, and I'll come watch you play. I love going to live venues, there's nothing like it. I gave up trying to make a dollar from music a few years ago, about the same time the pokies hit the pubs, and have just been tinkering with my dandy home studio ever since.

[jimijams]

Let me know when your in Sydney, and I'll come watch you play. I love going to live venues, there's nothing like it. I gave up trying to make a dollar from music a few years ago, about the same time the pokies hit the pubs, and have just been tinkering with my dandy home studio ever since.
Will do.

[father ted]

I play drums, just for myself, I'm not in a band. haven't been for a long time though I haven't been looking.

It really revs me up, in a good way, when I stop, all I can think about are rhythms. They just flow through my mind and body.

Someone did tell me, that playing drums is good for your chi.

There is a mongolian myth, these shamans used to play a two sided drum to contact the heavens. The gods got worried that they doing a good job so one of them made the drums one-sided or dis-allowed them playing both sides. Because of only being able to play twice as less, the shamans weren't able to do what they did before. Something like that, but these sorts of stories make me think.:eek:

[mari]

Singing my head off does it for me every time. For years my register was soprano, but as you get older the voice can drop an octave, & now I'm producing these 'russet' tones that the sheep (real ones) which surround my property strangely appreciative.......:o
In the next life I will be an Oboe player, or at least find a more appreciative audience for the voice!

[truthsupplier]

It is truly uplifting to acquaint myself with the like Spirit of the seekers of enlightenment who reside here... intellect should not be a foreign character trait of the populace, rather a mainstay!

Music... that is also a large bite to chew.

I discovered P2P about a year ago, I now catalog over 6500 pieces of music attending all genres. Classical to Classic Rock (having hit the speed limit, 55, my days of head banging are but fond memories), I do however enjoy all facets of the gem which is the expression of that which most often accompanies one to their grave... their own music.

BRAVO!! Carry the banner without request of quarter nor any offered...

[mari]

[QUOTE=truthsupplier;7309]It is truly uplifting to acquaint myself with the like Spirit of the seekers of enlightenment who reside here... intellect should not be a foreign character trait of the populace, rather a mainstay!

Try telling that to the powers that be!;)

[oneofmany]

I play drums, just for myself, I'm not in a band. haven't been for a long time though I haven't been looking.

It really revs me up, in a good way, when I stop, all I can think about are rhythms. They just flow through my mind and body.

Someone did tell me, that playing drums is good for your chi.

There is a mongolian myth, these shamans used to play a two sided drum to contact the heavens. The gods got worried that they doing a good job so one of them made the drums one-sided or dis-allowed them playing both sides. Because of only being able to play twice as less, the shamans weren't able to do what they did before. Something like that, but these sorts of stories make me think.:eek:

My Dad was a professional drummer for 30 years and taught me everything he learned, except experience. Have you found the patterns within patterns yet? The better your hand and feet work, the more complex the rhythm that you can immerse yourself in. Pete Drummond, probably Australia's quickest drummer told me once that if you think you gotten as fast as your going to get, double the speed of what your actually playing, and that's at least your potential with the right technique and practise. The man is a walking mathematician and marathon runner rolled into one :cool:

[father ted]

My Dad was a professional drummer for 30 years and taught me everything he learned, except experience. Have you found the patterns within patterns yet? The better your hand and feet work, the more complex the rhythm that you can immerse yourself in. Pete Drummond, probably Australia's quickest drummer told me once that if you think you gotten as fast as your going to get, double the speed of what your actually playing, and that's at least your potential with the right technique and practise. The man is a walking mathematician and marathon runner rolled into one

Absolutely, I have found patterns within patterns, and patterns within that as well, and so on and so forth. Have you heard of Grant Collins from Queensland? You're so lucky that your dad was a pro drummer, I wish I had that sort of start, but apart from the drum lessons that I've taken, and a few vids, my personal best teacher has been marijuana and mushrooms.

There are musicians around who have all the technical skills in the world and all the experience in all the styles, whom, you can tell they've never bothered to expand their consciousness. You can tell by the way they think, from what they're playing. Does anyone else know what I mean?

Whether it's drugs that get you in a different level of consciousness or something else, I think you need it, to know/understand and to come up with some serious shit, and I ain't joking either. Otherwise you just don't get it.
In this state, I can hear/feel things/sounds/noises in my mind that you won't hear anywhere else, that I learn from, and try to copy, on whatever instrument.

[emma royds]

After reading a post by jimijams on the Kody music thread, it suddenl;y occurred to me how many musios (professional and otherwise) I have struck already on this forum. Does being musical or having a passion for creating music go hand in hand with being a truth-seeker?

Although I never made music a career, I apparently played a mean piano when I was only a wee tacker aged four, and later went on to sing with bands during my teens. More recently I've tried my hand at writing songs and find I get in the 'zone' when I'm doing this. Something wonderful and uplifting flows through me. Do other musios feel this way when they're creating, playing, or singing?

I make my own music, and would like to attempt a track using vocal samples from david ickes speeches. If I could get hold of some david icke vocal samples, and get his permission to use them I could probably come up with a nice track or two, this would be a good way of getting his message across, because then the track could be put up on a popular amateur artists site like acidplanet.com and I could put a link to david's website in my profile

[limelady]

I make my own music, and would like to attempt a track using vocal samples from david ickes speeches. If I could get hold of some david icke vocal samples, and get his permission to use them I could probably come up with a nice track or two, this would be a good way of getting his message across, because then the track could be put up on a popular amateur artists site like acidplanet.com and I could put a link to david's website in my profile

Hi emma royds. Somebody has recently done something like that...I found this on the problem-reaction-solution forum
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xofeZ...elated&search=

Lime

[neondestiny]

I'm a muso (keyboard, harmonica, vocals, guitar) and an artist, while I cannot say wether there is a definate link between creating and a spiritual quest, I do feel like you "in the zone" when I am there :)
I have noticed that a lot of spiritual people I have met, tend to have musical or artistic expression as part of their psyche so you may be onto something.

[oneofmany]

Absolutely, I have found patterns within patterns, and patterns within that as well, and so on and so forth. Have you heard of Grant Collins from Queensland? You're so lucky that your dad was a pro drummer, I wish I had that sort of start, but apart from the drum lessons that I've taken, and a few vids, my personal best teacher has been marijuana and mushrooms.

There are musicians around who have all the technical skills in the world and all the experience in all the styles, whom, you can tell they've never bothered to expand their consciousness. You can tell by the way they think, from what they're playing. Does anyone else know what I mean?

Whether it's drugs that get you in a different level of consciousness or something else, I think you need it, to know/understand and to come up with some serious shit, and I ain't joking either. Otherwise you just don't get it.
In this state, I can hear/feel things/sounds/noises in my mind that you won't hear anywhere else, that I learn from, and try to copy, on whatever instrument.
In my music life, I've been privileged to be in the "eternal moment" where everybody your playing with is totally in sync and you all know what is going to happen next, especially in jazz. Or if you read music, the bars get longer and the notes get bigger and you have all the time in the world to fit whatever you want into the bar.
These moments are rare for a musician and are always savoured, and usually a lifelong bond is associated with the participants of the moment. I can count these moments on one hand in my music life, and the people i shared them with, will always be a part of my life, even if it's just in memory.
About Grant Collins, the only Queensland drummer i know personally is Rodney Ford from Galapagos Duck, and that man is a Drumming role model for me, he is always on the lookout for new sounds he can create, and new techniques he can improve upon, mostly to do with the flow of movement, he's a keen observer of all Drumming techniques and an innovator of them all. I can talk for hours with Rod.

Pleas tell us about Grant?

And has anyone felt this "eternal moment" before?

[father ted]

In my music life, I've been privileged to be in the "eternal moment" where everybody your playing with is totally in sync and you all know what is going to happen next, especially in jazz. Or if you read music, the bars get longer and the notes get bigger and you have all the time in the world to fit whatever you want into the bar.
These moments are rare for a musician and are always savoured, and usually a lifelong bond is associated with the participants of the moment. I can count these moments on one hand in my music life, and the people i shared them with, will always be a part of my life, even if it's just in memory.
About Grant Collins, the only Queensland drummer i know personally is Rodney Ford from Galapagos Duck, and that man is a Drumming role model for me, he is always on the lookout for new sounds he can create, and new techniques he can improve upon, mostly to do with the flow of movement, he's a keen observer of all Drumming techniques and an innovator of them all. I can talk for hours with Rod.

Pleas tell us about Grant?

And has anyone felt this "eternal moment" before?

I personally have not been in this eternal moment, it sounds cool. I haven't found/heard of people with the exact musical mentality as myself, though I haven't been looking. I'm at a stage where I love practicing by myself, I suppose I want to do that before I move on. Or when I have money.

Your story about "eternal moment" reminded me of a thing that I saw on tv about trumpet/saxophone players. This guy was playing with his band (jazz) at a simple club and they had started a song a few hours before 12 o'clock, new years eve. The guy had been playing a solo, or the song, can't remember, for so long straight, that most of audience were leaving, only the few appreciative ones stayed. He was playing the saxophone and had his eyes closed the whole time, for hours, with the same song. Still improvising, two minutes before new years eve, not having seen or heard anything, he started playing a new years tune. He improvised it into his solo, and played it through new years eve. After that he just kept on playing for god knows how long.

Grant Collins is the most underrated drummer in the world. I don't know why he's not so much heard of, are his contemporaries that jealous of him? He knows how to use all his 5 limbs independently from each other, whilst still accenting and doing all those things. He can play the double kick (even when it's empty) like its a snare drum, doing 32nd notes and accenting, whilst playing a tune with one hand on blocks, and doing something with the other, all in different time frame (ostinatos, independence). He uses a whistle every now and again. He does work on these things, but he seems to pull these things out of his ass most of the time.
Check him on google or utube or his website. Likewise, Rodney Ford sounds interesting, It's good to have new references.

[neondestiny]

And has anyone felt this "eternal moment" before? I used to be in a singing group and the awesome feeling that happens when everyone is in tune they called the "cone of sound" was a spiritual sort of experience, plenty of endorphins happening when that happens :)

[oneofmany]

I personally have not been in this eternal moment, it sounds cool. I haven't found/heard of people with the exact musical mentality as myself, though I haven't been looking. I'm at a stage where I love practicing by myself, I suppose I want to do that before I move on. Or when I have money.

Your story about "eternal moment" reminded me of a thing that I saw on tv about trumpet/saxophone players. This guy was playing with his band (jazz) at a simple club and they had started a song a few hours before 12 o'clock, new years eve. The guy had been playing a solo, or the song, can't remember, for so long straight, that most of audience were leaving, only the few appreciative ones stayed. He was playing the saxophone and had his eyes closed the whole time, for hours, with the same song. Still improvising, two minutes before new years eve, not having seen or heard anything, he started playing a new years tune. He improvised it into his solo, and played it through new years eve. After that he just kept on playing for god knows how long.

Grant Collins is the most underrated drummer in the world. I don't know why he's not so much heard of, are his contemporaries that jealous of him? He knows how to use all his 5 limbs independently from each other, whilst still accenting and doing all those things. He can play the double kick (even when it's empty) like its a snare drum, doing 32nd notes and accenting, whilst playing a tune with one hand on blocks, and doing something with the other, all in different time frame (ostinatos, independence). He uses a whistle every now and again. He does work on these things, but he seems to pull these things out of his ass most of the time.
Check him on google or utube or his website. Likewise, Rodney Ford sounds interesting, It's good to have new references.
My Dad played a lot of gigs with a man named Tommy Builder. This man was a brilliant Arranger, and piano player until his international career was cut short by diabetes. Within a year, he was almost blind, but soon got used to playing with no eyesight, however, arranging music was a bit different, his career was over down that avenue.
Skip to 20 years and a lot of seedy bars later, he's asked to back an artist for her show one night, and Tommy, being the nice guy he is said "no worries" and left it at that. 10 minutes later, when the artist found out the piano player was blind, she threw the biggest hissy fit you have ever seen, i mean this chick would not go on...at all.
She punched the club manager in the mouth and said "HOW DARE YOU INSULT MY LIKE THIS, DON'T YOU KNOW WHO I AM".
It took 40 minutes for her to calm down enough, so someone could tell her that the arrangements she was working with were written by Tommy!!!!!
The man came out on stage and slipped over on the way to the piano:D
The look on this woman's face was priceless:eek::eek::eek:
Tommy didn't miss one note all night:cool::cool::cool:

[jimijams]

[I]And has anyone felt this "eternal moment" before?
When you get down to the nuts and bolts of it all that is all there is.

The realization of this fact is the beginning of enlightenment.:)

[oneofmany]

Here's a sample of Australia's Pete Drummond at work http://web.mac.com/pete_drummond/iWeb/www.petedrummond.com/audio.html

I went to one of this guys seminars. I leaned a lot, he has Dave Weckl's respect.

[eternal_spirit]

:D I play acoustic, electric bass and (electric guitar with effects) I've had the eternal moments playing and recording alone and also with other musicians.
The guitar has more possibilities to make more sounds than any other instrument, that's even before you begin to tune the strings differentley or add effects.
sometimes I think what else is there left to play and I'm looking for a new sound, then as if by magic it just happens. I'm no intellectual and a bit clumsy with words and writing music.

I play by memory associating chords with scales ,then the rest is down to experimenting by improvisation which is mainly based on your knowledge of what chords,scales mathematicaly add together. Plus the ability to listen and flow in harmony with the rest of the music by using your ears as a guide, when you are doing this the rate of speed your brain and fingers are moving at is fast, but with practice you just know or can choose exactley what scale you'll play within a fraction of a second.

[father ted]

Yeh, Drummond's cool, he sounds a lot like Weckl exept with double kick, no wonder.

[snog]

Hi I'm a musician. I've found that doing anything creative is really healthy for you, and I enjoy it more and more all the time whether it be writing music or painting. If you don't do seek to create in your life, you just become like everyone else and something inside of you goes to sleep.
It doesn't matter how good or bad you are, as long as you are having fun then that's the main thing.

Here is a link where you can hear my tunes:

http://www.myspace.com/simonsimpson

All comments are welcome, I don't mind if you love it or hate it :D

[oneofmany]

Hi I'm a musician. I've found that doing anything creative is really healthy for you, and I enjoy it more and more all the time whether it be writing music or painting. If you don't do seek to create in your life, you just become like everyone else and something inside of you goes to sleep.
It doesn't matter how good or bad you are, as long as you are having fun then that's the main thing.

Here is a link where you can hear my tunes:

http://www.myspace.com/simonsimpson

All comments are welcome, I don't mind if you love it or hate it :D

great song snog, Mr Howard please is a good piece of song writing.
great influences man, two of my heroes also in Hicks and McKenna. RIP both of them.

some great songs here snog, you should be proud.

[emma royds]

Hi emma royds. Somebody has recently done something like that...I found this on the problem-reaction-solution forum
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xofeZ...elated&search=

Lime



O.K thanks. Do you think David would mind if I used some of his speeches in my tracks Limelady?

[limelady]

O.K thanks. Do you think David would mind if I used some of his speeches in my tracks Limelady?


I'm pretty sure David will be fine with that, particularly if you're doing something in support of his work. But if you are concerned, please private message me with a brief outline of what you would like to do with the clips, and I will see if I can get an answer from you 'from the horses mouth' so-to-speak.

Lime :)