Some People Will Never wake Up

[tedparrot08]

Do you look at the stupid people out there and think no matter what, even if it was right in front of them they would still not get it, the likes of those on the Jeremey Kyle show, brainwashed chavs and fashion victims

Which brings me to my next point, Would the world actually be a better place without these types, in my opinon yes it would therefore do we class ourselfs as a kind of elitist in which we have no room for the brainwashed fools

I really cannot stand most people, especially where I live so let them get the flu vaccine.I really have no time for them and couldnt care what happens to them anyway

[cafetimes1991]

I get that feeling sometimes too. They could have a handgun held to their necks by some NWO stooge, and still not realise there is a conspiracy. It's very frustrating.
But ultimately we can wake enough people up.

[xeon]

Jesus tried to do the same thing and they killed him....

[armoured_amazon]

Do you look at the stupid people out there and think no matter what, even if it was right in front of them they would still not get it, the likes of those on the Jeremey Kyle show, brainwashed chavs and fashion victims

Which brings me to my next point, Would the world actually be a better place without these types, in my opinon yes it would therefore do we class ourselfs as a kind of elitist in which we have no room for the brainwashed fools

I really cannot stand most people, especially where I live so let them get the flu vaccine.I really have no time for them and couldnt care what happens to them anyway

LOL I sometimes feel like this too. The hardest message for me to take on board is "love your enemy". When these types of people are asshats to me, it's hard not to sometimes think, "fuck you".

edit: My mother said I am an elitist and then we fell out. :rolleyes:

[milas_dk]

I see what ur getting at, and I can surely too relate to that feeling. Ive told my roommate/best friend about aspartame 100 times and he keeps drinking light sodas. Not that I want him to die or anything, but its annoying that people dont take ur words serious when u talk about this stuff.
But I guess one major point here is that we need a certain amount of people to wake up in order to stop this agenda being imposed on all of us. But there are surely some people that will go along all the way and never question anything. And their minds and lifes will be manipulated and exploited forever, and they probably dont deserve better, even though many of them are nice people. And maybe some of them will be allowed to have a OK life within the system if they "behave", I dont know.

[bsmurph83]

Do you look at the stupid people out there and think no matter what, even if it was right in front of them they would still not get it, the likes of those on the Jeremey Kyle show, brainwashed chavs and fashion victims

Which brings me to my next point, Would the world actually be a better place without these types, in my opinon yes it would therefore do we class ourselfs as a kind of elitist in which we have no room for the brainwashed fools

I really cannot stand most people, especially where I live so let them get the flu vaccine.I really have no time for them and couldnt care what happens to them anyway

yes, in a sense, the world would be a better place without the sheeple. BUT, think of it this way; they create a world that is more challenging for us to live in. at the soul level we evolve more than we ever could without these earthly impediments because they challenge us to develop, to strive that little bit harder, to better ourselves.

and look at the psychological traits they challenge us to evolve; patience, compassion, understanding...

good old duality...."every cloud..." :D

[adbasque]

Do you look at the stupid people out there and think no matter what, even if it was right in front of them they would still not get it, the likes of those on the Jeremey Kyle show, brainwashed chavs and fashion victims

Which brings me to my next point, Would the world actually be a better place without these types, in my opinon yes it would therefore do we class ourselfs as a kind of elitist in which we have no room for the brainwashed fools

I really cannot stand most people, especially where I live so let them get the flu vaccine.I really have no time for them and couldnt care what happens to them anyway
I think the way you should look at it, is this way:

First of all some people are a little aware, but afraid to admit it, so they live in denial, others haven't got a clue on what's going on.

Now let me ask you a question
Before you woke up, would you want the people who were awake to have the same thoughts about you?

When did you wake up and realised what was going on? Be honest :D
Some people can graps it very quicly others need more time and some will never wake up, but I think we ought to do our best to wake them up.

What you're demonstrating here in my opinion is just a bit of frustration, you want things to change quickly and you believe that these people are holding us all back, but the truth is, even if the whole world is awake, very few will take action.

There's a difference being awake and being awake and willing to change things, and most things will change within us. on the individual basis first then it will reflect the society at large.

Be patient.

[ronisron]

I believe that if you can inform you should, it's sharing the wealth of knowledge, and it makes everyone "in the know" stronger for it. I also believe that not everyone can or will wake up. You almost have to pick and choose carefully in the respect of who you try to wake up. There is a reason that governments are resorting to the whole "rat your out neighbors for anything that seems suspicious" thing that the Nazi's did in Germany. It works....

On a brighter note, there is a big nasty Catholic Church near where I live, and in the light posts surrounding the parking lot, someone was painting the poles with what looks like acrylic nail polish; slogans like "FREEDOM is more important than any Religion" and "Has your priest molested any children?". Brought a smile to my face. I wish someone would spray a huge pentagram on the side of the Masonic Temple with maybe a slogan like "FreeSatanists must go" or something like that. Hmm..... if they do, maybe I'll post a digital photo.

[cafetimes1991]

I wish someone would spray a huge pentagram on the side of the Masonic Temple with maybe a slogan like "FreeSatanists must go" or something like that. Hmm..... if they do, maybe I'll post a digital photo.

Or you could do it? lollers. PM me if you'd like to see some of... someones graffiti. Someone was thinking of spray-painting a church as well, but might get beheaded in Catholic Ireland. ¬¬

[judy101]

Do you look at the stupid people out there and think no matter what, even if it was right in front of them they would still not get it, the likes of those on the Jeremey Kyle show, brainwashed chavs and fashion victims

Which brings me to my next point, Would the world actually be a better place without these types, in my opinon yes it would therefore do we class ourselfs as a kind of elitist in which we have no room for the brainwashed fools

I really cannot stand most people, especially where I live so let them get the flu vaccine.I really have no time for them and couldnt care what happens to them anyway

you might want to take a look in the mirror and ask yourself why you are still asleep. For you to use these words tells me you haven't gotten it yet.

There aren't many people on this post board who gets it, even David Icke doesn't get it yet.

Should I give up on you? You will call me names, you will put me down for even mentioning "you still don't get it". You'll do everything to make me hate you as I try to explain the bigger picture that you still don't see, should I hate you? Should I wish you to be taking this vaccine, let you die out so we can focus on the one's who truly want to experience this waking up?

I clearly have not found the right words that work for you to understand. I see this problem as me not being able to communicate effectively enough yet. I hold myself responsible for YOU NOT GETTING IT YET. Maybe try the same thing when you see someone knowing even less then you.

Take responsibility and then you have all the power. Blame others, get frustrated and you are no different then those that don't get it. The biggest picture that we have to understand is responsibility and accountability. Without those two you will never be aware of anything, you will always see others as the cause of the problem and you will never see the role you play.

Just a thought

[ronisron]

Or you could do it? lollers. PM me if you'd like to see some of... someones graffiti. Someone was thinking of spray-painting a church as well, but might get beheaded in Catholic Ireland. ¬¬

You've got to be extra careful doing something like spraying a Masonic Temple or high profile church, it could literally get you killed. I was hoping someone would mess up the Georgia Guidestones, and while they were a little heavy on the religious overtones, they did a bang up job of it.

There are a lot of young people around my town who are becoming more aware and proactive, organizing meetings, handing out leaflets, spraying slogans.... it's good to see. Keep it up, but be careful about how you get your message out. My oldest son and his little gang of friends are getting into subliminals, and how the music industry is controlled and the messages being sent. He'll spot an all seeing eye, 666 references, all that stuff. He's blown away by how these things are literally everywhere. He's also blown away by how many folks don't see it.

[delamo1999]

I believe that if you can inform you should, it's sharing the wealth of knowledge, and it makes everyone "in the know" stronger for it. I also believe that not everyone can or will wake up. You almost have to pick and choose carefully in the respect of who you try to wake up. There is a reason that governments are resorting to the whole "rat your out neighbors for anything that seems suspicious" thing that the Nazi's did in Germany. It works....

On a brighter note, there is a big nasty Catholic Church near where I live, and in the light posts surrounding the parking lot, someone was painting the poles with what looks like acrylic nail polish; slogans like "FREEDOM is more important than any Religion" and "Has your priest molested any children?". Brought a smile to my face. I wish someone would spray a huge pentagram on the side of the Masonic Temple with maybe a slogan like "FreeSatanists must go" or something like that. Hmm..... if they do, maybe I'll post a digital photo.


This would be great if you could post some pics of this.

As for the freemasons, I used to live by one of their temples and on one full moon when their parking lot was full, I had the thought about putting flyers on their cars. However I am not sure if it would have done much good.

[bemore]

You cant push or force the ideas of NWO, TPTB or one world goverment ruling onto anybody that isnt willing to hear it.

Then your just as bad as whatever it is that rules this world.

Thats if anything like that does really truely exist or if it really isnt just fragments put together to form an idea

[whybeherenow]

I think someone posted elsewhere on this forum - " you can't wake someone who is pretending to be asleep". People know, they just don't care.

[cafetimes1991]

You cant push or force the ideas of NWO, TPTB or one world goverment ruling onto anybody that isnt willing to hear it.

Indeed. That's why now when I distribute leaflets I have this attitude, instead of a more aggressive one:
It's like I'm lending a friend a U2 album. I think they might like their music, but if they don't, oh well. At least I tried.
Or something like that.

[armoured_amazon]

I think someone posted elsewhere on this forum - " you can't wake someone who is pretending to be asleep". People know, they just don't care.

Heh, that's true. They MUST know, how can they not? It resounds within our every cell.

:o

[adbasque]

Jesus tried to do the same thing and they killed him....

Despite the fact most people claim to love truth, but the truth is always attacked and hated.

Just look through history to realise how much truth is really hated and even now we all claim to love the truth, do we really? Or can we handle the truth?

Usually the truth is painful to hear.

[pacal votan]

you might want to take a look in the mirror and ask yourself why you are still asleep. For you to use these words tells me you haven't gotten it yet.

There aren't many people on this post board who gets it, even David Icke doesn't get it yet.

Should I give up on you? You will call me names, you will put me down for even mentioning "you still don't get it". You'll do everything to make me hate you as I try to explain the bigger picture that you still don't see, should I hate you? Should I wish you to be taking this vaccine, let you die out so we can focus on the one's who truly want to experience this waking up?

I clearly have not found the right words that work for you to understand. I see this problem as me not being able to communicate effectively enough yet. I hold myself responsible for YOU NOT GETTING IT YET. Maybe try the same thing when you see someone knowing even less then you.

Take responsibility and then you have all the power. Blame others, get frustrated and you are no different then those that don't get it. The biggest picture that we have to understand is responsibility and accountability. Without those two you will never be aware of anything, you will always see others as the cause of the problem and you will never see the role you play.

Just a thought

Excellent response. May I also add that the ones that are asleep, the ones that are stupid are you..they are us. We are all one just having different experiences adding to the collective consciousness. Waking up is a process. The ones described in the original post are not even ready to wake and may never wake. Think of yourself on an individual level..do you not still have thoughts that are not in line with what you are striving to be? Of course you do. You feel enlightened and awake but you still breakdown those who are not.
I would imagine a truly awakened person would not do that. Think of the asleep as the negative aspect of an awakened collective consciousness. Surround yourself with people that have open minds and help if they ask.

[mr_pixie]

Do you look at the stupid people out there and think no matter what, even if it was right in front of them they would still not get it, the likes of those on the Jeremey Kyle show, brainwashed chavs and fashion victims

Which brings me to my next point, Would the world actually be a better place without these types, in my opinon yes it would therefore do we class ourselfs as a kind of elitist in which we have no room for the brainwashed fools

I really cannot stand most people, especially where I live so let them get the flu vaccine.I really have no time for them and couldnt care what happens to them anyway

I agree there are a lot of ideots out there, and most of them dont deserve the truth because there plebs and will always be plebs. I recken Jeremey Kyle is a brainwash morron as well.

[adbasque]

I think the disease we all suffer from is called "pride" nobody will accept to be told what to do or how to do it, and then we also have the ego in how to help people see the big picture.

Yes a lot of people don't see it yet, some believe a certain truth and others believe in another truth.

Some people like to show off, and the biggest mistake is to assume that others don't get it.
I believe most of us get bits of it, we are different in the ways we deal with the information we gather.

I have noticed a lot of people even on this board, who recently realised that something is wrong, ended up on this board, suddenly they know it all.

This is not about who knows more or who knows best, is what we do afterward that counts.
How we share the information with others, the steps we take to spread the word.

I read someone above mentioned David Icke doesn't get it all, I agree there are a lot of things I don't agree with DI, but whatever little he has, he's doing something about it or at least he's trying to reach as many people as possible.

that's the difference and that's all that matters.

[cafetimes1991]

I think the disease we all suffer from is called "pride" nobody will accept to be told what to do or how to do it, and then we also have the ego in how to help people see the big picture.

Yes a lot of people don't see it yet, some believe a certain truth and others believe in another truth.

Some people like to show off, and the biggest mistake is to assume that others don't get it.
I believe most of us get bits of it, we are different in the ways we deal with the information we gather.

I have noticed a lot of people even on this board, who recently realised that something is wrong, ended up on this board, suddenly they know it all.

This is not about who knows more or who knows best, is what we do afterward that counts.
How we share the information with others, the steps we take to spread the word.

I read someone above mentioned David Icke doesn't get it all, I agree there are a lot of things I don't agree with DI, but whatever little he has, he's doing something about it or at least he's trying to reach as many people as possible.

that's the difference and that's all that matters.



^ Excellent post ^

[iwanttruth]

I agree there are a lot of ideots out there, and most of them dont deserve the truth because there plebs and will always be plebs. I recken Jeremey Kyle is a brainwash morron as well.


I couldn't agree more. I've been putting videos on my facebook news update/homepage and only ONE person has bothered to watch it! Most people need a bash over the head with a frying pan to knock some sense in....it's a bit drastic but effective.

[adbasque]

I couldn't agree more. I've been putting videos on my facebook news update/homepage and only ONE person has bothered to watch it! Most people need a bash over the head with a frying pan to knock some sense in....it's a bit drastic but effective.

People usually reject the following it's a human nature.

Fear the unknown > Hate the unknown > reject the unknown
Add to that conspiracy theorists have been labelled as nuts, so for some people, they don't want to fall into that category of being a nutcase :)

The tptb has done a great job in conditioning and brainwashing.

It also takes some guts to admit that something is definitely wrong with our world.

Believe me most people do know, but because they don't know what to do, they prefere ignore and get on with their lives.
We have to show some patience, and be compassionate not blaming them.
:)

[ronisron]

I also get the sense that a lot of people feel something is not right, but they just can't put their finger on what it is. There is so much panic and fear being thrown at us right now it's very confusing as to where you start. It's easier to ignore something rather than face it.

[dude111]

Do you look at the stupid people out there and think no matter what, even if it was right in front of them they would still not get it, the likes of those on the Jeremey Kyle show, brainwashed chavs and fashion victims

Which brings me to my next point, Would the world actually be a better place without these types, in my opinon yes it would therefore do we class ourselfs as a kind of elitist in which we have no room for the brainwashed fools

I really cannot stand most people, especially where I live so let them get the flu vaccine.I really have no time for them and couldnt care what happens to them anywayAN EXCELLENT POST!!!!

Some people are just so fucked up in thier minds its not funny.....

They choose not to see any dangers and its sad.... (And scary)

[ustane]

I can identify with that feeling. I can't stand Jeremy Kyle and loads of people. I feel frustrated at them building ever more the prison, fine if they want to do it to themselves, but they're holding us back, being as they are, obstacles to us coming together en mass

[tedparrot08]

I can identify with that feeling. I can't stand Jeremy Kyle and loads of people. I feel frustrated at them building ever more the prison, fine if they want to do it to themselves, but they're holding us back, being as they are, obstacles to us coming together en mass

That is exactly right, I keep hearing about "Spread, the word, the more people the better", but it seems obvious we are always going to be a minority.They will not see the truth no matter what

[lyghtkynge]

Spiritual Maturity. Like embryogenesis, there is Spiritual Embryogenesis.

Some have not come out of their spiritual womb state yet: they will hatch when their time has come: you cannot crack the 'egg' from the outside and get a hatchling, you'll disturb the process (generally).

It's hard to wake up when you're sleeping comfy and warm, regardless that your egg is due for the shelves for consumption of...alien consumers.

Thank God that many of you are Awake. Now, quick, run to the Waters and Shelter, there to Grow & Mature.

You cannot save anyone else. But you can lift them, by raising yourself through self-effort. Sad, but so.

[candygirl]

Some will wake up some will not it's hard to accept.
The main issue i feel is trust, trust is a big word.
A lot of people have been so brainwashed that they will trust the demonic BBC cos hey why would the good ole BBC lie to us.
The media is a comfort zone the television is comfort, going to church that's comfatable too.
Asking people to wake up is like saying "go on Jump it's ok i know you don't know whats gonna happen just trust your inner self" for some that is just too much and asking people to leave their comfort zones is like asking someone to litrally to walk over hot coals.
I get frustrated sometimes and now i have reached a point of being relaxed about it all and i keep reminding myself "you can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink".
I think the key words are Trust and Love that's it,
for the many who have not woken up, look at them like children with eyes of love and for the many who spit out hatred, inside yourself, realise it's just fear cos hatred = fear = being out of control.
We are all lulled into a false sense that we are in control of our lives and for some it's too much to handle to realise we are not. So they would rather go back to the comfort zone for the slumber of comfort like a nice comfatable bed. All this NWO is just a stuiped idea somebody thought up and the sheep go back to thinking "why would good ole Jeramy lie to me? why would the BBC? I like my bank and my local Tesco it's comfatable and i know where i am with that".
Remember Trust and Love and Peace and the more of us that do that will send out a message to the masses and more and more will wake up.
Well that's my two pennith worth.
Peace
CG:)

[hagbard_celine]

I can identify with that feeling. I can't stand Jeremy Kyle and loads of people. I feel frustrated at them building ever more the prison, fine if they want to do it to themselves, but they're holding us back, being as they are, obstacles to us coming together en mass

I hate it when he crouches on that step and slags people off:mad:. Why can't he just be honest?:

"I'll tell you what! I have a right to abuse and humiliate vulnerable adults on prime-time television for the entertainment of the Conformist Masses because I'm bloody perfect and saintly and I've never done a thing wrong in my life!"

What a fucktard he is!:p:rolleyes:

[tedparrot08]

I hate it when he crouches on that step and slags people off:mad:. Why can't he just be honest?:

"I'll tell you what! I have a right to abuse and humiliate vulnerable adults on prime-time television for the entertainment of the Conformist Masses because I'm bloody perfect and saintly and I've never done a thing wrong in my life!"

What a fucktard he is!:p:rolleyes:

He is a total twat of the highest order

[relentless]

Some will wake up some will not it's hard to accept.
The main issue i feel is trust, trust is a big word.
A lot of people have been so brainwashed that they will trust the demonic BBC cos hey why would the good ole BBC lie to us.
The media is a comfort zone the television is comfort, going to church that's comfatable too.
Asking people to wake up is like saying "go on Jump it's ok i know you don't know whats gonna happen just trust your inner self" for some that is just too much and asking people to leave their comfort zones is like asking someone to litrally to walk over hot coals.
I get frustrated sometimes and now i have reached a point of being relaxed about it all and i keep reminding myself "you can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink".
I think the key words are Trust and Love that's it,
for the many who have not woken up, look at them like children with eyes of love and for the many who spit out hatred, inside yourself, realise it's just fear cos hatred = fear = being out of control.
We are all lulled into a false sense that we are in control of our lives and for some it's too much to handle to realise we are not. So they would rather go back to the comfort zone for the slumber of comfort like a nice comfatable bed. All this NWO is just a stuiped idea somebody thought up and the sheep go back to thinking "why would good ole Jeramy lie to me? why would the BBC? I like my bank and my local Tesco it's comfatable and i know where i am with that".
Remember Trust and Love and Peace and the more of us that do that will send out a message to the masses and more and more will wake up.
Well that's my two pennith worth.
Peace
CG:)


Love it:D

[george tatum]

You lot need to wake up. Seriously.

You all talk about sheep. Will you look at yourselves? You all think exactly alike and most of you have a Shepherd in David Icke.

There is much arrogance and more than a little paranoid delusion in saying 'it's not me that's crazy, it's the rest of the world'.

Out of all the people you arrogantly and blindly label 'sheeple', how many have you actually met and spoken to? You are talking about MILLIONS of people.

Such judgementalism and such arrogance.

[flyermay]

You lot need to wake up. Seriously.

You all talk about sheep. Will you look at yourselves? You all think exactly alike and most of you have a Shepherd in David Icke.

There is much arrogance and more than a little paranoid delusion in saying 'it's not me that's crazy, it's the rest of the world'.

Out of all the people you arrogantly and blindly label 'sheeple', how many have you actually met and spoken to? You are talking about MILLIONS of people.

Such judgementalism and such arrogance.

Nobody says people are crazy, they are simply hypnotised, mislead, lied to, abused and/or exploited... and many of them love it!!!

We are surrounded by people who do not want to see or do not care (not sure which ones are worse). But I don't know about anyone who does not agree that politicians are professional liers, bankers professional thieves, priests professional bullshithers and royals professional parasites. Meanwhile, our liberties are taken away, our homes repossessed, our money devaluated, our taxes given to the banks, our boys sent to kill and torture innocent people abroad, and a record 1 billion people are starving around the world (that's 1 in 6 human beings, according to the UN).

If telling the truth is arrogance, then I'm completely guilty!!!

[adbasque]

When we point finger at someone, we must be aware that the other three fingers point right back at us, do the experiment, point with your index and see how many fingers point back at you.

It's nature remind us that none of us is perfect.

[marpat]

I also get the sense that a lot of people feel something is not right, but they just can't put their finger on what it is. There is so much panic and fear being thrown at us right now it's very confusing as to where you start. It's easier to ignore something rather than face it.

But are people resonding to that? I dont see lots of frightened people walking around. I see pissed off people but they are more interested in how well their team is doing rather than what is going on in the world.

[flyermay]

I see pissed off people but they are more interested in how well their team is doing rather than what is going on in the world.

That's exactly why so many forms of entertainment exist; it's called "bread and circuses (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bread_and_circuses)". ;)

[marpat]

That's exactly why so many forms of entertainment exist; it's called "bread and circuses (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bread_and_circuses)". ;)

Never even gets a hook in me

[siriusc]

Interesting thread, I must say in answer to "why won't they wake up" that it's their choice, it's called free will. If they don't want to face the truth no one can force them. Would you want to be forced to face someone else's truth? If you continue down this path then why are you better than the social conditioners and enslavers? Aren't you trying to do the same thing?

I know there are a lot of people on the verge right now assessing the situation and I'm confident that when the right catylst for them happens they will awaken en masse.

Continue on your journey for are any of us really fully awake yet? We are just beginning to see the truth and I'm confident that it will be revealed. Don't be discouraged about what others are doing and work on yourselves, this is the best way to attract those looking to open their eyes.

By calling them out and putting them down, calling them names you are just playing into the hands of those that want them to go back to their mind controlled slumber.

[deem]

Do you look at the stupid people out there and think no matter what, even if it was right in front of them they would still not get it, the likes of those on the Jeremey Kyle show, brainwashed chavs and fashion victims

Which brings me to my next point, Would the world actually be a better place without these types, in my opinon yes it would therefore do we class ourselfs as a kind of elitist in which we have no room for the brainwashed fools

I really cannot stand most people, especially where I live so let them get the flu vaccine.I really have no time for them and couldnt care what happens to them anyway

The trouble is, the people who dont take the vaccines are the ones that will be persecuted by TPTB. In America they're building FEMA camps and in cheapskate Britain they're erecting fences which have barbwired tops angled inward to keep those inside from getting out, as opposed to the ones where the tops are angled outward to keep people from getting in, round our schools, which is where British subversives like us will be rehabilatated and then relocated. When marshal law is declared, all schools will be closed and reopened as detention camps. Have a look at the fences round a school near you. Write to the headmaster/mistress, they're probably happy about the free security upgrade their school has suddenly been given, not realising the real reason behind them. Keep your eyes peeled.

[tedparrot08]

The trouble is, the people who dont take the vaccines are the ones that will be persecuted by TPTB. In America they're building FEMA camps and in cheapskate Britain they're erecting fences which have barbwired tops angled inward to keep those inside from getting out, as opposed to the ones where the tops are angled outward to keep people from getting in, round our schools, which is where British subversives like us will be rehabilatated and then relocated. When marshal law is declared, all schools will be closed and reopened as detention camps. Have a look at the fences round a school near you. Write to the headmaster/mistress, they're probably happy about the free security upgrade their school has suddenly been given, not realising the real reason behind them. Keep your eyes peeled.

Excellent point, Where I am their talking about closing down a lot of special needs schools and opening one huge super school, so if the closed school buildings are still there you make a lot of sense

[taylor84]

No one can ever "wake up" Everyone.

But it would be nice if a lot more started too see the cracks.

The youth are obviously the key, but they dont seem to care, big brother and MTV is all they seem to care about.

I dont have a clue about the youth of today but from what i have heard the EMO kids could be potentially intersted in seeking an alternative to the current way of things.

While i don't like to use the term "Chav" i think they are unlikely to awaken, as are the hip-hop crowd.

Maybe i am wrong, i don't know.

[brainstormer]

While i don't like to use the term "Chav" i think they are unlikely to awaken, as are the hip-hop crowd.

Maybe i am wrong, i don't know.

There are many hiphop artists making raps about the truth movement, so much of the hip-hop crowd are aware and listening to their peers. I don't think this is a class thing at all.

I think the problem lies with 9/11 ever fading into the past, and the people are now at a stage where they have 'heard it all before'. They are rigidly fixed now, whichever side of the coin they believe to be the truth, as people generally don't like to be seen as changing their minds all the time.

Non-truthers are too quick to label anyone who talks about this stuff a 'conspiracy theorist'! Almost in a derogatory manner, like society have all moved on and it's no longer trendy to be into this stuff any more. As far as everyone is concerned Bush is out and the 'conspiracy theories' are no longer of interest.

[candygirl]

Love it:D

Thank you :)

[kurupted_flesh]

i think they are unlikely to awaken, as are the hip-hop crowd.

Clearly you know nothing about real Hip-Hop - or its followers. How many have been brought into this conspiracy shit through the music of Immortal Technique, to name just one? There are loads of informative and enlightening hip-hop acts out there, perhaps more than any other Genre. Don't make blanket assertions like this based merely on what you see on T.V or in pop' culture.

[the loner]

I agree with the OP.

I can't stand a lot of the sheeple in our society either.

Let them take the vaccine and we'll be done with them.

[armoured_amazon]

You lot need to wake up. Seriously.

You all talk about sheep. Will you look at yourselves? You all think exactly alike and most of you have a Shepherd in David Icke.

There is much arrogance and more than a little paranoid delusion in saying 'it's not me that's crazy, it's the rest of the world'.

Out of all the people you arrogantly and blindly label 'sheeple', how many have you actually met and spoken to? You are talking about MILLIONS of people.

Such judgementalism and such arrogance.

I've talked to a lot, my job involves mingling with the public. Most don't give a fig, or know something's up but CHOOSE to stay asleep in the bosom of their materialistic lives.

[noewhan]

It's all similar to... Energy agian.

Positive, neutral and negative.

If a + or - is missing, there is no flow.

[armoured_amazon]

It's so frustrating. :(

[cheeney1]

Alot of people don't want change, change of any kind small or Major

They are Frightened to loose what they've already got . I think :cool:

[decode reality]

Until a person experiences some kind of epiphany, they're not going to even have the appetite to change. You can plant tiny seeds with someone who's genuniely interested in your worldview. Otherwise it's tantamount to force feeding someone brocolli after you've just chucked his Big Mac in the skip. :D When you understand the implications that 'waking up' brings, is it any wonder most people choose the "security" of illusion over the discomfort that truth can sometimes bring?

[elixirsoo]

Suffering from agoraphobia, since 2001, I rarely leave my home but I still spread the word. Relying on home deliveries gives me plenty of opportunities to strike up conversations with delivery people etc.. I've handed out copies of Loose Change, encouraged the planting of vegetable gardens, given advice on food storage and even supply information on home remedies. I can count on one hand the number of people I meet who believe the 'official' versions on 9/11 and 7/7.

My approach has always been conversational and I never force my point of view. This has encouraged people to ask me questions about current events and yielded very positive results. The way to teach is to engender a desire to learn. :)

[decode reality]

Suffering from agoraphobia, since 2001, I rarely leave my home but I still spread the word. Relying on home deliveries gives me plenty of opportunities to strike up conversations with delivery people etc.. I've handed out copies of Loose Change, encouraged the planting of vegetable gardens, given advice on food storage and even supply information on home remedies. I can count on one hand the number of people I meet who believe the 'official' versions on 9/11 and 7/7.

My approach has always been conversational and I never force my point of view. This has encouraged people to ask me questions about current events and yielded very positive results. The way to teach is to engender a desire to learn. :)


That's good to read........wish you well. I used to suffer from agoraphobia but thankfully I've managed to overcome it.

[taylor84]

Clearly you know nothing about real Hip-Hop - or its followers. How many have been brought into this conspiracy shit through the music of Immortal Technique, to name just one? There are loads of informative and enlightening hip-hop acts out there, perhaps more than any other Genre. Don't make blanket assertions like this based merely on what you see on T.V or in pop' culture.

Ok maybe im wrong, you are right, i dont know anything about hip hop, so i am ignorant on that subject, as with a lot of other stuff like emos, etc.

Although the reason i dont know nothing about hip hop is i cant stand it, im sure many hip hop artists are talented and good lyricists, but i don't like the whole hip hop scene, especially the actual music.

[deem]

I've talked to a lot, my job involves mingling with the public. Most don't give a fig, or know something's up but CHOOSE to stay asleep in the bosom of their materialistic lives.

Dont give up on them, It makes it all worthwhile even if you can save even just one person taking the vaccine. I was in Cornwall last week with people from my gardening group. The subject of Swine flu came up, and I told them about the vaccines, Baxter int, Jane Bergermhiesters charges, Fema camps and the stashes of plastic coffins. My friend who isnt into David Icke because his jewish friend told him Davids an anti-semite, told me about the new fence round the junior school near him. He was with a friend and they'd noticed the angle of the barbed wire, they both had been puzzled as to why the tops were angled inward as i described in a previous post. My warnings of marshal law and stuff triggered the memory of this little puzzle he'd come upon. With all the reports of FEMA camps being built in America, Id had doubts about the same thing being planned in Britain until this revelation. And he realised what I was telling him had some basis in truth.

[informationx]

Do you look at the stupid people out there and think no matter what, even if it was right in front of them they would still not get it, the likes of those on the Jeremey Kyle show, brainwashed chavs and fashion victims

Which brings me to my next point, Would the world actually be a better place without these types, in my opinon yes it would therefore do we class ourselfs as a kind of elitist in which we have no room for the brainwashed fools

I really cannot stand most people, especially where I live so let them get the flu vaccine.I really have no time for them and couldnt care what happens to them anyway

Think about what you are saying. You are turning into the very thing you presumably hate (NWO etc). You look down upon the mass of people as ignorant fools, who would be better of exterminated.

Its very easy to judge superficially, but if you can give people just a little more time - some will surprise you.

I do agree that some people are really horrible and annoying, and its hard to find any redeeming features.

[tedparrot08]

Think about what you are saying. You are turning into the very thing you presumably hate (NWO etc). You look down upon the mass of people as ignorant fools, who would be better of exterminated.

Its very easy to judge superficially, but if you can give people just a little more time - some will surprise you.

I do agree that some people are really horrible and annoying, and its hard to find any redeeming features.

Fair enough, I was being a bit harsh on them being exterminated but the point still stands, why in the world should I try to help people who laugh at me for trying to inform them and laugh at me for the clothes I wear, sod them.If they find out themselves so be it, I did my bit and it only got me ridiculed

[armoured_amazon]

Fair enough, I was being a bit harsh on them being exterminated but the point still stands, why in the world should I try to help people who laugh at me for trying to inform them and laugh at me for the clothes I wear, sod them.If they find out themselves so be it, I did my bit and it only got me ridiculed

Lmao :D

I do hear you soooooooooo loud and clear. Sometimes I just think 'fine, you're on your own' and think I'll join a tribe of likeminded people when the shit hits the fan and they (the mockers) can lie under the bedcovers they laughed at us from.

[armoured_amazon]

Dont give up on them, It makes it all worthwhile even if you can save even just one person taking the vaccine. I was in Cornwall last week with people from my gardening group. The subject of Swine flu came up, and I told them about the vaccines, Baxter int, Jane Bergermhiesters charges, Fema camps and the stashes of plastic coffins. My friend who isnt into David Icke because his jewish friend told him Davids an anti-semite, told me about the new fence round the junior school near him. He was with a friend and they'd noticed the angle of the barbed wire, they both had been puzzled as to why the tops were angled inward as i described in a previous post. My warnings of marshal law and stuff triggered the memory of this little puzzle he'd come upon. With all the reports of FEMA camps being built in America, Id had doubts about the same thing being planned in Britain until this revelation. And he realised what I was telling him had some basis in truth.

I hear what you're saying, but when people are generally horrible and mean to others, it's hard to find a reason to care.

:o