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fuknut
13-08-2007, 12:38 PM
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Found this very intersting .............. :rolleyes:

The Bottled Water Lie: As Soft Drink Giant Admits Product is Tap Water, New Scrutiny Falls on the Economic and Environmental Costs of a Billion Dollar Industry

he soft drink giant Pepsi has been forced to make an embarrassing admission – its best-selling Aquafina bottled water is nothing more than tap water. Last week Pepsi agreed to change the labels of Aquafina to indicate that the water comes from a public water source. Pepsi agreed to change its label under pressure from the advocacy group Corporate Accountability International which has been leading an increasingly successful campaign against bottled water.

In San Francisco, Mayor Gavin Newsom recently banned city departments from using city money to buy any kind of bottled water. In New York, local residents are being urged to drink tap water.The U.S. Conference of Mayors has passed a resolution that highlighted the importance of municipal water and called for more scrutiny of the impact of bottled water on city waste.

The environmental impact of the country’s obsession with bottled water has been staggering. Each day an estimated 60 million plastic water bottles are thrown away. Most are not recycled. The Pacific Institute has estimated 20 million barrels of oil are used each year to make the plastic for water bottles.

Economically it makes sense to stop buying bottled water as well. The Arizona Daily Star recently examined the cost difference between bottled water and water from the city’s municipal supply. A half liter of Pepsi’s Aquafina at a Tucson convenience store costs one dollar and thirty nine cents. The bottle contains purified water from the Tucson water supply. From the tap, you can pour over six point four gallons for a penny. That makes the bottled stuff about 7,000 times more expensive even though Aquafina is using the same source of water.



From here : http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=07/08/01/1435240

You can not trust anything these days :eek:

THANK YOU

kasalt
13-08-2007, 02:14 PM
I am aware that Aquafina comes from the tap. Its what they do to it after it comes out of the tap that I like:


Prefiltration
Polishing Filter
high-intensity light
reverse osmosis
charcoal filtration
polishing filter
ozonation


What I don't understand is why the media is coming down so hard on purified bottled water but is saying nothing about sodas and all the other toxic junk people are drinking. Let them start reporting the facts on fluoridated water instead of bottled water for a change. That would be a real story!

gordonfreeman
15-08-2007, 09:26 AM
I am drinking one aquafina right now. Ok, now I feel bad. Tries to spit it back out.

I think distilled water is the best.

trumansho
15-08-2007, 05:44 PM
always knew aquafaka was toliet water. But the illuminati is creating everything we eat as well. So what do you expect from them?

kasalt
16-08-2007, 05:09 AM
I like Aquafina. I don't mind that it comes from a municipal source, because as I said they put it through a 7-step purification process. What raises alarm bells with me is why the media is slamming purified bottled water so hard, while at the same time they are encouraging us to drink floridated, chlorinated (and God only knows what else is in it) tap water. Sure plastic bottles are a problem. But what about all the sodas and fruit-flavored sugar water that so many people drink. Don't those come in plastic bottles too? Wouldn't it be better for people to be drinking purified bottled water instead of drinking bottled carbonated sugar water??? Why aren't they criticizing and banning carbonated sugar water too? :confused:

gordonfreeman
16-08-2007, 07:34 AM
They won't banned it. Because people want to enjoy their soft drinks as they enjoy their fluoridated tapped-water. Well, we need water to live, so I really don't mind as much what they put in. It didn't poison us, so it is not really a threat. But, Illuminati is a human elite directed from the hyperdimensional beings and they just follow orders, so the negative reps can suck our negative energy while we sleep.

danielg
17-08-2007, 12:00 AM
I am aware that Aquafina comes from the tap. Its what they do to it after it comes out of the tap that I like:

1. Prefiltration
2. Polishing Filter
3. high-intensity light
4. reverse osmosis
5. charcoal filtration
6. polishing filter
7. ozonation


So you like the fact they turn potentially neutral water into acidic water?
http://www.ethicaljuicers.co.uk/ionizers.php
Drinking anything proccessed by Pepsi is naive to say the least.

kasalt
17-08-2007, 05:41 AM
So you like the fact they turn potentially neutral water into acidic water?
http://www.ethicaljuicers.co.uk/ionizers.php
Drinking anything proccessed by Pepsi is naive to say the least.

It sure beats the heck out of drinking tap water that has floride and chloramines in it.

The pH for reverse osmosis filtered water is 5.2. Ionised alkaline water has a pH of 10.0, but keep in mind that being too alkaline is no better than being too acidic.

By the way, here are the pH levels for other common liquids, perhaps you enjoy some of these favorites:

Green tea - 4 to 6.5 (depending on type, temperature, etc)
Average black coffee - 5.0
Beer - 5.0
Tomato juice - 4.4
pineapple juice - 4.0
Wine - 3.5
citrus juices and cranberry juice - 2.5
Lemon juice - 2.1

http://biology.clc.uc.edu/scripts/pHResl.pl

danielg
17-08-2007, 08:32 AM
Ionised water has a pH value of whatever is selected. There isn't just one setting. And it is less unhealthy to consume something too alkaline instead of too acidic as food can be ate to neutralise alkaline easier that food can neutralise the alkaline, given that acidosis is the main product of digesting food.
Btw lemon doesn't act as an acid inside the body, it works as an alkaline.
There has a great difference in the answer if we consider the

question under views of chemistry or nutritional science. So, lemon is

acidic or alkaline? It commonly believes that lemon is acidic because

it's sour in taste. However, in the view of nutritional science, lemon

is an alkaline food.



Why? The answer is simple as when we take in the food, it will

become alkaline. That's why we classify it as an alkaline food. For

example, when we take in lemon juice (wow.. so sour! :P), It'll be

oxidize to form water, carbon dioxide and an inorganic compound. The

alkaline or acidic nature of the inorganic compound formed determines

whether the food is an alkaline or acidic.



If it contains more sodium, potassium or calcium, it'll become

an alkaline food. Because when sodium compounds dissolve in water, it

forms an alkaline solution.


Na2CO3 + H2O ---> 2NaHCO3
HCO3- + H2O ---> H2CO3 + OH-
2(Na+)2O22- + 2H2O ---> 4Na+OH- + O2

You may doubt, where comes the NaCO3 & 2(Na+)2O22-?.. ha ha.. :-)

Ok, just recall your memories with Junior forms biology. The food you

ingest, no matter that's chickren leg or french fries. It burns!!!

Of coz a fire won't be set, instead, a series of complex chemical

oxidation process will take place. It's similar to an simple experiment

by,

1. heating the food to burn out all of the organic matters.

2. dissolving the ash

3. test it with limus.



In contract, if it contains more sulphur, phosphate or chloride,

it forms an acid food.



So, what is the answer to the question? From the action of

turning red in the experiment when we put lemon juice on blue litmus

paper, we know that lemon juice is indeed acidic.



With different point of view, we may have different result to

determine whether the chemical is acidic or alkaline. So, please take

care of it. ;-)
:)

kasalt
17-08-2007, 09:24 AM
I'm no expert on this or any other subject, but I came across this site on the net, here's a quote, what do you think of it:

"The idea that one must consume alkaline water to neutralize the effects of acidic foods is ridiculous; we get rid of excess acid by exhaling carbon dioxide." http://www.chem1.com/CQ/ionbunk.html

danielg
17-08-2007, 11:38 AM
Me neither, but everything gets debunked online. Some M.D on Quackwatch is debunking it, M.Ds only know what RIPH teaches them, anything else is heretic. I'd sooner trust Japanese scientists and doctors (which promote this) than Western ones though.

nickatnoon61
17-08-2007, 12:41 PM
Me neither, but everything gets debunked online. Some M.D on Quackwatch is debunking it, M.Ds only know what RIPH teaches them, anything else is heretic. I'd sooner trust Japanese scientists and doctors (which promote this) than Western ones though.

Is it just a coincidence that another major bottler of water EVIAN is naive spelt backwards!!! :eek:I refuse to pay $$$ for water! I have a water energizer,filter, for my drinking/garden/cooking purposes. My garden thrives on this water! I also use the POWER PLATES under my water bottles, to further energize the water. I also put written affirmation stickers on my water jugs. This is where I bought my Water Energizer.
http://www.wateralive.excelexgold.com/

nickatnoon61
17-08-2007, 12:44 PM
I like Aquafina. I don't mind that it comes from a municipal source, because as I said they put it through a 7-step purification process. What raises alarm bells with me is why the media is slamming purified bottled water so hard, while at the same time they are encouraging us to drink floridated, chlorinated (and God only knows what else is in it) tap water. Sure plastic bottles are a problem. But what about all the sodas and fruit-flavored sugar water that so many people drink. Don't those come in plastic bottles too? Wouldn't it be better for people to be drinking purified bottled water instead of drinking bottled carbonated sugar water??? Why aren't they criticizing and banning carbonated sugar water too? :confused:

No Kasalt, it would be better to buy your water in bulk and use your own recycled bottles!:)

danielg
17-08-2007, 06:09 PM
The Jupiter Science filters create hexagonal structured water too. :)
http://www.guardiantrader.com/water_ionizer.html
What are power plates anyway?

kasalt
18-08-2007, 05:20 AM
Just found this on Wikipedia, take it for what you think it's worth:

Water ionizer - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The most serious research in the field is from Prof. Sirahata of Japan of Kyushu University (c.f. Electrolyzed-reduced water scavenges active oxygen species, and protects DNA against oxydative damage, in Biochemical and Biophysical Research Communications (BBRC) 237/4.1997). Shirahata's research thoroughly debunks the notion that the alkalinity of the water has anything to do with the health value of the water, only the redox potential of the water does have a value as an antioxidant. Prof. Shirahata's conclusions amount to a complete debunking of the alkalinity theories, which were amateurish fabrications from the early years of this technology when people were embracing any would-be explanations they could find. Unfortunately the manufacturers of domestic water electrolysis equipment (commonly called water ionizers) have been promoting a lot of these old and long obsolete explanations, as well as maintaining the confusing name for the machines, "ionizers."

Renowned alternative and complementary health specialist Dr Andrew Weil, director of the Program in Integrative Medicine at the University of Arizona, makes this comment about alkaline water in response to a query from a consumer:

Question:

"Does Alkaline Water Promote Health? Manufacturers of water ionizers state that their products produce more alkaline water, which allows your body to better absorb minerals and antioxidants from water. Are these health claims real? Do you recommend ionizers?" -- Michael Makoul

Answer:

"Home water ionizers, which I’ve seen offered for sale on the Internet, are just the latest twist in the ongoing effort to promote the notion that alkaline water is somehow protective of your health. The underlying idea is that you can prevent disease by balancing your body’s pH. …None of these claims are true. Furthermore, your body needs absolutely no help in adjusting its pH. Normally, the pH of blood and most body fluids is near 7, which is close to neutral. This is under very tight biological control because all of the chemical reactions that maintain life depend on it. … The health claims for [electrical] water ionizers and for alkaline water are bogus. Save your money."

Dr. Andrew Weil

HEALTH WARNING – Electrical Water Ionizers Cause Pathological Changes
Recently published medical studies into the health effects of drinking alkaline ionised water have shown that it can actually induce pathological (ie; life threatening) changes in the heart muscles on humans.

“Hyperkalemia was observed in males and females given [electrically ionized water] at 15 weeks. Especially in males, pathological changes of necrosis in myocardiac muscle were observed.”

Hyperkalemia is actually a potentially life-threatening illness that can lead to sudden death from cardiac arrhythmias ie; heart attack.

“These results indicate that increases in actomyosin ATPase activity and myosin ATPase activity, plus the decrease in CK activity caused the disorder of coupled reaction in male rats given AKW [electrically ionized water] at 15 weeks-old. It is concluded that this disorder of coupled reaction may cause marked myocardiac necrosis and fibrosis in rats given Alkaline Water.”

Water ionizer - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

danielg
18-08-2007, 11:18 AM
"Many diseases can be easily reversed by simply rectifying body chemistry... International studies show that populations with little or no history of illness, such as cancer, drank higher pH (alkaline) waters. After all potential risk factors were considered and factored out, it became evident that they had been drinking waters with a pH 9.0 to 10.0."

- Dr. Leonard G. Horowitz, author Emerging Viruses: AIDS & Ebola

whitelightrabbit
18-08-2007, 04:14 PM
most bottled water is filtered tap water! what did you think??? and those crappy plastic bottles they use leak carcinagins into the water, especially when exposed to sunlight. and think of all the pollution the manufacture and recycling of small bottles puts out.

that's why we should all get good filters and use our own tap water. get good refillable bottles and carry around our own water.

nickatnoon61
18-08-2007, 06:09 PM
most bottled water is filtered tap water! what did you think??? and those crappy plastic bottles they use leak carcinagins into the water, especially when exposed to sunlight. and think of all the pollution the manufacture and recycling of small bottles puts out.

that's why we should all get good filters and use our own tap water. get good refillable bottles and carry around our own water.

wight on wabbit!!!!!!:D

pacoquerak
19-08-2007, 12:52 AM
I don't think using a machine to increase alkalinity in water is a very good idea, but I think drinking water which is high in alkalinity from disolved minerals is a good idea.

BUt you should be drinking more lacto-fermented foods and beverages! http://www.westonaprice.org/foodfeatures/Realthing.html

danielg
19-08-2007, 11:17 AM
You haven't tried it, if you had there is no way you'd think differently. Btw, disolved minerals, how else does the water becomes alkaline other than by minerals? Juptier Science machines filters have minerals in the filter cartridge, plus an additional calcium cartridge.
http://www.ionizers.org/jupiterfilters.html
Calcium
https://secure15.ozhosting.com/ionlife/shop/shopexd.asp?id=53