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nathan30
13-08-2007, 10:42 AM
some of u might remember i put a post on here a while ago explaining how i met god, was filled with an emense energy and shown a vision of people being held prisoner at a football stadium in london. well, my research hasnt stopped and neither have my experiences. when i get sleep paralysis its very scary put now i go with it and have realised im able to leave my body. im in my flat and completely conciuoss of the whole thing. ive ventured out of the flat and on around the third time i went downstairs and met some people. they are dead but dont know it. i met a girl named emily. the second night i found her again but she had no memory of me. i now know that its the annunaki controlled 4th dimension. its a tricky place with rules. i tried telling her she was dead and i was thrown back to my body. wen i went back to sleep i found myself in a maze/puzzle. simple tests like open the door. easy u might think but wen i stepped forward the door became further away than ever. we are being made fools of and being manipulated by the archetypes of the forth dimension. there are nine dimensions and our job is to evolve and operate on all nine. this is what is happening to me. the trouble is u cant get to the higher dimensions without going through the fourth. we are all part of a play. we r all puppets and now is the time for us to fight back and claim what we r entitled to. they need us in fear. war and sacrifice mean we die scared and get stuck in the fourth. the fourth gets stronger which means our third dimension becomes more ruled by fear. fear nothing. we all live forever. only our physical bodies die. its all a lie to keep us in fear. the annunaki are real and its time to expose the. i recomend a book called the pleidian agenda by barbara hand clow. its all in there. she gets it spot on.

peter19
13-08-2007, 12:05 PM
sounds intresting mate. i have tryed out of bodying but never been able to do it yet and most times anyways i have spent more time reading about it than trying to do what iv been reading about. how do you get out of your body?, and how long do you normally try for about?. id be intrested to hear your technique.

kblood
13-08-2007, 12:26 PM
You sure get some exciting experiences :) How do you like the oneness feelings, so far?

chris
13-08-2007, 12:29 PM
You need to get a book of correspondances, your mind still plays tricks on you and will send you off on wild goose chases.

In the astral you should see more symbolism, look these up in the correspondances and then try to make sense of them. The fourth is worse than the third when it comes to lies and bullshit be careful and get any ideas of believing what you see out of your head, no matter how much you want to believe them.

kblood
13-08-2007, 12:37 PM
Some people have to get put into a psychriatric ward while having so many revelations at once, and that can be very difficult. I could not avoid a few trips there so far. Kind of hard accepting that ghosts can come see you after a person is dead, or that you can go see them in another dimension. Some people are better at accepting their gifts though, so I guess not everyone will have to go there just to take a break from this world.

synergy777
13-08-2007, 12:46 PM
we are talking about lucid dreaming, how is this astral? are you saying when we dream we travel to other dimensions? i thinks its merely thought filtering, role play, imagination etc. i lucid dream everynight, and to be honest now i have control, i just piss about like surfing, flying etc. the best is when i do the dark city routine, create cities, sunshine etc, thats cool.

kblood
13-08-2007, 03:06 PM
we are talking about lucid dreaming, how is this astral? are you saying when we dream we travel to other dimensions? i thinks its merely thought filtering, role play, imagination etc. i lucid dream everynight, and to be honest now i have control, i just piss about like surfing, flying etc. the best is when i do the dark city routine, create cities, sunshine etc, thats cool.

Seems like you figured it out by yourself ;)

synergy777
13-08-2007, 03:16 PM
but whats the point? so what i can engage in arrogant acts of lucid dreaming, what does this provide in the real world, its just not productive/useful in the real world. i like it, but its just a luxury.i need some guidance to use it properly, not just for slacker fantasties like surfing, flying etc. i need a morpheus, grasshopper etc.

chris
13-08-2007, 03:37 PM
we are talking about lucid dreaming, how is this astral? are you saying when we dream we travel to other dimensions? i thinks its merely thought filtering, role play, imagination etc. i lucid dream everynight, and to be honest now i have control, i just piss about like surfing, flying etc. the best is when i do the dark city routine, create cities, sunshine etc, thats cool.

The difference between a lucid dream and the astral is in dream you are exploring your internal universe and in the astral it's external (from my experience and very basic explanation).

It's good that you can lucid dream. Your a sikh right? Next time you do it see if you can connect to your creator and see what happens.

chris
13-08-2007, 03:39 PM
but whats the point? so what i can engage in arrogant acts of lucid dreaming, what does this provide in the real world, its just not productive/useful in the real world. i like it, but its just a luxury.i need some guidance to use it properly, not just for slacker fantasties like surfing, flying etc. i need a morpheus, grasshopper etc.

You can connect with new energies. It's not arrogant it's good to use like its good to use your legs to walk to the shops.

synergy777
13-08-2007, 03:46 PM
i have asked the the creator, all i got was temple mount/dome of the rock, or a white temple in the clouds? can you help bro?

but i figured this was due to me reading about temple mount/dome.

logic bomb
13-08-2007, 04:18 PM
I have lucid dreaming and astral adventures. I don't seek out either anymore, something lucid and vivid will happen when something vital needs to be communicated to me usually and I'm too lazy too seek out the answer for myself.

I agree with Chris in that they are 2 different things but it is cool that you can LD so easily (Syn777). You need to break through the overlay that is still part of your individual self when dreaming. I wish I could sound less obtuse but it really is a practice/experience thing.

@ Syn777

What happens if you will yourself to a real construct, Giza for example? Do you see it as your interpretation or as its real astral counterpart? Hint: In the astral the large pyramid at Giza has a gold top. Try it.

Also what Chris said about the 4th Vs the 3rd. It really is a sewage pit, so be careful... and don't join energy bodies with anyone.

lb

chris
13-08-2007, 04:39 PM
i have asked the the creator, all i got was temple mount/dome of the rock, or a white temple in the clouds? can you help bro?

but i figured this was due to me reading about temple mount/dome.

Sounds pretty good...The reading your book might have just placed your mind in a symbolic mood.

I can’t ever say how well you’re doing because it's usually your subconscious interpretation. The brain is receiving messages very quickly and it is trying to put them logically for your conscious to understand but there is a language barrier so it uses symbolism to help you understand. Your brain can only do so much; you need to go half way to learn your brains symbolism as well.

It also depends very much on the astrological alignment, if it's very positive then you will more likely have a more powerful experience.

Perhaps try to contact morpheus (god of the dream world) to explain the symbolism.

Another way to connect to the energies is before you go to bed to construct a Sikh temple (in your mind) full of it's symbolism and legands and explore it. This usually puts your mind in a very symbolic frame of mind and you will be closer to connecting with your religions energies.

After a while you might be able to connect while awake and you'll experience at the start a kundalini awakening and then while that happens you'll start to see very fuzzy visions and they will grow into full brightly coloured visions full of symbolism...These still are far from perfect as your ego misconstrues it, that's why it is best to get a table of correspondences to make sure your not too far out.

synergy777
13-08-2007, 05:02 PM
logic/chris cheers. i saw the pyramids once, they were all white, and were in lush green environments and not the dessert as they are now.then when i looked at this stuff days later, i found there were white pyramids. also once i was flying, and i was obstructed from leaving the earth by an emerald green pyramid.

kblood
14-08-2007, 03:24 AM
but whats the point? so what i can engage in arrogant acts of lucid dreaming, what does this provide in the real world, its just not productive/useful in the real world. i like it, but its just a luxury.i need some guidance to use it properly, not just for slacker fantasties like surfing, flying etc. i need a morpheus, grasshopper etc.

Compare this to the matrix and try to see yourself as part of the system. Your creativeness might in fact help create new worlds ;)

kblood
14-08-2007, 11:03 AM
i have asked the the creator, all i got was temple mount/dome of the rock, or a white temple in the clouds? can you help bro?

but i figured this was due to me reading about temple mount/dome.

The white temple in the skies? Sounds like a symbol of heaven to me. Maybe you would agree?

monique
14-08-2007, 12:12 PM
the fourth gets stronger which means our third dimension becomes more ruled by fear. fear nothing. we all live forever. only our physical bodies die. its all a lie to keep us in fear. the annunaki are real and its time to expose the. i recomend a book called the pleidian agenda by barbara hand clow. its all in there. she gets it spot on.

Good post and excellent book indeed.