Horrific baby-throwing ritual in India

[real6]

Horrific baby-throwing ritual in India where toddlers are tossed from roof for good luck

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7G0C9uvLuQk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZYzCcxF2IzE

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1204699/Pictured-Horrific-baby-dropping-ritual-India-sees-toddlers-thrown-roof-good-prosperity.html

These horrific pictures show terrified toddlers being thrown from a roof before plummeting 15metres onto a bedsheet below.

The youngsters, who appear to be aged around two, can be heard screaming as they are dangled in the air before being dropped.

This particular ritual took place in the village of Harangal, Parbhani, in western India's Maharashtra.
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Enlarge Devotees at a shrine in Harangal village of Parbhani in western India's Maharashtra dangle the frightened looking baby 50 feet above the cloth sheet below

Devotees at a shrine in Harangal village of Parbhani in western India's Maharashtra dangle the frightened looking baby 50 feet above the cloth sheet below

Enlarge Then, arms and legs splayed out, the screaming baby is dropped

Then, arms and legs splayed out, the screaming baby is dropped...
Enlarge ...Landing safely on the sheet below

...Landing safely on the sheet below

Hundreds of people turned out for the annual event, which is thought to have been followed by Hindus and Muslims for nearly 700 years in the belief the fall ensures good health and prosperity for their families.

After the child lands and bounces on the bed sheet, held taught by a group of around 14 men, he or she is then quickly passed through the crowd to their mothers.

Another ritual was taking place on the same day in Sholapur, about 280 miles south of Mumbai.
See video of the startling ritual here

It led to rights activist lashing out at officials who allowed the hundreds of infants to be dropped from the roof of the Baba Umer Durga mosque.

Local officials told television news stations Friday that there had been no reports of injuries.

With high child mortality rates, especially in India's rural areas, many people resort to rituals which they believe can ensure their children's health.
Enlarge Devotees dangle another baby over the edge of the shrine during the ritual, which has been taking place for 700 years

Devotees dangle another baby over the edge of the shrine during the ritual, which has been taking place for 700 years

Enlarge It's not just the drop that's dangerous: The babies are carried to the top of the shrine in bundles tied to the backs of dangling devotees

It's not just the drop that's dangerous: The babies are carried to the top of the shrine in bundles tied to the backs of dangling devotees

'This shows the complete failure of the local administration to prevent this practice and to create awareness about children's health,' said Ranjana Kumari, a civil rights activist in New Delhi.

'It is also a reflection of the lack of access to health services, that forces people to behave in this irrational manner'.

India's National Commission for Protection of Child's Rights issued a notice Thursday to the local administration in Sholapur and has begun investigations into the practice.
Enlarge A baby cries in terror - but he's safe on the ground now

A baby cries in terror - but he's safe on the ground now
Enlarge Another baby is dangled over the edge shortly before being thrown for 'good prosperity'

Another baby is dangled over the edge shortly before being thrown for 'good prosperity'

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1204699/Pictured-Horrific-baby-dropping-ritual-India-sees-toddlers-thrown-roof-good-prosperity.html#ixzz0NQ6kW2Wl

[edelweiss pirate]

Kinda like some kind of initiation.

[gilly]

"After the child lands and bounces on the bed sheet, held taught by a group of around 14 men, he or she is then quickly passed through the crowd to their mothers."

Never heard of this before - it seems very odd.

It also seems that Mail journalists are unfamiliar with correct use of the English language these days!

[dangermouse]

oops i missed

[d4rk3v1l]

Safer than vaccine injections via forced inoculations at birth...

[rowantk]

I bet the nappy sales go up during this period!

[oneup]

I bet the nappy sales go up during this period!

LOL:D
But seriously, even though it doesn't look THAT BAD, I mean I've seen worse, I think it is to cause trauma, like trauma-based mind control.

[olas]

Horrific baby-throwing ritual in India where toddlers are tossed from roof for good luck

...what's your point of view about this?

[krakhead]

The news report did say that, in 500 (? in the text it says 700) years, no child has ever been harmed.

Is it because I don't have kids that I don't see this as being that bad? It's hardly genital mutilation is it?

[bobbydiva]

We must remember different countries have different cultures. If the baby's are not harmed (other than maybe shock) I don't think it is a massive deal.

[rodin]

Quite interesting but not malign

edit

title is tabloid truthbending

[jammasterj13]

When babies were born in ancient Sparta, Spartan soldiers would come by the house and check the baby. If the baby did not appear healthy and strong, the infant was taken away, and left to die on a hillside, or taken away to be trained as a slave . Babies who passed this examination were assigned membership in a brotherhood or sisterhood, usually the same one to which their father or mother belonged.

Horses for courses.

[gripit]

Ah, so that's what Michael Jackson was up to.

http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/782/mikeybaby.jpg (http://img205.imageshack.us/i/mikeybaby.jpg/)

[kweli]

When babies were born in ancient Sparta, Spartan soldiers would come by the house and check the baby. If the baby did not appear healthy and strong, the infant was taken away, and left to die on a hillside, or taken away to be trained as a slave . Babies who passed this examination were assigned membership in a brotherhood or sisterhood, usually the same one to which their father or mother belonged.

Horses for courses.

Not a lot different to modern day britain then?

[wildhorse]

Not a lot different to modern day britain then?

sadly not :(

still...lets throw em off a roof top, thats gotta be fun for them!!! :eek:

[leviathanstaar]

I'd call it stupidity rather than dangerous.

Let them tape housefly's to their heads and dance around singing bzzzz if they want :P

[hawk]

I bet the nappy sales go up during this period!

For who? the adults? LOL!:p

[liltza]

it's hardly horrific now is it

[gilly]

I expect it's the equivalent of bungee jumping for the babies.

[the itinerant shrubber]

Looks harmless enough and who's to say that the scare the babies get doesn't benefit them in some way later in life. It may allow them to deal with stress better.
Or maybe we should just carry on being intolerant and judgmental of other cultures,just like they want us to be. Especially if those cultures are Muslim.

[gods sun]

i can see how it would make a child stronger, its probally the first time a child has experianced shock, the earlier they experiance it the more they can control there shock or fear. lets see how many of the children fear heights later in life probally none off them or get shocked to easily.

[solarwindspirit]

depending on how young I would be concerned with shaken baby syndrome

studies prove that constant touch and cuddling makes your babies smarter
increasing the neurons in the brain at young ages

[gilly]

I don't think this practice is 'horrific', but just from a common-sense point of view, I don't think it's a good thing to toss infants around, and I can't see how subjecting them to a few moments of terror might make them better able to handle shock!

[decim]

It'll never catch on over here.

[ytch]

Well, let´s compare:

Throwing your kid on the ground

vs

Vaccinations,
"Fluorettes" as soon as your baby´s teeth start to grow,
Injections of whatever it is right after birth

hhmmmm...:rolleyes:

all pieces of crap in my opinion...:mad:

Love & Lalala

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[metacomet]

LOL:D
But seriously, even though it doesn't look THAT BAD, I mean I've seen worse, I think it is to cause trauma, like trauma-based mind control.

Yes.

Vedic scholars would not agree of this practice because they are aware what part of people is responsible for these kind of things. It is the demonic consciousness inside people which causes them to seek dramatic and painful experiences for others and then to feed off the energy created from that terror and fear.

The crowd is feeding on the fear of these children via focus of attention. They are feeding something else as well.

They might as well be carrying out mock executions and reveling in the terror of the victim. In this case the victims are too young to even say their last words... just little bundles of innocent and pure terror. *sigh* Poor kids.

I expect it's the equivalent of bungee jumping for the babies.

Except grown adults get to make the decision to jump in the end.

Looks harmless enough and who's to say that the scare the babies get doesn't benefit them in some way later in life. It may allow them to deal with stress better.

No. These kids will have gray hairs and nervous ticks and will be terrified of crowds and heights. If they're lucky, that's all they'll take with them from this experience into childhood and adolescence. If they're not lucky, they will have vivid memories and nightmares about this experience for the rest of their life.

Can you imagine how hard it must be for these toddlers to get through the night without having a nightmare about this experience?

i can see how it would make a child stronger, its probally the first time a child has experianced shock

The first time a child experiences shock is when they enter the world. And it takes them many months to 'recover' from that. Once aware and comfortable in this reality, to take them to the top of a building and drop them, must completely undo any stability they feel in this reality.

[runciter]

^ 100% with you on this :)

[runciter]

Kinda like some kind of initiation.

and i hate initiations, they block the natural energy flow.

[resistance]

I don't see what the problem is TBO, and as other posters have pointed out, it's much safer than the swindle flu vaccine, GM food, flouride water, the BBC etc etc. Maybe some of the parents that are viewing this as being so terrible, should take a look closer to home at the concealed dangers that their children or under.

[breezinreezin]

It's an end of innocence and trust ceremony. A practice designed to traumatise those infants and create compliant, sons and daughters, IMO.

The events of these moments will be locked somatically and with great emotional charge. Fear will be the backdrop of their lives. Since infants cannot process such experiences abstractly, they'll not be able to attribute anything other than the worst motives to their caregivers, but since that's too terrible a thing to conceive, they will deem themselves to be at fault as inherently bad and worthless. They will fear and distrust their caregivers, but forever be trying to regain that broken bond of trust, by behaving exactly as their caregivers tell them and being model children. Intimacy will not be something that many of them will never be able to truely experience again.

It's the abhorrent, disgusting practice of the barbaric and probably the demonic.

[decim]

Are they hindus or some weird aeronautical baby sect?

[runciter]

I don't see what the problem is TBO, and as other posters have pointed out, it's much safer than the swindle flu vaccine, GM food, flouride water, the BBC etc etc. Maybe some of the parents that are viewing this as being so terrible, should take a look closer to home at the concealed dangers that their children or under.

trauma.

it's a bit diabolical to make questionable comparisons in order to downplay the harmful idiocy of this tradition.

all the things you mentioned aren't knowingly perpetrated by the parents, or by the adults of the "tribe".

[runciter]

It's an end of innocence and trust ceremony. A practice designed to traumatise those infants and create compliant, sons and daughters, IMO. The events of these moments will be locked somatically and with great emotional charge. Fear will be the backdrop of their lives. Since infants cannot process such experiences abstractly, they not be able to attribute anything other than the worse motives to their caregivers, but since that too terrible a thing to conceive, they will deem themselves to be at fault and inherently bad and worthless. They will fear and distrust their caregivers, but forever be trying to regain that broken bond of trust, by behaving exactly as their caregivers tell them to and being model children. Intimacy will not be something that many of them will never be able to truely experience again.

It's the abhorrent, disgusting practice of the barbaric and probably the demonic.

it's fear that perpetuates itself in a vicious circle.

adults who do to their children the same things they were subjected to, almost robotically.

[runciter]

i can see how it would make a child stronger, its probally the first time a child has experianced shock, the earlier they experiance it the more they can control there shock or fear. lets see how many of the children fear heights later in life probally none off them or get shocked to easily.

illuminati shock doctrine for families, wonderful.

so the more you get traumatized the stronger you become?

ask the guantanamo boys.

[resistance]

trauma.

[quote]it's a bit diabolical to make questionable comparisons in order to downplay the harmful idiocy of this tradition.

I couldn't care less TBO, If you are so worried about their safety then go and do something about it.

all the things you mentioned aren't knowingly perpetrated by the parents, or by the adults of the "tribe".

No, which makes it far worse in my view. The truth is right in front of them, yet they choose not to listen.

[runciter]

Looks harmless enough and who's to say that the scare the babies get doesn't benefit them in some way later in life. It may allow them to deal with stress better.
Or maybe we should just carry on being intolerant and judgmental of other cultures,just like they want us to be. Especially if those cultures are Muslim.

scaring babies benefits them, i'm learning a lot of new things.

no, of old things.

[breezinreezin]

it's fear that perpetuates itself in a vicious circle.

adults who do to their children the same things they were subjected to, almost robotically.

I 100% agree and have, indeed, experienced it. They are acting like automatons.

I have a theory in the making about this sort of thing, and that's why I said the practice is, 'probably demonic'. But I haven't fully sketched it out, so won't go into it here.

[runciter]

I couldn't care less TBO, If you are so worried about their safety then go and do something about it.

No, which makes it far worse in my view. The truth is right in front of them, yet they choose not to listen.

again diabolical arguments.

those babies deserve to be traumatized because they live in a distant country.

and western adults are probably guilty of what the elite is secretly doing to their children.

[runciter]

I 100% agree and have, indeed, experienced it. They are acting like automatons.

I have a theory in the making about this sort of thing, and that's why I said the practice is, 'probably demonic'. But I haven't fully sketched it out, so won't go into it here.

i perfectly know what you're talking about, i have experienced it personally as well.

yes, people can act as if an external force is driving them, doing stupid and harmful things.

demonic possession is a good metaphor, i don't know how it works exactly but it describes it well.

[resistance]

again diabolical arguments.

those babies deserve to be traumatized because they live in a distant country.

and western adults are probably guilty of what the elite is secretly doing to their children.

Diabolical in your view yes, but not my view. If they want to throw their children from roof tops, to be caught on stretched out blankets, then that's their Business not mine, or anybody elses.
I never said western adults are guilty of bringing harm on their children, but they are guilty to an extent of being ignorant. The truth about vacines, GM foods, media etc etc etc is all out there, but most people just don't want to know. So to an extent they are guilty for not researching for themselves, certain issues in more depth, instead they choose to let the media do their thinking for them, they have the choice.

[gilly]

Except grown adults get to make the decision to jump in the end.

I hope you don't think I was suggesting it was a good thing (you can't have done if you read my other posts on this thread).

[runciter]

Diabolical in your view yes, but not my view. If they want to throw their children from roof tops, to be caught on stretched out blankets, then that's their Business not mine, or anybody elses.

yeah, who gives a **** about the children.

I never said western adults are guilty of bringing harm on their children, but they are guilty to an extent of being ignorant. The truth about vacines, GM foods, media etc etc etc is all out there, but most people just don't want to know. So to an extent they are guilty for not researching for themselves, certain issues in more depth, instead they choose to let the media do their thinking for them, they have the choice.

they are guilty of trusting other human beings, this is their guilt.

[breezinreezin]

i perfectly know what you're talking about, i have experienced it personally as well.

yes, people can act as if an external force is driving them, doing stupid and harmful things.

demonic possession is a good metaphor, i don't know how it works exactly but it describes it well.

My father did something similar to me and to this day is at a loss as to what went on and the seriousness of the incident. Every other person I've talked to about it said that it was a shocking thing to do. Yet my father is at a loss. I now understand this being 'at a loss'. It's like being temporarily possessed. He had no idea that what he was doing was to have such serious consequences.

I believe that the trauma, especially at such an early age, disrupts the energy flow of a human. It acts like a flaw, growing slowly and getting ever more disruptive as a child ages. The flaw or congregation of stagnant energy, inhibits the free flow of expansive, surrender types of emotions, such as love and joy, and, instead, enhances the negative contractive emotion of fear.

Fear=Compliance

[resistance]

[quote]they are guilty of trusting other human beings, this is their guilt.


Yes unfortunatley, it's sad I know, but they are to an extent responsible for letting the beast out of the cage.

[runciter]

My father did something similar to me and to this day is at a loss as to what went on and the seriousness of the incident. Every other person I've talked to about it said that it was a shocking thing to do. Yet my father is at a loss. I now understand this being 'at a loss'. It's like being temporarily possessed. He had no idea that what he was doing was to have such serious consequences.

I believe that the trauma, especially at such an early age, disrupts the energy flow of a human. It acts like a flaw, growing slowly and getting ever more disruptive as a child ages. The flaw or congregation of stagnant energy, inhibits the free flow of expansive, surrender types of emotions, such as love and joy, and, instead, enhances the negative contractive emotion of fear.

Fear=Compliance

don't know if i can add anything meaningful, i believe you hit the target.

the trauma creates a dark zone in your brain/spirit, you're not the ruler there.

sometimes it works like a connection to a hive mind, sometimes it's like a black hole.

[runciter]

Yes unfortunatley, it's sad I know, but they are to an extent responsible for letting the beast out of the cage.


i agree that in a certain sense they are responsible, but i think it's healthier to address the true perpetrators :)

[juttkeys]

Child abuse pure and simple, just to satisfy someones superstitions, someone should throw the adults off and suggesting there's nothing wrong with it just because there are worse things is a bit like saying stealing from someone is fine because people get murdered.

and suggesting that none of them will fear heights in later life afterwards is a seriously fucked up assumption

[mr t]

Horrific baby-throwing ritual in India where toddlers are tossed from roof for good luck

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7G0C9uvLuQk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZYzCcxF2IzE

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1204699/Pictured-Horrific-baby-dropping-ritual-India-sees-toddlers-thrown-roof-good-prosperity.html

These horrific pictures show terrified toddlers being thrown from a roof before plummeting 15metres onto a bedsheet below.

The youngsters, who appear to be aged around two, can be heard screaming as they are dangled in the air before being dropped.

This particular ritual took place in the village of Harangal, Parbhani, in western India's Maharashtra.
Scroll down to see the video...
Enlarge Devotees at a shrine in Harangal village of Parbhani in western India's Maharashtra dangle the frightened looking baby 50 feet above the cloth sheet below

Devotees at a shrine in Harangal village of Parbhani in western India's Maharashtra dangle the frightened looking baby 50 feet above the cloth sheet below

Enlarge Then, arms and legs splayed out, the screaming baby is dropped

Then, arms and legs splayed out, the screaming baby is dropped...
Enlarge ...Landing safely on the sheet below

...Landing safely on the sheet below

Hundreds of people turned out for the annual event, which is thought to have been followed by Hindus and Muslims for nearly 700 years in the belief the fall ensures good health and prosperity for their families.

After the child lands and bounces on the bed sheet, held taught by a group of around 14 men, he or she is then quickly passed through the crowd to their mothers.

Another ritual was taking place on the same day in Sholapur, about 280 miles south of Mumbai.
See video of the startling ritual here

It led to rights activist lashing out at officials who allowed the hundreds of infants to be dropped from the roof of the Baba Umer Durga mosque.

Local officials told television news stations Friday that there had been no reports of injuries.

With high child mortality rates, especially in India's rural areas, many people resort to rituals which they believe can ensure their children's health.
Enlarge Devotees dangle another baby over the edge of the shrine during the ritual, which has been taking place for 700 years

Devotees dangle another baby over the edge of the shrine during the ritual, which has been taking place for 700 years

Enlarge It's not just the drop that's dangerous: The babies are carried to the top of the shrine in bundles tied to the backs of dangling devotees

It's not just the drop that's dangerous: The babies are carried to the top of the shrine in bundles tied to the backs of dangling devotees

'This shows the complete failure of the local administration to prevent this practice and to create awareness about children's health,' said Ranjana Kumari, a civil rights activist in New Delhi.

'It is also a reflection of the lack of access to health services, that forces people to behave in this irrational manner'.

India's National Commission for Protection of Child's Rights issued a notice Thursday to the local administration in Sholapur and has begun investigations into the practice.
Enlarge A baby cries in terror - but he's safe on the ground now

A baby cries in terror - but he's safe on the ground now
Enlarge Another baby is dangled over the edge shortly before being thrown for 'good prosperity'

Another baby is dangled over the edge shortly before being thrown for 'good prosperity'

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1204699/Pictured-Horrific-baby-dropping-ritual-India-sees-toddlers-thrown-roof-good-prosperity.html#ixzz0NQ6kW2Wl

why would muslims name a mosque after a hindu goddess? This story is propoganda.

[clint_giles]

no harm no foul....

here in north america familes all over the place subject their children to tap water and toothpaste with flouride.
i think this is child abuse.

[vetis]

The news report did say that, in 500 (? in the text it says 700) years, no child has ever been harmed.

Is it because I don't have kids that I don't see this as being that bad? It's hardly genital mutilation is it?

well lets drop you from 30-45 times your height onto a sheet and see if it doesnt scare you? causing terror to a child should always be seen as bad.

[amethyst]

well lets drop you from 30-45 times your height onto a sheet and see if it doesnt scare you? causing terror to a child should always be seen as bad.

I agree. I think the babies would have a hard time trusting their parents after mum or dad dropped them 50 ft.

[shellygurrrl]

Yes, we must expose our young to fear and terror, that must be really healthy for them indeed. :rolleyes:

Total ignorance. Fear is not one of the first emotions and states of consciousness our young should experience.

[whybeherenow]

So 700 years ago someone thought 'hmm it think it would be good luck to drop babies 15 metres'. And then people just copy that for 700 years? Another demonstration that people will believe any bollocks they are born into.

[runciter]

no harm no foul....

here in north america familes all over the place subject their children to tap water and toothpaste with flouride.
i think this is child abuse.

no harm? are you sure? no trauma? :)

and do north american families know what fluoridation is all about?

or maybe there is a group of people that is waging a secret war against the rest of mankind?

[oneup]

I don't see what the problem is TBO, and as other posters have pointed out, it's much safer than the swindle flu vaccine, GM food, flouride water, the BBC etc etc. Maybe some of the parents that are viewing this as being so terrible, should take a look closer to home at the concealed dangers that their children or under.

I agree. But that something else is worse doesn't mean it's good.

[limelady]

Its really hard to believe ANYBODY would think this practice was either good for babies (at best) or harmless (at least).

I like to think I have a fairly rational mind, and I can see no good coming from deliberately and needlessly traumatising an infant.

[juttkeys]

no harm no foul....

here in north america familes all over the place subject their children to tap water and toothpaste with flouride.
i think this is child abuse.



no harm ! ?? how about the trauma!!???

Im guessing that you dont have children, I certainly wouldnt let anyone throw my daughter off a 20ft building