Britney Spears

[nowhere]

Hey-

I live in Hollywood and grew up with the whole celebrity scene so it's funny when people think that "celebrities" are cool. Ugh, there are such losers.
Just so you all know they are all on blowand a whole lotta other shit.

Anyway, I have many Lindsey, Nicole, Paris, Britney, Hollywood in general inside trash and they are all, believe me, on blow and beyond mind controlled puppets.

So anyway, yesterday at about 12:30 am - BRITNEY SPEARS ,her Body Guard plus 2 gay white friends/ employees? came to eat at the Restaurant I hostess at. She was so gross. She took like 3 bathroom trips 10 min. each, either to do blow which I found none, so really it was just to cause a speculation. She ordered food and didn't touch a bit of it. My friend who was was the waitress asked her what she wanted to drink. She said champagne so my friend offered her a choice between two of our best and Britney says...'Okay!' My friend was like okay what? Which one do you want? So Britney completely picks something else and says House Chardonnay! Anyway she drank half a glass then stuck the glass in my friends face and said more please!!!!
My friend said she was on drugs and beyond stupid. "No way this bitch can even spell her name." I was like... or more like MIND Controlled. She than asked for a to go cup for the booze! And she only tipped my friend a regular lousy 15%. Anyway she left and like 100 photographers/ bystanders took pictures of her. OH!!
and the best part . . . she went to the restroom for like 10 min. before she left and I went in after her to fix my hair. I SWEAR TO GOD > > >
This bitch dropped a #2 and didn't flush the toilet !!!!!!!!

Anyway, I was interviewed by stupid magazines today and this will probably come out in the next issue of US Weekly with my name.

The whole time I was like...WHO CARES??!!.
I encounter celebrities all the time, and I know that they are controlled puppets to drag attention away from big issues. Britney couldn't even talk , she was so out of it! 'They' try to blame her and Lindsey as to being on drugs for their behaviors ,which they are, but it's also all the mind control. They literally look like clueless , drugged, puppies when you see them.

It's so blatant to me that they are puppets, I wish others could see that.
I'm glad I grew up around this to see Hollywood for what it really is.
It's soooo sad that people look up to these losers for validation to their own lives.

[shodan]

Hello nowhere - What an awesome post. Welcome to the forum, more posts please :D

[lydia78]

Hi Welcome,

Cool post!!:D

Had any experiences with Keanu reeves??;)

[auron]

and the best part . . . she went to the restroom for like 10 min. before she left and I went in after her to fix my hair. I SWEAR TO GOD > > >
This bitch dropped a #2 and didn't flush the toilet !!!!!!!!

You should have put it on e-bay. You wouldn't have to work again! :D:D

[lydia78]

EEEEEEEEEEEWWWWWWWW!!!! LOL Auron!!:D

[chattanova]

This bitch dropped a #2 and didn't flush the toilet !!!!!!!!


YIKES!!! :D

Welcome nowhere, great to have you onboard !

[synergy777]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/showbiz/showbiznews.html?in_article_id=474914&in_page_id=1773

Unbelievable: Britney's new look for Elizabeth Arden
Last updated at 11:10am on 13th August 2007

The new ad for Britney Spears' latest fragrance Believe shows a Britney almost too beautiful to be true. In a surprising shift from her recent 'bad-girl' look, the singer looks svelte and toned, with a full head of glossy blond hair.


It's a far cry from the shaved head, tantrum-throwing Britney making fashion faux pas that have been tabloid fodder for months. In short, she looks like the Britney of old.

In fact, Britney looks so suspiciously good that fragrance firm Elizabeth Arden have been forced to issue a statement refuting claims they used a body double.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/showbiz/showbiznews.html?in_article_id=475000&in_page_id=1773


look at the airbrushed pics and the real britney, advertising is shady, lol

[celtic isis]

Hey-

I live in Hollywood and grew up with the whole celebrity scene so it's funny when people think that "celebrities" are cool. Ugh, there are such losers.
Just so you all know they are all on blowand a whole lotta other shit.

Anyway, I have many Lindsey, Nicole, Paris, Britney, Hollywood in general inside trash and they are all, believe me, on blow and beyond mind controlled puppets.

So anyway, yesterday at about 12:30 am - BRITNEY SPEARS ,her Body Guard plus 2 gay white friends/ employees? came to eat at the Restaurant I hostess at. She was so gross. She took like 3 bathroom trips 10 min. each, either to do blow which I found none, so really it was just to cause a speculation. She ordered food and didn't touch a bit of it. My friend who was was the waitress asked her what she wanted to drink. She said champagne so my friend offered her a choice between two of our best and Britney says...'Okay!' My friend was like okay what? Which one do you want? So Britney completely picks something else and says House Chardonnay! Anyway she drank half a glass then stuck the glass in my friends face and said more please!!!!
My friend said she was on drugs and beyond stupid. "No way this bitch can even spell her name." I was like... or more like MIND Controlled. She than asked for a to go cup for the booze! And she only tipped my friend a regular lousy 15%. Anyway she left and like 100 photographers/ bystanders took pictures of her. OH!!
and the best part . . . she went to the restroom for like 10 min. before she left and I went in after her to fix my hair. I SWEAR TO GOD > > >
This bitch dropped a #2 and didn't flush the toilet !!!!!!!!

Anyway, I was interviewed by stupid magazines today and this will probably come out in the next issue of US Weekly with my name.

The whole time I was like...WHO CARES??!!.
I encounter celebrities all the time, and I know that they are controlled puppets to drag attention away from big issues. Britney couldn't even talk , she was so out of it! 'They' try to blame her and Lindsey as to being on drugs for their behaviors ,which they are, but it's also all the mind control. They literally look like clueless , drugged, puppies when you see them.

It's so blatant to me that they are puppets, I wish others could see that.
I'm glad I grew up around this to see Hollywood for what it really is.
It's soooo sad that people look up to these losers for validation to their own lives.

welcome nowhere!
hehe you're FANTASTIC! :D

i know it's sad - if anything is an illusion it's those people and their fake lives.

Britney is a pig lol

[synergy777]

Celebrities Without Makeup
Celebrities Without Makeup - Google Search

http://www.hereinreality.com/makeup.htm

http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/6411/pic1152af2.jpg

[chattanova]

Celebrities Without Makeup
http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=Celebrities+Without+Makeup&btnG=Search&meta=

http://www.hereinreality.com/makeup.htm

http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/6411/pic1152af2.jpg

ooch some real bad ones here :eek:

Jennifer Lopez
http://img02.picoodle.com/img/img02/9/8/13/f_jlowithoutm_6630ff6.jpg

Christina Ricci
http://img03.picoodle.com/img/img03/9/8/13/f_christinarim_7a3b403.jpg

Avril Lavigne
http://img105.imageshack.us/img105/3364/avrillevinewithoutmakeuly6.jpg

[gordonfreeman]

So, that's how they look like without their make up? No wonder human sheepies want to be like them and say that they are hot and cool. Gah!

Look at Gordon Freeman, he doesn't have make up and he looks like shit, when he fights hordes of Combine soldiers, monsters, and zombies.

Can you compare Johnny Depp, Orlando Bloom, and Keira Knightly?

[pumma]

Some of them are bad (as described in nowhere's post) and some aren't ... It's interesting to see how they are (in real life) when not in movies/photo-shootings/intervievs/on magazine frontpages/etc.

I saw a documentary (years ago) how they manipulate their (body) pictures that go in mass media/press...

[whitelightrabbit]

LOL i needed a laugh! thanks nowhere, you've probably seen this freeman fly article Anna Nicole, Britney, and Mind Control?

...Could it be that what we are witnessing in our top pop stars recently is the result of trauma-based mind-control? Have the Monarch mind-controlled slaves gone wild? Anna Nicole mysteriously dies, Britney shamelessly shaves herself bald, Astronaut Lisa Nowak sets off on a mission of doom in diapers; what is going on!?...
http://freemanarchives.com/


LOL@ britney's new perfume 'believe' (good title)
As for the new scent, the company describes it as, a "confident expression of optimism and individuality. ... Britney's next fragrance is a reflection of her soul. As she shares her beliefs, we reflect on our own." it probably smells like the # 2 she left in the toilet
ROTFL

[father ted]

A good and entertaining post nowhere, you see these things at close hand, but many of us too feel that they are mind controlled slaves, DID's as I like to call them. Although given that, I feel sorry for them and wish that one of them wakes up, just imagine!:eek:

[kblood]

What a lovely post :) I rather like Britney Spears myself. I might even call her a friend. She has had her up and downs like us all though. I see hers as an inspiration to us all ;)

[kblood]

So, that's how they look like without their make up? No wonder human sheepies want to be like them and say that they are hot and cool. Gah!

Look at Gordon Freeman, he doesn't have make up and he looks like shit, when he fights hordes of Combine soldiers, monsters, and zombies.

Can you compare Johnny Depp, Orlando Bloom, and Keira Knightly?

The only thing I can claim that compares these 3 is that they are all good people :) Also they have a very nice language and use it to further their acting quite brilliantly. :D

[limelady]

Welcome to the forum nowhere!!

Wow, we now have our very own 'insider' Hollywood gossip
columnist to give us the scoops!! :D

Thanks for the low-down on Brittney.....I can't help but
feel quite sad for these girls who are being so badly used
and abused.

As for the post of the stars without make-up? Well this is
a wake-up call to all the guys who believe these women
look the way 'ideal' women should look ....now you see they
look just like the rest of us women look first thing in the morning.
The sexy glamour images spewed out by Hollywood are all
an illusion :D:D:D

[aelusis]

Isn't Britney some product of Disney, going all the way back to her 'star search' days with Justin Timberlake? I know Lindsay Lohan was created by Disney with that stupid show of hers and her "musical career". Terrible things happening at Disney, I bet.

[adzboarder]

Look at Gordon Freeman, he doesn't have make up and he looks like shit, when he fights hordes of Combine soldiers, monsters, and zombies.

Can you compare Johnny Depp, Orlando Bloom, and Keira Knightly?

:D LOL - I love HalfLife!

[trumansho]

Isn't Britney some product of Disney, going all the way back to her 'star search' days with Justin Timberlake? I know Lindsay Lohan was created by Disney with that stupid show of hers and her "musical career". Terrible things happening at Disney, I bet.Yes, they programming people at young age,plus hollywood is full of drugs and mind programming. And micky mouse is a freemason wizard anyway.

[nowhere]

I'm surprised how many responses this has got.
That's not even the worst Shitney story.

My friend works at Winston's, a very popular Hollywood lounge.
It's always in gossip columns, raving about who of who was there.
Anyway, she told me about a recent incident that happened about 3 weeks ago. Britney Spears came by the lounge and was hanging out and doing lines of coke. (When you go to celeb hot spots, this is a given and no one there is even phased by the fact that a celeb is doing lines right next to them. Why? Cuz everyone does it, at least those who try to fit the Hollywood party scene. ) Anyway, she was obviously out of it and started dancing on a table, it's NOT a club keep in mind, wearing a bikini top! All of a sudden she ran to the restroom and made the restroom attendant kick all of the people out, so that Britney can have the restroom to herself. 10 minutes later , the restroom attendant needed immediate help with something and grabbed my friend who is the bartender and they rushed to the restroom. As they entered, my friend was shocked by what she saw :

Britney Spears apparently had a VERY loose bowel movement and shit all over herself!! She had crap on her pants and underwear and without even missing a second, she took off her pants and underwear, standing naked from bikini top down, propped her leg up onto the sink and started washing the shit off her bare ass!!

My friend has seen a lot of crazy shit working there with celebrities, but this she had to tell someone. She was so disgusted and she said that seeing Britney like that was the most pathetic sight of her life.

My other friend is a manager of a popular restaurant and has served/ encountered many celebs including Britney , Paris, etc. She said the odd thing is that they are nice and seem normal but there is something missing. She said, "It's like you get this feeling when you talk to them that their minds are not here. They are not aware of where they are, who they are, and what is going on around them. It's like they're empty." She said it had to be from all the drugs but as I know, it's much more. Hearing her say that gave me chills. Cuz that's exactly the vibe I always got.

The most blatant celeb I know, who is In Your face mind controlled ,would have to be Bizzy Bone from Bone Thugs and Harmony. My guy friend is like family with Bizzy and I even spoke to Bizzy on the phone and he was beyond crazy. Literally. It's one thing to be crazy but this was like he was possessed.

Also, while a lot of female celebs are on drugs . Many males, especially rappers, are gay. I have heard of many witnessed bizarre incidents with J-Z, Justin Timberlake, (who a friend of mine grew up with before he made it big and said she always thought he was gay), P.Diddy, 50 cent, and even Bizzy Bone.

The industry is beyond what any new comers can even begin to imagine.
When I was young I wanted to become an actress and I did do some stuff but it's like a force greater than me always kept me from pursuing that path. At least until I had more knowledge. I could never explain it but now I appreciate it.

Seeing the same faces on billboards that I see in person and how they really are is like a slap in the face of how controlled we are. Modeling our life after images of whom we not only think we know, think we are friends with, but also register emotionally with and yet have NEVER met that particular image is in itself beyond crazy.

How controlled we are. But most importantly how controlled they are. They are nothing more than mindless advertisements. Puppets controlled by those who wish to control the rest. No wonder they get paid so much.

[cmdr_sabbathius]

I'm surprised how many responses this has got.
That's not even the worst Shitney story.

My friend works at Winston's, a very popular Hollywood lounge.
It's always in gossip columns, raving about who of who was there.
Anyway, she told me about a recent incident that happened about 3 weeks ago. Britney Spears came by the lounge and was hanging out and doing lines of coke. (When you go to celeb hot spots, this is a given and no one there is even phased by the fact that a celeb is doing lines right next to them. Why? Cuz everyone does it, at least those who try to fit the Hollywood party scene. ) Anyway, she was obviously out of it and started dancing on a table, it's NOT a club keep in mind, wearing a bikini top! All of a sudden she ran to the restroom and made the restroom attendant kick all of the people out, so that Britney can have the restroom to herself. 10 minutes later , the restroom attendant needed immediate help with something and grabbed my friend who is the bartender and they rushed to the restroom. As they entered, my friend was shocked by what she saw :

Britney Spears apparently had a VERY loose bowel movement and shit all over herself!! She had crap on her pants and underwear and without even missing a second, she took off her pants and underwear, standing naked from bikini top down, propped her leg up onto the sink and started washing the shit off her bare ass!!

My friend has seen a lot of crazy shit working there with celebrities, but this she had to tell someone. She was so disgusted and she said that seeing Britney like that was the most pathetic sight of her life.

My other friend is a manager of a popular restaurant and has served/ encountered many celebs including Britney , Paris, etc. She said the odd thing is that they are nice and seem normal but there is something missing. She said, "It's like you get this feeling when you talk to them that their minds are not here. They are not aware of where they are, who they are, and what is going on around them. It's like they're empty." She said it had to be from all the drugs but as I know, it's much more. Hearing her say that gave me chills. Cuz that's exactly the vibe I always got.

The most blatant celeb I know, who is In Your face mind controlled ,would have to be Bizzy Bone from Bone Thugs and Harmony. My guy friend is like family with Bizzy and I even spoke to Bizzy on the phone and he was beyond crazy. Literally. It's one thing to be crazy but this was like he was possessed.

Also, while a lot of female celebs are on drugs . Many males, especially rappers, are gay. I have heard of many witnessed bizarre incidents with J-Z, Justin Timberlake, (who a friend of mine grew up with before he made it big and said she always thought he was gay), P.Diddy, 50 cent, and even Bizzy Bone.

The industry is beyond what any new comers can even begin to imagine.
When I was young I wanted to become an actress and I did do some stuff but it's like a force greater than me always kept me from pursuing that path. At least until I had more knowledge. I could never explain it but now I appreciate it.

Seeing the same faces on billboards that I see in person and how they really are is like a slap in the face of how controlled we are. Modeling our life after images of whom we not only think we know, think we are friends with, but also register emotionally with and yet have NEVER met that particular image is in itself beyond crazy.

How controlled we are. But most importantly how controlled they are. They are nothing more than mindless advertisements. Puppets controlled by those who wish to control the rest. No wonder they get paid so much.

*plays devil's advocate* I know anybody's who's fucked up enough on drugs (esp. cocaine or too much hard liquor) can wind up shitting their pants. The shit happens. It doesn't mean they're mind-controlled.

[amerigirl]

Very interesting, thanks for posting this.

[nowhere]

*plays devil's advocate* I know anybody's who's fucked up enough on drugs (esp. cocaine or too much hard liquor) can wind up shitting their pants. The shit happens. It doesn't mean they're mind-controlled.



I never said it was.

[lydia78]

Really suprised coke can make you shit yourself, knew there was a good reason I dropped it before it became a habit, thought Ketamine (K) was the drug for losing bowel control, heard of many a jockey ( in newmarket) who have lost their guts on a night out on K.......see this just would not happen with weed!!

[lydia78]

What a lovely post :) I rather like Britney Spears myself. I might even call her a friend. She has had her up and downs like us all though. I see hers as an inspiration to us all ;)

Do you know her?? Do feel sorry for anyone who is goes off the rails, but if she pulls her shit together it'll probably make her stronger, but then again she seems abit vacant.....but an inspiration? LOL!!!

[indigo]

Good posts nowhere, keep em coming:D It doesn't surprise me that Britney shat her self with all the drugs. Discusting. She is looking really old and haggard lately. When you look at her eyes they never looks focused, one stays in the middle and one fucks off in the other direction, bit like when you look at alot of coke addicts including Kate Moss etc.

[kblood]

Good posts nowhere, keep em coming:D It doesn't surprise me that Britney shat her self with all the drugs. Discusting. She is looking really old and haggard lately. When you look at her eyes they never looks focused, one stays in the middle and one fucks off in the other direction, bit like when you look at alot of coke addicts including Kate Moss etc.

Somtimes my eyes arent looking straight either... see has met the messiah and therefore has a hard time coping with it. Seems to be the reason for many, when they get a bit lost, and still needs a purpose.

[megafish33]

hey nowhere... how do such things make you feel? I find it incredibly sad. Mind control? Sure. The massive amounts of drugs done in that town is outstanding though, really... You can find coke everywhere you look, especially if you're part of the "scene." I've never spent much time being around "celebrities" but what I did see was really... like you mentioned, off, very off. I'm in norcal now but I went back south to visit a friend a while back, only to hear cokehead davis screaming "firecrotch" and paris laughing like a hyena. :rolleyes: Glad to see this country's "war on drugs" is going well. :rolleyes:

Interesting (but SAD :( ) story about spears. She is really owned, in more ways than one.

[cheesedanish]

This bitch dropped a #2 and didn't flush the toilet !!!!!!!!

Hi Nowhere ... thanks for sharing with us .......



seriously I wonder how they would 'Mind Control' Britney - the way I see
it - she is living an 'abnormal' life - you must get a bit screwed up!
She is very talented but I think the papparazzi following you around
must be a hectic way to live. Anyway everyone is feeding the Fame
Machine - even me by answering this post...

[infinitetruth]

ooch some real bad ones here :eek:

Jennifer Lopez
http://img02.picoodle.com/img/img02/9/8/13/f_jlowithoutm_6630ff6.jpg

Christina Ricci
http://img03.picoodle.com/img/img03/9/8/13/f_christinarim_7a3b403.jpg

Avril Lavigne
http://img105.imageshack.us/img105/3364/avrillevinewithoutmakeuly6.jpg

On the subject of women without makeup check out these short vids:

Extreme (Photoshop) Makeover - YouTube

The music really gets me - its like 'yup you've been fooled all these years' LOL

How about this one:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1TLLqp1wgc

[johnabelardo]

She was at the toilet 3 times?
Have you considered that maybe she has a UTI or bladder problems?
It is possible.
Maybe she has an eating disorder and was purging.
Maybe she has 'roids and was applying medication.
Maybe she was LITERALLY powdering her nose.
Maybe she had the runs.

And you can say "Maybe the Dodgers will come back to Brooklyn" in reply to the maybes above, but things aren't always as they seem. Which, I belive, is rather the point of this website.

Love J

[synergy777]

here eyes in that bald head shot, look evil/tapped, she's just lost the plot. the worse thing is that she has kids.without the illusion of adobe, make up artists, she is just a regular girl, who can't deal with collpase of her career, drop in acclaim. its the fall from grace. i pity her, she has found out she is surrounded by fairweather friends, fake lovers etc, her parents should step in, where are they?

[johnabelardo]

Britney Spears apparently had a VERY loose bowel movement and shit all over herself!! She had crap on her pants and underwear and without even missing a second, she took off her pants and underwear, standing naked from bikini top down, propped her leg up onto the sink and started washing the shit off her bare ass!!

.

like I said.

[synergy777]

that avril looks like drag, lol

[synergy777]

see weed makes you hungry, its all good.

[infinitetruth]

that avril looks like drag, lol

She don't look like a drag, she looks normal, average. We're so used to seeing photoshopped faces we don't know real beauty anymore.

[indigo]

that avril looks like drag, lolShe has a kurt kobain look about her in that pic

[lydia78]

see weed makes you hungry, its all good.

I second that syn, and third it...lol:)

[kblood]

Do you know her?? Do feel sorry for anyone who is goes off the rails, but if she pulls her shit together it'll probably make her stronger, but then again she seems abit vacant.....but an inspiration? LOL!!!

Yup, I have met her a few times. She seems to have some traumas to deal with, all the scandals, her career as a popstar on the stake and problems getting a good marriage or something like that. She is also loosing contact with her parents or mother at least. She seems to have alot of problems "finding" herself.

I once met Justin Timberlake in Copenhagen, and told him to call her. For some reason I could even read about this in some gossip news recently :confused: Sure doesnt take much for the journalists to make a note of it.
Apparantly these popstars and other celebrities just doesnt call each other even though they could know quite easily about how they are doing. Since Britney seems to be constantly travelling around and not living in one area for more than a few years in a row, I guess it doesnt make it any easier for her.

My advice to her would be to try and settle down somewhere she likes, and then getting some solid friends. Hopefully get old friendships back on track, and then maybe get back to that popstar career. Also she should probably be attending to her kids more than she is. Just because she is loaded with money, still should not give her the priveledge to not having to raise her own children. Being male, I guess I might be some male chauvinism involved :rolleyes:

I do hope she spends alot of time with her children though. It is two she has now, isnt it?

[whitelightrabbit]

She don't look like a drag, she looks normal, average. We're so used to seeing photoshopped faces we don't know real beauty anymore.

totally... j lo looks normal too.

[nickatnoon61]

Isn't Britney some product of Disney, going all the way back to her 'star search' days with Justin Timberlake? I know Lindsay Lohan was created by Disney with that stupid show of hers and her "musical career". Terrible things happening at Disney, I bet. Yes she is a "product"! Good choice of words too. Read the link.........


http://www.thewatcherfiles.com/bloodlines/disney.htm

[nickatnoon61]

I'm surprised how many responses this has got.
That's not even the worst Shitney story.

My friend works at Winston's, a very popular Hollywood lounge.
It's always in gossip columns, raving about who of who was there.
Anyway, she told me about a recent incident that happened about 3 weeks ago. Britney Spears came by the lounge and was hanging out and doing lines of coke. (When you go to celeb hot spots, this is a given and no one there is even phased by the fact that a celeb is doing lines right next to them. Why? Cuz everyone does it, at least those who try to fit the Hollywood party scene. ) Anyway, she was obviously out of it and started dancing on a table, it's NOT a club keep in mind, wearing a bikini top! All of a sudden she ran to the restroom and made the restroom attendant kick all of the people out, so that Britney can have the restroom to herself. 10 minutes later , the restroom attendant needed immediate help with something and grabbed my friend who is the bartender and they rushed to the restroom. As they entered, my friend was shocked by what she saw :

Britney Spears apparently had a VERY loose bowel movement and shit all over herself!! She had crap on her pants and underwear and without even missing a second, she took off her pants and underwear, standing naked from bikini top down, propped her leg up onto the sink and started washing the shit off her bare ass!!

My friend has seen a lot of crazy shit working there with celebrities, but this she had to tell someone. She was so disgusted and she said that seeing Britney like that was the most pathetic sight of her life.

My other friend is a manager of a popular restaurant and has served/ encountered many celebs including Britney , Paris, etc. She said the odd thing is that they are nice and seem normal but there is something missing. She said, "It's like you get this feeling when you talk to them that their minds are not here. They are not aware of where they are, who they are, and what is going on around them. It's like they're empty." She said it had to be from all the drugs but as I know, it's much more. Hearing her say that gave me chills. Cuz that's exactly the vibe I always got.

The most blatant celeb I know, who is In Your face mind controlled ,would have to be Bizzy Bone from Bone Thugs and Harmony. My guy friend is like family with Bizzy and I even spoke to Bizzy on the phone and he was beyond crazy. Literally. It's one thing to be crazy but this was like he was possessed.

Also, while a lot of female celebs are on drugs . Many males, especially rappers, are gay. I have heard of many witnessed bizarre incidents with J-Z, Justin Timberlake, (who a friend of mine grew up with before he made it big and said she always thought he was gay), P.Diddy, 50 cent, and even Bizzy Bone.

The industry is beyond what any new comers can even begin to imagine.
When I was young I wanted to become an actress and I did do some stuff but it's like a force greater than me always kept me from pursuing that path. At least until I had more knowledge. I could never explain it but now I appreciate it.

Seeing the same faces on billboards that I see in person and how they really are is like a slap in the face of how controlled we are. Modeling our life after images of whom we not only think we know, think we are friends with, but also register emotionally with and yet have NEVER met that particular image is in itself beyond crazy.

How controlled we are. But most importantly how controlled they are. They are nothing more than mindless advertisements. Puppets controlled by those who wish to control the rest. No wonder they get paid so much.

HI NW, I have read a fair bit on MK Ultra(Brice Taylor's book, "Trance", by Cathy O'Brien, etc.)What you describe is exactly what I believe to be true! The problem is, most of my peers think I AM NUTS!!! I met a restauranteer in Toronto,years ago, who spent a short time managing/cooking in fancy Hollyweird eateries. He said he had to get out while he still had his virginity. All the male "stars":cool: wanted to fuck him!!! :eek:I posted the Disney Bloodline, have a boo.

[nickatnoon61]

*plays devil's advocate* I know anybody's who's fucked up enough on drugs (esp. cocaine or too much hard liquor) can wind up shitting their pants. The shit happens. It doesn't mean they're mind-controlled.

Do you know anything about mind-control?:confused: Have you done any research?:confused: Or r u just a YWPOD????:eek:

[nickatnoon61]

Hi Nowhere ... thanks for sharing with us .......



seriously I wonder how they would 'Mind Control' Britney - the way I see
it - she is living an 'abnormal' life - you must get a bit screwed up!
She is very talented but I think the papparazzi following you around
must be a hectic way to live. Anyway everyone is feeding the Fame
Machine - even me by answering this post...

NOWHERE IS BURSTING A FEW BUBBLES, AROUND HERE, I CAN SEE!!!:eek: Those who know nothing about MK Ultra trauma based, programming are still living in Fantasyland, and are in for a HUGE wake up call! Instead of playing mindless video games,watching porn, and listening to shit "music", start using your computer as a tool to learn with,instead of a toy!!!

[nickatnoon61]

She was at the toilet 3 times?
Have you considered that maybe she has a UTI or bladder problems?
It is possible.
Maybe she has an eating disorder and was purging.
Maybe she has 'roids and was applying medication.
Maybe she was LITERALLY powdering her nose.
Maybe she had the runs.

And you can say "Maybe the Dodgers will come back to Brooklyn" in reply to the maybes above, but things aren't always as they seem. Which, I belive, is rather the point of this website.

Love J

John, things are mostly the EXACT opposite of what they seem!!!:eek:

[whitelightrabbit]

Quote:
Originally Posted by cmdr_sabbathius View Post
*plays devil's advocate* I know anybody's who's fucked up enough on drugs (esp. cocaine or too much hard liquor) can wind up shitting their pants. The shit happens. It doesn't mean they're mind-controlled.

Do you know anything about mind-control?:confused: Have you done any research?:confused: Or r u just a YWPOD????:eek:

its true, druggies do shit their pants but there is still tons of evidence that britney is under mind control, IMO both mind control and fucked up on drugs and alchohol for easy handling.

[freespark]

Hey-

I live in Hollywood and grew up with the whole celebrity scene so it's funny when people think that "celebrities" are cool. Ugh, there are such losers.
Just so you all know they are all on blowand a whole lotta other shit.

Anyway, I have many Lindsey, Nicole, Paris, Britney, Hollywood in general inside trash and they are all, believe me, on blow and beyond mind controlled puppets.

So anyway, yesterday at about 12:30 am - BRITNEY SPEARS ,her Body Guard plus 2 gay white friends/ employees? came to eat at the Restaurant I hostess at. She was so gross. She took like 3 bathroom trips 10 min. each, either to do blow which I found none, so really it was just to cause a speculation. She ordered food and didn't touch a bit of it. My friend who was was the waitress asked her what she wanted to drink. She said champagne so my friend offered her a choice between two of our best and Britney says...'Okay!' My friend was like okay what? Which one do you want? So Britney completely picks something else and says House Chardonnay! Anyway she drank half a glass then stuck the glass in my friends face and said more please!!!!
My friend said she was on drugs and beyond stupid. "No way this bitch can even spell her name." I was like... or more like MIND Controlled. She than asked for a to go cup for the booze! And she only tipped my friend a regular lousy 15%. Anyway she left and like 100 photographers/ bystanders took pictures of her. OH!!
and the best part . . . she went to the restroom for like 10 min. before she left and I went in after her to fix my hair. I SWEAR TO GOD > > >
This bitch dropped a #2 and didn't flush the toilet !!!!!!!!

Anyway, I was interviewed by stupid magazines today and this will probably come out in the next issue of US Weekly with my name.

The whole time I was like...WHO CARES??!!.
I encounter celebrities all the time, and I know that they are controlled puppets to drag attention away from big issues. Britney couldn't even talk , she was so out of it! 'They' try to blame her and Lindsey as to being on drugs for their behaviors ,which they are, but it's also all the mind control. They literally look like clueless , drugged, puppies when you see them.

It's so blatant to me that they are puppets, I wish others could see that.
I'm glad I grew up around this to see Hollywood for what it really is.
It's soooo sad that people look up to these losers for validation to their own lives.

Hi nowhere,

Great post. Cool to hear it right from the horses mouth so to speak. You are right...95% of the 'hollywood' types are mind controlled puppets toeing the line and following the 'script' of the agenda.

[_underscore_]

She don't look like a drag, she looks normal, average. We're so used to seeing photoshopped faces we don't know real beauty anymore.


This is not entirely true of average 'Joe American' . _underscore_ does not care for chicks with a bunch chemicals plastered on their faces and fake tan/hair color. _underscores_ wife has never dyed her hair and she doesn't wear make up (looks better without).

(It's the beauty of virtue that matters most.)

[nowhere]

HI NW, I have read a fair bit on MK Ultra(Brice Taylor's book, "Trance", by Cathy O'Brien, etc.)What you describe is exactly what I believe to be true! The problem is, most of my peers think I AM NUTS!!! I met a restauranteer in Toronto,years ago, who spent a short time managing/cooking in fancy Hollyweird eateries. He said he had to get out while he still had his virginity. All the male "stars":cool: wanted to fuck him!!! :eek:I posted the Disney Bloodline, have a boo.



Thanks for the article. I'm glad you see further into this as well.

[kblood]

I think this thread is just turning into gossip. Guess that is how it is when it is about celebrities. And gossip doesnt mean that it is lies, just that it is talking about someone that isnt here to defend him or her - self.

[father ted]

Hey nowhere, did you mention that 50 cent and justin timberlake are gay? I just read that they have teamed up for "aya technology", whatever that is, an album I suppose. Good for them, what a nice couple they make.

[kblood]

Hey nowhere, did you mention that 50 cent and justin timberlake are gay? I just read that they have teamed up for "aya technology", whatever that is, an album I suppose. Good for them, what a nice couple they make.

lol... speaking of gossip :) Nice one. I guess they might both go both ways.

I hope something good comes out of whatever they might be doing together ;)

[cheesedanish]

NOWHERE IS BURSTING A FEW BUBBLES, AROUND HERE, I CAN SEE!!!:eek: Those who know nothing about MK Ultra trauma based, programming are still living in Fantasyland, and are in for a HUGE wake up call! Instead of playing mindless video games,watching porn, and listening to shit "music", start using your computer as a tool to learn with,instead of a toy!!!

Thanks Nickatnoon - I am here to learn - so thanks will look up more on
Mk Ultra and wise up!
(if you talking about me by the way I don't
spend time on mindless activities you mention above - maybe its
just a generalization) ;)

[cheesedanish]

OMG .. I am watching the Freeman video - Anna Nicole Britney & Mind Control video (http://thefreemanperspective.blogspot.com/)
... I had no idea .... You don't know that you don't know! :eek:

Wow ! This all makes sense now !!

This is fascinating and scary! Now I understand the whole
Nipplegate and the Madonna & Britney kiss! Gee whiz!!

[nickatnoon61]

I think this thread is just turning into gossip. Guess that is how it is when it is about celebrities. And gossip doesnt mean that it is lies, just that it is talking about someone that isnt here to defend him or her - self.

TRANSLATION: I JERK OFF TO BRITNEY AND YOU JUST RUINED MY FANTASY!!!!:eek:

[nickatnoon61]

Thanks Nickatnoon - I am here to learn - so thanks will look up more on
Mk Ultra and wise up!
(if you talking about me by the way I don't
spend time on mindless activities you mention above - maybe its
just a generalization) ;)

Thanx CD, yes it is a GENERALIZATION, for others to think about. You, being on this forum, makes you one of the aware/awake ones!:)

[nickatnoon61]

OMG .. I am watching the Freeman video - Anna Nicole Britney & Mind Control video (http://thefreemanperspective.blogspot.com/)
... I had no idea .... You don't know that you don't know! :eek:

Wow ! This all makes sense now !!

This is fascinating and scary! Now I understand the whole
Nipplegate and the Madonna & Britney kiss! Gee whiz!!

CD, JUST GOT IT!!!!!;) This is the 1st step out of the Illusion!!!:)

[indigo]

hmm, I have to say from experience, that drugs make you shit yourself if you take too much, so I don't believe in mind controlled celebs:o And i also don't think that exscuse should be made for them. I just think they are rich junkies. Nothing more, nothing less.

[nickatnoon61]

Quote:
Originally Posted by cmdr_sabbathius View Post
*plays devil's advocate* I know anybody's who's fucked up enough on drugs (esp. cocaine or too much hard liquor) can wind up shitting their pants. The shit happens. It doesn't mean they're mind-controlled.



its true, druggies do shit their pants but there is still tons of evidence that britney is under mind control, IMO both mind control and fucked up on drugs and alchohol for easy handling.

You got it Wabbit.:p GWB, Cheney, and all the rest are drug addicts, for the same CONTROL reasons.

[nickatnoon61]

hmm, I have to say from experience, that drugs make you shit yourself if you take too much, so I don't believe in mind controlled celebs:o And i also don't think that exscuse should be made for them. I just think they are rich junkies. Nothing more, nothing less.

WOW, what a revelation,neila!:eek: May I translate your post?
" I have heard of mind-control, but I am too lazy, OR STONED, to do any of my own research, or even consider it exists!"


Thanx for contributing,Neila! You may go back to sleep now!:eek:

[indigo]

You got it Wabbit.:p GWB, Cheney, and all the rest are drug addicts, for the same CONTROL reasons.No. Just cos they cant cotrol their bowels, doest mean they are mind controlled:rolleyes: Wake up nikatoon61

[nickatnoon61]

No. Just cos they cant cotrol their bowels, doest mean they are mind controlled:rolleyes:

Neila DUHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!:eek:

[indigo]

Neila DUHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!:eek:I have read about mind control and the like, Basically most mind control comes from hypnotherapy. Now you can't tell me Britney and the junkies like her have been programmed to act this way and take drugs. Drugs are part and parcel of being famous in hollywood, Or anywhere for that matter. I would say Brits drug intake has more to do with an addictive personality, and not being able to say no.

[nickatnoon61]

I have read about mind control and the like, Basically most mind control comes from hypnotherapy. Now you can't tell me Britney and the junkies like her have been programmed to act this way and take drugs. Drugs are part and parcel of being famous in hollywood, Or anywhere for that matter. I would say Brits drug intake has more to do with an addictive personality, and not being able to say no.

neila, YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT MIND-CONTROL, my friend!!! I can tell by your reply! I am talking about trauma-based MK Ultra, that starts BEFORE one is born!!! I have been studying this for 8 years, since I read "Tranceformation of America". I have a friend who is an expert, he is a hynotist and a friend of David Icke's. I have been to his seminars. I am talking about Lee Harvey Oswald,Sirhan Sirhan, John Hinckley and the Gook who went on the shooting spree at WVU, in Blacksburg,VA. By coincidence there happens to be a a major underground Project Monarch programming center there. (Blacksburg,VA)These assassins are real-life Manchurian Candidates! Google the key words I have used and read on.

[indigo]

neila, YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT MIND-CONTROL, my friend!!! I can tell by your reply! I am talking about trauma-based MK Ultra, that starts BEFORE one is born!!! I have been studying this for 8 years, since I read "Tranceformation of America". I have a friend who is an expert, he is a hynotist and a friend of David Icke's. I have been to his seminars. I am talking about Lee Harvey Oswald,Sirhan Sirhan, John Hinckley and the Gook who went on the shooting spree at WVU, in Blacksburg,VA. By coincidence there happens to be a a major underground Project Monarch programming center there. (Blacksburg,VA)These assassins are real-life Manchurian Candidates! Google the key words I have used and read on.Yeah I too know alot about mind control, What about Driver Henry Paul? .....Anyway, seeing as you know as much as I, can you honestly say that Britney Spears the drug addict, is mind controlled?......Nah, didn't think so;)

[nickatnoon61]

Yeah I too know alot about mind control, What about Driver Henry Paul? .....Anyway, seeing as you know as much as I, can you honestly say that Britney Spears the drug addict, is mind controlled?......Nah, didn't think so;)

OK neila...did u take your medication today????:eek:

[eternal_spirit]

These celebrities Brittany and the likes are groomed and programmed to be who and what they are. But It's also people(fans etc) being mind controlled by the mind controlled celebrities, which also gives them their celebrity status.

Some of those pics with make up and without it are pretty bad. I think they're stoned, hungover, having a bad time emotionally or real tired to look so bad, all these things can change the way you look.

Even good looking people can look ugly at times. If you think ( and others think you're good looking) Try looking in the mirror and taking some pics of yourself, when you're hungover, stoned and real tired and compare with the celebs.

If you live or have ever lived with a good looking person you would know that at times they can look bad too. So mostly it's not just photo shop and make up.

[nickatnoon61]

These celebrities Brittany and the likes are groomed and programmed to be who and what they are. But It's also people(fans etc) being mind controlled by the mind controlled celebrities, which also gives them their celebrity status.

Some of those pics with make up and without it are pretty bad. I think they're stoned, hungover, having a bad time emotionally or real tired to look so bad, all these things can change the way you look.

Even good looking people can look ugly at times. If you think ( and others think you're good looking) Try looking in the mirror and taking some pics of yourself, when you're hungover, stoned and real tired and compare with the celebs.

If you live or have ever lived with a good looking person you would know that at times they can look bad too. So mostly it's not just photo shop and make up.

Hey ES, I am extremely good lookin, but even I can scare myself some mornings!!!:eek: Kinda like that monkey you PMed me, but the fur is on my tongue instead!!!:D

[nickatnoon61]

OK neila...did u take your medication today????:eek:

neila, take a boo at this....http://www.illuminati-news.com/art-and-mc/field-of-art.htm

[indigo]

neila, take a boo at this....http://www.illuminati-news.com/art-and-mc/field-of-art.htmI have had a quick look, but I just can't see the purpose. What would be the point? I jsut don't get it. It's just drugs. Theye are all to available to the likes of Britney and co. The drugs control their minds. Are you saying that if they didnt take drugs(because they do have a choice) they would be programmed to act and behave in the way they do? Look at drug addicts in general... They are all the fucking same, except some have more money and are photographed behaving like twats. And obviously, the more money you have, the more drugs you will take and the more you get addicted and the more you act like a complete twat.

And yes I have taken my medication:D

[kblood]

TRANSLATION: I JERK OFF TO BRITNEY AND YOU JUST RUINED MY FANTASY!!!!:eek:
LoL :) Not really, but I do know her and some of her ex-boyfriends. I try to keep an eye out for her. I just dont like it when people gossip about someone they do not even know.

Gossip makes the world go around though, and all advertisement is good I guess. As long as people bother to gossip about Britney, her chances of making a comeback is all the better as I see it. And Britney gossip sure seem like some of the most popular there is these days. I just try not to add to it. I have gossiped about people I know that are kinda famous, and I just know I do not like to do something against others that I would not want done against me. Sometimes I do try to hard to be a decent person though, and end up failing miserably, without even noticing untill I look back weeks after :o

Ignore my ranting :) I still like some of her songs, and I do hope she will begin careing about what people think of her again. Does not seem high on her agenda. Maybe she is trying to act natural, or maybe she wants to have a "normal" popstar life :rolleyes: If she seems to get her life back on track, I might say hi to her again.

[indigo]

I hope her sister doesn't go the same way. My kids watch her on Zoe 101:D, she is very pretty and hopefully will help Britney with her problems, but if Brit has an addictive personality, then her sister probably does too. I believe it is genetic.

[nickatnoon61]

I have had a quick look, but I just can't see the purpose. What would be the point? I jsut don't get it. It's just drugs. Theye are all to available to the likes of Britney and co. The drugs control their minds. Are you saying that if they didnt take drugs(because they do have a choice) they would be programmed to act and behave in the way they do? Look at drug addicts in general... They are all the fucking same, except some have more money and are photographed behaving like twats. And obviously, the more money you have, the more drugs you will take and the more you get addicted and the more you act like a complete twat.

And yes I have taken my medication:D
neila said:

"I have had a quick look, but I just can't see the purpose. What would be the point? I jsut don't get it."
This comment says it all!!!!! YOU JUST DON'T GET IT!!!! You refuse to look at it!

NEILA,YOU AND KBLOOD are birds of a feather, living in Fantasyland. You believe the Illusion handed to you, on a silver platter, by the Controllers, to be real! You refuse to look at anything that does not go along with your warped belief systems! I wonder what you are doing on this forum, as you are both out to lunch, when it comes to this subject, at least? Are you here to learn, or just propagate, and churn out the pablum of Hollyweird? Your minds are no longer your own,obviously. But that is the whole agenda, isn't it? Don't worry, you will have lots of company and other drones to comfort you, and make sure you do not break out of the herd! You think they are your friends, but they are living in fear, also! Nothing short of a spiritual awakening will bring you out of your hypnotized trances.

[indigo]

neila said:

"I have had a quick look, but I just can't see the purpose. What would be the point? I jsut don't get it."
This comment says it all!!!!! YOU JUST DON'T GET IT!!!! You refuse to look at it!

NEILA,YOU AND KBLOOD are birds of a feather, living in Fantasyland. You believe the Illusion handed to you, on a silver platter, by the Controllers, to be real! You refuse to look at anything that does not go along with your warped belief systems! I wonder what you are doing on this forum, as you are both out to lunch, when it comes to this subject, at least? Are you here to learn, or just propagate, and churn out the pablum of Hollyweird? Your minds are no longer your own,obviously. But that is the whole agenda, isn't it? Don't worry, you will have lots of company and other drones to comfort you, and make sure you do not break out of the herd! You think they are your friends, but they are living in fear, also! Nothing short of a spiritual awakening will bring you out of your hypnotized trances.Oh get over yourself nickatoon61:D

Can you answer my question please.... What is the purpose of Britney being mind controlled? If you can come up with a decent answer, then I might be prepared to listen. You, what are your thoughts? Why Britney?

[kblood]

She might have gotten in contact with Illuminati some way after the MTV concert where she had a show with Christina Anguilare and Madonna. Seems she might have gotten a bit confused about what is going on in the world. Seems to me that was quite a turning point for her. Seemed to be her peak as I see it.

Mostly guesses though.

[nickatnoon61]

Oh get over yourself nickatoon61:D

Can you answer my question please.... What is the purpose of Britney being mind controlled? If you can come up with a decent answer, then I might be prepared to listen. You, what are your thoughts? Why Britney?

neila don't waste my time. This is way over your programmed little brain!!!You won't look at what I already put in front of you !.You are not ready to wake up yet! Go back to sleep!!!! You are programming your kids with the same horseshit, you believe in ! That is child abuse!!! You are akin to a lung cancer patient lying in the hospital rotting away, but still requires proof,that smoking causes cancer!

[indigo]

neila don't waste my time. This is way over your programmed little brain!!!You won't look at what I already put in front of you !.You are not ready to wake up yet! Go back to sleep!!!! You are programming your kids with the same horseshit, you believe in ! That is child abuse!!! You are akin to a lung cancer patient lying in the hospital rotting away, but still requires proof,that smoking causes cancer!WTF:confused:

Actually, I have been telling my kids the way I really think it is. Forget Britney Bloody Spears:mad: It ain't easy telling other people about what really goes on in the world when they look at you as if you are fucking freak and tell you you are mad (when i say you I mean in general) I have been told to stop poisoning my kids brains. Kids will grow in to adults and find things out their own way. It would actually be a form of abuse to tell them what actually does go on. Then they can go to school and be called god knows what and be bullied for having different beliefs. I would hate to find all this stuff out at such a young age. I would have gone fucking mental. I would rather they carry on knowing what they think is right. If they wanna believe in santa then who gives a stuff. (not that santa has anytrhing to do with it, im just using that as an example:cool:)

I have read about mind control and believe it happens in certain cases. And I do believe certain stars have been controlled in some way. Now I will read your link properly.

[nickatnoon61]

She might have gotten in contact with Illuminati some way after the MTV concert where she had a show with Christina Anguilare and Madonna. Seems she might have gotten a bit confused about what is going on in the world. Seems to me that was quite a turning point for her. Seemed to be her peak as I see it.

Mostly guesses though.


kblood , Christina Anguilare and Madonna, esp. Madonna is a well-known mind-control victim, even in mainstream circles! I even saw on the idiot box, a program about a talent agency for Latino stars, where there is a lot of sexual abuse going on. Of course they only show the tip of the iceberg, to raise their ratings!I have been sniffin' around this subject for a long time, and I am totally convinced of the reality of MK Ultra and Project Monarch. Read Tranceformation of America by Cathy O'Brien if you really want a jolt and wakeup call!!!! There are lots of links for free on the net.Once one is gifted with some truths, it is easier to see the "trends" and connections. It is like a spider web, all connected together.

[lydia78]

Oh get over yourself nickatoon61:D

Can you answer my question please.... What is the purpose of Britney being mind controlled? If you can come up with a decent answer, then I might be prepared to listen. You, what are your thoughts? Why Britney?

Britney spears has influenced a great deal of the younger generation who aspire to be like her.....along with all the other consumer egocentric puppets like the hiltons, the lohans etc......they're influence can be damaging, as children we imitate what we believe to be the 'happening thing' at the time....it's called popular culture....check out the rap scene, the drug scene, the consumerism and image that all this is acqainted with and have a look at the reflection of it in society.

There is a correlation.

It's not a new concept, bandura already demonstrated this with the damaging effects tv has on children's behaviour.

Keep an open mind on this, as mind control is much easier and subtle then you expect!!

[nickatnoon61]

WTF:confused:

Actually, I have been telling my kids the way I really think it is. Forget Britney Bloody Spears:mad: It ain't easy telling other people about what really goes on in the world when they look at you as if you are fucking freak and tell you you are mad (when i say you I mean in general) I have been told to stop poisoning my kids brains. Kids will grow in to adults and find things out their own way. It would actually be a form of abuse to tell them what actually does go on. Then they can go to school and be called god knows what and be bullied for having different beliefs. I would hate to find all this stuff out at such a young age. I would have gone fucking mental. I would rather they carry on knowing what they think is right. If they wanna believe in santa then who gives a stuff. (not that santa has anytrhing to do with it, im just using that as an example:cool:)

I have read about mind control and believe it happens in certain cases. And I do believe certain stars have been controlled in some way. Now I will read your link properly.
You know, after reading this post from you, you sound like you are breaking out of your eggshell, but are too afraid of what other drones think of you. If you want your kids to grow up in worse slavery than you, keep on being a chicken, and living in fear. There is NO savior or superhero who is going to do it for us!
I have dumped my drone friends and family. Their "reality" is not what I want my reality to be. Now I have aware friends whom I can discuss anything with and be myself with. That is more important to me than living in fear of what these nitwits think of me! They drag you down to their levels! Speaking of nitwits, my ex, with the help of the satanic criminal courts, managed to steal my daughter from me 14 years ago. I was teaching my daughter "alternative" lifestyles, and vegetarianism. The bitch wouldn't stand for that, and as soon as I lost visitation, my daughter starting getting sick. You need to register and aquire a licence to drive, but anyone is allowed to reproduce!!!! That is the biggest tragedy! You said "I have read about mind control and believe it happens in certain cases." Well it is quite evident you have not researched the subject, or you don't really want to know the truth about the "entertainment" industry! BECAUSE, ALL OF THE "CELEBRITIES" ARE "MONARCHS", either programers or programees, or both . IT'S WAKE UP TIME ,neila!!!! Here is another link. http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7461738120783343519

[kblood]

I agree a bit with Niela. People will call you freak, crazy or even threaten you when saying the things that seems impossible to believe.

I believe it probably is something to take great care with talking about. Your kids might become outcasts in school knowing about these things, and maybe talking about them as well. I know I did. Hard to understand me when I talk about nothing is random, and that then also means everything is then meant to be, and therefore we cannot really do anything right or wrong, that cannot be changed later. It then all ends up working like a spiral. We might be spinning around with it or go against it, but we will always stay in the spiral, and everything will be good in the end, dark in the beginning and open for us all.

Freedom is seeing that we are as free as we want to be. It is hard to comprehend, and difficult to understand. When it becomes knowledge though, and isnt forgotten, it seems we are probably capable of making our wildest dreams come true :)

Look at Britney Spears. She made the dream of her life come true, and I believe she has now seen more of the world than she ever expected to see. I believe her to be disillusioned. One of the worst states we can be in. It is a feeling of hopelessnes, and meaninglessness.... I hope those two partly madeup words are understandable ;)

Seeing Britney as I do, I still hope for her to find good reasons for her to become happy again. Like looking out for her children, or going to visit Britney Camp and all the orphans she has helped to a better life. I know she was a person of high hopes and good intentions once, but life hit her hard, and she didnt bounce back up.

I feel sympathy for her, but I know that is not really going to help her. I hate having others sympathy on me. Sympathy is probably a good feeling, but usually doesnt make anything better.

Hmm, always get a bit down thinking about her. I do believe Britney doesnt fear the world anymore, but that doesnt make her love being alive. I wonder what it will take for her to do so again?

[kblood]

And please, do not come up with more crap about her being mind controlled. That is probably the whole reason her life took the turn it did. That amongst other things. You can call me mindcontrolled all you want, that doesnt stop me from fighting back whenever I find those that try to control me ;) Quite a few have regretted trying so far. All mindcontrol can be backtracked and countered. This makes me kind of difficult to mindcontrol :)

If you did not notice it yet Nick, Britney is not easy to mindcontrol either, but she has lost her purpose as I see it. She needs to find a new one to fill the emptyness in her soul.

[jesus disciple]

I think this thread is just turning into gossip. Guess that is how it is when it is about celebrities. And gossip doesnt mean that it is lies, just that it is talking about someone that isnt here to defend him or her - self.

Agreed but...
Turning into gossip?
Started out that way imo.
Some random person comes onto the forum
Saying they saw Britney do this and that
And everyone seemingly believes it without any qualms whatsoever.
Who's more mindcontrolled, I wonder?

[lydia78]

do you remember this?

YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.

Maybe it's just plain stupidity on her part but she is conditioned into the fame game which is brainwashing in itself.

[jesus disciple]

do you remember this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QK1RRrwcbW0

Maybe it's just plain stupidity on her part but she is conditioned into the fame game which is brainwashing in itself.

Errr... yeah!
Definitive proof of Britney's being MK'd at last. :rolleyes:
Interview any American citizen and they would probably say
Exactly the same thing.
Does this signifiy Mind Kontrolle?
Or just plain ignorance?

[kblood]

Hehe. I didnt know she ever made a comment like that. That was back when she still believed USA to be a country of love and peacekeeping though ;)

I cannot say she doesnt still believe that, but I just dont think so. Calling this mind control though? At that point, I do not believe that she had been mind controlled anymore than any other american. I usually try to show support for my country and its leaders as well, just to keep the spirits high, if for nothing else.

[lydia78]

Errr... yeah!
Definitive proof of Britney's being MK'd at last. :rolleyes:
Interview any American citizen and they would probably say
Exactly the same thing.
Does this signifiy Mind Kontrolle?
Or just plain ignorance?

I'd say it's the american way of patroitism a conditioning of pride and

nationalism

by promoting her blind faith in old bush she demonstrates the lack

of her own mind her...she doesn't think politics, anyone can see that but she

was probably told to say it by her team.. however it's all specualtion at the

end of the day, my opinion is my own i don't expect you to agree with me.

Whatever's going on i'd love to see her and all the others turn their shit

around by waking up!!

[nickatnoon61]

And please, do not come up with more crap about her being mind controlled. That is probably the whole reason her life took the turn it did. That amongst other things. You can call me mindcontrolled all you want, that doesnt stop me from fighting back whenever I find those that try to control me ;) Quite a few have regretted trying so far. All mindcontrol can be backtracked and countered. This makes me kind of difficult to mindcontrol :)

If you did not notice it yet Nick, Britney is not easy to mindcontrol either, but she has lost her purpose as I see it. She needs to find a new one to fill the emptyness in her soul.

kblood you are CLUELESS pal. YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHAT I AM TALKING ABOUT, AND YOU OBVIOUSLY ARE TOO LAZY OR CONDITIONED TO READ THE LINKS BEFORE YOU. YOUR OPINION OF SOMETHING YOU HAVE NO IDEA ABOUT IS OBVIOUSLY WORTHLESS! I AM NOT SAYING THIS OUT OF ANGER. IT IS AN OBSERVATION. YOU ARE ON THE DAVID ICKE FORUM. IF YOU READ HIS BOOKS YOU WOULD OBVIOUSLY KNOW WHAT I AM TALKING ABOUT. IF ICKE WAS A CHICKENSHIT COWARD LIKE MOST PEOPLE, HE WOULD NEVER HAVE WRITTEN 1 BOOK, LET ALONE 15-16 BOOKS. I AM TALKING ABOUT A SUBJECT THAT IS MORE HORRIFYING THAN SRA AND REPTILIANS WILL EVER BE!!! LUCKILY OTHERS MAY READ THIS , AND THE LINKS PROVIDED AND CATCH ON. YOU DO SUCH DISSERVICE TO PEOPLE WHO HAVE RISKED THEIR LIVES TO GET THIS IMPORTANT MATERIAL OUT THERE! BUT ,LIKE THE PROGRAMMERS SAID TO CATHY O'BRIEN. "EVEN IF YOU ESCAPED, NO ONE WILL BELIEVE YOU ANYHOW."

[nickatnoon61]

Oh get over yourself nickatoon61:D

Can you answer my question please.... What is the purpose of Britney being mind controlled? If you can come up with a decent answer, then I might be prepared to listen. You, what are your thoughts? Why Britney?

This is too fooking funny neila!!! Here is an experience I had about 2 years ago. Your above comment,(If you can come up with a decent answer, then I might be prepared to listen. )made me think of this. My first day at school for upgrading, the "teacher/programmer" was talking about the New Orleans hurricane. I mentioned my opinion of what really happened ,and I was promptly rebuffed by Miss Dumbcunt :D(I forgot her real name) Anyhow, so I changed the subject to a tangible "conspiracy" to see if Miss DC had any awareness happening at all! I mentioned chemtrails,and what the agenda behind them is.She naturally rebuffed me again! She said show me some proof, and maybe I will believe you. So I said if you want proof, step outside for 5 minutes,and I will point them out to you. I got up ,and walked 20 paces to the door opened it, and invited anyone in the classroom to look up and see what I was talking about.NOT ONE PERSON MADE A MOVE! I expected that from them, but I expect A LOT more from someone on the DIForum. You obviously have not done your homework,neila, so you will have to stay after class in detention!!!!! :D

[indigo]

You know, after reading this post from you, you sound like you are breaking out of your eggshell, but are too afraid of what other drones think of you. If you want your kids to grow up in worse slavery than you, keep on being a chicken, and living in fear. There is NO savior or superhero who is going to do it for us!
I have dumped my drone friends and family. Their "reality" is not what I want my reality to be. Now I have aware friends whom I can discuss anything with and be myself with. That is more important to me than living in fear of what these nitwits think of me! They drag you down to their levels! Speaking of nitwits, my ex, with the help of the satanic criminal courts, managed to steal my daughter from me 14 years ago. I was teaching my daughter "alternative" lifestyles, and vegetarianism. The bitch wouldn't stand for that, and as soon as I lost visitation, my daughter starting getting sick. You need to register and aquire a licence to drive, but anyone is allowed to reproduce!!!! That is the biggest tragedy! You said "I have read about mind control and believe it happens in certain cases." Well it is quite evident you have not researched the subject, or you don't really want to know the truth about the "entertainment" industry! BECAUSE, ALL OF THE "CELEBRITIES" ARE "MONARCHS", either programers or programees, or both . IT'S WAKE UP TIME ,neila!!!! Here is another link. http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...38120783343519Thanks for that link I did see that a few months ago, or one similar.

This is too fooking funny neila!!! Here is an experience I had about 2 years ago. Your above comment,(If you can come up with a decent answer, then I might be prepared to listen. )made me think of this. My first day at school for upgrading, the "teacher/programmer" was talking about the New Orleans hurricane. I mentioned my opinion of what really happened ,and I was promptly rebuffed by Miss Dumbcunt (I forgot her real name) Anyhow, so I changed the subject to a tangible "conspiracy" to see if Miss DC had any awareness happening at all! I mentioned chemtrails,and what the agenda behind them is.She naturally rebuffed me again! She said show me some proof, and maybe I will believe you. So I said if you want proof, step outside for 5 minutes,and I will point them out to you. I got up ,and walked 20 paces to the door opened it, and invited anyone in the classroom to look up and see what I was talking about.NOT ONE PERSON MADE A MOVE! I expected that from them, but I expect A LOT more from someone on the DIForum. You obviously have not done your homework,neila, so you will have to stay after class in detention!!!!! Ok, first of all I do read this forum regularly and I have read some of Ickes books, and although I believe most of the stuff, there are some things I just cant get my head around. But as I have said, I do believe mind control happens with out a doubt. I would never ask anyone of proof, as most of the time, seeing is believing and I'm am just seeing things differently to you, regarding Britney Spears. I have been on a forum (a shit fluffy narrow minded forum) putting up links, and getting lots of 'Miss dumbcunts' asking for proof. They were just too narrow minded to see what is really going on, or too scared, or just taking the piss. I have been bannned from forums for putting up Icke links:rolleyes:

Anyway, I'm still learning 'Sir' And I have never been one to complete my homework on time, but As my teacher used to say '' Better late than never'' or ''That was definately worth the wait'':D

It makes a change for me to be told to wake up, when it's usually me saying that to other people:cool: Also i think when people say they want proof or whatever, it means they are genuinely more interested than they let on;)

[cheesedanish]

Oh get over yourself nickatoon61:D

Can you answer my question please.... What is the purpose of Britney being mind controlled? If you can come up with a decent answer, then I might be prepared to listen. You, what are your thoughts? Why Britney?


Hi Neila, I think the purpose of Britney is a BIG distraction - I mean how
many millions are watching to see what this train wreck is going to do
next ! It's one big Soap Opera to keep people's mind's focused off what
is Really important in the world.

This 'mind control' is just making her do more crazy things to keep
the world watching and distracted from important issues.

Secondly everyone is so worried about her - with her loads of cash -
and is anyone thinking or worried about the poor people who are
Starving? No one gives a S&h^$#@t.

People are not in the real and they think that Hollyweird Soap Opera
is the Real world!

Another point is that children's minds might be more open than any
adult mind - children adapt easier to change than adults.

[nickatnoon61]

Thanks for that link I did see that a few months ago, or one similar.

Ok, first of all I do read this forum regularly and I have read some of Ickes books, and although I believe most of the stuff, there are some things I just cant get my head around. But as I have said, I do believe mind control happens with out a doubt. I would never ask anyone of proof, as most of the time, seeing is believing and I'm am just seeing things differently to you, regarding Britney Spears. I have been on a forum (a shit fluffy narrow minded forum) putting up links, and getting lots of 'Miss dumbcunts' asking for proof. They were just too narrow minded to see what is really going on, or too scared, or just taking the piss. I have been bannned from forums for putting up Icke links:rolleyes:

Anyway, I'm still learning 'Sir' And I have never been one to complete my homework on time, but As my teacher used to say '' Better late than never'' or ''That was definately worth the wait'':D

It makes a change for me to be told to wake up, when it's usually me saying that to other people:cool: Also i think when people say they want proof or whatever, it means they are genuinely more interested than they let on;)


You said:
Anyway, I'm still learning 'Sir'

"To Sir With Love" is one of my favorite movies!!!Those brats in that movie would be near saints compared to the youths today. So you never read the chapter in one of Icke's books about Cathy O'Brien and Tranceformation of America?

You said:I'm am just seeing things differently to you, regarding Britney Spears.

Meaning what?
I don't expect everyone to read this info, and believe it! Only a few awakened ones will really grasp it, or "get their head around it" as you say! It is just too scary for most drones! But for someone to discount it and then argue with me,like they have an informed "opinion",(kblood) is just plain insane! We are all at different levels of understanding,and I will speak for myself only. "I don't understand how most people can be so ignorant with the internet literally at their fingertips! neila, I have a flesh and blood friend, who is a victim of SRA. His mother is a psychic satanist.He was sodomized as a child, among other things too horrible to discuss, by Brian Mulroney and other "famous" people.He has escaped from that life and is doing pretty good now. I was at his home yesterday. So this is not just something I read on the internet! You are probably much younger than me.When I was in my 20s I was not interested in world affairs, but more interested in just getting laid. But I have always been interested in hearing conspiracy tales.I have probably learned more in the last 8-9 years online, than the rest of my life! KNOWLEDGE IS POWER!!!! cya....:)

[nickatnoon61]

Hi Neila, I think the purpose of Britney is a BIG distraction - I mean how
many millions are watching to see what this train wreck is going to do
next ! It's one big Soap Opera to keep people's mind's focused off what
is Really important in the world.

This 'mind control' is just making her do more crazy things to keep
the world watching and distracted from important issues.

Secondly everyone is so worried about her - with her loads of cash -
and is anyone thinking or worried about the poor people who are
Starving? No one gives a S&h^$#@t.

People are not in the real and they think that Hollyweird Soap Opera
is the Real world!

Another point is that children's minds might be more open than any
adult mind - children adapt easier to change than adults.
Cheesey, you think she has all this wealth, when she has NOTHING! These Monarchs are like zombies. They do not have any real thoughts of their own.Their minds are fragmented.She is paraded in public, to give the impression that she is a wealthy star!There is always a handler with her. Elvis's handler was Col Parker, Lennon's was Yoko Ono. Marilyn Monroe was one of the first famous Monarchs. She was passed around to all the celebrities,politicians, mobsters,programmers, and others for sex. Even the Kennedy brothers were dickin her! There is a mainstream book out their, written by a housekeeper who said MM was a prisoner in her own home. She was only allowed out to do acting/singing lessons,rehearsals/movies, and special appearances! When Icke calls this life a "movie" he is spot on! The reality spun by Hollyweird is just a movie that people think is real!!! Nothing is what it seems!!! I had a girlfriend years ago who told me that as a child ,she was raped continuously by her father. She had MPD, or DID! I experienced her changing "alters" or personalities during sex with me. It was a creepy feeling. I really had empathy for her as I knew bout the disorder from Icke's and O'Briens books. There are many who people think are just crazy, who have gone through these mind-altering traumatic experiences. They are victims!

[nickatnoon61]

Agreed but...
Turning into gossip?
Started out that way imo.
Some random person comes onto the forum
Saying they saw Britney do this and that
And everyone seemingly believes it without any qualms whatsoever.
Who's more mindcontrolled, I wonder?

Nowhere said:
"It's soooo sad that people look up to these losers for validation to their own lives."

JC said:
"Who's more mindcontrolled, I wonder?"

No need to wonder anymore Jesus Disciple. YOU ARE, BEING A CHRISTIAN!!!!:eek:
It is amazing how people, who have no idea of MK Ultra, will have an opinion on it!!! And of course, the pathetic pre-dick-table Christians will come up with their worthless views. Nowhere, posted what she saw, and she is spot on, about the behavior a Monarch will exhibit. Watch "Regis and Kelly"on the idiot box, and her behavior is so typical of a Monarch, also.

[indigo]

What do you think about britneys new song? YouTube - Broadcast Yourself..

Does it sound like mind control? Not at face value, no. But go a bit deeper and I think I will admit defeat:cool: You know what they say, Every song which is to be successful will have a double meaning. Or perhaps I'm seeing something different. I just dont know.

[nickatnoon61]

What do you think about britneys new song? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-lFeoegZl5A.

Does it sound like mind control? Not at face value, no. But go a bit deeper and I think I will admit defeat:cool: You know what they say, Every song which is to be successful will have a double meaning. Or perhaps I'm seeing something different. I just dont know.

neila, I listened to 30 secs. and I feel like slashing my wrists!!!:eek: Does that answer your questian???:D Seriously, it is crap, and a waste of time AND space!!!! The results speak for themselves!! Look at society, esp. the young impressionable kids!!!Nowhere said it perfect.............

"It's soooo sad that people look up to these losers for validation to their own lives."
But they are not "losers"! Britney is a victim, not unlike thousands of other "Monarchs". I have an ebook,I will email you, or can I pm it? It is life-changing, wakey wakey info! I'll see if I can post it, for all.

[amerigirl]

Wow
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/showbiz/showbiznews.html?in_article_id=478439&in_page_id=1773

[nickatnoon61]

Wow
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/showbiz/showbiznews.html?in_article_id=478439&in_page_id=1773

Amerigirl, she has put a few tons on eh?:eek: Rosie O'Donnel has some competition now!!!:D

[whitelightrabbit]

Britney spears has influenced a great deal of the younger generation who aspire to be like her.....along with all the other consumer egocentric puppets like the hiltons, the lohans etc......they're influence can be damaging, as children we imitate what we believe to be the 'happening thing' at the time....it's called popular culture....check out the rap scene, the drug scene, the consumerism and image that all this is acqainted with and have a look at the reflection of it in society.

There is a correlation.

It's not a new concept, bandura already demonstrated this with the damaging effects tv has on children's behaviour.

Keep an open mind on this, as mind control is much easier and subtle then you expect!!

bingo lydia! as freeman fly said you only have to see a six year old girl trying to do the latest sexy dance moves and singing stuff like 'hit me baby one more time' to know what mind controlled pop stars are all about.

[alrick888]

First of all I think this is a very interesting subject. It deserves more than a few generalized rants like "every celebrity is mind-controlled!", "they're all gay" etc.

From the Freeman blog I understand that even the traditional Christian view of rock stars having sold their sould to the devil is considered to be literally true by some. I never thought I would even seriously consider that.

And in this forum people seem to focus more on controllers and mind-controlled slaves.

So what is it? I am confused. Should we understand selling your to the devil figuratively as people being mind-controlled by Illuminati controllers? Or is all the satan worship in rock 'n roll (which I admit there is) to be taken seriously? And really, do you think Satan exists?

Obviously you can't say all celebrities are mind-controlled slaves. Are the Wachovski brothers who made the Matrix Trilogy mind-controlled? Is George Clooney, who has started to make controversial movies, mind-controlled?
I don't think so.

And if Marilyn Manson really was mind-controlled, then why did mainstream media blame him for the Columbine kilings? I think if you listen to his lyrics he is criticizing celebrity culture.

Guys, you have to be more careful, more specific, and come with better examples than just somebody abusing drugs and having a bout of diarrhea.

It's not that I don't want to believe what you say (in fact, with regards to Beatles, Jim Morisson and Madonna I believe the claims to be true) but come off it, not everybody whose song is played on the radio is a frigging mind-controlled slave!

[kblood]

I do in fact believe Satan exists. I even believe Michael Jackson to be his "avatar". Look at the life of Micael Jackson. It is simply brilliant and a work of art the devil himself could be proud of. So much deception, temptation, tragedy and so many other things. A true inspiration to all the devils around the world. And still he is mostly disregarded as just another guy :) Soo brilliant. He was famous and have done alot of seemingly perverted stuff in his life, and noone can even put a finger on him. He does not need to put a finger on anyone, because if my assumption is correct, he probably has quite alot of "dark side" beings, that has seen him for what he is, and would gladly make his will become their doing.

I have tried communicatiing with him doing those "hearings" trying to blame Micheal for child rape or whatever it was all about. I have to admit I do admire how he made such a joke of all the US court and law system. He made it all into a public satire. He seemed to know he what he was doing, and knew so very well. Nothing of what he did was by accident at all. Trust me on that one ;) Wether he did have sex with a underage young boy, is something I cannot claim true or false. But accusing the devil is quite ironic, since that is one of his own characteristics if you will :)

We should give Micheal his very own thread I think :) If we want to speak about celebrities mixing it all up, then he does seem a master of it to me.

With 2012 comming, I bet he has quite a few followers by now. I can only say I have faith in him knowing he is not going to win anything but more chaos in this world. And we always seem to find a way to make chaotic times turn into something good again.

All this said, no I do not believe making the symbol of satan and being a rock and roll musician is quite enough to judge a person as evil or something like that. As I see it, the part of ourselves that could be called Satan's "characteristics" are the parts that always tempts us, and make us distrust others and their motives. Makes us accuse and blame others for the wrongs in our own life. We need this to be human. We cannot live as a human being without these, unless we simply go live our life in solitude or as some kind of monk or whatever. If we follow our own greed, lust for power, lust for pleasuring ourselves and put our own needs before the needs of others everytime we get the choice, then we are quite likely to have him come whisper in our ears and keep luring us forward into a life of illusions, fame, power and wealth. If we fail in anything while on this path though, the fall is greater and the redemtion probably harder to find. It can be done, it can be done well, and it can inspire others to do great things as well.

Well... that was a bit about my beliefs in satan and all those other names he has.

[kblood]

What do you think about britneys new song? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-lFeoegZl5A.

Does it sound like mind control? Not at face value, no. But go a bit deeper and I think I will admit defeat:cool: You know what they say, Every song which is to be successful will have a double meaning. Or perhaps I'm seeing something different. I just dont know.

All music is mind control. We just accept it or reject it easier as music :)

Sounds to me like she actually wrote her own lyrics. She is really into this independence thing of hers...

It does seem to me that she has many reasons to feel deserted herself. She is not exactly good at making peace with her friends and family either though. I hope she get over her "Its the world that is the problem, not me!" period. Everything she has been doing lately is probably to be sure she is not controlled by others. Firing her manager and other people meant to keep her career going. Finding boyfriends, and breaking up, wether she did that or them. She still seems lost, and still seems to need to find herself.

Not a bad song, not a great one either. Not enough for a comeback, but she does not exactly seem ready for a comeback yet either. Maybe she should go for being a humanitarian instead, and just go for good person not egocentered on herself. Usually makes it all come by itself when doing that.

[nickatnoon61]

First of all I think this is a very interesting subject. It deserves more than a few generalized rants like "every celebrity is mind-controlled!", "they're all gay" etc.

From the Freeman blog I understand that even the traditional Christian view of rock stars having sold their sould to the devil is considered to be literally true by some. I never thought I would even seriously consider that.

And in this forum people seem to focus more on controllers and mind-controlled slaves.

So what is it? I am confused. Should we understand selling your to the devil figuratively as people being mind-controlled by Illuminati controllers? Or is all the satan worship in rock 'n roll (which I admit there is) to be taken seriously? And really, do you think Satan exists?

Obviously you can't say all celebrities are mind-controlled slaves. Are the Wachovski brothers who made the Matrix Trilogy mind-controlled? Is George Clooney, who has started to make controversial movies, mind-controlled?
I don't think so.

And if Marilyn Manson really was mind-controlled, then why did mainstream media blame him for the Columbine kilings? I think if you listen to his lyrics he is criticizing celebrity culture.

Guys, you have to be more careful, more specific, and come with better examples than just somebody abusing drugs and having a bout of diarrhea.

It's not that I don't want to believe what you say (in fact, with regards to Beatles, Jim Morisson and Madonna I believe the claims to be true) but come off it, not everybody whose song is played on the radio is a frigging mind-controlled slave! all rick88 I know it is hard to swallow that everything inour reality has been engineered/orchestrated. Do you think the Illuminati would not cover ALL the bases?Do you think they leave anything to chance? I have done enough researh on my own, and I have some expert friends,like Icke who have woken me up. It's wakey wakey time!!!!!:eek:

[kblood]

all rick88 I know it is hard to swallow that everything inour reality has been engineered/orchestrated. Do you think the Illuminati would not cover ALL the bases?Do you think they leave anything to chance? I have done enough researh on my own, and I have some expert friends,like Icke who have woken me up. It's wakey wakey time!!!!!:eek:

The Illuminati might be powerfull, but I am not sure Icke has actually found out who or what the Illuminati really are. Most of all I see them as oppertunists. They do plan ahead and probably has agendas that stretches over the millenia, but they are still just acting upon their great knowledge of the great all and everything....

What I am trying to say is that these guys are not holding on to their "puppet strings" each and every passing day. They probably wont have to do much about anything most of the time. They just make sure that their interrests arent in any kind of jeopardy.

[nowhere]

all rick88 I know it is hard to swallow that everything inour reality has been engineered/orchestrated. Do you think the Illuminati would not cover ALL the bases?Do you think they leave anything to chance? I have done enough researh on my own, and I have some expert friends,like Icke who have woken me up. It's wakey wakey time!!!!!:eek:


Hey Nick,

I can't believe that you and maybe 2 others visit the David Icke Forum because you actually agree. I'm glad to see someone functioning on a more than 1 digit I.Q. I can NOT believe these 'people' actually TAKE THE TIME TO VISIT THIS FORUM EVERYDAY AND ASK FOR YOUR PROOF THAT STUFF LIKE THIS IS TRUE. wow . . .

Nick you're wasting your energy.
I regret putting up this post.
WE ALL KNOW THE TRUTH , it's only a matter of wanting to be free.
You have too much knowledge to focus on those who are slowing you down.

I don't know how David Icke does it. Putting up with those who have chosen to be slaves. I would've cussed all their asses out by Day 2.

[auron]

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[alrick888]

Yeah, kick them the fuck out, they dare to ask questions, they dare to ask for proof...........the audacity!

Wakey wakey, they used to have a system like that, built a big wall around it, didn't work........

[nowhere]

Yeah, kick them the fuck out, they dare to ask questions, they dare to ask for proof...........the audacity!

Wakey wakey, they used to have a system like that, built a big wall around it, didn't work........


SHUT THE FUUUUCK UUP! You got questions? You want proof? Get off your ass and learn how to read. Get off this forum cuz you're not on this level. BYYYEEE. Fucken SHEEP. Just cuz you dumb don't mean you got to slow everyone else down.

[alrick888]

When you get off the booze (or whatever you're on), and your vision clears up, maybe this other forum is better for you, nowhere man. It is dedicated to the dictatorship of the proletariat (better ask your mum what that means..........):

http://forum.pravda.com.ua/index.php?0

Learn to make some molotov cocktails with your mates for the next soccer game.....

[nickatnoon61]

First of all I think this is a very interesting subject. It deserves more than a few generalized rants like "every celebrity is mind-controlled!", "they're all gay" etc.

From the Freeman blog I understand that even the traditional Christian view of rock stars having sold their sould to the devil is considered to be literally true by some. I never thought I would even seriously consider that.

And in this forum people seem to focus more on controllers and mind-controlled slaves.

So what is it? I am confused. Should we understand selling your to the devil figuratively as people being mind-controlled by Illuminati controllers? Or is all the satan worship in rock 'n roll (which I admit there is) to be taken seriously? And really, do you think Satan exists?

Obviously you can't say all celebrities are mind-controlled slaves. Are the Wachovski brothers who made the Matrix Trilogy mind-controlled? Is George Clooney, who has started to make controversial movies, mind-controlled?
I don't think so.

And if Marilyn Manson really was mind-controlled, then why did mainstream media blame him for the Columbine kilings? I think if you listen to his lyrics he is criticizing celebrity culture.

Guys, you have to be more careful, more specific, and come with better examples than just somebody abusing drugs and having a bout of diarrhea.

It's not that I don't want to believe what you say (in fact, with regards to Beatles, Jim Morisson and Madonna I believe the claims to be true) but come off it, not everybody whose song is played on the radio is a frigging mind-controlled slave!

Allrick, ,if it gets on the radio or TV it has been pre-screened, and ALLOWED air time. If that bursts your bubble about the pop culture(I aways thought a culture was a fungi):D tuff titty! Get over it! When you have no idea of what spiritual potential you possess, you will buy the bullshit served to you on a silver platter, and believe that is the only reality, out there.THAT IS THE AGENDA,IN A NUTSHELL. When I was younger I made the same mistakes, but I always thought,or felt there was something wrong with the pop culture! I did not have the benefit of the net to use and connect, with others who are wiser, and could maybe explain the agenda. Obviously being on this forum, you are farther advanced than most. If youm really want to rebel against the oppressors, you can do random acts of kindness, and help awaken others, to the LOVE energy! That really throws a wrench into the gears of the MFers who think they have it all wrapped up!

[nickatnoon61]

First of all I think this is a very interesting subject. It deserves more than a few generalized rants like "every celebrity is mind-controlled!", "they're all gay" etc.

From the Freeman blog I understand that even the traditional Christian view of rock stars having sold their sould to the devil is considered to be literally true by some. I never thought I would even seriously consider that.

And in this forum people seem to focus more on controllers and mind-controlled slaves.

So what is it? I am confused. Should we understand selling your to the devil figuratively as people being mind-controlled by Illuminati controllers? Or is all the satan worship in rock 'n roll (which I admit there is) to be taken seriously? And really, do you think Satan exists?

Obviously you can't say all celebrities are mind-controlled slaves. Are the Wachovski brothers who made the Matrix Trilogy mind-controlled? Is George Clooney, who has started to make controversial movies, mind-controlled?
I don't think so.

And if Marilyn Manson really was mind-controlled, then why did mainstream media blame him for the Columbine kilings? I think if you listen to his lyrics he is criticizing celebrity culture.

Guys, you have to be more careful, more specific, and come with better examples than just somebody abusing drugs and having a bout of diarrhea.

It's not that I don't want to believe what you say (in fact, with regards to Beatles, Jim Morisson and Madonna I believe the claims to be true) but come off it, not everybody whose song is played on the radio is a frigging mind-controlled slave!

AR888 said:"Obviously you can't say all celebrities are mind-controlled slaves".

Nick said:
You are right,AR888, some are perps/handlers.(Bob Hope,Frank Sinatra,Kissinger,Regis,Yoko Ono,Col.Parker,Willie Nelson, Kris Kristoffersen,and many others.) But they all suck the dick of the Zionists/Illuminati, and live in fear. You can see it on their drawn,withered,tired, faces!!!!

[indigo]

neila, I listened to 30 secs. and I feel like slashing my wrists!!!:eek: Does that answer your questian???:D Seriously, it is crap, and a waste of time AND space!!!! The results speak for themselves!! Look at society, esp. the young impressionable kids!!!Nowhere said it perfect.............

"It's soooo sad that people look up to these losers for validation to their own lives."
But they are not "losers"! Britney is a victim, not unlike thousands of other "Monarchs". I have an ebook,I will email you, or can I pm it? It is life-changing, wakey wakey info! I'll see if I can post it, for all.Yeah you can pm please, I would like to read it:D. Or have you put the link up somewhere?

[indigo]

All music is mind control. We just accept it or reject it easier as music :)

Sounds to me like she actually wrote her own lyrics. She is really into this independence thing of hers...

It does seem to me that she has many reasons to feel deserted herself. She is not exactly good at making peace with her friends and family either though. I hope she get over her "Its the world that is the problem, not me!" period. Everything she has been doing lately is probably to be sure she is not controlled by others. Firing her manager and other people meant to keep her career going. Finding boyfriends, and breaking up, wether she did that or them. She still seems lost, and still seems to need to find herself.

Not a bad song, not a great one either. Not enough for a comeback, but she does not exactly seem ready for a comeback yet either. Maybe she should go for being a humanitarian instead, and just go for good person not egocentered on herself. Usually makes it all come by itself when doing that.I think the song is a grower, although I will admit it's a bit depressing. The way she goes on about prayin and 'babyboy'(jesus?) and she cant give you the sun/son? I think my mind is too open sometimes:o . What about 'slave for you?' Hmmm, im gonna have to listen closer to those Britney songs:eek:

Anyway, yeah, i feel sorry for her, I also think she will have her kids taken away.

[kblood]

I sure hope she isnt refering to Jesus... damnit I guess I might have to contact her. I havent really been friendly with her. I just do not like people like her in my life... guess I will have to grow up faster than I want to :(

[nickatnoon61]

Yeah you can pm please, I would like to read it:D. Or have you put the link up somewhere?
Thanx for reminding me ,neila. I'll see if I can move it from my files to the forum. I am a "technopeasant" at times!!! :eek:

[nickatnoon61]

I think the song is a grower, although I will admit it's a bit depressing. The way she goes on about prayin and 'babyboy'(jesus?) and she cant give you the sun/son? I think my mind is too open sometimes:o . What about 'slave for you?' Hmmm, im gonna have to listen closer to those Britney songs:eek:

Anyway, yeah, i feel sorry for her, I also think she will have her kids taken away.

The kids are in trauma-based programming also. That is the way it works. They use the children to keep the parents in line, dutiful, also.O'Brien, still hasn't got her daughter Kelly, back yet!

[nickatnoon61]

Welcome to the forum nowhere!!

Wow, we now have our very own 'insider' Hollywood gossip
columnist to give us the scoops!! :D

Thanks for the low-down on Brittney.....I can't help but
feel quite sad for these girls who are being so badly used
and abused.

As for the post of the stars without make-up? Well this is
a wake-up call to all the guys who believe these women
look the way 'ideal' women should look ....now you see they
look just like the rest of us women look first thing in the morning.
The sexy glamour images spewed out by Hollywood are all
an illusion :D:D:D
Lime, I've seen you with your make up on, in the photo thread and it's pretty scary stuff!!!!!:eek::D ha ha

[nickatnoon61]

Hey Nick,

I can't believe that you and maybe 2 others visit the David Icke Forum because you actually agree. I'm glad to see someone functioning on a more than 1 digit I.Q. I can NOT believe these 'people' actually TAKE THE TIME TO VISIT THIS FORUM EVERYDAY AND ASK FOR YOUR PROOF THAT STUFF LIKE THIS IS TRUE. wow . . .

Nick you're wasting your energy.
I regret putting up this post.
WE ALL KNOW THE TRUTH , it's only a matter of wanting to be free.
You have too much knowledge to focus on those who are slowing you down.

I don't know how David Icke does it. Putting up with those who have chosen to be slaves. I would've cussed all their asses out by Day 2.

Nowhere, what you wrote(in quotations) below, is exactly how Cathy O'Brien describes the Monarchs!!!
"They literally look like clueless , drugged, puppies when you see them."

"It's so blatant to me that they are puppets, I wish others could see that."

"I'm glad I grew up around this to see Hollywood for what it really is".

"It's one thing to be crazy but this was like he was possessed."

Nowhere,I am glad that you have the discernment to see, when most others are blind!!!!

Now another huge clue to the degenerated condition of Hollyweird is the McMartin Day Care Scandal! It was the most expensive trial in California history, at that time,and all that happened was a few got a slap on the wrist! Hollywood stars were named by the children as perps! I saw the made for TV movie and it was quite a sad joke!!! They made it look like the prosecution were the bad guys and the satanic perps were being persecuted, by the system!!! The reaction of the drones, on this forum, is very pre dick table, as few dare to delve into this subject. It is too horrible, to conceive, because it is mostly small children who are the victims.Can you imagine what it must be like to have your baby sodomized, and then no one does anything about it????? And then you have to listen to your drone friends and family deny that this ever happened. What a slap in the face!!! It is a living hell, for the parents, no doubt!!!!

http://educate-yourself.org/tg/

[alrick888]

;) Sorry Nowhere didn't mean to alienate you or insult you.

Nick is right I guess, it's better to show random acts of kindness.

I respect you because you bring a unique hands-on Hollywood perspective to the whole celebrity-phenomenon. You're only human so maybe that's why there is a particularly bitter tone to your posts about Britney Spears. Would you really like to live her life? I certainly wouldn't. Anyway, I'm planning to
read up on celebrities' lives.

That being said, I have experienced both sides of the fence. Like you I have been a waiter and did other menial jobs. But I have also worked for a World Bank-related research organization (CGIAR) where I was driven around in 4WDs and had my own cook. And i have experienced that people can be pretty nasty when you are unprotected and well-off. It can be really lonely.

My experiences in there made me realize there was something more to it, and David Icke was right.

[nickatnoon61]

Brice Taylor - Thanks for the Memories

Foreward by Walter Bowart: Thanks for the Memmemmormee!?1

More than 25 years have passed since I began research into what was then called "brainwashing," a comically euphemistic term invented in the 1950's by CIA propaganda specialist Edward Hunter. It's been 21 years since my book on the subject Operation Mind Control was published internationally, and five years since it reappeared as the greatly expanded Limited Researcher's Edition, featuring an account of "Lois" that offers a synopsis of the book you hold in your hands. Now it can be told. "Lois" is Susan Ford, whose pseudonym is Brice Taylor. Her book Thanks for the Memories, which, by all reports is greatly anticipated by an audience better educated than the one I encountered in the 1970's, is now published for all the world to read.

I wrote my book Operation Mind Control while living in Arizona, still 'a backward state, dominated by Federal funds and jobs, and the dissociated and extremely provincial beliefs that come with it. In the 70's most of the people I spoke with about what I called, generically, "mind control" thought I was crazy. Those who were not afraid to express their opinions on the subject believed it to be impossible. They strongly believed they could not be made to do something against their will and without their own knowledge. They believed they had indomitable powers of will, like the CIA funded psychologist, Timothy Leary's fellow debater and Watergate burglar, G. Gordon Liddy. They believed, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that they could not be broken, fragmented, and mentally enslaved by any technology, even if it included hypnosis, drugs, electronic brain stimulation or what came to be called biological process control.

My interest in this subject was piqued by a young man, David, I had known all my life. He returned from a four-year tour with the United States Air Force in a confused and deeply tormented state. You could not say that he had a destroyed mind. He suffered from complete amnesia about the past years of service in the USAF, but he was making straight "A's" in premedical courses at a prominent University.

I did not recognize him as he sat, slumped in an overstuffed chair in my living room in 1973. He had undergone a couple of years of treatment with a competent psychiatrist and was finally asked by her, "Do you want to know what this is and how it was created, or do you just want to be able to function?" He decided the functioning was good enough, and his treatment accelerated, taking a wide turn away from the historical events he remembered, which included being a "human tape recorder" and witnessing the most secret negotiations with North Vietnam and with "Royals" of the Arabic persuasion who beheaded a prisoner he had just witnessed being interrogated. The image of this decapitation still haunts him in hisdreams.

In 1973 the Rockefeller Commission's Report revealed that CIA Director Richard Helms had supposedly destroyed 153 separate files on a long running, top secret project called MKULTRA, as his last act in office. In years to come many of those files were discovered as "misplaced" files. They revealed a long history of criminal activities by individuals who hid behind the National Security Act and ran amok, arrogantly treating citizens of their own country as just so many lab rats.

"I can hypnotize a man -- without his knowledge or consent -- into committing treason against the United States..." -- Dr. George Estabrooks, 1943.

This Canadian-born Rhodes Scholar was a hypnosis expert and former Professor at Colgate University with long-standing ties to U.S. military and domestic intelligence, and to Martin Orne, MD, a master "spy-chiatrist," author of Patty Hearst's "brainwashing" defense, and founding Board member of the False Memory "Spindrome" Foundation.

As I was researching The Rockefeller Commission's Report, following anecdotal evidence, putting the pieces together, then writing what turned out to be Operation Mind Control, I felt like the villagers in this Sufi tale (the blind tale of self-deception that soothed the fears of the real elephant in the cave--not copied).

In those days, shrinks (psychiatrists and psychologists) told me that what I was reporting were the results of a disease called "schizophrenia." The word meant fragmented personality, but in time, schizophrenia turned out to be a familial disease which could be treated and controlled with medication.

The stories I was reporting took several years to understand. I eventually discovered that what I was reporting was the real cause of the cryptocracy's trained elephant in the particular cave next to our hometown. I cannot tell you the experiences Sue Ford reports are accurate to the letter, since I was not a witness to all of them. But, as I revealed in Operation Mind Control (1994), I once saw Sue on a Palm Springs golf course in the company of her alleged handler, Bob Hope. At that time I was Editor-in-Chief of Palm Springs Life magazine, which had just won the "Maggie" Award for publishing the best city magazine. It was at the Bob Hope Classic that I saw Sue, but I didn't speak to her, as I was busy covering the happenings and celebrities, which have graced the magazine since the 1950's. Sue was one of the Bob Hope Classic hostesses, assisting the public and the press in a variety of functions.

My path crossed Sue's again years later when I was interviewing another survivor of mind control, but I'll spare you those details. Just read my book. I can tell you that Sue Ford believes the story she has written with all her being, and her account as described herein has remained consistent.

Most of her memories, conveyed in her book, she obtained outside of the therapy setting on the Island of Kauai, while journaling on the beach, since she could not afford a therapist at that time. The perceived safety of the location and the steady sound of the waves in the background provided her with the ability to focus inward, allowing intense flashbacks to recur, including intense memory of her physical sensations during those events (called body memories), all of which she was able to write down in her journals. Sue's journals are amazingly free of mistakes, and that's no small feat since they were written in indelible ink. One gets the impression that Sue simply 'downloaded' this material from her inner 'multiple personalities,' who were desperately wanting to get this information out.

Offering up these truths in these post-False Memory "Spindrome" Foundation days takes courage. The well-funded "foundation," composed of alleged pedophiles and spy-chiatrists, my term for professionals who worked for the CIA in mind control projects over a period of approximately fifty years, has led an effective fight in the courts to establish the fact that a person can easily be made to believe things which are not true. When I asked many of those who would later sit on the FMSF Board, if a person could be made to do something against their will and without their knowledge, they denied that it was possible in the mid-seventies.

They have not yet turned their earlier stance completely around. Nor have they taken the next step to offer proof that a person can be made to do something against their will and without their knowledge, but they have gone far enough with their argument that "justice is no longer served by 'eyewitness' accounts." Responding to FMSF lawsuits, the State of California, I'm told, has made new laws, which would disqualify the testimony of anyone who has ever confessed to having been hypnotized.

Most lawyers and judges don't understand dissociative disorders because most "mental health

professionals" don't understand them, and/or haven't bothered to educate the judicial branch of government. To begin to understand the full range of dissociative disorders, from Post-traumatic Stress Disorder to Bipolar Disorder to the former Multiple Personality Disorder (now called Dissociative Identity Disorder), one must confront the National Security State and its military/industrial complex, which created the killers who all too often came home from their service to their country to beat and sexually abuse their wives and children.

One gets the impression today that the majority of both "mental health experts" and judges believe that Multiple Personality Disorder can easily be faked during expert examinations. However, most professionals with experience treating DID will tell you that it is almost impossible to fake an autonomic response, the kind of response that is used to assess the reality of a dissociated state. Faking an autonomic response would be about as easy as deliberately dilating or contracting your pupils without any change of light stimulus.

On one case the Freedom of Thought Foundation sent me to investigate, the case of Robert Joe Moody, an alleged serial killer with a Top Secret security clearance in the USMC, I brought one of the leading experts in the treatment of DID into the prison conference room. Within minutes this doctor had the killer manifesting four different personalities. When he first switched into the killer personality the room filled with heat. The doctor told me it was not unusual for a whole variety of physical changes to occur when a multiple switched. The room quickly getting hot from the temperature change of Moody's body when he switched from one personality to the other is a good example of the sort of autonomic response I'm talking about. I'd like to see even the best-trained actor do that on cue!

After the interview with Moody, as we were leaving the prison, the doctor said to me, "Well, what do you want to do? Integrate these personalities, or just let the little nine-year-old personality take the punishment (death by lethal injection) for all the others, just like he has always been doing."

In the only study of death row inmates in America, roughly 14% tested as being undiagnosed cases of DID. Only a few prisons were used in this study. It focused only on convicted murderers and did not investigate violent criminals who were convicted of assault or crimes less than murder. Other noncapital offenders were omitted. This study clearly showed the ignorance, or prejudice, of the American judicial system, one in which the diagnosis "malingering" is given to people suffering from DID.

Malingering is a psychiatric term that means the subject is faking an illness. The poorly trained psychologists and psychiatrists working as court appointed "expert witnesses" don't know how to test nor diagnose Dissociative Disorders. The most tragic moment of Moody's story, for most, is when they view the police videotape of the accused killer being read the Miranda Warnings. Here, clearly, is the nine-year-old personality, "Bobby," picking at a scab on his hand, speaking in a halting voice, not understanding who he was, due to Amnestic Fugue, nor what the words in the Miranda Warnings meant. It was the only time the accused was read his rights. And as you might expect, Bobby wasn't the killer, nor was he even "present" at the scene of the crime. The killer personality was named XE and was, by all present indications, created during Moody's service in the Marine Corps.

"Mental health professionals" generally overlook the possibility of deliberate programming. Or maybe that's part of the conspiracy against freedom of thought. Many shrinks are themselves unwitting accomplices in this conspiracy. Professional expressions of denial about the access and deliberate programming of dissociated children by agents of National Security States is about as comforting as if they'd told you that the conclusions of the Warren Commission Report were accurate and correct. Even certain members of The International Society for the Study of Dissociative Disorders has put DID in a separate legal category, so that, people expressing multiple personalities cannot be found "not guilty by reason of insanity."

Dr. Colin Ross, one of the leading experts on Dissociative Disorders, expressed the opinion that DID may be the cause of most of the serious problems of our society, such as gangsterism, drive-by shootings, schoolyard assassinations, random acts of terrorism and all the rest of the trauma America has been experiencing over the past few years--an idea not yet examined by criminologists, prison experts, and others who would supposedly protect and serve.

To understand dissociation is to understand the paradigm shift in our culture--from an industrial culture to an information culture. To understand it is to look into the heart of the Dissociated States of America and the Dissociated States of Europe and the Orient. The seeds of dissociation have been sown throughout history, from our earliest recorded days until the present. You can find evidence of it in the first terrors of the cavemen, in the shamanic practices of most primitive cultures, to the present co-option of severely dissociated people found among the ranks of modem military recruits. A cross section of our society finds its way into military service, and a representational number of them suffer from Dissociative Disorders. These form a fertile pool for recruitment of programmed personnel.

After you've met a few of them, you realize they have one thing is common--they are highly suggestible. Thus it is easy to capitalize on the trauma implanted in their child's mind by daddy, uncle, a neighbor or whomever. Once dissociation shows up in the military "entrance tests," they are sorted out for programming. From their ranks are created autonomic assassins, amnestic couriers, and Mata Hari sexpionage agents who've given their involuntary all with no consent form requested.

Who would do such a thing you ask? Read on. Learn about the cryptocracy that has been gradually amassing its power over the human mind since the days when the swastika was forced underground, and its armbands torn from the sleeves, but its legacy was not removed from the hearts and minds of those welcomed to America under Project Paperclip, when Nazi war criminals, posing as scientists, were flown from the front, hidden among those who had spilled their blood fighting fascism.

The value of programming to the cryptocrats is understood when you realize its usefulness in harnessing a slave labor force and covering up crimes. More than one forensic psychiatrist has told me that our criminal justice systems are not prepared to deal with these cases. And it's been that way for quite some time. The litigious actions of the False Memory "Spindrome" Foundation have done further damage to justice by successfully obfuscating the realities of Dissociative Disorders and by blaming its cause on the treatments of incompetent "mental health professionals."

Whether a victim of DID, trained and conditioned and honed for govemment use, claims they have been raised in a Satanic Cult, or a Secret Society, or been abducted by aliens matters not at all. For eons of time, throughout the entire history of mankind (as far as we know) war and trauma have created this evil, which is multi-generational, passed down the family tree from parent to child in an unbrokenchain. The flavor of the torture matters not--it is none the less torture. The style of programming matters not--it is none the less programming. Usually the women are tumed into slaves of one kind or another; the men are turned into killers or handlers. Regardless of the content of their story, the professional can only take it at face value, support the client, use it as a metaphor if nothing else, and try one technique after another until they get the results they are seeking, reintegration and eventual recovery.

After spending the past five years studying programmed killers, it is refreshing to turn once again to Sue Ford's case. Most of us cannot keep from wincing at her vivid descriptions in certain parts. Others similarly victimized have experienced tortures so terrible (literally unspeakable) that they might think Sue had a "privileged" time of it. Though, Sue was used at a very "high level" in such ways that required her physical preservation. Many survivors, it would appear, are generally too incapacitated to write their own story and too destitute or crippled to achieve sufficient recovery. Sue's story, truly a spy-chiatrist's "nightmare come true," is like a fascinating, multifaceted gemstone washed up on a white, sandy Hawaiian beach after having battled typhoons, rip tides and the treacherous forces of man and nature. It is the story of a survivor who truly has emerged as a 'Victor' against all odds.

We must salute Sue. She has preceded the therapeutic community's understanding of dissociation and reintegration in the context of mind control. She's been a teacher as well as a patient, and has inspired many of those who are leading the way toward real healing, not just a drugging of symptoms as is too commonly found to be the "mental health" cure for MPD/DID. Through her valiant recovery from trauma-based mind control, Sue has paved the way for other survivors to follow.

Let's join her in shining the light on the path for those survivors who are ready, willing and able to stand and be counted. Their liberation will be ours--all of us!

To your own Free Thinking!

W.H. Bowart Director Freedom of Thought Foundation

1 James Joyce, Finnigan's Wake, 1938

[phoebe]

Nowhere said:
"It's soooo sad that people look up to these losers for validation to their own lives."

JC said:
"Who's more mindcontrolled, I wonder?"

No need to wonder anymore Jesus Disciple. YOU ARE, BEING A CHRISTIAN!!!!:eek:
It is amazing how people, who have no idea of MK Ultra, will have an opinion on it!!! And of course, the pathetic pre-dick-table Christians will come up with their worthless views. Nowhere, posted what she saw, and she is spot on, about the behavior a Monarch will exhibit. Watch "Regis and Kelly"on the idiot box, and her behavior is so typical of a Monarch, also.

Hi Nick.
Jesus Disciple was me posting from my bf's account
During my temporary suspension for posting DI Newsletter.
I am NOT a Christian and neither is my bf.
lol.
You jump to conclusions far too quickly!
Based on what?
A forum username!?
Jesus Disciple - JeDi.
See?

What makes you think I have
'No idea of MK Ultra'?
I have extensively researched the subject
I've read Springmeier and Wheeler's research
Have read Trance-Formation of America
Also the Brice Taylor book and various others
Plus other research.
So what?
Regardless of whether I know about MK Ultra or not
My opinion is that Britney Spears isn't MK'd
(Any more than the rest of us).
She's just a messed up, drugged up has been.
No need to attach any more significance than that.
People like to scrabble around for evidence
To fit their view of a world full of conspiracy.
This thread is just more of that.
Sensationalism to entertain the conspiracists.
You say 'nowhere' posted what she saw.
Do you believe everything you read on the internet?
Some random person comes along as says
She saw Britney do such and such
And you believe it without any problem whatsoever?
Scary.

[loveforall]

have you ever seen footage of britney spears? is that a person in complete controll of their senses, paris hilton, say what about lindsay lohan...unless they are acting retarded everytime there is a camera i would comfortably assume they are NOT in controlling their own lives, probably even their bowel movements. look at who pamela anderson is dating, see who britney was 'spotted' with ILLUSIONISTS. look at who they date, where they are 'seen' and the rehabs they go to. madonna kissing britney & x-tina...dont it sound a bit off to you, more than some just going off the rails? it's like behind all the mind controll, the handlers are having the fucking cat fights, i'm sick debating and i am trying to convince anyone...the fact remains, they do not look in control of their senses. period...

love for all

[nickatnoon61]

Hi Nick.
Jesus Disciple was me posting from my bf's account
During my temporary suspension for posting DI Newsletter.
I am NOT a Christian and neither is my bf.
lol.
You jump to conclusions far too quickly!
Based on what?
A forum username!?
Jesus Disciple - JeDi.
See?

What makes you think I have
'No idea of MK Ultra'?
I have extensively researched the subject
I've read Springmeier and Wheeler's research
Have read Trance-Formation of America
Also the Brice Taylor book and various others
Plus other research.
So what?
Regardless of whether I know about MK Ultra or not
My opinion is that Britney Spears isn't MK'd
(Any more than the rest of us).
She's just a messed up, drugged up has been.
No need to attach any more significance than that.
People like to scrabble around for evidence
To fit their view of a world full of conspiracy.
This thread is just more of that.
Sensationalism to entertain the conspiracists.
You say 'nowhere' posted what she saw.
Do you believe everything you read on the internet?
Some random person comes along as says
She saw Britney do such and such
And you believe it without any problem whatsoever?
Scary. Well wtf is anyone supposed to ASSume with a username like JesusDisciple???? Why would anyone use such a username if they aren't Christian???? Nowhere is a random person eh? Maybe you are the "random" person. If you can't add 2+2 and get 4, then maybe you are mind-controlled/brainwashed beyond repair, esp. if you have read all those books like you said(which I doubt)! I have read,researched,experienced(a friend was abused, SRA) MK Ultra, and I draw my conclusions from that evidence, and gut feelings, which are usually right. IT'S CALLED COMMON SENSE and DISCERNMENT!!!You have already mislead, by using such a username. Why do you use that name, if you, or your BF are not a Christian? Sounds hokey to me already!!!!

[phoebe]

Well wtf is anyone supposed to ASSume with a username like JesusDisciple???? Why would anyone use such a username if they aren't Christian???? Nowhere is a random person eh? Maybe you are the "random" person. If you can't add 2+2 and get 4, then maybe you are mind-controlled/brainwashed beyond repair, esp. if you have read all those books like you said(which I doubt)! I have read,researched,experienced(a friend was abused, SRA) MK Ultra, and I draw my conclusions from that evidence, and gut feelings, which are usually right. IT'S CALLED COMMON SENSE!!!You have already mislead, by using such a username. Why do you use that name, if you, or your BF are not a Christian? Sounds hokey to me already!!!!

So you are choosy in what/whom you believe.
Good!
However on this occasion you're totally wrong.
I have read those books (why the hell would I lie?)
And neither myself or my bf are Christian.
Can't be entirely sure why the bf chose the username
Being that I'm not in his head.
Jedi/Djedi...
It's a Star Wars thing...

Not particularly fussed if you think that's 'hokey' or not.
Just glad I'm not as paranoid as you.

[nickatnoon61]

have you ever seen footage of britney spears? is that a person in complete controll of their senses, paris hilton, say what about lindsay lohan...unless they are acting retarded everytime there is a camera i would comfortably assume they are NOT in controlling their own lives, probably even their bowel movements. look at who pamela anderson is dating, see who britney was 'spotted' with ILLUSIONISTS. look at who they date, where they are 'seen' and the rehabs they go to. madonna kissing britney & x-tina...dont it sound a bit off to you, more than some just going off the rails? it's like behind all the mind controll, the handlers are having the fucking cat fights, i'm sick debating and i am trying to convince anyone...the fact remains, they do not look in control of their senses. period...

love for all
LFA, there is so much documentation already, out there.Dr. Cameron, comes to mind! He did his MK "research" in the Montreal area. I am suspicious of anyone who adamantly denies and refuses this phenomenom. It's ok to say,"I don't believe it!" out of ignorance, but when people carry on arguing about it without bringing any evidence to the contrary, that is when "I rest my case". If you read my prior posts on this subject, you will understand that this is not just "something I read on the internet". I have some friends who are experts, and I have had personal experience with "monarchs/multiples".Understanding the ILLUSION that Icke talks about,is easier after reading about MK Ultra and the like!Everyone wakes up on their own time! And some get mad as hell when you try!!! :D

[nickatnoon61]

So you are choosy in what/whom you believe.
Good!
However on this occasion you're totally wrong.
I have read those books (why the hell would I lie?)
And neither myself or my bf are Christian.
Can't be entirely sure why the bf chose the username
Being that I'm not in his head.
Jedi/Djedi...
It's a Star Wars thing...

Not particularly fussed if you think that's 'hokey' or not.
Just glad I'm not as paranoid as you.
PARANOIA IS A HEIGHTENED SENSE OF AWARENESS!!!:D
You said: Can't be entirely sure why the bf chose the username
Being that I'm not in his head.

I see, you just can't ask him,eh???? You are too funny!!! ;)
This is what I mean about who to trust or who not to! There is so much trolling/lying going on these forums that I HAVE to be choosy in who I believe.But I have almost learned just as much from liars as I have from truthseekers. There is something to learn in every experience.So then, tell me, why dozens/hundreds/thousands or millions of other celebrities may be MKed but not Britney! Is she one of your girlhood Icons, or something???? Have you spent hundreds of $$$ on Britney paraphenalia????:eek: If you have any spare Britney blowup dolls, send me one,wilya!!!:D Just make sure you wipe the crap off it first,eh!!!:D

[dane]

Maaaan i ultimately LOVE JESUS. I would follow him anywhere.
DOESNT MEAN CHRIST HIMSELF IS A RELIGION.
OR THAT THIS PERSONS "CHRISTIAN". WE ALL KNO EACH RELIGION
HAS ITS TRAPS AND ADDED DECEIT. What are you saying of Jesus nick?
looks like theres some losers on this site.

[alrick888]

Just to make my stand in the Britney Flame Wars more clear:

I do believe in trauma-based mind control. It exists, and it is something of all times.

I recently read an article about female slavery and prostitution and this is exactly the technique the pimps and traders employed. It is also a technique used in personal relationships to gain power over people.

I think it's very possible a lot of celebrities and artists are DIDs (multiple personalities) and that this fact is exploited by managers and/or handlers. I think in the case of Madonna she was just using Britney and Christina Aguilera to promote her take on sexuality. Was there an even higher handler behind that, trying to wreck marriages by mass-producing lesbians? Maybe, maybe not.

I have seen the otherwise gentle Richard Gere (on video) in a different personality where he viciously attacked photographers. I think he is a DID personality and he has in fact become a mind-controlled slave for the Dalai Lama. I think the Dalai Lama's only intent is to promote Buddhism and world peace (and maybe himself). So Richard is in fact a "good slave", if that exists at all.

There an another actor (turned photographer) who became very close to the Dalai Lama. He got a very fanatic look about him. The dirt on him is that he stole somebody's girlfriend (if only for a night) and then that other man committed suicide.

But I don't see a higher central level where some-one is pulling all the different strings and saying "OK, now let's make Britney Spears a famous singer". There are too much factors in someone becoming famous or not to be able to control and orchestrate them all, IMHO.

[nickatnoon61]

Just to make my stand in the Britney Flame Wars more clear:

I do believe in trauma-based mind control. It exists, and it is something of all times.

I recently read an article about female slavery and prostitution and this is exactly the technique the pimps and traders employed. It is also a technique used in personal relationships to gain power over people.

I think it's very possible a lot of celebrities and artists are DIDs (multiple personalities) and that this fact is exploited by managers and/or handlers. I think in the case of Madonna she was just using Britney and Christina Aguilera to promote her take on sexuality. Was there an even higher handler behind that, trying to wreck marriages by mass-producing lesbians? Maybe, maybe not.

I have seen the otherwise gentle Richard Gere (on video) in a different personality where he viciously attacked photographers. I think he is a DID personality and he has in fact become a mind-controlled slave for the Dalai Lama. I think the Dalai Lama's only intent is to promote Buddhism and world peace (and maybe himself). So Richard is in fact a "good slave", if that exists at all.

There an another actor (turned photographer) who became very close to the Dalai Lama. He got a very fanatic look about him. The dirt on him is that he stole somebody's girlfriend (if only for a night) and then that other man committed suicide.

But I don't see a higher central level where some-one is pulling all the different strings and saying "OK, now let's make Britney Spears a famous singer". There are too much factors in someone becoming famous or not to be able to control and orchestrate them all, IMHO. KEEP RESEARCHING alrick, and when you know who to watch, you will start to see the commonalities and connections. I realize it is not easy to accept, that this ILLUSION has been spun by a highly organized group. When we are bombarded by subliminal messages on TV, etc. all day,HAARP,etc. It is easy to deny this is happening. The first step is to admit to being MKed ourselves, to certain degrees, then maybe it wouldn't be so difficult to see a higher level of CONTROL that exists.

[mountain]

Have read Trance Formation of America by Cathy O'brien and Mark Phillips. They claim that entertainers are often used in the mind-control projects, to mind control masses through lyrics and sound and as drug fronts.

I used to wonder why they earn so much money! I hear they rarely get to spend it in the way they desire. Observing their behavior is obvious that there is something very wrong. Try looking at video clips of them and notice their disassociation. I truly feel for them and I have immense faith in their freedom.

Anyway, it seems as if everyone has had some sort of brainwashing, and we need to deprogram ourselves by feeling rather than thinking.

PEACE & LOVE

[_underscore_]

OMG! Britney! IMHO! Spears! LOL! Fame! STFU! Pop! TGIF! Yay!

[nickatnoon61]

Have read Trance Formation of America by Cathy O'brien and Mark Phillips. They claim that entertainers are often used in the mind-control projects, to mind control masses through lyrics and sound and as drug fronts.

I used to wonder why they earn so much money! I hear they rarely get to spend it in the way they desire. Observing their behavior is obvious that there is something very wrong. Try looking at video clips of them and notice their disassociation. I truly feel for them and I have immense faith in their freedom.

Anyway, it seems as if everyone has had some sort of brainwashing, and we need to deprogram ourselves by feeling rather than thinking.

PEACE & LOVE

mountain, the whole deal is a facade!!! The money goes back to the controllers to keep US in line!!!EVERYTHING ON TV IS A LIE!!! Google the "Disney Bloodline", and find out what the Mickey Mouse Club is all about!!!!

[mountain]

ThanX! Also check out Fritz & Springmeier!

[ninja17]

LMFAO haha (thats da first time i ever wrote that shit,whutever)
great first post,homie-keep it scrubbin:D

pce

[nickatnoon61]

ThanX! Also check out Fritz & Springmeier!
Yes, I have read some of his stuff, on the net...thanx,Nick.

[smoking oceanus]

When you play The Britney Spears song: 'Baby One More Time' backwards she sings: sleep with me, im not too young

Listen to it hear: Link


Personally i dont believe Britney and her producer did this on purpose. Its simply a reverse speech where you say something, record it, play the speech backwards and the message reveals subconscious-based thoughts.

What the message revealed is based on Britneys MK Ultra subconscious programming being sexualised at a young age, her purpose is to programme younger people to become more sexualy active.

This type of sexual programming and triggers is mostly directed at kids and that also explains the subliminal sexual messages in Disney films.

[tiswas]

Britney Spears supports George W Bush.:mad:

[revolutionary_jam]

All I got to say is:
LEAVE BRITNEY ALONE! - YouTube

[chattanova]

All I got to say is:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHmvkRoEowc

lol What scares me most is that this (in the video) is actually a guy (Im serious:confused:)

[ninja17]

fuck! i watched all of them vids on uporn making fun of britney n shit...
:)
...but thats the fuckin best of all
YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.
HAHA
and all these other people makin fun of that britney fan who is a actually a man(yes,chris rocker.i guess hes just fuckin sround too) are just some sorry asses,btw this britney gir...um...man...im srry...is just a srry ass too

man whut am i writing here,hope u get the point

pce

[whitelightrabbit]

When you play The Britney Spears song: 'Baby One More Time' backwards she sings: sleep with me, im not too young

Listen to it hear: Link (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EV4kQBDoy70&mode=related&search=)


Personally i dont believe Britney and her producer did this on purpose. Its simply a reverse speech where you say something, record it, play the speech backwards and the message reveals subconscious-based thoughts.

What the message revealed is based on Britneys MK Ultra subconscious programming being sexualised at a young age, her purpose is to programme younger people to become more sexualy active.

This type of sexual programming and triggers is mostly directed at kids and that also explains the subliminal sexual messages in Disney films.

well summed up.

[mountain]

Pathetic! this is becoming a trend.
LEAVE BRITNEY ALONE! - YouTube

[ninja17]

yea.sick burn!:confused: haha *irony

mountain,are you actually lookin like that girl in your avatar or are you a hairy man proud of his art?? :)

pce

[mountain]

Lookin' like girl in avatar and proud of my art

[fresco]

lol What scares me most is that this (in the video) is actually a guy (Im serious:confused:)

You should check out this guy's other videos, he's an obsessed britney spears fan and a lunatic.



http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=_5MVp5WEY3U

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=dohJmVKcgQM

The comments made to this guy on youtube, actually scares me more.

[fresco]

{Warning : Offensive and Bigotted)

The Crying Britney fan Chris Crocker - Leave Britney Alone ! - YouTube

[ninja17]

thats da shit...:)



pce

[limelady]

Lol...thanks to youtube the way things are going, before too long
the 'cornhole' boy/girl will be just as famous as Britney. :D

[chattanova]

You should check out this guy's other videos, he's an obsessed britney spears fan and a lunatic.



http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=_5MVp5WEY3U

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=dohJmVKcgQM

The comments made to this guy on youtube, actually scares me more.

YIKES :eek::eek:

[fresco]

YIKES :eek::eek:

:D


Yes, i agree with you on that.


He's crazy!

[resistance]

These celebrities have become the normal thing to aspire too for the masses, and i'm not talking about just teenagers either, TV is brainwashing millions of people from all angles, media, soaps and films, the list go's on. millions of hypnotized TV fans actually try and live the lives of there favorite soap star such is the depth of illusion and confusion in many peoples minds, this is a nation that doesn't even know itself let alone having to face up to the truth! what hope have they got?

[fresco]

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=aiqkDm9UoKo

[majicdragon]

On methods of mind control... when I think back, I feel now that I was in a mind controled environment going to school back in the 80's. Yes. The music lyrics, the lack of education... lack of real education. I had an old german teacher who rushed our grade five class through the curriculum just to give us a three week extensive lesson on German Propaganda Durring WWII. At that time I could only see how the German people were under control. I couldn't see that any of what he taught pertained to me at that moment. I'll bet he could.

I wonder how I'll feel when the time comes to look back in retrospect at today. This board, other boards, Alex Jones, David Icke, Tsarion, Even 911 truth...

I may know by then that the Truth movement was infact sponsored by the nwo agenda.

How can I say this?... Well, what will we do when we've had enough of it from what we're being forced to learn? Illuminati planned civil strife?

And we are being told not to sufr the internet on sites such as Conspiracy and Truth... So we do it because we are inherently rebellious. And the Controllers know that we are inherently rebellious. So we end up filling our heads with the right stuff to fullfill our Controllers's wishes.

I've posted things about truths that I'm pretty sure the Controllers don't want you to know about and sure enough, The posts disappear quite quickly. For example, I posted about the SAG DEG being the "Rattlesnake constellation" Of the cherrokee indian.

And if you don't know what SAG DEG has got to do with the Native People, it proves my point where you are concerned.

Brittany spears is no more mind controled than the rest of us. Including those who may even know the real truth, like Nickatnoon.

[nickatnoon61]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7uSlqI1AVUk&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwidget%2Da8%2Eslide%2Ecom%2Fwidg ets%2Fsf%2Eswf

[mariag]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7uSlqI1AVUk&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwidget%2Da8%2Eslide%2Ecom%2Fwidg ets%2Fsf%2Eswf

Hey Hey! I LOVE THIS ONE.
I wanne Be putting this one on my community to show my users ... its soo great ! Thank You.

[nickatnoon61]

Hey Hey! I LOVE THIS ONE.
I wanne Be putting this one on my community to show my users ... its soo great ! Thank You.
Ur welcum, mariag !!! :)

[mariag]

Ur welcum, mariag !!! :)

Good ,It´s Done.I´, working very hard at the moment at my community´s news desk at exposing the NWO with pictures.Trying to wake up my users ..

http://confideinme.dinstudio.se/

[strider]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7uSlqI1AVUk&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwidget%2Da8%2Eslide%2Ecom%2Fwidg ets%2Fsf%2Eswf

haha, brilliant :D

[nickatnoon61]

Good ,It´s Done.I´, working very hard at the moment at my community´s news desk at exposing the NWO with pictures.Trying to wake up my users ..

http://confideinme.dinstudio.se/

Is it a community website or a newsletter/paper?

[mariag]

Is it a community website or a newsletter/paper?
I have a community named confideinme, and this link that i gave you is our newsdesk ... my online office so to speak :)

[nickatnoon61]

I have a community named confideinme, and this link that i gave you is our newsdesk ... my online office so to speak :) So it is a website that you work from home?

[mariag]

So it is a website that you work from home?
Yes from home.

[mariag]

So it is a website that you work from home?
I call the website my "office" beacuse I announce all new things that goes on at my community there.:D

[mountain]

This is weird!
YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.

[gullick]

I think she's pilled off 'er tits there mayt!

[raffles]

also.O'Brien, still hasn't got her daughter Kelly, back yet!

I didnt know that nick, i read somewhere O'Briens daughter was dumped in a crack house and she got her back after mark got a tip off.

[smoking oceanus]

This is weird!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sFUCZp_EOdQ


Did you know that this video was actually filmed and posted on the internet around the exact same time as the bizarre Anna Nicole Smith (wearing clown make up) home video??.

Anna's video was filmed by her Husband/Handler Howard K. Stern and Britney's video was filmed by her ex husband Kevin Federline, possibly her Handler also.

Very weird. Its almost like their trying keep some detail on MK Ultra behavior or something.

When you watch both video's you can see that both Howard and Kevin speak to Anna and Britney in the exact same childlike manner because Anna and Britney both have multiple personalties.

[bazzybazzy]

http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t260/bazzybazzy/britneyskullbones.jpg

yikes, that video scares me, she's acting about 10 years old! :(
I'm not really clued up on mutiple personalities but that is surely one of hers, maybe it goes back to when she first started being controlled? i'm not sure.
I hope she'll turn out okay in the end.. *wishful thinking*

[eternal_spirit]

http://www.scroogle.org/gifs/britney.gif

[cheesedanish]

Do you think Britney will ultimately suffer the same fate as Anna Nicole?
The latest in the Britney soap opera is that she has lost custody of
her children - how far will this story go? And How will it End?

[mountain]

I have a feeling that she will prevail, and maybe share more details of her experience when she does. Like she mentioned in her that video, she knows she has missing time! Her shaving her head was definitely some sign of rebellion and a cry for help. This poor girl, was made to be a star, idolized by our childrean and degraded right in our faces!! Britney is strong! I have observed her old interviews and she has a strong spirit! Have faith that she will prevail!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yyfn2A-FBFY

[eternal_spirit]

I have a feeling that she will prevail, and maybe share more details of her experience when she does. Like she mentioned in her that video, she knows she has missing time! Her shaving her head was definitely some sign of rebellion and a cry for help. This poor girl, was made to be a star, idolized by our childrean and degraded right in our faces!! Britney is strong! I have observed her old interviews and she has a strong spirit! Have faith that she will prevail!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yyfn2A-FBFY



...................

All the signs are there to show her programming maybe breaking down, and she knows or at least feels something is controlling her and the supressed memories are surfacing.

Seems her controllers/bosses are throwing as much bad stuff at her from every angle, so if she does speak out about being mind controlled because of her latest PR/Media issues, most people will be against her already and won't believe her revelations, stories of abuse etc. I think deep down she's a sweet girl ( the real person ) and has been used by the entertainment industry

Maybe she's even been reading about mind control or someone has been trying to deprogram her. :)

[mountain]

...................

All the signs are there to show her programming maybe breaking down, and she knows or at least feels something is controlling her and the supressed memories are surfacing.

Seems her controllers/bosses are throwing as much bad stuff at her from every angle, so if she does speak out about being mind controlled because of her latest PR/Media issues, most people will be against her already and won't believe her revelations, stories of abuse etc. I think deep down she's a sweet girl ( the real person ) and has been used by the entertainment industry

Maybe she's even been reading about mind control or someone has been trying to deprogram her. :)

Yes, let us hope so. i am thinking that Kevin Federline is NOT her handler. I believe he is oblivious of the subject, but he does know or suspect that Britney is troubled and wants his kids so that they are not exposed to it. Could her handler be a producer or bodyguard?? And yes, it is possible that she has been breaking down her control. I feel she is trying to self-deprogram.

[lenejento]

Wow, I've just read through the whole thread. I will definately read up more about mind control, I guess one chapter of a David Icke book is abit shrt of knowledge on this area. What do any of you recommend?

Edit: I've joined this other forum (not a conspiracy related one), and one of the guys there says he's got multiple personalities, do you think this can occour without someone else (a mind controller) intentionally inducing it?

[nickatnoon61]

Wow, I've just read through the whole thread. I will definately read up more about mind control, I guess one chapter of a David Icke book is abit shrt of knowledge on this area. What do any of you recommend?

Edit: I've joined this other forum (not a conspiracy related one), and one of the guys there says he's got multiple personalities, do you think this can occour without someone else (a mind controller) intentionally inducing it?
lenjento, CONGRATS!!!! I had a gf, who was a Skitzo Fergetzo. She was sexually abused as a child, by her father. She would change personalities in the middle of sex!!! READ Tranceformation of America by Cathy O'Brien! It will blow your tissues...GUARANTEED!!!! MIND CONTROL is probably the most important subject, of our time!!! To heal, we must understand it is ALL-PERVASIVE!!!

[lilly555]

Yesterday judge ruled that Britney's kids will continue to stay with KFED (her ex). :eek:

[nickatnoon61]

Yes, let us hope so. i am thinking that Kevin Federline is NOT her handler. I believe he is oblivious of the subject, but he does know or suspect that Britney is troubled and wants his kids so that they are not exposed to it. Could her handler be a producer or bodyguard?? And yes, it is possible that she has been breaking down her control. I feel she is trying to self-deprogram.

mountain, where does wishing and hoping stop....and REALITY start???? Of course, most of us wish the best for everyone, and we cannot accept the HORRORS THAT ARE REALITY!!! IT IS CALLED MK ULTRA and SRA!!!
.So we look the other way, and hope it goes away!!! BUT IT ISN'T GOING AWAY, until we collectively REALIZE this is rampant in our society. When a friend of mine said 80% of all women have been sexually abused BEFORE the age of 18, it did not shock me in the least. At the time, I was with a FRENCH CANADIAN(Catholic) GF,who grew up in a Catholic boarding school. She had ALL the symptoms of sexual abuse, (OCD on cleanliness) and others.This time around, I had already read "TRANCE" so I was prepared to deal with her.I had to be a dentist(pulling teeth) to get her to admit any problem. Towards the end, she almost admitted the abuse(she said it happened to her sister) There is an expression...ALMOST EVERYONE HAS BEEN SEXUALLY ABUSED...BUT YOU WILL NEVER MEET ONE!!!! I was raped at knifepoint, hitchhiking, by a black trucker,in Kalamazoo, Michigan, when I was 16. I DO NOT CARE WHO KNOWS IT EITHER!!! Is it just coincidence that C.O'Brien's abuse started, in the same area??? She is also around my age. NOW IF WE ALL CAME OUT OF THE CLOSET, WE WOULD UNDERSTAND IT IS RAMPANT!!!! We cannot solve any problem, until we recognize the problem first!!!

[shodan]

Mind controlled and smashed to bits by the disgusting world we currently live in.

Gleefully, we are making the change :D

Manifest

[mountain]

mountain, where does wishing and hoping stop....and REALITY start???? Of course, most of us wish the best for everyone, and we cannot accept the HORRORS THAT ARE REALITY!!! IT IS CALLED MK ULTRA and SRA!!!
.So we look the other way, and hope it goes away!!! BUT IT ISN'T GOING AWAY, until we collectively REALIZE this is rampant in our society. When a friend of mine said 80% of all women have been sexually abused BEFORE the age of 18, it did not shock me in the least. At the time, I was with a FRENCH CANADIAN(Catholic) GF,who grew up in a Catholic boarding school. She had ALL the symptoms of sexual abuse, (OCD on cleanliness) and others.This time around, I had already read "TRANCE" so I was prepared to deal with her.I had to be a dentist(pulling teeth) to get her to admit any problem. Towards the end, she almost admitted the abuse(she said it happened to her sister) There is an expression...ALMOST EVERYONE HAS BEEN SEXUALLY ABUSED...BUT YOU WILL NEVER MEET ONE!!!! I was raped at knifepoint, hitchhiking, by a black trucker,in Kalamazoo, Michigan, when I was 16. I DO NOT CARE WHO KNOWS IT EITHER!!! Is it just coincidence that C.O'Brien's abuse started, in the same area??? She is also around my age. NOW IF WE ALL CAME OUT OF THE CLOSET, WE WOULD UNDERSTAND IT IS RAMPANT!!!! We cannot solve any problem, until we recognize the problem first!!!

Sad but TRUE! Almost everyone I know has been molested or raped as a child, and I know alot of folks.

[deviadah]

The whole time I was like...WHO CARES??!!.

It's so blatant to me that they are puppets, I wish others could see that.
I'm glad I grew up around this to see Hollywood for what it really is.

So why post about it, and why is this thread so long? Ok I can see the validity of discussing mind control and pupeteering, but under a thread titled whor... I mean Britney Spears?

One does not need to live in Hollywood to perceive that celebrities are ratS (not Stars).

Next time don't serve her!

[nickatnoon61]

So why post about it, and why is this thread so long? Ok I can see the validity of discussing mind control and pupeteering, but under a thread titled whor... I mean Britney Spears?

One does not need to live in Hollywood to perceive that celebrities are ratS (not Stars).

Next time don't serve her!
deviant,
So why reply to this thread if it is so ridiculous? You are making it even loooooooooooooooooooonger, pal!
Britney Spears is a MK Ultra victim, who should be pitied, not scorned!!! BTW, I like your star reversal to....... ratS

[grover66]

Now I've just seen a headline about Britney being caught up in a "sex scandal" (http://breakingnews.iol.ie/entertainment/story.asp?j=233299112&p=z33z998y8)

It really does smack of somebody throwing absolutely everything they can at her to completely destroy her, which does make you wonder why!

[nickatnoon61]

Now I've just seen a headline about Britney being caught up in a "sex scandal" (http://breakingnews.iol.ie/entertainment/story.asp?j=233299112&p=z33z998y8)

It really does smack of somebody throwing absolutely everything they can at her to completely destroy her, which does make you wonder why!

Groover,to know why, read TRANCE by Cathy O'Brien. Maybe she has outlived her usefulness, and is being set up to be suicided?

[grover66]

Groover,to know why, read TRANCE by Cathy O'Brien. Maybe she has outlived her usefulness, and is being set up to be suicided?

Yeah, I should do. I've only recently heard of Cathy O'Brien and I've only watched a bit of a video presentation on YouTube of hers and read some various stuff about her on the Net. I'm sure you're right and I'm sure there is some pretty major plot afoot. It's all too strange.

[nickatnoon61]

Yeah, I should do. I've only recently heard of Cathy O'Brien and I've only watched a bit of a video presentation on YouTube of hers and read some various stuff about her on the Net. I'm sure you're right and I'm sure there is some pretty major plot afoot. It's all too strange.
It is, by far, the most shocking book I have ever read. Nothing in the National Enquirer, comes close to TRANCE!!!! TRUTH IS STRANGER THAN FICTION!!!

[mountain]

deviant,
So why reply to this thread if it is so ridiculous? You are making it even loooooooooooooooooooonger, pal!
Britney Spears is a MK Ultra victim, who should be pitied, not scorned!!! BTW, I like your star reversal to....... ratS

LOL Maybe devidah did not really read the contents posted here, otherwise that is cold and rather judgemental to label someone a whore and not know their story! That was not funny.

[mountain]

Have read Trance Formation, too. It's a shame that it is not available @ Barnes & Nobles. Do not waste time trying to order it through them, it will never arrive...

[mountain]

Now I've just seen a headline about Britney being caught up in a "sex scandal" (http://breakingnews.iol.ie/entertainment/story.asp?j=233299112&p=z33z998y8)

It really does smack of somebody throwing absolutely everything they can at her to completely destroy her, which does make you wonder why!

Nothing wrong with a little rump in the sack!

[nickatnoon61]

Sad but TRUE! Almost everyone I know has been molested or raped as a child, and I know alot of folks.

Yeah, like I said, everyone has a "friend or relative", who has been victimized, but NEVER themselves!!!! De Nile is not just a river in Egypt!!!!

[nickatnoon61]

Have read Trance Formation, too. It's a shame that it is not available @ Barnes & Nobles. Do not waste time trying to order it through them, it will never arrive...

So, did it make you angry,sad,depressed,suicidal, or
all of the above????:eek: I got my copy at an Icke talk in 1999, Vernon BC. I taped the local news before I left and when I got home, sure enough, the Icke interview with the media whores was on the tape. I was in the background, listening closely!

[mountain]

So, did it make you angry,sad,depressed,suicidal, or
all of the above????:eek: I got my copy at an Icke talk in 1999, Vernon BC. I taped the local news before I left and when I got home, sure enough, the Icke interview with the media whores was on the tape. I was in the background, listening closely!

I felt all of the above, but mostly grateful that she had the opportunity to share this horrific story. I had no idea that it was that complicated and well, now I realize it is much deeper than that.
She is a very smart and strong woman, Cathy is. Have you listened to her speak? And have you read Brice Taylor's book Thanks for the Memories? I would like to read that one but last I checked, it was very expensive.

[cheesedanish]

Yeah, like I said, everyone has a "friend or relative", who has been victimized, but NEVER themselves!!!! De Nile is not just a river in Egypt!!!!

Sorry to hear about your abuse Nick. Can you please tell me how do
you uncover the memory of sexual abuse? Of course it is supressed,
or is there a way to tell if someone has been abused? I am sure it's
complicated.

[nickatnoon61]

LOL Maybe devidah did not really read the contents posted here, otherwise that is cold and rather judgemental to label someone a whore and not know their story! That was not funny.
mountain, it is just that most don't understand what trauma-based SRA and MK Ultra is really about! There is NOTHING more horrifying,IMO!!! People don't know that these celebs are prisoners of their own minds, and really have nothing! Remember in TRANCE, when Cathy O'Brien was told, "even if you do escape, where are you going to go, and who are you going to tell? No-one will believe you, anyhow!"
Isn't that the truth?????

[mountain]

mountain, it is just that most don't understand what trauma-based SRA and MK Ultra is really about! There is NOTHING more horrifying,IMO!!! People don't know that these celebs are prisoners of their own minds, and really have nothing! Remember in TRANCE, when Cathy O'Brien was told, "even if you do escape, where are you going to go, and who are you going to tell? No-one will believe you, anyhow!"
Isn't that the truth?????

Yes & no. When I was abused at age 4, I went and snitched to my parents immediately afterwards! They never doubted me. But in cases like this, you have no family to run to because they are perps, too. This is extremely difficult, I know! Cathy and others like her are abused at such young age that they become accustomed to the abuse, and as a result they disassociate whenever it occurs. So they are unable to tell, because they TRULY have no recollection of it, until almost too late.
Cathy was I believe 30 when she started to deprogram, and she thought she was twenty-four.
Now that we have people like her speaking out, no matter what, there will always be someone to believe in them!

[asentinel]

Sorry to hear about your abuse Nick. Can you please tell me how do
you uncover the memory of sexual abuse? Of course it is supressed,
or is there a way to tell if someone has been abused? I am sure it's
complicated.

some signs are addictions, obsessive compulsive behaviours, easy dissociation, that is splitting off from reality, dysfunctional relationships, either co-dependence or aversion to intimacy, triggers such as birth of a child, death of a parent, or of perpetrator and sometimes this is same person, weird connections or reactions or aversions to certain seemingly ordinary things like food or clothing, sounds, depends on the age of the victim when it commenced, if they had access to language at the time, and if it stopped before they had that facility. Many, many variations.

Behaviours such as compulsive cutting and disfigurement of body, obsessive grooming, awareness about body image. Anexoria, bulemia, eating disorders, obesity. Do you get the picture? Basically self loathing and history of abusive partners, this may even be mainly verbal and emotional abuse. Abusive job situations. Attempted suicide. Friends in the "the club" also. Like attracts like.

Uneasy feelings, or unexplained body reactions to scenes in movies, sometimes panic attacks. Agrophobia. Acting young for their age. Emotionally stunted.

If same sex person involved, can pervert person into thinking they are gay also, but they may just be acting out.

For the record, I don't like the tone of the person who so proudly and voyeuristically reported on Britney early in this thread. Were you looking to score points? I have a heavy heart and am full of sympathy for this girl, just imagine how her family must feel, she has not had a real childhood. A lot of critics are only jealous of her appearance of success and fame and wealth. Envy is a dangerous thing. She is in a desperate state. Imagine if you were a parent and had a child like this, would you not be beside yourself. You would not be condemning her. Something disgusting has happened to her. The vultures are out ready to pick her bones.

Have some humanity. See those children of hers, she was once just like that!

[cheesedanish]

Thanks Asentinel - from what I have also read is also strange sexual
habits or interests. All these behaviours are of course unconscious!

Oh yes and I also read it affects 1 in 5 males/boys! Quite astounding!
They usually try to be very 'manly' and need to feel 'manly' by their
peers so get involved in gangs or theft - that sort of thing.

Yes you are right memories will find you - you
can throw something in the ocean, it will wash up on shore -
eventually, hopefully!

[alrick888]

Thanks Sentinel.
Those were sharp observations and I couldn't agree more with what you said on the original poster. Spot on!

I work in what you would call an abusive job situation and a lot of girls there fit those descriptions you gave exactly. They even act as if they like the job.

I myself dont remember abuse and don't understand why I get into these kinds of jobs.

[nickatnoon61]

Yes & no. When I was abused at age 4, I went and snitched to my parents immediately afterwards! They never doubted me. But in cases like this, you have no family to run to because they are perps, too. This is extremely difficult, I know! Cathy and others like her are abused at such young age that they become accustomed to the abuse, and as a result they disassociate whenever it occurs. So they are unable to tell, because they TRULY have no recollection of it, until almost too late.
Cathy was I believe 30 when she started to deprogram, and she thought she was twenty-four.
Now that we have people like her speaking out, no matter what, there will always be someone to believe in them!Thanx mountain,If ,today,you went to anyone, and said the President of the United States was raping/molesting you, they would put you in the loony bin,no? That is what I am talking about!

i have met some people who most would think are just plain crazy,but who
i feel,are SRA victims! It is a difficult topic to deal with as the mind is so mysterious/inexplicable, and there is no formal type training to heal this syndrome!

[indigo]

I have a feeling that she will prevail, and maybe share more details of her experience when she does. Like she mentioned in her that video, she knows she has missing time! Her shaving her head was definitely some sign of rebellion and a cry for help. This poor girl, was made to be a star, idolized by our childrean and degraded right in our faces!! Britney is strong! I have observed her old interviews and she has a strong spirit! Have faith that she will prevail!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yyfn2A-FBFYThat is really sad to watch. You can see she is quite forward at such a young age too.

[nickatnoon61]

Sorry to hear about your abuse Nick. Can you please tell me how do
you uncover the memory of sexual abuse? Of course it is supressed,
or is there a way to tell if someone has been abused? I am sure it's
complicated.
I have full memory of what happened to me, as it was a one time event. I am not posting this for sympathy, or attention. I want to know why, women (and men) who have been abused(and that is most of us) go into denial, or the memories are stuffed in the subconscious mind. We carry this emotional baggage around with us, and it prevents us from being the soveriegn/free/happy individuals we can be. Free from emotional addictions! Someone mentioned OCD,co-dependency, etc. These are all symptoms of sexual abuse, emotional abuse, physical abuse, etc. There is a fellow who is a friend of Icke, in my area who practices a technique , taken from the book, "Turning Upsets Into Energy" by John Mace. I went for one session and it does work, IMO. He can do the process over the phone also. There is no disclosure of abuse needed by the patient, either.

[eternal_spirit]

mountain, it is just that most don't understand what trauma-based SRA and MK Ultra is really about! There is NOTHING more horrifying,IMO!!! People don't know that these celebs are prisoners of their own minds, and really have nothing! Remember in TRANCE, when Cathy O'Brien was told, "even if you do escape, where are you going to go, and who are you going to tell? No-one will believe you, anyhow!"
Isn't that the truth?????

..............

Yes most people can't believe it's true, and others think no they wouldn't, couldn't do that, some will call you mad for believing this when you try and explain the concept. I had no problems myself understanding exactly how they do this SRA/MPD/DID It all adds up when you put the pieces of other research together.....Porno/snuff and all the other sick shit that goes with it.

Why the hell would Cathy make any of this up, she has nothing to gain as in fame and money as some would say.
I think it's very real......

[mountain]

..............

Yes most people can't believe it's true, and others think no they wouldn't, couldn't do that, some will call you mad for believing this when you try and explain the concept. I had no problems myself understanding exactly how they do this SRA/MPD/DID It all adds up when you put the pieces of other research together.....Porno/snuff and all the other sick shit that goes with it.

Why the hell would Cathy make any of this up, she has nothing to gain as in fame and money as some would say.
I think it's very real......

I am hoping that her daughter is recovering. Any news on that? She probably has some tale to tell.

[quelyn]

Have read Trance Formation, too. It's a shame that it is not available @ Barnes & Nobles. Do not waste time trying to order it through them, it will never arrive...
mountain,
You can order Cathy's books from her website [TRANCE008@hotmail.com]. She also wrote Access Denied with Mark Phillips. Another similar mind control story but a bit more low key is Song of Freedom [my journey from the Abyss] by Judith K. Moore. This book I believe I found by accident in Border's bookstore in California. I haven't found Brice's book Thanks for the Memories. However, how much more of this does one need to know. Already it is over the top in terror. The last thing I read was concerning one of the severe control techniques which involved threatening and actualy removing one or more eyes from a person [maybe returning]. That did it for me I know enough!
Quelyn
Britney needs our loving thoughts.

[eternal_spirit]

http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=-8864457841954131110&q=Cathy+O%27Brien&total=87&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=1

I don't know about her daughter but there is vids from Aug 2007

http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=-3762344960926032892&q=Cathy+O%27Brien&total=87&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=8
http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=-7112911567768563341&q=Cathy+O%27Brien&total=87&start=20&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=2

[nickatnoon61]

I am hoping that her daughter is recovering. Any news on that? She probably has some tale to tell.
mountain...nice boobs :D....erm...sorry I got distracted!!!:eek: Watch the morning show "Regis and Kelly". She is a classic example of how Cathy described a MK Ultra robot!!! Kelly is one of their fav names for the victims! Has Cathy's daughter,Kelly been recovered/rescued???? I thought she was still emprisoned by the CIA/govt.!

[eternal_spirit]

There are another 4 parts to the Aug 2007 vids but for some reason I can't post. Go to google or you tube if you wan't to watch the others type in ( Cathy O'Brien Trance Formation )

[nickatnoon61]

..............

Yes most people can't believe it's true, and others think no they wouldn't, couldn't do that, some will call you mad for believing this when you try and explain the concept. I had no problems myself understanding exactly how they do this SRA/MPD/DID It all adds up when you put the pieces of other research together.....Porno/snuff and all the other sick shit that goes with it.

Why the hell would Cathy make any of this up, she has nothing to gain as in fame and money as some would say.
I think it's very real......
EXACTLY, ES! The key is researching different topics, and seeing how it all ties in! Like a spider's web! After a while one gets a feeling of what is really going on, as we can see the veil of deception start to fade! But it can be frustrating when we have no-one to discuss these horrific topics with. That is why this forum is a GODSEND!!! :)

[smoking oceanus]

I was thinking the same about Kelly on the "Regis and Kelly Show". Kelly is like a total robot and that Regis guy totally creeps me out, he is a total pedo.

You should see the interview Regis and Kelly did with Harry Potter actress Emma Watson. She is still just a kid and Regis was acting totally sleezy and inappropriate towards her. Im surprised Regis didnt get busted for it.

[nickatnoon61]

I was thinking the same about Kelly on the "Regis and Kelly Show". Kelly is like a total robot and that Regis guy totally creeps me out, he is a total pedo.

You should see the interview Regis and Kelly did with Harry Potter actress Emma Watson. She is still just a kid and Regis was acting totally sleezy and inappropriate towards her. Im surprised Regis didnt get busted for it.

EXACTLY S.O., I WAS GOING TO MENTION SLEEZEBALL REGIS, and I get the same feeling about him!!! BIG TIME !!! Kathy-Lee the other co-host, has those spaced out looking eyes also, ala Natalie Wood(the only wood that doesn't float). "Who Wants To Be a Millionaire" is now filmed by Disneyworld, in Florida. It is a center for trauma-based mind control! Also notice how they use the lights and music on that show? It sedates , and opens the mind to suggestion, I am sure! You are on the ball!!!

[mountain]

I never did pay close attention to Regis & Kathy Lee, but remember how he seemed to drool over Kelly Ripa.

Yes there is another survivor that I have not read, Annie McKenna - Paperclip Dolls.
Also I have read a few books by adults who have recovered from child abuse and I have noticed that they all came from middle to upper class families and their father high military official.

[nickatnoon61]

I never did pay close attention to Regis & Kathy Lee, but remember how he seemed to drool over Kelly Ripa.

Yes there is another survivor that I have not read, Annie McKenna - Paperclip Dolls.
Also I have read a few books by adults who have recovered from child abuse and I have noticed that they all came from middle to upper class families and their father high military official.
Yes, mountain, that is another clue, as a lot of the programming goes on in military bases, above and below ground, also NASA. Most of the Manchurian Candidates have military connections(father, mother,handler, etc.) The Oct. after 911 Tommy Lasorda spoke before a baseball playoff game, calling the USA to war against Iraq. He was named in TRANCE, by O'Brien. Nolan Ryan, also did the same thing at another playoff game. He was named in the book also! Once we get a few names and clues we can get a picture of the whos and the whys! I believe ALL professional sports leagues are phoney and fixed also. It is a distraction for us and a $$$$maker for the elite scumbags!

[nickatnoon61]

some signs are addictions, obsessive compulsive behaviours, easy dissociation, that is splitting off from reality, dysfunctional relationships, either co-dependence or aversion to intimacy, triggers such as birth of a child, death of a parent, or of perpetrator and sometimes this is same person, weird connections or reactions or aversions to certain seemingly ordinary things like food or clothing, sounds, depends on the age of the victim when it commenced, if they had access to language at the time, and if it stopped before they had that facility. Many, many variations.

Behaviours such as compulsive cutting and disfigurement of body, obsessive grooming, awareness about body image. Anexoria, bulemia, eating disorders, obesity. Do you get the picture? Basically self loathing and history of abusive partners, this may even be mainly verbal and emotional abuse. Abusive job situations. Attempted suicide. Friends in the "the club" also. Like attracts like.

Uneasy feelings, or unexplained body reactions to scenes in movies, sometimes panic attacks. Agrophobia. Acting young for their age. Emotionally stunted.

If same sex person involved, can pervert person into thinking they are gay also, but they may just be acting out.

For the record, I don't like the tone of the person who so proudly and voyeuristically reported on Britney early in this thread. Were you looking to score points? I have a heavy heart and am full of sympathy for this girl, just imagine how her family must feel, she has not had a real childhood. A lot of critics are only jealous of her appearance of success and fame and wealth. Envy is a dangerous thing. She is in a desperate state. Imagine if you were a parent and had a child like this, would you not be beside yourself. You would not be condemning her. Something disgusting has happened to her. The vultures are out ready to pick her bones.

Have some humanity. See those children of hers, she was once just like that!
Asentinel , you are right on in your analysis. I experienced the aversion to intimacy from a GF. She also wouldnt let me see her naked. THAT DROVE ME NUTS UNTIL I PULLED THE COVERS OFF AND TURNED THE LIGHTS ON!!! haha She was really messed up from her French Catholic background, and sexual abuse. They are like superstitious,ignorant,backward, hillbillies!!!! The CONTROL the church has, is phenominal!

[whitelightrabbit]

you guys are really on a roll here. i don't have much to add except that i think most pop stars are MK victims and a lot of hollywood stars too. bang on about regis... total creep and kelly/kathy are both too weird to be not MK victims. good point about the military, of course they are masters at MK, so why wouldn't they do it to the children at the bases.

I believe ALL professional sports leagues are phoney and fixed also. It is a distraction for us and a $$$$maker for the elite scumbags!

i've been thinking the same for a while. there is so much money at stake regarding professional sports that of course it's corrupted by the people who have to gain.

[nickatnoon61]

you guys are really on a roll here. i don't have much to add except that i think most pop stars are MK victims and a lot of hollywood stars too. bang on about regis... total creep and kelly/kathy are both too weird to be not MK victims. good point about the military, of course they are masters at MK, so why wouldn't they do it to the children at the bases.



i've been thinking the same for a while. there is so much money at stake regarding professional sports that of course it's corrupted by the people who have to gain.
THANX WABBIT, there is a military presence at most sporting events nowadays, and national anthems make me want to vomit, when I see the drones go into a patriotic trance!!! It's refreshing to know others can see what I see!

[raffles]

I often think tiger woods could be a mk victim, we was been promoted as "could be the greatest golfer of all time" before he even turned pro.

[eternal_spirit]

I have a friend who works with celebs, including Tiger in the past, other famous sportsmen and some singers ( not Britney ) he's never said anything about mind control, he could be controlled himself...I will ask him what he thinks about it all, give me a few weeks.

[cheesedanish]

I have full memory of what happened to me, as it was a one time event. I am not posting this for sympathy, or attention. I want to know why, women (and men) who have been abused(and that is most of us) go into denial, or the memories are stuffed in the subconscious mind. We carry this emotional baggage around with us, and it prevents us from being the soveriegn/free/happy individuals we can be. Free from emotional addictions! Someone mentioned OCD,co-dependency, etc. These are all symptoms of sexual abuse, emotional abuse, physical abuse, etc. There is a fellow who is a friend of Icke, in my area who practices a technique , taken from the book, "Turning Upsets Into Energy" by John Mace. I went for one session and it does work, IMO. He can do the process over the phone also. There is no disclosure of abuse needed by the patient, either.

Thanks Nick again you are very wise - I am going to order this book it sounds
fantastic. What I understand the trauma of the event - say abuse - if this happens in childhood - it creates an emotional block and the memory is supressed - the energy does not flow and can
cause disease and emotional problems?
So when you have disease manifest you can operate but you won't
remove the cause - which is the emotion - and it can only heal once brought
out of the subconscious?

[eat_a_grey]

Its probably allready been pointed out more than once,but it sure seems like the MSM REALLY wants to keep her (spears)in the publics eye no matter what the cost.

I really cant remember a day when I opened up CNN's website to check the fake news,and sure enough,there is some article about her.

Its also well known that Robert Duvall is a HUGE prowar/rebuplican figure.

I dont think that they(the actors/other famous types) are MK-Ultra in the true sense,I do think that the majority of them are tools though.

BUT Nolan Ryan? Get outta here..

Something that may not be as well known,is that some of the local pro football players (Matt Hasslebeck and Mack Strong) went to see George Bush at some rally several weeks ago when Bush was here in the Seattle area,and even gave him a custom made jersery,those players really got ate alive in our local media,and they still are.

[asentinel]

Thanks Nick again you are very wise - I am going to order this book it sounds
fantastic. What I understand the trauma of the event - say abuse - if this happens in childhood - it creates an emotional block and the memory is supressed - the energy does not flow and can
cause disease and emotional problems?
So when you have disease manifest you can operate but you won't
remove the cause - which is the emotion - and it can only heal once brought
out of the subconscious?

I think it depends on the circumstances, nature of abuse, number of occasions, age of the victim, and capability to understand what has taken place, language skills, emotional maturity, level of terror, pain, substance abuse. It is a set of items.

I think some people don't have the capacity to understand what is taking place and those things must be buried deeply. What if fully or partially under sedation? Just think about the opportunities in hospitals, when people are in and out of consciousness due to anaesthetic. Dental procedures also. I had a friend who was an adult (ex army), male dental surgeon attacked him while sedated, and he woke up with all his clothes ripped. He fought the guy off but does not know fully what happened.

Children I think can try to protect themselves especially if it is a parent. So they go into denial to avoid feeling that this so called care giver could be such a monster. It is unthinkable. Heard of Stockholm syndrome? If they have no possibility of escape or defence, how would the mind cope? They then try to protect the perpetrator, so the denial serves a purpose. It is to avoid losing their minds I think, because they cannot live with two conflicting realities. If there is threat of death or harm from the speaking of the abuse, then the personality can shatter, start to have separate realities and then some of these parts may or may not know about the other parts. Time and age distortion can happen easily, can't you see how.

Nick, thanks for being brave and gutsy and honest. Hopefully we can help others to heal. Gathering in all the lost bits of one's psyche is important to know and accept oneself fully. I think this feature is part of the energy work you experienced.

Unless people come out into the open, even only to themselves, we don't have a chance of stopping it continuing.

I watched Cathy O'Brien presentation on u-tube. The picture was not clear but I was scared by the appearance of her eyes. They looked like the eyes of former heavy drug users, where all the colour has drained out of the pupils. It is a miracle she has "come back" to tell the story.

Power to you!

Should we open a thread "healing room", where anyone can receive the energy of positive and healings thoughts focussed without judgment.??

[asentinel]

Asentinel , you are right on in your analysis. I experienced the aversion to intimacy from a GF. She also wouldnt let me see her naked. THAT DROVE ME NUTS UNTIL I PULLED THE COVERS OFF AND TURNED THE LIGHTS ON!!! haha She was really messed up from her French Catholic background, and sexual abuse. They are like superstitious,ignorant,backward, hillbillies!!!! The CONTROL the church has, is phenominal![/QUOTE]

Nick, because the personal boundaries have been damaged, quite often people fluctuate between allowing everybody in indiscriminately, (no discernment), inappropriate closeness, usually can include the worst choices of intimacy, and the other extreme, which is lacking confidence and trust to the degree that all seem a threat. Often these two conflicting stances can almost simultaneously exist. You see victims can have a scary ability of being able to handle conflicting realities and glaring inconsistencies. Do "we" handle the concept of parallel dimensions more easily???

There must be at least one benefit!

Unfortunately any intensely held "belief", dogma is like clinging to a sinking ship in the face of progressive thinking, hence the need to protect at all costs the inconsistencies, and so a perfect hot-house environment for other forms of denial and covert activity.

The lie starts with the first slip of "NOT SEEING, WHAT YOU SEE"!!

This is the entry point of evil! Making the "speaking of truth", politically incorrect, "an agreed upon reality", regardless of anyone's better judgment or intuition! Aint that where it starts???

Support.

[deviadah]

deviant,
So why reply to this thread if it is so ridiculous? You are making it even loooooooooooooooooooonger, pal!
Britney Spears is a MK Ultra victim, who should be pitied, not scorned!!! BTW, I like your star reversal to....... ratS
Oh I read everything backwards... one can find many funny and truthful things there...

Best one: Evian (the water brand)!

Anyways, she doesn't need any pity... And it's pointless to focus so much on her. She is not important. She is just a public whore along with most MTV people. By focusing on her you are spending a lot of energy and THAT IS WHAT THEY WANT! Don't watch TV!!! Ignore them.

I think there has been a lot of brainwashings but most celebrities on TV are not brainwashed in the sense you speak of. How do I know this? Because they don't need to be. It is enough to show them the money and they'll do whatever they are told.

Money is an easier tool than any brainwashing drug or machine. Why complicate things. Then the TV is the best brainwashing machine for the masses!

[synergy777]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/showbiz/showbiznews.html?in_article_id=485831&in_page_id=1773

Britney on the brink: New fears as singer publicly breaks down

[mountain]

Oh I read everything backwards... one can find many funny and truthful things there...

Best one: Evian (the water brand)!

Anyways, she doesn't need any pity... And it's pointless to focus so much on her. She is not important. She is just a public whore along with most MTV people. By focusing on her you are spending a lot of energy and THAT IS WHAT THEY WANT! Don't watch TV!!! Ignore them.

I think there has been a lot of brainwashings but most celebrities on TV are not brainwashed in the sense you speak of. How do I know this? Because they don't need to be. It is enough to show them the money and they'll do whatever they are told.

Money is an easier tool than any brainwashing drug or machine. Why complicate things. Then the TV is the best brainwashing machine for the masses!


I think what Nick meant was to show compassion for them, and not to degrade them anymore than what the media is doing. And by the way, this thread issn't focused just on Britney Spears. Excellent info on this topic on mind control and MKULTRA.

I remember reading that alot of celebs do not even have the power to withdraw money from their accounts. Do not be fooled by all the so-called glitz and glamour! That is a cover. I suggest that you do more research into the matter.

[nickatnoon61]

Thanks Nick again you are very wise - I am going to order this book it sounds
fantastic. What I understand the trauma of the event - say abuse - if this happens in childhood - it creates an emotional block and the memory is supressed - the energy does not flow and can
cause disease and emotional problems?
So when you have disease manifest you can operate but you won't
remove the cause - which is the emotion - and it can only heal once brought
out of the subconscious?

Right on Cheesey!!! You got it!!! It's like a weight that is attached to us, keeping us from liftoff!!! When I had a session done I felt lighter!!! I need a few hundred more sessions tho!!! ha ha Check anything on the net on that subject. EFT is supposed to be effective also.

[nickatnoon61]

Its probably allready been pointed out more than once,but it sure seems like the MSM REALLY wants to keep her (spears)in the publics eye no matter what the cost.

I really cant remember a day when I opened up CNN's website to check the fake news,and sure enough,there is some article about her.

Its also well known that Robert Duvall is a HUGE prowar/rebuplican figure.

I dont think that they(the actors/other famous types) are MK-Ultra in the true sense,I do think that the majority of them are tools though.

BUT Nolan Ryan? Get outta here..

Something that may not be as well known,is that some of the local pro football players (Matt Hasslebeck and Mack Strong) went to see George Bush at some rally several weeks ago when Bush was here in the Seattle area,and even gave him a custom made jersery,those players really got ate alive in our local media,and they still are. eat a grey...get a grip!! ha ha Nolan Ryan is also a rich Texas bankster. Until you research MK Ultra, SRA, and topics in that area, you will remain a skeptic. Mind Control has always been around. There are supposedly millions out there! Read Springmeier's stuff also.I have a personal friend who has, as a child,has been raped by Mulroney and co., so don't try to convince me is does not exist, or it is minimal, at best!!!!

[nickatnoon61]

I think what Nick meant was to show compassion for them, and not to degrade them anymore than what the media is doing. And by the way, this thread issn't focused just on Britney Spears. Excellent info on this topic on mind control and MKULTRA.

I remember reading that alot of celebs do not even have the power to withdraw money from their accounts. Do not be fooled by all the so-called glitz and glamour! That is a cover. I suggest that you do more research into the matter.
THANX mountain....:p If these skeptics knew the horrors and extreme trauma MK Ultras have gone thru, to shatter their minds, they would be a little more compassionate and understanding.There is even a mainstream book written by a maid, who says Marilyn Monroe was a recluse and not allowed out socially! Also I remember watching a talk show and Marilu Henner came on and talked about her "photographic memory", which all MKs have because their "doctors" cauterize the brain stem. She is also red-haired blue-eyed, like most of them.

[mountain]

THANX mountain....:p If these skeptics knew the horrors and extreme trauma MK Ultras have gone thru, to shatter their minds, they would be a little more compassionate and understanding.There is even a mainstream book written by a maid, who says Marilyn Monroe was a recluse and not allowed out socially! Also I remember watching a talk show and Marilu Henner came on and talked about her "photographic memory", which all MKs have because their "doctors" cauterize the brain stem. She is also red-haired blue-eyed, like most of them.

I agree with you! I am beginning to wonder if there are people visiting this site just to distract and steer others away, but if so, I could care less... MOVING ON!!
So, right i have come across that info on Marilyn, too! And there are others I have in mind.

[julieray]

I was reading BriansPrediction.com a month or so ago and one of his predictions was that Britney was to commit suicide before Christmas :(

It seems that she is well on her way to this, it is a shame she has noone around her who is strong enough to help her get back on her feet. Where are her parents for God's sake??? Surely there must be someone "normal" close to her, or don't they give a shit??

[nickatnoon61]

I was reading BriansPrediction.com a month or so ago and one of his predictions was that Britney was to commit suicide before Christmas :(

It seems that she is well on her way to this, it is a shame she has noone around her who is strong enough to help her get back on her feet. Where are her parents for God's sake??? Surely there must be someone "normal" close to her, or don't they give a shit??
I am no psychic,(maybe psychotic,tho he he} Julieray, but I said that on an earlier post! When one has some inside info, it is easier to predict these things.

[nickatnoon61]

Asentinel , you are right on in your analysis. I experienced the aversion to intimacy from a GF. She also wouldnt let me see her naked. THAT DROVE ME NUTS UNTIL I PULLED THE COVERS OFF AND TURNED THE LIGHTS ON!!! haha She was really messed up from her French Catholic background, and sexual abuse. They are like superstitious,ignorant,backward, hillbillies!!!! The CONTROL the church has, is phenominal!

Nick, because the personal boundaries have been damaged, quite often people fluctuate between allowing everybody in indiscriminately, (no discernment), inappropriate closeness, usually can include the worst choices of intimacy, and the other extreme, which is lacking confidence and trust to the degree that all seem a threat. Often these two conflicting stances can almost simultaneously exist. You see victims can have a scary ability of being able to handle conflicting realities and glaring inconsistencies. Do "we" handle the concept of parallel dimensions more easily???

There must be at least one benefit!

Unfortunately any intensely held "belief", dogma is like clinging to a sinking ship in the face of progressive thinking, hence the need to protect at all costs the inconsistencies, and so a perfect hot-house environment for other forms of denial and covert activity.

The lie starts with the first slip of "NOT SEEING, WHAT YOU SEE"!!

This is the entry point of evil! Making the "speaking of truth", politically incorrect, "an agreed upon reality", regardless of anyone's better judgment or intuition! Aint that where it starts???

Support.[/QUOTE]
Yes, I was with another sexually abused GF who was the opposite. She was aware of her abuse(by her father)She was very promiscuous,also, rather than shy!

[quelyn]

I was reading BriansPrediction.com a month or so ago and one of his predictions was that Britney was to commit suicide before Christmas :(

It seems that she is well on her way to this, it is a shame she has noone around her who is strong enough to help her get back on her feet. Where are her parents for God's sake??? Surely there must be someone "normal" close to her, or don't they give a shit??
julieray,

Britney has denied her parents visitation with her children. [before she lost them] AND news media states she doesn't want her parents around her. Perhaps, she blames them..............

[whitelightrabbit]

Thanks Nick again you are very wise - I am going to order this book it sounds
fantastic. What I understand the trauma of the event - say abuse - if this happens in childhood - it creates an emotional block and the memory is supressed - the energy does not flow and can
cause disease and emotional problems?
So when you have disease manifest you can operate but you won't
remove the cause - which is the emotion - and it can only heal once brought
out of the subconscious?

that john mace stuff sounds very interesting. i'm going to get the book sometime. i looked it up on wiki and it sounds similar to what i am studying: 'jin shin do' which is a synthesis of traditional japanese finger pressure, chinese acupuncture theory, and western psychology. we hold all emotional issues in our bodies and this type of massage helps unleash it so we can heal. look for a local practitioner here: http://www.jinshindo.org/teacherspractitionersworldwide.htm

[eat_a_grey]

dude,relax,I am fully aware of MKULTRA,I have probably read the same books as you about it and saw the same documentaries,listened to the same lectures about it ect.We all know it exists,hell even the CIA/FBI/THEY have admitted it,so thats not the point.

Im not trying to discredit what your saying at all,remember Im on your side here :D

I am just not fully convinced she is an MK-Ultra project.Some other project undoubtedly.

[nickatnoon61]

dude,relax,I am fully aware of MKULTRA,I have probably read the same books as you about it and saw the same documentaries,listened to the same lectures about it ect.We all know it exists,hell even the CIA/FBI/THEY have admitted it,so thats not the point.

Im not trying to discredit what your saying at all,remember Im on your side here :D

I am just not fully convinced she is an MK-Ultra project.Some other project undoubtedly. Thanx EAG, I may be too defensive sometimes! It is because I get a lot of negative feedback from fluoridated left-brain drones who know nothing about anything!
I am responding to your comment about Nolan Ryan. Why do you have a problem about him, being a possible MKUltra? Read this, I posted it last month....Tinny, after reading "Trance" and getting some names from the book, I began to be more watchful of these creeps! Just after 911, I was watching the baseball playoffs, and as usual the "talking head" on the big screen, at the stadium, was GWB. But just after that, Nolan Ryan(MENTIONED IN THE BOOK) was coercing the people to go to war with Iraq, also. Well, Ryan is a Hall of Famer, but more importantly, he is also an Illuminati bankster in Texas. At another game fatboy Tommy Lasorda (also named in the book) did the same thing, calling the U.S. to war! It makes me almost physically sick when they mix their effin propaganda with a sporting event.When they play the national anthem, I turn the channel til it is over with! I watch sports to "escape" from this BS, but there is no escape anymore...at least on the BOOB tube!!! These anthems put people in a MIND-CONTROLLED trance...BIG TIME!!!

[eat_a_grey]

well,tbh I am a big sports fan :o and I am 'older' so I grew up watching Nolan play,I have to admit this guy was one hellova pitcher.

Is he Illuminati?Probably,he was on Tex Rangers when Bush owned them,but I keep thinking of that fight he got into w/Robin Ventura :eek: :D

http://special.tomorrowpictures.tv/uploaded_images/ryan_ventura-774801.jpg

All of that being said,Mk Ultra is used for more sinister operations (I can only speculate of course,more of an 'educated guess') But see,Charles Whitman,Mark David Chapman,Jim Jones,Sirhan Sirhan,I think are some of the more evil and real uses of MK Ultra.

Again,for sure Spears et.al are tools,manipulated for what ever reason to deviate and dumb down the masses,but then again,anything is possible and only 'they' know the truth.

[nickatnoon61]

well,tbh I am a big sports fan :o and I am 'older' so I grew up watching Nolan play,I have to admit this guy was one hellova pitcher.

Is he Illuminati?Probably,he was on Tex Rangers when Bush owned them,but I keep thinking of that fight he got into w/Robin Ventura :eek: :D

http://special.tomorrowpictures.tv/uploaded_images/ryan_ventura-774801.jpg

All of that being said,Mk Ultra is used for more sinister operations (I can only speculate of course,more of an 'educated guess') But see,Charles Whitman,Mark David Chapman,Jim Jones,Sirhan Sirhan,I think are some of the more evil and real uses of MK Ultra.

Again,for sure Spears et.al are tools,manipulated for what ever reason to deviate and dumb down the masses,but then again,anything is possible and only 'they' know the truth.
EAG, baseball is a girls game anyhow! :eek:I grew up playing and watching hockey, like a true Canucklehead!!! :D All professional/college sports are fixed anyhow, but I still root for the Cubs,Blackhawks,Bears,Sox, like the idiot I am!!!:eek: OK, did you see the series when the W.Sox beat Father Bush's team, a few years ago in the playoffs. I watched it in Hi-Def, The moment his team was knocked out, the camera panned on him, in the stands,and I thought I saw him shape-shift a little. He was really pissed/angry! I wish I had of taped it!!!

[julieray]

I am no psychic,(maybe psychotic,tho he he} Julieray, but I said that on an earlier post! When one has some inside info, it is easier to predict these things.

Sorry Nick I didn't realise this had been said already, I only briefed over the posts! Perhaps I should go back through and read them properly.:o

[deviadah]

I suggest that you do more research into the matter.
I do a hell of a lot of research, don't think you know it all - even I don't think that. All I am saying is concentrate on things of greater importance than ratS... if anything they want you to be occupied with this crap. Just ignore it. For every second you spend thinking on for example Britney Spears is another second lost in oblivion. It won't grant you any enlightenment... but don't take my word for it.

Spend a week thinking and studying this crap, and then spend a week studying and thinking on yourself or on some other great knowledge and see which week gave you the most mental power!

[mountain]

I do a hell of a lot of research, don't think you know it all - even I don't think that. All I am saying is concentrate on things of greater importance than ratS... if anything they want you to be occupied with this crap. Just ignore it. For every second you spend thinking on for example Britney Spears is another second lost in oblivion. It won't grant you any enlightenment... but don't take my word for it.

Spend a week thinking and studying this crap, and then spend a week studying and thinking on yourself or on some other great knowledge and see which week gave you the most mental power!

Ooooh, I love the feisty ones! Why so angry and defensive! I am sure you have been doing your research, that is great. And I do mines... Sorry but my heart and my mind will not agree to ignoring the suffering of anybody. Never said I knew it all! Do you think I know it all? Maybe I do.

As an enlightened being, I "think on myself and other great knowledge" and I "think and study this crap" simutaneously. I multi-task. You should try it. That's great, too.

[eat_a_grey]

For every second you spend thinking on for example Britney Spears is another second lost in oblivion.


Bravo!!Well said!!

--
Nick Im sure you saw the video of Bush getting caught while in the stands, watching a game and picking his nose.Classic

49er,Giants/A's,Warriors fan here :rolleyes:

[mountain]

For every second you spend thinking on for example Britney Spears is another second lost in oblivion.

I Love to think that she is WAKING up!!

[deviadah]

Multi-tasks is not a problem... and I understand your stand, but understand mine; she is not suffering.... there are worse victims in the world that need your attention more. A few million of them live in the forgotten land/war of Congo!

[eat_a_grey]

Yes,and thats a reason why she is force fed down the populace's throats.

Prime example of the dumbing down of America.

Anymore the entertainment industry is a sham.

[nickatnoon61]

Bravo!!Well said!!

--
Nick Im sure you saw the video of Bush getting caught while in the stands, watching a game and picking his nose.Classic

49er,Giants/A's,Warriors fan here :rolleyes:
So you are a Bay Boy,eh???? Yep, Father Bush, had half his right claw up his nose!!!! :eek:

[nickatnoon61]

dude,relax,I am fully aware of MKULTRA,I have probably read the same books as you about it and saw the same documentaries,listened to the same lectures about it ect.We all know it exists,hell even the CIA/FBI/THEY have admitted it,so thats not the point.

Im not trying to discredit what your saying at all,remember Im on your side here :D

I am just not fully convinced she is an MK-Ultra project.Some other project undoubtedly. So EAG, what other PROJECT would that be???? Should we just talk semantics here?This is not a subject that is black or white, as you know. For those who are a little more sensitive, or aware, and have a "feeling" something is terribly amiss in our society ,MK Ultra could explain that. For the rest of the so-called intellectual/left-brained masses it is obvious they are too far gone in THEIR OWN programming to even consider it exists. I KNOW A PERSONAL VICTIM OF SRA, SO IT BECOMES VERY REAL FOR ME! But trying to "convince" the fluoridated brains to even consider this, is like pulling teeth! That is ok, because I understand it is "the nature of the beast"! But when creeps like neutron flux come out and insult me and my years of research on this subject, that is where I draw the line! I expect very few to agree with me,on this subject, but there is a difference in disagreeing and insulting one's intelligence! cheers buddy, and GO CUBBIES!!!!!

[nickatnoon61]

I Love to think that she is WAKING up!!
Deviant said:
Multi-tasks is not a problem... and I understand your stand, but understand mine; she is not suffering.... there are worse victims in the world that need your attention more. A few million of them live in the forgotten land/war of Congo!
Nick said:
MOUNTAIN, deviant is obviously not clued in to trauma-based MK Ultra, so why debate with someone, who is probably well-intentioned, but has not a clue of what we are talking about? If he was open to learn about it, that would be different, but you will get to know who the "energy-vampires" are on here, after awhile, and learn to move on, and spend time with those who appreciate your words of wisdom! :)

[father ted]

For every second you spend thinking on for example Britney Spears is another second lost in oblivion.

Then how did you end up on this thread:confused::D

I agree with you that you shouldn't do too much research on subjects within the conspiracy that aren't THAT important. It's important to understand mind control which will lead you to celebrities and it's important to understand how they are used as programming (as well as to distance your personal aspects/characteristics from yourself and disassociate them from each other IMO), but once you understand the concept, it's time to move one, keeping what you've learned in mind.

It's like 9/11 and boring politics - GET OVER IT - MOVE ON, leave the info up for the newbies and move on for goodness sake.

[eternal_spirit]

It's not just the likes of Britney that's under MK ultra control and the likes of...people you know maybe and even you yourself could be a mind controlled victim and not even know it. So Britney and the whole subject is more relevant than most realise.

It's obvious some haven't done their homework.

[eternal_spirit]

Those involve with satanism ( who think it's just about worshipping yourself and being human WAKE UP!) and other religions are most at risk.