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uchiha
13-08-2007, 06:20 AM
Salvia
Mushrooms
DMT or Ayajusca


First

Salvia - i am not very educated on it however from what i know it sounds like a lesser form of digested DMT.. is their dmt molecules in this plant? What can you tell me

Mushrooms - ive always felt mushrooms were for dirtbag kinda teenagers looking to just get high.....insight?

DMT i live in toronto canada and i dont have a CLUE on how i can obtain it or the ayajuasca tea brew

please im looking for help from people with real information on these or others.

Note - i wish to take strictly for spiritual / enlightening purposes

auron
13-08-2007, 06:27 AM
http://www.erowid.org (http://www.erowid.org/)

barbitone
13-08-2007, 08:43 AM
Auron knows what he's talking about.:D

uchiha
13-08-2007, 06:14 PM
ya sorry i was looking for more of a personal insight then just copying a link
Im not looking for the textbook description im looking for advice personal experience as it relates or doesnt to what im looking for

and tips on where you can get them within your own country or city

freedomnonfighter
13-08-2007, 11:19 PM
Salvia - Interdimensional if you ask me. I've done salvia many times. One word = Strange. It's quite an experience. Everything around you becomes a part of you. You become sort of dissociated from your ego, as you don't really recognize things right away- you could be staring at a car and be like 'what the hell is that thing?'. The first few, or many, times you do salvia you won't have any control over your experience. But, for me, the more I did it and experimented with it the more I was able to control the experience, and move it in a positive direction. Many people are utterly frightened of Salvia. Fear of the unknown I guess.

A friend of mine smoked it and stood up, and she says that as she stood up everything in the room floated up with her above the ground. A friend of mine did it - we were all sitting around a table together - and he witnessed us change as the history of the world progressed. We appeared to him as people from the stone age, to the middle ages, to the future.

I've had some awesome experiences with salvia. One time I was in a little sand bar in the middle of the woods. It was just about a 60-yard radius area of sand, we had off-roaded in a jeep to get there. We each went to our own little areas and smoked. When I smoked it, the car's headlights were on. I stood staring at that headlight for a minute... not a thought, just staring. I looked down, and saw the print of my foot in the sand. I looked at the shadows cast inside the footprint, then I looked at my foot, and became my foot. I thought I was my foot. As it wore down, we all headed for the car, but I smoked one more time outside the car while they were all inside. A few seconds after I smoked it, I slowly got in the jeep. It was the same model Jeep as in Jurassic Park. And the salvia hit me big time as soon as I got the car. I looked out the window and saw what must have been hundreds of dinosaurs emanating from the woods. They were running, all of them, at a high speed... and right for us. As they got within about 10 feet of the car they disappeared, and reappeared on the other side, continuing back into the woods. I was in the car the whole time yelling DINOSAURS DRIVE DINOSAURS DRIVE DINOSAURS DRIVE... and one friend was just staring at me, bewildered, the others were just laughing hysterically.

When smoking Salvia, and with friends: Do it in a calm, quiet environment. When someone is smoking salvia, do not harrass them at all... do not be in a stressful, exciting environment when you do salvia. You don't want many people around. And you especially don't want people to be staring at you while you are on it... when you're on salvia, you ability to become completely paranoid can be almost instantaneous.

For me, salvia is fun to do, and amazing to experience. I use it very rarely, and only for artistic purposes... as you really don't grasp any life-changing realizations on salvia... other than there is much much more to life than the norm says.

I would NOT recommend smoking salvia while already on a psychedelic.

Mushrooms - This is what you're looking for, basically. I don't even know where to begin... Mushroom use predates our recorded history. I'd recommend mushrooms to anyone [who doesn't have any form of schizophrenia]. Mushrooms are my favorite 'drug' (outside of cannabis) - there's virtually no end to what you can learn and experience just from eating some Holy Shit.
On mushrooms I 'transcended' space, time, and causality, and experienced a state of complete oneness, love, and all-knowing-ness... exactly what David Icke, Bill Hicks, and people throughout history have been describing.

If you plan on going out to pick some mushrooms, do your research before you do. And a lot of research. I'd recommend the book "Shroom: A Cultural History of the Magic Mushroom" by Andy Letcher.

Most of those 'dirtbag teenagers' you referred to... I have a few friends I guess that would fall into that category, though I wouldn't use those terms. They eat mushrooms just to see crazy stuff, and get a rush, and get a sense of mystery in their lives... to keep themselves interested in something. For instance, they'll eat mushrooms and go to a theme park. Wtf mate? When I eat mushrooms, I lay my body on the floor... or go outside with nature... or play guitar (creativity) ... not go on a rollercoaster as a quick fix for a lack of excitement in my life. That's not what the psychedelic experience is for. The psychedelic experience, if you ask me, is just an 'out-of-this-world' form of meditation. You can reach those states of being via meditation without aids such as mushrooms or psychedelics... but they are just a 'quick route' so to speak.

LSD is quite similar to Psilocybin (mushrooms)... though I've grown to not trust LSD. It's not necessarily natural (my main turn-off) ... not to mention the mind control use and experimentation with primarily LSD.

When you're on these 'drugs' - all that you are experiencing is your mind. That's it. It's more of an obvious and pronounced form of the world we experience day in and day out... a projection / reflection of ourselves.

DMT / Ayahuasca - Never done it... I would love to try it though, oh my goodness. Definately read DMT: The Spirit Molecule by Dr. Rick Strassman.

You can order ayahuasca kits online. You can also order mushrooms kits online.

I'd recommend watching The Pharmacratic Inquisition on googlevideo for a lot of insights into mushrooms / psychedelic experience in relation to the origins of religion and all the symbolism in between and beyond.

But definately visit and explore www.Erowid.org - great website for drug information. Everything from the effects, to personal accounts, to dosages, etc etc.

Note - i wish to take strictly for spiritual / enlightening purposes

Good :) That's the whole point :D

uchiha
14-08-2007, 12:35 AM
Can anyone confirm or offer more insight?

Im not completely ignorant. i just feel theres always more to learn

has anyone experienced instances where they could purchase this stuff without being on a south american continent?

i mean. is their places that will sell you it? like.. bong stores Or.

I mean i dont really know

auron
14-08-2007, 04:04 AM
http://www.everyonedoesit.co.uk/online_headshop/ :D

auron
14-08-2007, 04:09 AM
Spend a lot of time researching these sacred gifts first, before trying them! :)

You will see why...;)

uchiha
14-08-2007, 05:23 AM
hey man.. Auron

Thank you very much man.. it seems like i can purchase the brew ingredients here and much more

Again thank you again and i will use with great caution :) thanks again

auron
14-08-2007, 05:41 AM
Cool mate! Just give us a shout if you need to know anything else specific. :)

eat_a_grey
17-08-2007, 06:36 PM
I 'explore' my consciousness all the time.I am fortunate enough to live in an area where there are an abundance of mushrooms that grow wild.The 'good' kind grows literally in my back yard.

While there are kits you can buy to grow your own mushrooms,this takes alot of patience to get it right.

Salvia,at least here in the USA for now you can get it at most head shops.Mild trip.

DMT/Ayahuasca is pretty strong stuff.I have a friend that lives in South America and he sends me the plants I need to make my own brew now and then.Be prepared to not only see god,but to become god for a while.Nothing is really quite like it.

LSD anymore its hard (at least in my area) to find good stuff,and I have not taken any good stuff in many years.I wont even take it anymore UNLESS its from a very trustworthy source.BUT if you get some good stuff,Enjoy!

Back to shrooms a bit,since this is my area of expertise,MAKE sure you know what your taking,you eat the wrong one,and you will die.

Now there are different potency's of shrooms,say liberty caps have a smaller amount of psilocybin than say azurescens i.e you can eat say 10 liberty caps and get a mild buzz but you eat 10 azurescens your going to have a major trip.

Again as with all of these things,be very careful what you take,and my major suggestion is that you take them with friends you trust in a very relaxed atmosphere,and if worst comes to worst and you think your having a bad trip,try to remember that its only a drug,and the effects WILL wear off.Maybe have a couple of valiums near by as well.

Enjoy your trip!! You wont regret it!Oh and have some early Pink Floyd and some Shpongle ready for your ears!