Berlin to Warsaw in one tank: joke Clarkson advert

[steppewar]

I watched this episode of "Top Gear" and thought it was quite funny.

Obviously the 'Joke Police' did not agree.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1204253/Jeremy-Clarkson-upsets-Germans-sparks-complaints-Polish-World-War-II-joke.html

[synergy777]

clarkson is a legend, the political correct brigade, need to get over themselves, they are deluded and see themselves as improtant.

i personally like james may, he is my type of personality, a english geek, lol.

james does the best shows, he even did a series on beer, awesome.

[choice]

Brilliant :D

Off the record, i also recommend Clarkson's books! Incredibly amusing. :p

[diaphos]

Very funny

[decim]

Get a sense of humour you pc dolts.

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2009/08/04/article-1204253-05F30299000005DC-86_468x286.jpg

[konik]

IMHO Clarkson is a ME-dia construct that has realised it's best
hope of earning lucre is by producing negative energy .
It wouldnt surprise me to learn that the politically correct drones
who feign righteous indignation at this type of 'joke' are on the payroll
of a shadowy PR/Communications outfit . . . .

[edelweiss pirate]

IMHO Clarkson is a ME-dia construct that has realised it's best
hope of earning lucre is by producing negative energy .
It wouldnt surprise me to learn that the politically correct drones
who feign righteous indignation at this type of 'joke' are on the payroll
of a shadowy PR/Communications outfit . . . .

Nah.... their 'people' don't have anything like Clarkson's level of wit and spontaneity... it just can't be faked.

[gods sun]

ye you take the mickey england where the pussies in the end stayed home with mommy and didnt help allies at all poland actually held up a serious fight against germans and probally are now number 1 special forces and army so clarkson is being a bit of a ass, lets see if he lasts in poland without being stoned to death.

[decim]

Wow, your integration in Britain is going swimmingly.

ye you take the mickey england where the pussies in the end stayed home with mommy and didnt help allies at all poland actually held up a serious fight against germans and probally are now number 1 special forces and army so clarkson is being a bit of a ass, lets see if he lasts in poland without being stoned to death.

[edelweiss pirate]

ye you take the mickey england where the pussies in the end stayed home with mommy and didnt help allies at all poland actually held up a serious fight against germans and probally are now number 1 special forces and army so clarkson is being a bit of a ass, lets see if he lasts in poland without being stoned to death.

Cavalry against panzers
.... bows and arrows against the artillery.

Most pointless and quickest defeat in military history.

Lighten up and learn to laugh at yourself...you'll enjoy life more.

[disorder2k8]

Clarkson was at least right about Brown

he is a one eyed Scottish idiot

[merlincove]

last weeks top gear was the first i'd seen in ages, not having any tv reception means i only get to see the tv when i'm at a mates house, lol

i loved the quips, and there were a few of them

When he was talking about people who don't care about driving should not be allowed to have licences, thnat was class, his reasoning that if someone doesn't care about something then they can't possably be any good at it - and then he said that you wouldn't ask Hammond to do the cooking, because he doesn't care about cooking, and likewise you wouldn't ask him (clarkson) to do the washing up, or as james may to direct a porn film - a classic.

Clarkson for pm :D

[disorder2k8]

Clarkson for pm :D

here here

[romas]

I like good ole english houmor, the less apologetic the better.

[decim]

Top Gear VW Scirocco Polish Ad- J.Clarkson żartuje z Polaków - YouTube

[konik]

Nah.... their 'people' don't have anything like Clarkson's level of wit and spontaneity... it just can't be faked.

if top gear is spontaneous how come there are so many people
involved in the production/scripting . . . . . :confused:


Series Other crew
Richard Porter .... script editor / script supervisor (106 episodes, 2002-2009)
Liz Campbell .... production team (101 episodes, 2002-2009)
Jane Bentham .... production executive (46 episodes, 2003-2006)
Rowland French .... researcher / production team (43 episodes, 2002-2005)
Katy Henderson .... researcher (39 episodes, 2003-2005)
Gavin Whitehead .... researcher / production team (39 episodes, 2006-2008)
Elena Christodoulou .... production coordinator / production team (37 episodes, 2007-2009)
Neil Taylor .... researcher (36 episodes, 2004-2005)
James Wiseman .... researcher / production team (34 episodes, 2002-2004)
Andrew Jones .... engineering manager (34 episodes, 2003-2009)
Marc Baker .... floor manager (34 episodes, 2004-2009)
Oisin Tymon .... production coordinator (33 episodes, 2005-2007)
Jon Grubb .... production team (32 episodes, 2002-2004)
Paul Williams .... production executive (32 episodes, 2007-2009)
Rachel Lister .... production team / production coordinator (31 episodes, 2005-2007)
Sara Hulme .... production coordinator (31 episodes, 2007-2009)
Nick Dalton .... production team / researcher (30 episodes, 2007-2009)
Greg Vince .... production team / researcher (30 episodes, 2007-2009)
David Pembrey .... production team (29 episodes, 2003-2004)
Justine Sullivan .... guest booker (29 episodes, 2005-2007)
Hannah Young .... production team (29 episodes, 2007-2009)
Adrian Walsh .... assistant floor manager / floor manager (27 episodes, 2007-2009)
Alex Renton .... researcher (26 episodes, 2004-2005)
Sophia Vaizey .... production team (26 episodes, 2004-2005)
Elaine Stephenson .... production accountant (26 episodes, 2007-2009)
Graeme Robson .... engineering manager (25 episodes, 2005-2009)
Michelle Julier .... researcher / production team (24 episodes, 2002-2003)
Ed Sharpe .... floor manager (22 episodes, 2003-2004)
Grant Wardrop .... researcher (21 episodes, 2005-2006)
Laurence Hill .... guest booker (19 episodes, 2003-2004)
Jon Briest .... production coordinator (19 episodes, 2004)
Rick Horne .... production team (18 episodes, 2002-2003)
Alec Potter .... floor manager (17 episodes, 2004-2005)
Owen Butler .... production team (17 episodes, 2005)
Jack Beardsley .... assistant floor manager (16 episodes, 2005-2007)
Mel Hoffman .... production executive (15 episodes, 2002-2003)
Richard Cole .... floor manager / assistant floor manager (14 episodes, 2003-2008)
Peter Holton .... production team (14 episodes, 2006-2007)
Jane Taylor .... production executive (14 episodes, 2006-2007)
Sarah Dutton .... production team (14 episodes, 2008-2009)
Will Thomas .... production team (14 episodes, 2008)
Seonaid Murray .... production coordinator / production team (13 episodes, 2006-2007)
Michelle Clinton .... production coordinator (13 episodes, 2007)
Poppy Ross .... production coordinator / production team (12 episodes, 2002-2003)
Richard Shaylor .... engineering manager (12 episodes, 2003-2006)
Jack Burnford .... production team (12 episodes, 2003-2004)
Theresa Lydon .... production coordinator (12 episodes, 2003)
Helen Gibson .... production team / researcher (11 episodes, 2003-2004)
Tom Watt-Smith .... production team (10 episodes, 2003)
Louisa McDonald .... production coordinator (10 episodes, 2007)
Ian Morris .... production team (9 episodes, 2003)
Nimira Velji .... production coordinator (9 episodes, 2003)
Jules Hawkins .... production team (9 episodes, 2004)
Claire Holdsworth .... guest booker (9 episodes, 2004)
Lew Henson .... engineering manager (8 episodes, 2003-2007)
Bob Young .... engineering manager (7 episodes, 2003-2008)
Roger Dempster .... floor manager (7 episodes, 2007)
Chris Gosson .... production assistant (6 episodes, 2007)
Anna McVey .... production team (6 episodes, 2008)
Ged Parsons .... script consultant (6 episodes, 2008)
Joe Faulkner-Edwards .... production team (6 episodes, 2009)
Anna McGrath .... production team (6 episodes, 2009)
Irfhan Mirza .... production team (6 episodes, 2009)
Andy Batten-Foster .... creative director (5 episodes, 2002)
Bethanie Roser .... production team (5 episodes, 2002)
Yonni Usiskin .... researcher / production team (5 episodes, 2002)
Steve Chapman .... engineering manager (4 episodes, 2002)
Amanda Man .... production team (4 episodes, 2003)
Tom Munden .... production team (4 episodes, 2003)
Lucy Buckley .... production team (4 episodes, 2004)
Deborah McCarthy .... researcher (4 episodes, 2007)
Nick Keene .... floor manager (3 episodes, 2002)
Henry Biggs .... production team (3 episodes, 2003)
John Charlton .... engineering manager (3 episodes, 2004-2007)
Colin Hewitt .... engineering manager (3 episodes, 2004-2007)
Rachael Fraser .... production team (3 episodes, 2004)
David Gold .... floor manager (2 episodes, 2002)
Kat Gros .... production team (2 episodes, 2004)
Dave Currie .... engineering manager (2 episodes, 2005)
Osman Ijaz .... production team (2 episodes, 2007)
Lee Hall .... assistant floor manager (2 episodes, 2008-2009)
Catherine Clinton .... production team (2 episodes, 2008)
Ben Russell .... production team (2 episodes, 2008)
Rob Smith .... floor manager (2 episodes, 2008)
Chris Stott .... production coordinator (2 episodes, 2008

[merlincove]

if top gear is spontaneous how come there are so many people
involved in the production/scripting . . . . . :confused:


Series Other crew
Richard Porter .... script editor / script supervisor (106 episodes, 2002-2009)
Liz Campbell .... production team (101 episodes, 2002-2009)
Jane Bentham .... production executive (46 episodes, 2003-2006)
Rowland French .... researcher / production team (43 episodes, 2002-2005)
Katy Henderson .... researcher (39 episodes, 2003-2005)
Gavin Whitehead .... researcher / production team (39 episodes, 2006-2008)
Elena Christodoulou .... production coordinator / production team (37 episodes, 2007-2009)
Neil Taylor .... researcher (36 episodes, 2004-2005)
James Wiseman .... researcher / production team (34 episodes, 2002-2004)
Andrew Jones .... engineering manager (34 episodes, 2003-2009)
Marc Baker .... floor manager (34 episodes, 2004-2009)
Oisin Tymon .... production coordinator (33 episodes, 2005-2007)
Jon Grubb .... production team (32 episodes, 2002-2004)
Paul Williams .... production executive (32 episodes, 2007-2009)
Rachel Lister .... production team / production coordinator (31 episodes, 2005-2007)
Sara Hulme .... production coordinator (31 episodes, 2007-2009)
Nick Dalton .... production team / researcher (30 episodes, 2007-2009)
Greg Vince .... production team / researcher (30 episodes, 2007-2009)
David Pembrey .... production team (29 episodes, 2003-2004)
Justine Sullivan .... guest booker (29 episodes, 2005-2007)
Hannah Young .... production team (29 episodes, 2007-2009)
Adrian Walsh .... assistant floor manager / floor manager (27 episodes, 2007-2009)
Alex Renton .... researcher (26 episodes, 2004-2005)
Sophia Vaizey .... production team (26 episodes, 2004-2005)
Elaine Stephenson .... production accountant (26 episodes, 2007-2009)
Graeme Robson .... engineering manager (25 episodes, 2005-2009)
Michelle Julier .... researcher / production team (24 episodes, 2002-2003)
Ed Sharpe .... floor manager (22 episodes, 2003-2004)
Grant Wardrop .... researcher (21 episodes, 2005-2006)
Laurence Hill .... guest booker (19 episodes, 2003-2004)
Jon Briest .... production coordinator (19 episodes, 2004)
Rick Horne .... production team (18 episodes, 2002-2003)
Alec Potter .... floor manager (17 episodes, 2004-2005)
Owen Butler .... production team (17 episodes, 2005)
Jack Beardsley .... assistant floor manager (16 episodes, 2005-2007)
Mel Hoffman .... production executive (15 episodes, 2002-2003)
Richard Cole .... floor manager / assistant floor manager (14 episodes, 2003-2008)
Peter Holton .... production team (14 episodes, 2006-2007)
Jane Taylor .... production executive (14 episodes, 2006-2007)
Sarah Dutton .... production team (14 episodes, 2008-2009)
Will Thomas .... production team (14 episodes, 2008)
Seonaid Murray .... production coordinator / production team (13 episodes, 2006-2007)
Michelle Clinton .... production coordinator (13 episodes, 2007)
Poppy Ross .... production coordinator / production team (12 episodes, 2002-2003)
Richard Shaylor .... engineering manager (12 episodes, 2003-2006)
Jack Burnford .... production team (12 episodes, 2003-2004)
Theresa Lydon .... production coordinator (12 episodes, 2003)
Helen Gibson .... production team / researcher (11 episodes, 2003-2004)
Tom Watt-Smith .... production team (10 episodes, 2003)
Louisa McDonald .... production coordinator (10 episodes, 2007)
Ian Morris .... production team (9 episodes, 2003)
Nimira Velji .... production coordinator (9 episodes, 2003)
Jules Hawkins .... production team (9 episodes, 2004)
Claire Holdsworth .... guest booker (9 episodes, 2004)
Lew Henson .... engineering manager (8 episodes, 2003-2007)
Bob Young .... engineering manager (7 episodes, 2003-2008)
Roger Dempster .... floor manager (7 episodes, 2007)
Chris Gosson .... production assistant (6 episodes, 2007)
Anna McVey .... production team (6 episodes, 2008)
Ged Parsons .... script consultant (6 episodes, 2008)
Joe Faulkner-Edwards .... production team (6 episodes, 2009)
Anna McGrath .... production team (6 episodes, 2009)
Irfhan Mirza .... production team (6 episodes, 2009)
Andy Batten-Foster .... creative director (5 episodes, 2002)
Bethanie Roser .... production team (5 episodes, 2002)
Yonni Usiskin .... researcher / production team (5 episodes, 2002)
Steve Chapman .... engineering manager (4 episodes, 2002)
Amanda Man .... production team (4 episodes, 2003)
Tom Munden .... production team (4 episodes, 2003)
Lucy Buckley .... production team (4 episodes, 2004)
Deborah McCarthy .... researcher (4 episodes, 2007)
Nick Keene .... floor manager (3 episodes, 2002)
Henry Biggs .... production team (3 episodes, 2003)
John Charlton .... engineering manager (3 episodes, 2004-2007)
Colin Hewitt .... engineering manager (3 episodes, 2004-2007)
Rachael Fraser .... production team (3 episodes, 2004)
David Gold .... floor manager (2 episodes, 2002)
Kat Gros .... production team (2 episodes, 2004)
Dave Currie .... engineering manager (2 episodes, 2005)
Osman Ijaz .... production team (2 episodes, 2007)
Lee Hall .... assistant floor manager (2 episodes, 2008-2009)
Catherine Clinton .... production team (2 episodes, 2008)
Ben Russell .... production team (2 episodes, 2008)
Rob Smith .... floor manager (2 episodes, 2008)
Chris Stott .... production coordinator (2 episodes, 2008

it doesn't matter, it makes great tv :D

[nofuture]

Clarkson's pretty funny. He can say what he wants.

But his sort can usually dish it out but can't take it back.

[edelweiss pirate]

Clarkson's pretty funny. He can say what he wants.

But his sort can usually dish it out but can't take it back.

Don't you think Clarkson has to put up with a hell of a lot of shit these days... Every week he's in the pillory for being an original.

He's still smiling as far as I can see.

In the show people are frequently quite rude to him and he laughs it off...

The 'TV idiot' that he is. lol.

[grachtengordel]

Clarkson is a bore, concieted, snide, cowardly. He is basically richard littlejohn for smug onanists who think they are too good for richard littlejohn. The man obviously has an inferiority complex and has built up a flock of idiots who like him only because he is unpleasant. the more of a shit he is, the more they like him. What a magnificent blow against 'political correctness'. "oh yes , those PC manics cant stop us, we will just be more incorrect to spite them"

if top gear is spontaneous how come there are so many people
involved in the production/scripting ?

it doesn't matter, it makes great tv

Yes it does matter, the morons claim that the show is spontanious when it is blatanty witless scripted so answer the question or say nothing.

Lighten up and learn to laugh at yourself...you'll enjoy life more.

No , you lighten up and learn to laugh at YOURself.

TOP GEAR IS FOR MORONS

[edelweiss pirate]

Clarkson is a bore, concieted, snide, cowardly. He is basically richard littlejohn for smug onanists who think they are too good for richard littlejohn. The man obviously has an inferiority complex and has built up a flock of idiots who like him only because he is unpleasant. the more of a shit he is, the more they like him. What a magnificent blow against 'political correctness'. "oh yes , those PC manics cant stop us, we will just be more incorrect to spite them"





Yes it does matter, the morons claim that the show is spontanious when it is blatanty witless scripted so answer the question or say nothing.



No , you lighten up and learn to laugh at YOURself.

TOP GEAR IS FOR MORONS


I bet you're a hoot at parties.

[choice]

Grachtengordel, what a pathetic person you are, generalizing that way. Keep on topic, it was about Clarkson, not Top Gear followers.
Clearly you didn't ride a top car this season.

[synergy777]

Clarkson is a bore, concieted, snide, cowardly. He is basically richard littlejohn for smug onanists who think they are too good for richard littlejohn. The man obviously has an inferiority complex and has built up a flock of idiots who like him only because he is unpleasant. the more of a shit he is, the more they like him. What a magnificent blow against 'political correctness'. "oh yes , those PC manics cant stop us, we will just be more incorrect to spite them"





Yes it does matter, the morons claim that the show is spontanious when it is blatanty witless scripted so answer the question or say nothing.



No , you lighten up and learn to laugh at YOURself.

TOP GEAR IS FOR MORONS

well i'm a moron then, thanks bro, lol

clarkson is awesome, but james may is my fave.

[merlincove]

Yes it does matter, the morons claim that the show is spontanious when it is blatanty witless scripted so answer the question or say nothing.



No , you lighten up and learn to laugh at YOURself.

TOP GEAR IS FOR MORONS

No, dear gractengordel, it does not matter. Not at all. Not a bit of it matters.

It is clearly obvious to anyone with a half a brain that the show is scripted. The 'morons' (whoever they are) who claim that the show is spontaneous are just playing along. Look at any of the 'challenges' and tell me that they are not absolutely scripted. Clarkson doing 100 + mph on a german autobhan in a veyron and the camera's being in just the right place to catch it, neck and neck finishes, brilliant one line quips, right on queue - they don't expect us to believe that it is spontaneous, that is a part of the gag - i'm sorry that you missed it.

Look up humour in a dictionary sometime and try to keep up.

I'm sure there is some add-libbing goes on in the chat sections, tho i imagine very little.

And i re-iterate, it doesn't matter, because it makes great TV, that is an answer to your Q. It makes great TV, it makes people smile, and it gets people talking, and it gets people watching, and it gets people interested - this is why it doesn't matter whether the thing is scripted or not. And where people are laughing and having a little light hearted fun, you see nothing else matters then. Is that an adequate answer for you?

i bet not.

It Doesn't Matter.

i thought i needed to say that again, just in case you missed the point :rolleyes:

explain to me why it matters and i might be bothered to read your next post :D

Peace dude

[decim]

grachtengordel is in the Morris Marina owners club & tows a caravan.

[krakhead]

TOP GEAR IS FOR MORONS

http://blippitt.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/moron.jpg

Top Gear fan and proud! :D

[merlincove]

http://blippitt.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/moron.jpg

Top Gear fan and proud! :D

His photoshop / paint skills aren't so good either :rolleyes:

But it doesn't matter, not really, it makes good viewing lol

[grachtengordel]

No, dear gractengordel, it does not matter. Not at all. Not a bit of it matters.

It is clearly obvious to anyone with a half a brain that the show is scripted. The 'morons' (whoever they are) who claim that the show is spontaneous are just playing along. Look at any of the 'challenges' and tell me that they are not absolutely scripted. Clarkson doing 100 + mph on a german autobhan in a veyron and the camera's being in just the right place to catch it, neck and neck finishes, brilliant one line quips, right on queue - they don't expect us to believe that it is spontaneous, that is a part of the gag - i'm sorry that you missed it.

Look up humour in a dictionary sometime and try to keep up.

I'm sure there is some add-libbing goes on in the chat sections, tho i imagine very little.

And i re-iterate, it doesn't matter, because it makes great TV, that is an answer to your Q. It makes great TV, it makes people smile, and it gets people talking, and it gets people watching, and it gets people interested - this is why it doesn't matter whether the thing is scripted or not. And where people are laughing and having a little light hearted fun, you see nothing else matters then. Is that an adequate answer for you?

i bet not.

It Doesn't Matter.

i thought i needed to say that again, just in case you missed the point :rolleyes:

explain to me why it matters and i might be bothered to read your next post :D

Peace dude

You could have just said "yes it is scripted"

but you are right, it does not matter , and it wasn't really even my question, someone else posted all those 'scriptwriter' credits, I just had a pop because you are defending the celebration of idiocy called 'top gear' and that makes you 'fair game' or 'the enemy or reason'

i have a fatwah on all fans of top gear and soon the infidels will feel the almighty wrath of judgement.

btw, clarkson is a shit eating pseud, a smug and talentless fool who produces nothing and merely provides an excuse for grown men to indulge thier egos as perpetual teenagers

[merlincove]

You could have just said "yes it is scripted"

but you are right, it does not matter , and it wasn't really even my question, someone else posted all those 'scriptwriter' credits, I just had a pop because you are defending the celebration of idiocy called 'top gear' and that makes you 'fair game' or 'the enemy or reason'

i have a fatwah on all fans of top gear and soon the infidels will feel the almighty wrath of judgement.

btw, clarkson is a shit eating pseud, a smug and talentless fool who produces nothing and merely provides an excuse for grown men to indulge thier egos as perpetual teenagers

lol indeed grachtengordel

Jeremy Clarkson locked in a toilet: Piers Morgan's delight - YouTube

it wasn't you who staked up those tyres was it? - maybe he was eating shit in there :rolleyes:

[edelweiss pirate]

http://blippitt.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/moron.jpg

Top Gear fan and proud! :D

How about you're a moron for not liking top gear....

Makes about as much sense.

But the shit spoon away mod.

[grachtengordel]

lol indeed grachtengordel

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h6sPfX39hTI

it wasn't you who staked up those tyres was it? - maybe he was eating shit in there :rolleyes:

thank you so much for this. really made my day

[gilly]

Some people just don't get black humour!

[krakhead]

How about you're a moron for not liking top gear....

Makes about as much sense.

But the shit spoon away mod.

You really should learn to read carefully before replying! And also try to post something that makes sense! "But the shit spoon away mod" - WTF is that about?

I like Top Gear AND Clarkson - Shame I had to spell it out though - kind of ruins the joke :rolleyes:

[edelweiss pirate]

You really should learn to read carefully before replying! And also try to post something that makes sense! "But the shit spoon away mod" - WTF is that about?

I like Top Gear AND Clarkson - Shame I had to spell it out though - kind of ruins the joke :rolleyes:

Was it a joke? Musta been too funny for me to comprehend.....

[krakhead]

Was it a joke? Musta been too funny for me to comprehend.....

OK - a fuller explanation for the comedically retarded :p

grachtengordel stated he thinks 'Top Gear is for morons'

Then I, as a fan of Top Gear, posted a pic I found on the internet stating 'I am a moron', as I must be according to gracht because I like Top Gear.

Simple enough for you? :)

[merlincove]

OK - a fuller explanation for the comedically retarded :p

grachtengordel stated he thinks 'Top Gear is for morons'

Then I, as a fan of Top Gear, posted a pic I found on the internet stating 'I am a moron', as I must be according to gracht because I like Top Gear.

Simple enough for you? :)

:D

:rolleyes:

[Ian2day]

IMHO Clarkson is a ME-dia construct that has realised it's best
hope of earning lucre is by producing negative energy .
It wouldnt surprise me to learn that the politically correct drones
who feign righteous indignation at this type of 'joke' are on the payroll
of a shadowy PR/Communications outfit . . . .

Clarkson is owned by some of the people who have stolen my creativity. Every now and then there will be a psychological trigger in the programs. Like a dreadful jacket worn for a bet. If you find the clip of him wearing some smoking jacket thing or other. When he turns to the camera. You can see it in his eyes, that he is thinking 'right now someone at home knows that I am one of them'. The one tank gag was not his idea.

[edelweiss pirate]

Clarkson is owned by some of the people who have stolen my creativity. Every now and then there will be a psychological trigger in the programs. Like a dreadful jacket worn for a bet. If you find the clip of him wearing some smoking jacket thing or other. When he turns to the camera. You can see it in his eyes, that he is thinking 'right now someone at home knows that I am one of them'. The one tank gag was not his idea.



Look, why don't you sit me down and explain this one to me slowly and carefully because I'm not getting a clear picture at all

I'm open minded as long as I can see a certain logic and rationale. There is a chance that this one might just be in your head.

You should apply rigorous testing to a theory like yours. I'm not sure you have. It could just be harmless synchronicity.

[edelweiss pirate]

OK - a fuller explanation for the comedically retarded :p

grachtengordel stated he thinks 'Top Gear is for morons'

Then I, as a fan of Top Gear, posted a pic I found on the internet stating 'I am a moron', as I must be according to gracht because I like Top Gear.

Simple enough for you? :)

You may be a mod but you're definitely not funny.

[gilly]

I've removed a couple of off-topic posts - please stop derailing this thread.

[Ian2day]

Look, why don't you sit me down and explain this one to me slowly and carefully because I'm not getting a clear picture at all

I'm open minded as long as I can see a certain logic and rationale. There is a chance that this one might just be in your head.

You should apply rigorous testing to a theory like yours. I'm not sure you have. It could just be harmless synchronicity.

I dont post up in each post I make all qualifying infomation as most people dismiss it as its not their life so it cant possibly be mine. I've posted some of what has happened in other posts I've made.

[always_rebel]

Cavalry against panzers
.... bows and arrows against the artillery.

Most pointless and quickest defeat in military history.



oh, you show such great historical knowledge [irony].


Ever heard about No. 303 ("Kościuszko") Polish Fighter Squadron or the Battle of Monte Cassino?

Then the treason of the "allies" followed, while first allies made the Poles fight a lost Battle of Warsaw (in which hundreds of thousands of Warsaw citizens were brutally murdered) and then the treason of Yalta Conference followed.


First learn some history before blindly parroting cliches style:

Cavalry against panzers
.... bows and arrows against the artillery.

Most pointless and quickest defeat in military history.




You've just made an idiot out of yourself, edelweiss.




.

[edelweiss pirate]

oh, you show such great historical knowledge [irony].


Ever heard about No. 303 ("Kościuszko") Polish Fighter Squadron or the Battle of Monte Cassino?

Then the treason of the "allies" followed, while first allies made the Poles fight a lost Battle of Warsaw (in which hundreds of thousands of Warsaw citizens were brutally murdered) and then the treason of Yalta Conference followed.


First learn some history before blindly parroting cliches style:




You've just made an idiot out of yourself, edelweiss. .


HISTORICAL FACT:
The Polish army was defeated within weeks of invasion.

[steppewar]

oh, you show such great historical knowledge [irony].


Ever heard about No. 303 ("Kościuszko") Polish Fighter Squadron or the Battle of Monte Cassino?

Then the treason of the "allies" followed, while first allies made the Poles fight a lost Battle of Warsaw (in which hundreds of thousands of Warsaw citizens were brutally murdered) and then the treason of Yalta Conference followed.


First learn some history before blindly parroting cliches style:




You've just made an idiot out of yourself, edelweiss.




.

It was actually the Russians that tricked the Poles into fighting the Battle of Warsaw in August 1944. The Russian army was very nearby and promised to assist the Poles in the uprising.

However, not only was this a blatant lie to the Poles, but Stalin actually DELIBERATELY paused the Russian advance while this battle was going on.

The reason for this was that he did not want the Poles to (be seen) to defeat the Germans, because if this happened, it would have been harder for Stalin to get Poland under his control after the war ended.

Because the Polish uprising failed, Stalin claimed he had "liberated" Poland, and at Yalta in February 1945, the UK ,and (especially) the USA, agreed that Stalin could basically 'have' Poland, which he then did.

Warsaw Uprising - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia