rising above conspiracies - mixed opinions

[truthinlove]

i'm no ascended master, critic, finger-pointer, guru, hater. this is simply my current state...

i became spiritual by way of learning of conspiracies first. in a way, they seem to go hand-in-hand for me. i'm not here to knock the truthers nor act like i'm above those who are immersed in conspiracies. but we can not truly be free, physically, until we are free within.

when you get to the heart of the matter, attempts to expose and "fight" the global "movie" that is unfolding only fuels our negative energy while strengthening the ego mind, keeping us operating in fear. these orwellian scenarios are playing out the way we thought they would because we are creating them! shouldn't we rise above the cinematic drama?

there's much talk on forums and in-person about "waking up". it's really a broad statement. what have they awoke to? most of the so-called "awakened" ones are not about love, peace, understanding, and compassion; especially towards to illuminati/tptb/the elite:)

approaching the world from a spiritual perspective feels naturally perfect to me. the real awakening partly has to do with remembering who you are...

please do not assume that i am ignorant or apathetic towards the suffering and enslavement that is occurring, globally.

thoughts?

[collective evolution]

I really like your direction and understanding you have. Its beautiful. You understand that there is much more than the conspiracies and we create some of them as we live in fear.

Some of what does occur happens because it is plaing out on the astral plane and the light and dark forces are playing out their "battles." The results then play out here on earth based on what humanity needs to experience in our time of duality before we shift.

We as humanity have been asked to shift and we ARE asking to shift. This is why these things are playing out. To help us in our final evolution and to give us the experience we need to have.

I also agree with the fact that the conspiracies go hand in hand with the spiritual side. This happened the same for me too. It happens this way because there is a DIRECT correlation between the two and people need to understand that their is more than just conspiracies and the real powers behind the conspiracies is "spiritual" related.

I would like to say I like you understanding of everything including the ego, that is a big thing a lot of u are missing out on.

Thanks for sharing.

[itsallinus]

The world we are in is a reflection of ourselves. So one might say, the nwo is the ego-self taking control and manipulating us. The awakening is the spiritual self destroying the ego (which is finite). Just thought I would throw in this metaphor that I was thinking about last night, op, your thread gave me the opportunity to do that thanks! :p:)

[cleft_asunder]

i'm no ascended master, critic, finger-pointer, guru, hater. this is simply my current state...

i became spiritual by way of learning of conspiracies first. in a way, they seem to go hand-in-hand for me. i'm not here to knock the truthers nor act like i'm above those who are immersed in conspiracies. but we can not truly be free, physically, until we are free within.

when you get to the heart of the matter, attempts to expose and "fight" the global "movie" that is unfolding only fuels our negative energy while strengthening the ego mind, keeping us operating in fear. these orwellian scenarios are playing out the way we thought they would because we are creating them! shouldn't we rise above the cinematic drama?

there's much talk on forums and in-person about "waking up". it's really a broad statement. what have they awoke to? most of the so-called "awakened" ones are not about love, peace, understanding, and compassion; especially towards to illuminati/tptb/the elite:)

approaching the world from a spiritual perspective feels naturally perfect to me. the real awakening partly has to do with remembering who you are...

please do not assume that i am ignorant or apathetic towards the suffering and enslavement that is occurring, globally.

thoughts?

You are 100% correct. If you look at human history, where has human resistance gotten us? Nonwhere. We are still caged. Only when we go behond the ego and live from spirit will this all come crashing down.

[truthinlove]

thanks for sharing your thoughts, everyone.

the very next day after starting this thread, i came across a beautiful summary of what i was trying to convey. i posted it in the "general" section, but will also post here:

Conspiracy Theories and Fear

by Julia Rogers Hamrick

Barely a day goes by that I do not encounter someone on the Internet passionately proclaiming that the world is held captive by a conspiracy of evil and that the helpless, hapless human inhabitants of the planet have been enslaved by a small dynasty of calculating, nefarious men (or aliens) and their wicked organizations. What could be more classically duality-matrix themed than that?

What You Focus On, You Empower - However well-meaning those that espouse this are, and however true these notions may possibly be in one view of reality, it is not a view of reality you want to focus on if creating a world of harmony and joy is your desire! Investing any passion in the duality matrix by being outraged about “evil” does exactly the thing that keeps you - and the rest of humanity - at lower frequency: increasing the power of entities in reverse polarity by feeding them with energy. Whenever you focus on or push against something, you empower it. The key is rising above it.

Have you noticed how much fear you tap into when you read, hear, or think about these ideas of being controlled and manipulated? Have you sensed the drop in your frequency and the diminution of joy that is triggered when you immerse yourself in these conspiracy discussions? What does this tell you? If you’re alert to it, you’ll know that you’ve moved into the territory of the part of you that thrives on fear.

What aspect of you is it that gets excited from and feeds off fear? It’s your reptilian brain. While the reptilian brain does handle some important jobs within you, like controlling your autonomic nervous system and making sure you don’t get run over by a bus, it is not the aspect of you that will lead you to freedom and happiness! Heeding the call of the reptilian brain leads you down in frequency and farther from the paradise reality of ease and joy.

So, why would you lower your frequency by drinking in - and passing on to others - fearful stuff? In addition to the calling of your reptilian brain for more scary input, your reptilian brain is also about status - the smarter you appear, the higher your status. (In the reptilian brain’s world, status is a key to survival.) Your ego, which is the psychological overlay for your reptilian brain, finds gratification in demonstrating that you are one of the few that have waked up and caught on to the machinations of the evil-doers.

The irony is, however, that the more people with which you share the information, and consequently, the fear, the lower the vibrational frequency and corresponding consciousness level of the whole of humanity. And the more determined people become to overcome the evil by pushing against it, the more it is strengthened. So the more energy given to the theoretical conspiracies, the more the conspiracies - or the fear they generate - are empowered, and the further disempowered humanity is!

The lower your frequency/consciousness, the less you can perceive, and the more easily you are manipulated. So if you are worried about human enslavement (or whatever the conspiracy theory du jour is), the least helpful thing you can do is dwell on it and share the fearful stuff with everyone!

Raising Your Vibrational Frequency - The sadly humorous thing about conspiracy theories is they thrive off fear, and knowing about them does not create some sort of important awareness that leads to moral victory and a triumph of “good” over “evil.” You can’t ”overcome evil” by railing against it or even focusing on it. In order to escape the clutches of evil, you have to opt out of the reality where there is such a thing as “good” and “evil.” And the way you do that is by rising in frequency above the duality matrix through choosing joy and unconditional radiance - the way of the spiritual master. This comes as a disappointment to the reptilian-brain-driven ego, that thrives off the notion that fighting is the way to solve problems!

The most powerful thing you can do with your awareness is to choose to focus on and dwell in joy, and to radiate Love instead of fear, thus bringing the whole of humanity up in frequency. That is what will actually set humanity free. True freedom from the tyranny of fear is found simply by raising your frequency out of fear and into joy by choosing to shift your focus from what you don’t want to what you do want.

Human beings only comprehend their true power when they are at a high enough level of consciousness to do so. So if what you want is to empower humanity, focusing on joy, and raising your own vibrational frequency to the level where joy is your experience, raises the consciousness of humanity and offers your fellow human beings the opportunity to comprehend their power. When you know your own power, it is no longer possible to be a powerless victim. So do yourself, and all humanity, the service of keeping your focus aligned with Love and joy.

[whiterain]

great post tilove. unfortunately its easy to say i want to focus on joy and positive thoughts but with a lifetime of doing the opposite it can be very hard to break the cycle. i feel like most of my conscious fears have diminished so much they barely exist, however whenever i link to my subconscious i still seem to have a freakishly massive amount of fear built up that i cant let go of at all. any suggestions?

[truthinlove]

our subconscious fears are the same as our conscious fears, since they are both created from the ego mind. though, it is in the subconscious mind where our deepest, darkest fears and secrets exist. which is why going to that place can be scary.

i've found that entheogenic/psychedelic experiences can bring forth ones fears and secrets and allow you to face them (whether you're ready or not!), and "clean out your closet". i'm not suggesting them, though! psychedelics are not for the faint of heart.

there are also meditations that focus on positive thinking, like one called called brahma kumaris.

sometimes it helps to read a great motivational/self-help book that is geared towards spirituality, remembering who you are, and overcoming fears. one book that stands out which i've found to be really helpful is "the dark side of the light chasers" by debbie ford.

[whiterain]

yeah i been trying to face the fears through the methods you dont recommend ;) but they are fcking massive bstards! every time they just scare the shit outta me and it puts me off trying for a couple of months. i hoped after my 2nd experience with heavy psychadelics that after a breakthrough experience it would be a bit easier and i wouldnt have to go through the same shit again, but it seems to get harder and takes pretty much exactly the same form as the previous tries. i guess at least im trying to face them and ill get there someday hopefully

[lyghtkynge]

Yeah, but, it helps if you Understand Principle, first; that is, Understand Principle:

But, you go ahead and have your positive thoughts & joys (deadly joys, mindless bliss); go ahead and wander through The Valley of The Shadow of Darkness [Death], and never truly knowing which turn to take at the many forks in the mazeway. I understand. I truly do.

Or, you might go ahead and learn what The WORD actually is, then study that:

"Seek Ye First The Kingdom of Heaven (Principle);
And All Else Shall be Added Unto You (Understanding)."

For Example: When the All One Split Into The Divine Twins, for your Understanding, one Half was Feminine Matter (Mother Nature), and the other Half was Masculine Spirit (Father Light).
http://www.google.com/images?q=tbn:5pxTOOouA-FdaM::trustedadvisor.com/public/image/yinYang.gif

Now, are you following? These Two Halves, called the Double Vortexes (one Visible Light, the other Invisible Energy), Interact In Perfect Balance.

Notice how the World is Today? Kinda out'ta balance, some might say. Most call it too much materialism (some will argue anything), or great density. Well, most people think they will Adjust This Balance by Seeking Greater Spirituality...yeah, we win! We're Spiritual, and we're On Our Way Up!

No, You Are Not. You are going to be Thrust Back Into Matter like a Slingshot, Somewhere Along The Way, Because the Universal Creative Force[X2] Maintains Perfect Balance. The Imbalance is called Life EXpression.

Ever hear the stories associated with 'ascension?' "For a 1000 yrs, all will be peace, but then..." You familiar with that one? Add it to the analogy being described here.

What the heck am I talking about? Too much spirituality is every bit as bad as too much materiality. Is the Mother Inferior to The Father? Look at the Yin-Yang Symbol: See the Equalness? A fool on another thread keeps saying that the Dark Half is All Evil...[them damned Feminine Halves...don't they know they are Evil?] (It's a female who is perpetrating this belief, btw!).

The Feminine & Masculine Halves are Equal...Both are Necessary...Both Are Two Halves That Make The Whole ONE. Ever play ball with half a ball? Try it (might be interesting!).

So, next time you discuss Spirituality, try to understand what The WORD Is: Universal Law of Being-Presence/Perfect Balance: Integration: A New Being, called the Phoenix (or any other word/name that connotes the meaning to you), Greater Then Either Half Alone, The One Whole ALL.

And stop hating/fearing the Dark Half, materiality: It must be Balanced, that is All. Ever hear of Too Much of a Good Thing, like Spirituality, for Instance?

That is The POWER of The [Universal] Law. So go ahead, hit the Extreme other Half all you want, forget the Law of Balance. I love slingshots, too.

[arty2000]

i'm no ascended master, critic, finger-pointer, guru, hater. this is simply my current state...

i became spiritual by way of learning of conspiracies first. in a way, they seem to go hand-in-hand for me. i'm not here to knock the truthers nor act like i'm above those who are immersed in conspiracies. but we can not truly be free, physically, until we are free within.

when you get to the heart of the matter, attempts to expose and "fight" the global "movie" that is unfolding only fuels our negative energy while strengthening the ego mind, keeping us operating in fear. these orwellian scenarios are playing out the way we thought they would because we are creating them! shouldn't we rise above the cinematic drama?

there's much talk on forums and in-person about "waking up". it's really a broad statement. what have they awoke to? most of the so-called "awakened" ones are not about love, peace, understanding, and compassion; especially towards to illuminati/tptb/the elite:)

approaching the world from a spiritual perspective feels naturally perfect to me. the real awakening partly has to do with remembering who you are...

please do not assume that i am ignorant or apathetic towards the suffering and enslavement that is occurring, globally.

thoughts?

well said....let go of the notion that we are this mind/body...these are vessels for us to participate in this realm..the ego needs justification,reasons it is worried about its existence...see these things for what they are constucts to keep us in survival mode;)

[itsallinus]

Erm, well I know we have plenty of materialism but how much spiritualism would I need to balance it out? What about all those that are spiritually dead? Should I be a bit more spiritual for them as well?

[truthinlove]

Yeah, but, it helps if you Understand Principle, first; that is, Understand Principle:

But, you go ahead and have your positive thoughts & joys (deadly joys, mindless bliss); go ahead and wander through The Valley of The Shadow of Darkness [Death], and never truly knowing which turn to take at the many forks in the mazeway. I understand. I truly do.

Or, you might go ahead and learn what The WORD actually is, then study that:

"Seek Ye First The Kingdom of Heaven (Principle);
And All Else Shall be Added Unto You (Understanding)."

For Example: When the All One Split Into The Divine Twins, for your Understanding, one Half was Feminine Matter (Mother Nature), and the other Half was Masculine Spirit (Father Light).
http://www.google.com/images?q=tbn:5pxTOOouA-FdaM::trustedadvisor.com/public/image/yinYang.gif

Now, are you following? These Two Halves, called the Double Vortexes (one Visible Light, the other Invisible Energy), Interact In Perfect Balance.

Notice how the World is Today? Kinda out'ta balance, some might say. Most call it too much materialism (some will argue anything), or great density. Well, most people think they will Adjust This Balance by Seeking Greater Spirituality...yeah, we win! We're Spiritual, and we're On Our Way Up!

No, You Are Not. You are going to be Thrust Back Into Matter like a Slingshot, Somewhere Along The Way, Because the Universal Creative Force[X2] Maintains Perfect Balance. The Imbalance is called Life EXpression.

Ever hear the stories associated with 'ascension?' "For a 1000 yrs, all will be peace, but then..." You familiar with that one? Add it to the analogy being described here.

What the heck am I talking about? Too much spirituality is every bit as bad as too much materiality. Is the Mother Inferior to The Father? Look at the Yin-Yang Symbol: See the Equalness? A fool on another thread keeps saying that the Dark Half is All Evil...[them damned Feminine Halves...don't they know they are Evil?] (It's a female who is perpetrating this belief, btw!).

The Feminine & Masculine Halves are Equal...Both are Necessary...Both Are Two Halves That Make The Whole ONE. Ever play ball with half a ball? Try it (might be interesting!).

So, next time you discuss Spirituality, try to understand what The WORD Is: Universal Law of Being-Presence/Perfect Balance: Integration: A New Being, called the Phoenix (or any other word/name that connotes the meaning to you), Greater Then Either Half Alone, The One Whole ALL.

And stop hating/fearing the Dark Half, materiality: It must be Balanced, that is All. Ever hear of Too Much of a Good Thing, like Spirituality, for Instance?

That is The POWER of The [Universal] Law. So go ahead, hit the Extreme other Half all you want, forget the Law of Balance. I love slingshots, too.

i definitely understand the necessity of having the material/ego, but feel the need to stress an increase of awareness of the spiritual for the balance to be. this is more so true on a personal level.

i know i cannot destroy, or even shed my ego. i must embrace it, for it makes me whole. if one dwells amongst society, the ego will always rear it's head.