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societyisthematrix
12-02-2007, 07:55 AM
Moderator drgonzo has stated that we have a window of time where voicing our opinions will be tolerated (proof *). I'm opening a democratic vote here, "Dark Side of the Moon Forum" (explanation of what this is below) Yes - You want to see it opened or No you don't want to see it opened. Please give your reasons for your vote.


So let's get back on topic. Should we just have one general forum for all this off topic stuff? Or perhaps a special forum to allow members to offer suggestions and constructive criticism?

* Now is the time to voice your opinion.

I voted yes, here's my reasons:

IMHO, a "Dark Side of the Moon Forum" or "Bin Room" where threads that get out of hand could be moved to rather than closed could really work here. Here's my proposal:

The "Dark Side of the Moon Forum" would be like prison in the real life, if you're deemed unfit for the rest of society you're sent to prison, right? Well, the "Dark Side of the Moon Forum" would be like prison for posters and threads that are deemed unfit for the rest of the forum. Just like in real life, you don't go see the people who are in prison unless you really want to and the "Dark Side of the Moon Forum" would be exactly like that too. You won't see the "Dark Side of the Moon Forum" threads unless you really want to see them.

People who are banned could still be allowed to post in the "Dark Side of the Moon Forum" because everyone would know that only garbage goes to the void forum. I think that would remove the fascist label that the official forum is getting.

It would work for everyone, it wouldn't exclude anyone, it would be less work for the mods (people with questionable content would know to go DIRECTLY to the "Dark Side of the Moon Forum", meaning that the mods would have far less work to do), most importantly this concept would be far more in line with Icke's teachings and theories than the fascist system that's in place now, IMHO.

I've seen this work on two forums, both for rock bands. In one case they called the forum "post whoring forum", a place where people could post anything just to raise their post count, chat, or anything they wanted. In the other case, the forum was called "the void", and topics that were deemed unworthy in other forums were sent to the "the void." I've seen this idea work and I'm 100% for it!

societyisthematrix
12-02-2007, 12:07 PM
This is democracy in action. A real, honest democracy can be a beautiful thing. :cool:

jimijams
12-02-2007, 12:14 PM
This is democracy in action. A real, honest democracy can be a beautiful thing. :cool:
Yeah! Mob rules!:mad:

societyisthematrix
12-02-2007, 02:02 PM
Yeah! Mob rules!:mad:

Do you have a problem with the will of the people? What is a message board but it's members?

curthen
12-02-2007, 03:06 PM
But.
i believe the quote was
"people with questionable content would know to go DIRECTLY to the "Dark Side of the Moon Forum", meaning that the mods would have far less work to do".

That depends on how much work you mean.
Where is the line with deleting posts?:confused:

societyisthematrix
12-02-2007, 03:12 PM
But.
i believe the quote was
"people with questionable content would know to go DIRECTLY to the "Dark Side of the Moon Forum", meaning that the mods would have far less work to do".

That depends on how much work you mean.
Where is the line with deleting posts?:confused:

I know that sharing copyrighted materials here is absolutely prohibited. I would say stalking should be prohibited too but beyond that, I'm not sure. What do you think?

societyisthematrix
13-02-2007, 03:56 AM
I know the forum was closed for upgrades when I went to bed last night. Has this idea been put into place? The people here clearly want it, with a 12-2 vote and all.

sean
13-02-2007, 04:03 AM
We will have a dark side of the moon style forum, yes. It'll be put on shortly!

The upgrades were mainly for software. And also updated rules and clarification on the suitably renamed Spam Notice system.

curthen
13-02-2007, 04:03 AM
We have not been informed what the upgrades were SITM.
And i cannot see anything different from before last nights message that was on the screen when i tried logging in.
One must presume it was behind the scenes secret stuff to do with running the forum or something.
But it doesn't look like the area most voted yes for is in place yet.

curthen
13-02-2007, 04:09 AM
oh :D
ta!
What are the rules and regulations for the Dark side evil dwellers and what no-no's will be in place over there?
What can a moderator ban/remove posts/threads for etc?
I would prefer to stay on the Non Dark Side of the Moon myself.
But if something i would like to post that is not to everyones cuppa goes up in the Dark Side i would like to know the consequences.
Clarification would be appreciated:)
Not being pushy there is no rush:)

societyisthematrix
13-02-2007, 05:06 AM
We will have a dark side of the moon style forum, yes. It'll be put on shortly!

The upgrades were mainly for software. And also updated rules and clarification on the suitably renamed Spam Notice system.

That's wonderful news, thank you. :cool:

evolution
13-02-2007, 11:56 AM
Moderator drgonzo has stated that we have a window of time where voicing our opinions will be tolerated (proof *). I'm opening a democratic vote here, "Dark Side of the Moon Forum" (explanation of what this is below) Yes - You want to see it opened or No you don't want to see it opened. Please give your reasons for your vote.



I voted yes, here's my reasons:

IMHO, a "Dark Side of the Moon Forum" or "Bin Room" where threads that get out of hand could be moved to rather than closed could really work here. Here's my proposal:

The "Dark Side of the Moon Forum" would be like prison in the real life, if you're deemed unfit for the rest of society you're sent to prison, right? Well, the "Dark Side of the Moon Forum" would be like prison for posters and threads that are deemed unfit for the rest of the forum. Just like in real life, you don't go see the people who are in prison unless you really want to and the "Dark Side of the Moon Forum" would be exactly like that too. You won't see the "Dark Side of the Moon Forum" threads unless you really want to see them.

People who are banned could still be allowed to post in the "Dark Side of the Moon Forum" because everyone would know that only garbage goes to the void forum. I think that would remove the fascist label that the official forum is getting.

It would work for everyone, it wouldn't exclude anyone, it would be less work for the mods (people with questionable content would know to go DIRECTLY to the "Dark Side of the Moon Forum", meaning that the mods would have far less work to do), most importantly this concept would be far more in line with Icke's teachings and theories than the fascist system that's in place now, IMHO.

I've seen this work on two forums, both for rock bands. In one case they called the forum "post whoring forum", a place where people could post anything just to raise their post count, chat, or anything they wanted. In the other case, the forum was called "the void", and topics that were deemed unworthy in other forums were sent to the "the void." I've seen this idea work and I'm 100% for it!



I guess it wont hurt, but the question is why create a space for people who just want to send childish pictures and call each other names all day?.
This place is really easy going from what I have seen. When you don't have mods, the forum just gets hijacked by trolls and they just move in and make it theirs.... I think this place is fine as it is, all be it a few people trying to make trouble and make the mods fed up.

societyisthematrix
16-02-2007, 04:51 AM
I'm looking forward to the Dark Side of the Moon Forum style forum. When's the grand opening? :cool:

I guess it wont hurt, but the question is why create a space for people who just want to send childish pictures and call each other names all day?.
This place is really easy going from what I have seen. When you don't have mods, the forum just gets hijacked by trolls and they just move in and make it theirs.... I think this place is fine as it is, all be it a few people trying to make trouble and make the mods fed up.

IMHO, the new forum will be like the "free speech zones" in the USA, FYI:

When Bush travels around the United States, the Secret Service visits the location ahead of time and orders local police to set up “free speech zones” or “protest zones” where people opposed to Bush policies (and sometimes sign-carrying supporters) are quarantined. These zones routinely succeed in keeping protesters out of presidential sight and outside the view of media covering the event.

http://www.amconmag.com/12_15_03/feature.html

societyisthematrix
01-03-2007, 06:19 AM
We will have a dark side of the moon style forum, yes. It'll be put on shortly!

The upgrades were mainly for software. And also updated rules and clarification on the suitably renamed Spam Notice system.

I'm really looking forward to this. When is it coming? :cool:

tonto o_reilly
01-03-2007, 06:23 AM
Unsure at this stage SITM. I will find out for you.

TO

tru3
01-03-2007, 06:25 AM
oh :D
ta!
What are the rules and regulations for the Dark side evil dwellers and what no-no's will be in place over there?
What can a moderator ban/remove posts/threads for etc?
I would prefer to stay on the Non Dark Side of the Moon myself.
But if something i would like to post that is not to everyones cuppa goes up in the Dark Side i would like to know the consequences.
Clarification would be appreciated:)
Not being pushy there is no rush:)

i agree. is this like the bardo, where hungry ghosts wander for eternity? 3 and out? and while i'm at it, i would once again like to complement the mods on cleaning out the driftwood pretty early on in the game. the usual suspects from the old site are gone. the bardo also doesn't eliminate the issue of copyrighted material; you've isolated it, but you haven't eliminated it.

what about peer review? i have no desire ever to be a mod, but i'll bet a few of us would like to participate in the decision making process. does it have to be all or nothing? :confused:

tonto o_reilly
01-03-2007, 06:27 AM
If you have any suggestions, feel free to add them :)

TO

societyisthematrix
01-03-2007, 06:30 AM
Unsure at this stage SITM. I will find out for you.

TO

Thank you. :cool:

societyisthematrix
01-03-2007, 06:39 AM
If you have any suggestions, feel free to add them :)

TO

I believe that the rules should be very simple at the Dark Side of the Moon Forum, something like this: 1. No posting copyrighted material 2. No stalking

Any other ideas?

jimijams
01-03-2007, 06:46 AM
I've changed my mind on the dark side of the moon forum. If it can't be posted freely in any of the existing forums then I can't see what purpose would be served in posting it at all.

societyisthematrix
01-03-2007, 06:49 AM
I've changed my mind on the dark side of the moon forum. If it can't be posted freely in any of the existing forums then I can't see what purpose would be served in posting it at all.

Free thought and free speech must prevail, that's why. I know I'll be posting all my threads there. I will not let my thoughts be edited.

jimijams
01-03-2007, 06:52 AM
Free thought and free speech must prevail, that's why. I know I'll be posting all my threads there. I will not let my thoughts be edited.
What thoughts of yours do you think are being edited? Lets put them to the test SITM in this thread, where is it exactly you think you can't go?

societyisthematrix
01-03-2007, 07:12 AM
What thoughts of yours do you think are being edited? Lets put them to the test SITM in this thread, where is it exactly you think you can't go?

Perception is reality. I feel claustrophobic here like I'm being smothered. Trinity was banned although she was one of the best posters here. I've been accused of being very deceitful by thirdwave. I feel like my days are numbered and I don't like that feeling. This isn't about me anyway, nor is it about you.

The people have spoken in this poll and the overall majority want a Dark Side of the Moon style forum. Sean and several other moderators have said we're gonna have a Dark Side of the Moon style forum and it's in the works now. There's nothing left to debate except what the rules will be there.

Again, I think that the rules there should be very simple: no posting copyrighted material and no stalking sounds like enough to me. Anyone else have ideas on this?

jimijams
01-03-2007, 07:25 AM
Perception is reality. I feel claustrophobic here like I'm being smothered.
Thats not my perception.

Trinity was banned although she was one of the best posters here.
That is debatable

I've been accused of being very deceitful by thirdwave.
That is because you were posting here under multiple Id's

This isn't about me anyway, nor is it about you.
It's all about me, what ever gave you that idea?:D

The people have spoken in this poll and the overall majority want a Dark Side of the Moon style forum. Sean and several other moderators have said we're gonna have a Dark Side of the Moon style forum and it's in the works now. There's nothing left to debate except what the rules will be there.
I'm always dubious of people who claim to be spreading freedom and democracy.

Again, I think that the rules there should be very simple: no posting copyrighted material and no stalking sounds like enough to me. Anyone else have ideas on this?
Sounds fair, what about name calling and porn?

chocky pud
01-03-2007, 07:31 AM
Smothered? What do you mean by smothered SITM?
I don't get that. What exactly is it you want to say but feel you're not allowed to?

Personally I think a 'Dark Side' in the forum is a sucky idea, as it will segregate the forum, and that would be a shame now everybody is getting along in here so well. As for trinity? From what I can recall of her posts, the vast majority were one-worders or one-liners involving a lot of scarcasm that seemed to serve little purpose. If like you say she was one of the best posters here, then she (like a lot of the others that have now gone) sure didn't let it shine through!

Just my opinion.

societyisthematrix
01-03-2007, 10:40 AM
Sounds fair, what about name calling and porn?

Outlawing name calling and porn sounds fine to me.

societyisthematrix
01-03-2007, 10:47 AM
Personally I think a 'Dark Side' in the forum is a sucky idea, as it will segregate the forum

This forum has already been ethnically cleansed, metaphorically speaking. The 'Dark Side' forum will keep far more people here (like me) than it will drive away.

h1s_l0rdsh1p
01-03-2007, 11:37 AM
I voted "yes".

My reasoning behind it is, I don't want to go into a forum and see an interesting title, only to read it and learn that it's trash.

However, even if it's trash, it can still be amusing. Thus, I think it would be a better idea to move that thread into a room where such threads can continue.

However, certain rules would have to be layed down. I mean, sure I think it's funny if someone comes up with something witty and completely pwns the poster he was refering to, but things like death threats and such need to be dealt with in a better manner.

h1s_l0rdsh1p
01-03-2007, 11:40 AM
Outlawing name calling and porn sounds fine to me.

Not by me.

Ok, porn. I understand, you can get porn anywhere on the net, no point in bringing it here.

However, name calling..

Not sure, I mean. If someone's being a real dick, don't you just want to get that out of your system?

Prehaps it should go based on how it's delivered. Like, you can't say "You're a dick!" However, you could say something like "In my opinion, you're acting like a dick!"

Something like that.

societyisthematrix
01-03-2007, 11:59 AM
Not by me.

Ok, porn. I understand, you can get porn anywhere on the net, no point in bringing it here.

However, name calling..

Not sure, I mean. If someone's being a real dick, don't you just want to get that out of your system?

Prehaps it should go based on how it's delivered. Like, you can't say "You're a dick!" However, you could say something like "In my opinion, you're acting like a dick!"

Something like that.

The thing that bothers me about this is that the forum mods here were labeling people as "trolls" at the same time they were banning people for name calling. Try figuring that out. Calling someone a troll is in fact name calling.

societyisthematrix
01-03-2007, 12:03 PM
I voted "yes".

My reasoning behind it is, I don't want to go into a forum and see an interesting title, only to read it and learn that it's trash.

However, even if it's trash, it can still be amusing. Thus, I think it would be a better idea to move that thread into a room where such threads can continue.


Absolutely. I wish this thread wasn't closed: http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1405

When the Dark Side of the Moon Forum opens up, the discussion will be able to continue on there. :cool: It's a good solution for all.

h1s_l0rdsh1p
01-03-2007, 12:05 PM
The thing that bothers me about this is that the forum mods here were labeling people as "trolls" at the same time they were banning people for name calling. Try figuring that out. Calling someone a troll is in fact name calling.

No, it's not.

A troll is someone that, in a forum environments, will go out of their way to "derail"(change the topic of discussion) the topic of the thread.

So, it's not like they are calling them a ugly little thing living under a bridge, they are just giving them their proper name by forum definitions.

societyisthematrix
01-03-2007, 12:14 PM
No, it's not.

A troll is someone that, in a forum environments, will go out of their way to "derail"(change the topic of discussion) the topic of the thread.

So, it's not like they are calling them a ugly little thing living under a bridge, they are just giving them their proper name by forum definitions.

Well, by the same token, I could be a professional psychologist and call a poster "schizoid" by using a professional examination of the person's posts. Now, calling someone "schizoid" could be construed as malicious name calling despite the fact that it's a clinical diagnosis.

I feel the same way about labeling someone a "troll", I think it's name calling.

h1s_l0rdsh1p
01-03-2007, 12:17 PM
Well, by the same token, I could be a professional psychologist and call a poster "schizoid" by using a professional examination of the person's posts. Now, calling someone "schizoid" could be construed as malicious name calling despite the fact that it's a clinical diagnosis.

I feel the same way about labeling someone a "troll", I think it's name calling.

I think one would have to explain why he called him a schizoid, but I'm saying that direct name calling should not be held up, but rather, if you form your sentence to make it seem as though you are speaking about how you feel the person is acting, then it should be alright..

societyisthematrix
01-03-2007, 12:21 PM
I think one would have to explain why he called him a schizoid, but I'm saying that direct name calling should not be held up, but rather, if you form your sentence to make it seem as though you are speaking about how you feel the person is acting, then it should be alright..

That's an excellent point. It's like now, I could say, you're a good "debater", is that name calling? I think calling someone a "debater" could be construed as name calling.

But, if I said, "You're a good debater because you bring up valid points to support your arguments." I don't see how anyone could have a problem with that.

jimijams
01-03-2007, 12:23 PM
Not by me.

Ok, porn. I understand, you can get porn anywhere on the net, no point in bringing it here.

However, name calling..

Not sure, I mean. If someone's being a real dick, don't you just want to get that out of your system?

Prehaps it should go based on how it's delivered. Like, you can't say "You're a dick!" However, you could say something like "In my opinion, you're acting like a dick!"

Something like that.
Can't you see you're invoking the law of attraction here? Build it and they will come.
The concensious on this forum seems to want to be moving away from the dark rather than creating new places for it to inhabit.

h1s_l0rdsh1p
01-03-2007, 12:24 PM
That's an excellent point. It's like now, I could say, you're a good "debater", is that name calling? I think calling someone a "debater" could be construed as name calling.

But, if I said, "You're a good debater because you bring up valid points to support your arguments." I don't see how anyone could have a problem with that.

Exactly. It's how you construct your sentence, and present it.

So, constructive criticism in a valid and constructive statement should be allowed. IMO ;)

jimijams
01-03-2007, 12:27 PM
Exactly. It's how you construct your sentence, and present it.

So, constructive criticism in a valid and constructive statement should be allowed. IMO ;)
Exactly, so why the need to create another forum?

societyisthematrix
01-03-2007, 12:30 PM
Can't you see you're invoking the law of attraction here? Build it and they will come.


What are you talking about? First of all, this is about freedom of speech/thought. It's a place where basically anything can be posted, whether it's silly and off topic or whatever. I personally love that stuff sometimes. The "Dark Side" forum would be a place where threads that are unwanted by the majority could be continued by the minority that want them. That's not dark, that's freedom


The concensious on this forum seems to want to be moving away from the dark rather than creating new places for it to inhabit.

The majority of the posters on this board want the Dark Side of the Moon Forum. The vote is 16-5 right now for it. How can you ignore that and say that the majority don't want it?

h1s_l0rdsh1p
01-03-2007, 12:31 PM
Exactly, so why the need to create another forum?

Because the other forum will be for threads that have been "heavily derailed" from it's original topic, and instead of deleting them, we should keep them because their may be comments you'd still like to make about the original subject.
Plus, it can be something amusing, based on what is being said...

societyisthematrix
01-03-2007, 12:34 PM
Because the other forum will be for threads that have been "heavily derailed" from it's original topic, and instead of deleting them, we should keep them because their may be comments you'd still like to make about the original subject.
Plus, it can be something amusing, based on what is being said...

Right and how about topics that aren't allowed like this: http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1405

I still want to discuss this and because the illusions forum is blocked where I live, I can't discuss "The Forum" and what's happened to it. I'm very sad about that.

jimijams
01-03-2007, 12:41 PM
Right and how about topics that aren't allowed like this: http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1405

I still want to discuss this and because the illusions forum is blocked where I live, I can't discuss "The Forum" and what's happened to it. I'm very sad about that.
Fair enough, but there is also the PM function if you want to get in contact with particular members to discuss problems at other forums.

societyisthematrix
01-03-2007, 12:44 PM
Fair enough, but there is also the PM function if you want to get in contact with particular members to discuss problems at other forums.

It's not that simple, people are using different usernames here than they usually do. I'm really looking forward to the Dark Side of the Moon Forum and I'm glad Sean has chosen to do it. :cool:

h1s_l0rdsh1p
01-03-2007, 12:44 PM
Right and how about topics that aren't allowed like this: http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1405

I still want to discuss this and because the illusions forum is blocked where I live, I can't discuss "The Forum" and what's happened to it. I'm very sad about that.
I can understand why they closed it. But I also see the reason why you'd want to keep discussing it.

Fair enough, but there is also the PM function if you want to get in contact with particular members to discuss problems at other forums.
True, but then that's acting just like the illuminati. Keeping the information for yourself and no one else.
;)

jimijams
01-03-2007, 12:46 PM
True, but then that's acting just like the illuminati. Keeping the information for yourself and no one else.
;)
Thats a bit of a stretch.

h1s_l0rdsh1p
01-03-2007, 12:48 PM
Thats a bit of a stretch.

Not entirely.
The pm system is for personal use between you and another.

If it's something that is just open knowledge, why discuss it by yourself with someone else?

geo2
01-03-2007, 12:50 PM
:rolleyes: :) why call it a 'prison' or any negative name ...its the 'Dark-Side',bring the LIGHT................
let the 'elders' guide the 'flow'................

N if ones dont like the 'Tribe', let 'em' move-on n even make their 'own-thing'...whatever, 'floats-their-boat' n what-ever floats the boat, may it work-out.....LOLove !:eek: :cool:

Ave Maria ! from-the-dark-side-of-Moon ! in Blue n etc ! INFINITY

:) :D :rolleyes:

i_am
01-03-2007, 12:50 PM
The majority of the posters on this board want the Dark Side of the Moon Forum. The vote is 16-5 right now for it. How can you ignore that and say that the majority don't want it?

Ummmm! Actually the majority don't really seem to give a toss. This forum has around 3,500 members .....and 21 have voted???

jimijams
01-03-2007, 12:52 PM
Not entirely.
The pm system is for personal use between you and another.

If it's something that is just open knowledge, why discuss it by yourself with someone else?
Same reason as I don't discuss my marriage here. There can be such a thing as too much information.

h1s_l0rdsh1p
01-03-2007, 12:53 PM
:rolleyes: :) why call it a 'prison' or any negative name ...its the 'Dark-Side',bring the LIGHT................
let the 'elders' guide the 'flow'................

N if ones dont like the 'Tribe', let 'em' move-on n even make their 'own-thing'...whatever, 'floats-their-boat' n what-ever floats the boat, may it work-out.....LOLove !:eek: :cool:

Ave Maria ! from-the-dark-side-of-Moon ! in Blue n etc ! INFINITY

:) :D :rolleyes:

Perfect occassion to show what "constructive criticism" is.

I'm just wondering; are you sober at this moment? It doesn't seem like it from your last post. :confused:

h1s_l0rdsh1p
01-03-2007, 12:54 PM
Ummmm! Actually the majority don't really seem to give a toss. This forum has around 3,500 members .....and 21 have voted???

How old is this forum?

geo2
01-03-2007, 01:01 PM
'sober', like the the 'believers at hign NOON, utilize, dont, analize at times...LOLove n dont worry bout 'it' { just geo-speak }

ave maria ! keep-on-dancin/flyin, mmmmmmmmmmom/sis/bro ! Infinity

:o :rolleyes: :cool:

tonto o_reilly
01-03-2007, 01:05 PM
I just look at this thread and think to myself.......
wow how easy it is to actually distract people away from what they are apparently here for.
I am interested in knowing what exactly it is that certain members here actually want? This is a forum for people to gain and learn I would have thought.
I have just done a search of the internet and there are literally thousands of forums where people can go to talk as much shit as they want about anything they want. So why choose this one? Then sire that it is all in the name of freedom? This is completely pathetic.

How about this....If you dont like it here and you don't feel you cant say what you want to say and you do not like our guidelines which are here for the credibility of this forum GO AWAY! No one is holding a gun at your head...you have the freedom to LEAVE.

I have seen young toddlers act more intelligently.

TO

societyisthematrix
01-03-2007, 01:14 PM
Not entirely.
The pm system is for personal use between you and another.

If it's something that is just open knowledge, why discuss it by yourself with someone else?

That's right. I come here to share my ideas with everyone. I don't like PMing at all, I want everyone to have access to what I write because then everyone can give me input and new ideas. I agree with you, h1s_l0rdsh1p, everything should be open on a message board. Keeping things secret is the beginning of conspiracies and all types of darkness, everything should be as open as possible.

h1s_l0rdsh1p
01-03-2007, 01:15 PM
I just look at this thread and think to myself.......
wow how easy it is to actually distract people away from what they are apparently here for.
I am interested in knowing what exactly it is that certain members here actually want? This is a forum for people to gain and learn I would have thought.
I have just done a search of the internet and there are literally thousands of forums where people can go to talk as much shit as they want about anything they want. So why choose this one? Then sire that it is all in the name of freedom? This is completely pathetic.

How about this....If you dont like it here and you don't feel you cant say what you want to say and you do not like our guidelines which are here for the credibility of this forum GO AWAY! No one is holding a gun at your head...you have the freedom to LEAVE.

I have seen young toddlers act more intelligently.

TO

To, please relax.

I'm defending this so people can "talk shit".
There should be a place where, if the mods feel a thread should be closed, but think that people will ask for it to be re-opened for more discussion of the topic, then why not just save some room in your pm inbox, and have a new part of the forums with a popular name?

However, I am not defending things being said like Miss geo2 is saying. (in this thread)
Honestly, I am a no bullshit kind of person. And if you have reasonable argument, and feel that it needs to be said, then you should.

societyisthematrix
01-03-2007, 01:22 PM
I am interested in knowing what exactly it is that certain members here actually want? This is a forum for people to gain and learn I would have thought.
I have just done a search of the internet and there are literally thousands of forums where people can go to talk as much shit as they want about anything they want. So why choose this one?

I want freedom of speech and thought.

Are you the same person who sent me this PM just today:


we have all been very busy with new subscriptions etc and with the forum going down last week etc, the dark side of the moon forum was overlooked.

it is now posted at the top of mod panel.
:D

TO

What's going on here? Sean has promised this new forum. You, thirdwave, drgonzo, and teslafire (all moderators) have expressed their support for this (plus the overwhelming majority in this thread voting for it). You already told me today that it's "at the top of mod panel" and coming soon and now you post this? What's going on here?

tonto o_reilly
01-03-2007, 01:22 PM
Im always relaxed :)
I just wish some people would actually take the time to read some of the amazing information being posted on this forum, and less time moaning about something as ridiculous as this.
There are plenty of other forums to talk crap. One recently closed down I hear. But there are others........Plenty of them.
Personally I think this forum needs standards as we have all seen what happens when there are none.

TO

tonto o_reilly
01-03-2007, 01:23 PM
I expressed to you I would remind and inform Sean....of what HE said. I have not voted.I did post this at top of the mod panel for him to see along with everyone else. This ultimately is not my decision. I addressed your query and did my job.I did not say it was coming soon.

Thanks
TO

h1s_l0rdsh1p
01-03-2007, 01:31 PM
Im always relaxed :)
I just wish some people would actually take the time to read some of the amazing information being posted on this forum, and less time moaning about something as ridiculous as this.
There are plenty of other forums to talk crap. One recently closed down I hear. But there are others........Plenty of them.
Personally I think this forum needs standards as we have all seen what happens when there are none.

TO

I understand what you're saying.

Trust me. I used to be part of one.

Of course every place needs standards. But I don't think "standards" is the right word for it. I think a "social understanding" is better.

Frankly, this is a place for many of the things D.I. has talked about, and we can discuss it here, and bring up new issues dealing in the same area. Possibly make a friend or two while we're here (;) )..

And that's what people need to understand. However, for a social community to work, there are many things that need to be discussed. And the mods can lay down rules, but if people feel there may need to be room for change or review certain rules or understandings, then we should all discuss it.

No body has still answered me about how old this forum is though.

societyisthematrix
01-03-2007, 01:32 PM
I expressed to you I would remind and inform Sean....of what HE said. I have not voted.I did post this at top of the mod panel for him to see along with everyone else. This ultimately is not my decision. I addressed your query and did my job.I did not say it was coming soon.

Thanks
TO

What did HE say? You just called this a "ridiculous" idea. You didn't have that opinion earlier today:

I will have a chat to Sean when he is online next and will post this question to him in the moderators panel, and get clarification on this issue for you

Thanks for your patience
TO

I will have a chat to Sean when he is online next and will post this question to him in the moderators panel, and get clarification on this issue for you

Thanks for your patience
TO

I really appreciate that. That's fantastic thank you. :cool:
No Prob

we have all been very busy with new subscriptions etc and with the forum going down last week etc, the dark side of the moon forum was overlooked.

it is now posted at the top of mod panel.
:D

TO

I will have a chat to Sean when he is online next and will post this question to him in the moderators panel, and get clarification on this issue for you

Thanks for your patience
TO

I really appreciate that. That's fantastic thank you. :cool:
No Prob

we have all been very busy with new subscriptions etc and with the forum going down last week etc, the dark side of the moon forum was overlooked.

it is now posted at the top of mod panel.
:D

TO

That's great, thank you. I think it's gonna be my new internet home. :D

:D

tonto o_reilly
01-03-2007, 01:34 PM
I understand what you're saying.

Trust me. I used to be part of one.

Of course every place needs standards. But I don't think "standards" is the right word for it. I think a "social understanding" is better.

Frankly, this is a place for many of the things D.I. has talked about, and we can discuss it here, and bring up new issues dealing in the same area. Possibly make a friend or two while we're here (;) )..

And that's what people need to understand. However, for a social community to work, there are many things that need to be discussed. And the mods can lay down rules, but if people feel there may need to be room for change or review certain rules or understandings, then we should all discuss it.

No body has still answered me about how old this forum is though.

agreed, but you are seeing it from the other side of the fence.
There are people here who do wish to destroy forums which are running well.I am not accusing anyone just saying it as I see it.
There are only a handful complaining. Everyone else is happily posting away and have no problem. Think about that.

TO

tonto o_reilly
01-03-2007, 01:36 PM
What did HE say? You just called this a "ridiculous" idea. You didn't have that opinion earlier today:

I had no opinion, I was helping to clarify something for you and get the message to the one who needed to get it.

I dont express my personal opinions when doing my job. You were querying something, and I did my best to get it to the person who needed to hear this query. Is this not what you expect from us mods?

But i am entitled to my freedom of speech on this forum like everyone else

TO

societyisthematrix
01-03-2007, 01:38 PM
agreed, but you are seeing it from the other side of the fence.
There are people here who do wish to destroy forums which are running well.I am not accusing anyone just saying it as I see it.
There are only a handful complaining. Everyone else is happily posting away and have no problem. Think about that.

TO

Sean promised the Dark Side of the Moon forum quite a while ago. If the head moderator won't keep his word, a site is worthless. I have confidence that he will keep his word.

h1s_l0rdsh1p
01-03-2007, 01:40 PM
agreed, but you are seeing it from the other side of the fence.
There are people here who do wish to destroy forums which are running well.I am not accusing anyone just saying it as I see it.
There are only a handful complaining. Everyone else is happily posting away and have no problem. Think about that.

TO

Point well made..

When look at the stats, it does seem pointless at this point in time. We do need to get everyone involved.

However, you will have people here only to read and watch.

tonto o_reilly
01-03-2007, 02:55 PM
All queries in regard to this topic have been forwarded to Sean.
It would seem this is turning into a moderator bashing thread.
I directed the queries raised to where they needed to go, as I always do.
This thread was a poll. And will be left for posters to view but is being closed.