Using the prison .

[tracker]

Handy hints on How to use the prison .

before you post beware please ;
this
Is not a thread based upon what reality is !
How its made !
How it connects to our mind !
Or the nature of reality !
SO ---please -none of this "Life is an illusion" philosophies please or -that I am premoting the prison . this is about -----"USING THE PRISON" and making it easier for folks to move about in .
Now that this is said , i can carry on .

Our situation it seems is one of madness .
We live in a prison that we cannot see/hear/feel or touch , yet everyday around us , everything shows us that we live in a system run prison that was not of our creation . We were born into it . Like our parents , we had no choice , we didn't know it was there . Like them we assimilated every millisecond of information , passed down from generation to generation .

We are however at an advantage as we know about this prison .
We have come to recognise that our education is indeed indoctrination .
Science is full of one sided information .
Religion destroys spiritual growth .
Medicine destroy health .
Wanting to be free encourages others around us to imprison us with ridicule / slander , character attack and mental and emotional abuse .

The over all program is to have us all follow a doctrine of behaviour of full compliance with no questioning . Obeying with out thought , and to follow blindly .
All in the insane absurdity , of creating a one world reality , where humans become nothing more than robots .

So how to we use what we have ?

To break free we must understand the prison we are in and the prison rules .
From there we need to know how the inmates act , what is the inmates language ? what are their weaknesses and how do we use them ? aswell as using them with out drawing bad attention towards us .

The prison rules can be broken and bent .
The inmates are Barrock , easily influenced by their peers , insecure , greedy , lazy minded and mainly Naive .
There are other inmates who are not so easily lead and do know what is happening , whilst some may not there are others who will be a have a go hero or will stand up for anyone going through an injustice . these people can be found but are rare and number about 1 in 10 people .
So don't go making up your mind about every one around you , but do be aware that 9 out of ten people usually fall within the range of the inmate mentality . some of Your friends and family will be among them .

You have to learn a couple of facts before you can truly run around within the prison unhindered and unmolested mentally and emotionally before you start to help others break free .






1 ) never under-estimate the inmate .
2 ) If it came to the crunch , you might fond your self standing alone facing some of your best friends in the end .
3 ) Never rely on anyone but your self to get a job done .
4 ) Don't be fooled by double think tactics .
5 ) Never just blurt out what you know needlessly to other inmates , they will not like you for going against the grain. It is an automatic mental reflex of their programming to fight an individual who has their own mind , so don't go in thinking that what you know will make them like you or make you look clever . it can work against you .
6 ) Use stealth when concerning bringing up certain subjects . Just pop in the odd comment here and there , pick your time carefully and don't always give out too much , this will leave them wondering and might induce the idea that they want to know more . this needs tact . many people have just blurted out that they have discovered the big prison just to find them self at the end of family disputes , falling out with loved ones etc . This isn't so much because of different opinions , but more over because how fast and how much info the free walker gives out during specific times .It can make them look weird to the inmates .
7 ) always question everything , including what you think you know !
8 ) Understand the prison and use it .


HANDY HINTS .
the handy hints section highlights how you can use the prison system to move around more freely with out suspicion .
It can show you how to appear as an inmate whilst offering you twice the ability to gain freedom aswell as informing other inmates of what is going on .
This can make you a super Chameleon where the best of both worlds apply .

There are a few ways to appear as the normal inmate .
1 ) get a dead end job .
Its not the best that the system has to offer but is atleast a cover . It shows on the prison system that you are the everyday normal joe blogs inmate and will not draw any unwarranted attention .
You income will be low , your outgoings high , but if you can learn to be happy with life it self , and are also happy with your self , its an easy option but does have draw backs .
DRAW BACKS .
In the worst case scenario , if the SHTF , you will not be highly sorted or regarded and will be treated as the bottom of the line .This does mean if the crunch came , you can be less important than say ---- a DR / Therapist / Engineer /Dentist etc .

These positions in life are more regarded and sort for during bad times than say -- a pallet stacker , or a toilet cleaner . Its not saying that cleaning toilets is bad position to have , its just the facts , In any case , I clean my loo quite often , I see nothing wrong in it and have great pride knowing that someone would sit on it with out feeling threatened by scum , so there you have it , Im just giving the facts .

Going for certificates is a good idea .
it can make you qualified , and also serves as a written statement of achievements . Big brother likes certified people and the system runs on this idea , so if you want to move around more freely and gain potential to earn more money to allow you to help create more wealth and the ability for funds making your own freedom leaflets or web sites , certificates are a good way to get this going . certificates will give you an edge where you may not have had them before .
they also give you the prospect of going self employed , where the freedom to wake up as and when you want can be achieved . Some people who are self employed do nothing but work work work , which tends to actually go against the idea . So if you do pick this option , know that it means going to college or doing a home course which is quite common now and can be done over the net .
get it whilst you can folks , the Internet will soon be so hard to move around on .

You could pick the unemployed position .
needless to say you will become the bottom of the barrel as far as the big brother is concerned .

If you are going for the cert option , this will allow you to move in greater circles and can open doors in a way you never knew possible .


HINTS .
1 ) never under-estimate the inmate .
Some people do know whats going on but stay quiet . You may think that they are two faced but this might not be so . Maybe they've done it all before and have learned not to jump in head 1st .
The average inmate doesnt have a lot of knowledge . So if the SHTF , they would be fast in the shops during hard times panic buying , pushing in , panicking . This can raise their aggression levels , so be aware , a starving inmate might will betray you to big brother if it means getting their tummies full . To them they might think that they are buying them self more freedom . this we know will be false , but you will not be able to reason with them , so be careful . Telling every one you have supplies , or know that bla bla did such and such , can get you into trouble .
When concerning info , allow the inmate to bring up the subject and wait for them to ask you , don't just roll off ten pages of the dead sea scrolls with conspiracy after conspiracy , as this will kick in their programming and they will fight you for that . Some will punish you aswell , even close loved ones are not immune to the system programs , so be aware , blurting out everything you know in ten minutes can harm your social life .
Pick your time carefully , only drop in the odd hint ,
you could say , well I was just googling away and there was a link , i followed it and it said this ; ( just give a small one or two line info chat ) then back it up and say -------"well I didn't read everything but from what I read it seemed as though what we think we know isn't always ---so . I was going to read on but it seemed pretty serious".
if someone then says "Oh it sounds like a conspiracy" -----return with this ----------" Well Im not so sure , but if you think it is a conspiracy you have an obligation to do something about it".
you could then keep this as a make safe stand should they try to bounce it back to you ----------------"Well I was just browsing and briefly went past it , if you want to know more google it your self and see and come back to me on it"----------------------its a good tactic and does work . This also stops control points that inmates can have over you . this way they cant call you paranoid -------as it will be them who appears paranoid if they keep asking , so this can work .


2 ) If it came to the crunch , you might fond your self standing alone facing some of your best friends in the end .
never ever think that you have some one watching your back .
its the biggest mistake through out history .
I can see it now , JFK is an example of where trust can get you .
many folks have found out that blurting out what they know relentlessly , can in the end have them at the bad stick of close family and friends .
They will call you weird .
they will try intimidation tactics like ----be careful son , your upsetting the broth , or -----------don't cause trouble , you'll get arrested , or even worse --------be careful , your paranoia will make the social services take ya kids away .
this is the reaction from the inmates . As you can see , they indeed suffer the paranoia , and will do and claim everything to keep your mouth shut . it really is a shame that truth gets this response . just be aware , that even though their fearful state of paranoia is placed and blamed upon you , it is their misguided attentions and accusations that can actually bring unwarranted attention your way in the 1st place . so make sure you don't forget this .


3 ) Never rely on anyone but your self to get a job done .
Need I say any more ? How does the song go ?
Should have , would have , could have , are the last words of a fool .


4 ) Don't be fooled by double think tactics .
This can be seen in the hint number 2 .


I now miss a few as these have already been addressed , I now bring you to point ;
7 ) always question everything , including what you think you know !
Don't always take every ones word for it , not even if it is in black and white , follow it up if you are going to believe it .
there is nothing worse than having a mind full of info that could be false . For a fine example of this go to any church or vicar .

MORE HINTS .

1 ) NEVER TELL ANY ONE AT WORK YOUR PERSONAL PROBLEMS / LOVE LIFE AND/ OR ANYTHING OF YOUR PERSONAL LIFE ------KEEP IT PROFESIONAL !

2 ) DONT LEND OUT TOOLS --------THEY ALWAYS COME BACK BROKEN OR LATE OR NOT AT ALL .

3 ) DONT WORK YOUR GUTS OFF IN A NEW JOB AS THEY WILL EXPECT THIS ALL THE TIME , ONCE YOUR IN THE DOOR , THATS IT , YOUVE GOT THE JOB , SO DONT WORK TOO HARD , ALWAYS MAINTAIN A STEADY FLOW .

4 ) ALWAYS PREPARE TO DO THING ALONE , THIS WAY YOU GET THE JOB DONE YOUR WAY .
if it doesnt go to plan atleast you only have your self to blame and can learn from it .Im not saying do everything alone , im just saying , that learning to do things on your own has great benefits .

5 ) LEARN THE WAYS OF THE PRISON SYSTEM , LANGUAGE AND ACTIONS . It will help you move about more easily .

6 ) LEARN TO LIVE APART FROM THE SYSTEM !
Survival tactics , growing food , gathering wild foods , making shelters etc . This is handy knowledge , because only until you learn this truly brilliant subject , will you know that you have the true ability to live with out the system . it might come to that one day , lets just hope it doesnt , but until then , it never hurts to gain knowledge .

7 ) UNDERSTAND THAT KNOWLEDGE IS POTENTIAL POWER , ITS HOW THE ELITE WORK .
Why do you think they can rule so many inmates ? because they have the knowledge to use -------dis info against inmates .

8 )ALWAYS HAVE SOME GOOD AND BAD CLOTHES . A GOOD SUIT CAN HELP YOU MIX WITH HIGH TOFFY FACED FOLKS WHILST A PAIR OF STRAGGY RIPPED JEANS CAN HELP YOU MOVE AROUND CRIME RIDDLED ESTATES ETC .


9 ) LEARN HOW THE PHILOSOPHIES OF THE INMATES HOLD THEM BACK / HOW YOUR OWN PHILOSOPHIES CAN HOLD YOU DOWN , WHY YOU MIGHT ALWAYS GET THE BLAMS AND TAKEN THE MICKY OUT OF BY LOOKING AT THE FOLLOWING THREADS .

The prison can be used , it can be bent and rules can be broken .SEE BELOW ;



If you have had a bad past you can change it .

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=67667


Why is it me/you because you are the one .

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=47889

learn how the inmates philosophies actually hold them in prisons that prevent them advancing .

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=46569

Philosophies of the inmates that can make you fail if you practice them in mind .

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=46436

How our own philosophies hold us down .

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=46414

and finally

Misfits / society regects -- is this you .

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=46282



if you don't want to learn the prison rules and how the inmates act , then don't go blaming the world when it all comes down on you and you cant make it work or get things through to people you love .
you will have your self to blame .

I hope this helps you , as some of these rules have helped me .

Some people do claim to wish to help set other peoples minds free by telling them that learning about the system only clutters the mind .
well what a grand way to keep them inprisoned with double think .
Believe me --- this new age philosophy will not set you free , you will always be part of the prison no matter how you look upon it , your food , your water , is all part of the 3d prison , so you can never be totally free and the claims layed down by new agers is false , freeing the mind ? NOPE ! all they are doing is premoting their ideas .
If you want to move around the prison more freely , you have to learn about the rules and the inmates .
These new agers claim that this thread will premote being more so inprisoned and will claim that their way will set you free , whils then admitting that you are never truly free from the prison .

look at this thread that highlights just a small part of that truth .

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=76165

it doesnt get simpler than that .

[tracker]

It doesnt mean you are a prisoner just because you have learned how to use the rules .:cool:

[tracker]

Some say that the more you try to gain certificates and a career , the more you become prisoner .
Not true !
Not if you are aware of the prison .

you can use a career to btter your ability to move around and also better your chances of being more valued when the SHTF , this is why I became an engineer .

Prudent planning .
:cool:

[j35p3r4d0]

The Prison exists as....

Material reality (the last conquest of human conciousness)
Financial/ Physical excess
General societal and empathic apathy
anything less than a forward eye, a true heart, and the resolution to fight for something better.


DO NOT get an office job
DO NOT get more pieces of paper so you can buy a car
DO NOT hide from the reality of the situation. IMMEDIATE ACTION.


HOMEWORK:

8 CIRCUIT MODEL OF HUMAN CONCIOUSNESS
If you are to decode reality, you must first decode yourself.


http://deoxy.org/8brains.htm

http://deoxy.org/img/7chak_colors_signs_circuitscopy.jpg

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a319/abraxas23/tw.jpg

[tracker]

This does not help people use the system .

you have completely missed the plot of this thread .

The last thing I want is unreasonable none compromising "reality is an Illusion" philosophers on this thread .
Make one of your own if you feel the need to get this Illusinary info out .

I am stating how to use the prison and knowing how to walk around in stealth with the inmates etc , you are on another dimension of this topic entirely .
If life was such an Illusion and you believe it why dont you stop eating and drinking and living an an Illusions house and use Illusionary gas and electric ?
I will tell you why
because like my thread , you are using the prison to live , and thats what I am doing , so stop this none sense and find something else to do and some one else to fool .
:cool:

[j35p3r4d0]

Every person you know who maintains a material-centric life is an "inmate", They have been sold short a thousand times.

I think you mean "Illusionary".

While you need to eat, this information is beyond that entirely, and will be of great use to many who adopt its measures.

Reality is not an illusion, reality is a multi-layered self-cohering super-conciousness. With many more levels than 3 you can walk in physically.

Same dimension : you don't need to hide crap from anyone, as a basic rule, things viewed as extra-ordinary will land you in a psychiatric facility before you convince anyone, just don't blurt out crazy stuff to those who cant take it.

No need to "stealth" on the 'inmates'

YOU should be freeing them, Bro

[j35p3r4d0]

i aint foolin' anyone.

That there structure of ideology forms an unbreakable quantum construct, i have used it myself many a time for many a mental projection AND progression.

It is a wealth of knowledge, as old as the pyramids. it depicts space and time in it's constant structure.

It's like astral nuke-sauce for all the happy snake kiddies.

[tracker]

You need to learn how the inmates act , what the prison rules are to get about .

you are not grasping the concept of this thread .

I shall now offer my peace with you and tell you that I shall not entertain you on this subject be it agree or dissagree .this is not a thread about the concept of reality , do you understand this ? it is not about the concept of what reality is and is not about whats its made of or how its made .

with respect I say


good day to you .

:cool:

[j35p3r4d0]

there are no prison rules, there are illusions swept on numerous billions to the effect that they have nothing beyond their job qualifications and income and house.


The prison IS the illusion. Grasp the power.

edit: you do not become a man by following sheep

[tracker]

I have changed my mind in repllying to you , 1stly I have re-edited the OP at the top to stop any confusion .
however ; on the note of confusion , I can still see that you have completely not got the concpet of this thread , as where I ---------also did confuse your post .

Allow me if you will , i also believe that reality is not an Illusion , ( as you have also said this ) I am sure you understand why I am attemtping to get through to people some of the concepts that can help them move "more freely within the prison".

I have made athread called , lies that enlightened people believe and preach to us .
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=68277

If you click the link you will find some common factor in both my and your thoughts on the matter .
I think it would be great and probably even fantastic if you were to create a thread on this concept .

your philosophy seems real , unlike the Illusanary concepts that go round and round in cricles when the so called enlightened ones seem to force their opinion upon others that they think life is an Illusion .I find this idea tottaly rubbish because if they really believed it they wouldnt eat sleep or drinkthe illusion .

so with that in mind , I shall now carry on making parts of "HOW TO USE -------------"HOW TO USE" -----------HOW TO USE ----THE PRISON "
so that others can use the information to get about more easily and less unhindered .

Again this is not a thread about what reality is
what its made of
how we perceive it .
or even the nature of reality .

its based on "how to------------USE--------the prison rules ------------to get about more freely "

:cool:

[tracker]

Here is another thread that warns about how enlightened people always push their new age religion upon you and insist that thinking for your self is wrong .

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=76165

its a smart way to keep peoples minds in a state of fear of progessing and thinking for them self .

:cool:

[curtaincat]

there are no prison rules, there are illusions swept on numerous billions to the effect that they have nothing beyond their job qualifications and income and house.


The prison IS the illusion. Grasp the power.

edit: you do not become a man by following sheep

dear j35etc

if there is one thing that i have learnt on this forum , ( and i have learned 2 things, the 2nd one is unmentionable, ), is that it is very polite to not , ever, derail someone elses thread. In here, everyone who has put a huge amount of effort into a thread wants people to respect and continue with their thoughts, that is really fair enough.

What you put in j35 is very interesting, so start a thread about it! I have always found deoxy quite interesting. but the link and stuff you put in was not going along with the thread.

i have made this mistake myself... i thought if i put some stuff in, it would all be absorbed and taken for interesting, but no... one has to start ones own thread. so far, i have been treated fairly kindly, because they know i come in peace, lol.
deoxy is really interesting, but if Tracker, for instance, feels it is derailing his thread, that is the way it is here, from what i can tell.

So, i now know that if someone makes a Thread, it is theirs, and i gotta respect it!

It is not easy, i am used to more easy going forums, but this is the most interesting one for me, lately. ... and yes, i do love trackers stuff. not to say i didnt like your stuff. it is just considered 'de-railing', and that you werent reading his stuff. he works really hard to help everyone. and i , for one, support him. :)

[tracker]

dear j35etc

if there is one thing that i have learnt on this forum , ( and i have learned 2 things, the 2nd one is unmentionable, ), is that it is very polite to not , ever, derail someone elses thread. In here, everyone who has put a huge amount of effort into a thread wants people to respect and continue with their thoughts, that is really fair enough.

What you put in j35 is very interesting, so start a thread about it! I have always found deoxy quite interesting. but the link and stuff you put in was not going along with the thread.

i have made this mistake myself... i thought if i put some stuff in, it would all be absorbed and taken for interesting, but no... one has to start ones own thread. so far, i have been treated fairly kindly, because they know i come in peace, lol.
deoxy is really interesting, but if Tracker, for instance, feels it is derailing his thread, that is the way it is here, from what i can tell.

So, i now know that if someone makes a Thread, it is theirs, and i gotta respect it!

It is not easy, i am used to more easy going forums, but this is the most interesting one for me, lately. ... and yes, i do love trackers stuff. not to say i didnt like your stuff. it is just considered 'de-railing', and that you werent reading his stuff. he works really hard to help everyone. and i , for one, support him. :)


you know what crutaincat ;
I have learned so much from you here .

again ------yet again --------I find my self flattered by your actions yet again .

thankyou for sticking up for me because I am finding many people missunderstanding me .

yet you seem to understand my threads all the time and your input is always considerate / thoughtfull and also enlightning .

yes j35 does have a real good sense of this stuff and truly I can see just how much potential that a thread of that topic would have .

I would sertainly spend time reading it thats for sure .

[curtaincat]

thanks tracker :o

now i feel i have to post something profound!!!:p

but i wont, i just wish more people would read this thread ... from the BEginning! from page one! READ what is written and please learn everybody ,
becos it is worth it.!
and if something like the Noah's Ark thingy ever happens, or even anything horrible, you would be glad that you read.

:)

[spock]

sheep....inmates......fook that!
i agree. keeping it on the low is a good idea sometimes.
but why should i comprimise my life for some divvy who cares not how the world works.

i will do it my way....i will make mistakes. i will learn from them.
i will follow no one but me.

lets tear these invisible walls down man....not put more up.
evolve............don't give in.

[tracker]

sheep....inmates......fook that!
i agree. keeping it on the low is a good idea sometimes.
but why should i comprimise my life for some divvy who cares not how the world works.

i will do it my way....i will make mistakes. i will learn from them.
i will follow no one but me.

lets tear these invisible walls down man....not put more up.
evolve............don't give in.

funny as this ( with all respect ) is a typical -------------I HAVE MISSUNDERSTOOD THE MESSAGE HERE ------------ response .

This is not tearing walls down ----its using them -knowing them .
its not putting up walls --------its using them ------and other peoples walls .
its not about giving in ----------its about winning through understanding others .

so many people have totally missread this thread ----as usual !

this thread does state ---------HOW TO -------------USE --------- ( the word is ------------USE ) the prison rules -------------------it doesnt in any place indicate putting up walls --------------or shutting up -------or ---------giving up ------------its about -------------USING ---------USING ------the prison rules ----something that you iether do ---or do not .

:cool:

[spock]

that's what i felt like at the time of reading. :rolleyes:
it sounded like sit down shut up to me.

[tracker]

that's what i felt like at the time of reading. :rolleyes:
it sounded like sit down shut up to me.

At one time in my life -------------------- a long time ago ( millions of years ago ) when ever I used to read something -------------or hear something ---------that offered advice --------------I always took it the wrong way .
( sometimes even today I am still prone to that mistake )

The problem back then -----------------was that I was full of negativity and there fore --------could only see things in a negative light .

it didnt matter what it was , who said it , some how -------------- i always took it wrong .

I used to think similar things to some of those who have replied to my thread here ----and on some others .

I dont sit down and shut up !
In fact ----------- if I see an injustice bestowed upon another ----------I have learned to stand up for them -----------------to be counted , to be unafraid .
I managed to do this by some of the ideas I have offered as advice on other threads -------as well as this one .

If you look -------------and just take the words as they are -------and not as a personal -----------its your fault shut up and sit down -----way -------------then you will see that there are a few ways you can go through life .

1 ) be a sheep and conform ------ allow others to tell you what to do and surrender your mind and heart .

2 ) be slightly aware --but be afraid to stand up now and then -------like the way you saw it -----------shut up and sit down .

3 ) be aware ------------always stand up ---------always go against the grain ----gather attention -------and then wonder why your life is always hard .

4 ) be aware -------------and use the system -----move around more freely --------know when to say something -------when to anylise --------when to stand up -----and move around --- get the your message out with out too much come back.


there are a few other ways --------------yet these are the basic 4 .

Apart from my threads ----------- I never get much resistance from the outside world ---because I know its mentality -----and ------------how to USE IT .

lol ------------ I mean ---------tracker -----------------tells people to sit down and shut up :D ---------------------do I appear the type to shut up ?:D


I may not be good with the written word ----------- But I do know the prison -------------------------- and those in it . ( mostly ) .:)

[armoured_amazon]

Another great thread, Tracker.

[tracker]

Another great thread, Tracker.

I swear your an angel Armoured Amazon .

Always just around the corner in an unexpected place .:p

I know my written word seems harsh -----------as many have seen --------- yet some how there are always those --------------- who seem to see the message I attempt to get out --------rather like your self .

thank you Armoured Amazon ------------good to see you online .:cool:

[armoured_amazon]

I swear your an angel Armoured Amazon .

Always just around the corner in an unexpected place .:p

I know my written word seems harsh -----------as many have seen --------- yet some how there are always those --------------- who seem to see the message I attempt to get out --------rather like your self .

thank you Armoured Amazon ------------good to see you online .:cool:

You too :)

I don't think you come across as harsh. People will turn on each other and sell one another out, given the chance, particularly when they fear. I agree too, that there are those who are aware something is wrong, even what it is, but choose to bow their head and do their time without rocking the boat. Whatever works for them, I suppose, but I do begrudge sticking my neck out for them, lol.

This is how I want to be living:

4 ) be aware -------------and use the system -----move around more freely --------know when to say something -------when to anylise --------when to stand up -----and move around --- get the your message out with out too much come back.

As wise as a serpent and meek as a dove. A chameleon, able to anticipate and act accordingly, while being in an open plan compound instead of high security lol :)

[tracker]

You too :)


As wise as a serpent and meek as a dove. A chameleon, able to anticipate and act accordingly, while being in an open plan compound instead of high security lol :)

WELL DONE Amoured amazon -------you have hit the nail on the head yet again .:cool:

it is --------in a way ----------knowing your captures -----------their cliques / habbits / rules ---------then using them -----------to be ( like they act ) in their faces -----------using their nature ---------right in front of them --------------with out any recognition .

its what the Illuminate do -------and there fore ---------we must act accordingly -----------------:cool:

now you see me







now you dont .:cool:

its not me ---------------------- im not here ---------yet you will feel me ---------you'll know im about -------------but you wont know where .

so to speek .:cool:

[armoured_amazon]

Indeed :D

[spock]

3 ) be aware ------------always stand up ---------always go against the grain ----gather attention -------and then wonder why your life is always hard .


if i was aware then i wouldn't wonder why would I?
i'd know why.:D


i know what you are saying. or trying to say.

sit down and pretend to shut up.....same ting to me.

peace

[spock]

if david icke or alex jones took your advice.....you'd still be asleep. :p
obviously time travel would have to be possible coz it's too late for that.
but you get what i mean.

everyone up!!!
no one hide away. get out and be the truth.
lets kick some ass!....metorphorically speaking of course! :rolleyes:

[armoured_amazon]

if i was aware then i wouldn't wonder why would I?
i'd know why.:D


i know what you are saying. or trying to say.

sit down and pretend to shut up.....same ting to me.

peace

That's not how I interpreted it. :confused:

[tracker]

if i was aware then i wouldn't wonder why would I?
i'd know why.:D


i know what you are saying. or trying to say.

sit down and pretend to shut up.....same ting to me.

peace

erm ----------NO -------------yet again !

its not about sitting down and shutting up ! For crying out loud ----------- I understand that some people are unable to read the 1st few lines of this thread that do state

this thread is not about shutting up -----its about USING the prison to move around more freely .

you see it in the light that this means shut up and sit down and pretend to be --------not in the know -------------as where I have stated in this thread that its about ------------KNOWING -------------when to say something ----and when timing can actually work against you .

rather like -----------meeting a stranger and then just blurting everything you know into their faces -----------which we all know can actually work against you because they will automaticly shun you ----------------or havent you seen the thread about some poor dude who has been trying to tell parents at his childs local school about the dangers of the swine flu vaccines and has been shunned cronicly ?

you still seem to find -------------a negative no matter how I have tried to show you that sometimes ----------------you need to know ------how to time things right . sometimes you need to know -----------------how to deal with others by 1st learning their cliques etc .

if you are unable to grasp this simple premisse ------------then I can only try to imagine how difficult your life is beyond the internet .

its up to you how you wish to take this thread --------quite frankly ----------its not my problem . its YOURS.

quite a few people have seen this thread and do understand ---------- what it is saying .

funny enough -----even you have said -----------"I understand what it is you are trying to say"

well if this is so --------why contradict your self by saying that it seems to be the opossite of what it is that you seem to know what it is im trying to say .

aaaaaaaaaaawwwwwwwww fk this --------------I have no time for this sheeple trivia --------------- this is my last response to you ---------
and then you insinuate that I say that we should hide because you say ----------"come on no more hiding"

what are you on ?

depressants ?


I have covered this typical angle that some people take but seemed to have forgotten to detial it more in ----------"dont get fooled by their philosophy" in this thread .

IE

4 ) Don't be fooled by double think tactics .
This can be seen in the hint number 2 .

what I forgot to say in this rule is a typical no brainer arguements that some sheeple bring up that contradict them selves yet will keep up argueing against you -----despite the fact that half the time they will say that they do see what you mean .


people like









YOU .

[xpleet]

Introspectivity breaks our programming and gives back control.

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=79523

[tracker]

Introspectivity breaks our programming and gives back control.

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=79523

I replied the following to your thread .


this is a very good thread !

it is very true that when we think ------about why we think certain thoughts --------------we can gain tremendouse control over our lives .

this type of tactic also helps us see ---------why others keep doing the same things day in day out --------yearafter year ------decade after decade , we can also see then -----------why it is that some never have control over their own life or destiny .

this is a very good post .


:cool:

[armoured_amazon]

it is very true that when we think ------about why we think certain thoughts --------------we can gain tremendouse control over our lives .

I want a therapist lol. Introspection just keeps me entertained, but I can't see the wood for the trees when it comes to answers. *clicky*

[tracker]

I want a therapist lol. Introspection just keeps me entertained, but I can't see the wood for the trees when it comes to answers. *clicky*

lol ,

yeah ,

Sometimes -----trying to find the answer is hard ------so we then think -----------"why do I ask the question ?"
( double wammy punn )

and then ----"why do I ask" ----------"why do I ask the question ?"

what is the drive to ask ?

what perpose would it serve to find the answer ?

:cool:

[xpleet]

lol ,

yeah ,

Sometimes -----trying to find the answer is hard ------so we then think -----------"why do I ask the question ?"
( double wammy punn )

and then ----"why do I ask" ----------"why do I ask the question ?"

what is the drive to ask ?

what perpose would it serve to find the answer ?
:cool:

-> "I seek the answer so i can advance and move on, on my way." -> "Why would I want to move on?" -> "I want to move on so I can eliminate my suffering and fears and then help others to do so aswell."

[fishonwheels]

Some additional ways to save urself from getting ass raped in prison:

1. Get a car:　ｎｏ　ｎｅｅｄ　ｆｏｒ　ａ　ｆａｎｃｙ　ｏｎｅ。　ｇｅｔｓ　ｕ　ａｒｏｕｎｄ。　ｓｈｏｗｓ 　ｕ　ｈａｖｅ　ｕｒ　ｈａｎｄｓ　ｓｔａｉｎｅｄ　ｗｉｔｈ　Ｉｒａｑｉ　ｂｌｏｏｄ, that ur down with the brotherhood。　ｗｈｅｎｅｖｅｒ　ｕ　ｃａｎ,　ｇｏ　ｏｕｔ　ｃｒｕｉｓｉｎｇ。　ｊｕｓｔ 　ｄｒｉｖｅ。　ａｉｍｌｅｓｓｌｙ。。。。。。ａｒｏｕｎｄ　ｔｏｗｎ。　ｗｈａｔ　ｃａｎ　ｂｅ　ｓｔ ｕｐｉｄｅｒ　ｔｈａｎ　ａ　ｈａｍｓｔｅｒ　ｏｎ　ａ　ｗｈｅｅｌ？ that said, doing so excessively can get u on the radar. in my experience the best car to get is a shitty one with fancy rims, shows ur stupid enough to get into debt for a set of rims.

2. get a job: u may be self-employed, making money and loving what u do. just get a low responsibility part-time job on the side, say, delivering pizza. whatever money u make goes into gas and car repairs (see number one). People regard u as a "boy" and treat u accordingly. it shows ur mindless and can follow orders. (the places i've worked at, if a resume has too many years of self-employment it gets tossed out. people don't hire enterprising, independant folks) and depends on where u are in north america i think most cases u can listen to late night coast to coast while u drive.

3. if u want a pet and ur place allows it, get a dog, not a cat.
dog people are seen as good at giving and receiving orders. a dog also forces u to get out more and meet the neighbors, it makes u look less suspicious. nobody trusts loners.

4. get on facebook and other social networking sites. doesn't matter how deep u go, they're networking tools, not connecting tools. we all gotta attend the rallies and shout the slogans so might as well have a party while ur at it. it gives u the appearance of transparency. what better way to hide something than in plain sight?

5. Get some experience in sales or serving. it's good practice in cultivating a phony personality and in lying, very crucial things in splitting ur mind. u need to be aware of ur own truths while giving off an acceptable front, essentially becoming semi-schizophrenic. practice makes perfect. eventually ur front alter will be so flawless u'll be on auto-pilot going about ur day while focusing on communicating telepathically, if that makes sense.

6. If ur married and need instrospection time, pretend to watch sports or ufc, but actually use the time to meditate, u'll come out refreshed and nobody, including those folks in Geneva, Switzerland watching u thru ur TV's built in camera would know that u were even gone.

7. Get an Ipod, an accessory that helps u instantly blend in with all the ipod zombies around u. shows u to be equally materialistic. load it half full of music and half full of interviews with some of ur favorite speakers eg. Icke etc etc.

8. Get a credit card, but only spend as much as u can pay off every period without incurring interest. they're lending u money and helping u build credit, interest free.

9. become a cop. that's right. u are the law. and u have at ur fingertips all the techniques, equipment and knowledge about surveillance and interrogation, not to mention, a chance to join the Masons. u never know who u might run into. same can be said about the military but depends on what country, i think especially in the US once u join the military ur US government property for life.

10. do drugs. not hard ones. just recreationally, here and there, u know. shows ur anti-establishment, which will help u fit in.

11。　Ｇｏ　ｔｏ　ｓｃｈｏｏｌ，　ｔａｋｅ　ｏｕｔ　ａ　ｌｏｗ　ｉｎｔｅｒｅｓｔ　ｏｒ　ｉｎｔｅｒ ｅｓｔ　ｆｒｅｅ　ｓｔｕｄｅｎｔ　ｌｏａｎ，　ｇｅｔ　ａ　ｄｅｇｒｅｅ　ｉｎ　ｃｈｅｍｉｓｔｒｙ，　 ｔｈａｔ　ｗａｙ　Ｕ　ｈａｖｅ　ｃｒｅｄｅｎｔｉａｌｓ　ＡＮＤ　ｋｎｏｗｌｅｄｇｅ　ａｂｏｕｔ　ｓｔ ｒｅｅｔ　ｄｒｕｇ　ａｎｄ　ｂｏｍｂ　ｍａｋｉｎｇ。　ｍａｋｅ　ｍｏｎｅｙ　ｗｈｉｌｅ　ｕ　ｆｉｇｈ ｔ　ｔｈｅ　ｐｏｗｅｒ。

１２。　Ｗａｔｃｈ　Ｓｈａｗｓｈａｎｋ　Ｒｅｄｅｍｐｔｉｏｎ，　ｉ　ｓｅｅ　ｔｈａｔ　ｍｏｖｉｅ　ａ ｓ　ａ　ｍｅｔａｐｈｏｒ　ｆｏｒ　ｌｉｆｅ。

１３。　ｄｏｎ’ｔ　ｄｒｏｐ　ｔｈｅ　ｓｏａｐ　ｉｎ　ｔｈｅ　ｓｈｏｗｅｒ。

Ｐｌｅａｓｅ，ｔｈｉｓ　ｌｉｓｔ　ｉｓ　ｊｕｓｔ　ａ　ｓｋｅｔｃｈ，　ａｄｄ　ｔｏ　ｉｔ，　ｃｈａｎ ｇｅ　ｉｔ，　ｃｏｍｅ　ｕｐ　ｗｉｔｈ　ｍｏｒｅ　ｗａｙｓ。

[tracker]

Some additional ways to save urself from getting ass raped in prison:

1. Get a car:　ｎｏ　ｎｅｅｄ　ｆｏｒ　ａ　ｆａｎｃｙ　ｏｎｅ。　ｇｅｔｓ　ｕ　ａｒｏｕｎｄ。　ｓｈｏｗｓ 　ｕ　ｈａｖｅ　ｕｒ　ｈａｎｄｓ　ｓｔａｉｎｅｄ　ｗｉｔｈ　Ｉｒａｑｉ　ｂｌｏｏｄ, that ur down with the brotherhood。　ｗｈｅｎｅｖｅｒ　ｕ　ｃａｎ,　ｇｏ　ｏｕｔ　ｃｒｕｉｓｉｎｇ。　ｊｕｓｔ 　ｄｒｉｖｅ。　ａｉｍｌｅｓｓｌｙ。。。。。。ａｒｏｕｎｄ　ｔｏｗｎ。　ｗｈａｔ　ｃａｎ　ｂｅ　ｓｔ ｕｐｉｄｅｒ　ｔｈａｎ　ａ　ｈａｍｓｔｅｒ　ｏｎ　ａ　ｗｈｅｅｌ？ that said, doing so excessively can get u on the radar. in my experience the best car to get is a shitty one with fancy rims, shows ur stupid enough to get into debt for a set of rims.

2. get a job: u may be self-employed, making money and loving what u do. just get a low responsibility part-time job on the side, say, delivering pizza. whatever money u make goes into gas and car repairs (see number one). People regard u as a "boy" and treat u accordingly. it shows ur mindless and can follow orders. (the places i've worked at, if a resume has too many years of self-employment it gets tossed out. people don't hire enterprising, independant folks) and depends on where u are in north america i think most cases u can listen to late night coast to coast while u drive.

3. if u want a pet and ur place allows it, get a dog, not a cat.
dog people are seen as good at giving and receiving orders. a dog also forces u to get out more and meet the neighbors, it makes u look less suspicious. nobody trusts loners.

4. get on facebook and other social networking sites. doesn't matter how deep u go, they're networking tools, not connecting tools. we all gotta attend the rallies and shout the slogans so might as well have a party while ur at it. it gives u the appearance of transparency. what better way to hide something than in plain sight?

5. Get some experience in sales or serving. it's good practice in cultivating a phony personality and in lying, very crucial things in splitting ur mind. u need to be aware of ur own truths while giving off an acceptable front, essentially becoming semi-schizophrenic. practice makes perfect. eventually ur front alter will be so flawless u'll be on auto-pilot going about ur day while focusing on communicating telepathically, if that makes sense.

6. If ur married and need instrospection time, pretend to watch sports or ufc, but actually use the time to meditate, u'll come out refreshed and nobody, including those folks in Geneva, Switzerland watching u thru ur TV's built in camera would know that u were even gone.

7. Get an Ipod, an accessory that helps u instantly blend in with all the ipod zombies around u. shows u to be equally materialistic. load it half full of music and half full of interviews with some of ur favorite speakers eg. Icke etc etc.

8. Get a credit card, but only spend as much as u can pay off every period without incurring interest. they're lending u money and helping u build credit, interest free.

9. become a cop. that's right. u are the law. and u have at ur fingertips all the techniques, equipment and knowledge about surveillance and interrogation, not to mention, a chance to join the Masons. u never know who u might run into. same can be said about the military but depends on what country, i think especially in the US once u join the military ur US government property for life.

10. do drugs. not hard ones. just recreationally, here and there, u know. shows ur anti-establishment, which will help u fit in.

11。　Ｇｏ　ｔｏ　ｓｃｈｏｏｌ，　ｔａｋｅ　ｏｕｔ　ａ　ｌｏｗ　ｉｎｔｅｒｅｓｔ　ｏｒ　ｉｎｔｅｒ ｅｓｔ　ｆｒｅｅ　ｓｔｕｄｅｎｔ　ｌｏａｎ，　ｇｅｔ　ａ　ｄｅｇｒｅｅ　ｉｎ　ｃｈｅｍｉｓｔｒｙ，　 ｔｈａｔ　ｗａｙ　Ｕ　ｈａｖｅ　ｃｒｅｄｅｎｔｉａｌｓ　ＡＮＤ　ｋｎｏｗｌｅｄｇｅ　ａｂｏｕｔ　ｓｔ ｒｅｅｔ　ｄｒｕｇ　ａｎｄ　ｂｏｍｂ　ｍａｋｉｎｇ。　ｍａｋｅ　ｍｏｎｅｙ　ｗｈｉｌｅ　ｕ　ｆｉｇｈ ｔ　ｔｈｅ　ｐｏｗｅｒ。

１２。　Ｗａｔｃｈ　Ｓｈａｗｓｈａｎｋ　Ｒｅｄｅｍｐｔｉｏｎ，　ｉ　ｓｅｅ　ｔｈａｔ　ｍｏｖｉｅ　ａ ｓ　ａ　ｍｅｔａｐｈｏｒ　ｆｏｒ　ｌｉｆｅ。

１３。　ｄｏｎ’ｔ　ｄｒｏｐ　ｔｈｅ　ｓｏａｐ　ｉｎ　ｔｈｅ　ｓｈｏｗｅｒ。

Ｐｌｅａｓｅ，ｔｈｉｓ　ｌｉｓｔ　ｉｓ　ｊｕｓｔ　ａ　ｓｋｅｔｃｈ，　ａｄｄ　ｔｏ　ｉｔ，　ｃｈａｎ ｇｅ　ｉｔ，　ｃｏｍｅ　ｕｐ　ｗｉｔｈ　ｍｏｒｅ　ｗａｙｓ。


seeeeeeeeee folks , some people understannd that to "Move around more freely in a prison" one must understand the inmates , the rules of the prison , and not be afraid of just how cunning and strong they can be when they apply some know how .


unlike what some one has said on this thread , ------------------ knowing you can either do things easy ---------or do it the hard way -----------isnt just a saying ---------its a fact of life .


this post I have quoted -------------ROCKS !
WELL DONE FISHONWHEELS .


great contribution .
:cool:

[grachtengordel]

1. Get a car:　ｎｏ　ｎｅｅｄ　ｆｏｒ　ａ　ｆａｎｃｙ　ｏｎｅ。　ｇｅｔｓ　ｕ　ａｒｏｕｎｄ。　ｓｈｏｗｓ 　ｕ　ｈａｖｅ　ｕｒ　ｈａｎｄｓ　ｓｔａｉｎｅｄ　ｗｉｔｈ　Ｉｒａｑｉ　ｂｌｏｏｄ, that ur down with the brotherhood。　ｗｈｅｎｅｖｅｒ　ｕ　ｃａｎ,　ｇｏ　ｏｕｔ　ｃｒｕｉｓｉｎｇ。　ｊｕｓｔ 　ｄｒｉｖｅ。　ａｉｍｌｅｓｓｌｙ。。。。。。ａｒｏｕｎｄ　ｔｏｗｎ。　ｗｈａｔ　ｃａｎ　ｂｅ　ｓｔ ｕｐｉｄｅｒ　ｔｈａｎ　ａ　ｈａｍｓｔｅｒ　ｏｎ　ａ　ｗｈｅｅｌ？ that said, doing so excessively can get u on the radar. in my experience the best car to get is a shitty one with fancy rims, shows ur stupid enough to get into debt for a set of rims.

brilliant. fucking hilarious, first proper laugh i had in weeks. keep it up sir

3. if u want a pet and ur place allows it, get a dog, not a cat.
dog people are seen as good at giving and receiving orders

thats the truth.

dogs crave an authority figure to tell them what to do.

dog owners are the same

[tracker]

brilliant. fucking hilarious, first proper laugh i had in weeks. keep it up sir



thats the truth.

dogs crave an authority figure to tell them what to do.

dog owners are the same


erm ?

:confused:

[spock]

erm ----------NO -------------yet again !

its not about sitting down and shutting up ! For crying out loud ----------- I understand that some people are unable to read the 1st few lines of this thread that do state

this thread is not about shutting up -----its about USING the prison to move around more freely .

you see it in the light that this means shut up and sit down and pretend to be --------not in the know -------------as where I have stated in this thread that its about ------------KNOWING -------------when to say something ----and when timing can actually work against you .

rather like -----------meeting a stranger and then just blurting everything you know into their faces -----------which we all know can actually work against you because they will automaticly shun you ----------------or havent you seen the thread about some poor dude who has been trying to tell parents at his childs local school about the dangers of the swine flu vaccines and has been shunned cronicly ?

you still seem to find -------------a negative no matter how I have tried to show you that sometimes ----------------you need to know ------how to time things right . sometimes you need to know -----------------how to deal with others by 1st learning their cliques etc .

if you are unable to grasp this simple premisse ------------then I can only try to imagine how difficult your life is beyond the internet .

its up to you how you wish to take this thread --------quite frankly ----------its not my problem . its YOURS.

quite a few people have seen this thread and do understand ---------- what it is saying .

funny enough -----even you have said -----------"I understand what it is you are trying to say"

well if this is so --------why contradict your self by saying that it seems to be the opossite of what it is that you seem to know what it is im trying to say .

aaaaaaaaaaawwwwwwwww fk this --------------I have no time for this sheeple trivia --------------- this is my last response to you ---------
and then you insinuate that I say that we should hide because you say ----------"come on no more hiding"

what are you on ?

depressants ?


I have covered this typical angle that some people take but seemed to have forgotten to detial it more in ----------"dont get fooled by their philosophy" in this thread .

IE

4 ) Don't be fooled by double think tactics .
This can be seen in the hint number 2 .

what I forgot to say in this rule is a typical no brainer arguements that some sheeple bring up that contradict them selves yet will keep up argueing against you -----despite the fact that half the time they will say that they do see what you mean .


people like









YOU .

people like i used to be.

i do get you know.
i have been thinking this over for the last few days. so don't think i'm just attacking your work and pissing off.
or seemingly objecting to it just for the sake of being a dick.

i am still coming to terms with a lot of this stuff. so i do go baaaa!! now and then.
you can be quite sharp with people :D



btw .....thank you.

[tracker]

people like i used to be.

i do get you know.
i have been thinking this over for the last few days. so don't think i'm just attacking your work and pissing off.
or seemingly objecting to it just for the sake of being a dick.

i am still coming to terms with a lot of this stuff. so i do go baaaa!! now and then.
you can be quite sharp with people :D



btw .....thank you.

yeah I do seem sharp on pc / net -----------yet ---------meet me in real life and Im sure -----you would soon see --------------I am sure -- straight to the point -------------but I usually have a good nature of body language and tone that cannot be expressed on a pc .

It can seem hard sometimes facing some of these facts .

I once used to walk around in scruffs ----wondering why people never took me for who I were ---------but then ----------half the time I was protesting against humanity -----for which --------a protest --------in any case ----------is not natural ----------we do not live protesting -------but sometimes we do protest -----thus ------a protest --------is not part of mormality of the individual .
My natural state would have had me walking around in say --------levis / 501s or something ----------so my fight to protest ------------once cut off my nose to spite my face .

I am still very much intent on allowing those around me in real life know the core ----but I tend to "pick " my moments carefully .
I weighup those around me 1st

yet

If I ever see a human go through an injustice ---------------I am always the 1st to move at their defence .
I have only lost 2 jobs for doing so too .:D

yet I would do it again and again .

My attempt at this thread was a 1st time , and do seem to find it hard to express in writing --a liberal way to get these types of threads across .

I may seem the quiet type at times in real life -------------but then if I do --------its because those around me have got me wrong -----------and sometimes -----------------thats just the way I like it .
like a sniper ------taking off pop shots at the high ranks from a distance -------- :cool:

[spock]

only with a metorphorical 50 cal? :D

but i will still question everything. even you.:p
although i know where your coming from more now.in fact i'd even say i like the stuff you put on here.
sometimes the sheeple thing comes across as talking down/ being seperate.
i'm here to learn stuff. so i will question. even if i agree, i may not say incase i influence your reply.
i can risk looking like a prize pratt.....because i am just words on a screen on a distant PC

it's been a good thread in the end this. i'm glad you did it.

[tracker]

only with a metorphorical 50 cal? :D

but i will still question everything. even you.:p
although i know where your coming from more now.in fact i'd even say i like the stuff you put on here.
sometimes the sheeple thing comes across as talking down/ being seperate.
i'm here to learn stuff. so i will question. even if i agree, i may not say incase i influence your reply.
i can risk looking like a prize pratt.....because i am just words on a screen on a distant PC

it's been a good thread in the end this. i'm glad you did it.

THANKS FOR THAT REPPLY SPOK .:)

Most of this actually does come from personal experience .

I have had the "1st --- 28" years of my life on the other end ya know .

always blurting everything out
wrong timing
people taking the mick
even being abused from large groups and taken the piss out of from my own family

so I defo know what its like not to atleast use ---------------the prison rules -------or should I say more precisely ----------peoples mentality -------to use it for my own advantage .
In my early 20s it was that bad I nearly killed my self big time , which is why I learned to become a creature of stealth .

Its not quite like living in fear and shutting up ----------like I said I always stand up against an injustice and always will -------its just that Ive noticed that people take you more seriousely if you pick the right time ----------and INDUCE things rather than just roll off a whole essay of ------The Illuminate .

quite often after a few hints and correct timing -----------they often ask -----how do you know this ?
then I spring the whole

READING -----research -----------experience thing on them .

Im not so stealthy on forum -------------as I know thatmany people out there are living realities like hell ---rather much like the one I lived in and need some comfort which is why I do things like this thread .
sometimes I give away parts of my own private life .

the net doesnt really worry me because letsface it ------------------only saying -------------------how do you know ------or for anyone else for the matter ------------know --------------if Im telling the truth about parts of my past ?

they dont , and the written word isnt layed down around the life and times of tracker --------------pmsl :D

so thats why it doesnt worry me but especially more so ---is that my life was used against me as a kid ---------so the man as you can imagine ----------sees no threat from someone knowing a bit of my past lol.

there are some other threads I made --------------------- I would especially like your input on these threads ------------- in some way -----------you do come across as a bit of a "spok" and I find this helpfull .

:cool:

[spock]

i have had this with my family and friends etc.......so i know it too.
my best mate doesn't speak to me anymore because of my "perspective". :o
but we can help each other gain insight and deal with everyday life.
aswell as talk about stuff the average person would concider lunacy.
regaining our sense of humour and faith in ourselves is vital. ( i hope you see my humour for what it is)

i have a few relatives who are headmasters etc
they just dissmiss any "alternative" views and try to stamp them out.
even when i offer a side of a story they may never of heard of.
i'm not the type to take shit off anyone and give as good as i get.
this.....makes me look like the nutter.
arguing with buisness men about the economy? mad man :mad:
Rothschilds this, rockefella's that, george bush did this, tony blair did that.....satan....the sun....david icke!

so i had already adopted an approach similar to your original post. maybe not as thorough.
so i try not to argue.....that is very hard for me :D
i try to enjoy the time i have with people. but biting my tongue or choosing what i say is frustrating.
and stinks of mind control.
but some people aren't ready or want to be told stuff.
so the stealthy approach it is. :cool:




if thought creates reality and we think we are in a prison then we will be.
(where i was trying to come from in my origonal reply)

[holylucifer]

I just don't bother.

If they are partially interested i would say a few things.

[tracker]

if thought creates reality and we think we are in a prison then we will be.
(where i was trying to come from in my origonal reply)

Thats also why I made a thread called
"The lies enlightened people believe and then tell us"

because they say "reality is an Illusion"and to me thats bullshine !

reality is not an Illusion -----it is an interactive program .
The program is real ----------because einstien proved it .
Time ----------he said ------------is relative to the observer

and since time is motion of the program , and motion through space gives us reality --------reality is also there for relative to the observer ----------as David Icke said "what we believe ---------------- is real" ----------------

hence why some people live life surrounded by reptilians
some by the thought police
some by big brother
some by nothing at all .

relativity .

the idea of reality being an Illusion comes from those who are also the ones that then contradict them self by
eating
drinking

to stay alive -----yet life is an Illusion ( apparently ) in yet the Illusion of reality .

one has to pick and choose what to adopt as truth ,

I my self pick and choose to suit my survival and make it easier and will change my beliefs etc to suit the relative time inwhich i need it -------we all do .

:cool:

[rishan]

hi Tracker. respect your post and appreciate how the thread is trying to help people in their daily lives.

however, i have tried to live in the system, tried doing what everyone else does, but it made me severely depressed and put me in a psychiatric unit. i believe this is why all mental illnesses exist, because of lack of freedom and anger about the situation. we all know it could be sooooo much better.

so i have a big problem with accepting that we have to live by their rules without any choice. i'm sure there are others who feel the same as me, and we should be trying to figure out other ways to live, and letting more and more people see alternatives. then we might break free and knock down the prison. ultimately we all just want to do what we want, when we want.

peace

[tracker]

hi Tracker. respect your post and appreciate how the thread is trying to help people in their daily lives.

however, i have tried to live in the system, tried doing what everyone else does, but it made me severely depressed and put me in a psychiatric unit.

yep that nearly happened to me years ago --i was only inches away from it I suppose .
The idea is this .

Do what you want to do ---------------dont do what every one else wants you to do .
the rest -------------is just a show .
you dont have to believe what they believe ,( you could humour them ) you dont have to accept their ways ------------all that I say is that it is "wise" to act like romans when in rome -----------but that doesnt mean they have got you -------or that --------you are the same as them .----------------its just for show .:cool:

i believe this is why all mental illnesses exist, because of lack of freedom and anger about the situation. we all know it could be sooooo much better.


yepand I have always believed my self that depressed folks know the truth . --------------------------- and I fully agree with you here on this one ---I found this one out when it was nearly too late ------------------but I did learn .

freedom of expression does not mean however that others have to accept your ideas or your expressions , although I will admit that doesnt mean others have the right to ridicule others for expressing them self freely .

again

one must know and understand the mind sets of others around them before just acting out or speeking at times , unfortunately this is the truth .

fkem ! one doesnt have to express one self infront of others -----------------I suppose it depends on what the situation is or where --------------Like I said -----------you can tell truth , you can express , you have to time it right ----or atleast -----give a little -----let them ask for more ---------they usually do ------after a while .:rolleyes:



so i have a big problem with accepting that we have to live by their rules without any choice.

Me too !
but that also doesnt mean we should fight them at any given moment . sometimes --------------it is best to sit back --------look ----listen --------and just let the numpties get on with it .:rolleyes:

i'm sure there are others who feel the same as me, and we should be trying to figure out other ways to live, and letting more and more people see alternatives. then we might break free and knock down the prison. ultimately we all just want to do what we want, when we want.

TRUE !
I used to feel similar to your self on why people dont accept parts of me etc ------now I dont truly give a damn .
why should I ?
it waists my brain space / time / energy -------and ya never get it back -----------so ------------what others think of me -------means nothing ------and since I have learned to drop ------thinking about me ------the way they used too -----------it doesnt affect me any more .
holding your self in a prison of what others think of you ----------rather than what you know you are ------can put you in a funny farm for a while ------------it is inevitable !

fkem !;)


peace

Much respected back to you for that comment .

BUT

how can you give me peace ?
you dont seem to have any of your own .:(

until you do ---------------- I am unable to get any from you , however the juesture is accepted with respect -----------because I truly hope you find peace and love ------always .:)


try looking in the mirror !
the stranger in the mirror is only there ------because you keep them there --------until you learn how to treat them with respect and friendship and love ----------------------- you will always be your own gate keeper .


let them out !
be their friend !
be there for them !

fk every one else .

the person in the mirror needs you more than they do .

no offence -----its just true for all of us .