View Full Version : Has David Icke changed since 'Infinite Love'?
teslafire
12-02-2007, 07:28 AM
Once he made the declaration that "Infinite Love is the only truth and everything else is Illusion" did he fundamentally change his message, or has this been part of his cause since he started?
societyisthematrix
12-02-2007, 07:42 AM
This thread would be a prime candidate for the "dark side of the moon" forum. We need it badly! ;)
oneofmany
12-02-2007, 07:50 AM
How would any of us know if David has changed or not unless we knew him personally before he had his life changing experiences. My guess is that he has
john white
12-02-2007, 07:51 AM
Once he made the declaration that "Infinite Love is the only truth and everything else is Illusion" did he fundamentally change his message, or has this been part of his cause since he started?
Its absolutely catagorically been part of Ickes "message" all along that Love is the force that holds creation together, the highest energy we can be atuned to from which all other vibrations are derived. I suppose an argument could be made that the "everything else is Illusion" aspect is something that, whilst again always there, has become succesively more developed as Ickes journey has progressed
teslafire
12-02-2007, 07:53 AM
@SITM
I don't see that, this is perfectly acceptable by all standards and intents laid out by forum code. Its a basic question of if his message has changed or if he has merely emphasized it recently because of the benefit of new scientific research and spiritual insight corroborating the seemingly romantic claim.
Whaddya think SITM?
lappitypup
12-02-2007, 08:08 AM
I think the love thing caught on big with the spiritual crowd, I think the conspiracy thing caught on with the conspiracy crowd - the synthesis being conspiracy spiritualists?
It's a tough field to hoe, but his dance with drugs was worrying because that's really just such a distraction, but portends some hidden truth to 'spiritual' people. The get your gas mask and MRE's crowd are just ready to fight the 'bad' ones - and they direct that wherever it gets pointed to.
There is a terrible seeking of a 'solution', almost as if it will just be one group of politicians, or a special ritual with a crystal or some sweeping new consensus. Both of which just seem so silly. But many of a patriots are partial to a bit of apocalyptic Jesus, and they could accept that being an energy vortex from the 5th dimension too.
There is an agenda to what has happened and is happening, and the fingerprints are everywhere. It's sad that a simple polemic argument comes in of essentially good and bad. Mind you, that's worked fairly well for many thousands of years.
societyisthematrix
12-02-2007, 08:09 AM
@SITM
I don't see that, this is perfectly acceptable by all standards and intents laid out by forum code. Its a basic question of if his message has changed or if he has merely emphasized it recently because of the benefit of new scientific research and spiritual insight corroborating the seemingly romantic claim.
Whaddya think SITM?
That's perfectly reasonable to me. :cool:
teslafire
12-02-2007, 08:13 AM
Its absolutely catagorically been part of Ickes "message" all along that Love is the force that holds creation together, the highest energy we can be atuned to from which all other vibrations are derived. I suppose an argument could be made that the "everything else is Illusion" aspect is something that, whilst again always there, has become succesively more developed as Ickes journey has progressed
"Everything else is an Illusion" is the part that seems to have been modified from his earlier theses.
Correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't everything once Love to varying expressions, in the older philosophy?
How would any of us know if David has changed or not unless we knew him personally before he had his life changing experiences. My guess is that he has
Having heard the man speak on two occasions, several years apart, all that I can say is that, like all of us, he is evolving.
On the first occasion he spent, what I considered, a very short time, at the conclusion, on the spritual aspect. At the last one he gave at Brixton Academy May 2006, he spent the last session (about two hours) on the spiritual and pulling it all together.
jimijams
12-02-2007, 11:14 AM
Having heard the man speak on two occasions, several years apart, all that I can say is that, like all of us, he is evolving.
On the first occasion he spent, what I considered, a very short time, at the conclusion, on the spritual aspect. At the last one he gave at Brixton Academy May 2006, he spent the last session (about two hours) on the spiritual and pulling it all together.
Ultimately this is a spiritual journey, the more that you research the conspiracy the more you realize that the grand conspiracy is the war on the soul.
The establishments greatest enemy is the fully realised you. To this day one of Davids greatest talks IMO was the robots rebellion back in '94, that talk had a huge impact on me, this is when I first came to the realization that most of us are merely robots following a program.
This is the motivation behind the agenda to have us microchipped, without inner guidance and total disconnection from the source we become the perfect slave race, this has been their goal for a millenia.
David Icke - The Robots Rebellion
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-758681198696417932&q=icke+robots+rebellion
john white
12-02-2007, 11:22 AM
"Everything else is an Illusion" is the part that seems to have been modified from his earlier theses.
Correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't everything once Love to varying expressions, in the older philosophy?
Not for me to "correct" anything but that sounds about right to me
jimijams
12-02-2007, 11:44 AM
Not for me to "correct" anything but that sounds about right to me
Me too.
light worker
12-02-2007, 01:09 PM
Language is often the limiting factor with this subject. What Icke has known to be the case intuitively has never changed. Icke has applied words to describe what he has come to know through his research with as much thought as I'm sure is possible. He has on numerous occasions stated, "infinite consciousness is the only truth; everything else is illusion."
This is as true as to state Infinite love is the only truth. One could go as far as to proclaim God is the only truth; everything else is illusion - God in this quote meaning infinite consciousness. Clearly for Icke to have worded it in this way would simply have added confusion. The words he used came to him and do the job. Personally I do prefer to speak of infinite consciousness.
thirdwave
12-02-2007, 01:10 PM
Once he made the declaration that "Infinite Love is the only truth and everything else is Illusion" did he fundamentally change his message, or has this been part of his cause since he started?
For me personally his message has been steadfast from day one and has been the same ever since..... "Infinite love ..." was just another expression of his work....
this why im so happy to see him creep back in the mainstream, it goes to show you don't always have to sell out which is very cool.