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[sweet cheeks]

What's the difference between "reptilians" and "demons"??

Are there any? Do they exist? Have you ever had a paranormal experience?

I know a lady that said she seen a demon that looked like a big lizard!

And if these reptilians be demons, then does that validate the "church" or the "bible"??

We know that most alternative researchers say that the bible is there to enslave the mind of it's followers.

Now, who can sort it all out??

I would love for any of the researchers to tackle this particular subject!

Icke, Tsarion, Watt, Rense, Jones, whoever! ;)

Anyway there seems to be some double play, as well as some double speak going around the conspiracy community.....

[light worker]

I can't answer all the questions you pose here, and some are very deep, but will have a crack at the distinction between demon and reptile.

Firstly many myths that the masses are conditioned into thinking are just old superstitions contain an element of truth to them that is as relevant today as it was in 1032. The key is understanding terminology. A demon is regarded as meaning a malevolent spirit. So in a sense a reptile could be as much a demon as a cat, or a dolphin - it is the malevolence of that spirit which is the demonic factor.

Reptilians are demonic in the sense they are malevolent. Now this word is widely regarded as implying an "ill will":

1. wishing evil or harm to another or others; showing ill will; ill-disposed; malicious

The reptilian agenda is one of control and suppression. That is clearly malicious. The reptilians are therefore literally demons.

Now in terms of what this implies for religion I would like to remind everyone that religion as we know it is only the latest version of Sumerian accounts. Sure the Bible mentions Demons but so does The Lord Of The Rings. The point I am making is just because the Bible talks of things that are real doesn't mean it is a canon of fact of reality. It is just a belief that the masses are conditioned to believe.

To answer your final question, do reptilians even exist, I will be blunt. Yes. There was once a forum I had access to which is now hidden away and cannot be accessed where they even openly talked about shapeshifting. Sounds rather unlikely I know but I am confident the posters were genuine. They used a very archaic English. My brother befriended a Baron in England who regularly posted there. It gets deeper though as they wouldn't call themselves reptiles. They are draco, the dragon blood. But this is moving away from the topic.

I myself have had many paranormal experiences. They come at strange times and are never predicable. However they tend to attract to those that believe in them and have an open mind. I believe there are also other factors too, such as blood and DNA. To make it clear though I have not seen a reptile although have met the Baron I spoke of above and am certain he is not human.

Regards, LW.

[sweet cheeks]

To answer your final question, do reptilians even exist, I will be blunt. Yes. There was once a forum I had access to which is now hidden away and cannot be accessed where they even openly talked about shapeshifting. Sounds rather unlikely I know but I am confident the posters were genuine. They used a very archaic English. My brother befriended a Baron in England who regularly posted there. It gets deeper though as they wouldn't call themselves reptiles. They are draco, the dragon blood. But this is moving away from the topic.


Please, can you give the address, or maybe google cache of the forum??

I would love to read it, it seems so fascinating! :D

[manuele]

About 30 year ago, during a journey in India I find a English translation, of a old book (somebody say that the original text is of 5.000 year old), and I bring it with me in Italy. This book is very long about 10.000 pages on 12 volumes. The title is “The Mahabharata”. Someone had read it? Its ha epic story.

There, on the first book, is possible to read the story of origin of NAGA (snakes). Peoples half snake and half human (or with characteristic of to assume a human form).
I think that have some relation between NAGA and RETTILIANI.

In the MAHABHARATA, is possible to read the story of the young UTANKA… he have a meeting with one of this NAGA or REPTILIAN.
On the story UTANKA, stopped for take shower in the water of a river, and let his clothes and some “hear ring” on the shore, when him looking something on the road:

The Mahabharata (book 1)
"On the road Utanka perceived coming towards him a naked idle beggar sometimes coming in view and sometimes disappearing. And Utanka put the ear-rings on the ground and went for water. In the meantime the beggar came quickly to the spot and taking up the ear-rings ran away.

UTANKA, try to follow him… But when he seized that man, he assuming his real form, he was a snake (perhaps a RETTILIAN).

The Mahabharata (book 1)
And having with great difficulty overtaken him, he seized him by force. But at that instant the person seized, quitting the form of a beggar and assuming his real form, viz., that of Takshaka, speedily entered a large hole open in the ground. And having got in, Takshaka proceeded to his own abode, the region of the serpents.

UTANKA try to follow the snake on the hole (underground). And after it he was very surprise of see the region of snakes.

The Mahabharata (book 1)
And having entered it, he beheld the region of the serpents infinite in extent, filled with hundreds of palaces and elegant mansions with turrets and domes and gate-ways, abounding with wonderful places for various games and entertainments.

On some part of the Mahabharata, was described also the origin of this NAGA or REPTILIANI. But is a very long story and with my poor English is very difficult to explain it. On the book we can read that NAGA/REPTILIANI, was many millions. The narrator, will mention also some name of the most important NAGA/REPTILIANI.

The Mahabharata (book 1)
"Sauti said, I shall not mention the names of all the snakes. But I will recite the names of the chief ones. Listen to me!
"Sesha was born first, and then Vasuki. (Then were born) Airavata, Takshaka, Karkotaka, Dhananjaya, Kalakeya, the serpent Mani, Purana, Pinjaraka, and Elapatra, Vamana, Nila, Anila, Kalmasha, Savala, Aryaka, Ugra, Kalasapotaka, Suramukha, Dadhimukha, Vimalapindaka, Apta, Karotaka, Samkha, Valisikha, Nisthanaka, Hemaguha, Nahusha, Pingala, Vahyakarna, Hastipada, Mudgarapindaka, Kamvala Aswatara, Kaliyaka, Vritta, Samvartaka, Padma, Mahapadma, Sankhamukha, Kushmandaka, Kshemaka, Pindaraka, Karavira, Pushpadanshtraka, Vilwaka, Vilwapandara, Mushikada, Sankhasiras, Purnabhadra, Haridraka, Aparajita, Jyotika, Srivaha, Kauravya, Dhritarashtra, Sankhapinda, Virajas, Suvahu, Salipinda, Prabhakara, Hastipinda, Pitharaka, Sumuksha, Kaunapashana, Kuthara, Kunjara, Kumuda, Kumudaksha, Tittri, Halika, Kardama, Vahumulaka, Karkara, Akarkara, Kundodara, and Mahodara.
"Thus, have I said the names of the principal serpents.

Perhaps have some connection from NAGA and RETTILIANI. Or from NAGA and demons. The Mahbharata, say that this NAGA/RETTILIANI, was malicious, cruel, brutal, pitiless, and that sometime like to eat human meat. Also say that sometime, this NAGA/REPTILLIANI (male NAGA/REPTILIANI) will sleep with a human female, fore make she pregnant and generate some children. The narrator of the Mahabharata, speak also of one case, when a human male, have a sexual meeting with a female NAGA/REPTILIANI.

[light worker]

Please, can you give the address, or maybe google cache of the forum??

I would love to read it, it seems so fascinating! :D

Interestingly after posting my message yesterday I decided to check that forum's old domain name to see if there had been any changes - for the past year or so it has been locked to anyone who isn't an invited member and does not show up on google cache's or even Internet Archive.

To my surprise the forum is accessible again and you don't even need to register. However this seems due to the fact the Dragon Line that set the page up have abandoned the domain - it is now for sale. I want to make it clear here that the posters on this forum may not be the "bad guy" reptilians. However be clear they have a very sophisticated ability to make everything they do sound justified and pure. Many of the posters are likely underlyings in terms of any hierachy. They seem to sell themselves as essentially reptilians with good intentions for mankind but many of the posts I have read (and the archive goes back to the late 90s) contain references to blood rituals etc, so it is difficult at times to see their point. Anyway make what you will of it. It is very interesting to see.

The homepage openly states: "Throughout history the Dragon Kings and their descendants have shaped and influenced the course of human events. Are they reptilian masters or enlightened benefactors? Do they seek to dominate or to guide and protect? Explore the Dragon legacy and the Truth behind the legends."

Here is a little history about the page which should be noted (from the about us section):

Dragoncourt.org was originally founded to present the writings of Nicholas De Vere and the branch of the Dragon family of which he is nominally the head. Later we broadened our scope to present a view of the entire Dragon tradition, to allow for open discussion of Grail and Dragon history, philosophy and tradition from many perspectives

Initially the site was essentially a debating chamber for the dragon blood but as the description suggests it is now more open with no direct affiliation. It therefore seems likely to me the stuff I was seeing being posted about 5/6 years ago will be the kind of thing going on in some other, locked, forum. However if you explore the archive of the forum back to the early days then you will be quite amazed how open they once were. The more recent posts seem more like the the typical sort of thing you see in any forum. So do check the early posts.

http://www.dragoncourt.org/

[light worker]

I found this rather interesting 2002 post from the archive. It is from a poster called Janelle who said this of religion:

"Only a world where consciousness is for the most part dimly present - a shadow of the complete shining consciousness of the integrated higher being - will religion prevail. Religion would have no place on a world populated with beings possessing full consciousness. Pity that this planet has so few with full consciousness."

Seems the reptilians understand the need to use religion to bind - suppress full consciousness. It is pure speculation on my part that this poster was even a reptilian of course, but with all things reptilian related one ofter must take that leap of faith regarding what they feel intutively.

[exmicrochipmafia]

Personally, I believe they're one in the same. My reason for this belief is based on the dimensional/planar existence of them. The other 'planes' of existence as they've been referred to could just be a different way of speaking of dimensions. The reptiles reside primarily on the 4th dimension and demons are said to come from a lower plane of existence; lower being the premise of the lower vibrational patterns they emit. Lower vibration of the 4th/lower plane... I believe it to be the same.
Psychics who 'cleanse' houses will state that when a demon is around/present, they seek to dominate from fear and quite often the psychic will get the impression of a bad 'taste' in the back of their throat, often like bile of blood. Just think of people you may watch on the news or even see on the street and remember those who you 'leave a bad taste in the back of your mouth' over.

[bigus_dickus]

What's the difference between "reptilians" and "demons"??

reptilians are creatures of the reptilian genome and demons are human ideas and concepts about entities alien to them

Are there any? Do they exist? Have you ever had a paranormal experience?

whatever a human believes as truth, it exists. but only as a distortion of truth, since truth is something you know by feeling and not something you believe by thoughts.

I know a lady that said she seen a demon that looked like a big lizard!

demons can look like beautiful angels too. it depends on the human mind how they will appear to them, because that's where they live.

And if these reptilians be demons, then does that validate the "church" or the "bible"??

they were efficient antidotes to the human drama and ignorance, until the control freaks made many of them their assets. that is because that the church is supposed to be the church of christ, but they managed to make an image out of christ, an idol and make everyone worship that idol.

actually what has happened, was all it could possibly happen to get us to the present situation.

We know that most alternative researchers say that the bible is there to enslave the mind of it's followers.

the bible was deliberately constructed this way, to confuse the people who have not studied a lot. so the most important knowledge in it, is "hidden" and it can only be deciphered with additional knowledge i suppose. you can't base your whole religion in only a book. there was an great literature about this theology before the bible was made that most of it got destroyed, some got preserved and is now hidden and will be revealed in due time and most people were left with this riddle that makes things more complicated than they are.

Now, who can sort it all out??

I would love for any of the researchers to tackle this particular subject!

Icke, Tsarion, Watt, Rense, Jones, whoever! ;)

eh... many times these guys are misinformed and draw wrong conclusions. but the conclusions are all yours :cool:

[21_12_2012]

Initially the site was essentially a debating chamber for the dragon blood but as the description suggests it is now more open with no direct affiliation. It therefore seems likely to me the stuff I was seeing being posted about 5/6 years ago will be the kind of thing going on in some other, locked, forum. However if you explore the archive of the forum back to the early days then you will be quite amazed how open they once were. The more recent posts seem more like the the typical sort of thing you see in any forum. So do check the early posts.

http://www.dragoncourt.org/

Interesting stuff...I went to the site for a few minutes just now...who are these people? What's it all about?! I will have to spend some time there to find out just how their minds work and what exactly they're trying to achieve (if anything!)

[shenoma]

The craziest thing I have ever heard of is chinese ninjas half-breeds.

[shenoma]

Personally, I believe they're one in the same. My reason for this belief is based on the dimensional/planar existence of them. The other 'planes' of existence as they've been referred to could just be a different way of speaking of dimensions. The reptiles reside primarily on the 4th dimension and demons are said to come from a lower plane of existence; lower being the premise of the lower vibrational patterns they emit. Lower vibration of the 4th/lower plane... I believe it to be the same.
Psychics who 'cleanse' houses will state that when a demon is around/present, they seek to dominate from fear and quite often the psychic will get the impression of a bad 'taste' in the back of their throat, often like bile of blood. Just think of people you may watch on the news or even see on the street and remember those who you 'leave a bad taste in the back of your mouth' over.

Not all reppies are bad and evil, most aren't and the ones seeking to control this planet should be pity and sent masses waves of love to heal themselves with. They are scaried of that more then anything else, the only way to free this planet once and for all is through true blue love.:rolleyes: