The Moon...

[mr_moon]

Now then. Is it just me or does something inside me, since becoming more and more aware about my Consciousness and Intuition, resonate the same with you as it does with me:

"The Light from the Moon is NOT a reflection of the Suns rays"

If this is the case, then what is the Moon exactly? My Intuition keeps telling me that it is actually emitting this light, consequently making it a possible inhabited planet that is observing our Earth.

There are Beings on the planet Moon.

[kblood]

Now then. Is it just me or does something inside me, since becoming more and more aware about my Consciousness and Intuition, resonate the same with you as it does with me:

"The Light from the Moon is NOT a reflection of the Suns rays"

If this is the case, then what is the Moon exactly? My Intuition keeps telling me that it is actually emitting this light, consequently making it a possible inhabited planet that is observing our Earth.

There are Beings on the planet Moon.

I do believe at least most the light we see from the moon is comming from the sun. The world is quite strange though, so who knows? :)

Every ball of whatever in the universe probably have a core of some kind. Unless "aliens" or something decided to hide there at some point. Spacetravellers should be able to timetravel, since that is the only way to truly traverse our galaxy and so on. Therefore the beings there is probably ancient beings that are highly evolved...

Im guessing the "greys" are the ones hiding in/on the moon, since it seems a suitable place for them.

[freedomnonfighter]

I stare at the moon every chance I get.

I dunno what it is. I still believe it was intelligently placed there, and is hollow... as I've seen no other credible explanation for it. I don't claim to know much about astronomy, but the fact that we only see one side of it at all times really makes me curious.

I have actually thought about what you're asking now, too. I certainly think most of the light we get from the moon is reflected... but the more I look at it, and the longer, I get the feeling and impression it's self-illuminated.

I have no doubt there are and have bases on the moon. I have no doubt there are and have been underground bases on the moon. I have no doubt the most extraordinary things go on inside, or atleast on the surface, of the moon. Is it the real HQ of what's called the Star Wars program, or Project/Op Blue Beam? I believe so.

I was having a psychedelic experience on the beach one morning. The sun had just risen not half an hour prior to my arrival... as soon as I finally get on the beach, I plop down on the sand to lie down... and I find myself staring directly at the moon, directly above me. In that instant I was shot out of my body, and was viewing the earth from what I believed to be the moon. Not even over a minute later, I was shot right back into my body. It felt like the entire crust of our planet had been shocked and rocked, but apparently it must have just been me.

The moon is quite fascinating, quite an enigma...

-Remember in the Truman Show, how the entire show is run from what appears to be the moon? I've always entertained that idea... that one of the primary forces running our planet are based in/on the moon. It's the perfect control office... just like in the movie, which is already quite a metaphoric and symbolic movie as it is.

[mr_moon]

Haha! It would explain how recent powerful weather changes could be a result of an operation from the moon...

It's funny but the Moon has only popped into my consciousness over the last couple of years and made me start thinking that when it is HUGE and LOW in the sky- it actually is closer and NOT a 'trick of the Light' as a lot of people say.

Have you ever experienced that? The moon so big it looks merely a few miles away?

It's weird... its going to reveal itself soon as something FAR from what we have been told and led to believe.

[kblood]

Haha! It would explain how recent powerful weather changes could be a result of an operation from the moon...

It's funny but the Moon has only popped into my consciousness over the last couple of years and made me start thinking that when it is HUGE and LOW in the sky- it actually is closer and NOT a 'trick of the Light' as a lot of people say.

Have you ever experienced that? The moon so big it looks merely a few miles away?

It's weird... its going to reveal itself soon as something FAR from what we have been told and led to believe.

If even the moon is "alive" then I think it quite obvious that it affects us like this ;) It simply sometimes plays with our minds just like everything else, and still it always sits there in the sky and looks back at us when we see it :rolleyes:

[chattanova]

Here's another great moon thread http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3308&highlight=hollow+moon

[soxism]

It's weird... its going to reveal itself soon as something FAR from what we have been told and led to believe.



I remember reading something about this somewhere. That one theory is that the moon was "Brought" here as a form of travel for. something. Possible the races that control many humans.

[cruise4]

There's a big shell out there and its all wallpaper. Thats why they never get anywhere really!

[kblood]

Anyone read about how NASA sends out their probing vessels into the galaxy? They calculate how much the space elements will affect the probe thingie they send out. Therefore the gravity of planets and other space elements is calculated into the route of the probe, and not just to make sure it doesnt crash into planets or moons :) They use the gravity of planets and moons for the probes to get even more speed and "fling" on the edges of the gravitation auras of the planets and moons. I find that quite fascinating.

That makes me think about the moon, and how it is possibly very well suited for this purpose. All it takes is good timing, and it is a nice take-off ramp right there, for all kinds of space travellers ;)

[kblood]

There's a big shell out there and its all wallpaper. Thats why they never get anywhere really!

That is another beauty of it all. This "matrix" world is not that artificial. We can in fact travel around this galaxy, when we get hands on a spaceship, suited for space travelling :) And I do believe that we are beginning to get close with our research on making our very own spaceships. When we do, whatever aliens there might be, will simply have to accept us as another species that can somewhat match them in the arts of space travel and hopefully intergalactic colonization.

That is some of the geek dreams that makes me all wet at night anyway :D

[eternal_spirit]

This thread is far out lol you lot have some imagination. It's a bright one tonight and full from where I'm looking from. I been moon bathing. The official story seems suspect to how the moon came to be the moon. If the Earth has life, why don't the moon, seeing as it's so close to us.

What did Pink Floyd really mean in the song with the lyrics...When you're Band start playing different tunes, I'll see you on the dark side of the moon?

[kblood]

A nice seemingly full moon here as well :D It feels strong to me, and I think it would be a nice time to go for a long walk in the moonlight :)

[lookfar]

WOW!! Just been doing some moon bathing too, what a beautiful night it is :D I always get mesmerised by the moon & I'm the same with sunsets too.

I've also just put all my crystals out to charge.

[scar]

Good thread.

The other night the moon was the brightest I've EVER seen it in my life. I stood there and stared at it for what seemed like hours, it's very soothing.

I wonder all the time what's on the "dark" side of the moon. I honestly think the Grey's are there, but that's just my opinion =). My intuition as been going frantic over the moon as well recently.. I don't know about anyone else..

[chattanova]

http://img27.picoodle.com/img/img27/9/8/31/f_moontm_18e3163.jpg

http://www.iwonderproductions.com/moon.htm

Alien Moon Base Satelitte Images

The structures have been censored and “smudged” so we have to leave a little bit to our fantasy :rolleyes:

http://www.cmf.nrl.navy.mil/cgi-bin/clementine/clib/multires.pl?clickres=5&ox=0&oy=0&res=0&size=768&latitude=0&longitude=318&submit=Use+Lat%252FLong&sensor=UVVIS&filter=415_nm

http://www.cmf.nrl.navy.mil/cgi-bin/clementine/clib/multires.pl?clickres=5&ox=0&oy=0&res=0&size=768&latitude=64&longitude=265&submit=Use+Lat%252FLong&sensor=UVVIS&filter=415_nm

http://www.cmf.nrl.navy.mil/cgi-bin/clementine/clib/multires.pl?clickres=5&ox=0&oy=0&res=0&size=768&latitude=-72&longitude=108&submit=Use+Lat%252FLong&sensor=UVVIS&filter=415_nm

http://www.cmf.nrl.navy.mil/clementine/clib/

http://www.cmf.nrl.navy.mil/cgi-bin/clementine/clib/multires.pl?clickres=5&ox=0&oy=0&res=0&size=768&latitude=70&longitude=240&submit=Use+Lat%252FLong&sensor=UVVIS&filter=415_nm

[chattanova]

ALIEN SPACESHIP ON THE MOON flyover bef. landing APOLLO 20
YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.

Buildings on the Moon...
YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.

Ancient City on the Moon (possible a fake?)
YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.

UFO - Moon (artifacts) investigation, on News
YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.

[chattanova]

Article here.. http://www.ufoarea.com/aas_moonphotoastronomer.html

[chattanova]

Ancient Structure On The Moon Filmed By Armstrong, 1969 - YouTube

The real moon landing vid ? fake or not, I guess this is more likely how it is up there

[cruise4]

Its a counterbalance to the 'unseen' dark portal the lizzies use to suck our fear energy through... thats a new one on me too.

[_underscore_]

Cut & Pasted from (_underscore_ emboldened the facts that he found most interesting):

http://www.informantnews.com/starshipgamma/lunar/moon2.html


The moon is the Rosetta stone of the planets." —Robert Jastrow, First Chairman, NASA Lunar Exploration Committee

After hundreds of years of detailed observation and study, our closest companion in the vast universe, Earth’s moon, remains an enigma. Six moon landings and hundreds of experiments have resulted in more questions being asked than answered. Among them:

1. Moon’s Age: The moon is far older than previously expected. Maybe even older than the Earth or the Sun. The oldest age for the Earth is estimated to be 4.6 billion years old; moon rocks were dated at 5.3 billion years old, and the dust upon which they were resting was at least another billion years older.
2. Rock’s Origin: The chemical composition of the dust upon which the rocks sat differed remarkably from the rocks themselves, contrary to accepted theories that the dust resulted from weathering and breakup of the rocks themselves. The rocks had to have come from somewhere else.
3. Heavier Elements on Surface: Normal planetary composition results in heavier elements in the core and lighter materials at the surface; not so with the moon. According to Wilson, "The abundance of refractory elements like titanium in the surface areas is so pronounced that several geologists proposed the refractory compounds were brought to the moon’s surface in great quantity in some unknown way. They don’t know how, but that it was done cannot be questioned." (Emphasis added).
4. Water Vapor: On March 7, 1971, lunar instruments placed by the astronauts recorded a vapor cloud of water passing across the surface of the moon. The cloud lasted 14 hours and covered an area of about 100 square miles.
5. Magnetic Rocks: Moon rocks were magnetized. This is odd because there is no magnetic field on the moon itself. This could not have originated from a "close call" with Earth—such an encounter would have ripped the moon apart.
6. No Volcanoes: Some of the moon’s craters originated internally, yet there is no indication that the moon was ever hot enough to produce volcanic eruptions.
7. Moon Mascons: Mascons, which are large, dense, circular masses lying twenty to forty miles beneath the centers of the moon’s maria, "are broad, disk-shaped objects that could be possibly some kind of artificial construction. For huge circular disks are not likely to be beneath each huge maria, centered like bull’s-eyes in the middle of each, by coincidence or accident." (Emphasis added).
8. Seismic Activity: Hundreds of "moonquakes" are recorded each year that cannot be attributed to meteor strikes. In November, 1958, Soviet astronomer Nikolay A. Kozyrev of the Crimean Astrophysical Observatory photographed a gaseous eruption of the moon near the crater Alphonsus. He also detected a reddish glow that lasted for about an hour. In 1963, astronomers at the Lowell Observatory also saw reddish glows on the crests of ridges in the Aristarchus region. These observations have proved to be precisely identical and periodical, repeating themselves as the moon moves closer to the Earth. These are probably not natural phenomena.
9. Hollow Moon: The moon’s mean density is 3.34 gm/cm3 (3.34 times an equal volume of water) whereas the Earth’s is 5.5. What does this mean? In 1962, NASA scientist Dr. Gordon MacDonald stated, "If the astronomical data are reduced, it is found that the data require that the interior of the moon is more like a hollow than a homogeneous sphere." Nobel chemist Dr. Harold Urey suggested the moon’s reduced density is because of large areas inside the moon where is "simply a cavity." MIT’s Dr. Sean C. Solomon wrote, "the Lunar Orbiter experiments vastly improved our knowledge of the moon’s gravitational field . . . indicating the frightening possibility that the moon might be hollow." In Carl Sagan’s treatise, Intelligent Life in the Universe, the famous astronomer stated, "A natural satellite cannot be a hollow object."
10. Moon Echoes: On November 20, 1969, the Apollo 12 crew jettisoned the lunar module ascent stage causing it to crash onto the moon. The LM’s impact (about 40 miles from the Apollo 12 landing site) created an artificial moonquake with startling characteristics—the moon reverberated like a bell for more than an hour. This phenomenon was repeated with Apollo 13 (intentionally commanding the third stage to impact the moon), with even more startling results. Seismic instruments recorded that the reverberations lasted for three hours and twenty minutes and traveled to a depth of twenty-five miles, leading to the conclusion that the moon has an unusually light—or even no—core.
11. Unusual Metals: The moon’s crust is much harder than presumed. Remember the extreme difficulty the astronauts encountered when they tried to drill into the maria? Surprise! The maria is composed primarily illeminite, a mineral containing large amounts of titanium, the same metal used to fabricate the hulls of deep-diving submarines and the skin of the SR-71 "Blackbird". Uranium 236 and neptunium 237 (elements not found in nature on Earth) were discovered in lunar rocks, as were rustproof iron particles.
12. Moon’s Origin: Before the astronauts’ moon rocks conclusively disproved the theory, the moon was believed to have originated when a chunk of Earth broke off eons ago (who knows from where?). Another theory was that the moon was created from leftover "space dust" remaining after the Earth was created. Analysis of the composition of moon rocks disproved this theory also. Another popular theory is that the moon was somehow "captured" by the Earth’s gravitational attraction. But no evidence exists to support this theory. Isaac Asimov, stated, "It’s too big to have been captured by the Earth. The chances of such a capture having been effected and the moon then having taken up nearly circular orbit around our Earth are too small to make such an eventuality credible."
13. Weird Orbit: Our moon is the only moon in the solar system that has a stationary, near-perfect circular orbit. Stranger still, the moon’s center of mass is about 6000 feet closer to the Earth than its geometric center (which should cause wobbling), but the moon’s bulge is on the far side of the moon, away from the Earth. "Something" had to put the moon in orbit with its precise altitude, course, and speed.
14. Moon Diameter: How does one explain the "coincidence" that the moon is just the right distance, coupled with just the right diameter, to completely cover the sun during an eclipse? Again, Isaac Asimov responds, "There is no astronomical reason why the moon and the sun should fit so well. It is the sheerest of coincidences, and only the Earth among all the planets is blessed in this fashion."
15. Spaceship Moon: As outrageous as the Moon-Is-a-Spaceship Theory is, all of the above items are resolved if one assumes that the moon is a gigantic extraterrestrial craft, brought here eons ago by intelligent beings. This is the only theory that is supported by all of the data, and there are no data that contradict this theory.

Greek authors Aristotle and Plutarch, and Roman authors Apolllonius Rhodius and Ovid all wrote of a group of people called the Proselenes who lived in the central mountainous area of Greece called Arcadia The Proselenes claimed title to this area because their forebears were there "before there was a moon in the heavens." This claim is substantiated by symbols on the wall of the Courtyard of Kalasasaya, near the city of Tiahuanaco, Bolivia, which record that the moon came into orbit around the Earth between 11,500 and 13, 000 years ago, long before recorded history.
1. Ages of Flashes: Aristarchus, Plato, Eratosthenes, Biela, Rabbi Levi, and Posidonius all reported anomalous lights on the moon. NASA, one year before the first lunar landing, reported 570+ lights and flashes were observed on the moon from 1540 to 1967.
2. Operation Moon Blink: NASA’s Operation Moon Blink detected 28 lunar events in a relatively short period of time.
3. Lunar Bridge: On July 29, 1953, John J. O’Neill observed a 12-mile-long bridge straddling the crater Mare Crisium. In August, British astronomer Dr. H.P. Wilkens verified its presence, "It looks artificial. It’s almost incredible that such a thing could have been formed in the first instance, or if it was formed, could have lasted during the ages in which the moon has been in existence.
4. The Shard: The Shard, an obelisk-shaped object that towers 1½ miles from the Ukert area of the moon’s surface, was discovered by Orbiter 3 in 1968. Dr. Bruce Cornet, who studied the amazing photographs, stated, "No known natural process can explain such a structure."
5. The Tower: One of the most curious features ever photographed on the Lunar surface (Lunar Orbiter photograph III-84M) is an amazing spire that rises more than 5 miles from the Sinus Medii region of the lunar surface.
6. The Obelisks: Lunar Orbiter II took several photographs in November 1966 that showed several obelisks, one of which was more than 150 feet tall. ". . . the spires were arranged in precisely the same was as the apices of the three great pyramids."

[crowhawk]

Of course the moon is illuminated by the sun's reflection. What else could it be? A giant hollow lampshade with a huge bulb inside like an interplanetary light-house? You can see the earth's shadow in the phases of the lunar cycle. If observed from the moon, the earth would be illuminated in the same way. Has the last vestiges of common sense completely flown the coop? There's healthy skepticism but bloody hell???!

[mr_moon]

Of course the moon is illuminated by the sun's reflection. What else could it be? A giant hollow lampshade with a huge bulb inside like an interplanetary light-house? You can see the earth's shadow in the phases of the lunar cycle. If observed from the moon, the earth would be illuminated in the same way. Has the last vestiges of common sense completely flown the coop? There's healthy skepticism but bloody hell???!

Now then... i can understand why you might think this (i did until a few weeks ago...) but i was looking at the moon and thinking about this. The 'shadow' on the Moon, as i would have expected, wasn't the correct way round... what i mean is, instead of a curve pointing toward the left like a 'C' shape, it was actually the other way round... which actually would have meant that the Earth changed shape as it cast a shadow.

It's difficult to explain in words... do you know what i mean?

I don't think we should believe everything we're told until we experience it ourselves...

[crowhawk]

But, don't you think that this bizarre phenomenon should have caused a few remarks from some of the astronomers, who couldn't have failed to notice it? There must be thousands, of people pointing telescopes at the sky at any one time.

[lucifershammer]

Now then... i can understand why you might think this (i did until a few weeks ago...) but i was looking at the moon and thinking about this. The 'shadow' on the Moon, as i would have expected, wasn't the correct way round... what i mean is, instead of a curve pointing toward the left like a 'C' shape, it was actually the other way round... which actually would have meant that the Earth changed shape as it cast a shadow.

It's difficult to explain in words... do you know what i mean?

I don't think we should believe everything we're told until we experience it ourselves...

ok. its not the shadow of the earth on the moon that causes the darkness on the moon.. thats called an eclipse which happens from time to time. the regular phases of the moon is caused by the position of the the moon in relation to the sun and earth. 1/2 of the moon is ALWAYS illuminated by the sun, but depending on the position of the earth in relation to that 1/2, we may only see part of the moon illuminated. hence the curve.

Lunar phase - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[adzboarder]

The moon is full and fat tonight! Perfect for riding mountain boards on golf courses. In fact I would LOVE to mountain board on the moon, think of the air you would get! Would be awesome.

Make it so, Mr Branson.

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/143/387081159_f938fbf2c7.jpg

[hagbard_celine]

But, don't you think that this bizarre phenomenon should have caused a few remarks from some of the astronomers, who couldn't have failed to notice it? There must be thousands, of people pointing telescopes at the sky at any one time.

And thousands have reported seeing strange things on it. Moon anomalies have been reported since the invention of the telescope. Famous astronomers like Cassini and Galieo saw objects moving acorss its disk.

[chattanova]

And thousands have reported seeing strange things on it. Moon anomalies have been reported since the invention of the telescope. Famous astronomers like Cassini and Galieo saw objects moving acorss its disk.

Here two recently filmed objects at/close to moon.
The first video is filmed by some Italian astronomers and the second by a guy in Kentucky.
Both filmed on the same day!!
I started a thread on it but it definetly belongs here too.


Astronomer filmed a UFO on the moon

On June 29, 2007 Alberto Mayer was taking a series of images of the moons surface. Then he suddenly noticed a strange black spot on the edge of the satelitt.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2705745539059578202&hl=en

http://www.ufoarea.com/aas_moonphotoastronomer.html


Drone Like UFO on Moon captured on Video night of Eclipse

VIDEO - http://www.wtvq.com/midatlantic/tvq/news.apx.-content-articles-TVQ-2007-09-18-0019.htmlmidatlantic/tvq/news.apx.-content-articles-TVQ-2007-09-18-0019.html

the thread - http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=10482

[hagbard_celine]

Thanks, Chat. I'll check them out.

:)

[blue]

Do any of you guys use a telescope to check on the moon. any of you have every used a telescope to view it, what kind of telescope would it be then.:confused::confused:

[real6]

Since our interaction with the aliens began we have come into possession of technology beyond our wildest dreams. A craft named "Aurora" exists at Area 51 which makes regular trips into space. It is a one stage ship called a TAV (transatmospheric vehicle) and it can take off from the ground using a seven mile runway, go into high orbit, return on its own power, and land on the same runway. We currently have and fly atomic powered alien type craft at Area S-4 in Nevada. Our pilots have made interplanetary voyages in these craft and have been to the Moon, Mars, and other planets aboard these craft. We have been lied to about the true nature of the Moon, the planet Mars and Venus and the real state of technology that we possess today at this very moment.

There are areas on the Moon where plant life grows and even changes color with the seasons. This seasonal effect is because the Moon does not, as claimed, always present the exact same side to the Earth or the Sun. There is an area that wobbles in and out of the darkness on a seasonal basis and it is near this area that the plant life grows. The Moon does have a few man-made lakes and ponds upon its surface and clouds have been observed and filmed in its atmosphere. It possesses a gravitational field and man can walk upon its surface without a space suit breathing from an oxygen bottle after undergoing decompression the same as any deep sea diver. I have seen the photographs and some of them were actually published in the book "We Discovered Alien Bases On The Moon" by Fred Steckling.

[chattanova]

Aliens forced Americans out from the Moon

One of Russia's central television channels, RTR, has recently aired a documentary about US astronauts who allegedly came across extraterrestrial civilizations. The film showed Russian ufologist Vladimir Azhazha and astronomer Yevgeny Arsyukhin telling that expeditions to the Moon launched within 1969-1972 allegedly came across UFOs.

The researchers state that flying objects of extraterrestrial origin were persistently spying on American Apollos. They said the expeditions to the Moon looked very much like a race and presented a film demonstrating a luminous object closely following an American spaceship. Records of communication between astronauts and the Mission Control Center were also included into the film but they were absolutely inaudible as they had been purposefully jammed by Americans. They expected that the expeditions would find something astonishing on the Moon and with the view of keeping their communication with the surface secret they encoded their messages to the MCC. When the records of communication were later deciphered it turned out that the US missions came across lunar bases, remains of space vehicles and deserted towns on the Moon.

The film stated that lunar creatures would not tolerate the presence of Earth dwellers for long. When Americans brought a dummy car to furrow Moon craters, the creatures living on the satellite began to demonstrate their furious protest against the US presence on the Moon. Filmmakers said that green dwellers of the Moon told Americans to go home as they wanted to keep secret the sublunar bases that they used to observe the life on the Earth. It was alleged that NASA was afraid of conflicting with a highly developed civilization and immediately stopped the program. Does the film sound believable?

In a couple of days, Americans demonstrated their documentary about the Apollo expeditions, In the Shadow of the Moon, with records of the flights to the Moon that were specially processed after the video archives of the Moon program had disappeared. Is it true that the archives were lost? It seems that the CIA wanted to wipe out tracks of a contact between US astronauts and extraterrestrials

http://english.pravda.ru/science/mysteries/03-10-2007/98123-moon-0

[clint web]

The moon isn't even real. It's a hologram.

[gordonfreeman]

A giant hologram?

[mr_moon]

The moon isn't even real. It's a hologram.

But not a lightbulb...?

You're kidding aren't you...?:D

[thefallguy]

Hi Mr Moon, I've just posted this somewhere else and thought you might like to take a look at it:

Very close footage.

The Moon:

301 Moved Permanently

More Moon: ( the object at the end is next to the moon)

301 Moved Permanently

thefallguy(Gridkeeper)

[mr_moon]

Hi Mr Moon, I've just posted this somewhere else and thought you might like to take a look at it:

Very close footage.

The Moon:

http://blip.tv/file/400504

More Moon: ( the object at the end is next to the moon)

http://blip.tv/file/403836

thefallguy(Gridkeeper)

weird... not too sure what i was looking at however but it was interesting nonetheless...!

cheers for that man

[clint web]

You're kidding aren't you...?:D

Sure am ;)

[thefallguy]

weird... not too sure what i was looking at however but it was interesting nonetheless...!

cheers for that man

Hi, I know what you mean, took me several years to get my head around this!

These videos might explain a bit more, in the second one, look at the moon video and you will see a large pyramid like structure with a curving path running down from it, look up to the left of that where you will see two sttange bright structures in which one has a giant loop in it at the top. These are all artificial and are extremely big.


Fact ? Fiction ? UFO In Our Reality - Space Objects and more
UFO In Our Reality Fact ? Fiction ? Space Objects and more - YouTube

This one has a real Transformer in it, I believe this is the first ever video which shows this incredible structure, maybe it's organic. it moves so fast I had to slow the clip down!
Far Above Space and Time - Compilation of 40 space videos.
F.A.S.T. Real Star Wars - Compilation of 40 Space UFO videos - YouTube

[368jrn]

The moon is in an eliptical orbit as are all the planets, and so varies in distance from the earth. So how come that when theres a total eclipse its always just the right distance to cover the sun so you can see the suns corona?

Is it just a perfect coincidence that the moon and sun are the same relative size from earth?:) Any ideas anyone?

[chattanova]

http://img29.picoodle.com/img/img29/5/11/11/f_as159112403m_fd28b16.jpg


http://www.lpi.usra.edu/resources/apollo/frame/?AS15-91-12403

http://img32.picoodle.com/img/img32/5/11/11/f_dome2221rb4m_b39fc9c.jpg

[rynath]

The Japanese moon probe Kaguya features some HD video:

http://space.jaxa.jp/movie/20071113_kaguya_movie01_e.html

http://space.jaxa.jp/movie/20071113_kaguya_movie02_e.html

I wonder if they found anything strange? This would be the technology to get perfect pictures or video of any anomolies.

[thefallguy]

New Moon footage - Close up and personal

New Moon footage - Close up and personal - YouTube

[hagbard_celine]

The Japanese moon probe Kaguya features some HD video:

http://space.jaxa.jp/movie/20071113_kaguya_movie01_e.html

http://space.jaxa.jp/movie/20071113_kaguya_movie02_e.html

I wonder if they found anything strange? This would be the technology to get perfect pictures or video of any anomolies.

It would indeed. But whether the rest of us would be allowed to see them is another matter.

[thefallguy]

This is a still from the video I posted above in this thread.
Bridge On the Moon - YouTube

[thefallguy]

The MOON close up - filmed on the 25th January 2008 - YouTube

[thefallguy]

Tracking Space UFO + Close Moon View 2008 - YouTube

MOON - Filmed 19th December 2007 Part 1 Cam Test - YouTube

[swoarg]

i read some were a while ago that the moon is hollow and was built for alliens to view us:D

[91181]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=orwaAutuBhw&feature=related

[saab1981]

I believe that the Galactic Federation use it as a base? Apparently, they have an armada out near the Kupier belts, and contact may come in the near future, hence the rise in mass UFO sightings we seem to be having, as they scout the earth.

I may have to put the bong away now!

[angelicangel]

How do you know that there is a federation to do with the invasion of any other planet? Unless you are part of the federation in the first place. This sounds a bit Star Trekkie to me!!!!!!!!

[saab1981]

I googled them, and took what they said to be gospel.;)

[angelicangel]

I googled them, and took what they said to be gospel.;)I'm not saying they are telling lies, but there has to be some kind of proof to be able to say that GF have something to do with it. We gave up moon landings "" "" sometime ago, why I don't know. It is still being worked out if they are film set or the real thing. I know what I feel and so do quite a lot of other people. They never "" "" found anything then, so why should there be a GF now.:p

[real6]

What do you Guys/Gals think?

http://www.thelivingmoon.com/43ancie..._Lunar_02.html

http://212.23.30.185:88/aj/moonc.html


Clear Moon Pics!!!

http://www.thelivingmoon.com/43ancie...ages_Mike.html



Aristarchus Crater
Electric Blue Gem or Fusion Reactor?

Aristarchus Crater has long been a much debated enigma on the Moon. Yet whenever you see pictures and try to get close in for details, the area is a total white out, with no detail. It is supposedly because of its brightness. We will discuss the rumors and stories of Aristarchus further down. The image above is taken from LICKOSB9 As you can see the area is devoid of any gray pixels, leaving a totally white splotch. Below is the same area on LICKOSBA. Again we see the totally white splotch. You will find this in all of the lesser quality full moon images on the web.




John Lear believes this to be a Fusion Reactor. Other members of Pegasus have different ideas, but all are related to some sort of power device. We now have several images from several independent sources showing the electric blue glow and the "structure". All the images we have seen where "the lights are on" show this regular uniform structure, yet many photos can be found that show just a crater.

Transient Lunar Phenomena (TLP)

From this and other documentary evidence we have gathered, it appears that this phenomena is not always on. When all the data is correlated it will be presented here on this website. but here are a few observances around Aristarchus Crater...

Report Nov 2-3, 1958

"On the night of November 2-3, 1958, Russian astronomer Nikolai A. Kozyrev witnessed a strange phenomenon while making spectrograms of the crater Alphonsus with the Crimean Astrophysical Observatory's 50-inch reflector. As he watched through the telescope's guiding eyepiece, he saw the crater's central peak blur and turn an unusual reddish color. The spectrograms confirmed his visual impressions of a volcanic event; they showed an emission spectrum of carbon vapor (S&T:February, 1959, page 184).. Kozyrev has recorded via spectrograms numerous incidents of red transient lunar phenomena, particularly in the 80 mile wide crater known as Alphonsus. It was at this location in 1965 that the final Ranger probe 9 crash landed. Aristarchus is not only one of the brightest formations on the moon, it is responsible for more than half the number of reported TLP and has been a proven source for gaseous emissions - Farshores.org

Reports 1650 to 1950

NASA Technical Report TR R-277. was published in July 1968 as a Chronological Catalog of Reported Lunar Events and is available here - NASA Technical Report TR R-277

1650 Aristarchus "Red Hill." Mons Porphyrites Hevelius B.A.A. Lunar Sec. Circa. 1967, 2, No 8

1784 Aristarchus Nebulous bright spot of light Schroter Schroter 1791
1785 Aristarchus Nebulous bright spot of light Schroter Schroter 1791
1786 Dec 24 Aristarchus Extraordinarily bright Schroter Schroter 1791
1787 May 19-20 Aristarchus Extraordinarily bright von Bruhl Bode 1790; Schroter 1791; Herschel 1912
1788 Apr 9 Aristarchus; 1 hr Extraordinarily bright Bode Bode 1792b
1788 Apr 9-11 Aristarchus Bright spot 26" N of crater rim Schroter, Bode Schroter 1789, 1791, 1792a, 1792b
1788 Sep 26 Near Aristarchus; 30 min Bright spot 26" N of main crater Schroter Rozier 1788, 1792; Schroter 1791
1788 Dec 2, 5:35 am Aristarchus Extraordinarily bright, like star Schroter Schroter 1791

1824 May 1 Near Aristarchus Blinking light, 9th to 10th mag.. on dark side Gobel Gobel 1826
1824 Oct 18 Aristarchus, vicinity Mingling of all kinds of colors in small spots in the W and NW of Aristarchus Gruithuisen Gruithuisen 1824; Fauth 1899
1825 Apr 22 Aristarchus and vicinity Periodic illumination Argelander, Gobel Argelander 1826, Gobel 1826
1866 Jun 10 Aristarchus Star like light Tempel Denning, Tel.Work p.121
1866 Jun 14-16 Aristarchus, vicinity Reddish yellow Tempel Tempel 1867
1866 Dark side Bright spots Hodgson Hodgson 1866
1867 Apr 9, 19h30m - 21h00m Aristarchus, vicinity; 1 hr 30 min Bright spot on dark side, 7th mag., becoming fainter after 20h15m UT Elger Elger 1868
1867 Apr 12, 07h30m - 08h30m Aristarchus, vicinity; 1 hr Bright spot on dark side, 7th mag.. Elger Webb 1962
1867 May 6-7 Aristarchus; at least several hours each night Left side of crater, very bright luminous point, appearing like a volcano Flammarion Flammarion 1884
1867 May 7 Aristarchus, vicinity Reddish yellow, beacon like light Tempel Tempel 1867; Astr. Reg. 1868
1884 Nov 29, 19h00m - 21h00m Aristarchus; 2 hr Nebulous at center; elsewhere features well defined Hislop Sirius 1885
1889 Jul 12, ~20h52m Aristarchus During lunar eclipse, brilliance in surrounding gloom was striking Krueger Krueger 1889; Fisher 1924
1891 May 23, ~18h20m Aristarchus region Lunar eclipse, half hour before end of totality, Aristarchus and region immediately N of it became conspicuous and increased in brightness from that time on W.E. Jackson Jackson 1890-91; Fisher 1924

1931 Aristarchus Bluish glare Goodacre, Molesworth Goodacre 1931
1949 Oct 7, ~02h54m Aristarchus Abnormally bright during lunar eclipse G.Brown, Hare Contrib. by Moore
1949 Nov 3, 01h06m Aristarchus Blue glare, base inner W wall Bartlett Bartlett 1967

1950 Jun 27, 02h30m Aristarchus Blue glare, base inner W wall Bartlett Bartlett 1967
1950 Jun 27 Herodotus Bright point in crater Bartlett Strol. Astr. 1962
1950 Jun 28, 03h27m Aristarchus Blue glare, rim of W wall Bartlett Bartlett 1967
1950 Jun 29, 05h30m Aristarchus Strong bluish glare; E, SE wall Bartlett Bartlett 1967
1950 Jul 26, 02h52m Aristarchus Blue glare, base inner W wall Bartlett Bartlett 1967
1950 Jul 31, 04h50m Aristarchus Violet glare, E, NE rim Bartlett Bartlett 1967
1950 Aug 28, 04h25m Aristarchus Intense blue violet glare; E wall bright spot, E, NE rim Bartlett Bartlett 1967

[sexi_co]

Now then. Is it just me or does something inside me, since becoming more and more aware about my Consciousness and Intuition, resonate the same with you as it does with me:

"The Light from the Moon is NOT a reflection of the Suns rays"

If this is the case, then what is the Moon exactly? My Intuition keeps telling me that it is actually emitting this light, consequently making it a possible inhabited planet that is observing our Earth.

There are Beings on the planet Moon.

If the moon emitted its own light, we would see a full moon everyday.

;):)

[real6]

bUMP

[crowhawk]

The moon is in an eliptical orbit as are all the planets, and so varies in distance from the earth. So how come that when theres a total eclipse its always just the right distance to cover the sun so you can see the suns corona?

Is it just a perfect coincidence that the moon and sun are the same relative size from earth?:) Any ideas anyone?


The Moon is something like 25x smaller than the Sun, but the Sun is 25 x further from the Earth. This gives them the appearance of being of equal size!

[audiolink]

Morning All
If anyone has NASA World Wind, you can check out a few planets. Have a look at the moon and where the south pole area is you will see what looks like an ICBM.
It looks badly damaged and you can see tracks on it and also a drawbar for towing.
If you have the name tags on it is in the Shackleton area.
Also you can see anomolies all round that area that don't focus too well but it does focus elsewhere.
Check it out

http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg240/audiolink21/MoonShotfromNasaWorldWind.jpg

[chattanova]

2006-Photographs of Moon Show Unknown Moving Object ?

As I looked at Florida Moon Photo, I remembered that I once took a photo of the moon showing something very similar in shape in front of it.

That photo, P1000516, was taken with my Panasonic Lumix DZ-50 mounted on a tripod, using all optical and digital zoom at 6:35 PM on December 29, 2006, from the balcony of our house in Germany.

I took a series of photos of the moon on that evening. P1000518, a similar photo taken just 3 minutes later (as you can see from the file's timestamp), doesn't show the object over this crater, so it must have been moving. The picture P1000517 between the latter two photos was unfortunately junk because I hit one of the tripod's legs when standing up while the camera was exposing.

As last time with the Bulgaria/Hanover photographs, I tried to create enhanced versions of the pictures which are also enclosed. Feel free to use them or create your own, maybe you can achieve better results than I did.

Please let me know what you think about this photo. You have my permission to feature all the pictures and information on your website, of course.

Kind regards and thanks in advance,

Matt F.

http://img34.picoodle.com/img/img34/4/6/7/f_moon516m_e973c16.jpg

http://img33.picoodle.com/img/img33/4/6/7/f_moon518m_3bd6592.jpg

http://www.ufocasebook.com/2008b/moonphotosgermany.html

[bill23]

the distance/size between the earth/moon/sun is very interesting. if it was hollow then surely it wouldnt have much gravitional pull? this would then show up when they catapult space crafts off it? and there is no way it emits light.

[368jrn]

correction ( to my earlier posting), apparently the moon is in a nearly perfect circular orbit, unlike any other celestial body whose orbits are eliptical, now hows that then?:confused:

[cruise4]

I've been watching the moon lately. It appears to me to be motoring around. Someone else said this but I couldn't find the thread.

[marpat]

I've been watching the moon lately. It appears to me to be motoring around. Someone else said this but I couldn't find the thread.

Have you been timing it as it progresses? pure observation can be a bit misleading as the perception of time can vary depending on your state of mind.

[chattanova]

Google Moon

A photographic map of the equatorial region with pan and zoom capability, showing
locations of the Apollo landings

http://www.google.com/moon/

[nessa felagund]

Google Moon

That's cool, chattanova--and probably as close as I'll ever come to the moon. :D Thanks for posting that :)

[chattanova]

That's cool, chattanova--and probably as close as I'll ever come to the moon. :D Thanks for posting that :)

lol it probably is:D
I'm curious if there are any anomalies to spot or if its delivered finished 'smudged' and ready for sheeple viewing :confused:

[nessa felagund]

lol it probably is:D
I'm curious if there are any anomalies to spot or if its delivered finished 'smudged' and ready for sheeple viewing :confused:

That's hard to say--it's entirely possible it could be 'smudged.' I'm certainly no expert on photography so I would not be able to tell.

But the link is really cool and the moon is a mysterious object--fascinating to study. :)

[chattanova]

Uncensored NASA Moon Images



Here are the uncensored Moon Images taken by the Lunar Orbiter! According to Space Imaging expert Keith Laney, in a response to the images I posted on his web site, he says:

"Those particular LO images are from Prof. Robinson's collection, he's had them online for years and years. They are uncensored. I have found scores of anomalies on them, pretty devastating too.

But try and sell it to anyone other than us!"

Well, it has taken hours of poring over them to identify some very interesting anomalies. Considering the interest it may generate, I wonder if it would be yanked off the net soon. But before that happens, I hope some of you anomaly hunters post the best anomalies found in these images here on ATS.

All these images, as mentioned by Keith, are from Prof Robinson’s collection and posted on the Arizona State University’s Space Exploration Resources website.

How were these images obtained?

According to Arizona State University, the Lunar Orbiter images were all digitally scanned at 400 dpi at the Lunar and Planetary Institute in Houston. Whole images were too large to be scanned at once and were broken up into four sections.

From the data and resources about each lunar orbiter image found in Anderson and Miller (1971), they obtained information about the side length, altitude and emission angle of the images they scanned. To calculate the resolution of each image they followed several steps. They first calculated the resolution of images with an emission angle of less than 10° by dividing the side length of each image by the number of pixels, and then calculated the distance to the surface by dividing the altitude by the cosine of the emission angle. The resolution of low-emission angle images was plotted against their distance to the surface. From this was obtained the best-fit equation:
Corrected Resolution = -0.0023272 + 0.014376 * Distance to Surface
and applied it to the remaining images to get the corrected resolution.

And now for some of the interesting anomalies in the uncensored images:

structures:
http://img33.picoodle.com/data/img33/3/8/20/f_moonSpires3m_658c8c2.jpg

tower?:
http://img26.picoodle.com/data/img26/3/8/20/f_moonSpires9m_bdea598.jpg

structures:
http://img33.picoodle.com/data/img33/3/8/20/f_moonSpires1m_680a67b.jpg

paralell tracks:
http://img29.picoodle.com/data/img29/3/8/20/f_MoonSpires1m_b9205a8.jpg

the photos http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread383270/pg1

[seeker1111]

the moon has been so damn bright lately...

i'm reminded of a giant fluorescent lightbulb in the sky whenever i see it

i was having a pyschedelic experience a week ago and it was so bright it hurt my eyes!

i'm fascinated by it whatever it is...

[chattanova]

Another Suspicious Moon Anomaly




Mind Bending anomaly on our Moon


There are many Anomalies on Earth's Moon and they were photographed by NASA , but we are left with no explanations for them and we have to try to figure out on our own what they are and what do they mean ?

This particular Anomaly has always had me puzzled and i wanted to see what other people believe this to be. There is no doubt in my mind that there is something solid and real shown in these pictures and are not a trick of light or shadow's.

The following pictures to me look like the famous anomalous 'Shard' that was discovered on the Moon during the Apollo missions. Is the anomaly in the picture actually a shard that is laying down or that has been destroyed ? or is it a crashed spaceship of ours ? and there are others who will say it is a Alien spaceship ?

what do you think it is ?

this Apollo 10 picture is posted on the Lunar and Planetary Institute's website... here is the link to the picture....

www.lpi.usra.edu...
Lunar and Planetary Institute (LPI)

www.lpi.usra.edu...
Apollo Image Atlas


http://img28.picoodle.com/data/img28/3/8/20/f_3993m_a3c8ce7.jpg

http://img37.picoodle.com/data/img37/3/8/20/f_3993ar22m_0bb7ff2.jpg

http://img26.picoodle.com/data/img26/3/8/20/f_3993ar53m_1dad38b.jpg

http://img27.picoodle.com/data/img27/3/8/20/f_3993arlm_6e1f0f3.jpg

http://img28.picoodle.com/data/img28/3/8/20/f_3993ar43m_d5a328e.jpg

pics/thread - http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread381932/pg1

[who elsie]

Nothing to do with lunar anamolies (although we thought it was to begin with), but did anyone see the near total eclipse of the moon last week (16th Aug, I think)? I was in Turkey sitting in a beach bar and the view was fantastic. It was a full, bright moon and we just watched it get slowly eaten away by the shadow of the earth. Fantastic! :)

[chattanova]

Nothing to do with lunar anamolies (although we thought it was to begin with), but did anyone see the near total eclipse of the moon last week (16th Aug, I think)? I was in Turkey sitting in a beach bar and the view was fantastic. It was a full, bright moon and we just watched it get slowly eaten away by the shadow of the earth. Fantastic! :)

Yeah, I couldn't believe what was going on ,the day before it was almost full and there had been little or no mentioning of it but after a little browsing I could calm down, It will happen 4 times this decade btw :)

[who elsie]

Yeah, I couldn't believe what was going on ,the day before it was almost full and there had been little or no mentioning of it but after a little browsing I could calm down, It will happen 4 times this decade btw :)

Glad I wasn't the only one that saw it. Where I was hardly anyone else seemed to even notice - even though they were outdoors on a clear night. We thought we were seeing things too as there'd been virtually no media coverage. Glad I saw it though.

[real6]

Another Suspicious Moon Anomaly


Nothing to do with lunar anamolies (although we thought it was to begin with), but did anyone see the near total eclipse of the moon last week (16th Aug, I think)? I was in Turkey sitting in a beach bar and the view was fantastic. It was a full, bright moon and we just watched it get slowly eaten away by the shadow of the earth. Fantastic! :)


If your are talking about that Anomaly, then you are bugging!!!

[chattanova]

''The Moon Uncovered''

The Moon Uncovered-

The UFO Casebook received the report and video below from our Forum global moderator, Larry.

I know you're interested in the Moon and Mars, and I have been too for about two years now. I think most, if not all, the Moon and Mars photos are nearly completely painted over in all the photos I've seen so far.

I also think that most, if not all, the photos are flipped over 90 degrees, or they could be taking them with a telescope type camera, that way the pics would be upside down.

I'm not really looking for structures, though they would be nice to find, what I am interested in is the design underneath the paint, circles, squares, rectangles, etc., too many 90 degree angles to be geology.

To me the design looks like one flying over a city on Earth at a high altitude, not really being able to tell what you're seeing for sure, but knowing that civilization of some kind is down there.

Thought I'd share this picture video I made with you to see what you thought.

Larry

VIDEO http://www.ufocasebook.com/2008c/moonuncovered.html

[piskavac]

There are Beings on the planet Moon.

But Moon isn't planet. I think this is Earth satelite which is much older than Earth. When Sun's system is formed, he was captured by gravity field of Earth, and now it stands there.

[piskavac]

That is another beauty of it all. This "matrix" world is not that artificial. We can in fact travel around this galaxy, when we get hands on a spaceship, suited for space travelling :) And I do believe that we are beginning to get close with our research on making our very own spaceships. When we do, whatever aliens there might be, will simply have to accept us as another species that can somewhat match them in the arts of space travel and hopefully intergalactic colonization.

That is some of the geek dreams that makes me all wet at night anyway :D

Mankind on the Earth won't have spacecraft soon. Even, maybe - never.

[astrochicken]

IMHO it's the Death Star.

[thefallguy]

Hi, I've posted a lot of moon videos in another thread which doesn't even have moon in the title so I thought I'd better post this somewhere else and didn't want to start a new thread. hope you don't mind, cheers. Moon filmed November 2008 Close Up Walson's Peak no longer there. watch in HQ - YouTube

[chattanova]

Hi, I've posted a lot of moon videos in another thread which doesn't even have moon in the title so I thought I'd better post this somewhere else and didn't want to start a new thread. hope you don't mind, cheers. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8W9gIJEb4Q

Raw footage from the moon, amazing! Thanks for sharing, I love these.

[signs]

Hi, I've posted a lot of moon videos in another thread which doesn't even have moon in the title so I thought I'd better post this somewhere else and didn't want to start a new thread. hope you don't mind, cheers. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8W9gIJEb4Q



So Walsons Peak is no longer there:eek:, what happened to it, why is this not being reported in the main stream media or in any scientific journals.This is another anomaly that we should be asking NASA and scientific government bodies about.:)

[shabun]

So Walsons Peak is no longer there:eek:, what happened to it, why is this not being reported in the main stream media or in any scientific journals.This is another anomaly that we should be asking NASA and scientific government bodies about.:)

The reason this is not being reported in mainstream media is because it is nonsense.

[dankai]

That is another beauty of it all. This "matrix" world is not that artificial. We can in fact travel around this galaxy, when we get hands on a spaceship, suited for space travelling :) And I do believe that we are beginning to get close with our research on making our very own spaceships. When we do, whatever aliens there might be, will simply have to accept us as another species that can somewhat match them in the arts of space travel and hopefully intergalactic colonization.

That is some of the geek dreams that makes me all wet at night anyway :D
wow....LOL

[rhydra]

http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/9726/chandrayaan1ve4.jpg

An interesting picture just taken by the Indian Moon mission, Chandrayaan-1.

Link. (http://www.isro.org/chandrayaan/htmls/ImageMoon.htm)

First link at top at the time of posting, about halfway down.

[thefallguy]

watch in high quality
Neil Armstrong speaks about truth.
The Moon, One Of Truth's Protective Layers Part 1 of 2 - YouTube

Look at the edge of the moon when it is full.


Moon filmed using a 12" meade LX90 telescope.

[marpat]

Now then. Is it just me or does something inside me, since becoming more and more aware about my Consciousness and Intuition, resonate the same with you as it does with me:

"The Light from the Moon is NOT a reflection of the Suns rays"

If this is the case, then what is the Moon exactly? My Intuition keeps telling me that it is actually emitting this light, consequently making it a possible inhabited planet that is observing our Earth.

There are Beings on the planet Moon.

Well if it is not a reflection can you explaing the waxing and waning phases, when the earth passes between the sun and moon? if it was self illuminated then it would be whole all the time would it not.

Your intuition is wrong.

[duckingdafta]

would it not.

Your intuition is wrong.

No!...so is yours

[marpat]

No!...so is yours

Another pointless post, bit like yourself really. Pointless.:D

[chattanova]

An Enormous Tower on the Moon ?

http://img32.picoodle.com/img/img32/3/1/24/f_9u5dhsm_86bd36e.jpg

http://www.enterprisemission.com/mphotos.html

[piskavac]

An Enormous Tower on the Moon ?

What are pressumed the "conspiracy theorists", for what purpose this tower served? And which race built it?

[lightblessins]

The moon is the biggest peice of celetial existance known!!!!!

[skunksmash]

if the moon is a ''functioning'' base, why would it be dotted with ruins..??


maybe the ruins were built by man in early history, the Annunaki may have taken us there..??


:)SK

[1971]

wow have you seen the moon tonight? Its massive...

[lala_says_so]

if the moon is a ''functioning'' base, why would it be dotted with ruins..??



Remember that really cheesy 90's cartoon, Sailor Moon?

She was an alien princess that lived on the moon "a millennia ago'.

Here's the prologue they showed b4 the first episode: Youtube Link

The humanoid's were kicked off the moon by an evil reptilian species (The enemy appears as human, then transforms into lizard-monster thing) from another dimension (Negaverse) that needs human's energy to stay alive.

Um....sounds familiar?

I always thought the show was stupid, 'considering how ruins on the moon would be a bit obvious. (Also, 'cause the whole plot was a 14 year old girl with a magic wand being the World's only hope)

Anyway, on one of the last episodes, they explained how the ruins were masked by magic crystal hologram things. (That made sense. How they were breathing on the moon...not so much)


So:

Maybe the reptilians/dracos/greys.... have altered our perception of the moon, somehow.

If we really DID land on the moon, maybe the inconsistencies in the video were due to Aliens manipulating the tape/filming. I'm sure they would have the technology (They, like, built a Death Star sort-of space station. It would be odd if they didn't)

[backbeat]

I don't claim to know much about astronomy, but the fact that we only see one side of it at all times really makes me curious.


This is nothing unusual, most moons of other planets in the solar system share this phenomena of only presenting one side of their surface to the host planet, it's called Tidal Locking.

[astrochicken]

Cristoph is peering out throught a window.


The last few years.. moonlight shadows and moonbeams have really gone out of all proportion.

Some nights it's like boogie-boarding or surfing.. you can feel, see and sense the waves rippling across the sky and encompassing trees and *washing* by,
phew, shake it off and then the next wave comes crashing in.


Definetly put there intentionally, full of bases and populated by german terrestrials since at least ww2.

[relax]

if the moon is a ''functioning'' base, why would it be dotted with ruins..??


maybe the ruins were built by man in early history, the Annunaki may have taken us there..??


:)SK

I dont think they where built by man, but maybe the same forces that built the ones on earth. It would be dotted in ruins because all planets and moons are possibly hollow as its a preferred place to live.

[chattanova]

I don't know about the authenticy of this, but it haven't been posted here I think..

http://img19.picoodle.com/img/img19/3/4/6/kennet/f_moonbasem_9c17bf1.jpg

[venividivici2311]

I don't know about the authenticy of this, but it haven't been posted here I think..

http://img19.picoodle.com/img/img19/3/4/6/kennet/f_moonbasem_9c17bf1.jpg

:eek: chat,very nice,definetly artificial!never seen the picture before,looks genuine.

[chattanova]

:eek: chat,very nice,definetly artificial!never seen the picture before,looks genuine.

Yes very interesting, i found it yesterday in a thread at above top secret. But i can't find it back now.
Anyway what was said was there was little or no background information at this pic, so we can keep all opportunities open I guess. :cool:

[venividivici2311]

Yes very interesting, i found it yesterday in a thread at above top secret. But i can't find it back now.
Anyway what was said was there was little or no background information at this pic, so we can keep all opportunities open I guess. :cool:

You know what it looks like?there whas a thread about it a few weeks ago,the apparently ruins of atlantis found via google ocean.Those lines looked exactly the same as these.

[piskavac]

if the moon is a ''functioning'' base, why would it be dotted with ruins..??


maybe the ruins were built by man in early history, the Annunaki may have taken us there..??


:)SK

But, why they taken man(kind) on the Moon? Is it better in order to enslave people that nobody of (wo)man ever went to the Moon? And that mankind see as little of their tehnology as possible?

[thefallguy]

I've posted these in my moon week thread and thought some of you may like to see them here, cheers.
This one shows the Rima Hadley area.
Gridkeeper Music Channel Launch Video - Moon Transmissions e.p. ( Close view of RIMA HADLEY 2009) HD - YouTube


Tall Moon Tower / Mountain / Monolith in the Clavius area. - YouTube

Lunar Moon Crater Copernicus Close up 2009 - YouTube

[skunksmash]

WTF is in the shot with the astronauts..???? :eek:

YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.






:)SK

[dankai]

WTF is in the shot with the astronauts..???? :eek:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=93Mp9zYJQdY&feature=related






:)SK

Quite intriguing at the very least. Looks like something / some being coming into the frame, bending down to pick up an object or place an object on the moon surface.

[asshur]

YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.

wtf is this.. :eek:

[branjo]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fPwzkMOQt-s

wtf is this.. :eek:

Yeah that does look weird, at first it just looks like the edge of a crater but when you look at how much light its getting, it has to be way higher than anything around it.

When ordinary people look at the moon they see all manner of cool anomalies when NASA look at the moon all we see is a boring dusty rock. And we trust these people with the view of the world too, Hmmmmm

N.A.S.A = Never Admit Say Anything.

[macmauro]

I don't know about the authenticy of this, but it haven't been posted here I think..

http://img19.picoodle.com/img/img19/3/4/6/kennet/f_moonbasem_9c17bf1.jpg

Of course it can be a fake picture,but the shape of the "base" remind me of this:

http://www.symbols.com/encyclopedia/17/178.html

and this symbols in the plates and crop circle:

http://www.disclose.tv/action/viewvideo/12171/

Can this be related to the same alphabet?? Can this "alphabet" somehow be related to Saturn, just think Saturn in itself it's like a mini Solar system and there is plenty of evidence of strange unusual objects orbiting that planet. Maybe Saturn it's more than a giant ball of gas ;)

If you were an intergalatic traveller which one is the planet that atracts your attention?:

http://www.universetoday.com/guide-to-space/the-solar-system/solar-system-pictures/

[venividivici2311]

Quite intriguing at the very least. Looks like something / some being coming into the frame, bending down to pick up an object or place an object on the moon surface.

Its not the moon surface,its the set surface ;)

Its just a man who walks on set and picks something up,in slow motion.
I just goes to show that nasa faked it simply by slow mo everything.

[chattanova]

Its not the moon surface,its the set surface ;)

Its just a man who walks on set and picks something up,in slow motion.
I just goes to show that nasa faked it simply by slow mo everything.

Yes, I was just going to say that. I think it's a thread somewhere(here) on it.

[coco]

WTF is in the shot with the astronauts..???? :eek:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=93Mp9zYJQdY&feature=related






:)SK

Reactions:

1. What the ?!?

2. My American kicked in: Must be some modern camera trickery meant to gain brief fame. Dismissed.

3. My Coco kicked in: Not dismissed. WT?!? That looks like some guy who just walked into shot! But how could that be allowed IF the walking on the moon thing was faked?? IF it was faked how could such clumsiness be permitted?

Conclusion: My jury is out and I'm damned intrigued.

Thanks SK! :)

[macmauro]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fPwzkMOQt-s

wtf is this.. :eek:

Aren't those films from John Lenard Walson?

all of them are here:

http://www.youtube.com/user/GRIDKEEPER

Luv this thread :D

[chattanova]

Its not the moon surface,its the set surface ;)

....just goes to show that nasa faked it simply by slow mo everything.

To make it look like the moon's gravity (1/2 or 1/3 of earth gravity)
It's embarrasing how they play with our intellegence ..those fucks:mad:

[chattanova]

I've posted these in my moon week thread and thought some of you may like to see them here, cheers.
This one shows the Rima Hadley area.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Hl8qu44oWM


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0h88mYixiA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AYa1LyVWiaQ

That is one mean telescope man;)
Another great video compilation, I love your team's videos.


Keep up the good work.

[chattanova]

Mysterious X appearing on the Moon

http://img28.picoodle.com/img/img28/2/5/5/kennet/f_wwwnettavism_f0b03dc.jpg

It could been seen 1st May, but is a shadow-phenomenon that can be seen every month when there's a sun rise above the 'Werner-crater', the sunbeams are lighten the area up so there's clearly a X visible to be seen.
Next time this will be visible is 31th may 2009.

http://www.nettavisen.no/dagensbilde/article2617480.ece

[777equals666]

Mysterious X appearing on the Moon

http://img28.picoodle.com/img/img28/2/5/5/kennet/f_wwwnettavism_f0b03dc.jpg

It could been seen 1st May, but is a shadow-phenomenon that can be seen every month when there's a sun rise above the 'Werner-crater', the sunbeams are lighten the area up so there's clearly a X visible to be seen.
Next time this will be visible is 31th may 2009.

http://www.nettavisen.no/dagensbilde/article2617480.ece

Wow, how interesting chattanova. I didn't know of this phenomenon until you brought it up. Thanks!
Btw, February 1865 was the only time in recorded history were we didn't have a full moon.

[chattanova]

Wow, how interesting chattanova. I didn't know of this phenomenon until you brought it up. Thanks!
Btw, February 1865 was the only time in recorded history were we didn't have a full moon.

Cool, and that fact is totally new to me and probably most of us so kudos for sharing :)

[venividivici2311]

Stole this from indigo's post in the news section,i hope you don't mind :D

http://thecrit.com/2009/05/05/200000...found-on-moon/

Pretty amazing!

[chattanova]

Stole this from indigo's post in the news section,i hope you don't mind :D

http://thecrit.com/2009/05/05/200000...found-on-moon/

Pretty amazing!

I gets this message venividi:(

Not Found, Error 404

The page you are looking for no longer exists. Perhaps you can find what you are looking for by searching the site archives by page, month, or category:

[chattanova]

I gets this message venividi:(

wow - found it! This is wild stuff!
If this doesn't hit the world news an Invasion wouldn't either :eek:
(I know it doesn't work like that but u know what I mean;))

200,000 Year Old Statue Found On Moon

http://img28.picoodle.com/img/img28/2/5/6/kennet/f_moonstatuem_506bb1e.jpg

WASHINGTON, DC - A noted scientist has just produced proof that the lunar surface was inhabited by intelligent life: a 10-inch angel sculpture embedded in a moon rock.

Geologist Dr. Morris Charles revealed last week that NASA lab workers chipped the angel from one of the rocks brought to Earth by Apollo 11 astronauts 40 years ago, in 1969. Dr. Charles was a NASA scientist himself for 23 years but left the agency in 1987. He still maintains close ties to many of his former colleagues.

“The implications of this figurine are absolutely mind-boggling,” Dr. Charles told reporters. “It means that at one time the moon had an atmosphere conducive to life. And what’s more, it was once home to a sophisticated race of people with a highly refined sense of beauty.”

The angel - a humanoid female with wing-like appendages on her back and long flowing hair - is made of an iron compound found exclusively in the highlands of the moon.

This rules out the possibility that it was dropped by a race of aliens from another planet. It’s been hand polished to a silvery metallic sheen. Based on chemical analysis of the metal, geologists estimate the sculpture to be 200,000 years old which means it was made 170,000 years before the human species appeared on Earth.

It’s been examined by art experts who concur with Dr. Charles’ appraisal of the culture that produced it. “Clearly these beings had a sense of religion that parallels our Christianity. Perhaps they had a Jesus of their own, proving that the important spiritual principles are, in a very literal sense, universal,” said a Washington anthropologist.

Others are not so sure of its religious significance. Dr. Miles Fredericks of New York University countered, “This is just more Christian propaganda. The Sumerians told stories of the Annunaki, winged deities, as far back as 18th century BC. Maybe the Sumerians were visited by these moon beings, who merely modeled the statue after their own image.”

While many ponder the significance of the figure, others are curious about why it has remained a secret for so long. “The artifact has been common knowledge among NASA insiders for years,” said Dr. Charles. “But space agency higher-ups have kept the information highly classified, fearing world-wide panic. It was smuggled out to me by persons who must, for obvious reasons, remain anonymous.”

NASA officially denies Dr. Charles’ allegations. The statue was displayed to photographers and newsmen but is now being held for further study at an undisclosed location.

Astronauts of Antiquity - Zecharia Sitchin has already shown in The Twelfth Planet that the statues of gods and goddesses from Sumer present special helmets with protuberances on both sides (the Middle Ages’s illiteracy turned them into”devil horns”), which perfectly look like the pilots’ headphones; the statues were provided with the SHU.GAR.RA - a term that literally means”that which makes you go far into the Universe”.

Another image discovered in North Israel, dating back to the ninth millennium B.C., represents the sculpted head of a god with a helmet and safety glasses. Also a picture of the goddess Ishtar from her temple in Sumer…

All this suggests to us that the attire …was that of an aeronaut or an astronaut”…

Sumer

Many drawings on the Sumerian plates show the gods with wings, which were not belonging to the body, but they were accessories of the flight suit, therfore the gods looked like eagles…
This drawing on a Sumerian plate suggests that an Anunnaki / Elohim spaceship is connected to the base on Earth.”The central object … it is more mechanical, more manufactured than natural.Its (( wings )) looks almost exactly like the solar panels which American spacecraft are provided to convert the Sun’s energy to electricity. The two antennas cannot be mistaken. The circular craft … is located between Mars (the six - pointed star) and Earth and its Moon”(Z. Sitchin, The Twelfth Planet)…

http://thecrit.com/2009/05/05/200000-year-old-statue-found-on-moon/

[pandamania]

"The Light from the Moon is NOT a reflection of the Suns rays"



Interesting.

You know the surface the moon is nearly pitch black. Lunar soil has an Abedo 0.22 which means it is about as light reflective as a newly laid tarmaced road.

Have you ever seen a tarmaced road reflect bright light?

Just one more thing about the moon which makes it so curious.

[branjo]

:eek:

If it is genuine I just hope religion doesn't get its grubby paws on it.

It reminds me of how the fairies are depicted.

Lets just see what the armies of debunkers say about it now, bless em...lol

Excellent find Chattanova.

[chattanova]

:eek:

If it is genuine I just hope religion doesn't get its grubby paws on it.

It reminds me of how the fairies are depicted.

Lets just see what the armies of debunkers say about it now, bless em...lol

Excellent find Chattanova.

That is true branjo, it might become a rat race there.
Anyway I starts getting some doubts about it's autenticy if there's not soon appearing more photos of it.
On the picture it seems almost like a little press conference so there better soon be popping up new articles..

[jp13]

WTF is in the shot with the astronauts..???? :eek:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=93Mp9zYJQdY&feature=related




:)SKIt looks like an Ant eater:eek:

[branjo]

It looks like it hauls ass into the horizon, its blurred out but to me anyway it seems to be moving unnaturally fast at around 3:01 + or is that just a film fault?

It could be that if it is in slow mo just to make us think its the moon (which I don't think is the case, as its not the speed, but the action of gravity that gets me) then the speed would make sense.

But as Hoagland said, they would rather we think the whole thing was hoaxed than have to explain that there was proof of other races being there long before us, which would be far more demoralizing for them and extremely empowering for the general public and hence way harder to maintain control.

He tells us in his book Dark Mission that I am reading now that when they were all waiting for the first media contact with the Astronauts on the flight home that someone from JPL (Jet Propulsion Labs) was handing out press packages saying that the moon landings where being faked "real Time" in Nevada.

Hoagland said he received a small wallet sized Mylar US Flag in silver and gold that was in the press package plus the docs saying it was a hoax, He said that the Mylar flag was so cool looking that he couldn't throw it away so he kept it, and that this was a mental reminder for the press to slowly inject into there criticisms of NASA at a later date that the landing was a hoax. A sort of memory clamp to what was in the documents.

Think about it, if you knew something that would completely change the world forever and remove your control over the people you rule. Then instead of explaining that, it would be better to just say you lied about the whole thing, someone goes to jail and case closed.

Reading "Dark Mission" is absolutely amazing, Those JPL guys need a swift kick in the groin for what they have done throughout the 50 years of NASA. They sabotaged the MARS Rover by smearing something like vaseline on the camera lens so the pics would never be seen, only a tech noticed trash near the booster rockets after hurricane Andrew so they had to recheck everything was clean and they though they would double check the Rover too and they found it had been tampered with. Else we would not have had the shots today of weird Mars anomalies.

Any of you guys read Dark Mission by any chance?

[thefallguy]

Thanks Chattanova, check out this video of the Apollo 15 landing site. best watched in HQ. Look at the shadows at the first and second half of the video and note how different the area looks in each one. The second picture with the long shadows is rarely obtained by astronomers.

Thirteen - Gridkeeper (audio) - (video) Apollo 15 moon Landing Site 2009 - YouTube

[who elsie]

wow - found it! This is wild stuff!
If this doesn't hit the world news an Invasion wouldn't either :eek:
(I know it doesn't work like that but u know what I mean;))

200,000 Year Old Statue Found On Moon

Is that for real?! I saw it on David Icke's headline page, but it just seems too good to be true. Yes, you'd think if it was true it MUST be a major world news headline. So why isn't it? Strange!

[chattanova]

Ufo's Coming out of Crater on Moon

This looks just weird, I doubt there are a UFO connection but it really looks it is coming out of the crater..
anyway bizarre enough to be worth the watch :) (40 sec. mark..)

More Ufo's Coming out of Crater on Moon - Video

[jamesc]

wow - found it! This is wild stuff!
If this doesn't hit the world news an Invasion wouldn't either :eek:
(I know it doesn't work like that but u know what I mean;))

200,000 Year Old Statue Found On Moon





"I wonder why there seems to be no such person as Dr. Miles Fredericks of New York University.

"I wonder why there seems to be no such person as Dr. Morris Charles".


Apparently this was raised by one person on the link that you provided in the reply section.Is his claims that they do not exist valid and if so could it be a disinformation trick by the powers at be at NASA.??

[chattanova]

"I wonder why there seems to be no such person as Dr. Miles Fredericks of New York University.

"I wonder why there seems to be no such person as Dr. Morris Charles".


Apparently this was raised by one person on the link that you provided in the reply section.Is his claims that they do not exist valid and if so could it be a disinformation trick by the powers at be at NASA.??

The whole thing must be BS. It can't be that there's just one picture circulating the web when as we see in the picture there is a press conference going on.
There should be loads of differen pics to be showed from different articles.
Also if this were a fact Obama should have held a press conference on it.

[branjo]

The whole thing must be BS. It can't be that there's just one picture circulating the web when as we see in the picture there is a press conference going on.
There should be loads of differen pics to be showed from different articles.
Also if this were a fact Obama should have held a press conference on it.

Yeah there doesn't seem to be much on it at all really. Wishful thinking maybe, but it is serving a purpose if even in jest, that people will be looking at the moon differently. Maybe its the start of further disclosure soon to come. The release of certain UFO files by countries could be a setup for another false flag/Alien thing of course or it could be the introduction to a chain of events where full disclosure is possible.

I remember reading about the huge skeletons found in archeological digs were said to be a college experiment to make a dig look realistic, once they hit the net it started the huge nephlim debate, either way it started the ball rolling for people to read and learn about something they would have otherwise not came into contact with.

Its pretty interesting to see the reactions of people when they are presented with even the possibility of life elsewhere. For a second or two it was quite exhilarating thought to think it was real, maybe that is the important part.

I remain optimistic but not convinced just yet.

[chattanova]

Yeah there doesn't seem to be much on it at all really. Wishful thinking maybe, but it is serving a purpose if even in jest, that people will be looking at the moon differently. Maybe its the start of further disclosure soon to come. The release of certain UFO files by countries could be a setup for another false flag/Alien thing of course or it could be the introduction to a chain of events where full disclosure is possible.

I remember reading about the huge skeletons found in archeological digs were said to be a college experiment to make a dig look realistic, once they hit the net it started the huge nephlim debate, either way it started the ball rolling for people to read and learn about something they would have otherwise not came into contact with.

Its pretty interesting to see the reactions of people when they are presented with even the possibility of life elsewhere. For a second or two it was quite exhilarating thought to think it was real, maybe that is the important part.

I remain optimistic but not convinced just yet.

Good points branjo, and anyway whats the truth behind this statue-story we for sure know there is a whole lot of other bizarre stuff going on at the moon.

[oddblock]

That statue looks photoshopped to me :(

Very awkward in her hand... Seems to have a white outline and is just a skewed copy of the inset picture, which doesn't look real at all. It's a shame really, would have been pretty awesome! But until I see more evidence I'm gonna have to pass on it!

[chattanova]

Lots of Ufo's Filmed Close to Moon's Surface ?


Tons of Ufo's Going by Moon - Video

http://www.metacafe.com/watch/2855083/tons_of_ufos_going_by_moon/

[branjo]

JAXA/KAGUYA Earth-Rise and Earth-Set image over the moon - YouTube

Awesome Earth rise video

[diky]

wow - found it! This is wild stuff!
If this doesn't hit the world news an Invasion wouldn't either :eek:
(I know it doesn't work like that but u know what I mean;))

200,000 Year Old Statue Found On Moon

anyone who believes this is a fucking moron

absolutely astounding what some people will believe.......truly this forum is a laughing stock

[shodan]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EkHuRRDshhgAwesome Earth rise video

wow thats amazing. This comment below really got me thinking too

when you look at these two objects you ask yourself why is the moon all fucked up and dead while next to it is earth full of life, very strange.

[branjo]

anyone who believes this is a fucking moron

absolutely astounding what some people will believe.......truly this forum is a laughing stock

This is why we look at all possibilities no matter how strange, to determine for ourselves whats real and whats not.


Anyone who makes a statement like yours fully in hindsight is what is moronic. It also feeds the sarcasm for not investigating anything than seems out of the ordinary.

People who thought the world was flat probably said the same things to those that thought otherwise. People who scowl at the thought of prior civilizations that were far more advanced than ours only have to look at structures built before the first writings of the Sumerians.

If we don't take everything and scrutinize it fully then we become a population of dumbed down versions of ourselves that smirk at the slightest thing that should warrant more investigation only to be transformed into people who love nothing better than to say "I told you so" and expect gratitude for it.

The entire alternative to mainstream thinking is a laughing stock, this is how those that hold the power keep us from rising up through the shit and seeing the truth for ourselves without someone constantly telling us not to bother, because they know best.

I'd rather look at everything from an unbiased perspective than to ridicule it from a perspective that is not my own.

Everything needs investigating equally no matter how unlikely.

[diky]

This is why we look at all possibilities no matter how strange, to determine for ourselves whats real and whats not.


Anyone who makes a statement like yours fully in hindsight is what is moronic. It also feeds the sarcasm for not investigating anything than seems out of the ordinary.

People who thought the world was flat probably said the same things to those that thought otherwise. People who scowl at the thought of prior civilizations that were far more advanced than ours only have to look at structures built before the first writings of the Sumerians.

If we don't take everything and scrutinize it fully then we become a population of dumbed down versions of ourselves that smirk at the slightest thing that should warrant more investigation only to be transformed into people who love nothing better than to say "I told you so" and expect gratitude for it.

The entire alternative to mainstream thinking is a laughing stock, this is how those that hold the power keep us from rising up through the shit and seeing the truth for ourselves without someone constantly telling us not to bother, because they know best.

I'd rather look at everything from an unbiased perspective than to ridicule it from a perspective that is not my own.

Everything needs investigating equally no matter how unlikely.

I agree with the principle of what you are saying, but to give any credence to this story when even a cursory look shows it to be complete bollocks, is not helpful

Giving any time to this sort of rubbish makes it very easy for people to lump more credible outlandish ideas together and write them all off, whether you like it or not

IMHO a more discerning approach would be a lot more productive

[shodan]

I agree with the principle of what you are saying, but to give any credence to this story when even a cursory look shows it to be complete bollocks, is not helpful

Giving any time to this sort of rubbish makes it very easy for people to lump more credible outlandish ideas together and write them all off, whether you like it or not

IMHO a more discerning approach would be a lot more productive

lets say its total bollocks, what is the ultimate aim of feeding the public a story like this? are they conditioning/preparing us for something further down the line?, thats why its important to discuss articles like this imo.

[diky]

lets say its total bollocks, what is the ultimate aim of feeding the public a story like this? are they conditioning/preparing us for something further down the line?, thats why its important to discuss articles like this imo.

they being weeklyworldnews.com ?

to be honest i don't think they expect most people to take it seriously

maybe we should devote some more time researching these:

http://weeklyworldnews.com/alien-alert/8081/star-trek-spoilers/

http://weeklyworldnews.com/alien-alert/8030/6-signs-your-doctor-is-an-alien/

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0094012/

[chattanova]

Nasa prepares to bomb the moon

Nasa scientists are preparing to launch a space mission from Cape Canaveral carrying a missile that will fire a hole deep in the surface of the moon.

video http://www.telegraph.co.uk/scienceandtechnology/science/space/5566137/Nasa-prepares-to-bomb-the-moon.html

The aim is to see whether any traces of water will be revealed by the disruption caused to the planet's surface. Nasa will analyse the space cloud caused by the explosion for any sign of water or vapour.

Scientists expect the impact to blast out a huge cloud of dust, gas and vaporized water ice at least 6 miles high - making it visible from Earth.

If the search is successful it could provide vital supplies for a moonbase. The moon is mostly dry desert but ice may be trapped in craters which never see sunlight.

The unmanned Lunar Crater Observation and Sensing Satellite mission (LCROSS) will fire a Centaur rocket into the surface at twice the speed of a bullet.

An accompanying spacecraft will orbit the moon for a year looking for possible landing sites for astronauts. The Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter will spend at least a year creating the most minutely detailed map of the moon's surface ever seen.

The vessel swill be the first American spacecrafts to make a lunar trip since 1999.

Astronomers have long thought that a rain of comets brought water to the arid, lifeless moon over billions of years.

In the past few years, at least two American spacecraft reported the presence of water by detecting hints of hydrogen and oxygen - the constituents of water - frozen deep in the darkest recesses of craters around both the north and south lunar poles.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/scienceandtechnology/science/space/5566137/Nasa-prepares-to-bomb-the-moon.html

[branjo]

I have to say above all else that NASA do this annoys the absolute shit out of me. What do they hope to achieve by this?. I mean its not exactly a manned mission to Mars to which I wouldn't mind paying the taxes for that, I would see that as progress for our species. But does this not seem like the biggest waste of time and resources for the reason they give for doing it, I just can't fathom it at all.

To me firing a rocket into the moon seems so ludicrous of a thing to do, if its in search of water what use would it be to us if indeed we find it, its not like we don't have enough here on earth, what if they are trying to cover something up, by blowing something up? Could it be an interplanetary weapon? just the next phase for the weaponisation of space? I mean they just tested that one that can shoot down a satellite, is this the next phase?

Questions, questions, questions none of which will get the time of day let alone be attempted to be answered, but then that could be NASA'a slogan

Never A Simple Answer

[gripit]

To me firing a rocket into the moon seems so ludicrous of a thing to do, if its in search of water what use would it be to us if indeed we find it, its not like we don't have enough here on earth, what if they are trying to cover something up, by blowing something up?



Agreed. Zero chance they are looking for water...WATER, ya right! :rolleyes:

[mind1universe]

LMFAO looking for water my hole.


What gullable fool would believe that bullshit. There's fucking water on the moon. Who cares.....

NASA is such a joke, its just not funny at this rate. It really is sick and dumb.

[mind1universe]

NASA sends a probe to the moon to find some rocka....lol......:D


Who do they thnk they are foolling.

[jamesc]

NASA Moon Bombing
Is Cause For Worry
By Ted Twietmeyer
6-22-9

What's NASA up to now? The closer we look at this mad science experiment, the more we can see a bigger, hidden ugly picture.

Our Moon is extremely important to our Earth and our survival. It acts as a flywheel/stabilizer for Earth's non-spherical shape. Simulations show that without the Moon oceans would become dead zones. Tides would no longer ebb and flow, which are vital to numerous forms of life world wide. Many sea turtles, crabs and other animals rely on tides for their survival. This ties directly into our food chain, too.

Apollo missions forty years ago left retro-reflective mirrors on the Moon, to measure its distance relative to Earth. Lasers send out a precisely timed pulse, and can measure the distance to within a fraction of an inch.

Now the National Science Foundation is going to cut funding for the McDonald laser ranging station at Ft. Davis, Texas. [1] We hear of millions to billions of dollars being pissed away by pork barrel projects. And "National Science Foundation" kills this project that consumes a paltry $125,000/year?

Something is very wrong here.

If NASA wanted to continue the project, which they should be doing, they could tell the NSF not to cancel this project. But apparently NASA is remaining silent. Just as they have remained silent about numerous Mars discoveries being made by the ESA Mars mission.

Like many people, I've been quietly watching the Not Always Science Agency. And this latest uncle-axe-job comes about at a very unusual time.

In just a few months, NASA will EXPLODE a TWO TON bomb on the Moon. They claim this is in the interest of paving the way for colonization, and "to find water." Now this is where the NASA nonsense piles up into an ugly heap, like bed sheet wrinkles on a bed made by a 4 year old.

So what's the problem? Here are just a few of the facts that come to light:

1. Exploding a bomb on the moon will displace several miles of Lunar material according to what NASA claims will happen.

2. The displacement of lunar material will follow Newton's law about equal and opposite reaction. This means that an equal force will be exerted on the Moon to match the force it takes to eject miles of material. No one can actually predict what will happen, just as NASA failed miserably predicting the results of another experiment. In a previous mission, a NASA spacecraft fired a high velocity copper warhead penetrator into a comet's core. The results were not what they expected. This is because popular science theory really believes comets are dirty snowballs. Instead, the actual results were already predicted by the electric universe theory. Comets are not dirty snowballs which is something many of us already knew. Yet again, NASA refused to use common sense and look at theories based on real evidence and science, such as the electric universe theory.

3. If the McDonald Moon ranging project is cancelled, no one will be able to measure the displacement of the Moon caused by the explosion. Perhaps this is the idea by cancelling the project.

4. Exploding a bomb on the Moon is against all international laws and treaties. NASA doesn't own the Moon and they never will, and as such have no right to instigate such madness. This madness is on a par with the utterly insane space elevator.

5. Last but not least is the water issue. This is one follows yet another big lie. Almost every book about our solar system claims it is nearly a perfect vacuum. So how does water behave when exposed to a reduced atmosphere? The speed it evaporates (sublimates) is in proportion to the amount of atmosphere present. If a window blows out of a plane at 50,000 ft. water and blood will boil. And that's not even in a very good vacuum.

And here's what it all comes down to water disappears completely in a vacuum. Therefore, the idea of NASA finding water on the Moon by exploding a bomb in a vacuum on the Moon is utterly ridiculous. Heat from the bomb combined with the vacuum will flash-evaporate any trace water so fast it cannot not be measured. No two ton bomb has ever exploded without generating tremendous heat, and this heat will blind infrared sensors. Long before the sub-lunar surface cools off to take a reading, any water will be long gone. So the idea of using a bomb to find water is wrong on many levels.

There also remains an even bigger and more important question what happens if they disturb the Moon's orbit? Few people alive today remember what NASA said when the spent Lunar Landers were ejected and crashed into the Moon. NASA stated that the seismograph instruments the Apollo crew left behind showed that after a Lunar Lander crashed into the Moon, that it "made the Moon ring like a bell for more than 30 minutes." Would this same thing happen if the Moon were made of solid rock?

The Lunar Lander ascent stage weighed just 10,334kg. which is about the equivalent weight of an 11 ton truck.

The mass of the Moon has been calculated to be 7.36 1022 kilograms. That's a 7.36 followed by 22 zeroes.

So how could an 11 ton spacecraft, which weighs even less on the Moon because gravity is 1/6 that of Earth - make 7,360,000,000,000,000,000,000 kilograms of rock ring for half an hour? Who could believe this?

This appears to strongly prove the Moon MUST be hollow. And if the Moon is actually hollow, it will take far less to disturb its orbit than anyone currently realizes. How many millions of kilograms of force will bombing the Moon generate? We are not being told that figure.

Disturbing the Moon's orbit may cause tidal waves and quite possibly Earthquakes in many zones around the Earth where edges of tectonic plates are already at or near the breaking point of sliding. The stress caused by a sudden shift in the Moon's gravitational pull could be a serious catastrophe. Who knows what it might do to the Yellowstonesuper-volcano which is already heating up and has made larger areas of Yellowstone park unusable.

And if the NASA experiment goes badly wrong (like most NASA projects do the first time NASA tries them) what do they think countries of the world will do? Send a bill to theUSA for damages? Perhaps NASA will do what they usually do. Lie their way out of the problem.
There are several things everyone can do to stop this:

1. Tell NSF they CANNOT cancel the $125k/year McDonald project. Let them cut funding some other useless project, not one as valuable as this project has suddenly become. It is too important to our entire Earth and it can act as a safeguard. Tell NSF the McDonald project should also make measurement data accessible to the public in real time on the internet.

2. Tell NASA they CANNOT even think about Moon bombing until the Moon's mass and interior is better understood, and the Moon is proven to be completely solid and not hollow.

3. The new upcoming Moon mission(s) can be used to acquire new and more accurate data about the Moon and its interior by performing a seismographic survey of the Moon. Such surveys are routinely used by oil companies to prevent mistakes. NASA should swallow their pride and take a lesson from established oil exploration technology that has been used on Earth for about 100 years.
People DO make a difference. There was an attempt by NASA to decommission Hubble a few years ago, but such an outcry sprang up that the telescope's mission was extended several years.
Enough people screaming and yelling will make a difference and stop this project before something bad and irreversible happens. All the evidence and data points to this happening as a real possiblity.
Is bombing the Moon really worth risking orbital stability, killer Earthquakes and the futures of countless life-forms on Earth?

Or creating an irreversible disaster?

Ted Twietmeyer
tedtw@frontiernet.net
www.data4science.net

[1] - http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2009/jun/21/mcdonald-observatory-space-laser-funding


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[hank_scorpio]

This should test out the theories of the hollow earth/moon lol

[branjo]

NASA Moon Bombing
Is Cause For Worry
By Ted Twietmeyer
6-22-9

What's NASA up to now? The closer we look at this mad science experiment, the more we can see a bigger, hidden ugly picture.

Our Moon is extremely important to our Earth and our survival. It acts as a flywheel/stabilizer for Earth's non-spherical shape. Simulations show that without the Moon oceans would become dead zones. Tides would no longer ebb and flow, which are vital to numerous forms of life world wide. Many sea turtles, crabs and other animals rely on tides for their survival. This ties directly into our food chain, too.

Apollo missions forty years ago left retro-reflective mirrors on the Moon, to measure its distance relative to Earth. Lasers send out a precisely timed pulse, and can measure the distance to within a fraction of an inch.

Now the National Science Foundation is going to cut funding for the McDonald laser ranging station at Ft. Davis, Texas. [1] We hear of millions to billions of dollars being pissed away by pork barrel projects. And "National Science Foundation" kills this project that consumes a paltry $125,000/year?

Something is very wrong here.

If NASA wanted to continue the project, which they should be doing, they could tell the NSF not to cancel this project. But apparently NASA is remaining silent. Just as they have remained silent about numerous Mars discoveries being made by the ESA Mars mission.

Like many people, I've been quietly watching the Not Always Science Agency. And this latest uncle-axe-job comes about at a very unusual time.

In just a few months, NASA will EXPLODE a TWO TON bomb on the Moon. They claim this is in the interest of paving the way for colonization, and "to find water." Now this is where the NASA nonsense piles up into an ugly heap, like bed sheet wrinkles on a bed made by a 4 year old.

So what's the problem? Here are just a few of the facts that come to light:

1. Exploding a bomb on the moon will displace several miles of Lunar material according to what NASA claims will happen.

2. The displacement of lunar material will follow Newton's law about equal and opposite reaction. This means that an equal force will be exerted on the Moon to match the force it takes to eject miles of material. No one can actually predict what will happen, just as NASA failed miserably predicting the results of another experiment. In a previous mission, a NASA spacecraft fired a high velocity copper warhead penetrator into a comet's core. The results were not what they expected. This is because popular science theory really believes comets are dirty snowballs. Instead, the actual results were already predicted by the electric universe theory. Comets are not dirty snowballs which is something many of us already knew. Yet again, NASA refused to use common sense and look at theories based on real evidence and science, such as the electric universe theory.

3. If the McDonald Moon ranging project is cancelled, no one will be able to measure the displacement of the Moon caused by the explosion. Perhaps this is the idea by cancelling the project.

4. Exploding a bomb on the Moon is against all international laws and treaties. NASA doesn't own the Moon and they never will, and as such have no right to instigate such madness. This madness is on a par with the utterly insane space elevator.

5. Last but not least is the water issue. This is one follows yet another big lie. Almost every book about our solar system claims it is nearly a perfect vacuum. So how does water behave when exposed to a reduced atmosphere? The speed it evaporates (sublimates) is in proportion to the amount of atmosphere present. If a window blows out of a plane at 50,000 ft. water and blood will boil. And that's not even in a very good vacuum.

And here's what it all comes down to water disappears completely in a vacuum. Therefore, the idea of NASA finding water on the Moon by exploding a bomb in a vacuum on the Moon is utterly ridiculous. Heat from the bomb combined with the vacuum will flash-evaporate any trace water so fast it cannot not be measured. No two ton bomb has ever exploded without generating tremendous heat, and this heat will blind infrared sensors. Long before the sub-lunar surface cools off to take a reading, any water will be long gone. So the idea of using a bomb to find water is wrong on many levels.

There also remains an even bigger and more important question what happens if they disturb the Moon's orbit? Few people alive today remember what NASA said when the spent Lunar Landers were ejected and crashed into the Moon. NASA stated that the seismograph instruments the Apollo crew left behind showed that after a Lunar Lander crashed into the Moon, that it "made the Moon ring like a bell for more than 30 minutes." Would this same thing happen if the Moon were made of solid rock?

The Lunar Lander ascent stage weighed just 10,334kg. which is about the equivalent weight of an 11 ton truck.

The mass of the Moon has been calculated to be 7.36 1022 kilograms. That's a 7.36 followed by 22 zeroes.

So how could an 11 ton spacecraft, which weighs even less on the Moon because gravity is 1/6 that of Earth - make 7,360,000,000,000,000,000,000 kilograms of rock ring for half an hour? Who could believe this?

This appears to strongly prove the Moon MUST be hollow. And if the Moon is actually hollow, it will take far less to disturb its orbit than anyone currently realizes. How many millions of kilograms of force will bombing the Moon generate? We are not being told that figure.

Disturbing the Moon's orbit may cause tidal waves and quite possibly Earthquakes in many zones around the Earth where edges of tectonic plates are already at or near the breaking point of sliding. The stress caused by a sudden shift in the Moon's gravitational pull could be a serious catastrophe. Who knows what it might do to the Yellowstonesuper-volcano which is already heating up and has made larger areas of Yellowstone park unusable.

And if the NASA experiment goes badly wrong (like most NASA projects do the first time NASA tries them) what do they think countries of the world will do? Send a bill to theUSA for damages? Perhaps NASA will do what they usually do. Lie their way out of the problem.
There are several things everyone can do to stop this:

1. Tell NSF they CANNOT cancel the $125k/year McDonald project. Let them cut funding some other useless project, not one as valuable as this project has suddenly become. It is too important to our entire Earth and it can act as a safeguard. Tell NSF the McDonald project should also make measurement data accessible to the public in real time on the internet.

2. Tell NASA they CANNOT even think about Moon bombing until the Moon's mass and interior is better understood, and the Moon is proven to be completely solid and not hollow.

3. The new upcoming Moon mission(s) can be used to acquire new and more accurate data about the Moon and its interior by performing a seismographic survey of the Moon. Such surveys are routinely used by oil companies to prevent mistakes. NASA should swallow their pride and take a lesson from established oil exploration technology that has been used on Earth for about 100 years.
People DO make a difference. There was an attempt by NASA to decommission Hubble a few years ago, but such an outcry sprang up that the telescope's mission was extended several years.
Enough people screaming and yelling will make a difference and stop this project before something bad and irreversible happens. All the evidence and data points to this happening as a real possiblity.
Is bombing the Moon really worth risking orbital stability, killer Earthquakes and the futures of countless life-forms on Earth?

Or creating an irreversible disaster?

Ted Twietmeyer
tedtw@frontiernet.net
www.data4science.net

[1] - http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2009/jun/21/mcdonald-observatory-space-laser-funding


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Fantastic Post Jamesc, I agree with every word.

"Not Always Science Agency" very bloody true.

I had not heard about the moon "ringing like a bell for 30 minutes" after that small impact before. If they don't crack the damn thing it could shake itself to bits and then we're all f****d, man this just gets more unbelievable the more I hear.

Just as you said, who the hell do NASA think they are bombing the moon, your 100% right its not friggin theirs its all ours. I wouldn't put it past them and their Jesuit/Nazi handlers to be trying to bring about some form of planetary disaster here on Earth so they can give some form of dumb apology and then offer a way around it in the form of a huge blank check from every nation on the globe.

You know what, I really hope Richard Hoagland is right and the moon is artificial and the property of some distant extremely advanced civilization, and when or should I say "if" NASA actually do this, they comeback and tear them a new asshole for messing with their stuff.

This is no different to the time they tested the atomic bomb, they had no freaking idea what would happen then and they have no freaking idea what will happen now.

Utter insanity.

[moondancer]

Ted Twietmeyer article is good.. the first few lines though.. who knows anymore :( does it control the tides etc.. ?

I know I get a vibe from the moon.. and its a feel good vibe.. so unless the day comes where i really have to stop loving it.. then I wont :p

Does anyone know when this is supposed to be happening? Ive not read all the other thread on it

Many moon vibes to you all ;):p x

[gripit]

Ted Twietmeyer article is good.. the first few lines though.. who knows anymore :( does it control the tides etc.. ?

I know I get a vibe from the moon.. and its a feel good vibe.. so unless the day comes where i really have to stop loving it.. then I wont :p

Does anyone know when this is supposed to be happening? Ive not read all the other thread on it

Many moon vibes to you all ;):p x

Oct 9th I believe?

Maybe bombing the moon will make people go bonkers and start howling??!!

[moondancer]

Oct 9th I believe?

Maybe bombing the moon will make people go bonkers and start howling??!!

thanks :)

:eek: maybe it would shift our dna and turn us into those fast as fook zombies :eek:

just stop it.. :p

although, i do know that a full moon does create some behaviour changes in some people with psychiatric problems.. or maybe they were just normal people...:confused: who knows... but is it only because we've been told that..

wonder if they will go ahead and really bomb the moon.. even as i type it, i laugh.. how stupid does it sound, really.?.:rolleyes: strange days

[gripit]

thanks :)

:eek: maybe it would shift our dna and turn us into those fast as fook zombies :eek:

although, i do know that a full moon does create some behaviour changes in some people with psychiatric problems.. or maybe they were just normal people...:confused: who knows... but is it only because we've been told that..

wonder if they will go ahead and really bomb the moon.. even as i type it, i laugh.. how stupid does it sound, really.?.:rolleyes: strange days

...or even worse, reverse zombie wearwolfs!! :eek: :)

Well, the Moon (Menstrual) cycle is every 28 days. There should be 13 months in the calendar year. I would guess the moon affects our behaviour in at least some way. Hmm...

NASA is spending a rumored 1/2 billion dollars to bomb the Moon...looking for water...and us 'truth seekers' are the nutjobs?! Defies logic :confused::confused:

[decim]

This impactor is travelling at approximately 5600mph.

The Moon is 250,000 miles from Earth.

It should take the "spacecraft" around 47 hours to cover that distance.

Why then, is it scheduled to impact in 3 months time?

[elton]

This impactor is travelling at approximately 5600mph.

The Moon is 250,000 miles from Earth.

It should take the "spacecraft" around 47 hours to cover that distance.

Why then, is it scheduled to impact in 3 months time?

I think NASA aimed it wrong and pointed it the wrong way. They pointed it at the sun by mistake? Now they have to turn it round. I hope it doesn't hit the earth by mistake.

[noewhan]

NASA.

Tools.

Who are these scientists? They should be held responsible for anything which goes wrong.

And if they find water, well woot... Focus on Earth.

[chattanova]

Jose Escamilla's 'Moon Rising'

A fantastic documentary on Moon anomalies as glass domes and giants, symbolism in insignias/patches and much more.
The best doc since 'Secret Space' !

Watch it here http://www.niburu.nl/index.php?articleID=21172

[gripit]

Jose Escamilla's 'Moon Rising'

A fantastic documentary on Moon anomalies as glass domes and giants, symbolism in insignias/patches and much more.
The best doc since 'Secret Space' !

Watch it here http://www.niburu.nl/index.php?articleID=21172

Hey chatt! Awesome stuff, eh?

So......why are they planning to bomb the moon again...to find water?! Uh huh...

[chattanova]

So......why are they planning to bomb the moon again...?

:) That was actually my thought through big parts of this film, what is it they have to destroy up there I wonder, seems like they have a pretty huge job ahead if they're planning to erase the artifacts ;)

[gripit]

:) That was actually my thought through big parts of this film, what is it they have to destroy up there I wonder, seems like they have a pretty huge job ahead if they're planning to erase the artifacts ;)

Whatever NASA is doing, they're up to no good! Perhaps we should circle Oct 9th as the next 'doomsday'! :) Actually, there's probably quite a few dates before then ;)

[branjo]

Whatever NASA is doing, they're up to no good! Perhaps we should circle Oct 9th as the next 'doomsday'! :) Actually, there's probably quite a few dates before then ;)

Quite frankly, this could set of a chain of events that could impact Earth very negatively in the not too distant future.

This has to be some sort of weapon test, there is no logical reason why this has to happen now of all times. It seems like the next step from the test they did on blowing up the satellite in orbit, The weaponization of space.

If there is someone observing our species, they are probably saying,

"The one thing that is holding their axis stable so they can survive on that tiny planet and they are shooting rockets at it, talk about biting the hand that feeds you".

[gripit]

Quite frankly, this could set of a chain of events that could impact Earth very negatively in the not too distant future.

This has to be some sort of weapon test, there is no logical reason why this has to happen now of all times. It seems like the next step from the test they did on blowing up the satellite in orbit, The weaponization of space.

If there is someone observing our species, they are probably saying,

"The one thing that is holding their axis stable so they can survive on that tiny planet and they are shooting rockets at it, talk about biting the hand that feeds you".

I totally agree. If the lunar lander crash made the moon 'ring like a bell' for 30 minutes, what the hell is an exploding rocket going to do to it?!...and the Earth!...and us! It's utter madness!!

[venividivici2311]

I totally agree. If the lunar lander crash made the moon 'ring like a bell' for 30 minutes, what the hell is an exploding rocket going to do to it?!...and the Earth!...and us! It's utter madness!!

I imagine it would be like a needle popping a bubble...the rocket being the needle ofcourse....i can't see why any good can come from such nonsense....

[marpat]

NASA sends a probe to the moon to find some rocka....lol......:D


Who do they thnk they are foolling.

But people do research on rocks on earth so why not lunar rocks? maybe they are going to look for stuff that they had not considered years ago or were unable to study because of lack of suitable technological instrument.

Who knows

[deany]

But people do research on rocks on earth so why not lunar rocks? maybe they are going to look for stuff that they had not considered years ago or were unable to study because of lack of suitable technological instrument.

Who knows

that doesn't explain why they need to bomb it though does it?

[solarwindspirit]

Haha! It would explain how recent powerful weather changes could be a result of an operation from the moon...

It's funny but the Moon has only popped into my consciousness over the last couple of years and made me start thinking that when it is HUGE and LOW in the sky- it actually is closer and NOT a 'trick of the Light' as a lot of people say.

Have you ever experienced that? The moon so big it looks merely a few miles away?

It's weird... its going to reveal itself soon as something FAR from what we have been told and led to believe.

Yes, I have. . .and I've seen a hughe luminous moon in front of me that looked like. . .unreal . . .with the reflection of the earth on it. . .certainly not craters or 'holes' but perhaps it's all in the 'mirrors' on the moon.


Sophie Hunger - Leaving the moon - YouTube

[heymang]

Jose Escamilla's 'Moon Rising'

A fantastic documentary on Moon anomalies as glass domes and giants, symbolism in insignias/patches and much more.
The best doc since 'Secret Space' !

Watch it here http://www.niburu.nl/index.php?articleID=21172

Secret Space was less disappointing and more thriller with less filler.

[jamesc]

LRO Latest Image

http://www.nasa.gov/images/content/367314main_cracked_hahn_450.jpg
http://www.nasa.gov/images/content/367307main_cracked_hahn_lg.jpg
Mapping the Moon with the Wide Angle Camera

http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/LRO/multimedia/index.html

javascript:watchNASAOnDemandVideos('http://anon.nasa-global.edgesuite.net/anon.nasa-global/ccvideos/GSFC_20090707_LROfirstflyover.asx','','','','LRO Lunar Flyover','358623main_LRO_crater_100.jpg','199893', '')

WAC images that went into this mosaic were acquired on July 8, 2009. On the bottom left is Hahn crater (approximately 80 km in diameter), with its terraced walls that form as material slumps down the sides and central peak that rebounds from depth during the impact process. A portion of the large impact crater Gauss (170 km in diameter; 35.7 degrees N, 79.0 degrees E) is in the upper right corner. Its floor appears to have been flooded with lava, which solidified and later fractured. The presence of these irregular cracks may be due to the intrusion of magma, which disrupted the crater floor as it rose and eventually stalled beneath the surface. If the material on the floor is due to extrusive volcanism, the color filters of the WAC will help to determine its composition relative to the surrounding terrain. The Narrow Angle Cameras (NACs) will allow us to see small vents and pyroclastic deposits that often occur in similar floor-fractured craters, helping to confirm that these cracks are due to volcanic activity beneath the crater.

Uncalibrated image; north is up; scene is approximately 160 km across and in simple cylindrical projection at 155 m/pixel.

Credit: NASA/GSFC/Arizona State University

http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/LRO/multimedia/index.html


Additional Resources
› LRO Fact Sheet
› LRO Lithograph
› LRO/LCROSS Press Kit


http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/Mini-RF/news/radar_tandem_searches.html

http://www.nasa.gov/home/hqnews/2009/jul/HQ_09-152_LROC_images.html

[elton]

LRO Latest Image

http://www.nasa.gov/images/content/367314main_cracked_hahn_450.jpg
http://www.nasa.gov/images/content/367307main_cracked_hahn_lg.jpg
Mapping the Moon with the Wide Angle Camera

http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/LRO/multimedia/index.html

javascript:watchNASAOnDemandVideos('http://anon.nasa-global.edgesuite.net/anon.nasa-global/ccvideos/GSFC_20090707_LROfirstflyover.asx','','','','LRO Lunar Flyover','358623main_LRO_crater_100.jpg','199893', '')

WAC images that went into this mosaic were acquired on July 8, 2009. On the bottom left is Hahn crater (approximately 80 km in diameter), with its terraced walls that form as material slumps down the sides and central peak that rebounds from depth during the impact process. A portion of the large impact crater Gauss (170 km in diameter; 35.7 degrees N, 79.0 degrees E) is in the upper right corner. Its floor appears to have been flooded with lava, which solidified and later fractured. The presence of these irregular cracks may be due to the intrusion of magma, which disrupted the crater floor as it rose and eventually stalled beneath the surface. If the material on the floor is due to extrusive volcanism, the color filters of the WAC will help to determine its composition relative to the surrounding terrain. The Narrow Angle Cameras (NACs) will allow us to see small vents and pyroclastic deposits that often occur in similar floor-fractured craters, helping to confirm that these cracks are due to volcanic activity beneath the crater.

Uncalibrated image; north is up; scene is approximately 160 km across and in simple cylindrical projection at 155 m/pixel.

Credit: NASA/GSFC/Arizona State University

http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/LRO/multimedia/index.html


Additional Resources
› LRO Fact Sheet
› LRO Lithograph
› LRO/LCROSS Press Kit


http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/Mini-RF/news/radar_tandem_searches.html

http://www.nasa.gov/home/hqnews/2009/jul/HQ_09-152_LROC_images.html


LRO is a total fake. Wait for them to show the Apollo landing sites. I expect they are being photoshopped as we speak.

NASA are liars.

[jamesc]

LRO is a total fake. Wait for them to show the Apollo landing sites. I expect they are being photoshopped as we speak.

NASA are liars.

Well is this LRO in the Moons orbit and it is from the NASA web site and did it not take off last month, NASA have footage showing it take off.:confused: What is fake about it , the latest moon images from LRO or the hole mission that LRO is engaging in??

[jamesc]

that doesn't explain why they need to bomb it though does it?

The original wording of "BOMBING THE MOON" phrase came from an article NOT related to the official NASA web site or from NASA.NASA have said on their web site ,"WATCH OUT FOR A SPECTACULAR FIREWORKS DISPLAY WHEN THE IMPACT CAPSULE HITS THE MOON CRATER".Bombing the moon has been misinterpated to imply a missile with explosives.While i agree that this non explosive capsule travelling at twice the speed of a bullet will create a crater 13ft deep and 67 feet wide as NASA have said it would.Now the question is do we believe NASA that this impact capsule is "NON EXPLOSIVE" AND CARRYING NO EXPLOSIVES? The media also worded their articules with "NASA to bomb the moon" , in what context did they expect people to take that form of wording??:confused:In my first post on this story i did originally think that it was a explosive device that NASA were going to use but again do we trust NASA on this???

[jamesc]

Mission News
Short List of LCROSS Candidate Impact Craters :confused:

http://www.nasa.gov/images/content/367571main_LCROSS%2Bcandidates.jpg
Click on the image for a larger image. Credit: NASA/Ames Research Center
http://www.nasa.gov/images/content/367574main1_LCROSS_candidates412.jpg
Impact: 4:30 a.m. PDT, October 9, 2009

LCROSS Candidate Impact Craters
Designation
Crater Name
Sun Mask
Eath Mask
Latitude
Longitude
SP A Faustini
2.3
0.9
-87.2°
89°E
SP B Shoemaker
3.5
-0.6
-88.5°
50°E
SP C Cabeus
3.0
8.5
-85°
35.5°W
SP CB Cabeus B
0.9
-0.5
-81.7°
54.5°W
SP CC none
2.5
0.1
-83.5°
16°W
SP D Hawworth
2.7
0.8
-87.4°
5°W
SP F none
1.8
0.5
-82.3°
12°E
SP G none
2.4
0.4
-84.3°
1°E


Sun Mask is the depth, in kilometers, of the crater below where the sun's light does not penetrate. Earth mask is the depth of the crater below that is not visible from Earth. At various time of the year, the libration or wobble of the moon on its axis gives Earth obsevers the ability to look deeper into the permanenty shadowed craters on the south pole.

This list of candidate craters is based on current information about the age, depth and structure of the selected craters. Approximately 30 days before impact, the LCROSS science team will announce the selection of the final impact crater. The selection will take into account any additional information, especially from the Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter, collected about the candidate craters.


http://www.nasa.gov/images/content/367574main1_LCROSS_candidates412.jpg

[elton]

Mission News
Short List of LCROSS Candidate Impact Craters :confused:

http://www.nasa.gov/images/content/367571main_LCROSS%2Bcandidates.jpg
Click on the image for a larger image. Credit: NASA/Ames Research Center
http://www.nasa.gov/images/content/367574main1_LCROSS_candidates412.jpg
Impact: 4:30 a.m. PDT, October 9, 2009

LCROSS Candidate Impact Craters
Designation
Crater Name
Sun Mask
Eath Mask
Latitude
Longitude
SP A Faustini
2.3
0.9
-87.2°
89°E
SP B Shoemaker
3.5
-0.6
-88.5°
50°E
SP C Cabeus
3.0
8.5
-85°
35.5°W
SP CB Cabeus B
0.9
-0.5
-81.7°
54.5°W
SP CC none
2.5
0.1
-83.5°
16°W
SP D Hawworth
2.7
0.8
-87.4°
5°W
SP F none
1.8
0.5
-82.3°
12°E
SP G none
2.4
0.4
-84.3°
1°E


Sun Mask is the depth, in kilometers, of the crater below where the sun's light does not penetrate. Earth mask is the depth of the crater below that is not visible from Earth. At various time of the year, the libration or wobble of the moon on its axis gives Earth obsevers the ability to look deeper into the permanenty shadowed craters on the south pole.

This list of candidate craters is based on current information about the age, depth and structure of the selected craters. Approximately 30 days before impact, the LCROSS science team will announce the selection of the final impact crater. The selection will take into account any additional information, especially from the Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter, collected about the candidate craters.


http://www.nasa.gov/images/content/367574main1_LCROSS_candidates412.jpg

So which one is the bomb aimed at?

[thefallguy]

Close moon film

Moon Earth Project July 2009 Part 1 - YouTube

Moon Earth Project July 2009 part 4 - YouTube

Moon Earth Project 2009 part 8 - YouTube

[thefallguy]

Look here at the moon's surface:


Moon - Area of Interest. 2009 HD - YouTube

[branjo]

Very cool stuff there, at 2:04, the mushroom looking structure, that has't to be pretty big. Could that be something like a colossus to the square looking "city" above it. A large square looking mountain range with a smaller square range inside of it, the fact that its "square" deserves a closer look anyway considering meteors dont make square holes...lol.

[telecaster]

A contact informed me that the ETs on the moon are the Nordic type.
Before I heard that, I thought it was the Greys !!!

[deany]

Look here at the moon's surface:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RO14FdIoiko

hi the fallguy,

i do love your vids and thanks for posting.

Just wondering why you chose black and white for these close shots of the moon?
do you have colour versions?

I would love to see the moon this close up in colour and try to have a goo dclose look at some of these anomalies.

cheers

cheers

[kasalt]

hi the fallguy,

i do love your vids and thanks for posting.

Just wondering why you chose black and white for these close shots of the moon?
do you have colour versions?

I would love to see the moon this close up in colour and try to have a goo dclose look at some of these anomalies.

It is difficult to obtain true colour images of the moon because atmospheric distortions caused by variations in air temperature, pressure, pollution, etc., prevent earth-based photography from portraying the moon in its true colour. There is a correction for this atmospheric distortion called "adaptive optics (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adaptive_optics#Adaptive_optics_in_astronomy)" photography, but it is very expensive and therefore its use is limited to governments who can afford it. A few true colour images of the moon have been released to the public, but NASA has adaptive optics imagery of the moon that they have not released, for some mysterious reason. According to NASA, "The Moon's natural color is a faint red-brown" (source (http://www.lpi.usra.edu/expmoon/clementine/ap16.html)).

Here are a few links where you can find "true colour" images of the moon:

Mike's Astroimagery Full Color Images (http://www.thelivingmoon.com/43ancients/02files/Moon_Images_Mike.html)
Galileo Spacecraft Full Color Images (http://www.thelivingmoon.com/43ancients/02files/Moon_Images_Galileo.html)
(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/43ancients/41Group_Lunar_FYEO/02files/FYEO_Lunar_03.html#Color)Clementine Color Data Set (http://www.thelivingmoon.com/43ancients/41Group_Lunar_FYEO/02files/FYEO_Lunar_03.html#Color)
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1044751&postcount=17
(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/43ancients/41Group_Lunar_FYEO/02files/FYEO_Lunar_03.html#Color)

[branjo]

Good Pics, straight into the collection.

[chattanova]

India's Orbiting Lunar Satellite Suddenly Lost

“We are studying the telemetry data and trying to figure out what is the problem.” - Indian Space Research Organization

http://img37.imagefra.me/img/img37/2/8/30/kennet/f_12p1x9e5utem_924cdb9.jpg

Radio contacts with Chandrayaan-1 orbiting lunar spacecraft was abruptly lost at 1:30 AM local time in Byalalu, India,
(southwest of Bangalore) on Saturday, August 29. The spacecraft had completed 312 days in orbit, 3,400 orbits around the moon and 95%
of its mission. Graphic courtesy Satish Dhawan Space Centre.

http://www.earthfiles.com/

[deany]

It is difficult to obtain true colour images of the moon because atmospheric distortions caused by variations in air temperature, pressure, pollution, etc., prevent earth-based photography from portraying the moon in its true colour. There is a correction for this atmospheric distortion called "adaptive optics (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adaptive_optics#Adaptive_optics_in_astronomy)" photography, but it is very expensive and therefore its use is limited to governments who can afford it. A few true colour images of the moon have been released to the public, but NASA has adaptive optics imagery of the moon that they have not released, for some mysterious reason. According to NASA, "The Moon's natural color is a faint red-brown" (source (http://www.lpi.usra.edu/expmoon/clementine/ap16.html)).

Here are a few links where you can find "true colour" images of the moon:

Mike's Astroimagery Full Color Images (http://www.thelivingmoon.com/43ancients/02files/Moon_Images_Mike.html)
Galileo Spacecraft Full Color Images (http://www.thelivingmoon.com/43ancients/02files/Moon_Images_Galileo.html)
(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/43ancients/41Group_Lunar_FYEO/02files/FYEO_Lunar_03.html#Color)Clementine Color Data Set (http://www.thelivingmoon.com/43ancients/41Group_Lunar_FYEO/02files/FYEO_Lunar_03.html#Color)
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1044751&postcount=17
(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/43ancients/41Group_Lunar_FYEO/02files/FYEO_Lunar_03.html#Color)

cheers Kasalt,

very interesting indeed

[steve1964]

I dunno if this has been spotted yet by anyone else.

Are UFOs interfering with NASA's moon-colliding probe LCROSS?


http://www.redicecreations.com/article.php?id=7785

[alithinos]

Well isn't it strange that we always see one of it's sides ?
Shouldn't it make a round move from it's pole ?
But it's not.
But other moons of other planets do that.
Hmmm....

[branjo]

I dunno if this has been spotted yet by anyone else.

Are UFOs interfering with NASA's moon-colliding probe LCROSS?


http://www.redicecreations.com/article.php?id=7785

They should, because this is the most pointless and utterly dangerous plan by these morons at NASA yet.

I mean the excuse they gave is so ridiculous that it beggars belief that they think we are taking that as a legitimate reason for it. Tax payers money put to the worst possible use.

I hope the ET's turn the bomb around and take out NASA with it instead, now that I wouldn't mind my tax dollars going to, it would seem worth it to me ..lol

NASA is a disgusting Government Agency that has every single piece of technology that would save the entire planet from hunger, thirst and progress and yet they do nothing with it but make these useless toys and plans that mean absolutely nothing.

You know I have this feeling that the reason for this is some sort of cover up by destroying something they don't want the world to see, with more and more people having access to more powerful telescopes, sooner or later someone is going to get an undeniable picture of something that we should have been told about many years ago.

[branjo]

Well isn't it strange that we always see one of it's sides ?
Shouldn't it make a round move from it's pole ?
But it's not.
But other moons of other planets do that.
Hmmm....

I recently started to look into Alex Collier and I have to say the guy makes sense, it takes a leap of faith but the things he is saying do not contradict many other sources.

He says his contacts (ET's) told him the moon was brought to our world by being towed from the Ursa Minor constellation, and was hollowed out to be used as an outpost for colonizing or just observing an evolving young Earth. I mean the size of the moon in comparison to the Earth, just seems instantly odd, and that is a valid point that I am sure is explainable in an excusable way other than the truth, "why we really only see one side of it". Collier also said, and he is not alone in this, that the reason it was hollowed out was to use it as a craft, with no need to worry about an outer shell because billions of years have made it perfectly airtight and strengthened it against bombardment from rogue meteors.

There is no denying it, it would make the perfect craft or "observation" craft with the best camouflage bar none. I mean here on earth the military hollow out mountains for secret bases and we are under no illusions of the DUMBS everywhere, so its not a huge leap of the imagination to consider an ET race hollowing out a dead planet to use in this way.

I mean someone else said this not me, but why do we have an international space station in "orbit" and not on the moon? surely some gravity would be a damn sight better than no gravity, unless we were told that we were not allowed to build on the moon because for 1. its not ours and 2. there is no point in building on something that might not be there in the not too distant future.

Its the perfect cover, and we all know that lies are best kept when they are right in your face. Well the best lie of all stares right at us every night in the sky and the world just accepts it as if it was something unimportant.

Those bases will probably turn out to be just entrances and exits from the real structure inside. The imagination does run away when you consider the possibilities and the sheer size it might be on the inside, I mean for all we know it could have a population of a billion people in a completely sustainable environment running on free energy, and here we all are on the Earth, slaves to money and fossil fuels.

Anyway we will have a little more proof if that bomb doesn't hit its projected target or never makes it at all, there is the post I can't remember if its in this thread where someone found some good info relating to the impact of the moon lander as it fell back to the surface made the moon ring like a bell for 30 minutes. A solid thing just wouldn't seem like it would do that.

Fantastic thread guys, I love to read theories about the moon, sooner or later something has got to give regarding it.

[jamesc]

SORRY TO GO OFF TOPIC BUT THIS IS INTERESTING.




Some Moon Rocks are Fake
01-Sep-2009

http://www.unknowncountry.com/img/news/062009/mrocks-1.jpg
REAL ones Click to enlarge It's like a bad dream: A piece of moon rock given to the Dutch Rijksmuseum in 1969 by the three Apollo astronauts has been revealed to be fossilized wood. This is certainly fuel for conspiracy theories!
At the time, fragments from the moon were highly prized and considered extraordinary treasures, and the Dutch originally insured their piece for half a million dollars, and NASA had confirmed that the rock definitely was brought back from the moon. However, since there is no evidence that trees have ever grown on the moon, the only logical explanation is that the astronauts handed Dutch Prime Minister Willem Drees a fake. How or why this happened is unknown. During the 1970s, lunar fragments were given to more than a hundred countries. Then again, if the fragment really DID come from the moon, what might that mean?

NASA has no explanation.:rolleyes: The simplest one would be that the astronauts wanted to keep the real rock themselves, since it was considered (at the time) to be quite valuable.:confused::rolleyes: BBC News quotes Xandra van Gelder, the investigator who discovered this, as saying, "It's a good story, with some questions that are still unanswered.:rolleyes: We can laugh about it.":eek::confused:

[branjo]

Interesting Jamesc, did they come from a moon that was once habitable? or the nearest thing to something that looked like moon rocks, on Earth? The plot doth thicken.

I just had a not so nice thought regarding that LCROSS thing though, what if by expending all its full this thing finds itself on a return course to Earth and not the moon? Can you imagine the political shit storm a 2 ton kinetic weapon would kick off if it hit a country on Earth, oh I dunno say, China or the middle east? Well at least we know we have the missiles that can take out a satellite with pinpoint accuracy, but would they try and stop such a thing from happening. That would probably start the ball rolling with a few agendas right there, no?

Its a good thing I always look on the bright side of life, bloody conspiracy theorists :D

[elton]

Interesting Jamesc, did they come from a moon that was once habitable? or the nearest thing to something that looked like moon rocks, on Earth? The plot doth thicken.

I just had a not so nice thought regarding that LCROSS thing though, what if by expending all its full this thing finds itself on a return course to Earth and not the moon? Can you imagine the political shit storm a 2 ton kinetic weapon would kick off if it hit a country on Earth, oh I dunno say, China or the middle east? Well at least we know we have the missiles that can take out a satellite with pinpoint accuracy, but would they try and stop such a thing from happening. That would probably start the ball rolling with a few agendas right there, no?

Its a good thing I always look on the bright side of life, bloody conspiracy theorists :D

We should be very concerned about LCROSS. If it does actually have a nuclear warhead on it then we better hope ET doesn't redirect it back to earth. And if it actually detonates on the moon, what will happen if the moons orbit is destabilised? The moon itself could either drift away or it could also impact the earth and we are all screwed.

[elton]

SORRY TO GO OFF TOPIC BUT THIS IS INTERESTING.




Some Moon Rocks are Fake
01-Sep-2009

http://www.unknowncountry.com/img/news/062009/mrocks-1.jpg
REAL ones Click to enlarge It's like a bad dream: A piece of moon rock given to the Dutch Rijksmuseum in 1969 by the three Apollo astronauts has been revealed to be fossilized wood. This is certainly fuel for conspiracy theories!
At the time, fragments from the moon were highly prized and considered extraordinary treasures, and the Dutch originally insured their piece for half a million dollars, and NASA had confirmed that the rock definitely was brought back from the moon. However, since there is no evidence that trees have ever grown on the moon, the only logical explanation is that the astronauts handed Dutch Prime Minister Willem Drees a fake. How or why this happened is unknown. During the 1970s, lunar fragments were given to more than a hundred countries. Then again, if the fragment really DID come from the moon, what might that mean?

NASA has no explanation.:rolleyes: The simplest one would be that the astronauts wanted to keep the real rock themselves, since it was considered (at the time) to be quite valuable.:confused::rolleyes: BBC News quotes Xandra van Gelder, the investigator who discovered this, as saying, "It's a good story, with some questions that are still unanswered.:rolleyes: We can laugh about it.":eek::confused:

Does this mean there was once wood on the moon?

[alithinos]

We should be very concerned about LCROSS. If it does actually have a nuclear warhead on it then we better hope ET doesn't redirect it back to earth. And if it actually detonates on the moon, what will happen if the moons orbit is destabilised? The moon itself could either drift away or it could also impact the earth and we are all screwed.

Or it could just break it to a number of pieces and then we will have a rain of rocks on our heads.

[jamesc]

Does this mean there was once wood on the moon?

Yes that did cross my mind, fossilised wood eh:confused:, mix up with some moon rocks,earth rocks some were along the lines.Interesting none the less.:cool:

[g123]

Hi All,

So if we are planning a crater to watch to see 'something', is there any particular crater or area we should be looking at?

Or is everything gone? :(

G

[bulltwister]

The LCROSS is going to hit the Cabeus A crater
Here's a little info on it

http://www.universetoday.com/2009/09/11/lcross-impact-site-on-moon-announced-cabeus-a/

[spock]

India Moon mission discovers water on lunar surface

http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2009-09/24/content_12105875.htm (http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2009-09/24/content_12105875.htm)
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601091&sid=a8Ny81jcs0hY (http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601091&sid=a8Ny81jcs0hY)
http://www.nationalpost.com/news/story.html?id=2025894 (http://www.nationalpost.com/news/story.html?id=2025894)
http://www.expressbuzz.com/edition/story.aspx?Title=Large+quantities+of+water+found+o n+the+Moon&artid=W06SmBLP4Kg (http://www.expressbuzz.com/edition/story.aspx?Title=Large+quantities+of+water+found+o n+the+Moon&artid=W06SmBLP4Kg)=


sounds like bill cooper when he talked about the C.I.A not being able to find osama.
the most expensive budget in the history of the world and all that.


Sept. 24 (Bloomberg) -- India’s first lunar mission found evidence of water on the moon, a spokesman for the Indian Space Research Organization said in a phone interview from the southern city of Bangalore today.
“Our instruments such as the Moon Impact Probe and NASA’s Moon Mineralogy Mapper have found evidence of water on the moon,” S. Satish said. “The data obtained from these instruments show there is evidence of water.”


so india go to the moon once and find water?
and the U.S have had N.A.S.A. since............the nazi's .......and have found fook all??? :rolleyes:

[astrochicken]

Here's what they're aiming at.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4KEueJnsu80

[branjo]

Here's what they're aiming at.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4KEueJnsu80

lol yeah I don't doubt it.